I work for our local council and maintain the transit fleet. Every ecoblue we have had , has gone back ford under warrenty for the injectors. All of them in some cases.2019 and 2020 some vans not even done 500miles and had to go back in as in limp mode . The state of the injector u pulled , And to have them seize after 2 years is a disgrace. Ford care more about the mighty dollar then build quality Great video .
the are addressing the concern on 2021 builds, they say its corrosion through condensation under the sound proofing and will be modifying and adding extra seals. As for the previous 5 years worth of vehicles, we have to endure that sometimes 13 ton hydraulic tools cannot shift them.....Like you say, poor design
Great video! I’m a massive Ford fan, especially Transits and Mondeo but these new engines are scaring me! I’ve got a mk7 jumbo that’s rotting away but I can’t see me getting a mk8 or newer. Such a shame as I love the brand!
Hey there. Thank you for the great video. I got a brand new Ford Edge with similar panther engine. I found out some surface rust on the injector rail and gully similar to shown here. I cleaned up the rust and sprayed some CorrosionX (a strong marine grade Corrosion inhibitor that resists salt water and pressure washing). Not sure if this will work to stop water intrusion. Only time will tell. I did check the car a week later and no rust or water is around.
Well, I was going to make a comment about the video not featuring a multimeter of some sort, and then one popped up at the end! 😂 Good work as always mate. 👍
Great video thank you loving the puller tool Right tools make life easier Job well done and now send tool my way Just to tell I like tools the more the better 😂 All the best mate and take care
Nice job there Steve , that's a proper piece of kit the removal tool, much more professional than a can of coke and a bar n screwdrivers 😂😂, probably costs a few quid though 👍👍👍
Well thankyou for the good info ..helpful 😊I left my 2018 van 30k at the Ford Service centre 0800 as it was almost impossible to drive , they called 1230 pm told the issue was an injector but should be ok to pick up 4:00 pm alas 2:30 they called “seized in “ NOW having difficulty getting it out won’t be ready today obviously they don’t have a puller lol 😂
Great video, thanks for posting. Got an M Sport Transit Custom (2017) which keeps triggering a "service required" message when the engine is under load. Had a service so know it's not that (doing it before the service and after). Suspect one or more of the injectors are faulty so this video will be a great help if replacement doesn't go to plan. Thanks. Now just need to find out the procedure for coding the injectors in 🙂
Forscan can code the injectors. I will attempt to produce a video today if i get the chance. Please subscribe and hit notifications and you will know when i've uploaded
@@SYDiagnostics Great, thank you. Just subscribed. Both my twins are apprentice service techs with Jaguar Land Rover (Guy Salmon) and just completing their 3rd year. I'll get them to subscribe as well.
Update after 7k miles. Cleaning up and spraying corrosion X on my Ford Edge practically kept my injectors clean with so signs of rust and hopefully my mechanic will be happy down the line when she doesn’t have to face a seized injector. Hope you guys with Transit benefit from this idea.
I've got one showing low rail pressure codes, it will start on easy start but it puts out a lot of heavy diesel smoke and knocks. It is on a rwd so I'm guessing it is going to end up being a nightmare to get the rear injectors out.
I can confirm these injectors are rubbish having already had the head off a 2017 Transit for 3!!! Seized and blowing. It had already been back to ford once in its warranty to have repairs done. Nice puller I need one of those plus do you know if ford have any modifications for the fact water gets in there. Fantastic video as usual.
Would a bit of graphite grease or high temp brake grease like ceratec applies to the injector body be a good preventive measure to stop the corrosion. Toyota have the same problem with some of their injectors, I have used ceratec in the past and it worked a treat.
Hi do you know if that tool would fit over and grab a Delphi injector from a Ford Kuga mk1. The threads broke and I need a puller to grab hold of the injector. Do you think that tool could fit over and grab it. Any information you can give would be great. Thank you
Great Video, i have question, where we can buy this tool and does injector need programming after change? we have one car 2.0 and ford is not taking responsibility for changing injectors, they asked us to sign contract if they do it and it might need to change whole engine.
Great video👍 do you buy the puller tool from Ford? I look after a few of them new Transits , not had a problem yet , Probably get a stuck injector from hell now I said that lol . It looks rusty as if water collects in the troff, like vauxhall vivaros
£155 plus tax and shipping, i could feel the injector start to move. I was just at the point of getting the torque wrench out when it started to feel slack.
Cheap crappy injectors or cheap crappy fuel supplying the injector causing issues ? Used to love my fords and owned plenty of them but current one is my last one, build qaulity has went downhill over the years.
Nice video mate, shame the injector wasn't as tight as some I've done you would have needed a lot longer spanner than that, I've had 20 tonnes hydraulic force on them several times.
@@SYDiagnostics would you be so kind as to make a video about them? I just purchased a 2017 Ford transit 2.0 170 ecoblue. Thing runs like a charm. The only thing is that I heard numerous horror stories about this model. On the other side, I have a friend with 3 such models who didn’t have any issue with them! Thank you for all the great work and effort you put in making these videos!
@@andreibadila it wouldn't really be right for me to make a video of the faults. Nice idea as it may be and could well be a popular video. I work on Ford daily and this could prove bad for me
What ford upto see that rust and stuck injecters on an engine that's only done 13k. You add that to the blown ecoboost engines and Mondeo racks that fall apart...something wrong at ford for sure.
I broke one straight off once... Quickest fix was to drill it out with the cleaning tool 😂. I don't recommend that fix but the vehicle had to be on the road daily.
Bloody fords! They seem to have come a long way regards looks but not with quality components! What’s that tester unit called? Looks absolutely bit of kit
Tool number is 303-1706
The puller that you used was impressive, thanks for showing
You got to love seized injectors 🥵... the puller works well I need to get some rimmers 👍👍👍 top work Steve
Thanks for watching, I can get you the number for these Ford ones, but they are just for this engine
Cheers mate that would be cool cheers 👍
I work for our local council and maintain the transit fleet. Every ecoblue we have had , has gone back ford under warrenty for the injectors. All of them in some cases.2019 and 2020 some vans not even done 500miles and had to go back in as in limp mode . The state of the injector u pulled , And to have them seize after 2 years is a disgrace. Ford care more about the mighty dollar then build quality Great video .
the are addressing the concern on 2021 builds, they say its corrosion through condensation under the sound proofing and will be modifying and adding extra seals. As for the previous 5 years worth of vehicles, we have to endure that sometimes 13 ton hydraulic tools cannot shift them.....Like you say, poor design
Great video! I’m a massive Ford fan, especially Transits and Mondeo but these new engines are scaring me! I’ve got a mk7 jumbo that’s rotting away but I can’t see me getting a mk8 or newer. Such a shame as I love the brand!
Hey there. Thank you for the great video. I got a brand new Ford Edge with similar panther engine. I found out some surface rust on the injector rail and gully similar to shown here. I cleaned up the rust and sprayed some CorrosionX (a strong marine grade Corrosion inhibitor that resists salt water and pressure washing). Not sure if this will work to stop water intrusion. Only time will tell. I did check the car a week later and no rust or water is around.
prevention is better than cure, lets hope your injectors are Ok, The car range don't seem to suffer any way near as much as Transit
great video and camera work exactly what i needed to see thanks
Thanks for your comments
Can see that becoming a task like the M9r engines 🥵
Ford version of the Vauxhall Vivaro problem, scuttle pissing water straight onto the gully on the top of the head right where injectors sit.
Well, I was going to make a comment about the video not featuring a multimeter of some sort, and then one popped up at the end! 😂
Good work as always mate. 👍
Got to have the multimeter in it somewhere 😂
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 10:54am Good Morning 🙏 🌄
Great video thank you loving the puller tool
Right tools make life easier
Job well done and now send tool my way
Just to tell I like tools the more the better 😂
All the best mate and take care
What is the likely hood of cracking the rocker cover?
I've not broken one using this tool, however, many injectors require excessive force to remove and damage may occur
Nice job there Steve , that's a proper piece of kit the removal tool, much more professional than a can of coke and a bar n screwdrivers 😂😂, probably costs a few quid though 👍👍👍
I pretty sure it's about £165 + vat
303-1706
Well thankyou for the good info ..helpful 😊I left my 2018 van 30k at the Ford Service centre 0800 as it was almost impossible to drive , they called 1230 pm told the issue was an injector but should be ok to pick up 4:00 pm alas 2:30 they called “seized in “ NOW having difficulty getting it out won’t be ready today obviously they don’t have a puller lol 😂
Pulled isn't always guaranteed to remove the injector. I've had plenty seized in.
Great video, thanks for posting. Got an M Sport Transit Custom (2017) which keeps triggering a "service required" message when the engine is under load. Had a service so know it's not that (doing it before the service and after). Suspect one or more of the injectors are faulty so this video will be a great help if replacement doesn't go to plan. Thanks. Now just need to find out the procedure for coding the injectors in 🙂
Forscan can code the injectors. I will attempt to produce a video today if i get the chance. Please subscribe and hit notifications and you will know when i've uploaded
@@SYDiagnostics Great, thank you. Just subscribed. Both my twins are apprentice service techs with Jaguar Land Rover (Guy Salmon) and just completing their 3rd year. I'll get them to subscribe as well.
Update after 7k miles. Cleaning up and spraying corrosion X on my Ford Edge practically kept my injectors clean with so signs of rust and hopefully my mechanic will be happy down the line when she doesn’t have to face a seized injector.
Hope you guys with Transit benefit from this idea.
hopefully, you'll not need to have them changed. Seems to me its just the transit that suffers with the seized injectors
Nice job mate that's all certainly makes your life a lot easier you need new batteries for your multimeter😋😋
yes, im saving up for them it takes 6 x aa batteries. I could do with an ever-ready site sponsorship lol
Hope your editing the next cosworth video Leon 😍
What are the symptoms before you need to pull the injectors? Great video, that puller is the job 👌🏻
misfires, rough running, p126* codes
I've got one showing low rail pressure codes, it will start on easy start but it puts out a lot of heavy diesel smoke and knocks.
It is on a rwd so I'm guessing it is going to end up being a nightmare to get the rear injectors out.
Great video, can i ask what size reamer bits you used.
Im unsure, they are part of the ford kit
I can confirm these injectors are rubbish having already had the head off a 2017 Transit for 3!!! Seized and blowing. It had already been back to ford once in its warranty to have repairs done. Nice puller I need one of those plus do you know if ford have any modifications for the fact water gets in there. Fantastic video as usual.
you'd have thought by now that they'd address the concern, but to date nothing has been done
Would a bit of graphite grease or high temp brake grease like ceratec applies to the injector body be a good preventive measure to stop the corrosion. Toyota have the same problem with some of their injectors, I have used ceratec in the past and it worked a treat.
@@grantwatkins7402 there is a special grease we use when re-fitting the injectors, seems its not used at production though
Grant Watkins good idea mate
Great video! These Piezo injectors have return lines. Could I do back leak test to confirm a bad injector? Could that test be conclusive?
yes a back leak test is possible
Great life saver there
Aced it again Sir. You da man!👍
I appreciate that
Excellent video Steve. Is this also an issue on the 2.2?
not had an issue with the 2.2. Thanks for the comments
@@SYDiagnostics Glad to hear, I have the 2.2!!, thanks mate
Hi do you know if that tool would fit over and grab a Delphi injector from a Ford Kuga mk1. The threads broke and I need a puller to grab hold of the injector. Do you think that tool could fit over and grab it. Any information you can give would be great. Thank you
I could not say for certain as the tool is designed for this specific injector
Great Video, i have question, where we can buy this tool and does injector need programming after change? we have one car 2.0 and ford is not taking responsibility for changing injectors, they asked us to sign contract if they do it and it might need to change whole engine.
Can see this being a lovely job in 10 years time with 170,000 on the clock
yes, they are fast becoming an issue
Don't think these engines will last that long!
Probably need the third or fourth set by that mileage😂😂😂
50% love and hope worked 😂😂😂
a special formula
Hi I am interested in the puller tool could you please help?
ford special tools website
Are these new engines any better than the hdi ones what would you say about them
They aren't without their issues for sure
Any chance you could post the part number for this tool?
send me an email
SY Diagnostics how can I find your email for part number please
@@richardpinson1234 its in the video description sydiagnostics2019@gmail.com
Love this channel 😁
Many thanks for your support and comments.
Where can i buy this pulling Tool? It‘s impressive!
Well steve brilliant videos always...like the reamer set...could you post a link for that tool I've got one here with 2 injectors in trouble...😢😢
If you email me (link in description) I'll give you the number. Don't want to post it here
Hey steve I've sent a message on in messenger to you..if that helps
Thank you
@@SYDiagnostics gentleman steve ...👍👍
I got a cylinder 2 circuit malfunction code.
I'm having real ballache removing it. Can even get it to turn with stiltsons
yep.....turning into a nightmare engine for injector removal
Hi where can I buy this puller from? I rang evanhalshaw Wolverhampton and they said we don’t sell tools! Any help would be much appreciated.
Ford special tools site
Could please share link to me for 1? I am struggling to locate one, any help will be greatly appreciated thanks
Great video👍 do you buy the puller tool from Ford? I look after a few of them new Transits , not had a problem yet , Probably get a stuck injector from hell now I said that lol . It looks rusty as if water collects in the troff, like vauxhall vivaros
Well designed puller & no doubt cost an arm & a leg but how did you know you weren't exceeding the 250Nm max torque load using a spanner?
£155 plus tax and shipping, i could feel the injector start to move. I was just at the point of getting the torque wrench out when it started to feel slack.
SY Diagnostics not horrifically expensive if it saves time and damage
@@SYDiagnostics i am interested in purchasing. Do you have it for sale?
@@SYDiagnostics hello. Where can i buy this tool?
Cheap crappy injectors or cheap crappy fuel supplying the injector causing issues ? Used to love my fords and owned plenty of them but current one is my last one, build qaulity has went downhill over the years.
Can you supply the part number for this tool please
Is this only on the Transit?
this engine is also in other vehicles, but so far only the transits seem to seize
@@SYDiagnostics that's just ridiculous, , without those tools I'd never get or replace that type of situation
@@alanw5879 the tool is commercially available
Nice video mate, shame the injector wasn't as tight as some I've done you would have needed a lot longer spanner than that, I've had 20 tonnes hydraulic force on them several times.
Yeah there are some stubborn ones that would destroy that tool
Do we have a water ingress issue here.... thats a whole lotta rust on a low mileage vehicle.
yes it appears thats the issue, even though the injectors are under a cover and then the air box sits on top.
@@SYDiagnostics As you probably know Renaults suffer the same fate.... although you did manage to pull the injector on one piece! Good video.
Thanks for sharing... Cheers.
Thanks for the visit
Who's tooling is that that you used to pull it?
Its a Ford supplied tool
Excellent video SYD. what would you do if that was your van? Is that scuttle water that gets onto the head? Can it be stopped?
I thi k if it where my van lid be looking at diverting the water for sure
What s your opinion on panther transit 170 engines? Are they reliable ?
Nice engine but There are issues that are well documented
@@SYDiagnostics would you be so kind as to make a video about them? I just purchased a 2017 Ford transit 2.0 170 ecoblue. Thing runs like a charm. The only thing is that I heard numerous horror stories about this model. On the other side, I have a friend with 3 such models who didn’t have any issue with them! Thank you for all the great work and effort you put in making these videos!
@@andreibadila it wouldn't really be right for me to make a video of the faults. Nice idea as it may be and could well be a popular video. I work on Ford daily and this could prove bad for me
I would advise to check if the timing belt recall is due and any software updates
thats a top tip use a reamer. was the love mix coco cola
the colonels secret formula
Ford now greases the injectors slots on the line 👍
What ford upto see that rust and stuck injecters on an engine that's only done 13k. You add that to the blown ecoboost engines and Mondeo racks that fall apart...something wrong at ford for sure.
wow seize injector it is a good thing they have puler
I broke one straight off once... Quickest fix was to drill it out with the cleaning tool 😂. I don't recommend that fix but the vehicle had to be on the road daily.
Wow it looked like it had been in sea 🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈
ha ha yeah, they do get a bit rusty
18k and new injector wow
reminds me of a wisdom tooth extraction.
One way of describing it 😂
Those metals don’t like each other much🙄
What a mess! After only 2 years even.
If it's not the timing belts failing at low miles its the bloody injectors aswell I'm wishing i never bought my van now its only got 49k
Bloody fords! They seem to have come a long way regards looks but not with quality components! What’s that tester unit called? Looks absolutely bit of kit
its an insulation tester by megger, you can get far cheaper ones for around £30-40
SY Diagnostics yeh but that looks the dogs bollocks
I'd put an impact on it, lol 🙃
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