Recently discovered from the engine oil geek apparently Lucas stabilizers can actually degrade the other critical additive package levels and thus can even reduce viscosity despite what we think it is supposed to be doing. Cray Cray stuff.
One thing to add here folks...dont forget to replace your pcv valve. On modern engines you should be doing it every 30-50k. The pcv valve plays a major roll in several funtions of your engine. Especially on modern engines. I recommend doing some research on pcv valve operation. Dont try and clean the valve either, just replace it.
Almost 300k on my 2014 tundra using nothing but 0w20. I buy whatever oil is on sale. Truck has mainly seen Walmarts super tech full synthetic . Zero issues. Change my oil every 4-5k miles costs me 50 bucks to do it myself
@@insaneseafarer yea definitely change it every year or 5k miles at most and you’ll always be good to go. I drive so much the time never comes into play for me. Some people even recommend changing it every 6 months but I think it can last the year no problem
@@tundras4ever552 yeah, it's not that expensive to do it more often. My oil changes were averaging $45 including a Wix filter and full synthetic oil. An oil change shop would charge me $120 for the same thing. An ounce of prevention is worth it.
@@WokeisaJoke0522 Did you use Mobil 1 for a good while right? So Mobil 1 is also very good as your car at 170k is as new. Yes, mainly make and model. Oil is very important too but I don't think your car runs like new because you switched from one to another.
You do not have to remove a fuse to pre-prime your engine with oil. I have a 06 F150 and my truck does this all Ford vehicles do this. When you go to start your truck before you turn the ignition key push the gas pedal all the way to the floor and then turn over the engine this will activate flood mode. When flood mode is activated the computer will disengage the fuel injectors and not allow the engine to fire over you can turn the engine over and pre-prime the oil and then when you let off the gas pedal the engine will start.
One question What about if you push just the Gas pedal and not together with the brake pedal? Would that be an issue or a problem while holding and trying to get oil pressure ?
When we would rebuild motors, we would get a drill and hook up to the connecting rod to the oil pump. We were prime the engine, and get oil to the top of the motor. I’m telling my age now you’re not going to prime an engine other than doing it that way you’re still rotating the engine, it may not be at 800 RPM but you’re still rotating it with oil at the top
I'd go for Archoil 9100 over the Lucas. I've used the clear Synthetic Lucas, but have done a lot of reading about how it has zero anti-wear and detergents. It does help oil 'climb,' though. But Archoil (which Jay Leno likes) has a huge amount of boron. Boron cleans, and behaves as an anti-wear additive. Archoil is too expensive for me, but for someone who leaves a vehicle to be on a ship might benefit from it.
If its a high quality oil and high quality additive package from the manufacture there is no need to add anything else like Lucas your just wasting your money and messing up the additive package already in the oil .
No engine is truely dry after changing the oil most of the engine parts are designed to retain oil. Modern engine is oil thin so it flows quick pre-priming is not necessary
@@sweetbone39 My problem is that I go overseas for so long that my truck just sits. Right now I'm on a ship going on 6 months so I'm sure most of the oil has dripped to the pan. That is something I mentioned in this video, the long duration of non use and then starting it dry.
@@insaneseafarer I just started up my 83 Eldorado that sat in storage for 10 years. Started right up, ran a little ruff about 10 seconds, then settled into a very smooth idle, engine very quiet, no lifter noise, no nothing, Just quiet. Just popped a new battery in, was parked when tank was almost empty, put 5 gal fresh gas, that was all. Ran it for 10 min, then changed the oil, Castrol 10 40.
@@johnfranklin5277 GM knew how to make a Cadillac, strong, quiet and comfortable. 10w 40 is a nice thick oil. The newer midels use 5w 20 or even 0w 20 and is very thin. I think the thinness of the oil is what causes dry starts, it settles to the sump when it is hot and then when it cools, there is no real protection in the top end of the engine.
Wouldn’t holding the gas pedal to the floor “clear flood mode” for the same amount of time do the same thing without removing the fuse. Just a thought thanks for the video
I never knew about that. Another comment stated the same thing so I will try it. I'm on a ship now, been here for half a year so my truck has been sitting in storage all that time. I'm anxious to try the gas pedal method to prime it when I get back next week. Thanks for leaving a comment.
@@insaneseafarer It will work in most gas vehicles these days. Not sure about diesels. Works in my '03 Sierra and a 2016 Jeep the other day. Did not work in a 2009 Kia
I agree to that. Lucas Pure Synthetic has a grade rating of 50 weight. I put a little over a quart of that along with Castrol and it increased it from 5w 20 to 5w25-ish. I have 200,000 miles on that truck now and it purrs. Not too much of an increase in weight so I still get decent fuel miles and wear protection. Lucas is super slick oil and it clings to parts, I noticed when I took the valve covers off and the cam was nice and slippery even sitting in the cold overnight.
Was it just from putting it to ON positive for 10. Secons (^*^) lol 😄 I keep it to ON for 2 seconds in my 2010 camry. My friend was surprised when he just crank it straight away because he was mad at me for something and it wasn't a dry start. What a toyota. . Except when me and dad tried 0w-30 Mobil 1 and my dad in the morning said "what you DO!" 🙃 that 0w Mobil 1 sunk all the oil back to the pan 😒
I have read articles that said fuel can seep past the rings and get into the oil even on newer vehicles in small amounts. All of my vehicle's oil smell like gas or burnt oil when I change it. My cars are well kept.... An ounce of prevention. Some guys think I'm lame for changing my oil so often. But I have 200,000 on my 2011 F250 and it purrs. I also get it to 5k rpm when passing slow vehicles uphill no problem. I took a snake camera and ran it inside the engine through the oil fill. It was clean everywhere, no sludge, no purple stains. All shiny components.
That Lucas product is ok for old worn out engines. There is little to no anti wear ingredients in it, all it is, is a viscosity thickner and thats it. Look it up and study it, you will find it is a waste of money.
I use it because it is so tacky. I recently got home from overseas and my truck sat for 10 months. The oily film prevents the inside from rusting. I have an inspection camera and went inside the engine through the oil fill cap. There was a minute bit of rust on the crank but not bad. Lucas is really good for storing vehicles, which is the main reason I use it.
yo 5w30 0w30 Use the best flowing viscosity oils you can get bro. Ill use 0w40 in my diesels year round. So like now castrol Magnatec is supposed to be rebranded as Castrol Synthetic. So if they make a more viscous 0w30 castrol synthetic etc, go for that. It probably has the same polar molecules like Magnetec does. I hear you, I hate the cold weather valve tapping in -35 myself.
I've done a little homework on that. I'm on a car carrier ship at this very moment and I've been here going on almost 6 months. My truck has been sitting in storage all this time with no one to prime it for me while I am gone. So I will charge the battery and then prime it before I start it up. Wish I had a way to pre lube it. What do you know about add on oil pumps?
@@insaneseafarer they do make a pre lube pump, I've installed a couple of them years back on Cummins engines. They come on for a programed amount of time when the key is turned on and can be programmed to turn on after the engine is shut down for a bit ( this is mainly for turbo charged engines) pretty simple install and might be just the ticket for your situation. I think the brand name was (Preluber) also you might want to look into a battery disconnect for those long layups. Lastly I didn't hear you say what brand of oil filter your using. Make sure you get one with an anti drain back valve. It helps. Good luck
I think you are over doing it with the Lucas but that's just me you should check out best line engine oil additives if you are looking for the best for your vehicle I have a 83 dodge RAM pick up God bless from Canada eh!
I have another truck I will try BestLine on, eh. As I mentioned in the video, my truck sits for months while I am overseas and Lucas 15% with the magnatec have been great for staying in the upper parts of the motor while the vehicle sits.
@@insaneseafarer I emailed castrol and ask them the difference between Magnatec and the new GTX full synthetic. They replied with this Castrol GTX FULL SYNTHETIC replaced Castrol GTX MAGNATEC to align with GM's latest generation of GM-certified engine oil, GM dexos™1 Gen 3. Castrol GTX FULL SYNTHETIC and Castrol GTX MAGNATEC are very similar formulations with very similar properties. The GTX FULL SYNTHETIC product also contains the intelligent molecule like GTX MAGNATEC that protects the engine from start-up. Castrol GTX FULL SYNTHETIC has been designed to meet the needs of today's advanced engine technologies and to help extend engine life by fighting the impact of severe driving conditions. It provides the same outstanding wear protection as GTX MAGNATEC, plus superior sludge protection that exceeds the industry standard.
The gold bottle is a higher mileage Edge oil. It's guaranteed for 20,000 miles but I would never go that far without an oil change. I did a short video of my thoughts and ponders about it. Here is the link to my video short...th-cam.com/users/shortsG7cDtsyBiTk
Not true about Platinum Ultra. Pennzoil is a using GTL process which has a lower NOACK than PAO’s (Amsoil/Redline). The only way to say who makes the best oil is to test them. There’s plenty of videos out there such as Project Farm. Adding Lucas is making the oil thicker…which is good to a point. Thin oil is killing engines. Good discussion.
I use both Mobil 1 and Castrol oils. Depending on the price. I change my oil every 50 hours so I don't let it get too dirty so I haven't experienced anything unusual past that time. I follow a channel called Project Farm and he does many tests with different oils. He concluded that Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge are the two best oils.
@Chano Leyva yes I have tried the Penzoil Platinum and the Valvoline full synthetics, also Mag1 oils. Castrol Magnatec is my favorite so far. It stopped dry starts and has a cleaning detergent that removes old oil stains from parts.
Why don't you just get into your vehicle and push the gas pedal to the floor, and run it in flood mode for about 10 to 15 seconds. No need to pull a fuse.
I do that too. Flood mode. Flood mode doesn't show the oil pressure go up, when I pull the fuse and start it, I can see what the oil pressure gauge is reading.
Interesting, but... So, you are using the same viscosity but different type of oil for hot summer months as for winter months. That's appearing total pointless. You should use a higher hot viscosity rate oil for summer, e. g. a 5W-30 or even a 10W-30 would be perfect. And come on... adding a subsequent "oil stabiliser" additive for these modern oils is just a harmful act. You shouldn"t do it. No, no, no. Even 15% is way too much. You are _ruining_ that good quality oil, man.
The Lucas is what thickens your oil and causes the dry starts. Castrol has all your engine needs already in it.
Recently discovered from the engine oil geek apparently Lucas stabilizers can actually degrade the other critical additive package levels and thus can even reduce viscosity despite what we think it is supposed to be doing. Cray Cray stuff.
One thing to add here folks...dont forget to replace your pcv valve. On modern engines you should be doing it every 30-50k. The pcv valve plays a major roll in several funtions of your engine. Especially on modern engines. I recommend doing some research on pcv valve operation. Dont try and clean the valve either, just replace it.
Almost 300k on my 2014 tundra using nothing but 0w20. I buy whatever oil is on sale. Truck has mainly seen Walmarts super tech full synthetic . Zero issues. Change my oil every 4-5k miles costs me 50 bucks to do it myself
I like the full synthetic since it is good for a year. My long tours on a ship, my truck is stored for so long and the oil just sits.
@@insaneseafarer yea definitely change it every year or 5k miles at most and you’ll always be good to go. I drive so much the time never comes into play for me. Some people even recommend changing it every 6 months but I think it can last the year no problem
@@tundras4ever552 yeah, it's not that expensive to do it more often. My oil changes were averaging $45 including a Wix filter and full synthetic oil. An oil change shop would charge me $120 for the same thing. An ounce of prevention is worth it.
My 2023 Bronco will “flat crank” if you just hold down the gas and brake at the same time while starting….no need to pull any fuses….
You can flood mode a Ford without removing the fuse.
Castrol really makes very very good lubricants. Even better than Mobil 1.
Probably because it’s British
Switched from mobil 1 to castrol edge and will never go back. 09 yaris with 170000 miles on it and runs like a new car!
I use Mobil 1 as well. But Castrol is my favorite.
It isn't because of the oil.
@@peles73it’s just because the make and model, yes?Did I get it right?
@@WokeisaJoke0522 Did you use Mobil 1 for a good while right? So Mobil 1 is also very good as your car at 170k is as new. Yes, mainly make and model. Oil is very important too but I don't think your car runs like new because you switched from one to another.
@@peles73 I agree!
You do not have to remove a fuse to pre-prime your engine with oil. I have a 06 F150 and my truck does this all Ford vehicles do this. When you go to start your truck before you turn the ignition key push the gas pedal all the way to the floor and then turn over the engine this will activate flood mode. When flood mode is activated the computer will disengage the fuel injectors and not allow the engine to fire over you can turn the engine over and pre-prime the oil and then when you let off the gas pedal the engine will start.
I will try this! Thank you
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Does this work with other brand cars?
@@christianhudspeth3338 Yes. Even push to start. Just hold down the brake and gas. Release the gas when you want it to start.
One question
What about if you push just the Gas pedal and not together with the brake pedal?
Would that be an issue or a problem while holding and trying to get oil pressure ?
Running Castro my hole life all my car’s bikes you don’t need an active.
When we would rebuild motors, we would get a drill and hook up to the connecting rod to the oil pump. We were prime the engine, and get oil to the top of the motor. I’m telling my age now you’re not going to prime an engine other than doing it that way you’re still rotating the engine, it may not be at 800 RPM but you’re still rotating it with oil at the top
Isn't that why oil filters have an anti drain back valve, to prevent that from happening ?.
I'd go for Archoil 9100 over the Lucas. I've used the clear Synthetic Lucas, but have done a lot of reading about how it has zero anti-wear and detergents. It does help oil 'climb,' though. But Archoil (which Jay Leno likes) has a huge amount of boron. Boron cleans, and behaves as an anti-wear additive. Archoil is too expensive for me, but for someone who leaves a vehicle to be on a ship might benefit from it.
U can also push ur accelerator pedal to the floor hold it there and it wonk start long as u hold it
i use regular castrol. i may go to synthetic soon.
If its a high quality oil and high quality additive package from the manufacture there is no need to add anything else like Lucas your just wasting your money and messing up the additive package already in the oil .
Lookup flood mode. It does the same thing without having to remove the fuse.
I made a video of that as well.
Flood mode doesn't bring the oil pressure up. Removing the fuse I can see the rpm and oil pressure. My truck sits for months at a time.
No engine is truely dry after changing the oil most of the engine parts are designed to retain oil. Modern engine is oil thin so it flows quick pre-priming is not necessary
I agree also with that..i dont think oil flows back to the pan in less than a few days maybe
@@sweetbone39 My problem is that I go overseas for so long that my truck just sits. Right now I'm on a ship going on 6 months so I'm sure most of the oil has dripped to the pan. That is something I mentioned in this video, the long duration of non use and then starting it dry.
@@insaneseafarer I just started up my 83 Eldorado that sat in storage for 10 years. Started right up, ran a little ruff about 10 seconds, then settled into a very smooth idle, engine very quiet, no lifter noise, no nothing, Just quiet. Just popped a new battery in, was parked when tank was almost empty, put 5 gal fresh gas, that was all. Ran it for 10 min, then changed the oil, Castrol 10 40.
@@johnfranklin5277 GM knew how to make a Cadillac, strong, quiet and comfortable. 10w 40 is a nice thick oil. The newer midels use 5w 20 or even 0w 20 and is very thin. I think the thinness of the oil is what causes dry starts, it settles to the sump when it is hot and then when it cools, there is no real protection in the top end of the engine.
Wouldn’t holding the gas pedal to the floor “clear flood mode” for the same amount of time do the same thing without removing the fuse. Just a thought thanks for the video
I never knew about that. Another comment stated the same thing so I will try it. I'm on a ship now, been here for half a year so my truck has been sitting in storage all that time. I'm anxious to try the gas pedal method to prime it when I get back next week. Thanks for leaving a comment.
@@insaneseafarer It will work in most gas vehicles these days. Not sure about diesels. Works in my '03 Sierra and a 2016 Jeep the other day. Did not work in a 2009 Kia
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Not all vehicles have that feature. Be careful or you will start up at 4K rpm.
You’re using the wrong Lucas additive for that weight. They have a low viscosity one.
Awsome video!
Thank you sir.
My dad went from mobil 1 and lucas full synthetic to castrol edge high mileage and the truck burns less oil, leaks less oil. Superior oil by far
I agree to that. Lucas Pure Synthetic has a grade rating of 50 weight. I put a little over a quart of that along with Castrol and it increased it from 5w 20 to 5w25-ish. I have 200,000 miles on that truck now and it purrs. Not too much of an increase in weight so I still get decent fuel miles and wear protection. Lucas is super slick oil and it clings to parts, I noticed when I took the valve covers off and the cam was nice and slippery even sitting in the cold overnight.
Was it just from putting it to ON positive for 10. Secons (^*^) lol 😄
I keep it to ON for 2 seconds in my 2010 camry. My friend was surprised when he just crank it straight away because he was mad at me for something and it wasn't a dry start. What a toyota. . Except when me and dad tried 0w-30 Mobil 1 and my dad in the morning said "what you DO!" 🙃 that 0w Mobil 1 sunk all the oil back to the pan 😒
Care care nut said change oil often (5,000 miles) because fuel can get into the oil? With a new engine Is that right?
I have read articles that said fuel can seep past the rings and get into the oil even on newer vehicles in small amounts. All of my vehicle's oil smell like gas or burnt oil when I change it. My cars are well kept.... An ounce of prevention. Some guys think I'm lame for changing my oil so often. But I have 200,000 on my 2011 F250 and it purrs. I also get it to 5k rpm when passing slow vehicles uphill no problem. I took a snake camera and ran it inside the engine through the oil fill. It was clean everywhere, no sludge, no purple stains. All shiny components.
@@insaneseafarer thank you!
Wish castrol didn't stop making magnatec.
i can prime mine up without removing fuse. i have key without chip car wont fire up but turns over
Or you could hold the gas pedal to the floor while trying to start it when you do so you shut down the fuel system
I do that too. But the pedal technique doesn't show the oil pressure oil rpm. Pulling the fuse, the rpm and oil pressure show when I start it.
I have kia forte Ex 2 litre.Its burning 2 litres of engine oil in 6000 kms .Which one you recommend between edge and GTX?
A new car nigga
That Lucas product is ok for old worn out engines. There is little to no anti wear ingredients in it, all it is, is a viscosity thickner and thats it. Look it up and study it, you will find it is a waste of money.
I use it because it is so tacky. I recently got home from overseas and my truck sat for 10 months. The oily film prevents the inside from rusting. I have an inspection camera and went inside the engine through the oil fill cap. There was a minute bit of rust on the crank but not bad. Lucas is really good for storing vehicles, which is the main reason I use it.
yo
5w30
0w30
Use the best flowing viscosity oils you can get bro.
Ill use 0w40 in my diesels year round.
So like now castrol Magnatec is supposed to be rebranded as Castrol Synthetic.
So if they make a more viscous 0w30 castrol synthetic etc, go for that. It probably has the same polar molecules like Magnetec does.
I hear you, I hate the cold weather valve tapping in -35 myself.
How about an add on oil pump.
I've done a little homework on that. I'm on a car carrier ship at this very moment and I've been here going on almost 6 months. My truck has been sitting in storage all this time with no one to prime it for me while I am gone. So I will charge the battery and then prime it before I start it up. Wish I had a way to pre lube it. What do you know about add on oil pumps?
@@insaneseafarer they do make a pre lube pump, I've installed a couple of them years back on Cummins engines. They come on for a programed amount of time when the key is turned on and can be programmed to turn on after the engine is shut down for a bit ( this is mainly for turbo charged engines) pretty simple install and might be just the ticket for your situation. I think the brand name was (Preluber) also you might want to look into a battery disconnect for those long layups. Lastly I didn't hear you say what brand of oil filter your using. Make sure you get one with an anti drain back valve. It helps. Good luck
@@jimmotormedic I use wix xp. They have the anti drain back valve
I think you are over doing it with the Lucas but that's just me you should check out best line engine oil additives if you are looking for the best for your vehicle I have a 83 dodge RAM pick up God bless from Canada eh!
I have another truck I will try BestLine on, eh. As I mentioned in the video, my truck sits for months while I am overseas and Lucas 15% with the magnatec have been great for staying in the upper parts of the motor while the vehicle sits.
Magnatec is top notch
I love Magnatec. Castrol stopped making it and replaced it with GTX.
@@insaneseafarer I emailed castrol and ask them the difference between Magnatec and the new GTX full synthetic. They replied with this
Castrol GTX FULL SYNTHETIC replaced Castrol GTX MAGNATEC to align with GM's latest generation of GM-certified engine oil, GM dexos™1 Gen 3.
Castrol GTX FULL SYNTHETIC and Castrol GTX MAGNATEC are very similar formulations with very similar properties. The GTX FULL SYNTHETIC product also contains the intelligent molecule like GTX MAGNATEC that protects the engine from start-up.
Castrol GTX FULL SYNTHETIC has been designed to meet the needs of today's advanced engine technologies and to help extend engine life by fighting the impact of severe driving conditions. It provides the same outstanding wear protection as GTX MAGNATEC, plus superior sludge protection that exceeds the industry standard.
Castrol magnatec still is available here in india,
@@saurabhtanwer2166 I must have bought the last jug of Magnatec, we can't get it here anymore.
Why is Castrol so much darker than other brands?
It's the additive package they use. It's really good stuff.
Dark oil is the additives turning dark.
Question for you what about there Gold bottle GTX oil would that one be even better to use ?
The gold bottle is a higher mileage Edge oil. It's guaranteed for 20,000 miles but I would never go that far without an oil change. I did a short video of my thoughts and ponders about it. Here is the link to my video short...th-cam.com/users/shortsG7cDtsyBiTk
@@insaneseafarer 💪🏾😎
You never put an oil adative in your oil.
Pennzoil ultra platinum flows better than any of these oils and is cheaper.
It also burns off faster and has less high temp protection.
Not true about Platinum Ultra. Pennzoil is a using GTL process which has a lower NOACK than PAO’s (Amsoil/Redline). The only way to say who makes the best oil is to test them. There’s plenty of videos out there such as Project Farm. Adding Lucas is making the oil thicker…which is good to a point. Thin oil is killing engines. Good discussion.
Shaffers or Amsoil is all I will use
Castrol edge vs mobil 1 in wich batter for petrol car engine long life best performance ?
I use both Mobil 1 and Castrol oils. Depending on the price. I change my oil every 50 hours so I don't let it get too dirty so I haven't experienced anything unusual past that time. I follow a channel called Project Farm and he does many tests with different oils. He concluded that Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge are the two best oils.
Castrol Edge is much better oil them Mobile 1.
@Chano Leyva Mobil doesn't clean like Castrol does, I noticed.
@Chano Leyva yes I have tried the Penzoil Platinum and the Valvoline full synthetics, also Mag1 oils. Castrol Magnatec is my favorite so far. It stopped dry starts and has a cleaning detergent that removes old oil stains from parts.
Lucas is way over rated it comes in way down on tests
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I'm concerned that magnatec would cause gunk build up. Does it?
No it doesn't. It is the base of the GTX brand that has detergents eliminating gunk buildup. I haven't had any issues yet.
Why don't you just get into your vehicle and push the gas pedal to the floor, and run it in flood mode for about 10 to 15 seconds. No need to pull a fuse.
I do that too. Flood mode. Flood mode doesn't show the oil pressure go up, when I pull the fuse and start it, I can see what the oil pressure gauge is reading.
Interesting, but... So, you are using the same viscosity but different type of oil for hot summer months as for winter months. That's appearing total pointless. You should use a higher hot viscosity rate oil for summer, e. g. a 5W-30 or even a 10W-30 would be perfect. And come on... adding a subsequent "oil stabiliser" additive for these modern oils is just a harmful act. You shouldn"t do it. No, no, no. Even 15% is way too much. You are _ruining_ that good quality oil, man.