Whenever I spar somebody that is smaller or not as strong/powerful(it doesn't matter if they're the opposite sex or not). I'll try to beat them with technique instead of physical traits like reach or power/strength. That way I'll sharpen up my technique and they'll still get a useful spar.
In fact, that would be the main objective in every sparring, despite the strenght of the other person. At least if your partner is not one of those idiots that think that every sparring/rolling/randori is a world championship match, in that case a little of overpower is allowed.
Great comment. I never use power with my sparring partners (regardless of their size or ability) and always try different technique especially stuff I know I'm bad at. Sparring is about improving, not winning.
@@willcardenas1579 Of course. I am talking about cases where there are few women in the gym. In my MMA gym there are barely any women (and they only do grappling) so they usually have to train with dudes. Personally, I am over 230lbs so I have never spared with a woman. I can see reasons why a guy would not be sure how to handle it though.
Not being rude, just questioning but wouldnt it be more beneficial skill wise for girls as well as guys to give people at different hights, builds ect as those different figures would have somewhat different technique or prefered patterns. For example larger and taller people may have strong foot work then those who are smaller that are quicker and more agile? Like yeah in a fight or sparing day your grouped on basis that show its less likely that you will get an aponet that different but if your apponet has to train with bigger builds cause thats all thats in their club they could have learnt stuff or picked up stratigies from them. Idk i just think a bit of variation in size and build helps everyone.
@@reneebatt2576 Maybe once in a while. The problem with big differences in strength and size is that the big dude will instinctively rely on his physical superiority and technique will suffer. The small dude will find it very difficult to work on his technique because suddenly he can't even reach his opponent or certain submissions don't work because of the huge strength difference. It has its usefulness if used sparingly (if you are short and want to work on the inside before a fight , for example) but I have generally found that sparing partners with similar physical attributes to mine force me to improve my technique the most. Just my observations though, I could be wrong. Oh and going light is a huge issue. What I have found to be light enough for my usual sparing partner would probably wreck a 50kg woman.
You should do a follow up video for girls on how not to spar guys. Lots of times I come up against girls that think because they are girls they can go as hard as they want because we are guys and don't expect to get hit back.
Jason Jillain this is 100 percent true. I train Muay Thai and there’s a female in the class who is an amateur MMA fighter. Even though she’s really experienced, I’ve seen her go very hard on some of the new guys in the class.
This is so fucking common i'm wondering why this video didnt come out first. I almost get the impression that the girl doesnt realize that she would get her ass kicked if the guy went as hard as shes going. Its like they think they're actually doing great vs a man twice their size.
As a girl who is relatively new to sparring, I have to say I was (and still am to a lesser extent) quite scared to spar guys, especially bigger guys. But every guy I've sparred with has been so nice and helpful to me. I do find that I get hit a lot but only lightly, I think this stands in line with my inexperience. I actually find it hard myself to find a balance because I'm often told to go 'all out' on bigger guys (and even though that's still probably 'ok' for them), I feel bad when they're only going light on me.
It's to teach you power so when you get more experience you know how to control your technique better I'm a guy and that's how my coach was when I was a white belt
The way I see it, you go to the level of your partner. I personally always have work the next day. Male or female, I'm there to learn as much as possible yet still be able to work/train the next day. I can't do that with a ego. I leave that at the door. With that said, I treat females with the same respect I do males. Both have the ability to fuck me up and I treat them as such.
I usually don't like sparring girls because it is so hard to find that balance. I was in a kickboxing class with a very rambunctious girl who would complain that guys were going to soft and then in the same practice complain that guys were going too hard but she was the type of training partner that would go 99% all the time
Same. I had a female coach who would go almost 100% with spinning back fists and kicks. She'll complain you aren't hitting hard and proceed to turn it up on the guys. Then when a guy hits her back hard the whole gym gets mad...
Yeah you’re right about finding the balance. I just go soft every time, I’d rather her complain about me going too easy than fucking her up, I’d feel so bad
Umm... communicate?! Ask each other how hard you want to go today. Keep checking in. It’s good practice to observe and develop awareness of how your sparring partner is going. I’ve seen a (retired) world champion man sparr women without hurting them. It was not ‘beneath’ him! He had amazing control of his body and his ego. If you’re sparring someone smaller or less experienced, use it as an opportunity to practice self control.
When someone is exploiting your weakness in sparing, like mentioned teeping, do not wait for other person to tell you what to do. Ask. Men usually do not advise women for very simple reason, women very often react very negative or just ignore advice. And second, when I am successful continuously with some attack, and you don't react, for me it means you do not care. I hope it helped.
Sam that’s not at all what I was saying. This was more a pet peeve than anything. It’s cool when people see you struggling and can offer tips to help you out, get around the strike. I don’t see how anyone can grow by the attacker continuously using the same strike - which if it’s always landing that’s great in a fight but not really beneficial in three rounds of sparring. Obviously, every sparring session is a learning experience and my goal is take something from every session to grow and get better.
@@Will67898 that sounds fair. But that apply to all, men and women too. Let's hope we can go back to gyms to do some sparings as soon as possible to try it out :)
@@muaythaimami I think part of what sam is trying to say revolves around personal responsibility. In live rounds, if something is working, keep doing it. Exploiting a weakness is part of fighting. (DC - Stipe2 round 5) My personal experience has been not to advice girls that are not my personal students. That often respond negatively. It should be that person's responsibility to ask for help.
Prime Martial Arts Academy I understand. I just don’t appreciate being called dumb. 🙃 I think not being able to take advice isn’t a gender thing but how far the person has met themselves. I fucking love advice because it helps me grow and get better. I often feel most frustrated when I feel I don’t know what I could have done to get better during that session. Where I agree self study and research afterwards is ones personal responsibility. 🙏🏽✨ Nothing but love here we are all growing on this journey together.
Love when he gives advice on etiquette, my coaches never really had these kinds of conversations with me, I had to learn the hard way and that f$?@ing sucked.
Not so much about less competitive, cuz that's actually good. However I'll give you. Major point on technique. I'm a big guy, and it's always good for me do restraint my power while maintaining my technique, speed and agility. It also helped with my guard, as I had the nasty habit of lowering when there was some hint of superiority towards my adversary, and so, I received a lot of wake up calls.
I never give advice when I'm sparring a woman because they might feel like I undermine them. Regardless of gender, when I spar someone better then me and they get me with the same move they'll keep doing it showing me that I better come up with something to counter it or avoid it. I appreciate that. Theyre showing me the holes I have. If I don't figure something out I either ask them after sparring what to do and/or practice it on other people and see what they do to avoid it. If anybody thats not as experienced as me keeps getting caught with the same move then its showing they need to work on it. I think the first women that shared her views had this winning-losing mentality that projected on her sparring partner. Maybe he was showing her that she needs to work on her teep defense 🤷♂️
The best way for all of us to learn is by listening to the good advices from people who know better than us. If someone doesn't like to take advice, then in my opinion they are not going to improve cause of their ego. I personally appreciate when guys are giving me advice on how to get better. So don't be afraid to give girls advice, those who want to improve are going to appreciate you.
Yo I was waiting for you to get teeped off that ledge onto the rocks. Couldn't you have pulled the mats forward a little bit? And yeah, for the most part I agree, just communication and respect between partners is essential, intensity depends on size disparity and whether they're training for a fight. Honestly could apply that regardless of gender tbh.
ive been training for about 9 months now and ive always been scared to spar with the guys. ive missed so many sparring days because i just assume no one wants to spar with a girl. my male friend told me during a sparring day once that the guys were afraid to hit me in the tits. im glad there are men out there that do understand i want to spar and im ok with getting hurt, and thats it is OK to accidentally hit my boob!!
i am not scared and enjoy technical sparring with anyone (i am a guy). though tbh, i have had a few unpleasant talks about accidental boob touches and it was very annoying and kinda offensive to me. honestly, touching boobs with boxing gloves isnt very exciting and i am not there to touch girls inappropriately. i get that that also happens, though.
@@potatoman50009 you mean girls have gotten upset that you accidentally hit a boob during a sparring session? thats pretty dumb. like its a fight, youre making contact with a persons whole body. some guys are afraid of accidentally invading my space like that though, i think its because my boobs are annoyingly *there* if you know what i mean. i just wanna get better at fighting, just like everyone else.
Amazing. So beautiful. Cant wait for my gym to reopen. Sparring is sparring no matter who your fighting. Simple rule. IF opponent is weaker or less skilled You dedicate this session to improve them,work on there weak spots. Share your knowledge and skill. Be patient. Enjoy every strike. Enjoy life .
In my expierience girl on girl sometimes goes beyond sparring .. and the to hard or to soft is always a fine line not all fighters man or woman can read..the more precise and controled your technique is even full speed without leaving your partner stunned.... the harder it will be when out in the ring ..nice vid .. think also a 1st .. 👍
I've been training for 6 months now (karate) most of the women in my class are black belts. I haven't had a chance to spar with any of them yet, but I'd feel so bad if I accidentally hurt one of them.
i dont care which sex i spar with, but there is one peculiar problem that seems to only occur when i spar girls, especially smaller built girls (i am a tall, kinda lanky guy): They hit me with everything but the kitchen sink, and when i return with anything but light touches, they get pissed off. Like, seriously, you just hit me with a knee that made me collapse for a minute straight, but if i hit you with a stiff jab you start complaining... i am a big believer in light sparring, but that goes for both people involved.
Hair vs no hair, love it! 😂 when sparring or rolling I usually wait til the end to help an opponent who couldn't overcome something I was doing but I'm too prideful to ask for help 😔 I just take the lump and keep trucking
After over 15 yrs of muay thai I still watch this video every so often and the *f** you to trying a technique to feel superior" comment makes my whole week!!
C'mon guys, I undestand you go light and cautious, but that setup over the rocks is dangerous! Put some ropes or whatever before anyone gets hurt! On a positive note, Ashlee is an absolute joy to watch; looks like she's really having fun every moment of that sparring)
we need a "how NOT to spar AS a girl" as well! i'm 6'2 and 80kg and i sparred a girl in my gym on the weekend. we were doing "tik-tak" aka light sparring with our hands half way out of our gloves. she is like 5'7 and probably 40-50kg. i have like 5 months of experience and i know she has like 5 years. i was going super light but she was pretty much giving me everything she could. it wasn't really an issue cos of the weight difference but it just felt disrespectful especially with the experience difference... her throwing that hard meant she could be a lot faster. if i went at that speed i'd knock her over so i obviously couldn't do that
As a female who is not competing, I appreciate working technical aspects of the art, not getting beat senseless in sparring. They may see flaws/openings that I need to work on and vice versa. That said, as you give...so shall you receive ;)
I think it's just a matter of sparring similarly to how Thais actually fight - start light and flow together and get your rhythm. Pick up the tempo and striking power in accordance to your partner's tempo and power. If they are carrying themselves like they're super new, "beat" them with technique and continue to go light. If they're advanced and ramping up, do so as well. It's not rocket surgery.
Also this raises a whole double standard issue the whole video the women are claiming to be equal in fighting skill and strength while also saying there weaker so you should go easier I think you should spar a women the same as a man and imma get hate for that but I strongly stand by that
Nah man you are right, just scale it the same as you would a man. Scale it back if they are obviously weaker or less skilled. I'm not sure why gender comes into it. Same goes for the whole "don't do that move I can't defend" story. If I couldn't defend a technique I'd find it patronising for someone to either stop doing it or (even worse) stop sparring to explain something to me (unless there is a given big skill difference, like they or an instructor etc). It's down to me to ask them afterwards about the technique I couldn't defend, not them.
Ottepeg89 the straight facts and the point of sparring is to learn that’s why I say go a little harder obviously don’t kill your opponent but I feel like it also helps to give females confidence to know that even when fighting a different gender they’re of higher or equal skill in combat rather than always having a man or whoever scale down
This is a good video, I sparred today and unintentionally went a bit hard, learnt that it’s important to read how your partner is reacting as an indicator if you should power down. This video helps me understand what to look out for and take into consideration
I generally let the opponent dictate how hard they wanna spar, Im usually cool either way, the only caveat to that is if they are new to sparring, fairly often someone who is inexperienced will throw too hard (I've never gotten to bottom of why this is, I'm guessing its nerves, its something I didn't do as a beginner so I really don't know) in these cases I slow them down and demonstrate how to spar light. When I spar a girl for the first time I start super light and let them dictate. God I miss sparring right now haha. P.S. About "alerting people to their weaknesses", that is very dependent on the person and their skill level in relation to yours, and their mindset, I generally only point out one glaring thing at a time if I do give advice, a lotta students don't appreciate "constructive criticism" unless it comes from an instructor, offering advice is a real "feel thing" and has lots of variables imo
Pleasantly surprise, there are very few offensive or genuinly dumb comments. It is surely annoying to spar with a weaker and more fragile opponent, but there are many guys in the gym who respect the hard work and tremendous effort women and girls are putting to get good in a sport that requires muscle, speed and bone density, which are harder to obtain if you are female. Respect to these guys who spar and help despite the annoyance. If not anything more girls should join the family of martial artists and fighters, entirely for a practical perspective. I am in an age in which we are plannin a child, no doubt i will sign him or her to some form of practical martial arts as soon as possible, especially if it is a girl. Needless to say there are some bad people out there and teenage girls are so naive and honestly dumb sometimes. Self defence classes will be a must surely.
kermit the hermit I agree and that's why I tend to do it. As long as I'm not hurting anyone (and I'm not) I think it's a great opportunity for them to at least become aware of a vulnerability they have even if it's annoying. Some of my favourite moments in sparing have been when I exploit something and literally just touch them with what could have been a clean powerful shot and they're smart enough to realize what happened. Mutual respect and a lesson without a headache or bloody nose. I've been on the receiving end of some unnecessary damage (when I was new to kickboxing) and it really sucked. Completely dropped and concussed from a headkick which kinda changed me in some ways. I'm less naive now (about the questionable people you'll run into at times) and I really try to be respectful of people I train with because I don't want to put someone through what happened to me.
If you're not a dick you can tell them WHY you catch them with the same move ;-) Like: "you telegraph your jab too much" or "dont drop your hands after punching" etc.
Unless you're a complete beginner everyone should know how to spar light, it's really not that difficult. The problem is a lot of people need to feed their ego and show that they are "better" then you and are a badass. The real baddasses know they are badass and don't need to prove it in a sparring session.
I am female. I have had fights. I prefer to save damage to the head and face for an actual fight. I don't want to risk injury in training. It is scientifically shown the power to size ratio is different for Man to woman at the same weight. SO don't use full power against someone lighter. And excellent point about respecting technique differences too.
First off - what a beautiful location! I encourage the female karateka in my dojo to have zero tolerance for guys at seminars acting like idiots - there have been a few that have learnt their lesson the hard way ....
Regardless of gender, you just gotta communicate with your sparring partner what level of force is beneficial for both of you. It's just as easy as asking. I hate it when big guys rely on their added power and size to pummel a smaller opponent, but it's also bothersome when your opponent is overly cautious and doesn't trust you to speak up if he goes too hard. My least favorite thing though is when I land a solid hit on a guy who ends up taking it to his ego and retaliates by leveraging their size and strength against me. You're both there to help each other out, and in an actual fight, you would be paired up with someone your size anyways. Also, Liz and Ashley are women* not girls. I know it's colloquial, but I just wanted to point out how often women are infantilized. Appreciate the content, Sean!
Honestly if you cant get past the teep then he should do it so you can get better at getting past the teep sparring is practice its not to win if he teeps you alot and you cant do anything about it then everytime your sparring your trying to focus on that teep or another example atleast for me is being scared of punches so when i would spar i would keep looking forward and just work on moving forward without flinching or looking away
Yeah I agree completely, although with anyone you should at least offer a tip on how cause not everyone can think of how to change something in a stressful situation like she said. Then they can go back into it. Which helps both as teaching something consolidates learning making each of the paticipants better in the long run. At least from my point of view. And same with the fear of punches If its okay with you can I try your strategy as i flinch away and close my eyes unless Im consciously trying not to which is when other things go wrong?
@@reneebatt2576 yeah agreed,but i believe she knows how to get passed it she just needs to practice it more.Just cause you know how to slip and roll doesn't mean you will be successful doing it if you havent practised it in sparring.
@@willcardenas1579 yeah true I just took it from the perspective in the example she mentioned, sometimes in fights at least of me I can have blanks on what to do but practice would probs help that too
I've been taking Muay Thai for about 10 months and it's nice to see the perspective of men sparing with women in the gym. I didn't know you guys were dealing with all that. (Being really big and not knowing how to find your balalnce with a small woman, not feeling comfortable with hitting women in the face, dealing with women using too much power, but them not being able to take yours.) I just thought the guys were being dicks to me by not selectingme as a partner. Tonight I did get a more experienced guy tell me I am using too much power. I will try and be more considerate to my male counterparts. Many if them are very kind and willing to help.
@@evanmildrum897 nah 50% is pretty appropriate for face/head shot when sparring a female most people go 70%-80% with face/head shots when sparring same gender
@@reneebatt2576 just got to know the people in my gym and worked out what sort of power to use with each person. Judge your partners ability and measure against your own, naturally from there you just spar without thinking no apologies no injuries 👌 Edit: this works providing your partner isnt an asshole
I hate girls talking like "hey you can bring it on, don't go light on me because I'm a girl" I mean chill out, girl, I don't go light on you because you're a girl but because it's light sparring.
In my opinion you can hit as hard as they hit you unless they are a beginner and still cant control their punches constantly. As a girl I personally see it as you should spar a girl the same way you would spar a guy at that level,, gender doesnt have anything to do with it, I personally would be offended if i was treated any differently just because of my gender. For both males and females if you dont want to be hit too hard or find that your getting hit too hard its you as an individual's responsibility to speak up, if not take it as it comes and think of it as conditioning.Have you seen some girls spar tho? We can go rough as heck and hit each other hard, from personal experience the girls at our club will spar at a more intense level( i cant think of the exact word I'm thinking of but yeah if you think of it let me know) then some of the guys in the same colour or level as us, so yeah we can take a hit .Also my last point if you want to tell me that im not doing something right like dropping my guard or if you have a tip go ahead and tell me but expect if I notice anything that's off or you could be doing differently Ill also tell you. Thats just my personal oppion and everyones different.
In tkd we always spar with the opposite sex. It teaches control on the males part and also teaches the female how to fight a potentially bigger and stronger opponent. It also forms a tighter more cohesive bond amongst the class.
I started training in November and really made big improvements in just 3-4 months before the lockdown. Sadly we're often just 2-3 girls, sometimes I'm even alone with the guys. Most of them don't take me serious at all 🙄 It annoys me so much that I will go to another gym as soon as I'm out of my contract
Muffinpurpergurk that's such a pity 😔 I'm lucky enough to train with guys who actually want to help me improve and get better! You should definitely look into other gyms.
@@friskylilfillly Yeah, sadly you only get to know the team after you are already signed up for several months 🙄 And we only do partner drills or sparring, no heavy bag training. The coaches are upset that I'm always training with the same 1-2 people but whenever I ask the other guys they already have their partners 🙄 (Btw, are you an equestrian as well? Love it 😊 muay thai actually helped me improve my riding a lot)
Muffinpurpergurk yeah very true. aw that’s a pity, heavy bag training can be really great and helpful for improving technique! Aw that’s unfair, it’s hardly your fault! I read a lot of the reviews for my gym before going and a lot of them talked about the great atmosphere and good coaches, and they were definitely right! Yeah I am 😊 or I used to be, I don’t ride anymore but I can totally see how it would help, my mobility and strength has improved so much!
I'd like to spar more of the girls at my gym since they go there 3-4 times a week. They're much more experienced than i am since im still new, plus they've been training there for a few years. I get to spar one girl everytime tho, and im thankfull for that since we're nearly the same height and body weight 🤘 And she kicks my butt everytime. (Literally kicking my butt, and also good with her skill 😂) The other girls are much shorter than me which is completely understandable, but fighting against ppl of different heights is also good training. I've noticed when the shorter person gets closer to us, us tall ppl freak out and start to run off. We arent used to someone actually getting past our arm/leg reach. I believe this helps us tall folks know what to do when someone else is too close to us, and that it also helps build confidence in the shorter person to not be afraid of arm/leg length. (Whether its male or female) And as a result of sparring shorter ppl, instead of running away, i grapple them. (Plus i've noticed no one goes for grappling during sparring, so i wanted to go for some grabs so that what we've learned to do with grappling doesnt get forgotten) (Plus sparring all the new guys gets boring if all the guys have their partners pre-chosen before class starts 🤪 Not to sound mean or anything, but i cant improve too much if im sparring with "new-new" members that back away after every jab or kick)
I train karate shotokan combined with goju ryu. You are really helping me out becouse I don't spar with girls very often and when I do I try not to hit them but to give them a chance to hit me and then my goal is to avoid it by using my footwork. Btw those girls what am I talking about are 15/20 cm shoter than me sooo thank you.
I'm a smaller guy. 5'6" and lean. I have some of the same issues. Often time when sparring and in the real world people often treat me like I'm fragile or are super aggressive because for some reason I'm supposed to be able to take it. At the same time when sparring your opponent should be sure that they're going at the right speed and strength that allows you to feel comfortable while learning. Otherwise it completely defeats the purpose of sparring
It was weird the first few times sparring with girls not gonna lie. But you get used to it. The only thing to really take into consideration is weight. Being in control of power is key. Hit fast is always important and in terms of power I always start off light and slowly bring it up until I think any harder would hurt. Always good to read your opponents body language
Just hit as hard as she hits you she could be trying to tell you that you can hit harder. Or if shes new she might not be able to control how hard the punches are?
Great video thx. I feel like you should treat people based on weight classes and experience level. Most girls are 50lb lighter than me so I go a bit lighter like I would for a guy 50lb smaller.
It depends on how strong you are , you cant hit anyone with any power if your really strong and it'll make it seem like your not learning because you cant use any speed without dropping someone. If youre strong spar at a boxing gym or a point fighting system for sparring partner
If I'm sparring someone weaker, which can be the case with a lady, I have three pretend rules: Maintain a good work rate. If I hurt them, they'll die. If they land anything, I'll die. It means you don't do that awful "patronising" sparring, where you ride what they throw and just stick a limb out every now and then. Also forces you to hold your ground with volume not power, to find angles rather than clubbing through, and to defend like a mutha! And it keeps everyone safe. Honestly, it sometimes feels like the most rewarding sparring I ever did.
You should always spar respectfully regardless of gender. And spar to learn/teach not to win. First 30 seconds is a good time to feel each other out and find that power level you are both comfortable with. I'm a big guy but I've had great sparring sessions with kick ass females literally less than half my size. It all works as long as you are not distracted and genuinely trying to improve your skill. Everyone has something to offer you in sparring if you are paying attention.
Tbh, I feel like the thing liz said about the guy just teeping is stupid. You spar to practice your combos/moves and the fact that the guy who she was sparring with kept teeping doesn'r in anyway translate to him being an asshole, although I am saying this without knowing what actually happened so feel free to correct me. All in all it just seems that she didn't know how to defend against a teep and got frustrated about it.
I can not say how you do it exactly regarding muay thai or whatnot but when it comes to boxing .... stand right in front of a heavy bag ... give it a mighty push in preferred direction and bob and weave and roll with the flow and shadow box close to it ... keep the right distance as if you were clinching with the guy, move enough yet not too much. Your shadow boxing should also reflect that .. keep your guard tight, move your head and throw short punches and combos and cover up. Hope this helps, gl
I think sparrying should be a game of strategy (only on preparation to a fight should you have a "fight spar" with someone the same weight as you) you get chopped if you didnt move the right way and you chop on the one who did the wrong move, always at 50 percent strength/teach, close to a 100 percent speed and 0 percent ego.
3:56 On that platform, the defeated faces the rocks below! (Unless that's some really good green screen FX.) And you guys don't wear mouth guards? Agreed upon beforehand, no face contact?
I’ve been doing bjj for almost a year now but have been thinking of adding Muay thai. Sounds like similar challenges women face with men in bjj. Sometimes I really can’t train with men that are too big. Finding the balance of how hard to go is really tough. I am nervous to try Muay Thai but I think it would help my bjj and overall health.
Fight as hard as you can no matter spar or fight not only will it benefit you more but your partner too if you think women are more prone to getting hurt help them become stronger
I'm a beginner the place I go to is a quiet little place that isn't well known one day before class I was hitting the bag and a kid that never joins class was there and asked if I wanted to spar I said yes and he hit me as hard has he could and only to the body it wasn't helpful at all but I did end up getting a cup shot by accident
This was great and seeing the women spar.. I have to be honest I S)+&* at Sparring . I do not do enough. I have to agree that I don’t mind getting advice from partners and all the guys and women I spar with we are there to help each other. I am absolutely not even close to the caliber of people responding to this video.. (i am old lol) plus i have to work the next morning so we spar fairly lightly . But I just love the martial arts and I love learning. I particularly find your videos all very interesting.. this was a great video... thank you. ( p.s. love your training area )
I am in a bit of a similar position. I started Kyokushin Karate a year ago, at the young and tender age of 48 ;). We spar at almost every training session. And I bruise really easy. So I am always torn between asking the guys (I'm usually the only woman there) to go light on me and just sucking it up and give them as good as I've got (which usually isn't very good). I sometimes crawl into bed after training and cry a little bit, because I feel totally weak and useless, questioning why on earth I am doing this, but then I am always back on the mat two days later, because there really is no place I'd rather be. And that has become my strength. I don't have to be better than the twenty something testosterone bundles I train with. I probably never can be. But I can be better than I was yesterday. And that's enough.
I find it is best to just not bother, the very definition of a lose-lose situation. You go light, the girl just beats on you with no regard for consequence. You go harder, you are the guy who bullies women. Then there is that awkward moment when you teep their tit.
I mean, most of these tips on "how NOT to Spar" apply to anyone with a weight, skill, stature gap. Just because you have a dick or she has a vagine, that alone shouldn't be the primary determinant. Here are the tips: be kind, be helpful, seek mutual growth.
Whenever I spar somebody that is smaller or not as strong/powerful(it doesn't matter if they're the opposite sex or not). I'll try to beat them with technique instead of physical traits like reach or power/strength. That way I'll sharpen up my technique and they'll still get a useful spar.
Also as a general rule, just go light. There's no need to knock each other's head off.
That sounds like a great idea
In fact, that would be the main objective in every sparring, despite the strenght of the other person. At least if your partner is not one of those idiots that think that every sparring/rolling/randori is a world championship match, in that case a little of overpower is allowed.
Great comment. I never use power with my sparring partners (regardless of their size or ability) and always try different technique especially stuff I know I'm bad at. Sparring is about improving, not winning.
Speed is a physical trait, so how do you modulate your speed so it is in line with theirs?
two things I got from this video:
1. Ashlee has very smooth movement
2. not having rails around the platform gives me anxiety attack
we're pros don't worry 🤣
If you're sparring correctly gender shouldn't be an issue
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Absolutely agree
That part
Thank you. Simple as that.
Tbh sparing should be light anyway most of the times. That being said, I think it's best for the women to spar with the smaller dudes.
Or with other women
@@willcardenas1579 Of course. I am talking about cases where there are few women in the gym. In my MMA gym there are barely any women (and they only do grappling) so they usually have to train with dudes. Personally, I am over 230lbs so I have never spared with a woman. I can see reasons why a guy would not be sure how to handle it though.
Yeah, but also because of differences in height.
Not being rude, just questioning but wouldnt it be more beneficial skill wise for girls as well as guys to give people at different hights, builds ect as those different figures would have somewhat different technique or prefered patterns. For example larger and taller people may have strong foot work then those who are smaller that are quicker and more agile? Like yeah in a fight or sparing day your grouped on basis that show its less likely that you will get an aponet that different but if your apponet has to train with bigger builds cause thats all thats in their club they could have learnt stuff or picked up stratigies from them. Idk i just think a bit of variation in size and build helps everyone.
@@reneebatt2576 Maybe once in a while. The problem with big differences in strength and size is that the big dude will instinctively rely on his physical superiority and technique will suffer. The small dude will find it very difficult to work on his technique because suddenly he can't even reach his opponent or certain submissions don't work because of the huge strength difference. It has its usefulness if used sparingly (if you are short and want to work on the inside before a fight , for example) but I have generally found that sparing partners with similar physical attributes to mine force me to improve my technique the most. Just my observations though, I could be wrong. Oh and going light is a huge issue. What I have found to be light enough for my usual sparing partner would probably wreck a 50kg woman.
You should do a follow up video for girls on how not to spar guys. Lots of times I come up against girls that think because they are girls they can go as hard as they want because we are guys and don't expect to get hit back.
Jason Jillain this is 100 percent true.
I train Muay Thai and there’s a female in the class who is an amateur MMA fighter. Even though she’s really experienced, I’ve seen her go very hard on some of the new guys in the class.
So true, I've known a phew of this girls, it's not ok, idk why they do that.
Agreed.
This is so fucking common i'm wondering why this video didnt come out first. I almost get the impression that the girl doesnt realize that she would get her ass kicked if the guy went as hard as shes going. Its like they think they're actually doing great vs a man twice their size.
Can the problem be resolved with a friendly chat with her? :-)
As a girl who is relatively new to sparring, I have to say I was (and still am to a lesser extent) quite scared to spar guys, especially bigger guys. But every guy I've sparred with has been so nice and helpful to me. I do find that I get hit a lot but only lightly, I think this stands in line with my inexperience. I actually find it hard myself to find a balance because I'm often told to go 'all out' on bigger guys (and even though that's still probably 'ok' for them), I feel bad when they're only going light on me.
It's to teach you power so when you get more experience you know how to control your technique better I'm a guy and that's how my coach was when I was a white belt
you've got some good sparring partners! 🙏🙏🙏
Step 1: think you should go pretty light on girl
Step 2: Get lit up by said Girl
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@B B it's a double standard when the women go hard its empowering but when the men go hard it's there ego
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awesome video, love your home set up wow!
thanks bro 👊👊👊
The way I see it, you go to the level of your partner. I personally always have work the next day. Male or female, I'm there to learn as much as possible yet still be able to work/train the next day. I can't do that with a ego. I leave that at the door. With that said, I treat females with the same respect I do males. Both have the ability to fuck me up and I treat them as such.
exactly 🙏🙏🙏
I destroy all opponent man,woman,baby all will be defeated
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I usually don't like sparring girls because it is so hard to find that balance. I was in a kickboxing class with a very rambunctious girl who would complain that guys were going to soft and then in the same practice complain that guys were going too hard but she was the type of training partner that would go 99% all the time
Same. I had a female coach who would go almost 100% with spinning back fists and kicks. She'll complain you aren't hitting hard and proceed to turn it up on the guys. Then when a guy hits her back hard the whole gym gets mad...
Yeah you’re right about finding the balance. I just go soft every time, I’d rather her complain about me going too easy than fucking her up, I’d feel so bad
Umm... communicate?! Ask each other how hard you want to go today. Keep checking in. It’s good practice to observe and develop awareness of how your sparring partner is going. I’ve seen a (retired) world champion man sparr women without hurting them. It was not ‘beneath’ him! He had amazing control of his body and his ego. If you’re sparring someone smaller or less experienced, use it as an opportunity to practice self control.
that's right, all about communication!
When someone is exploiting your weakness in sparing, like mentioned teeping, do not wait for other person to tell you what to do. Ask. Men usually do not advise women for very simple reason, women very often react very negative or just ignore advice. And second, when I am successful continuously with some attack, and you don't react, for me it means you do not care. I hope it helped.
You can of course do the teep (or something else) a bit slower or more recognizable. So your partner has time to react.
Sam that’s not at all what I was saying. This was more a pet peeve than anything. It’s cool when people see you struggling and can offer tips to help you out, get around the strike. I don’t see how anyone can grow by the attacker continuously using the same strike - which if it’s always landing that’s great in a fight but not really beneficial in three rounds of sparring.
Obviously, every sparring session is a learning experience and my goal is take something from every session to grow and get better.
@@Will67898 that sounds fair. But that apply to all, men and women too. Let's hope we can go back to gyms to do some sparings as soon as possible to try it out :)
@@muaythaimami I think part of what sam is trying to say revolves around personal responsibility.
In live rounds, if something is working, keep doing it. Exploiting a weakness is part of fighting. (DC - Stipe2 round 5)
My personal experience has been not to advice girls that are not my personal students. That often respond negatively. It should be that person's responsibility to ask for help.
Prime Martial Arts Academy I understand. I just don’t appreciate being called dumb. 🙃 I think not being able to take advice isn’t a gender thing but how far the person has met themselves. I fucking love advice because it helps me grow and get better. I often feel most frustrated when I feel I don’t know what I could have done to get better during that session. Where I agree self study and research afterwards is ones personal responsibility. 🙏🏽✨
Nothing but love here we are all growing on this journey together.
Equal rights... And lefts...lol jk jk.
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Love when he gives advice on etiquette, my coaches never really had these kinds of conversations with me, I had to learn the hard way and that f$?@ing sucked.
this stuff is VERY important to a gym
In the gym every body is equal but I must say some girls go super hard
I enjoy sparring girls, it's often much more technical and less competitive
Yeeeeeesssss
Haha, well. Not with our girls. I experienced girls sparring just as hard and untechnical as men. It's more about experience rather then gender ;D
@@Will67898 i hate when people spar hard
Simp
Not so much about less competitive, cuz that's actually good. However I'll give you. Major point on technique. I'm a big guy, and it's always good for me do restraint my power while maintaining my technique, speed and agility.
It also helped with my guard, as I had the nasty habit of lowering when there was some hint of superiority towards my adversary, and so, I received a lot of wake up calls.
I just spar I don't rlly care who it is. I like to scale my intensity and type of sparring to the person I'm sparring with
I never give advice when I'm sparring a woman because they might feel like I undermine them. Regardless of gender, when I spar someone better then me and they get me with the same move they'll keep doing it showing me that I better come up with something to counter it or avoid it. I appreciate that. Theyre showing me the holes I have. If I don't figure something out I either ask them after sparring what to do and/or practice it on other people and see what they do to avoid it.
If anybody thats not as experienced as me keeps getting caught with the same move then its showing they need to work on it. I think the first women that shared her views had this winning-losing mentality that projected on her sparring partner. Maybe he was showing her that she needs to work on her teep defense 🤷♂️
my thoughts exactly
The best way for all of us to learn is by listening to the good advices from people who know better than us. If someone doesn't like to take advice, then in my opinion they are not going to improve cause of their ego. I personally appreciate when guys are giving me advice on how to get better. So don't be afraid to give girls advice, those who want to improve are going to appreciate you.
Yo I was waiting for you to get teeped off that ledge onto the rocks. Couldn't you have pulled the mats forward a little bit? And yeah, for the most part I agree, just communication and respect between partners is essential, intensity depends on size disparity and whether they're training for a fight. Honestly could apply that regardless of gender tbh.
yea maybe we should've 🤣🤣🤣
ive been training for about 9 months now and ive always been scared to spar with the guys. ive missed so many sparring days because i just assume no one wants to spar with a girl. my male friend told me during a sparring day once that the guys were afraid to hit me in the tits. im glad there are men out there that do understand i want to spar and im ok with getting hurt, and thats it is OK to accidentally hit my boob!!
i am not scared and enjoy technical sparring with anyone (i am a guy). though tbh, i have had a few unpleasant talks about accidental boob touches and it was very annoying and kinda offensive to me. honestly, touching boobs with boxing gloves isnt very exciting and i am not there to touch girls inappropriately. i get that that also happens, though.
@@potatoman50009 you mean girls have gotten upset that you accidentally hit a boob during a sparring session? thats pretty dumb. like its a fight, youre making contact with a persons whole body. some guys are afraid of accidentally invading my space like that though, i think its because my boobs are annoyingly *there* if you know what i mean. i just wanna get better at fighting, just like everyone else.
Weight and skill level are the things that I care for. Good video!
Totally agree!
Amazing. So beautiful. Cant wait for my gym to reopen. Sparring is sparring no matter who your fighting. Simple rule. IF opponent is weaker or less skilled You dedicate this session to improve them,work on there weak spots. Share your knowledge and skill. Be patient. Enjoy every strike. Enjoy life .
In my expierience girl on girl sometimes goes beyond sparring .. and the to hard or to soft is always a fine line not all fighters man or woman can read..the more precise and controled your technique is even full speed without leaving your partner stunned.... the harder it will be when out in the ring ..nice vid .. think also a 1st .. 👍
I've been training for 6 months now (karate) most of the women in my class are black belts. I haven't had a chance to spar with any of them yet, but I'd feel so bad if I accidentally hurt one of them.
You should be more worried about them hurting you....
That outside spot where u guys are sparring is giving me anxiety 😂😂 like what if I lost balance and fell it’s over
yea 🤣🤣🤣
i dont care which sex i spar with, but there is one peculiar problem that seems to only occur when i spar girls, especially smaller built girls (i am a tall, kinda lanky guy): They hit me with everything but the kitchen sink, and when i return with anything but light touches, they get pissed off. Like, seriously, you just hit me with a knee that made me collapse for a minute straight, but if i hit you with a stiff jab you start complaining... i am a big believer in light sparring, but that goes for both people involved.
Hair vs no hair, love it! 😂 when sparring or rolling I usually wait til the end to help an opponent who couldn't overcome something I was doing but I'm too prideful to ask for help 😔 I just take the lump and keep trucking
Always trying to work on my clinch if sparring a girl 😉
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After over 15 yrs of muay thai I still watch this video every so often and the *f** you to trying a technique to feel superior" comment makes my whole week!!
C'mon guys, I undestand you go light and cautious, but that setup over the rocks is dangerous! Put some ropes or whatever before anyone gets hurt!
On a positive note, Ashlee is an absolute joy to watch; looks like she's really having fun every moment of that sparring)
For sure someone has been teeped into the rocks
That still scares me 😂 There should be some protection right there
THIS IS SPARTA!
@@rottennnnbbbb *MUAY THAI
That's intentional. Victory or death.
I believe in equality 😎
I just flow in sparing.
And add power based off the other person's level
When sparring a girl ALWAYS go 100% full power...show em you're a MAN! 😂
Too right.
😂😂😂
And when you knock them down, do the pose Muhammad Ali did after he bear up Sonny Liston.
we need a "how NOT to spar AS a girl" as well!
i'm 6'2 and 80kg and i sparred a girl in my gym on the weekend. we were doing "tik-tak" aka light sparring with our hands half way out of our gloves. she is like 5'7 and probably 40-50kg.
i have like 5 months of experience and i know she has like 5 years.
i was going super light but she was pretty much giving me everything she could. it wasn't really an issue cos of the weight difference but it just felt disrespectful especially with the experience difference... her throwing that hard meant she could be a lot faster. if i went at that speed i'd knock her over so i obviously couldn't do that
As a female who is not competing, I appreciate working technical aspects of the art, not getting beat senseless in sparring. They may see flaws/openings that I need to work on and vice versa. That said, as you give...so shall you receive ;)
I think it's just a matter of sparring similarly to how Thais actually fight - start light and flow together and get your rhythm. Pick up the tempo and striking power in accordance to your partner's tempo and power. If they are carrying themselves like they're super new, "beat" them with technique and continue to go light. If they're advanced and ramping up, do so as well. It's not rocket surgery.
Good work ladies!! LOL that intro was gold!!
Glad you liked it!!
Also this raises a whole double standard issue the whole video the women are claiming to be equal in fighting skill and strength while also saying there weaker so you should go easier I think you should spar a women the same as a man and imma get hate for that but I strongly stand by that
Nah man you are right, just scale it the same as you would a man. Scale it back if they are obviously weaker or less skilled. I'm not sure why gender comes into it. Same goes for the whole "don't do that move I can't defend" story. If I couldn't defend a technique I'd find it patronising for someone to either stop doing it or (even worse) stop sparring to explain something to me (unless there is a given big skill difference, like they or an instructor etc). It's down to me to ask them afterwards about the technique I couldn't defend, not them.
Ottepeg89 the straight facts and the point of sparring is to learn that’s why I say go a little harder obviously don’t kill your opponent but I feel like it also helps to give females confidence to know that even when fighting a different gender they’re of higher or equal skill in combat rather than always having a man or whoever scale down
This is a good video, I sparred today and unintentionally went a bit hard, learnt that it’s important to read how your partner is reacting as an indicator if you should power down. This video helps me understand what to look out for and take into consideration
Great video! But I was on edge the whole time waiting for someone to get teeped into those rocks!😱
I generally let the opponent dictate how hard they wanna spar, Im usually cool either way, the only caveat to that is if they are new to sparring, fairly often someone who is inexperienced will throw too hard (I've never gotten to bottom of why this is, I'm guessing its nerves, its something I didn't do as a beginner so I really don't know) in these cases I slow them down and demonstrate how to spar light. When I spar a girl for the first time I start super light and let them dictate. God I miss sparring right now haha. P.S. About "alerting people to their weaknesses", that is very dependent on the person and their skill level in relation to yours, and their mindset, I generally only point out one glaring thing at a time if I do give advice, a lotta students don't appreciate "constructive criticism" unless it comes from an instructor, offering advice is a real "feel thing" and has lots of variables imo
That intro was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣💪👍
Pleasantly surprise, there are very few offensive or genuinly dumb comments. It is surely annoying to spar with a weaker and more fragile opponent, but there are many guys in the gym who respect the hard work and tremendous effort women and girls are putting to get good in a sport that requires muscle, speed and bone density, which are harder to obtain if you are female. Respect to these guys who spar and help despite the annoyance. If not anything more girls should join the family of martial artists and fighters, entirely for a practical perspective. I am in an age in which we are plannin a child, no doubt i will sign him or her to some form of practical martial arts as soon as possible, especially if it is a girl. Needless to say there are some bad people out there and teenage girls are so naive and honestly dumb sometimes. Self defence classes will be a must surely.
Haha that second last sentence. So pure 😂
Damn I didn't realize that I was that guy (allegedly) because I'll spam people with the same move 10x if it works 😔
Keep doing it it makes your partners think and find new solutions to counter the technique
kermit the hermit
I agree and that's why I tend to do it. As long as I'm not hurting anyone (and I'm not) I think it's a great opportunity for them to at least become aware of a vulnerability they have even if it's annoying.
Some of my favourite moments in sparing have been when I exploit something and literally just touch them with what could have been a clean powerful shot and they're smart enough to realize what happened.
Mutual respect and a lesson without a headache or bloody nose.
I've been on the receiving end of some unnecessary damage (when I was new to kickboxing) and it really sucked. Completely dropped and concussed from a headkick which kinda changed me in some ways.
I'm less naive now (about the questionable people you'll run into at times) and I really try to be respectful of people I train with because I don't want to put someone through what happened to me.
live and learn bro 🙏🙏🙏
If you're not a dick you can tell them WHY you catch them with the same move ;-)
Like: "you telegraph your jab too much" or "dont drop your hands after punching" etc.
I just match whatever level they put out, that's a safe bet I think.
Unless you're a complete beginner everyone should know how to spar light, it's really not that difficult. The problem is a lot of people need to feed their ego and show that they are "better" then you and are a badass. The real baddasses know they are badass and don't need to prove it in a sparring session.
I am female. I have had fights. I prefer to save damage to the head and face for an actual fight. I don't want to risk injury in training. It is scientifically shown the power to size ratio is different for Man to woman at the same weight. SO don't use full power against someone lighter. And excellent point about respecting technique differences too.
definitely anyone who goes full power against someone lighter WITHOUT discussing beforehand is a bad sparring partner
First off - what a beautiful location! I encourage the female karateka in my dojo to have zero tolerance for guys at seminars acting like idiots - there have been a few that have learnt their lesson the hard way ....
I hate those people who injure others in a sparring, good video...
Regardless of gender, you just gotta communicate with your sparring partner what level of force is beneficial for both of you. It's just as easy as asking. I hate it when big guys rely on their added power and size to pummel a smaller opponent, but it's also bothersome when your opponent is overly cautious and doesn't trust you to speak up if he goes too hard. My least favorite thing though is when I land a solid hit on a guy who ends up taking it to his ego and retaliates by leveraging their size and strength against me. You're both there to help each other out, and in an actual fight, you would be paired up with someone your size anyways. Also, Liz and Ashley are women* not girls. I know it's colloquial, but I just wanted to point out how often women are infantilized. Appreciate the content, Sean!
Well said all around 👏🙏
The edge of that mat makes me nervous.
we're very skilled!
Honestly if you cant get past the teep then he should do it so you can get better at getting past the teep sparring is practice its not to win if he teeps you alot and you cant do anything about it then everytime your sparring your trying to focus on that teep or another example atleast for me is being scared of punches so when i would spar i would keep looking forward and just work on moving forward without flinching or looking away
Yeah I agree completely, although with anyone you should at least offer a tip on how cause not everyone can think of how to change something in a stressful situation like she said. Then they can go back into it. Which helps both as teaching something consolidates learning making each of the paticipants better in the long run. At least from my point of view. And same with the fear of punches If its okay with you can I try your strategy as i flinch away and close my eyes unless Im consciously trying not to which is when other things go wrong?
@@reneebatt2576 yeah agreed,but i believe she knows how to get passed it she just needs to practice it more.Just cause you know how to slip and roll doesn't mean you will be successful doing it if you havent practised it in sparring.
@@reneebatt2576 however i will agree people who teep you the whole round dont want to be there lmao
@@willcardenas1579 yeah true I just took it from the perspective in the example she mentioned, sometimes in fights at least of me I can have blanks on what to do but practice would probs help that too
@@reneebatt2576 yeah
I've been taking Muay Thai for about 10 months and it's nice to see the perspective of men sparing with women in the gym. I didn't know you guys were dealing with all that. (Being really big and not knowing how to find your balalnce with a small woman, not feeling comfortable with hitting women in the face, dealing with women using too much power, but them not being able to take yours.) I just thought the guys were being dicks to me by not selectingme as a partner. Tonight I did get a more experienced guy tell me I am using too much power. I will try and be more considerate to my male counterparts. Many if them are very kind and willing to help.
i love the setting all around the sparring mat
My personal mind setup is: go 100% technique and intention, and adjust strength from 50% up when sparring a girl
I'd say 50% is probably to hard tbh. Atleast for face/head shots
@@evanmildrum897 nah 50% is pretty appropriate for face/head shot when sparring a female most people go 70%-80% with face/head shots when sparring same gender
@@0KuYA I guess it's kinda different for me since I'm a bigger guy. If I hit a girl at 50% I'd feel pretty bad
SUCKMANOSE I feel it, I’m kind of a smaller guy so it makes sense that our percentages would vary.
I used to say sorry alot 😂
How did u stop? 😂 I do it all the timw
@@reneebatt2576 just got to know the people in my gym and worked out what sort of power to use with each person. Judge your partners ability and measure against your own, naturally from there you just spar without thinking no apologies no injuries 👌
Edit: this works providing your partner isnt an asshole
@@Peruvianbean hahah yeah. Thanks 😁
@@reneebatt2576 keep sharp fella!
I'm kinda scared that you might fall off the mats
we got this 🙏🙏🙏
I hate girls talking like "hey you can bring it on, don't go light on me because I'm a girl" I mean chill out, girl, I don't go light on you because you're a girl but because it's light sparring.
In my opinion you can hit as hard as they hit you unless they are a beginner and still cant control their punches constantly. As a girl I personally see it as you should spar a girl the same way you would spar a guy at that level,, gender doesnt have anything to do with it, I personally would be offended if i was treated any differently just because of my gender. For both males and females if you dont want to be hit too hard or find that your getting hit too hard its you as an individual's responsibility to speak up, if not take it as it comes and think of it as conditioning.Have you seen some girls spar tho? We can go rough as heck and hit each other hard, from personal experience the girls at our club will spar at a more intense level( i cant think of the exact word I'm thinking of but yeah if you think of it let me know) then some of the guys in the same colour or level as us, so yeah we can take a hit .Also my last point if you want to tell me that im not doing something right like dropping my guard or if you have a tip go ahead and tell me but expect if I notice anything that's off or you could be doing differently Ill also tell you. Thats just my personal oppion and everyones different.
Skill, size, weight differences and whether you have a personal grudge dictate sparring etiquette
In tkd we always spar with the opposite sex. It teaches control on the males part and also teaches the female how to fight a potentially bigger and stronger opponent. It also forms a tighter more cohesive bond amongst the class.
I started training in November and really made big improvements in just 3-4 months before the lockdown. Sadly we're often just 2-3 girls, sometimes I'm even alone with the guys. Most of them don't take me serious at all 🙄 It annoys me so much that I will go to another gym as soon as I'm out of my contract
Muffinpurpergurk that's such a pity 😔 I'm lucky enough to train with guys who actually want to help me improve and get better! You should definitely look into other gyms.
@@friskylilfillly Yeah, sadly you only get to know the team after you are already signed up for several months 🙄 And we only do partner drills or sparring, no heavy bag training. The coaches are upset that I'm always training with the same 1-2 people but whenever I ask the other guys they already have their partners 🙄
(Btw, are you an equestrian as well? Love it 😊 muay thai actually helped me improve my riding a lot)
Muffinpurpergurk yeah very true. aw that’s a pity, heavy bag training can be really great and helpful for improving technique! Aw that’s unfair, it’s hardly your fault! I read a lot of the reviews for my gym before going and a lot of them talked about the great atmosphere and good coaches, and they were definitely right! Yeah I am 😊 or I used to be, I don’t ride anymore but I can totally see how it would help, my mobility and strength has improved so much!
Hm...that small mat with rocks behind is kinda scary.. but it forces sparring people to keep position doesn’t it?
Indeed it does
Yeah, I passed the test!!!
Love the vid but man the edge with those rocks has me super nervous lol
You and me both!
I'd like to spar more of the girls at my gym since they go there 3-4 times a week. They're much more experienced than i am since im still new, plus they've been training there for a few years. I get to spar one girl everytime tho, and im thankfull for that since we're nearly the same height and body weight 🤘 And she kicks my butt everytime. (Literally kicking my butt, and also good with her skill 😂) The other girls are much shorter than me which is completely understandable, but fighting against ppl of different heights is also good training. I've noticed when the shorter person gets closer to us, us tall ppl freak out and start to run off. We arent used to someone actually getting past our arm/leg reach. I believe this helps us tall folks know what to do when someone else is too close to us, and that it also helps build confidence in the shorter person to not be afraid of arm/leg length. (Whether its male or female) And as a result of sparring shorter ppl, instead of running away, i grapple them. (Plus i've noticed no one goes for grappling during sparring, so i wanted to go for some grabs so that what we've learned to do with grappling doesnt get forgotten)
(Plus sparring all the new guys gets boring if all the guys have their partners pre-chosen before class starts 🤪 Not to sound mean or anything, but i cant improve too much if im sparring with "new-new" members that back away after every jab or kick)
at the first, the elbow on the woman!! great! thx man ! kee pon !!
Excellent and important topic!
I just dont spar with females too complicated plus I am not going to fight a women in competition😂😂
I train karate shotokan combined with goju ryu. You are really helping me out becouse I don't spar with girls very often and when I do I try not to hit them but to give them a chance to hit me and then my goal is to avoid it by using my footwork. Btw those girls what am I talking about are 15/20 cm shoter than me sooo thank you.
Good work. I never sparred before so all of these tips are like gold for me. Thanks 🙏
Happy to help!
I'm a smaller guy. 5'6" and lean. I have some of the same issues. Often time when sparring and in the real world people often treat me like I'm fragile or are super aggressive because for some reason I'm supposed to be able to take it. At the same time when sparring your opponent should be sure that they're going at the right speed and strength that allows you to feel comfortable while learning. Otherwise it completely defeats the purpose of sparring
It was weird the first few times sparring with girls not gonna lie. But you get used to it. The only thing to really take into consideration is weight. Being in control of power is key. Hit fast is always important and in terms of power I always start off light and slowly bring it up until I think any harder would hurt. Always good to read your opponents body language
I understand a lot. And learned alot thank you guys. Made me less nervous next time
Great to hear!
I think it's great ,women want to learn Thai boxing much respect ,keep it up ,looking great 🥊
I spar with my gf and i hit her lightly but she hit me so hard...
By the way... nice training background Sean.. its perfect
Tell her go lighter or ill go harder
Just hit as hard as she hits you she could be trying to tell you that you can hit harder. Or if shes new she might not be able to control how hard the punches are?
Great video thx. I feel like you should treat people based on weight classes and experience level. Most girls are 50lb lighter than me so I go a bit lighter like I would for a guy 50lb smaller.
It depends on how strong you are , you cant hit anyone with any power if your really strong and it'll make it seem like your not learning because you cant use any speed without dropping someone. If youre strong spar at a boxing gym or a point fighting system for sparring partner
Beauty and power
Nice video and good advies
Thanks
If I'm sparring someone weaker, which can be the case with a lady, I have three pretend rules:
Maintain a good work rate.
If I hurt them, they'll die.
If they land anything, I'll die.
It means you don't do that awful "patronising" sparring, where you ride what they throw and just stick a limb out every now and then. Also forces you to hold your ground with volume not power, to find angles rather than clubbing through, and to defend like a mutha!
And it keeps everyone safe.
Honestly, it sometimes feels like the most rewarding sparring I ever did.
You should always spar respectfully regardless of gender. And spar to learn/teach not to win. First 30 seconds is a good time to feel each other out and find that power level you are both comfortable with. I'm a big guy but I've had great sparring sessions with kick ass females literally less than half my size. It all works as long as you are not distracted and genuinely trying to improve your skill. Everyone has something to offer you in sparring if you are paying attention.
Tbh, I feel like the thing liz said about the guy just teeping is stupid.
You spar to practice your combos/moves and the fact that the guy who she was sparring with kept teeping doesn'r in anyway translate to him being an asshole, although I am saying this without knowing what actually happened so feel free to correct me.
All in all it just seems that she didn't know how to defend against a teep and got frustrated about it.
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is there maybe a way to train clinching in shadow boxing ?
I can not say how you do it exactly regarding muay thai or whatnot but when it comes to boxing .... stand right in front of a heavy bag ... give it a mighty push in preferred direction and bob and weave and roll with the flow and shadow box close to it ... keep the right distance as if you were clinching with the guy, move enough yet not too much. Your shadow boxing should also reflect that .. keep your guard tight, move your head and throw short punches and combos and cover up. Hope this helps, gl
I think sparrying should be a game of strategy (only on preparation to a fight should you have a "fight spar" with someone the same weight as you) you get chopped if you didnt move the right way and you chop on the one who did the wrong move, always at 50 percent strength/teach, close to a 100 percent speed and 0 percent ego.
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On that platform, the defeated faces the rocks below! (Unless that's some really good green screen FX.)
And you guys don't wear mouth guards? Agreed upon beforehand, no face contact?
I take it as an opportunity to practice my defensive .. I work on my slips .. I teep, kind of just run lol and check ..
Very good tips, thank you guys for this video! And in the very beginning of the video it really looked like Sean was hitting the girls! 😮🙀😅👏🥊👊
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder if it would be an issue if u asked them HOW they like to spar, hard or lightly before u begin
That's always a good option
I liked the video, just for the first seconds... 😂😂
if they're cute, go technical/light. If not, go full Chute Boxe as always
tsk tsk, your boxing club must be called Moms Basement
I’ve been doing bjj for almost a year now but have been thinking of adding Muay thai. Sounds like similar challenges women face with men in bjj. Sometimes I really can’t train with men that are too big. Finding the balance of how hard to go is really tough. I am nervous to try Muay Thai but I think it would help my bjj and overall health.
Good video Sean ! Will you ever make a video of your daily diet and nutrition ?
Eventually, I just never get around to it 😅
Fight as hard as you can no matter spar or fight not only will it benefit you more but your partner too if you think women are more prone to getting hurt help them become stronger
Love your videos sir
I'm a beginner the place I go to is a quiet little place that isn't well known one day before class I was hitting the bag and a kid that never joins class was there and asked if I wanted to spar I said yes and he hit me as hard has he could and only to the body it wasn't helpful at all but I did end up getting a cup shot by accident
This was great and seeing the women spar.. I have to be honest I S)+&* at Sparring . I do not do enough. I have to agree that I don’t mind getting advice from partners and all the guys and women I spar with we are there to help each other. I am absolutely not even close to the caliber of people responding to this video.. (i am old lol) plus i have to work the next morning so we spar fairly lightly . But I just love the martial arts and I love learning. I particularly find your videos all very interesting.. this was a great video... thank you. ( p.s. love your training area )
I am in a bit of a similar position. I started Kyokushin Karate a year ago, at the young and tender age of 48 ;). We spar at almost every training session. And I bruise really easy. So I am always torn between asking the guys (I'm usually the only woman there) to go light on me and just sucking it up and give them as good as I've got (which usually isn't very good). I sometimes crawl into bed after training and cry a little bit, because I feel totally weak and useless, questioning why on earth I am doing this, but then I am always back on the mat two days later, because there really is no place I'd rather be. And that has become my strength. I don't have to be better than the twenty something testosterone bundles I train with. I probably never can be. But I can be better than I was yesterday. And that's enough.
I find it is best to just not bother, the very definition of a lose-lose situation. You go light, the girl just beats on you with no regard for consequence. You go harder, you are the guy who bullies women. Then there is that awkward moment when you teep their tit.
Wouldn't you rather spar with someone rather than having both of you to wait till you switch partners?
I mean, most of these tips on "how NOT to Spar" apply to anyone with a weight, skill, stature gap. Just because you have a dick or she has a vagine, that alone shouldn't be the primary determinant. Here are the tips: be kind, be helpful, seek mutual growth.