Questions, Coffee & Cars #85 // Japanese VS build N.A. Quality?
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- This is a Motormouth couple car video answering your questions from Instagram, Like: Japanese VS North American quality? Any models that standout as duds? Will Mazda continue to move it's cars higher into luxury? Cadillac XT4 Vs Honda CR-V? Is cash king when buying? Replacing a Nissan Murano with something German feeling? When to change oil as per dealer advice? Does resale value matter?
Andrea Instagram / motormouth_andrea
Zack Instagram / motormouth_auto
0:00 Intro
0:29 When to change oil as per dealer advice?
2:48 Replacing a Nissan Murano with something German feeling?
4:55 Is cash king when buying?
6:37 Does resale value matter?
8:02 Cadillac XT4 Vs Honda CR-V?
9:47 Will Mazda continue to move it's cars higher into luxury?
12:54 Any models that standout as duds?
14:59 Japanese VS North American quality? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I toured the Toyota Cambridge plant last year. The workers on the line SMILE. If they have an issue on the line, it is addressed immediately. If the workers need minor medical attention, they have a clinic on the line. After you take the tour you will be inclined to buy a Toyota. People are a precious resource and anything Toyota can do to make the workers job better or safer are top priority.
I did the Corvette plant tour a few weeks later and the contrast was staggering. At Corvette where workers are building a special, low volume car with a huge fanatical fan base, you really don't get the sense the workers love their job. The exact opposite. Full disclosure: I come from a GM family having owned Chevs, Olds, and Cadillacs and love my Ford pickups. I have a Prius Prime XSE on order.
We offered “cash” to a local Nissan dealer (Hunt Club Ottawa) for a 2023 kicks and THEY WOULDN’T TAKE IT and said we had to finance… They accused us of wanting to sell the car for a profit. Crazy!!! We were so shocked and insulted that we purchased the vehicle at another dealer!
Thanks for the warning about hunt club Nissan.
I didn't think it was legal for any company to refuse legal tender.
Follow-up thought, sounds like you should put a complaint into OMVIC
@@FrankyRedEyesit’s not legal
Let OMVIC know.
If you are going to exchange cars every few years the owners manual service schedule will get you through the warranty period, if you want to keep it longer term then 5k/6 months max and do transmission fluid 30k max.
When it comes to oil changes always remember; oil and filters are cheap, engines are expensive. With today's engines, especially turbocharged ones, somewhere between 5000-8000 miles or roughly every 6 months, do your oil change. If a well designed engine, you should never have an engine oil related problem for your entire ownership.
I would say more frequent with a turbo charger , the shafts are extremely hot and can cause coking of the oil on the bearings if not properly cooled down.
@@russellvoth5161. More frequent changes isnt going to prevent coking, that’s a user problem.
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is the best
Ever use Signature series of Amsoil using independent lab results to validate there oil.
You get what you pay for.
@@robertt9342 It will help but using a great oil that provide high temperature and high-shear viscosity does help alot . A new Garrett powermax built for the Mark eight gen 3 engines like this GTI 2024 will run you $1800 US if you don't take care of them.
Japan vs NA production: the country doesn't matter as much as the company culture.
In the 80's GM's Fremont plant was one of the worst performing and rife with personnel issues like absenteeism and substance abuse. But GM went into partnership with a little company called Toyota and applied the Japanese methodology to that plant and that plant, NUMMI, became on of the best success stories in automotive history. Except that GM couldn't replicate it in their other plants because the other non-Toyota-partnership plants had too much culture inertia to take up the lessons learned at NUMMI. In the end, all car companies did pick up from what happened with NUMMI, it's just that GM bungled the good thing that they had.
... And that plant was closed and is now in the hands of Tesla, making cars of questionable quality again, because like I said in the beginning, corporate culture matters.
I’d err on the side of caution with oil changes and go every 5K miles. Every independent mechanic I’ve delt with, and as a former chev tech in the 90’s myself, has said 5K. I change mine every 5K kms (ford recommends 8k kms which is around 5K miles).
Personally every car I’ve ever owned ive changed oil at 5K kms regular or synthetic. I’ve never had an engine blow nor major engine work and all my cars reach 300,000 kms or more before trading in. I had a Plymouth Horizon with 477,000 kms when I got rid of it.
It’s really cheap insurance.
Agree with Andrea, especially if still under Warranty, get the Oil Change the Dealer recommends. If you Blow your engine, what will "your Dealer" say? No these are not, Crown Victorias with big engines, most today are these little, turbo'd 4 bangers, and they need all the clean oil, gas, and air they can get. Oh, don't trust your Dealer? Go to another one. Mine tells me: "oh, you're too soon", yeah, Change it.
Our dealer oil change is only slightly more than the oil change places.
I always change my oil at 5,000 miles. It's the cheapest form of maintenance, and keeps the car running well.
Can you confirm “miles”? I think that should be km.
We have three Toyotas and the oil change interval is supposed to be 16,000 kms or 10,000 miles, we change them at 8,000 kms or 5,000 miles. Given our annual mileage, it means two oil changes a year vs. one……cheap insurance.
I’ve had several vehicles (that are all garage kept and driven short distances) I check the oil for smell, level, color etc. and judge for myself if I need to change it sooner than the 10k recommendation. Never had problems
If you can pay in full with cash - do so...my wife and I recently had a bad experience...we financed a 4 year old car, only to hit hard times , two years later - we got behind on payments and the vehicle was repossessed...what made us angry, was our house was closing for sale, in 18 days and the lender refused to wait...another 18 days and we could have paid it in full +...
I don't understand when people complain that all cars are the same. Then companies release vehicles with different shifters, trackpads, the Crown sedan, etc and the journalists complain that it is too different and no one will buy it. Also, a friend has a Lincoln Natalis and is mad that they had to take it to the dealer to replace the wipers because of the heated wipers... Keep up the great work.
Love your reviews. Personally, my madden Japan 2008 Toyota 4Runner still looks and drives like new after over 15.5 years. Nothing has failed and the interior and exterior look and work like new. I doubt that kind of long term reliability is common with most other brands.
Great episode. A couple of days ago, I got to get a proper road test with a Mazda 3 4-door sedan in ‘Soul Crystal Red’. It wasn’t something I’d buy (I’d of gone with the hatchback), but I was really impressed. Especially being in that hypnoticly (not a real word) mesmerizing colour-scheme. That painting technique was a masterful a achievement (it is worth a video in itself). The Mazda 3 was purchased by a close friend and was directly based on my impressions, based directly on your impressions and based on the impressions on your viewers. It was a great choice. I appreciate everyone’s … and your insights. And as always… Thanks for the video.
hypnotically is a real word
… man!… I thought I just brilliantly came up with it! Thanks for pointing out my lack of brilliance. That Mazda Red is hypnotic though… or maybe just mesmerizing. Cheers.
Mazda 3 hatch is a nice car, but that starting price of $27k is painful relative to other brands.
You guys are the best!
I love your content. Clear dialogue. Professional and unbiased delivery with humility and humor. The banter between you two is great. Are you two exclusively TH-cam auto journalists or do you have other income streams? I've always been curious about how one becomes a professional auto journalist and how one generates income.
Just TH-cam
Former filtration engineer here. The oil filter choice is more important than the oil. If you are not capturing the contaminants efficiently (or at all) then the oil is helping destroy the engine. Synthetic oils can last well past 10K miles. The filter cannot though! Oil and filter changes are cheap insurance. 5000 is the perfect interval IMHO. Make sure you buy a filter with metal end caps on the filter media, not cardboard end caps.
Hahaha I absolutely hear you with the Lincoln seats! I had the exact same reaction! I could not get comfortable in the whole week I had that press car
Since 1990 my wife and I have been buying Accords and Camrys built in the U.S. and it has been all good.
“There’s no crap car”
Fisker: Hi!
I was going to pay cash for a new Subaru Outback WIlderness, but when I got to the dealer, they were offering financing for only 1.9% APR and I was getting better than 5% on my money, so I financed it and put the money back in the bank! BTW, the Outback is made in Indiana
Let’s talk about who makes better paint!😊
Honda has horrible paint quality. Their bright red fades so badly within a few years and loses its clear coat.
@@palebeachbum and Mazda, Subaru.
Concerning 'bad' cars - I'm old enough to remember the Yugo, Citation, Vega...😮😅
I would not buy any that used small BMW SVUV without a warranty. Most of the German auto makers are starting to use more and more plastic parts that do not last. Much as I love BMW's they are a money suck when it comes to maintenance. Would never buy one without a warranty.
Driving since the 60's, I recall how most people thought very little of Japanese cars as they started to arrive in numbers. At first I agreed they were sub-par, but by the mid 70's and selling Toyotas, after years with Fords, I changed my opinion. Now in 2024, as all the "Imports" from the East are actually built here, the quality still appears superior in the "Import" brands built here. The newest domestics still struggle to deliver consistent quality. Those hidden incentives are called "money in the trunk" by the dealers I worked at. Note that All 4Runners have been built in Japan at Toyota's plant in Tahara, Aichi, or at the Hino Motors (a Toyota subsidiary) plant in Hamura.
My 2012 Honda Fit was made in China before they moved production for 2013 onwards to Mexico, and after 12 years of ownership, other than normal old car wear and tear, still a solid car inside and out.
I buy based upon whether I love the car. Of course it has to be a reliable car.
Yes. That's exactly why I've only owned one Toyota out of 12 cars owned so far. I didn't enjoy owning or driving it.
really like your content.
Regardless what the owner manual or the dealer says, I change oil every 6000 or 7000 km maximum. So many cars issue come from extended oil change periods and sadly the manufacturers are in this
Hi Guys !!, Now that I remember back years when Ford and GM started in Mexico manufacturing parts and vehicles, problems started for them. Great day and thank You, like the content.
Dealers want you to come in as often as possible for financial reasons. However, manufacturers often base their recommended intervals on marketing as much as engineering. Unless you are in clear cut extreme driving conditions (as laid out in the owners guide) then go by the extreme schedule if you can afford it. If you can't, then go by the normal schedule. If looking for years of trouble-free engine performance past the warranty term, frequent oil changes are a relatively cheap way to achieve it.
Scotty kilmer says no more than 5000 mi using a brand like mobil 1
There better brands of oil than Mobil
@@russellvoth5161. Egs
I've owned many VW /Audi products (1998-2012) and they were excellent save the DSG transmission (which are super fun to drive, they just fail around an average of 90K ) and for that reason, 4 fails, I will never buy another one. I bought a 2016 Dodge Durango R/T and had ZERO problems in 90K miles! Today I drive a Subaru, no power, but will outlast a retired guy!
Love the Durango!
The problem with North American assembly is unionization has made the workforce lazy and expensive.
Hi Andrea and Zack love your show I April 203 new Rav 4 love it thank You for video ( Ron
Have you ever looked at the owner's manual on a Honda CRV. It is really hard to figure out anything for maintenance. Maybe you can shed some light on this for me. Great video so thanks
Concerning production location, nowadays I think it matters less...especially since parts come from around the world 🌎 and engines and transmissions are assembled globally...
My 2024 CX-5 is the nicest car I've ever owned and I am 72 .
On oil changes per dealer advice: I highly recommend you check out the videos posted on this topic by Lake Speed Jr. who has the The Motor Oil Geek channel on TH-cam. He's an actual expert on the topic and has clearly spelled out reasons around why/when to change oil and the correct intervals. One spoiler alert: the intervals specified by manufacturers really tread a careful balance between meeting CAFE regulations for the amount of waste oil from the vehicles and what is best for the longevity of the machine. What you really get from manufacturer recommendations these days are intervals that maximize their credits in the emissions space but guarantee the car makes it through the warranty period. That's why you see crazy long intervals (that are never supported by oil analysis, by the way) and insane claims of "lifetime fills." Your dealer is shortening the intervals for their profit, but that doesn't mean your machine isn't getting a valuable benefit as well. Kind of a "right thing for the wrong reasons," situation here.
Just one example of above. I have driven cars from a certain german maker for a long time. They are known for regularly failing solenoids in the valve timing system that depend on oil quality and cleanliness. I change my oil about 2.5 times the frequency they recommend (they say go 22000 km, I have always done 7,500 to 10,000 km). I have never failed these solenoids on any car despite running these cars well past the commonly accepted service limit of these components but many others do.
dang, this should be pinned. Good stuff.
Great explanation, I'll check this out!
Excellent source Lake Speed on how the componets , good video.
I bought my 2009 matrix made in Cambridge Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 is very reliable i don't have any problems except i change tires brake and rotors and one battery and alternator that all
Good luck to you if you ever purchase a post-warranty used car that had 10K mile oil changes.
I have tried vehicles made in Japan and North America. The japanese made cars have better overall build quality, finish and attention to details. However people who have limited knowledge may not find a lot of difference.
Much of that is projection of your belief of it to be true vs reality. There can be some differences but it’s more likely to be plant specific.
Honda CRV have two big negatives, a small engine with a turbo and a CVT transmission. Big problems in the future.
I agree.
Service 3000 km then second one at 3000km. Then 5000 after. Daily driver once before winter and once in the spring.
How right you are saying dealerships make money when you finance. I ran an auto buying centre for years with a primary auto biz bank. Not only can they buy down the rate, but there is a flat referral/finance fee for the dealer plus a rate differential fee for upselling the rate up to 1.75% over internal base rates. I have cut dealers cheques for over $2600 on a $50000 sales contract.
Can definitely attest to the Tesla quality being better if it's made in China, specifically the Shanghai factory. Went there on a business trip and every single tesla I saw had zero panel gap issues and I rode in numerous Teslas and they never had the squeaks and rattles made in the USA had.
The China quality is primarily due to it being a newer purpose built EV factory. Fremont is an old converted factory, and quality issues were due to early production of a new vehicle platform. Quality is much better there now than it was a few years ago.
@@jamespaul2587 Giga Texas and Giga Berlin are both newer than Giga Shanghai and are purpose built factories for the model Y, yet both are rated poorer in production quality. Fremont has increased its QA significantly over the years but it's still barely a comparison to even other Giga factories around the world. So no, pinpointing the better quality simply down to a more purpose built EV factory is incorrect. Source: I work at Tesla designing the Giga castings.
@sueddo2634 thanks for the info and your insights. Giga castings will definitely be one factor to reduce cost and weight, along with improved precision and quality. The low quality from Fremont on early 3 and Y production was partly due to the new platform, however apparently the quality is much higher now and comparable to many other brands.
Its very funny as dealer suggest the change interval , any city driving i believe is extreme conditions. Oil doesn't getting warm enough city driving to get at the extra hydrocarbons released from the oil which dilute oil and provide less protection , unlike highway which for prolong time driving helps release extra hydrocarbons from the oil. Oil and filter are cheap insurance some compared to major bearing failure and possible engine detonation . More frequent oil changes can help if any sparkly metal particles suspended in the oil and filter and help prevent major damage , transmissions oil should change first change in half the time as manual suggests filter to maintain longevity for live. .
Cash is king - my dealer said 95% negotiate on payment and it makes an enormous amount more money for the dealer AND boosts satisfaction as most customers focus on their want and maximizing "what they deserve" to drive - so you more easily are "super-sized". Cash it will be transparent BUT people and the dealer might both feel they could have done better but it was okay "compromise". My car was a one page, one sided invoice and I did very well - but largely because the dealer "made an exception" to help me out and disclose more than normal.
Consumers like this are why there are now 96-month car loans. North Americans are horrendous at managing their finances.
You can finance and just be mindful of the out-the-door price. Plus, you buy what you can afford without stressing. I also get insurance quotations and take a look at their service prices.
YES!! I"m finally first to view one of your video's and first to comment!! Rock On folks!!
On my 2022 mazda cx-3, 90% percent of my driving is highway. I still do every 10,000 km full maintenance
I remember about 20-25 yrs. ago Consumer Reports did a study where 50 NY city cabs were driven 100,000 miles with no oil changes, just top ups. Another group of cabs were given regular changes. There was no significant difference in engine wear or failure of components.
I think it was 3k vs 6k intervals.
What car can go 100k miles with no oil changes?
yes and no... those old Fords run normal oil, 10-w30. A 2004 camry, runs 5w-30, today's cab of choice is Rav4 hybrid and Camry'sand few prius, all e
need 0w-20 synthetic.
I would risk pushing out oil change intervals of an old, unladed 1990s v8 vs a 4 cyclinder that is constantly being pinned down, day in, day out and was designed for/requires thin synthetic. oil.
Story seem suspect. You would they have to at least change the filter. Either way that’s a lot of sludge.
Do you have a link to the study?
If you don't consider resale value, you're more incentivized to regularly save for your vehicle replacement when you get a new one, even if it's just a little bit each month. Makes you less dependent on the market. If you get in an accident and you're able to fix it, all that "resale value" for your particular car dissappears anyway, so you might as well save as if your current car isn't gonna be worth spit and drive it for a long time.
And if you're gonna pay in cash and the dealer doesn't like that, you can always take the lease and buy it the next month. If you saved for a car with some wiggle room on the top (10% or so) it works out. But that's only if you really like the car and the dealership otherwise. I don't take good dealerships for granted 😅
Even among cars with the best resale value (Toyota comes to mind), if you keep them for long enough, the difference in resale value between them and a brand with poor resale value (let's say Hyundai) is negligible. $1,000? $2,000? Not worth it unless you genuinely prefer the car more. I don't want to drive something I don't like for 10-15yrs just because of that small resale advantage in the end. The thing is, that Toyota is likely going to cost thousands more when new anyway, so you're really just breaking even in the end.
Oil is cheap motors are not.
5k 6 months is the best insurance you can buy for your engine
I have a 2016 Murano Platinum. I got a flat and needed to use the spare. I caused a warning light to go off. The spare is not the size of the 20 inch wheels on the Platinum.
Ford Edge was manufactured in Canada and it is in the top 5 for SUV according to CR Reviews. Scoring an 81 for 2022-2024. I’ve one and it’s the best quality car I’ve owned. Go Canada!
Yup, I used to own an Edge. Just regular maintenance, nothing out of the ordinary. But my trade-in value was terrible.
???
Ford Edge is rated extremely low for reliability. Probably in the same range as most Jeep vehicles.
@@webcomment8895 maybe pre 2020 but not now. It’s just under Lexus and Buick. Best check again.
$8K to correct an infortainment system problem? OMG, you almost had me considering a X3 CPO for a second there, lol.
If you buy and hold, resale cost is not relevant. I've purchased the most attractive vehicle that clicks all the boxes that I can afford. For instance, currently in a 2001 Yukon with the same engine and tranny. Built for me. 356K miles.
I change oil every 5,000 miles, regardless of the recommended interval (it's always greater). It's cheap insurance.
I have no problem financing a vehicle to get a better deal, as long as there is no penalty for early payoff.
I follow whuts in the owners manual. My car calls for every 8000miles. But if I feel I have to change it at 5000 I'll go to a local shop and pay 29.99.
You actually have coffee. I've always been amused by Cars and Coffee videos, with no coffee anywhere.
Both sides of the globs have issues GMC/Stellantis are generally rated lower and the Toyota Tundra is having their own engine problems as well.
Actually watching Cars and Coffee in Canada! 🇨🇦 I'm a Californian but am here in Toronto at my employer's HQ for training.
That's cool!
Change your oil every 5000 miles, or every 6 months which ever comes first, if you intend to keep your car for any length of time.
Do the math, 540,000 miles on a ‘95 Dakota and a ‘98 Volvo, I change oil myself once a year, synthetic, no significant consumption, engines have never been apart.
Any thoughts on dealers not selling high-demand cars (ie, Toyota hybrids, etc) unless you have a trade-in where they make decent money on it? Seems to be a work-around for tacking on a "market rate adjustment" mark-up.
With oil changes, if you can afford to do so, more frequent is better than less frequent...with today's synthetic oil technology, 5000 miles/6 months, is a safe ballpark figure...
This is where I take issue with both Zack and Andrea for being journalist commenting on something that mechanics and engineering should be commenting. If you do your research every reputable mechanic will tell you to do 5000 miles or 6 month oil changes even on Toyotas. Just check out Car Care Nut who is a certified Toyota master technician. The recommended condition of 10,000 miles in laboratory test condition and 99.9% of real word driving falls under sever condition. Sure go ahead and do 10,000 miles or 1 year old changes and then see after 100,000 miles or 10 years if your timing chain guides last and start falling apart and break into pieces and grande the engine. If you plan to keep your car along time then do oil changes every 5,000 miles or 6 month and the only time you need synthetic oil is if you have turbocharged engine or take it on the track. Regardless of what type of oil you use regular or synthetic do oil change every 5,000 miles or 6 months. What Andrea and Zack are saying is nonsense. Neither of them are mechanics
I think we can agree that if the cost of oil change makes or brakes you , you should either buy a cheaper car or not own one to begin with .
@@sales4online734. There are many mechanics that give absolutely terrible advice, some not even reflecting reality, and engineers wrote the manual you are dismissing.
I think it’s fair for them to share their comments on this. They are basing it on the experience they have had in the industry and they present it from that point of view. If someone is equating their opinion of that of the engineers then that’s on them.
@Kim_jung_un517 Believe it or not, Kim, but I've been so broke in my past, that I scrounged up loose change, just to put gas in my car to get to work...
To be fair, the MotorMouth team "quoted" the owners manual recommendations. They didn't give brand specific advice or their own opinions. There's many high mile cars less than 6 years old with 200,000 miles that have had oils changed at owners manual intervals. Personally I change oil at 6 months or 5000 miles (8000kms) whichever occurs first.but that's me. Only once during Covid did I go 12 months. And in that 12 months I travelled 4500kms (under 3000miles). 2019 Camry SE 4 banger.
Motormouth_Andrea, I have a Question? How/WHY Doesn't Honda build a Smaller Version of the Ridgeline AWD & make it a HEV? Honda Can Call IT The Mountain & Top Trim the Peak?! WE🇨🇦🇺🇲 WANT IT ☺️😎?!
I have no issue with scheduled oil changes with my 11-year old Audi Q5. It's consuming more than 1 liter of oil a week LOL
Good rule of thumb: sales peeps enthusiastically push products or financing because they have their own interests, not yours.
Zack, do you remember the name of the Mazda premium brand? I do, let's see how good your memory is.
Amati
Every 5k for an oil change is not out of the question. Being in Canada, every 8k kms (5k miles) here. 325k on the odo in my 06' mustang gt and still going strong
An oil change is the cheapest maintenance item that can extend the life of an engine. I do mine more often than the company requires.
If Mazda wants to continue selling with higher volume numbers, I don't believe they will lean too far, into the luxury class arena...even though luxury vehicles are the most profitable...
The requirement of financing is such BS. Financing can severely affect someone buying a house as the monthly amount gets factored into the mortgage amounts.
Regarding the cash vs finance question, I doubt there is a "dealer" in existence that wouldn't prefer their customers to finance. I suspect the commenter is referring to something said by a salesperson, not an owner or even a manager. Salespeople are often young, broke, and have little training. It's pretty common for them to project their own financial understanding (or lack of) onto their customers. And a very common (mis)understanding in society in general is that cash is king in every circumstance.
Lexus and Acura premium only? Hmm, don’t know about that. I’d put Lincoln or Buick in that category. I see plenty of Lexuses in tony American suburbs alongside Mercedes-Benz.
when the maintenance is included, they do it at 10K
Excellent point!
Should be sooner , oil and filter are cheap insurance against engine and transmission problems
My 20 year old C-RV was built in England. Near bullet proof, who’d thought that from the UK.
Resale value is huge if your car gets into an accident and the insurance company totals it.
Who has the best seats and in what vehicle.?
The Car and Driver crew sits on hundreds of seats every year. They say Volvo.
Just look at various brand owners forums to see who has the least or most vehicle reliability problems.
Always listening to dealership recommendations can be as foolish as believing users comments on TH-cam, like this one! Like Zack said you have to consider the source and their hidden ncentives which affects their motivation.
Just do a search, in Europe , with synthetic oils the change interval is 15000-30000 km ( or every 12-24 months), while in North America , also synthetic oil, is 5000-10000 miles (8000-16000 km), but still the dealer makes you come each 5000-7000 km or 6 months, whichever comes first. In conclusion, in NA we’re getting screwed by the manufacturers first and then by the dealerships. It would be a good topic for Zach and Andrea to do a correct investigation/ evaluation and if there are real differences ( no BS) to explain them to us…
How about Japanese vs Korean Quality?
Overall most mechanics and people who work on cars don't think Hyundai/Kia is as good as Toyota/Honda. There are a lot of things that can be engineered into a car to make it easier to work on and last longer, and that's not so much the case with Hyundai as it is with Toyota.
If you place a high value on the opinion of a TikTok Mechancic for (probably) the 2nd most expensive purchase in your life, then by all means get your car-buying advice from social media...
Otherwise, you can get a Subscription or purchase the April, 2024 Annual Automotive Issue of Consumer Reports to get the comprehensive (mostly objective) information for New and Used vehicles from a not-for-profit organization who have been providing guidance on this subject since 1936.
When I was shopping for a car two years ago, cash is definitely not king. Three dealerships refused an all cash offer. They said it’s threat of possible money laundering. Fine, I took my cash elsewhere and bought a great car…all cash purchase.
Any thoughts on how good is a Kia Niro PHEV and I am confused between Corolla cross vs Kia Niro. I am a tall driver, 6 feet plus
Don’t know about the Cross but the Niro was only FWD. which put me off of it.
It’s funny how the dealer about range to get a maintenance service. My dealer don’t tell me at all. I look up owner manual and it’s says 6 months or 8 thousand km. Great show Andrea! ☕️☕️
Very smart to go through the owner's manual, many don't.
Resale only matters if you plan on getting rid of it. If you drive it till the wheels fall off and are the only owner, it matters none what so ever
Yah we’re in such a disposable society as no one seems to keep cars for 10+ years. Kinda sad.
Maybe crown signa for the person cross shopping cadi and crv?
Cadillac=Cattle crap.
He said. They have the same quality in place in Mexico and Germany.
That concerns me more the comforts me.
What's the difference between a Mazda 3 sedan and a Honda Civic sedan. The distance about 3,500 kilometers. But what the workers make is a world apart. In fact the Mexican auto workers earn pennies compared to the US & Canada. That savings is not reflected what we pay for the automobiles coming out of Juarez.
As such who do you want assembling your vehicle.
VW and other profit from Mexican workers. Sad
Are you going to do a new Nautilus review?
Hi guys...great content. Thanks to both of you I purchased a 2024 Mazda CX-5 for my wife back in September and she loves it. Regarding oil changes, the dealer insists on changing the oil every six months when she actually only puts about 2500 miles it every six moths. Is he right? The car uses 0W20 and we live in Chicago. Thanks!
I go 12 months or 10,000km on full synthetic. It is fine
From Consumer Reports "Which Car Brands Make the Best Vehicles?" (February 27, 2024)
1. BMW
2. Subaru
3. Porsche
4. Honda
5. Lexus
6. Mini
7. KIA
8. Mazda
9. Toyota
10. Hyundai
Of course there are variations within each brand, specific to the Model or Year... and although some of the Top 10 Brands have North American production facilities, there are no "Big 3" domestic names in Consumer Reports Top 10.
Ford is ranked #17 of 34, Chevrolet is ranked #22, Chrysler is #24 and Land Rover & Jeep round-out the bottom with #33 & #34 respectively.
Kia ahead of Toyota and Hyundai one step behind? What are they basing these results on? First 3 months of ownership?
@@palebeachbum Here's your answer:
How We Score Reliability
Every year CR asks its members about problems they’ve had with their vehicles in the previous 12 months. This year we gathered data on over 330,000 vehicles, from the 2000 to 2023 model years, with a few early-introduced 2024 model years.
We study 20 trouble areas, from nuisances-such as squeaky brakes and broken interior trim-to major bummers, such as potentially expensive out-of-warranty engine, transmission, EV battery, and EV charging problems. We use that information to give reliability ratings for every major mainstream model.
We weigh the severity of each type of problem to create a predicted reliability score for each vehicle, from 1 to 100. We use that information to give reliability ratings for every major mainstream vehicle. (The reliability rating is then combined with data collected from our track testing, as well as our owner satisfaction survey results and safety data, to calculate each test vehicle’s Overall Score.)
This year we have addressed the rapidly growing number of electrified offerings that automakers are producing: hybrids, plug-in hybrids (PHEV), and electric vehicles (EV). As a result, we added three new trouble areas: electric motor, EV/hybrid battery, and EV charging:
• Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles have 17 potential trouble areas.
• EVs can have up to 12 trouble areas. Traditional ICE problems are not included, such as those with the engine and transmission.
• Hybrids have 19 potential trouble areas: 17 from ICE vehicles, as well as electric motor and EV battery.
• Plug-in electric vehicles (PHEVs) can experience all 20 trouble areas: 17 from ICE vehicles, as well as electric motor, EV battery, and EV charging.
@@OhNoMrBill-yg3dy Thanks for the info. So it's an initial quality survey. Interesting that Kia has better initial quality than Toyota and that has been the case for a few years now. I owned a 2018 Hyundai Elantra and found the overall initial quality better than the 2020 Corolla I had as a rental on vacation. It wasn't as engaging to drive either.
@@palebeachbum I'm not sure what you read, but there is no mention of "Initial Quality" in the Consumer Reports text. You may be thinking of J.D.Power who actually report this statistic. BTW, there are hits & misses in the reliability of individual Models within Brands, so it's always best to research the specific model(s) you're interested in. I believe Zack covered this point in a recent QC&C episode where he mentioned "fails" with both Toyota and Honda.
@@OhNoMrBill-yg3dy my mistake. I read "problems in the previous 12 months" as "first 12 months".
Mazda CX-5 is built in Japan and CX-50 is built in the US, I wonder if anyone can tell me if there are any differences in build quality ?
Oil changes for any turbocharged engines (whether it is a 4cyl,6cyl,8cyl), just do it every 5k-7k kms if you want to keep it running healthy and longer - you'll wear out that turbocharger eventually if any more than that. Don't fall for "lifetime" fluids - that's all rubbish.
"Cash is King" is only for those who are going to keep the vehicle for more than 10 years - in a way, what interest you escaped from goes to maintenance in repairs if you had to pay out of pocket unless you are a DIY person resulting to saving hundreds/thousands of dollars. If you want to make both yours and the banks money work for the car, you finance or lease then be rid of the unit before/after your term or once your warranty is out. Because if you pay cash and lets say there is an emergency that you need that all that money you spent on one shot, you lose.Just watch out for the incentives and 'lower' interest rates.
If you are always thinking about resale value, don't keep the vehicle too long because that is only for those who flip cars for a living or collectors. If you really enjoy driving, that should not be on your mind.
I agree about Tesla units assembled & manufactured in China - seen them and I'm impressed but will not go near the brand because of more cons than pros
Scotty Kilmer says to do oil changes every 5,000 miles regardless of what the dealer or manufacturer says - because - oil is cheap - engines are not.
Scotty is a hack who frequently spreads misinformation.
My friend was impressed by the look of Mazda but once you sat it in the quality is far from true premium interiors - Lexus, in particular. All the touch points feel a level up.
if i am dropping big big bucks stellantis and ford hyundai are not on my list
Resale value still matters even if you think you will own that car forever. Let's say someone rear ends you and it's considered a total. They won't value it at what you paid for it.
I think the work ethic in Japan is far superior to that of in USA and even more so compared to Mexico. If the same is manufactured in Japan, I'd rather buy that even if same was available, made in another Country.
Had 2 Hyundai’s in a row a 2009 Elantra that was built in Korea and a 2010 Santa Fe that was built in the US and the Elantra had better build quality than the Santa Fe.