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Is Our Volvo V70R Really As Good As We Think It Is?
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So the M3 has been sold but that left Chad without a ride until the Lexus is up and running. The only solution? Relieve Gregson of his Volvo V70R and see what all this Volvo fuss is about. This is the Shifting Lanes Review of our Volvo V70R and it features none of Gregson.
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I get those crazy looks every time I drive my Polestar. Most people seem confused that a smurf blue Volvo station wagon sounds like a sports sedan and pulls like a Porsche
that’s why I love my classic beetle. An air cooled boxster sounds mean as shit even though I have a 0-60 of about 60
Station wagon are actually really common here in Sweden, and are still selling well.
Not only do they sell well they are the most popular type of vehicle here.
To be more specific the inline five found in the V70nR (or as you Americans call it, V70R P2) is a B5254T4.
A Volvo V70n with a manual transmission is not rare here in Sweden, but the R is.
Lucky. Theyre all but dead here in the states.
-Chad
The 850 T5 has a Nicer sound i think
we also got the Twin turbo 6 cylinder in the 08- :)
They aren't in the 🇺🇸. We buy cheap suvs and cross overs.
What is the N version actually..? I have only ever heard of that designation twice.
It’s a Volvo thing, you have to own one to understand the love.
Yeah many people are wondering why someone loves hes)her Volvo so much but u cant really understand it unless u own one urself. U will make strong connection between u and ur Volvo
I never thought I'd buy a Volvo EVER. I bought my first car - 2005 V70 - with a rush because i needed a spacey car at that moment. Now I'm in love with it. I actually want the R version next.
Exactly! Once you get sucked in, there is no way back out. I will never have another brand as a daily driver!
I own a 2004 V70 20T after owing a 2004 V70 D5 and I never even consider another car. It’s just the wagon shape, big cargo area, comfy cream interior, heavy feel, cool alloys, plenty of power when you need it. Thank you Peter Horbury for designing a Jaguar crosses with a transit van!
@@AndorRadnai I am doing my part in convincing others to love them. everyone is loving my 2003 s60 2.5 awd 5 cyl turbo.
why do Americans think you have to have a reason to buy a wagon? I'd buy most wagons over the sedan version.
Also, drive the RWD turbo volvos to really get why people love these bricks.
Alex Strömberg i bought a cheap rwd volvo as a backup car, never thought that i would like it more than my main car and now i spend more time with the volvo,modifying and stuff. Volvo for life lol. Btw its a volvo s90 with a turbo redblock swap.
For the same reason everyone here thinks they have a reason to buy a crossover or SUV.
Muin Zakaria sadly here in Sweden, swaps arent allowed so we can't have the 960 cars with the redblock or turbocharged.
@@alexstromberg7696 they're actually allowed, it just counts as you creating a custom vehicle which you need to certify and get approved. Stupidly expensive but it's possible.
@@angrydragonslayer you have to swap more than the engine to get it approved tho, everything has to be rated for the hp gains. You also get a limit of 15kw per 100kw. And everything you get has to come from another car original. You can but it's hard.
it is very rare to see youtuber drive Volvo or make it as a project car. keep it up bro. i love volvo and i owned one V50 T5.
Wagons are dying (in the US only) because people are stupid - they are cool af and in most cases look better than their sedan counterparts. Nice sleeper.
Mark J I agree, only a 0.1 of a second 0-62 is lost compared to there performance sedan bases, they get crazy mpg and are just as practical as an suv, and if your talking a remapped T6 v90 cross country, it’s more off road capable than most SUV’s better on the road and quicker acceleration.
@@4wdsome444 Far more practical than an SUV/Crossovers storage wise fpr the size. All SUVs suck dong and hace bloated storage metrcis due to how tall these things are when in real life you have less storage than similar size wagon
When I had my S60R I realized the AWD system wasn't working, after some research I decided to buy the replacement/rebuild kit for the angle gear which is a common problem, but I later found out that it was my driveshaft that wasn't working, once I replaced that it worked great! I still have the rebuild kit with some of the fluids for the haldex I think so if you need it let me know, I'm local (north NJ area).
Those Volvo wagons are fun, practical, and good looking. There’s so much room in the back of those. I also love the orange interior
So much more room for activities!
-Gregson
My friends dad had an S80 with a V8 and AWD in it, that was one freaky beast.
Love the Atacama interior! The all wheel drive is set to be 90% power goes to the front, and the rear only gets more power when slippage is detected. Great Video!
I have a 2002 v70 AWD black wagon.
I put in a 100% rebuilt transmission, complete brakes, complete suspension, complete timing belt kit, new engine oil gaskets,.... what the hell else could go wrong!!??
burritojonz i had that car and miss it terribly!
To address the torque steer, look at installing front control arm front poly bushings and poly subframe bushings inserts. When the haldex engages, the car can send 100% of the power to the front or rear depending on which end has the most traction. Haldex engagement is nearly instant and should not be noticeable.
Only the newer V70Rs got the "InstantTraction" thing, so if this doesn't have that, it can probably be felt when the car changes the ratio of power.
Alex Strömberg this is true. Though the original and faster version still react very quickly.
Great to see the TH-cam generation discovering the nuance of Volvo as much as the Grey beards who love them in the UK . A few points : The Haldex , DSTC and 4C systems need to be fully functional and serviced / VIDA software updated for this platform . Check the control arm bushes and steering rack for end float - steering pumps cook the fluid causing premature failure of pump and lines , retain the OEM Wheel / Tyre size and pressures , add 2 large bags of sand as rear ballast . My 10 yr. old AWD XC70 SE LUX D5 4 wheel drifts in the dry , digs in , and corrects itself without any drama - 'Advanced ' mode is permanently selected . With the OEM Suspension removed your V70 has been neutered . Enjoy !
I bought my s60r about a week before you posted your first video with the original v70r. My haldex functioned but immediately I started spraying the driveshaft hubs with penetrating oil. A few weeks later I did haldex service on my wifes 05 s60 awd and the driveshaft was completely seized at the rear differential. With the shock dampener you cant get in there to smack the hub with a hammer. Their are places to install jack bolts into the backside of the driveshaft hub to push it apart but being in the rust belt the bolts seized up before pushing on the driveshaft hub. I made a tap out of a spare bolt by cutting slots in it with a dremel and using the bolt as a tap. Eventually I got the driveshaft apart. Had a ton of time in it.
Meanwhile my s60r driveshaft had been sprayed 3x with penetrating oil. When I serviced the haldex on it I unbolted the driveshaft and smacked it with a dead blow hammer and it fell apart.
Moral of story, rust belt...spray the driveshaft hubs/cv's with penetrating oil a couple times before you try to take it apart.
Love the V70's!!! It was bigger than my 4-Runner and better gas mileage.
Holly hell, that sound
i started out thinking volvos were meeeh, but after i started buying them, Volvo proves every time how goddamn good their cars are. currently i have a 2005 V70 and i absolutely love it
Lovely R, and it`s quite safe. i had a Police version of the V70,was like glue on the road
I love my 2005 XC70. V70 with great ground clearance for gravel roads. Comfortable. I'll buy another. Only drawback is parts are expensive in NZ.
Thanks for throwing my name out once again!! Love you guys!!
I really dig the interious colour... must be ultra-rare, at least here in Germany where it's typically all grey/beige or black.
It is on V70, but most v70R have it. Everyone immediately realized how cool it was
im from sweden i love this car but in sweden its pretty expensive you have a great channel
The shifter is so nice and clean
To add to the SUV debate, I have a p2 XC70 which is all those things you mentioned plus it is good in the snow and has higher ground clearance than most SUVs.
I know this is an entire year late. However, I tend to agree with much you have said regarding drivabilty and fun equation.
I'm currently into my 2nd S60R and have owned a BMW 325 prior. I've always compared the handling of every other car to the 3 series. That 325 was fun!
But, the build quality of the Volvo surpasses it, albeit minus the pin-point handling and turn-in of the 3 series. With that being said, I never revisted BMW since..nor have I ever spun out in wet slimy leafy fall conditions either with my S60Rs! Great vid! Thx much
The easy way to check if AWD is working is find a piece of grass the slicker the better, adjust outside mirror so you can watch rear tire, drop the clutch. The rear should engage and spin immediately along with front. If it doesn't put car on hoist try to turn rear drive shaft with car in gear, if it seems solid angle gear is OK. Apply power to Haldex differential electric pump, you should hear it run. If it doesn't that is your problem. Change Haldex fluid, I drilled and tapped my S60R to facilitate this, and replace electric Haldex pump. This is what caused my S60R to lack AWD and become essentially a powerful front driver. With AWD working the car doesn't have appreciable torque steer and at least on snowy roads feels more like a RWD.
They are built very well. I am wanting one too. They seem to be indestructible.
I'm looking forward to picking up a v70R with a spaceball at some point in the next few years but I'm worried about how rare they are in Canada. My father has an '02 is300 in yellow with the manual and Torsen dif, and its a dream to drive, but after growing up with and owning a v70 myself, I cant live without that 5-cylinder under the hood...
I never have any torque steer in my 06 M66 V70R. When the AWD works it shouldn't have any torque steer. One of my favorite things is the lack of torque steer
i really wish i had a v70r instead of my 2002 v70 t5. i just love manual Transmissions and would love to have my Volvo Wagon as a manual.
As long as the previous owner disabled the 4C suspension correctly so that it doesn't disable the selector switch, the Comfort, Sport, Advanced selection still has benefits with throttle response, valve timing, haldex control, etc.
And the torque steer is common with the R's and some other engines. My S80 V8 had so much power that it had nasty torque steer on the highway when you put the pedal down.
Volvo for live, I love your video it's awesome from the VOLVO lover
There is something about that 'Volvo for life'. I currently own a T5 2.4 S60, and if I would have needed another car... it would probably be a Volvo again.
John Callaghan, with you 💯 I have 2 VOLVO now S 80 T6 300 BHP and an old 740 red block
Once drove a t6 272 hp from a friend of mine, feels like a flying carpet, so smooth. Mine is chipped to 310, but makes about 305 at the cranck, M66 gear box. 740 is boxy, I like the S70 model and of course the 850. I should have bought a V70 instead of the S60, but I bought mine second hand 4 years ago, an '07 one.
My mind it's blown, outside it looks like a grandad car, inside it looks like a family limousine but it sounds like a Ford Focus racing teenager car. That's just too much 🤣
I had a Volvo S60r 2004 (350hk). Sold it 3 weeks ago :(. When the Haldex is working, there is no torque steer, but on wet/snow surface you could notice a little slip on the front tires before some power is send to the back wheels, but no torque steer.
When the Haldex is no working the car is all over the place, can`t use first and second gear without holding to the steering wheel with your life.
And some other info is that the car is sending 100% power to the front wheels. When it needs more traction it`s splits the power 50/50, so you can`t have the longest drift. I used mine on a ice track in Norway a couple of times.
The Haldex gen2 on the car isn`t the most robust AWD system. I had to replace the angle gear on mine.
You guys probably know this, but push the DSTC button 5 times and it disables the antiskid system completly and a guy told me that it also activate the haldex system all the time (not sure about the last part).
I have a sonic blue v 70 R 2006. 67 k. and love it the time i bought it. in 2010 came back from Holland yesterday 4 th of may and people ask can i make a foto 5 x in 14 days it is so strange every body loves the colour. will never chance my car its a sleeper allright.
I own a 2007 V70R 6MT. I've also owned 3 others. If you have torque steer, the AWD is def not operating. I'm sure you've researched, but it could be the angle gear coupling sleeve, the Haldex pressure switch, or the Haldex pump. Find someone to readout the car with the Volvo proprietary software.
Agreed. My 2006 V70R GT doesn't have any perceivable torque steer.
Yep my 06 M66 V70R doesn't have any torque steer at all. One of my favorite things is the lack torque steer.
Hi, there a sleeve between the differential on the transfer box off the M66 gearbox, it transfers the drive to the transfer box, the teeth inside the sleeve wear away and the drive to the prop shaft drops off there for losing the drive to the rear wheels.
Its a tasks to say the least, the sub-frame and the transfer box have to be removed and the sleeve is usually struck in the transfer box had to cut them off in the past, but if I remember there not expensive, but the labour charges will soon change that, it makes a massive difference to the drive as the loss of drive falls away over a period of time so you don't notice it dropping off, until its pushed!
Hope this is of some help
Yes. The Haldex pump needed a refresh on my 04R . Up until it was replaced the traction control light was the busiest thing in it.
well marby the wagon is dying in the usa but in EU i full of wagon more wagon's then sedan cars :D but cool to see a v70r in the us
My S60R has never had torque steer until lately, it just hit 220k miles, needs complete tune up etc etc.. I believe it's the haldex unit
lift the car up and check the haldex and service it. Test it on slippery condition. I think the haldex just need a good service with some fresh oil!
most likely fucked angle gear, those are like 600 bucks.
The v70r is quite possibly the greatest estate car ever, the UK police used them kitted out to nearly 5500lbs, and ran them for around 200,000 miles with out any problems, there is even a story of a v70r with its stock engine out running a 5.0 2007 mustang with all the police gear. The crazy part is there are factory and highly tuned v70r’s with well over 300,000 miles on the clock still being daily driven
Sweden has station wagons all the time because of Volvo!
Great video. Love the V70R. I would however, make a counterpoint to what you said at the beginning of your video, regarding manufacturers making less wagons. This was definitely the case about 5 years ago. After all, we lost the Hyundai Elantra Touring, we lost the Mazda 6 Sportwagon... But we have a great Volvo Wagon set, Jaguar has a new wagon (Shooting Brake) and Buick has the Regal TourX. There is also talk of Mazda, who always cuts against the grain, bringing their 6 Sportwagon back too. I foresee a new wave of wagons coming our way. It's a niche market, but at the $40,000 price point and up, people like wagons.
Volvo rule ! Name a company that raced a station wagon ?
IPD "track" spec swaybars and haldex pump clean/replace haldex fluid change
The only problem is that Americans are buying what is essentially wagons with a 12" clearance and much higher cabin.
I recently purchased a 2005 XC90 4.4 V8 with a few issues. I'm having a hard time finding good content on DIY repairs. I love the vehicle and would consider keeping it long term but the lack of good DIY videos is a problem. Would toy guys consider picking one up and make videos on it?
CAn you please do a bi-roll with a GoPro or whatever other camera from another angle inside of the car? Your talk is better than repetition that Greg goes into sometimes.
2004 Volvo s60. It's so much fun to drive. I smile every time I get in. Enjoyed your video and subscribed. Unless you own and drive a Volvo, you don't get it.
Make me want to full exhaust my s40 2.4i. I know though since its non turbo, it's gonna be even louder than the 2.5t
Love this car!
You can improve the turn in of the car by adding poly subframe bushing insert from IPD. It takes slack out of the bushings making steering more direct.
Love these cars , like the room in them , I've had a V 50 Volvo Diesel for four years and have only had to pay out on wear and tear, as long as you do your oil changes filters , when required , should have no probs. Cheap to run , tax and insure.
I have a Forester XT 5 speed and B5 S4 avant. This is on the list of addition to my fast wagon fleet. Where in jersey you guys from?
How's the reliability on the s4 Avant?
Chad, I'm so glad that you got rid of "Money Pit" BMW, because that is what they are... Especially when you don't have know how(i.e. not a professional mechanic). Lexus just a better option, I'll defiantly pay attention to that project(especially if Turbo is involved). As for Volvos you are correct Cross-Overs are Station Wagons killers, but have you tried XC-60 T6? Unfortunately I did... But love my V-70, always, my wife too, now 240 that is nostalgically only me, my wife would not drive it without a gun to her head, lol. Have you heard expression - "Volvo for Life"? I think now you know a true meaning of Volvo's moto.
Thanks. It's a major relief to have the BMW gone. And I go back and forth with the Lexus and turbos every day. It's the cheaper route right up to about 300hp/tq. The w55 starts shredding 3rd gear above that.
The R154 or Nissan boxes are an option. But the headers and itbs on a straight six are so sexy. Right now I gotta figure out brakes and suspension.
For a Front wheel Drive - Volvo has very lazy steering. But it is comfortable and that 2.5L is a singer of an engine.
You should get your hands on a 3.0 V69 Polestar.
Those are all automatic...which is disgusting.
Happened to me on my S60R, a lot of torque steer was the give away
How much HP and torque have this V70? And which types of mods are done in the engine?
Without the 4C functioning you’re missing a lot of what makes this car so amazing. In ADVANCED the car behaves completely differently. Turn-in, engine response, haldex control, suspension behavior, the list goes on...
Yeah just want to clarify torque steer is usually very much still a problem for awd cars. My 2004 s60r is the same. Awd is working but because engine is a horizontally positions in line five and transmission is thrown on the end this means also that there is a unequal length in axles for the front wheels. Thus this would cause uneven torque being applied to each side aka torque steer. And if you dont believe me there are procedures dor checking the awd angle gear.
Not like this. We found out that it was the AWD system malfunctioning. Fixed now!
-Gregson
ShiftingLanes o hahah ok keep up the amazing reviews
You know what would be really great, if you did a video of you filling it up so the rest of the world can be envious of how cheap your fuel costs are!!
about that awd, I had a s60r as my first vehicle, and it was FWD. Only because the AWD wasn't working. I was told that a sensor in it wasn't working.
Huge Volvo fan
LOVE THIS CARS...I HAVE V70 2003...!
Get a boot liner and look after that atacama boot carpet! You will struggle to replace it if you wreck it! Haldex is not working properly as there should not be torque steer just pulling away.
Will be fully restored with new carpet soon-ish 🙂
-Gregson
change oil on the Haldex , 2 times . The Haldex will work perfect :-)
Do you have details of the exhaust? I have a 98 T5 that I would love to sound like yours.
The unique T5 engine sound from Volvo is just amazing!
4wd is better cornering, just look what audi 90 did in imsa. They got so heavily regulated it's funny almost.
I don't really get why everyone is surprised that a wagon can be fast, but takes fast sedans for granted? It's just another body style. It's not like the laws of physics are broken :P
Love the v70r and the vid but not all the ads
LOL you mean 4c suspension is a really expensive system to replace, but the steering on all P2 volvos is bad
It is expensive. But you can replace all of it will new Bilstein fronts and Sachs/Volvo rears from AWD 2.5T. Same message will display for chassis settings, as with failed 4c Struts.shocks but who careS!
yeah i've been researching this as a 6sp manual magic blue s60r has popped up for sale near me. I hope i can hurry up and sell my T5 so i can get it. I honestly prefer T5s to Rs but at the end of the day the manual car wins.
I believe ipdusa has the solution for that for the suspension. I6 watch a video couple a days ago for p2 models
Love volvos. Best car i owned by far
I feel your trouble with the turning circle and the AWD. I just got a manual R and with all the torque coming in it still seems to wheel spin, dont know what’s happening there..
Dude your talking about everything but the topic. And when you do say something about the car, you’re basically stating the obvious. Don’t drive and talk because your conversation is broken and not consistent.
He talks a lot but says little.
It should not have torque steering issues. If I remember correctly, the engine in most inline engine voles are mounted sideways. The AWD system is definitely not working correctly.
All wheel drive in a volvo is having the power divided unequally. The Left front wheel is direct while the other three are locked together. Unless you drive in snow get rid of the rear driveline and you'll enjoy a much faster better handlng ride.
I am your 24,000th sub!!
"Volvo it's not supposed to sound like that".. Well shit, First T5 was out like 1993 :D
Hello, I see that you have "MP3" player attached? Could you be as kind as to share, how did you connect or how do you play via the stock radio please? thank you.
Marek
Come to Sweden, only car model you will see is wagons...
The haldex is front biased. It's gonna understeer. My 15 v60 RD acts the same way on dry ground.
What year is this
the drone watching the video seems worse than if you were driving, maybe time for a new mike,
Yea Chad has been having mic issues. That’s the mic built in to the GoPro itself. We’re getting it all fixed soon. Drone is not as bad as this video shows.
-Gregson
I have a question and i was hopif somone could help me, whats the difference between a v70 v70r or a v70t5
I was once a mazda rx7 guy but now iam a v70 t5 guy
Wagons are dying in the US because enthusiasts generally don't buy new cars and new car sales is what sets what manufacturers sell going forward. New car buyers all flock to SUVs because they want taller vehicles so they can sit as tall as trucks. As much as I am against buying new cars for the sake of value, if no one bought new there wouldn't be any used cars for anyone to buy and new car buyers tell manufacturers what the general population wants.
im in the uk i have a few grand and im not sure wether to buy an 850t5r or v70r ive have seen a lot of both for sale
I have an 06 Volvo v70 2.5 turbo. Codes came up and are making the car run bad. Plus it's burning oil do u know what is wrong and do u think it's worth fixing?
Your turbo needs to be replaced. Fix it.
What are your rims?!?!!
Who makes them where can I get them for mine !!!!
Adventi Rein wheels. I’m actually selling mine. Shoot me an email. Contact@shiftinglanes.com if you’re interested.
I have a V70 2 wheel drive conventional and it toque steers. I think the AWD is not working properly.
Oops its actually a 2.3l maybe I should run this channel
can confirm: lots of torque-steering under heavy acceleration.
Crossovers/SUV dont do anything better aside of maybe clearnece but not always. Storage wise they are far worse. They are only taller and usually shorter. People stupidly think they are better even when most of the time awd systems in these is just useless fluff turning only when you slip or not at all.
Wagons are just fine in europe and australia for instance. All sedans on the market should have wagon or at very least liftback variant, but people in US are just really misguided with their car shoping decisions for last 30 years killing both manual transmissions and wagons.
Such a nice car minus the new wheels.
certain volvo's have some decent looking rims stock, but it does not apply to all
Truth be told every group of fans thinks "their cars" are hands down the best on earth.
what are the wheel specs ?
'Coilovers' as in what's on the car as standard? I.e. a spring mounted over a damper.
Nice what muffler have you ?
Notice those huge brake discs both front AND rear
But how much faster is it than the old auto one?
Just by feel, a good amount. From factory the 0-60 was a full 1 second faster. Sure feels even faster than that.
-Gregson
ShiftingLanes kinda sounds in the video like it has a heavy flywheel.
erik litchy they do have pretty heavy flywheels.