CAT ODB Ti HUB on 8” 300blk Supers and Subs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- This one is pretty dang interesting. CAT’s technology is called Surge Bypass™️, and while I have no idea what that is or how they’re doing it, I found it interesting that the gas required to cycle supers and subs was not all that far off. Specifically, my Riflespeed AGB using a #917 plunger, pistol length gas system, mil-spec BCG, and LWRCI UCIW buffer recoil system and requires settings for these suppressors:
Enticer S
Supers: 2
Subs: 10
CAT ODB
Supers: 7
Subs: 12
So both numbers are higher for the ODB than the Enticer S which makes sense as the ODB is billed as a low backpressure can. What I find very interesting, though, is that the delta is relatively low. It takes more gas to cycle supersonic but not that much more to cycle subs. It would seem as though the system is “pressure agnostic” or otherwise evens out differences in pressure between rounds.
Ok, so what? Who cares? Well, it would seem to follow that you might NOT need an AGB with your 300blk pistol if you can tune your system to cycle subs. Supers might not be that gassy if you’re running both on the same system. I still think an AGB is an awesome investment, but it’s pretty cool to see what CAT is doing.
I would love to try a Flow762 Ti for comparison, but it’s actually too chonky to fit underneath the handguard for my pistol here. The ODB is 1.6” OD which is about the same as the Enticer S. Both are great cans, and the ODB is twice as expensive as the Enticer but certainly a more advanced design. #silencer #suppressor #rifle #gun @specterscat @riflespeed
I have a CAT Inconel WB QD in jail for my 12.5 midgas, with RifleSpeed gas block, Sprinco Blue spring and H3 buffer that currently runs a CGS SCI SIX. And I have a Titanium ODB QD in jail for my Aero 8in BLK that runs my old form1 can. Since CATs stuff is higher flow rate and I only run subs,I’m gonna keep my 300 with a regular gas block and just throw in my Bootleg adjustable BCG and maybe mess around with a heavier buffer and spring
I feel like the Riflespeed is an awesome addition to a 300blk rifle where you might run unsuppressed supers and of course suppressed subs and supers. For 5.56, I really just need to tune the gas for my can(s).
That said, I do like the Bootleg as an easier drop-in option, and I have seen folks use it with 300blk successfully too. Especially for a shorter barrel, I think it makes a lot of sense to go with a fixed gas block using the ODB. It seems to be much less sensitive to gas differences between supers and subs.
@@illestdomer2005 Are you concerned that in their written documentation that the Ti model shouldn’t be used on barrel lengths shorter than 10”?
@@markrothhaar9454 I haven’t seen that documented, but I don’t have any concerns either. I have a titanium Sig can that lives on a 6.75” 300blk barrel where I use supers and subs. I haven’t had any problems, and CAT has shown mag dumps on their Titanium that far exceed anything I will be doing even if it’s an 8” barrel.
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What do you think about CAT's 10" min barrel restriction? I have a spooky on a 10.3" 5.56 and was hoping to use the ODB on that and an 8" 300 BO I'm building.
@@JTG40cal I would just get an IR temp gun to make sure you don’t exceed the max temp for the Ti or 718 (don’t recall each off the top of my head, but I believe 718 is double Ti).
Pew Science tested the ODB on the MK18; so, I don’t think the 10.3” barrel length would be a problem as long as you manage your firing schedule.
8” 300blk, especially with subs, should be perfectly fine. I haven’t mag dumped mine, but I run an 8” barrel and haven’t even come close to the upper limit.
If you are looking enough to have a select fire lower or do a lot of rapid fire, you might want to get the Inconel version; otherwise, the Ti seems plenty durable for my use.
@@illestdomer2005 Thanks for the reply! I certainly won't be mag dumping, but with the titanium's barrel length, rate (
What was the gas block setting without a can?
riflespeed gasblock. they make all different sizes
10
Would recommend this suppressor for subs ? Thinking of getting it,
Have you tried rapid firing it for a couple mags? Was looking at this for my next can but was concerned about durability. Not gonna be doing crazy mag dumps but would like to be able to run some drills with it and not worry about it.
I haven’t, but I wouldn’t be worried about doing it either. I believe CAT posted a video of them dumping 6 or so consecutive mags with a titanium WB or ODB, and it definitely showed some…wear, but I can’t see any issues even with a single full mag dump, let alone a few bursts here and there.
Hearsay but I heard if your shooting .300 don't worry about it. Your pressures aren't going to be high enough to warrant a firing schedule
Looks like Agency Arms copied your style of rifle Dynamic gas block lol
Haha, I think Riflespeed just convinced Agency that their idea is great. This is the RS Poseidon upper. When I saw it back in March, I had to have it!
Who makes that upper ?
@@BossHugo84 that’s an @riflespeed Poseidon upper!
www.riflespeed.com/300-BLK-Assembled-Uppers_p_22.html
When fully open, was it locking back on the last round with the ODB?
I had to go all the way up to 12 on the Riflespeed with plunger 917 and a JP carbine weight SCS. It locked back on an empty mag, but I would feel more comfortable with a shorter plunger that would give me more gas to play with.
So how did it compare to the Enticer?
They’re both awesome 300blk cans. The Enticer is definitely higher backpressure; so, if you have an AGB, you can save yourself a lot of money going with the Enticer. That said, the ODB is outstanding. I don’t regret the purchase at all, and if I were doing it all again, I would have just bought the ODB.
@@illestdomer2005 Yeah, I need something for the Radian Model 1 300 BLK which doesn’t have an AGB.
@@compositetiger 100% endorse the ODB then. Running it on my overgassed 5.56, it performed as well or better than the Velos. They definitely have some magic in there with low backpressure and great subsonic performance.
@@illestdomer2005Which buffer are you using for your 300 BLK pistol?
@@compositetiger I think this was still the LWRCI UCIW (SBR), and I have since switched to the JP SCS carbine weight system which feels slightly lighter than the UCIW which is supposedly similar to an H2 buffer. I’ll probably have to go to a shorter plunger on the Riflespeed AGB when I run the ODB again.