Hollyland Mars M1 vs Atomos Shinobi / Shogun Inferno / SmallHD 702 Touch / Focus 7
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- This is a bit more 'raw' (no music, less b roll, less 'hype') so I'd love to know what you think!
I invited Daniel over to compare 5 different 5" and 7" monitors as a small portion of my Hollyland Mars M1 Review. We ended up talking for way too long so I decided to break this out into it's own video as it was all super helpful information to share.
Sorry there isn't a 'proper' conclusion... this was intended as a segment, not a whole video!
Hollyland M1 Monitor review coming soon, let me know what other content you would like to see!
0:00 Introduction
0:18 Comparison Video #1 (Daniels latest video)
0:41 Initial impressions (inferno image sucks!)
1:09 Shinobi
1:30 Comparing them all
2:26 Shinobi vs Hollyland M1 (including build quality)
3:49 Wireless Transmission in a small package
4:15 HDMI Outputs / Wireless Output
4:46 SmallHD vs Hollyland M1
5:13 Comparison Video #2 (Isaac Showreel
5:27 Atomos Shinobi White Clipping
6:15 Focus Pulling
6:38 Image quality to impress clients
7:36 User Interface / Menus
8:56 LUT Loading
9:42 Conclusion
10:04 SDI or lack thereof
10:36 DC barrel in / out
11:00 Daniel Conclusion
11:36 Bloopers
MONITORS (not affiliate links):
Hollyland Mars M1:
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Atomos Shinobi (thanks Daniel!):
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SmallHD 702 Touch:
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
SmallHD Focus 7 (no longer available, replaced by 'indie' line):
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Atomos Shogun Inferno (thanks Charles!)
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Always a pleasure talking tech with you Isaac 😃
Guys loved your video. Just what I was looking for. The only thing I would have liked you to add is the effective brightness of the screens outdoors (with included fan noise, if any).
Brilliant review, super helpful. Thanks guys
Thanks, really appreciate it!
This was just the review I needed. Great job!
Thanks Sebastian, really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment 🔥
exactly what i was looking for. almost exactly the monitor’s i’ve been considering. probably going Mars
I love it in the 5” size. The smallHD monitors are my absolute favourite but this has almost identical image quality, a bunch of accessories included, and the wireless stuff at a price that makes smallHD look like a ripoff. I’m planning auto post a review of the mars in the next few days 🔥
Hello, congratulations for the video. I have a Sony FX3 and I record everything in SLOG3. Now I have a cheap monitor from Feelworld, and I have noticed that it clips the whites when there is a lot of dynamic range in the image. I only use the monitor to compose and to check the exposure (obviously I use false color and parade, but I also want to see the real image as accurately as possible). My question is if the shinobi 5 has a panel with enough steps to be accurate in the representation of the exposure... or which one could be used for that...
My method of exposing is just monitoring the image with a LUT on and having zebras set at 94% to warn me of any clipping.
It works perfectly for me. I can switch to false color to double check but I mainly just use that for skin tones.
I think any of these monitors would be fine as they are all good enough. I’d also recommend not over exposing the footage in camera. I’ve had better results with just doing the correct exposure and I don’t notice any additional noise in the shot
The HM1 seems like a great value. I’d like to see it in a 7” version.
I emailed Hollyland after I published this review and asked them if there were other sizes coming. They said:
“We do have a new monitor coming soon. I believe we will cooperate again soon”
I’m pumped. Not sure what I want more: 7” or 15” 😀
Great comparison! Thanks a lot! 🤩Liked 👍🏻Subscribed ⭐
Thanks, I really appreciate it 🔥
Thank you for reviewing, we use Shinobi and Ninja we interesting Mar m1
Awesome. Did you have any questions about the M1? I am working on the review right now :)
@@Isaac_Insoll thank you we have some questions
- the screen color accurate? Can fix it with the temp function?
- fan noise if close overheating?
- false color it true? When using FX3
Screen color looks incredibly accurate. I had it set at 6500k as that matched the other monitors the most closely and when I spoke to hollyland they said it was the best “default”
Fan noise: annoying compared to my silent smallHD monitors. I turned it off immediately and haven’t noticed any overheating yet so it seems fine.
False color: I’ll get back to you 😀
@@Isaac_Insoll many thank 🙏
Good lineup of monitors. Fan noise is something I don’t like on monitors, the Shinobi 7 has some noise but the 5 has no fan. Would be nice to have a brighter screen on the 5, while also making it lighter. The Hollyland looks cool but if the fan is noisy, that’s a pass. Thanks for the video.
FYI Shinobi does not have the rule of thirds grid lines. Have you guys compared the SDI latency on them? Looking to upgrade to M1 but not sure if the latency on it is worse then the Shinobi SDI.
Thanks for the info. We don’t have a Shinobi SDI to test sorry. I did another video on the M1 and it seems like it always has the latency regardless of input method
I plan on getting the lumix s5iix… and will be recording 6k 30p 4k50p … my question is… would this display correctly or at all on the Atomos Shinobi?
I am aware the shinobi is just a monitor and i want to know if whatever codec i choose to shoot in on my s5iix would it display on the monitor… or is there a limit to what it shows etc?
The codec won’t matter as the camera is just outputting a HDMI feed, not an encoded video file.
I’m not sure how to lumix works but I just set my Sony to output 1080 over HDMI while recording 4k internal. Then even shooting at 100fps the HDMI output is only 1080 so all the monitors support it fine.
If the monitors actually had 4k panels I wouldn’t do that, but they are all 1080 anyway
I bought a second-hand AtomOS ninja inferno, I can’t update it because there is no access to the support site, I have version 8.5, but as I understand it, there is already 10.69, but how can I download it and or how can I get this file through someone and will it fit my AtomOS ninja inferno. please help me please!
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Thanks! I don't have a lot of "non english speaking" viewers so I'm super curious: do you watch with subtitles? how do they work for you?
Do you guys think the Atomos Shinobi is colour accurate enough to set a good white balance when shooting F-log?
Sorry man I can’t answer that. I always use my focus 7 and 702 touch to manually set white balance to “whatever looks good to my eye” but I’ve only ever used the shinobi when we shot this video as it’s Daniels main monitor.
Daniel… just shoots everything at 5600k and uses a canon so he couldn’t give advice on manually white balancing f log 😀
The screen looked accurate in the short time I used it, if that’s any help
@@Isaac_Insoll cheers for your help bro!
CAN YOU TAB AND FOCUS IN ANY ONE OF THEM?
None of these monitors support “tap to focus” for any camera system as far as I know. I’m super excited if there are monitors that will do that on FX3/FX6 but these ones definitely don’t
So I’m buying a shinobi 🥷🏼!! Thanks guys
Love the emoji! Yea it’s definitely bang for buck champ 🔥
Thanks for commenting, it’s nice to know the video is appreciated
@@Isaac_Insoll definitely helped ! I just purchased it second hand from b & h , got a great deal !
702 touch is still tempting though
Hell yea. It’s my favourite monitor ever!
I think the SmallHD Cine 5 looks like a good monitor
Yea, I’d love to get one in for review, but given how many monitors I already own I couldn’t justify the expense of purchasing one at this stage
Ninja V?
I’m pretty sure it’s an identical screen to the shinobi so all observations about the shinobi should hold true for the ninja v
@@Isaac_Insoll cool thanks
Frazer Island?? Are you serious? Do you know how offensive it is to hear that! First nation minority oppression is historical colonialism racism! Haha great vid guys I’m getting the M1 i need wireless.
lol, I panicked at the first half of that comment and was about to blame Daniel for it 😂 Yea I’ve got the M1 enhanced now so Daniel has the original M1 and is loving it 🔥
WARNING Hollyland has horrible latency. Not good for focusing. Better for remote viewing/client monitor.
Thanks for commenting. I did two videos on this monitor: a proper review video including latency testing, then this one which is more an image quality comparison with Daniel. In the other video with the latency testing I pretty much said exactly what you said: great for "directors monitor" but even the monitor in just 'monitor mode' (no transmit/receive) has latency compared to SmallHD monitors. Heres the vid: th-cam.com/video/9AhjmS7ZMrs/w-d-xo.html
Please show the monitor not your faces
Honestly, I agree. When I'm watching a review of a product, I want to see the product, not some random persons face.
However, we had lots of issues shooting this video: there were super obvious visual differences between each of the monitors that we could *easily* see in person, but when filming the monitors the differences weren't as obvious, so I focused on "explaining what we see" over "show the monitors" as it wasn't really showing what it was like in person