Porsche Macan FULL REVIEW Facelift 2020 - this or Macan S? Autogefühl
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Autogefühl what color is it?
Autogefühl what kind of mpg did you get ? Thank you
This is the most honest, balanced car review I've ever seen. He intelligently gives you the pros and cons of each feature, states his opinion clearly but not forcefully, and asks you to think about how important each is to you. This is the most beneficial input I've had in making my decision.
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I enjoy the German no nonsense approach to your videos. The absence of fluff and extra noise of a lot of UK and US reviewers in a nice welcome.
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Tomas is the best reviewer on youtube. I really like how you speak your mind and don't just tow the manufacturer's line. Listen to your rant at 24:40 is pure gold.
Thanks so much!!
Thomas, like your straightforward style, you're breath of fresh air, thank you
Like even before watching...I known it's a good review already just waiting for the coffee so that I can watch and relax :).
As always, everyone here is waiting for you to sit at the back to check headroom and legroom space. Thank you Thomas, best thorough review.
I have done numerous test-drives of the 2018 Macan S and the 2018 base Macan, and I agree with you that the Macan S is not sufficiently better than the base Macan to warrant the extra cost. I think that the base Macan is fine, and indeed in the USA, it appears that about 80% of all the Macans sold are base Macans. The options get expensive really fast, and in the USA, once can spec out a $50k base Macan to the tune of $120k (i.e., $70k options for a $50k vehicle). Crazy. I at first was going to special-order a Macan S, but after I spent time driving both vehicles several times on the same day for comparison, I just could not justify the extra expense, and I'm special-ordering a base Macan.
Nobody talks about it, but I really miss the loss of two audio/media features that have been eliminated in 2019 Porsches that were present in earlier 4-door Porsches: the CD player, and the Jukebox (the latter conveniently storing tons of music that you load into the car's computer system.
Thanks again for a great review!
thanks for the feedback!
Great review, looking to but 2019 S and this helped my decision.
My go to channel for all car reviews. Very detailed , straight to the point with a touch of German quality!
Way to go!!
This guy is so honest, I watched his video before I purchased my base Cayman, he said it was enough and he was right... Thanks.
thanks Joe ! - enjoy and please recommend us =)
Very Nice review as usual. Thx 👌👍
I just found out this channel on TH-cam and I can’t stop watching the reviews of BMWs and Porsches! Great content! Keep up the good work, and please develop this content with more interaction with viewers etc etc, like TopGear 👍👍👍
Welcome !!
Love this presentation. Great Job
Lovely review as always. My next car :D
Great machine..great presentation.
GREAT REVIEW THANKS
I finally collected my first-ever Porsche, a Macan S in Dolomite Silver, a few days ago. Still learning to operate all the controls, menus and buttons ! A solidly-build car that is re-assuring and fun to drive. Thanks Thomas and Autogefuhl !
enjoy !
Really appreciate the thorough review. We have a ‘17 base Macan that is fully spec’d and have very much enjoyed that over over the last few years. We r contemplating ordering f a ‘20 Macan S so this review was very timely.
Cheers! Also seen our Macan S review? Linked in the description and in comments
Beige or bright interior is ALWAYS a must for me. It’s very inviting and uplifting. Also very elegant and upscale.
But it get dirty faster.
Amazing review!
To everyone complaining about the power you need to know that this car does the 0-100 quicker than the first gen cayenne s which had 340hp.
You really feel the lack of power in higher speed. The problem is price to performance ratio, the Macan S really does not cost that much more (it’s objective but not much when you can afford the Macan 4 cylinder)
ca m did you ever drive it?
Bean you will save a lot on gas with this engine, if you do more than 500 km/week you will end with a lot of savings.
Best macan review so far on YT.
thanks Marcos!
Fantastic review! Personally, I love the updated Macan - just improving on an already brilliant vehicle. Love the interior (with all the pushable buttons too) - feels much more like a drivers car compared to any of the Macan's competitors.
thanks!
Love your reviews. Love from Chicago :)
best greetings!
Great review as always! As comprehensive as it gets. Great watch(alpina pilot) by the way ;)
Thanks a lot!:)
Nice vehicle for a very interesting review.
Yes, pricing - and extras policy - is always something to discuss with these expensive cars. And no HUD! Blank switches? Great Thomas Review; really enjoyed your driving, and your commentary. Many thanks.
thanks john!
I really appreciate your reviews!
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Another excellent review. Thank you.
thanks keep tuning in :)
Congratulations on the new Porsche Macan video 2020.
Master Razvan Thank you very much.
thank you so much for a great great video
The best crossover in its class but very expensive Nice review
Really appreciate this review. Especially comments on differences of naturally aspirated, larger displacement engines. I like idea of S model but 1 sec doesn't seem to justify additional overall cost.
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Very pleasant review, danke! :)
Always a delight to watch your reviews, Thomas. Lovely vehicle and nice crisp video quality too. One question: What keeps wild animals from wondering out of the forest onto the Autobahn roadway?
Cheers! Well it does happen of course, but there are fences etc. and recently, more and wold "forest bridges" are being built so they can cross over a green bridge
Surprising turn of speed for big machine with smaller engine. Yet the sound is perhaps not so good. Good review as always. Thanks
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Good review
Hello Thomas. Thanks for the great review. I want to say, please do more reviews about smaller cars. And maybe more french cars, if you are interested into.
Have a nice Day or Night.
Thanks! We ll try to bring you a lot of variation, not so many small cars coming out hehe
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Best review on TH-cam.....Always.. ..really enjoying watching your channel..!!
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Mesmerizing voice 👌🏼
Como siempre gran revisión a un gran auto, gracias!!
muchas gracias!
Very well done test and informative in all respects. I had an Cayenne S in the past and really enjoyed the power. I therefor would go for the bigger engine of the Macan S. But nothing wrong with the base model ! Superb Porsche !!
thanks keep tuning in! Check out our Macan facelift reviews:
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God thanks it still has buttons and not those stupid touch screens that are dirty all the time and are a pain in the ass to use while driving
Ah, this is what I need to start a beautiful morning! :D
enjoy =)
Best video, Thank you! I will buy this car after that video...👍
What color is it?
RE: Base model or "s". I have driven both extensively but eventually bought the base model (because I had got and extremely good price on it and it fit my budget). With that in mind, this review is exactly right - kinda humming and hawing about the engine. That's how I feel. It is totally fast enough, but the car feels more special in the larger engine. But here's the funny thing. When I drive the S model in the city, sport mode is too much and not much fun so I leave it in normal (you can barely touch the gas pedal without going over speed limit, and the interior noise gets quite loud). The base model on the other hand is fun to drive in sport mode when in the city (higher revs, better response). I also find that the base model in sport mode is about 4 l/100 better than the S model. Price no object, I'd go S model - only for the few times a month I may want to just drive for fun. My point is, as a daily driver, you're not missing much at all with the base - and it actually might be more fun and suitable for city driving. But from an emotional standpoint, the S (or higher) is better. Ultimately buying a Porsche is an emotional purchase to begin with, and there's the rub :)
cool, thanks for the feedback!
excellent point...i had a '15 S and now own a '20 base and drives mostly in the city and ur right absolutely right, its a fun car for city driving!!! loving the updated PCM btw
Thanks for the great video. Would you option the thermo insulated glass? Do they really help cut down noise? Worth it?
Porsche are missing a trick in the Macan, it needs a another screen opposite the passenger seat, like in the 812 Ferrari . Excellent review
excellent review!
Der Anzug passt PERFEKT zum Auto! Top😁👌🏼!! Lg
Merci =)
Nice review as usual Thomas, I would like to ask please a technical question why VW 2.0 TFSI engine with the new version has 245hp lower than the old one with 252hp?
Thanks! WLTP emission testing cycle is the reason
I will be keeping my 2015 Macan S. No problems 56K miles and so fun still!! I love it and its paid off so off I go..I do not have the adaptive cruise control but my wife's 2018 Audi S5 does and it is not that great.
Nice and professional review. We finally went for the Tiger in Crayon color with 20 inch turbo wheels. Macan GTS is top but unfortunately no longer payable because of the taxes from our government.
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My wife just ordered this car.......she got Mahogany Metallic.....she had seen the color on a Cayenne and it looked pretty cool. Nice review.
Cheers and enjoy the drive!
Great review as always Thomas however I believe as with the pre-facelift the PASM does not lower the car by 15mm. PASM in other Porsche models does indeed lower the car. The GTS has a lower 15mm suspension or if you get Air suspension then it’s lower by 10mm at standard level or 20mm lower on ‘low’ level. Macan ride height is very complex and a topic of lots of discussion on the Macan Forum website ! As for ride quality, 20 inch or less is ok with steel or PASM but 21 inch you should really get Air suspension. Also as you said, if you are a bigger person or sit legs spread then the comfort seats are certainly more comfortable than the sports seats as the side and thigh bolsters are quite aggressive. It would also be a good feature to have the letters beside the gearshift light up to tell you which gear you are in easily as the gear position on the center dial is quite small and difficult to read. How do you know the power of the facelift turbo ? 440hp. Do you have some secret information that you let us know ?
Thanks for the feedback! Ah ok yeah that might have just been for the GTS.
The 2,9 l downsized engine for the Turbo is already announced.
Macan Turbo
2.9 V6 (so far 3.6 l)
440 PS (so far 400 PS)
Got that info for a couple of month now
Great and complete review. Thomas I agree with that interior looks so older Panamera ...just way too many buttons!
thanks pal !
Love my Macan turbo but hope they’ll upgrade buttons to cayenne style soon
Love the buttons
As always Thomas another incredible review, one that means a lot as this is one of the cars in which I’m considering to purchase.. Alongside the Audi SQ5 or maybe Range Rover Velar, if the Macan is an option then I think maybe S model would be my choice? As always I love your in - depth reviews one of the best on You Tube..
thanks Mark !!
mark valentine defo worth taking macan for a test drive. I wanted the Range Rover Velar but compared to driving a dynamic Macan the Velar felt like a big boat or van with much poorer build quality
I was digging the previous tail lights more to be honest, I feel this new connecting line makes it look heavier. Still a lovely car though!
ESOXMora I was thinking the same thing but seeing them at night is a whole different ball game
Have you at Autogeül tried any hydrogen (fuelcell) cars? Those are interesting me very much lately.
Great review as always, very thourough as usual :)
Hey m8, had one here: th-cam.com/video/_GGm9E5Ouv0/w-d-xo.html
I'd have to opt for the 6cyl. s version and just get the chrono and beige interior. The cost will still be a lot lower than the 4cyl. optioned up and I'll smile more when I have to pass those long tractor trailer trucks. Good review as always.
Thanks 🙏
White exterior paint and beige interior is OK, but "Thomas" blue paint and beige interior (preferably a little darker) are definitely the finest combination on a car like this :)
oh yeah
Save the extra’s and go for the Macan S. However, my wild card would be the Alfa Stelvio Quadrifoglio.
Tomas! could you tell me what is the watch you are wearing in this video, please?
what camera are you using to film?
Driving a 2018 with 2.0 engine. Original MSRP was $47K USD + $13K in options; but the dealership had put 9K miles on it, using it as a loaner. So, I was able to buy it for $45,500. Warranty goes to 2024. No “animal leather”. 18-inch wheels (absorbs road irregularities better, I think). Big $$ options on original window sticker were Premium Package Plus ($5950) and Connect Plus ($1700). Especially in Sport Mode, it accelerates all I need it to do and that at 25-26 mpg.
Sounds great!
Autogefühl ... I was thinking of your opening question about whether the Base Macan would provide the Porsche experience. If someone had been driving a 6 cylinder turbo “with frequent hard acceleration, they would notice the difference, of course (there’s a concept in psychology called “ just noticeable difference”), but, for me, even having once owned a Boxster, this 2.0 never lets you forget what marque you’re driving. If I hadn’t found this particular CPO example, I would have bought a 2019 Base with limited options-maybe panoramic roof. But I agree with you about not inflating the purchase price with large wheels that make the ride harsher.
I like the color combination, but i would go even further with a light silver metallic and cream/ivory interior. Silver and white-ish ivory. After writing the comment i realized what Thomas is wearing. Exactly that color combination on a car. I've always had black cars and beige interior, next i'll go with Thomas's colours for the car.
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Nice Q5
Every manufacturer runs out of ideas and clumsily makes a ridiculous light strip of its taillights. And the dated wheels are a fatal flaw in my book.
Digiphex Electronics porsche has had a light bar since the 1960’s so hardly run out of ideas with this one
Digiphex Electronics totally agree the 1st gen had really cool rear light clusters in 3 D and now it looks horrible in their plain light bar configuration
Too small and under powered for my taste. A six cylinder twin turbo would help - but if I'm going to spend over $100K, I'll cry a little (over he added cost) and buy the Cayenne. I am always envious of the Autobahn's speed limits (or lack thereof). Here in North Carolina, the max speed limit is 117 kph.
Tu as un flair pour les présentations, Et j'en ai vu plusieur par toi. La Mercedes GLB, GLE, Et ma préféré la Bentley GT, v8 2020.
Not liking the rear light strip, it makes it look narrower (just like on Audi A7).
Overall it's still just an older Q5 well paid-off... So for sure it's easy money for Porsche
sebxx I don’t like that either. My reason on this specific Porsche is because that rear light design make it look like a Lincoln. In general I think that single LED stripe is a poor solution from the designers, sooner than later you’ll see it in every car, just think about it, even the Bugatti Chiron has that, A7 as you mentioned, A8, Porsche 911, etc. They’re not even trying.
You can't get those RS wheels on the Base Macan in Canada, the biggest wheel is the 20" Macan Turbo wheel which adds $4790 to the base price.
You need bigger wheels on this to make it look proportionally correct IMO.
This then drives the price up to $65000 for a 4 cylinder/248 hp base model which is now in Mercedes GLC 43 AMG territory. (6 cylinders/twin turbo/390 hp)
How badly do you want that Porsche badge?
Porsche is one of the best cars you can buy. Period.
there is NO subtitute!!!
My mom has this in white and tan interior just like this one and she loves it but we have a suede interior and a clock
I like the beige interior, it looks more elegant than an all-black interior. What‘s your personal preference: Would you go for the 18way sports seats or the 14way comfort seats?
Depends on which u can get with sport tex or race tex
Does the Macan S have the same 3.0 V6 Turbo engine as the S5/S4 and the Macan Turbo gets the 2.9 V6 TT engine from the RS4/5 that is in the Cayenne S now as well as the new S6 S7
yeah Macan S = 3.0 V6, Macan Turbo = 2.9 V6 Twin Turbo aye
I like the overall facelift, especially the interior but if Porsche is going to use a VW 4 cylinder they need to use the 300hp version not the GTI version. Shame.
I like the Macan's design but all the competitors are much cheaper and have more room. I would compare this to the BMW X3 30i M sport. The BMW is 12k dollars less comparably equipped. What do you think Thomas?
As always, Thomas is spot on with his review!
Thx kev! True, the x3 is the better deal
kevin n ha ha ha a bmw x3 is for old people like you
@@AbcD-td4ml a 4 cylinder Porsche Macan is the same price as a X3 M40i.... Good luck with your pretentious Porsche GTI
kevin n the X3 is just a car.....the Porsche Macan makes u feel special
@@MW-gi1tr Your cheque from Porsche is in the mail.
Hello, I need to decide between the Macan S and the X3 M40I:Which one is better for responsiveness and short lag time? If I get the Macan S, it will be without the sport chrono package.Which of these two cars is able to respond better when you need to do a quick acceleration from low speed? (For example, if you are at stop sign and you need to take off very quickly, or if you are entering a highway and you need to raise your speed very quickly, or when you need to do a quick takeover manoeuvre.) Thanks
Hi! Best to compare our X3 reviews first, we got a couple of them:
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=bmw+x3+autogefuehl
Hi, I watched the X3 reviews but I don't see the comparison to MacanS in any of the videos. Could you help me please and give me your opinion on my question above. Thanks again.
Well you can compare the acceleration figures..
I would have wanted a digital instrument cluster. Audi Q4 Enron still leads the way if you can wait for a while...
I choose Alcantara seat in the tropical island.
It is very breathe and cool.
cool man!
thank you Thomas for reviewing the Macan not the Macan S (I only can afford the entry level)
thanks, stick with us!
Can u show the night time view of the interior, with the light package
I second this: all reviews should include night-time views of interior and exterior, and night-time test-drive. It's a pity that Macan doesn't offer the infrared night-vision camera that you can order in the Cayenne and Panamera, as it's a very useful safety instrument that can help prevent accidents. It's also a pity that Macan doesn't offer a CD player option, which Cayenne and Panamera still do in MY2019.
i prefer alfa romeo stelvio !!!Very Nice review
cheers!
still prefer the rear lights of the first generation
Agree! this has a Ford /Lincoln look
Hi Thomas, are the 18inch tires good enough for the macanS? Should I upgrade? Thanks for the reply
Bigger wheels, better style but less comfort!
Hi, thanks for the reply. Should I upgrade to 19 inch, from 18inch? It is 2000dollars extra. Is there a big difference?
The 4 cyl sounds rough. I agree keep the options off
What color is it? Base white or Metallic white
Still need a key to start it?
I respect your aversion to leather, but for me Alcantara is not the way to go. Porsche should really think about offering more cloth options again as another alternative. Sport-Tex all the way.
I agree that the Sport Tex is really a great one, its just so ridiculous that e.g. in the Boxster/Cayman, they add animal skin instead of leatherette to the dashboard then when you pick a non-leather seating. I mean like wtf, who decided on that?!
Does the ACC come with InnoDrive, Traffic Jam Assist, Active Lane Keeping, etc. in the 2019 Macan? Could you demo/review those functions?
Active Lane Keeping yes
Autogefühl Thank you for the reply! Would really appreciate a demo of those driver assistance features. A few videos were available on such features for competitor brands, but never seen a running demo of Porsche.
I got some Assistance Systems info in the driving part, seen it full length? :)
Autogefühl Yes did see that (and appreciated it). But doesn't seem to cover the active lane keep or traffic jam assist unless I mussed something? Basically hands off the wheel and see how well the car drives itself and how long it takes before the system disengages itself due to lack of input, etc. Didn't want to mention other youtubers, but 1001cars had a few demo videos of these semi-auto selfdriving features for Audi and other brands.
Ah I see.
If i go for macan it would be only 2,9 turbo; otherwise q5 or sq5
Yes the Q5 actually has better tech etc. let’s hope there will be a RSQ5 soon
Lets hope the new sq5 will be a diesel again!
Purplefabian it is already. I think today is the press drive, bug journalists aren’t allowed to say anything until Wednesday
If this 2-litre EA888 has lag of whatever sort, as bad as even in the more powerful and lighter Golf R, it's one to avoid.
Yes it’s a Porsche but it’s a SUV, so the ideal engine would be a nice V6 *diesel* .. yes it’s sacrilege... but a 2.0 Porsche SUV might be for some too
danI43541 couldn’t agree more. I have 1st version Diesel I got last year and what a great car. Yes I miss the petrol exhaust engine sound so I got a cheap 987 boxster for summer fun and noise exhaust. Only £10k for a low mileage clean boxster 06 year. What a bargain
shelloiluk that’s a great two car garage. And honestly, would you really like to hoon your Macan on some twisty roads.. yes it’s capable of this but idk.. it’s more of a posh SUV, that handles like a sports car
I’m going to start doing TH-cam reviews on your clothing outfits.
hehhe feel free =)
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I have q5 2019. It’s very quick and smooth, but I reckon the bigger engine would be better. I have to say that it’s much smoother in the q5, but I would still prefer Porsche as it’s sportier to drive. I would get air suspension in Porsche. I noticed my vw golf was smoother than both. Possibly due to bigger tyres. If you want comfort get q5, it’s rated better than Porsche , but the ideal is air suspension with Porsche six cylinder. The entry Porsche isn’t nice, they make you pay for it. Sorry I mean it is nice but it’s a big step up when you get the better interior. The Porsche 4 cylinder feels faster than the q5, but there both quick, it’s because it’s a bit stiffer than q5 (mine is tfsi) so 0 - 100 in 6.5 secs. Entry Porsche is 6.7 seconds.
Thx for the report!
As always, dear Thomas, you came with another spectacular review for a car that I was waiting. Personally what do you choose between Macan and Macan S?
Best greetings and keep going on this way! :)
Thanks Alex! Macan S in Thomas blue with beige Alcantara seats would be my wish list =)
Hehe, you put a smile on my face. I couldn't agree you more. But what about Miami Blue? I find it also special. Can we consider it as another shade of Thomas Blue? :)))