Did A Tune Turn Our Volvo V70R Into A BMW E46 M3 Killer?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ธ.ค. 2018
- We finally got our Volvo V70R back on the dyno with its stage 2 Hilton tune and it gave us aweosme results! Did this tune make our car an E46 BMW M3 killer already?
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Modded R owner here. I've raced a few friend's BMWs including a V8 E92. You will take the BMW no problem from a roll. From a dig in a drag that's up in the air. The Rs, both S60 and V70, haldex awd system does NOT like to launch.
As for the further mods, the intercooler is the biggest upgrade you can do for these cars. The factory setup is super restrictive and makes no sense.
I can’t wait to see what my VR makes. I’ve got a Hilton stage 2 tune as well but I don’t have a cat. I’m also about 4000ft above sea level so that will have an affect as well. Loving the content on this car!
Been waiting for this video like a kid for Christmas presents
Love the videos! Miss my old 850 Turbo Wagon
Sounds so nice - makes me miss my BSR tuned T5-R
I have the kw v2 coilovers and they handle great, they are expensive but totally worth it
Wow amazing job
The sound is amazing. Can’t wait to get mine back to the dyno. Were you able to get your boost level and air/fuel ratio at WOT? On my 1998 S70 T5, my AFR was at 12.1. Some people say that I was too lean and others said I was too rich. Either which way, I got a new MAF(from FCP) to install before the next pull. Can’t wait for Friday’s pull.
Love your Volvo videos! Keep up!
Thanks William and thanks for watching! Cheers.
-Gregson
Hell yeah. Hilton tuning rules.
You should get a do-88 intercooler and radiator. For handling you should get black series powerflex bushings
Thanks for making me fall in love with T5 engines
More than happy to help in that regard!
Maybe you should try atotech motor tun from sweden!
KW´s is the way to go... just a perfect coilovers ;-) the best I drove till today, makes such a big diffrence!
Nice to see the before & after comparison of the Hilton tune but please for the love of God stop calling our R's an 'M3 Killer'. You need to lose a few hundred pounds, upgrade a number of parts under the hood, reconfigure the traction control beyond the undocumented "five taps" and completely reprogram the Haldex - which no one has been able to do. The simple fact is that our cars are GT's. They always have been and always will be. I've driven a few 1,200 mile trips and never felt a bit uncomfortable. They were made to keep us relaxed in the worst road conditions. To suggest they'll ever have better performance than an M3 - which is at home on a track - is wildly inaccurate. Sleeper? You bet. But an M3 Killer? Not by a long shot.
It’s the whole point of this build series. We will beat an E46 M3 eventually. You don’t need to lose weight and I’m going to prove that. Take an enthusiast wagon and make it faster than a sports car. That’s the goal of my car. It does not refer to yours or all other Rs. Hence the “our” in nearly every title.
I think you're both right. These cars weren't meant to be driven on a track all day, but at the same time it's not for anyone to say "don't try to beat an M3 because that's not what these are for". So? Do what you like with the car
I mean m3s aren't that fast. So i can see then taking one on.
if the point was just to beat an m3 with a wagon, an RS6 avant should do that stock.....
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Haltech Elite ECU is what you want!! Straight from Australia.
Hey Shifting lanes. Asking for you quick honest review. If I’m going to be getting into the dad wagon life... is the V70 a reliable dad wagon primary car?
Do Öhlins shocks on the car, that will definitely kill the M3 competition! 👍😍👍
I remember when my 2011 Camaro SS L99 was making this to the wheels. I was looking for more like 380awhp.
I really like those wheels! What kind are they??? They would look good on my XC70
I need a tune on my 04 s60r, im not sure if it has one how much is a dyno run so i know what shes pushing??
At this point besides exhaust and stage 2 what mods did you have while this Dyno was ran?
This will take the M3 as it is on a straight now. But you need to reduce the body roll and get slotdrilled brake discs and good pads. Then you just might beat it on the track too! =) Brakes that dont overheat, firmer suspension and some bushings should help you a lot.... and get rid of spare tire etc.
I am torn between a hilton or an ipd tune, i have a 2.5t v70 with snabb intake, fmic and ipd catback. Which one would be best for fun and longevity
PUT THE 4C BACK IN! My S60R has new 4C all around, the adaptive suspension is worth the headache! Also consider HD sway bars, heavy duty links and control arms, lowering springs, chassis braces front and rear.
Nice torque gains! :D Love it. That's what you'll feel off the line, likely noticeable. The HP you'll feel up to speed. But 20hp probably won't be noticeable. So when are you getting a bigger turbo, injectors, fuel pump, coils? ;) In all seriousness though, if you're going for the sway bar upgrade i'd recommend staying away from the IPD ones. I upgraded mine and in less than 2 years they are rusting! O__O They're nice and beefy but they look terrible already. If I had known that i'd have had them re-powder coated thicker, though they did improve cornering. :(
Also, poly bushings do a lot to tighten things up on these old girls. Mine sharpened up after some of those upgrades (top mount, lower toque mount on tranny, top bar inserts, sub frame inserts) Still have to do control arms, rear sub frame bushings etc.
Thanks! Yea the torque is looking very nice. The HP is definitely noticeable near the 5k mark TBH when compared to before. Once the IC, intake, and piping, with tune, are all on then I think it will be truly noticeable.
Good shout on the sways and bushings. Will keep that in mind, thanks!
@@ShiftingLanes I just installed the massive Snabb intercooler, bought through FCP, I highly recommend it. I went with an Elevate intake and it's decent quality. Be prepared to hear sweet, sweet turbo noises. Check out my videos! I highly suggest you get the Hilton Antilag and a QTP cutout. It's made my car the ultimate sleeper.
I've been following you and have been doing my v70 at the same time. I got a lpt. I added a 16t turbo with 9 vane turbine. R injectors, steering wheel and shifter knob and exhaust manifold. And I have a downipie and full exhaust too. Snabb intake and do88 intercooler. I hope I can get a tune but I don't know who to go with. Thanks you guys
erik litchy Gustav all the way.
I can personally recommend Hilton but Contrastworks is also highly reputable. Either will be great for your needs!
had a 2001 Volvo V70 T5 and had it tuned. Originally 250 HP. Later 313 hp
I want one
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The V70R has permanently awd?
The smaller Modells only have a haldex right!
Go IPD for sways they are cheaper
looking at buying a s60r and these videos have not helped lol if i do pick up the s60r and you do change coilovers id be interested in your bc's
God it sounds good. Looks like you could use a new lower taillight. Looks likes it’s had water in it. I can get you some used ones out of the junkyard near me if you want
Thanks! Love the sound too.
Yea it definitely has water in it. Would LOVE a new left lower tail. Shoot me some pics of anything you can find. Contact@shiftinglanes.com. Thanks!
You're catching a lot of shit for saying you want to beat an M3 but honestly just go for it if you feel you can do it or want to at least try. I believe in you, but even if you don't you'll have one of the nicest V70s out there
Love these Volvo just missed getting one by a day. 291 hp to the wheel which is a 4w drive shld b around 380-390 to crank
btw how much is 0-100 acceleration? kph
That thing sounds so good! Do you know how much boost it made before and after the tune?
Thanks! Love how it sounds. All thanks to the 8Eight Fab DP and turboback exhaust.
Unfortunately I don’t know the boost PSI as I don’t have a boost gauge. I will be installing one eventually.
@@ShiftingLanes Check out the Volvotech.eu CFE Plus. I accidentally gushed for a couple paragraphs but realized it was too long for TH-cam comments. It lets you display any relevant ECU/TCU/etc numbers on your in-dash digital readout, much less a zillion other neat features. I have it turn on my front fogs and reverse lights for 90 seconds on unlock when I go camping, for example. I was thinking about the boost pod, but pulling the dash and instrument cluster for a podded cluster is not fun.
@@DanNoThanks +1 for the CFE Plus. Works great on my V70 T5 M66
I have the same tune, before my gauge read about 15 psi and now in a 3rd heat pull it holds between 20-21, about 5 psi and I can say bye-bye to my block! Gregson, you really need to get a boost gauge, it’s pretty much an essential to tuning your car
the sound of a engine wanting more than a estate life :) those graphs looked really healthy, the gap in power shows from down low all the way, i know it feels amazing as i have detuned mine that had a tune when i bought it, the midrange is so underestimated when people throw down numbers. will be interesting seeing when you get intercooler and rerouted the housings what it will do, have you considered a IPD turbo upgrade? am thinking about it myself af the IPD is a direct bolt on ceramic ball bearing turbo with a bit bigger exhaust port so it will breath allot bether at higher rpms and make more power on the same boost figures, and it's not really any slower spooling up than the stock one.
I hope you do beat an M3, but I think it’s going to be a long road. Should your wagon see track time, I’d recommend shimming the block.
Will happen within the next month 🙂
I honestly wouldn’t recommend an E85 tune. It’ll ruin the point of the car being a sort of useable sleeper. You’ll make more power than you think with the intercooler and meth kit and you won’t really need more.
The ECM can be programmed to act like a flex fuel car. I've run it in my R with pretty conservative timing advance, but I have a Aeromotive fuel pump and 550cc injectors to supply the extra 30% more fueling required. With just a upgraded down pipe the car made 285 awhp. The R is not an M3 and it won't be. This project should have been aimed at the S4.
Justin Lee that’s both wrong and beside the point. The car can easily be compared to the M3, idk what it is about the internet and putting it on a pedestal but it’s not that good of a car.
As far as the flex fuel or E85 tune, it doesn’t matter. Now your cold start ups are going to be a pain, you’ve got to have a regular full E85 tune to see worthwhile benefits, meaning you now have to hunt for it at specific gas stations, oh and your fuel consumption sky rockets. The cool factor of the R is that it’s a sort of an all in one package, yet you completely change that when you go to E85 and it becomes a halfway race car.
@@dudeshark2471 if someone is converting to e85 they obviously have easy access or it is a weekend car
"I honestly wouldn’t recommend an E85 tune" That may be THE WORST advice of 2018
I said only pussies run nitrometh...
What boost gauge are you getting? I'm looking for a budget one.
Ipd makes a good one that's pretty reasonably priced, even better if you can get it on sale 👍🏼
Hey quick question, does the 4c chassis alignment code put the s60r in limp mode?
Nope. Only relates to suspension and throttle response.
@@ShiftingLanes got it. Thanks!
Good! on the power department, do you have the intercooler? also good is the cold air intake and the hiflow air filter, that 3 things make a very interesting diference.
Have all that. Full kits from Snabb via FCP Euro. IC, intake, and piping kit. Cannot wait to get those on and tune this thing again.
@@ShiftingLanes ok, the tune was without those parts.... the diference with those parts on is going to be.... you are goingo to fall in love with the car even more jajaja
Haha awesome! Yes as noted in the video the only change was the tune since last time.
Cannot wait even more now to get those parts on!
I'm looking forward to see what the tuner world does to the 2019 S60 R. sad its not a 5 cylinder, but the hp and torque numbers seem pretty stout on the 2.0
There is no "2019 S60 R". Plus, the 2 liter is already nearly maxed out. Tuning it heavily will just destroy it.
@@sl3200 I can tell you it will be, probably towards the summer 2k19
@@sl3200 do your research mate, s60 r is aka t6, awd model, base price at $45k, but with all the goodies more like $53k.
@@hippieslacker6466 Do my research? Dude, I know which engines are in which cars, and I know what they are called. Volvo is NOT selling a "2019 S60 R". Period. Fact. End of story. They have not sold a real R since 2007.
I have a real R, a 2006 V70R.
What has your new tune done to your fuel economy?
City is garbage. Highway is about the same.
Did you apply shims.?😯
He better and or more trouble awaits ya.
Replace the stock turbo with an aftermarket larger one.
On the list!
V70 R
The V70R should be getting 300BHP stock. About 330BHP Stage 1 tuned.
A bsr tune for the v70r would give you about 350hp alone
Anyone nearby with an M3 to test your theory? Local drag way?
Yes and yes.
No need for theories. just decide what M3 you want to kill and clock your 1/4 mile time and see if it is faster. It may be faster than e36 but not e46 or e9x
E46 M3 Killer... Right, the wishes.
I thought these V70R's are 300HP stock?
They are. At the crank. This is wheel HP.
Whats the power at the crank?
Given parasitic loss being 15% average, you’re looking at about 335-340 crank
ShiftingLanes I have one more question I apologize but is coil overs better than the 4C system in advance mode in terms of performance or is just getting a normal coil over set up cheaper cause I know the 4C is pricey
Coilovers are vastly superior and the BC setup that we have is available for $1000 on FCP Euro. All new 4c everything will run you $2000. Advance mode will not have any function on the suspension if you go coilovers as you will lose 4c functionality which is directly tied to those buttons.
Stop comparing the R to a M3. If you want to compare it to something compare it to an S4 of that era....which is AWD and boosted like the R.
AFR 9.3???
9.4
Was it on e85?
Nope, 93
Ok thats running wery rich then. Maby the tuner can clean it up next time on the dyno if you can adjust the tune. How much turbo pressure? Nice car you have there, i have a s80 T6 myself!
Ask on volvospeed and swedish forum www.garaget.org for suggestions
Please explain why you would be relating a NA 2 door sports car coupe with rear wheel drive to a turbocharged awd wagon. Please? The video has some intelligence to it but the title does not. Wouldn’t the STI you mentioned in the video make more sense???
Watch the rest of the build series. Start at the beginning and all will be explained.
The downpipe and to a lesser extent the exhaust system is killing your power. You’ll see a 20+ hp bump; that turbo is choking
The DP and exhaust have been upgraded to about as big as you can go. Highest quality made. It’s not the exhaust, there are a lot of other factors at play holding it back like 93 pump gas, OEM injectors/IC/intake, etc.
ShiftingLanes Fair enough then, I didn’t realize the turbo back was done. I had one of these years ago, and tuned it before I did the exhaust 3.5” dp, 3” catback. After the exhaust and downpipe, it felt like as big of a gain as the tune; do to the order I did things. Nice project, love the channel 👍
you have a thing for killing e46 m3s , don't you..
They must die
Don't worry, most BMW M3s will end up killing themselves soon as the warranty expires.
you can go kill your own volvo in a few years once you start getting "anti skid service required."
j/k
You're not really going to kill BMW's are you? Probably a little of an over-reaction...
It’s the whole point of the build. To beat an E46 M3.
Lol you mean a slow ass E46 M3 with no torque?
I will keep an eye out for dead Beemers then. I will be ok, I drive an Audi?
Lol. You’re next!
Glad I live in New Zealand! Greetings from the Deep South of NZ! Love the channel.