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Been driving my Honda without power steering fluid for over 3 years. Got tired of putting fluid every month. To this day I just man handle the steering wheel like my grandfather did back in the 1920’s. If some one tries to steal my ride, which I doubt would happen, it’s manual, with no 2nd gear and no power steering.
You're crazy. 😅 Jk. I'm not proud of this, but I don't know how to drive a stick. I Know how and I have drove before, but easier to say I don't know how.
I agree, you showed me how to be patient and just track it down, it has to be going somewhere. I found it. I fixed it for nothing. And I already ordered a new pump. I’ll send it back. Maybe I’ll keep it because it is an old car you never know I’ll probably need it sooner or later… but that’s me always assuming the worst. The moral of the story, start simple. Thank you again.
No need to guess what the oil leak was. It was the Oil Pressure Switch. I've gotten to know the Hondas quite well over the last couple years. I bought my granddaughter an '03 CR-V, and I bought an '01 Accord EX 3.0L last year as a hobby car/weekend ride. It never fails with the 2.4L. I finally got all the oil leaks fixed, and replaced the alternator (what a production to even get to the darn thing!), and just noticed yesterday that granddaughter's PS pump is now leaking. It looks like it's coming from the fittings. Going to try and replace the O rings in the return and high pressure connections to see if that fixes it. If not, I can get a reman'ed OEM pump and put it in.
This video covers older conventional power steering systems with power steering fluid and an engine driven pump. Newer systems use Electrical Power Steering (EPS), which uses an electric motor to assist with steering force instead of fluid and a pump. I do not talk about EPS in this video.
Very informative video 👍. Thank goodness my leak isn’t at the boot. It’s leaking at the bottom connection of the pressure line and made quite a mess around there.
There doesn't seem to be a power steering cooling sub-system for these K-Series Hondas. I don't have one in my Element whereas all the other cars I have owned over the years had something along the lines of a cooling loop in front of the main radiator or a mini-radiator or even a loop inside the bottom tank of the main radiator.
Excellent video with amazing detail which I learnt a lot from. I'm glad you mentioned that you only use Honda power steering fluid and also only Honda parts. My 2000 Acura TL 3.2 power steering fluid is leaking. A friend said go to a local mechanic, and some people on the internet said to use stop leak and that non Honda power steering fluid is safe. After your great video and other sites that also suggested only use Acura power steering fluid, I have decided to have my nearby Acura dealer fix it. After your video and a few other videos I know that it isn't the O-ring and not the rubber steering boot below and no strange sounds when turning the steering, and no over flowing fluid bubbling out of the reservoir, which never went dry thankfully, I figure that it's likely just the power steering hoses need replacing, which is expensive however a lot less expensive that changing the power steering pump. I'm thankful I didn't try stop leak or other makes fluid as it can wreak the whole system.
THANK YOU for this video. My Honda dealer showed me this exact leak and told me I needed a whole new rack. I didn't believe him. Thought he was just trying to make extra money off of me but you said the very same thing so I guess I'm getting a new rack.
Hopefully some people see this and are enlightened. For years now, the dealerships have become parts re-placers and not parts repairers. The total solution is always we need to replace this, Repair, never enters the conversation.
just so you know, most leaks (in engine/ transmission/powersteering) happen due to a rubber gasket hardening. while yes, as with all parts in mostly everything, you will have to replace the part @some point. but that could be 1yr, 2yrs, 5yrs 10yrs down the road. who knows if you'll even still have the car by then? so IT IS (imo) worth it to, at the very least, pick up a $20 bottle of sealant to see if it solves your issue. ESPECIALLY if it is a minor leak. you might've been out of fluid, but the PS reservoir is not big to begin with and who knows how long it's been leaking. point is, it could be a minor leak and a $20 fix. there are crappy sealants out there, but AT-205 RE-SEALANT is a great product for any of the 3 i listed above. good luck
@@mikeTHEmanateeI drive old cars and loathe that people actually do what you have described. I wish they would ban that stuff entirely. It's definitely not illegal and its your car but it's a mechanics nightmare explaining that the previous owner filled the system with an unknown substance.
Do you happen to have a video of you changing out the rack and pinion on this Honda? I don't have the funds for a mechanic so I have to do it myself. I have to keep my son safe.....Just a mom trying to learn all I can do keep us safe and have a running car....thank you
Bro you gotta show a plan B for those who want to fix their power steering leak without spending $$$. A brand new steering rack is good, original honda fluid is good. But what if we dont want to spend? Is there a DIY without having to buy parts?
Honda engine, as simple as that, thats the cause because everything leaks, even the water around the cylinderblock channels leaks into the cylinder and evaporates, such a genius design of water channels that corrodes, sorry guys, a very bad experience in honda
As I mentioned in my comment, I'll say the Oil Pressure Switch. VTEC Solenoid Filter Assembly (the gasket) is too obvious, and when that goes, it puts oil all over the back side of the engine. Since the oil filter looked clean, and there weren't any drips or puddling of oil on the frame and control arm assemblies, but just on the rubber boot over the OPS, I'll go with that. It leaks too, but I've found not as bad as the VTEC Solenoid Filter Assy.
Great video, reminded me why i hate Honda, coz my first ever car was a civic, which made me in and out into repair shops, came in here to see a problem in power steering on a friends 2000 crv, hope it will be just a washer
Thanks man .. got a chance to identify a power steering fluid leak I have near my front driver’s side tire while I had my splash guard off (just fixed my AC on my own for the first time and had the bumper + splash guard off so figured I’d check other parts of the car too while they were exposed). Probably just saved me some headaches in the future. Interestingly, the power steering fluid level is holding and doesn’t seem to be leaking at all; the level’s been the same for months and there aren’t ever any puddles I notice underneath. Not exactly sure why I still see fluid everywhere on the parts underneath as if it’s leaking though
Exactly what my 2001 Honda Accord experiences now! The OEM rack and pinion is a major rip off. Got an aftermarket one for $180. Will try to replace it. I replace an aftermarket power steering pump and it dramatically reduce the leak. Old pump was bad as well. I am looking to replace the power steering pressure switch as well.
My mechanic told me same thing , and around 1100cad with parts and labor, too much for an 04 accord. I just top it off with power steering fluid every 3-4 weeks. Been 6 months , cost me $3/month
I just replaced the whole rack on mine with a VisionOE BBB Reman and wish now I'd just rebuilt the Honda one. The reman one immediately started making a pop sound at low speeds and the left inner tie rod boot has ps fluid leaking from it... very frustrated right now.
There is good aftermarket stuff out there , you just have to investigate a little bit. My boot was gushing PS fluid and had to go but I got an aftermarket product and it seems to be working good , zero leaks, a year after. This usually happens to older cars so the expense of putting in a brand new OEA on a car that has limited years on it does not make sense at all. The diff can be as much as 300+ so keep and open mind.
I happen to be going to see my mechanic tomorrow morning exactly for this specific problem (as well as a few others), so this is an "absolute must watch" video for me. The problem I have is exactly as you have described, the kind of winding noise that increases when the steering turns. I had already changed the high pressure hoses on top, but the power steering fluid is still going down. Your video will certainly help as I will be discussing it with my mechanic tomorrow. Thank you and keep up the good work .... for those of us who are concerned but lack the technical knowledge and skills. Cheers bro.
@@beyondinfinitelove13 NO don't use any other type of fliud even temperarily as it can ruin your whole system. Only use Honda power steering fluid or regret it.
I have a leak but I think it might be the O-rings by the powersteering. Hopefully thats all it is and where I am going to start. The reason why I say this is because the pump is dirty and covered in fluid.......
hi Big Dog really like your video and how you present the information in a easily understandable way. When you say "change the rack" are you talking about changing the whole steering rack n pinion ?
I wish you kept going. I have a leak and it seems like it's coming from a white container at the bottom of my car. I was putting on underglow and I watched it leak the entire time I had the car jacked. I'm waiting for my guy to confirm this before I buy anything, but he keeps putting it off saying he can't jack the car high enough. I know at least one place this is leaking from and I just want this fixed, but no video I am watching talks about this thing I'm seeing. I don't know what it's called, so I can't replace it. I thought it was the reservoir, but I can't imagine it being that because everywhere I look it seems that the 8th gen civic reservoir isn't actually that big. Not big enough to reach down to the bottom of the car anyway. This white canister I can see from the bottom of my car, it sits close to all the tubes and it just leaks all my power fluid.
I understand the best way *to avoid the well-known & expensive Honda steering rock failure* is to keep up on your fluid replacement regimen. Steering rack failure is a drag, requiring a tow and losing your car for a few days! Old, dirty fluid will accelerate the wear of your seals, so *replacing the fluid every 3 or so years is pretty cheap!* Either: - Drain and replace - this method involves opening the system. (Ask your garage to do this and ATF changes) - or else pull all the fluid from the reservoir (turkey baster) and replace it a few times, running the system each time it has fluid. This is the less-than- perfect 'dilution method' but avoids disturbing the connections & is still FAR better than ignoring fluid changes until the rack fails (costing you a thousand dollars.)
I had the same problem all I did is change the boot u dont have replace the whole rack and pinion unless both side are leaking bad second u could buy remanufactured oem rack and pinion for less
The boot only stops dust and debris from effecting joint, the seals inside the rack are what stop fluid from coming out. New racks are hard to find after the vehicle has aged, most racks (even from Honda) are remanufactured units.
My return lines are damp both right where they connect to the plastic reservoir. Can I just swap out those two hoses myself? Makes noise and air bubbles in fluid when it’s cold out.
When i turn the steering the fluid in the resovior doesn't really do anything like bubble up. It seems as if its moving through the lines tho but slowly. Also when I press on the gas pedal while the car in park and the engine is running the steering feels more softer but when I ease up it gets back hard. Why is that? Do i need a pump or does it needs bleeding?. One more thing, the fluid levels remain the same.
The first time I experienced steering issues and looked under the hood, I found that a part of the serpentine belt had been completely stripped off. I could have just removed the stripped part, but it seems like something cut the belt. The car also shut off before the belt issue occurred. Therefore, it seems to me that the problem is related to the belt. I replaced that belt now with a slightly longer belt, and the issue persists
My father in law had a power steering leak on his car (2004 Accord). I found it was the upper hose leaking from the pump to the rack. Thing was a BITCH to fish through to the rack, but after a little patience and a lot of cussing, I got it on. My sister in law had low fluid last week. I just happen to hear it when she was leaving and told her to leave it. I didn’t look underneath, but I saw a little oil behind the pump. I changed the Oring on the hose and topped it off. If that doesn’t fix it, I’ll take a better look at, but I’m wondering if I won’t have to rebuild that pump. Is it difficult to do? She has a 2007 Accord.
@@BigDog50001 Hopefully that oring fixed it, but I get the seal kit if necessary and go from there with it. Pretty sure it needs a NSS right now, though lol. Thanks for the reply.
Using Honda accessories exclusively is in an ideal world. In my country it is very difficult to find original Honda replacements even oils and fluids, we have to look for after market. But if we go to the dealer, it is possible to find some, but with a value five times higher, or usually they don't have them, wey have yo wait three months, it's very complicated. And Honda is a common brand in my country.
I've removed reservoir and cleaned it, then replaced the rubber hoses, and it still leaks from somewhere.... I'll have to get under the car for an hour to see if I can find it. Honda Accord 08. A few years ago I had rack replacement Napa. I wonder if there's a lifetime warranty
So it was the tie rod leak? Had nothing to do with the power steering line??? I'm leaking in the middle underneath that car in between the tie rods. Long medal piece is all wet. What is that piece call ? That's connected to the pinned
Great vid! where did you have it repaired? @ honda dealership? Is it possible to get a honda power steering rack at aftermarket shops? I will guess the engine oil leak on the side of the engine is a worn o-ring on CPK (crankshaft position) sensor?
What’s that return line at the bottom next to the compressor and all that called ? Mines got a hole in it I don’t know what that peice is called nor can I find a video on it
I replaced my power steering pump on my Honda Accord 2002 but the winding came back after about a couple weeks. I'm suspecting it's not the pump. The fluid does go low after about a month too. The winding/grinding goes away for a few days but comes back again. Any ideas? Rack and pinion maybe? It makes the noise even with fluid in there. I smell a burn smell at times from the reservoir. - This video is amazing! Thank you. I will check underneath at the ti-rods. edited: - My guess with the oil leak is that the oil filter SEAL came off and when the oil filter was replaced the person replacing the oil filter placed the new oil filter over the used oil filter seal. OR whom ever replaced the timing belt didn't replace the seal and it started leaking oil at the timing belt area. That happened to my Honda Civic 01. Now I have to have a mechanic fix the oil leak and replace the timing belt again.
Buying Honda parts, especially the power steering pump for my 08 Accord is $650 dollars directly from a dealership including the core price. I can't afford this crazy amount of money for a simple power steering. I bought one from NAPA, hopefully, it will work flawlessly for the next 2 years.
@@BigDog50001 Thanks Big Dog, funny I just replaced mine about 2 weeks ago. Mechanic shop wanted $1400. I did it for the cost of the VTEC Solenoid. Now the Rack and Pinion seems to have gone out. At least it's leaking from there. Time to buy a new car.
I have a 2004 acura tax and cannot find the leak from the steering pump onto my alternator. No issues with my pump really and fluid isn’t really ever that low. So it’s a small leak. Any suggestions? Maybe change all the seals in the pump first before I buy and install a new one?
Hard to say without seeing it but the seals on Honda power steering pumps generally start to leak by that age. The fluid will usually start to deteriorate drive belts if left on them.
05 accord 4 cylinder ,Mines been leaking very little from the eternal seals like the video showed at 1:00 only had to top off once within the last 2 weeks very tiny leak but today I popped the hood and noticed alot of power steering fluid coming out the top of the resivior with a lot of small bubbles do I need to replace the power steering pump immediately or can I still drive for a couple more days because I don't get paid till Friday and I drive around 100 miles a day Ps forgot to add, this is my only car
Did you find out about that oil leak? I came to this video to learn about the power steering noise, but upon changing my oil today, I noticed the same leak in the same spot!
thanks for this video. I had a leak with my Honda Element at an O ring area. I replaced that and now no leak there or at the reservoir. But there is still a leak more towards the middle and back of the engine. I can see it under the car and also on the frame. I will check those boots where you just found the leak on this car and see if that is it.
I would top off the steering fluid first (with Honda fluid only), a low fluid level on a component can sometimes lead to finding a leak but not always. I generally start from bottom and work up to find the cause of the leak, sometimes it is necessary to clean up everything good to find it. Leaks have a way of running across an engine/transmission like a plinko ball so it can be difficult sometimes.
Also have the same problem with our family car (Honda CRV 2003). Will need to bring the car to the dealership again in the Philippines. I'm curious how much will the dealership charge me for the power steering leak. It's been months that I'd top up the fluid before driving out.
Hey bro I have the same problem with my 2003 Honda accord my driver side boot has oil on it coming from the inner on rock auto they don’t sell the whole piece together they sell the outer the inner and the boot all separately I know it’s not Honda OEM but I’m only gonna have this car for another year so I’m not too worried about it should I just buy the boot and the inner tie rod?
If you suck the oil out of the reservoir and replace it with Honda P.S. fluid every time you change the eng. oil you will put that reair off for a long time.
@@Bongs_and_Banquets I own one of these cars, they don't come with k20a. Besides, if you look at the video, on the valve cap cover, it states it right there. I-vtec 2.4 dohc. 🙂
i just changed my power steering pump for a civic 06 LX 1.8 but afre 2 days there seems to be a leak but im not sure if the high pressure hose connector with an oil seal or the bearing of the pump itself is leaking. any tips? thank you
I would clean it up and try to pinpoint leak. If the o-rings on hoses were not replaced when it was installed I would replace them with new ones. If it is a used or rebuilt pump, it may have been leaking or not rebuilt correctly before you installed it.
I just replaced the high pressure line myself. It was very hard to get the nut loose where the metal line connects to the power assist and steering column (I think that's what you call it??). Once I was done installing, I added Prestone power steering fluid, but left the cap off of the resivoir so that I could see if I needed to add more. Yet, the result was that there was now a mess of fluid all over the place including the passenger headlight, all of the parts within 2 feet of the resivoir and pump. As I pulled out, the steering made a lot of noise. Then, I got to the corner of my street as the noise stopped but the steering no longer had any assist whatsoever. After going to the auto parts store to get a full quart of real Honda fluid, I found a puddle underneath.
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Quick question I just had power steering wheel pump replaced and is still leaking the pump is brand new
Been driving my Honda without power steering fluid for over 3 years. Got tired of putting fluid every month. To this day I just man handle the steering wheel like my grandfather did back in the 1920’s. If some one tries to steal my ride, which I doubt would happen, it’s manual, with no 2nd gear and no power steering.
Damn a challenge 😭u cool though
@@bintreshin3545 as long as A/C works, I am blessed
@@Denver_____ not lying brother. Hahahaha ac its a must have
You're crazy. 😅 Jk. I'm not proud of this, but I don't know how to drive a stick. I Know how and I have drove before, but easier to say I don't know how.
i laughed at this way harder than i should have
Excellent demonstration of tracking down a leak. Good explanations.
Thank you!
I agree, you showed me how to be patient and just track it down, it has to be going somewhere. I found it. I fixed it for nothing. And I already ordered a new pump. I’ll send it back. Maybe I’ll keep it because it is an old car you never know I’ll probably need it sooner or later… but that’s me always assuming the worst. The moral of the story, start simple. Thank you again.
Thanks man. You're the true heroes of the internet.
No need to guess what the oil leak was. It was the Oil Pressure Switch. I've gotten to know the Hondas quite well over the last couple years. I bought my granddaughter an '03 CR-V, and I bought an '01 Accord EX 3.0L last year as a hobby car/weekend ride. It never fails with the 2.4L. I finally got all the oil leaks fixed, and replaced the alternator (what a production to even get to the darn thing!), and just noticed yesterday that granddaughter's PS pump is now leaking. It looks like it's coming from the fittings. Going to try and replace the O rings in the return and high pressure connections to see if that fixes it. If not, I can get a reman'ed OEM pump and put it in.
This video covers older conventional power steering systems with power steering fluid and an engine driven pump. Newer systems use Electrical Power Steering (EPS), which uses an electric motor to assist with steering force instead of fluid and a pump. I do not talk about EPS in this video.
Great Video! Thank you!
Very informative video 👍. Thank goodness my leak isn’t at the boot. It’s leaking at the bottom connection of the pressure line and made quite a mess around there.
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I would love to see how you changed out the rack...
First you unbuttoned the blouse.
Me too
I seen 1 removed its hard labor
great video. Loads of information. Thank you sir...
You bet 👍!
There doesn't seem to be a power steering cooling sub-system for these K-Series Hondas. I don't have one in my Element whereas all the other cars I have owned over the years had something along the lines of a cooling loop in front of the main radiator or a mini-radiator or even a loop inside the bottom tank of the main radiator.
Excellent video with amazing detail which I learnt a lot from. I'm glad you mentioned that you only use Honda power steering fluid and also only Honda parts. My 2000 Acura TL 3.2 power steering fluid is leaking. A friend said go to a local mechanic, and some people on the internet said to use stop leak and that non Honda power steering fluid is safe. After your great video and other sites that also suggested only use Acura power steering fluid, I have decided to have my nearby Acura dealer fix it. After your video and a few other videos I know that it isn't the O-ring and not the rubber steering boot below and no strange sounds when turning the steering, and no over flowing fluid bubbling out of the reservoir, which never went dry thankfully, I figure that it's likely just the power steering hoses need replacing, which is expensive however a lot less expensive that changing the power steering pump. I'm thankful I didn't try stop leak or other makes fluid as it can wreak the whole system.
Dealership rape u, it’s Honda find good mechanic :))))
Great bonus footage
THANK YOU for this video. My Honda dealer showed me this exact leak and told me I needed a whole new rack. I didn't believe him. Thought he was just trying to make extra money off of me but you said the very same thing so I guess I'm getting a new rack.
How much did they quote you, if you don’t mind me asking? I have the same problem or so I think.
Same as me
Hopefully some people see this and are enlightened. For years now, the dealerships have become parts re-placers and not parts repairers. The total solution is always we need to replace this, Repair, never enters the conversation.
just so you know, most leaks (in engine/ transmission/powersteering) happen due to a rubber gasket hardening. while yes, as with all parts in mostly everything, you will have to replace the part @some point. but that could be 1yr, 2yrs, 5yrs 10yrs down the road. who knows if you'll even still have the car by then? so IT IS (imo) worth it to, at the very least, pick up a $20 bottle of sealant to see if it solves your issue. ESPECIALLY if it is a minor leak. you might've been out of fluid, but the PS reservoir is not big to begin with and who knows how long it's been leaking. point is, it could be a minor leak and a $20 fix. there are crappy sealants out there, but AT-205 RE-SEALANT is a great product for any of the 3 i listed above.
good luck
@@mikeTHEmanateeI drive old cars and loathe that people actually do what you have described. I wish they would ban that stuff entirely. It's definitely not illegal and its your car but it's a mechanics nightmare explaining that the previous owner filled the system with an unknown substance.
Do you happen to have a video of you changing out the rack and pinion on this Honda? I don't have the funds for a mechanic so I have to do it myself. I have to keep my son safe.....Just a mom trying to learn all I can do keep us safe and have a running car....thank you
Bro you gotta show a plan B for those who want to fix their power steering leak without spending $$$.
A brand new steering rack is good, original honda fluid is good. But what if we dont want to spend?
Is there a DIY without having to buy parts?
I wish, but any cheap fix will not last unfortunately and usually ends up costing more in the end after it has to be fixed a second time.
@@jr217r the boot only protects from dirt getting in if it's leaking from the seal it'll still leak
Any guesses on what the Engine Oil Leak was? (Not the power steering leak)
VTEC control valve/solenoid
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Honda engine, as simple as that, thats the cause because everything leaks, even the water around the cylinderblock channels leaks into the cylinder and evaporates, such a genius design of water channels that corrodes, sorry guys, a very bad experience in honda
I sure would like to know what the other oul leak was?
As I mentioned in my comment, I'll say the Oil Pressure Switch. VTEC Solenoid Filter Assembly (the gasket) is too obvious, and when that goes, it puts oil all over the back side of the engine. Since the oil filter looked clean, and there weren't any drips or puddling of oil on the frame and control arm assemblies, but just on the rubber boot over the OPS, I'll go with that. It leaks too, but I've found not as bad as the VTEC Solenoid Filter Assy.
Nice diag and repair. That looked like a fun job to change that rack.my guess would be the vtec solenoid was leaking.
Thanks Jonathan!
Great video, reminded me why i hate Honda, coz my first ever car was a civic, which made me in and out into repair shops, came in here to see a problem in power steering on a friends 2000 crv, hope it will be just a washer
Thanks man .. got a chance to identify a power steering fluid leak I have near my front driver’s side tire while I had my splash guard off (just fixed my AC on my own for the first time and had the bumper + splash guard off so figured I’d check other parts of the car too while they were exposed). Probably just saved me some headaches in the future. Interestingly, the power steering fluid level is holding and doesn’t seem to be leaking at all; the level’s been the same for months and there aren’t ever any puddles I notice underneath. Not exactly sure why I still see fluid everywhere on the parts underneath as if it’s leaking though
CV axel leaking transmission/differential fluid. I pour 1oz of uv dye to rule out engine oil/ps oil/trans oil
nice video, I appreciate it, thx! I'm going to check now to see if you have a video regarding how to find and fix oil leaks in a honda odyssey 2005.
Exactly what my 2001 Honda Accord experiences now! The OEM rack and pinion is a major rip off. Got an aftermarket one for $180. Will try to replace it. I replace an aftermarket power steering pump and it dramatically reduce the leak. Old pump was bad as well. I am looking to replace the power steering pressure switch as well.
My mechanic told me same thing , and around 1100cad with parts and labor, too much for an 04 accord. I just top it off with power steering fluid every 3-4 weeks. Been 6 months , cost me $3/month
Sometimes a slower leak can go like that for a while but many times it will start leaking badly and it will lose all the fluid very quickly.
Excellent explanation for steering oil leak investigation. ❤❤thumbs up 😂😂
Thanks 👍!
An exciting mystery episode with a satisfying "whodunnit"!
I love a good mystery lol!
how much did it cost you for the repair excluding the engine oil leak
So my question is has anyone actually replaced the rack seal instead of replacing the whole rack??
I just replaced the whole rack on mine with a VisionOE BBB Reman and wish now I'd just rebuilt the Honda one. The reman one immediately started making a pop sound at low speeds and the left inner tie rod boot has ps fluid leaking from it... very frustrated right now.
mrau92me i got my original honda rack rebuild with a year warranty and it’s working great!! Aftermarket racks do no good in hondas
@@abhijeetsingh1429 My 97 Accord did fine with an aftermarket unit. Where'd you get your Honda reman unit?
There is good aftermarket stuff out there , you just have to investigate a little bit. My boot was gushing PS fluid and had to go but I got an aftermarket product and it seems to be working good , zero leaks, a year after. This usually happens to older cars so the expense of putting in a brand new OEA on a car that has limited years on it does not make sense at all. The diff can be as much as 300+ so keep and open mind.
What is a ball park price to fix and replace the rack?
I happen to be going to see my mechanic tomorrow morning exactly for this specific problem (as well as a few others), so this is an "absolute must watch" video for me. The problem I have is exactly as you have described, the kind of winding noise that increases when the steering turns. I had already changed the high pressure hoses on top, but the power steering fluid is still going down. Your video will certainly help as I will be discussing it with my mechanic tomorrow. Thank you and keep up the good work .... for those of us who are concerned but lack the technical knowledge and skills. Cheers bro.
Thank you, I appreciate the comment!
@Ravi Menon hey! Was your issue resolved? I’m facing the same issues
It's ok to put some oil and take to mechanic. Or tow my car I have same problem
Do you remember how much it cost to fix it. I’m taking my 2003 Honda Pilot in tomorrow for this exact problem and I’m trying to get an estimate
@@beyondinfinitelove13 NO don't use any other type of fliud even temperarily as it can ruin your whole system. Only use Honda power steering fluid or regret it.
I have a leak but I think it might be the O-rings by the powersteering. Hopefully thats all it is and where I am going to start.
The reason why I say this is because the pump is dirty and covered in fluid.......
how much does that repair cost? I had a hose repaired but it's power steering container thing is empty again and there's a clicking sound
Whats the cost of a rack and pinion replacement? :(
I think the engine oil leaks from the vtec gasket..
Thanks for the comment!
How much did the rack cost?
What about if it’s leaking in the boot?
i wish you coulp upload a video showing how to fix it cuz i have the same problem thank you for your video
Do you know the model or power steering pump number in this video? I would like one
Good video. Really show how to be thorough.
What is that rubber piece called right in the middle of the hoses? Pause your video at 2:04 and you'll see it.
what was the oil leak? I have oil in same place.... Vtec solenoid?
Yes, good guess!
Engine oil leak from vetc selanoide cause i have same leaking
Good guess!
hi Big Dog really like your video and how you present the information in a easily understandable way. When you say "change the rack" are you talking about changing the whole steering rack n pinion ?
Yes, replace the entire power steering rack with a Honda rebuilt unit. Very common on Hondas 15-20 years old.
Thanks for the comment!
@@BigDog50001 thank you for the clarificiation and the reply🔥👍
I have an 07 civic ex. But notice the rack and pinion leak after putting the vehicle on the jack stand
I wish you kept going. I have a leak and it seems like it's coming from a white container at the bottom of my car. I was putting on underglow and I watched it leak the entire time I had the car jacked. I'm waiting for my guy to confirm this before I buy anything, but he keeps putting it off saying he can't jack the car high enough. I know at least one place this is leaking from and I just want this fixed, but no video I am watching talks about this thing I'm seeing. I don't know what it's called, so I can't replace it. I thought it was the reservoir, but I can't imagine it being that because everywhere I look it seems that the 8th gen civic reservoir isn't actually that big. Not big enough to reach down to the bottom of the car anyway. This white canister I can see from the bottom of my car, it sits close to all the tubes and it just leaks all my power fluid.
I understand the best way *to avoid the well-known & expensive Honda steering rock failure* is to keep up on your fluid replacement regimen. Steering rack failure is a drag, requiring a tow and losing your car for a few days!
Old, dirty fluid will accelerate the wear of your seals, so *replacing the fluid every 3 or so years is pretty cheap!* Either:
- Drain and replace - this method involves opening the system. (Ask your garage to do this and ATF changes)
- or else pull all the fluid from the reservoir (turkey baster) and replace it a few times, running the system each time it has fluid. This is the less-than- perfect 'dilution method' but avoids disturbing the connections & is still FAR better than ignoring fluid changes until the rack fails (costing you a thousand dollars.)
Thanks for the input! Here is a video I did on servicing Honda power steering fluid: th-cam.com/video/jhIdhffMl5c/w-d-xo.html
Well said. Thank you for posting.
I had the same problem all I did is change the boot u dont have replace the whole rack and pinion unless both side are leaking bad second u could buy remanufactured oem rack and pinion for less
The boot only stops dust and debris from effecting joint, the seals inside the rack are what stop fluid from coming out. New racks are hard to find after the vehicle has aged, most racks (even from Honda) are remanufactured units.
I have the same power steering leak, on average what would a job like this cost.
Call shops and get an estimate...
My return lines are damp both right where they connect to the plastic reservoir. Can I just swap out those two hoses myself? Makes noise and air bubbles in fluid when it’s cold out.
When i turn the steering the fluid in the resovior doesn't really do anything like bubble up. It seems as if its moving through the lines tho but slowly. Also when I press on the gas pedal while the car in park and the engine is running the steering feels more softer but when I ease up it gets back hard. Why is that? Do i need a pump or does it needs bleeding?. One more thing, the fluid levels remain the same.
The first time I experienced steering issues and looked under the hood, I found that a part of the serpentine belt had been completely stripped off. I could have just removed the stripped part, but it seems like something cut the belt. The car also shut off before the belt issue occurred. Therefore, it seems to me that the problem is related to the belt. I replaced that belt now with a slightly longer belt, and the issue persists
My father in law had a power steering leak on his car (2004 Accord). I found it was the upper hose leaking from the pump to the rack. Thing was a BITCH to fish through to the rack, but after a little patience and a lot of cussing, I got it on.
My sister in law had low fluid last week. I just happen to hear it when she was leaving and told her to leave it. I didn’t look underneath, but I saw a little oil behind the pump. I changed the Oring on the hose and topped it off. If that doesn’t fix it, I’ll take a better look at, but I’m wondering if I won’t have to rebuild that pump. Is it difficult to do? She has a 2007 Accord.
Leaking pumps are not too difficult to take apart and fix. Thanks for the comment!
@@BigDog50001 Hopefully that oring fixed it, but I get the seal kit if necessary and go from there with it. Pretty sure it needs a NSS right now, though lol. Thanks for the reply.
PLEASE HELP!! WHICH OIL GOES ?? I HAVE ACCORD CL7 2003
Vtc actuator was the oil leak?
I have an extremely slow 2011 accord power steering leak. Any recommendations to stop it ?
Stop leak might patch it up since it’s small
Using Honda accessories exclusively is in an ideal world. In my country it is very difficult to find original Honda replacements even oils and fluids, we have to look for after market. But if we go to the dealer, it is possible to find some, but with a value five times higher, or usually they don't have them, wey have yo wait three months, it's very complicated. And Honda is a common brand in my country.
There’re red n black ring which go in to which ?
Any idea of where to obtain a 2006 rsx rack & pinion?
I've removed reservoir and cleaned it, then replaced the rubber hoses, and it still leaks from somewhere.... I'll have to get under the car for an hour to see if I can find it. Honda Accord 08. A few years ago I had rack replacement Napa. I wonder if there's a lifetime warranty
My 2003 Honda Accord with 240k is leaking where the driver boot is. I'm thinking about replacing the rack.
Very common at that age and mileage.
I wanna see how you fixed it step by step.
@BigDog50001 Did you do a video on the replacement of the steering rack?
My tsx is 07 with just over 100k on it, got this exact problem yesterday but it's leaking on the driver boot, and the fluid was very low.
Pretty common issue and no fun when it happens.
how much was the fix do you know?
i have an 07 tsx with 190k mileage
Great video, thanks big dog 🐕 👍
You bet 👍!
So it was the tie rod leak? Had nothing to do with the power steering line??? I'm leaking in the middle underneath that car in between the tie rods. Long medal piece is all wet. What is that piece call ? That's connected to the pinned
Great vid! where did you have it repaired? @ honda dealership?
Is it possible to get a honda power steering rack at aftermarket shops?
I will guess the engine oil leak on the side of the engine is a worn o-ring on CPK (crankshaft position) sensor?
There are non dealer repair shops that will use factory parts, just have to ask. The engine oil leak was at the VTEC solenoid.
What’s that return line at the bottom next to the compressor and all that called ? Mines got a hole in it I don’t know what that peice is called nor can I find a video on it
I replaced my power steering pump on my Honda Accord 2002 but the winding came back after about a couple weeks. I'm suspecting it's not the pump. The fluid does go low after about a month too. The winding/grinding goes away for a few days but comes back again. Any ideas? Rack and pinion maybe? It makes the noise even with fluid in there. I smell a burn smell at times from the reservoir.
- This video is amazing! Thank you. I will check underneath at the ti-rods.
edited:
- My guess with the oil leak is that the oil filter SEAL came off and when the oil filter was replaced the person replacing the oil filter placed the new oil filter over the used oil filter seal. OR whom ever replaced the timing belt didn't replace the seal and it started leaking oil at the timing belt area. That happened to my Honda Civic 01. Now I have to have a mechanic fix the oil leak and replace the timing belt again.
check the 2 Power steering O rings
How much does this repair cost?
What exactly is power steering rack? Is that another name for pump?
Buying Honda parts, especially the power steering pump for my 08 Accord is $650 dollars directly from a dealership including the core price. I can't afford this crazy amount of money for a simple power steering. I bought one from NAPA, hopefully, it will work flawlessly for the next 2 years.
Are going to tell us what the oil leak was from? Thank you for the video
It has been a while since I filmed this but if I remember correctly it was the VTEC solenoid. Thanks for the comment!
@@BigDog50001 Thanks Big Dog, funny I just replaced mine about 2 weeks ago. Mechanic shop wanted $1400. I did it for the cost of the VTEC Solenoid. Now the Rack and Pinion seems to have gone out. At least it's leaking from there. Time to buy a new car.
It's ok to put some oil and take to mechanic. Or tow my car I have same problem
What if I see fluid on the boot, but the power steering reservoir is full? What is that fluid?
I have a 2004 acura tax and cannot find the leak from the steering pump onto my alternator. No issues with my pump really and fluid isn’t really ever that low. So it’s a small leak. Any suggestions? Maybe change all the seals in the pump first before I buy and install a new one?
Hard to say without seeing it but the seals on Honda power steering pumps generally start to leak by that age. The fluid will usually start to deteriorate drive belts if left on them.
05 accord 4 cylinder ,Mines been leaking very little from the eternal seals like the video showed at 1:00 only had to top off once within the last 2 weeks very tiny leak but today I popped the hood and noticed alot of power steering fluid coming out the top of the resivior with a lot of small bubbles do I need to replace the power steering pump immediately or can I still drive for a couple more days because I don't get paid till Friday and I drive around 100 miles a day
Ps forgot to add, this is my only car
which year Odyssey? where is video to replace rack?
Did you find out about that oil leak? I came to this video to learn about the power steering noise, but upon changing my oil today, I noticed the same leak in the same spot!
Vtech solenoid gaskets (spool valve filter). Very common leak on many Hondas.
@@BigDog50001 thanks!
@@BigDog50001are those easy to replace. I have that issue with mine
How much approx is an OEM power steering pump on this model? How much did this job cost with labour?
Ayoub Farid too much. Several hundred
Ayoub Farid around 800 a one sided I call for Civic join the tell me 1000 each one
What was the oil leak??
thanks for this video. I had a leak with my Honda Element at an O ring area. I replaced that and now no leak there or at the reservoir. But there is still a leak more towards the middle and back of the engine. I can see it under the car and also on the frame. I will check those boots where you just found the leak on this car and see if that is it.
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I have some small drops of red looking fluid under my honda element 2006 and the power steering is low what do I need to do?
I would top off the steering fluid first (with Honda fluid only), a low fluid level on a component can sometimes lead to finding a leak but not always. I generally start from bottom and work up to find the cause of the leak, sometimes it is necessary to clean up everything good to find it. Leaks have a way of running across an engine/transmission like a plinko ball so it can be difficult sometimes.
How much is this repair?
Also have the same problem with our family car (Honda CRV 2003). Will need to bring the car to the dealership again in the Philippines. I'm curious how much will the dealership charge me for the power steering leak. It's been months that I'd top up the fluid before driving out.
Good video
Thanks!
what kind of noise do uou heat if the power steering oil is gone??
Hey bro I have the same problem with my 2003 Honda accord my driver side boot has oil on it coming from the inner on rock auto they don’t sell the whole piece together they sell the outer the inner and the boot all separately I know it’s not Honda OEM but I’m only gonna have this car for another year so I’m not too worried about it should I just buy the boot and the inner tie rod?
new boots and tie rods will not stop a power steering leak, it is the seals going bad that generally cause leaks at the rack.
Would you suggest oem salvage rack and pinion?
Typically no because they will most likely have the same issues. They have a high failure rate after a certain age.
Can you change rack and pinion in ur Accord 8th gen?
what light do you use when checking for leaks?thanks
I typically just use one of my Astro 40SL lights, the thin profile and bright light work well in most cases.
Thanks you are the big and the best
Thanks!
Your VTEC solenoid is leaking mine was also
If you suck the oil out of the reservoir and replace it with Honda P.S. fluid every time you change the eng. oil you will put that reair off for a long time.
Thanks for the input!
Can you advise what was the oil leak. I searched all the comments and could not find. Mine has the same issue in that spot. Thank you!
could be worn out piston rings
great video thanks
No problem 👍!
vtec solenoid gasket seal. those k24 suffer from that. Just need to change the seal
Thanks for the input!
first of all it’s a k20a 🤣
@@Bongs_and_Banquets I own one of these cars, they don't come with k20a. Besides, if you look at the video, on the valve cap cover, it states it right there. I-vtec 2.4 dohc. 🙂
Ever try power steering fluid with leak stop? Is that stuff worth a shot or junk?
I don't use anything with stop leak. It usually causes more damage in the long run.
Is it worth trying Bars Leak or other sealer?
I do not recommend using any type of sealer.
i just changed my power steering pump for a civic 06 LX 1.8 but afre 2 days there seems to be a leak but im not sure if the high pressure hose connector with an oil seal or the bearing of the pump itself is leaking. any tips? thank you
I would clean it up and try to pinpoint leak. If the o-rings on hoses were not replaced when it was installed I would replace them with new ones. If it is a used or rebuilt pump, it may have been leaking or not rebuilt correctly before you installed it.
how much would a fix like this cost?
I just replaced the high pressure line myself. It was very hard to get the nut loose where the metal line connects to the power assist and steering column (I think that's what you call it??). Once I was done installing, I added Prestone power steering fluid, but left the cap off of the resivoir so that I could see if I needed to add more. Yet, the result was that there was now a mess of fluid all over the place including the passenger headlight, all of the parts within 2 feet of the resivoir and pump. As I pulled out, the steering made a lot of noise. Then, I got to the corner of my street as the noise stopped but the steering no longer had any assist whatsoever. After going to the auto parts store to get a full quart of real Honda fluid, I found a puddle underneath.
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