TOPGUN Instructors React to 'Top Gun: Maverick'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2022
- Fighter Pilot Podcast host and former TOPGUN instructor, Vincent "Jell-O" Aiello and past podcast guests and fellow TOPGUN instructors Andy "Grand" Mariner (episode 7), Dave "Chip" Berke (59), and Jim "Jambo" Ray (143) review Top Gun: Maverick immediately following a private screening in San Diego, Calif.
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My wife and I went and saw this last night and we both walked out ready to return to see it again. What I loved was the human component between Iceman and Maverick. Val Kilmer made the movie even though his role was minimal in terms of being on screen. May I ad, Jennifer Connelly is just plain gorgeous.
Good to see Iceman back
Oh, you will watch it again! I made the mistake of being over anxious and watched it at the nearest theater which didn't have an IMAX screen. I am telling all my friends about this fantastic movie!
Jennifer Connelly is a smokeshow forever.
@@nobodysunderdog I was let down by my local theater with the volume level, it was too quiet. Does imax do better and shake the theater?
@@poopsandwichessss I guess you never saw her in ROCKETEER.
Yes she has retained her good looks but is withering away.
As a civilian, I found this discussion so interesting hearing how you all saw the movie through pilot eyes. Thank you for your service.
Couldn't say it better than that.
Kitchen...now
How long have you been a civilian for? Asking for a friend
It’s like they are speaking a different language I can barely keep up but I love it
Not thanking them because Im not American... but so cool & admirable!
From an old RAF F4 pilot I listened in absolute awe at those guys talking. They were all the epitome of professionalism, all hugely capable for sure but also showing striking humility! Thank you. Really enjoyable
Buccaneer’s and F4’s - my favourites! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
RAF vs. AAF, no real competition is there, Sir?
@@da_great_mogul No because were allies 🙄
Peter
@@da_great_mogul *USAF.
This was genuinely the best movie i've ever seen. The soundtrack, the acting, the action, the cinematography, the tear jerking moments and the overall aesthetic was next level. IT WAS INSANE, i might go rewatch it this weekend in imax :)))
You must not have seen Aliens and T2 in a movie theater. Let's not confuse kids with men. Aliens and T2 are the greatest sci-fi ever.
Soundtrack? There was hardly any music in the film
@@damianclarkeed6683 forgive him. He needs an education. Pandemic has had a bad effect on the planet. Jaws, Blade Runner, Alien, T and T2, Aliens, Raiders, Sound of Music, Blues Borthers, Penny's from Heave, Purple Rain, Hard Days Night, Mary Poppins, Snow white and Seven Dwarfs, Annie, Pinocchio, Oklahoma, Fidler on the Roof, Hamilton, Lion King, Top Hat, Umbrellas of Cherbourg, Beauty and the Beast, An American in Paris, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Grease, La La Land, Moulin Rouge, All That Jazz, Wizard of Oz, West Side Story (original), Cabaret, Singing in The Rain. Amongst few.
Are you kidding me?? Are you forgetting about Avengers Endgame???
@@defiverr4697 for me the 80s was the best for movies i saw nearly every classic in the cinema as a child nothing beats the 80s
That Maverick’s 2 minute 15 seconds showcase was one of the most badass scenes I have ever seen. Do not cheap out on this one for people who haven’t seen it. Find the biggest IMAX theater you can and experience it the way it should be seen and you won’t regret.
Abram 🎈
Or 4DX theater if you have one.
@@KznnyL Ken💯
Or Dolby. Audio was phenomenal
That scene was the highlight of the whole movie for me
Waited 36 years for this. Many teary eyed moments of nostalgia. BEST MOVIE IV'E EVER SEEN. Also, my seat allocation, F-14.
We had f14 and f15 😆
KOOL !
LOL - I didn't think about it. So I went to my Fandango app as I saw it twice. First week was row E which doesn't count. This week (yesterday), I was seat F-17 in IMAX :)
Northrop YF-17 (and oldie but goodie plane)
Me too...got emotional and watched it back to back...had to get popcorn for the wife for the 2nd time
I just wish that Kelly McGillis had been invited to be in it.
Also, the story became pretty silly at the point where the Russian helicopter was destroyed, saving Mavericks life. But that's okay, it's Top Gun :)
Val kilmer doing this role this far into throat cancer proves just how badass doc will always be🤘🤘🤘 loved this movie
This film is beyond 10 to me. I already watched this movie about 8 times, and keeping buying ticket! Nevery get tired of this movie! Thank god that we have Tom Cruise in our generation.
Thank your for everyone who made this film comes true.
Me too. I watched so many times. The first few minutes is the goosebumps. I guess its the Nostalgic music, Color tones (in some scenes), the bike ride, Ice man etc just compliments the movie in the entirety.
meh
I saw this today with my wife. She hasn’t seen a movie in the theater in 5 years. She’s 60 and I’m 65. We both agree it’s the best move that stirred our emotions in a long long time. We both want to see it again! It’s that good!
Yes this is the best movie i have seen in years. I’m so glad we saw it in theaters and we want to see it again.
Yeah i will see it a second time. It will never be as good on the home tv.
Loved to hear this! Glad you and the Mrs got out and enjoyed yourselves! Makes me proud! You deserve some fun, some emotions, and some more good strong memories together 😊
I fully agree!
Have seen it twice as of yesterday .
I know little to nothing about aviation. But this movie had me in tears from the testosterone aviation sequences, to the story line. This is a TopGun movie! Cant wait to see it again in IMAX! Tom Cruise is the Shiznit!
Maverick is an honourable sequel, to a timeless classic. The memories created and remembered will be done fondly. Realistic and exceeded all expectations.
Love the words "Timeless Classic"
@@sabrecruz6721 definitely
Rewatched the first Top Gun before I went to Maverick and it was so much cringier than I remember.
@@superrotomas LOL exactly, I'm so glad this one didn't have the embarrassing love scene like the first. This one had a couple of issues but it was still very good.
I took my mom to see it at my local IMAX. She took me to see the original when I was a little kid (5th? 6th? grade) and I really loved it. Her father was a WWII pilot. In addition to listening to his stories, and wanting to carry the legacy, Top Gun helped solidify my wanting to be a military pilot too. Sadly corrective vision requirements back in '92 disqualified me. Regardless, I already had been through many hours of GA lessons in my teens, so my love for flying has never wavered. Back to the sequel: I look forward to watching it again, especially when those, like "Jambo" who saw it more than once, said to go see it again.
Lmfao…. Jambo straight up called that guy a dick
This is actually one of nicest and most chilled out group of people I've seen in a long time. They have such a beachy vibe to them. A lot like what youd get living in the areas where penny lives in. For me more than the movie it's this interaction that makes me feel like it's a cool life. I want to spend a few years of my life living in a beach town.
Go to Berlin Maryland you’ll never wanna leave
That fact that it had minimal CGI just made it a great film you, you could actually feel it, often CGI can feel too sterile and devoid of emotion. Top Gun is a Top Film 🍿
It had a TON of CGI. But CGI by itself doesn’t make a movie good or bad; it’s just a tool.
it was loaded with CGI... they just used it intelligently and that kept it all believable
Topgun instructors reacting to Topgun Maverick….The one reaction vid to rule them all.
My grandfather was a 2nd Lieutenant in the Philippine Air Force, back then I'm already inspired flying jets and I'm now considering joining the Military after seeing so many movies that have some touch of realism in them like this one. I love the discussion you had after seeing the movie! Great insight to what I should look out for before I decide joining Military. Thank you for your service!
Just saw your post here.. It’s over a year now since you made the comment. I hope you still have the interest joining the military aviation to serve in the USA if you are.. I’m also was born in Philippines and proud US Navy Dad of a current F18E Superhornet fighter pilot… I wish you luck to be a future fighter pilot too.
The maneuver referred to as “cobra” was called by John Boyd “flatplating the bird”; he taught it to his students in the 50s at USAF Fighter Weapons School.
Something that was a common maneuver on the Saab 35 Draken (J35) aircraft in the Swedish airforce.
It was bell maneuver in movie not cobra
@@cw93711 right, the cobra was the two jets in the circular dive.
Just came out of of Top Gun Maverick and was really impressed! The original was released on May 16th, 1986….and this Sequel finally takes place a mind-blowing THIRTY SIX YEARS LATER! That is truly astounding because the Main Actor Tom Cruise had to be relatable and convincing after all that time in between the two Movies…That is just truly impressive! And Major credit to the Director & Movie for using real life Filming/Shooting Footage and not artificial, now always overdone and boorish CGI! This one needs to get recognized fairly at this Year’s Hollywood Movie Awards! And a Major THANK YIU going out to Jello for putting this informative Panel of varying Fighter Pilots together! Learned a lot from the 4 of you!
In my opinion, the movie was meh. The training scenes and the climax were the only good part. I feel as though much of the drama and romance in the movie was very boring, however, all the flying scenes were amazing.
Hangman's ego was destroyed when Mav did the solo training strike. He literally went..."You gotta be S#!ting me" 🤣
I would say when he didn’t get picked. You could see it on his face.
Unfortunately, it was so predictable...
hangman kinda remind me of mav on topgun 1
@@SPben2308 Except he didn't learn the wingman lesson..
Common, he was marvelous in the resque when they were airborn in that F14. 👍😉👍🇳🇱
Maverick opening up to Iceman, and Iceman never letting up on "talking about work" just did it for me. There were subtleties in there of how deep and unstated their bond was. It's the bond you'd have with your best friend and not even with your wife - to say, hey I'm in trouble, and waiting for the other to tell you everything's gonna be alright.
I love when experts talk about the things they are experts in. Brilliant panel
Went to see it yesterday in IMAX and it delivered and then some. I thought it was better than the original. Tom Cruise is the ultimate Hollywood star and I love how he made it as authentic as possible. I laughed, cried and white knuckled it. That's what great movies are made of. Took me back to my Navy days. It was five stars!
I found it also somehow better than the original. Seen it into a UCI iSens cinema in germany. Some scenes reminded at the original TopGun (86) others around Starwars somehow...the close "trench" run and final shot at the target...does have something like Luke made his shot via X-Wing onto the Death Star...
Overall, great flying action, and Dolby Atmos 3D sound really kicked ass. Enjoyed it much. It made me sad somehow abou Val "Iceman" Kilmer, how he turned old...and died then, into the movie.
I like, that Tom Cruise still is an actor, which does most of his stunts alone. Think Mission Impossible, which also made him famous. He's a real pilot, he does own and fly his propeller based fighter jet plane, he is a real Pilot, and he flew the Aero L-39 with James Cordon...it was way funny to watch, and Tom literaly did what he could best..not only cruising...seriously, wheter one does like Tom or not, he really does have balls, and he's a cool actor, hope to see many cool, interesting movies with Tom Cruise to come....
Not really apples-to-apples. The original was 36 years ago - it's like comparing the air-superiority of the F-14 and the F-22. I hope they make more fighter jet movies, something original. My wife loves fighter jets, I'm going to have to introduce her to Iron Eagle. I'm thinking with the direction of modern warfare, they have to do a historical piece from early the 90s or 2000s. Obviously at some point they'll either remake Top Gun, or if they can't get the rights, reboot it
@@marcp.1752 Too bad he's a crazy scientologist, but otherwise admirable, if not a little short
It was better than first one for sure!
The original is the best
This movie had me sitting on edge. I had to remind myself to breathe a lot. This movie completely pulls you in the whole time.
I'm from India, always dreamed of becoming a fighter pilot since I was a kid, never got the education or guidance to do it. These movies and your interview are sooooo inspiring, hats off to be those of you who really make it.
"Picking the Fly shit out of the Pepper"
Man I love older generation quotes. I've never heard that one before.
IMAX? Ok. Go see it in ScreenX!!! My dad was a fighter pilot (A4, OV-10) and he was gripping the arm rests the whole time and looking left and right at the side screens. At some points he was talking out loud with excitement "That is how it's done!"
I myself was shouting at some of the scenes.
Around the 15 minute mark you guys said, to me, the coolest part of the making of this movie. That the guys who flew for this movie were not all TOP GUN pilots- they were regular flyers doing regular flying maneuvers. F-ing awesome! So glad you guys are protecting us. Thank you for doing this podcast and thanks to the men and women who keep this country safe. Total badasses.
I just wanted to say how awesome it is to read so many positive comments. You guys are inspiring! These are the people I want to be around!
Michael 🥺
Just watch it yesterday in IMAX with my daughter. I'd rewatch the original Top Gun with her right before so she knew the back story. What a movie experience this was, the beginning really sets the mode and feel of Top Gun. The action sequences are spectacular. It was intense, my daughter was laughing because she would look over an I was literally holding on to the arm rest, eyes wide open, my back against the chair! The story line was also great, i differently had some teary eye moments. Gotta go see it in theaters, this deserves the hype and what movie making should be about. Tom Cruise should get an Oscar lifetime achievement award, period.
Lol yeah Tom literally deserves his own award because he's in a category by himself. Ironically, his performances are never "Oscar worthy" only because his scenes are usually serving the movie, not the character/actor. After seeing Tom's "how do I teach that?" scene, I think he could easily play an Oscar role. But we need him where he is. No one else is doing what he's doing.
@@AIKnowYou The industry takes him for granted. His work ethic is like Jackie Chan, puts his all into it. I totally agree with you thoughts on his performances
cool dad.
@@AIKnowYou He did have an Oscar nomination worthy performance for his “Born on The Fourth Of July” movie.
I went with dad as well to see it in IMAX. I had already seen the original Top Gun many times. Definitely got my adrenaline going at times. Awesome movie!
I wasn’t in the military, but I worked for Lockheed Missile and Space right out of college in the early 80s through the 90s. I loved this movie. A couple of comments. There was a drone in the early 80s that Lockheed was developing. It was the same time that Israel had their first drone in production. Our drone was done for the Army, drone technology was in it’s infancy, but it was there.
The part of the movie I loved besides the fighters was they incorporated the Tomahawk cruise missile in the mission. That was my last project with Lockheed. This movie got the Vertical launches right and loved how they were incorporated into the mission. I was working on the Tomahawk when it was used for the first time in Desert Storm and beat all expectations.
This was an awesome movie. I liked it as much and maybe a bit more than the first one. If anyone is planning on seeing this movie, watch the first one before you go because there are a ton of tributes to the original movie in it. Great panel and I have been thrilled that the movie really tried to stick to reality which is unusual in Hollywood.
It certainly is a breath of fresh air from all the generic Hollywood movies nowadays. One of the few movies that kept me engaged like it was all actually happening.
And I love seeing all these people, including you, explaining/mentioning all the little details that the movie got right. That truly shows how much passion the filmmakers put into their craft. Yeah like obviously they're not gonna shoot real SAMs on the planes but I love how the CGI was used minimally and when needed. Movie of the year for me
Done watching the first movie and liked it! Will definitely watch the 2022 movie. Cant wait!
The purpose of the military is to murder people and the destruction of property. How do they do this? By taxing the citizens so hard with income taxes, the currency collapses. Find more constructive ways to channel ones’s energies in society by doing work for our common good, not slaughtering people.
Are you anaircraft engineer, Sir?
That's why they're called movies, and not documentaries.
It's amazing how Tom Cruise adapted so quickly to flying the jets. He just never stops evolving yet still looks like he's in his 20s
he did not fly the jets.
Edit: People seem to be misinterpreted my comment. I was simply clarifying, because it seemed to me that OP thought Cruise flew all the stunts. I’m fully aware of the fact that he flies planes and does a lot of his stunts. I absolutely loved the movie, the stunts, and the effort the actors put in to make it look as real as possible. No hate.
@@DarthSid000 but he did sit in the back taking high g moves whilst having to stay in character, keep in mind the dude is nearly 60. No shit he didn’t fly them but it’s almost as impressive to film all those scenes
@@JC-uo5rj Hey 👋
What 20 year olds are you around that have wrinkles and crowsfeet? lol
Tom cruise has a commercial pilot license and has been flying for many years, owns a p2 jet that he flies himself
This interview panel was great. Heard from another Marine fighter pilot on the Jocko Podcast that the reason they used F18's was for the two seater feature to get the actors in the plane (vs. using an F35 that has no two seater option). I loved hearing the feedback of these fighter pilots of the movie. While it did get knit-picky at times I'm glad that they all appreciated the fact that this is a movie and so there is unrealistic aspects to it. It's just very admirable that a lot of attention to detail was done to make it quite accurate for a movie (real g's, real planes, real moves for the most part, etc.). I was so happy about the F14 Tomcat being used in the ending of the film. Sure a lot of movie suspension of belief as the F14 pilot said in the panel but still really cool in the nostalgia and story perspective. I've seen the movie three times and have loved it the same amount each time. 10/10 for me. Movie of the year I think. Definitely grateful for the service of these pilots on the panel and for all those who serve in the U.S. military.
Yeah the guy jocks interviewed is the same guy that was in this video, in the middle, Burke. Only guy to fly a 16, 18, 22 and 35.
I thought the military said you not using F 35 or Raptor. But sure we will help you.
I could be wrong
My life was aerospace. I worked at the Naval Air Warfare Center where I procured F-14 parts for ten years. My office was close to the air tower and maintenance hangar. I love that plane. Later I bought FA-18 parts. Top Gun is one of my all- time favorite movies. The new release didn't disappoint. It was emotional for me. So glad Kilmer was in it. Always been a Tom Cruise fan. Actual Top Gun pilots are very brave.
Definitely go see this theaters. A tv and a couch doesn’t do justice
100 percent
I went to the re-release of Top Gun (1986) for my first movie back in the theater in spring 2021. Oh. My. Goodness. It was so gorgeous. Even my increasingly larger TVs and surround sound over the past 30 years were a pale comparison.
I've seen Top Gun Maverick twice now. Even the large format RPX didn't come close to being the experience IMAX was. I encourage everyone to see this in the best IMAX theater near you.
I'm 30 years old, I love the cinematic world, watched thousands of movies from different countries. Top gun Maverick is without a doubt, so far, my most favourite movie. Watched it 3 times, the sound, the scenery, the angles, everything amazed me.
Thanks!
I just hope more Millenials and Zoomers realize there was a golden age in the 80's and 90's when movies were not CGI Overloads but had soul
@@lukebuchwald9252 actually, a lot of movies nowadays are not CGI over loads too.
The new Top Gun had an 80s movie feel that I haven’t felt in a long time while still being modern. It was an awesome movie and home run
I was a lowly Cannon Crewmember in an artillery battery. It is great listening to you guys talk about all the (literally) high-speed stuff you got to do. Don’t get me wrong, I had a blast and would not trade my time in the service for anything, but you guys got to do some cool stuff that very few people ever get to experience. Thanks for keeping our skies safe gents!
I hear you mate. As an engineer ive dug some good holes and made some good bridges and blown up.some awesome stuff. Ive also been rained on like Forrest gump, sure its nothing like flying a jet, but was still a great time.
@HeathenHammer @hernendez sanchez PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT MINIMIZE YOUR ROLES IN PRESERVING OUR FREEDOMS!!! I’m the daughter of a Marine Drill Sgt. I won’t say “former” Marine - as you guys well know, “Once a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine.” RIP Dad 7/2017) I will adjust that quote to say “Once a soldier, ALWAYS a soldier!” In this sad time of our history when our children & grandchildren are being taught that America is bad, horrible, etc. and to hate our brave men/women who, without hesitation, run towards danger & not away…(😢😢) It is up to US…you know, the so-called “boomers” “alt-right flag huggers” “innate racists” “misogynistic lovers of the patriarchy” just to name a few labels, to STAND WITH YOU TO PROTECT & DEFEND OUR SACRED CONSTITUTION & BELOVED COUNTRY. We need to remind those in Washington that “they” work for us and are NOT puppets of the military industrial complex - which is BTW the greatest threat to our freedoms than any external enemy. President Eisenhower was absolutely right about the MIC being our greatest threat. So to me, just a humble nurse - basically a nobody except to my family and friends, just to say “Thank You” for your service is such a hollow e e expression of the deep, deep gratitude I have for both of you and for your unselfish service. May God bless each of you in His mighty way each & everyday. 🇺🇸❤️😔😔🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼😔😔❤️🇺🇸
@@dbeazrn3934 Thank you for your very heartfelt comment. I have immense gratitude for patriots like you. My late brother is a Marine and I’m sure your he and your Dad are up in heaven now sharing war stories. The world needs more people like you, good and patriotic people that want the best for this country. There is a faction in our country today that hates America and everything she stands for. They want to turn our wonderful country into a communist utopia aka a horrible tyranny where everyone is equally poor. I will fight against it as long as I have breath in my body and I will raise my children to revere our country and teach them what a blessing our constitution is. Thank you again DBeanz and god bless you
I’m the same 0811 here Charlie battery Camp Las Pulgas.
Speak for yourself !! I was a 13.Bravo and damn sure not lowly! I wasn't a paper pushing PAC dude and proud of it.
The one and only panel discussion of the movie Top Gun: Maverick you’ll ever need to listen to. Having been listening to the FPP for little over 2 years now, I just want to say thank you for making this awesome and informative podcast. Really learned a ton from it! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Jerry! Grand, Chip, and Jambo knocked it out of the park.
Jerry 👋
I am former military (Air Force) and second that message.
@@FighterPilotPodcast can you please answer the 3 questions I posted in the general comments its in regards to your call signs. Please
The lessons about leadership and teaching discussed in this episode really stick out. You could do a whole podcast on what it takes to professionally instruct other people in difficult skill sets.
100%. That can apply to any leadership role. It was unexpected but I loved listening to it and how it applies to me
In surgery there has been a couple of competitions called Top Gun in laparoscopy and vascular as well as a book called Top Knife about trauma surgery. All inspired by the movie.
I've done a little teaching and I completely agree with what the panel said.
For about a decade, I taught draftsman at McDonnell Douglas and Northrop to change from pencil and paper, to CAD. Closer to aviation, I taught high-performance driving at race tracks for 20 years. I am also a pilot here in northern Nevada, and actually had an F-18 pilot from Fallon as a student. He did great.
I'm of the opinion that, once you learn how to teach, you realize the process is very similar, no matter the subject or student. It's about teaching the student how to learn the material, but also about the instructor learning what the student responds to. Picking up on the student's current understanding of the material, figuring out the right steps to progress (what they can handle), and learning what type of feedback will engage their brain, are all critical to leaving a strong and lasting imprint of the knowledge.
I've had the opportunity to talk at length with an F-111 Aardvark pilot (my current instructor) and a few SR-71 Blackbird pilots. Invariably, they said the reason they achieved command of those aircraft was that they encountered great instructors. I really believe that, and they were highly-skilled pilots. But, it seems like you don't get many second chances in military aviation, because there are so many standing by to take the slot.
Dave Berke has been on many Jocko podcasts where they discuss that in a lot of depth
@@kudukilla my cousin participated in that Top Gun laparascopic surgery competition --- he didnt win but it's a very real thing
Nice interviews.
Also, I don't know how many caught this but Maverick's love interest Penny was THE Penny Benjamin mentioned in the first Top Gun when Goose and Maverick were getting chewed out by the Captain(I think he was Captain) after Maverick did the flyby.
Omg thank you. I was wondering her significance!
As a US Navy operative, i loved it. The fact that Tom Cruise is a actual pilot who owns that P15 Mustang at the end of the movie, & flew it himself in the movie, made this movie one of the best of all time.
P51 mustang converted to 2 seats
@@cw93711 yeah, I was wondering about that. I couldn't find any references to a Two-seat P51. I thought maybe it was a prototype, or a limited production model or something.
@@timdutton2056 they did make a few 2 seat trainers. The 2 seat model was TF-51D
@@cw93711 So, Toms plane isnt a TF, but a modified P?
Just curious. Its still a pretty awesome plane.
@timdutton2056 yes Tom's plane is a P51k photo reconnaissance aircraft.
It was modified into a P51D, 2 seat aircraft, but it doesn't have dual controls.
The passenger sits behind the pilot and is pretty tight.
I have 2 hours of time flying a dual control p51B with the owner who was an instructor.
"We're picking the fly shit out of pepper here." Holy shit that is a badass line from Jim "Jambo" Ray
Oh yeah, definitely!
LOL I love that line and I will need to use it --- and I will also steal "can't push a rope or polish a turd" 😂
Vincent Aiello is such a likeable guy.
And it’s striking how all of the pilots are such gentlemen - polite and quiet killers. So humble
Thank you for the kind remarks, Dave (this is Vincent). Much appreciated.
A good Italian guy….
I was 22 when I watched Top Gun. I watched it with my son when he was 12 or so 28 years later and I can now say watching Maverick with my son at 19 was one of the best times we've ever had! Top Gun Maverick is hands down one of the best if not the best movie we have ever seen! Making plans to see it again!
One of my best friends is a retired Air Force pilot. In fact, he sent me to this video because he confirms what they are saying. He loved this movie and man it was the antidote I needed to all the crap movies we've been subjected to in recent years. I will see this one again in the theatre and then buy it as physical media!
Thank you for this discussion and for letting us listen to your insight and opinions of this movie. I grew up right next to Miramar Navy Base in San Diego and saw Top Gun in the theaters with my brother and friends twice back in 1986. I was 9 years old. It captured all our imaginations so I couldn’t be happier when they announced the sequel. I saw Maverick with my brother in IMAX over the weekend...both in our mid 40s now...and it was an absolutely incredible experience. I looked over at him at one point during a flight sequence, and saw him grinning ear to ear with tears coming down his face....which of course, got me going too. It was a great movies...I felt like I was back in San Diego driving on Kearny Villa Rd as F14s and F18s thundered overhead practicing touch and gos. Such a special experience, we can’t wait to go again....just like we did in 1986.
Priceless.
That’s so awesome. I grew up by SeaWorld, not too far from you. I saw this multiple times in the theater the summer it came out, it still has the same impact.
Just moved back home to NYC from San Diego 5yrs ago. Lived in Rancho Bernardo area and to "live" in America's Finest City as they call SD, it is pure paradise. It is a Garden of Eden, and being a HUGE Top Gun fan, getting to see/hear fighter jets flying over the I-15 fwy, or seeing VTOL (Vertical Take-off Landing) Ospreys flying in tandem is like seeing lions in the wild like Africa. Majestic mechanical beasts. And one year I actually got to be on "hallowed" ground......Miramar Air Station for the annual Airshow (now run by the Marine Corp). To be on that base, seeing the military hardware, the parking lot full of F-15s, 16s, etc...was amazing.
Seeing the sequel it is a WORTHY sequel to the original. Top Gun: Maverick as a sequel is = Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. Top Gun the original is Star Wars: A New Hope. It builds off the original....and as Viper said...."makes it better".
Miss San Diego, USS Midway, Miramar, Point Loma, Coronado Island.
As for this podcast, it is great to hear that the movie was more realistic than the first and that those flight scenes were REAL G-forces. Kudos to these former pilots, Top Gun instructors.
My wife and I watched Maverick earlier this evening. We enjoyed it immensely. We came home and came across this interview together and enjoyed greatly this panel interview. Seeing the pilots responses were awesome.
Cutty
This was very cool to listen to, as a civilian. It's awesome to hear all these cool stories of real pilots. Thank you for your service!
This was insanely entertaining! By the way, I was the F/A-18 E/F tech advisor and structures engineer who designed the cockpit/canopy camera mounts. Hearing you all talk about pulling >7.5gs on a Hornets almost made me throw up in disbelief. When filming, I was the "bad guy" enforcing the IFC limits -especially the max g pulls-, but by the looks of the maneuvers, it looks like no one listened. Lol...
I took my Wife who is Blind to Maverick Top Gun! her reaction was amazing as she understood the Movie because of such great auditory enhancements! Two things that helped were my whispered
Descriptions to hear as the movie was playing. The descriptive did not work. What helped her, was that she read a book about Neil Armstrong becoming an Astronaut!! Thew biggest joke was she thought this was a western Movie. Amazing movie do not miss it!!!!!
I’m just a regular civilian with zero military experience but I could listen to fighter pilots talk for hours upon hours upon hours! I think there are a lot more just plain regular people that just have a fascination with the whole fighter jet pilot world/universe. Every kid born late 70’s early 80’s had a dream at one point of doing this. Thank you for sharing all you do with us and thank you for your service! God bless you all!
Very well said! Born in 1981 and couldn’t agree more
Same born 1984
Great Interview! Love hearing the perspective from real Top Gun pilots. My wife and I watched this today. I knew I'd like it, my wife I almost had to drag in. She grudgingly admitted it was a good movie.
On a more personal note, I spent 17 years in the Navy. This hit me hard emotionally. My last command was on North Island with NECC (Naval Expeditionary Combat Command) The same beach they were playing football on, I did as well. And tore my ACL. I was in training to head to the middle east. That was the beginning of the end of my career. I would go on to tear and repair my ACL 2 more times. 3 in 3 years.
Brilliant movie.
Ouch! Hope they at least medically retired you.
Jason 😍
This conversation is so interesting. You guys are true heros! I’m glad we had you to keep us safe. Thank you all for your service.
"We're picking the fly shit out of the pepper here." :D I'm definitely using that going forward!
Jambo is an old-school salty dog. 👍🏼
I’d wager he has exactly ZERO effs left to give!
100% using that for the rest of my life.
LOL I love that line and I will need to use it --- and I will also steal "can't push a rope or polish a turd" 😂
I never really cared about flying or planes, but I was very interested in hearing what real life people had to say about this movie. This is hands down one of the best reviews/ interviews I have ever seen. Very informative, entertaining, and interesting.
CW Lemoine has a good take on his YT channel
how could one not love planes?
Also consider that 99% of these pilots grew up watching the first Top Gun movie as kids
Enuff to go see the movie? 😎
I think that Jambo may actually be the real-life Iceman. He's got the time in the Tomcat. He's got the no-nonsense way of talking about things. And he's got the hair.
Haven't seen the movie yet but I do want to express my appreciation for this particular video. It was such a pleasure to hear such articulate, knowledgeable, and experienced men sharing these observations and experiences with warmth and humor - no him-hawing, uh-ing, etc. "Jello" in leading this fast-paced panel discussion is superb, makes me wish our media journalist interviewers had 'top gun' instructors for their craft. Kudos to all involved. Thanks!
Retired navy staff corp officer here…this was a outstanding panel that highlighted many things from the movie that I just simply missed. As a result, I am going to have to watch this movie a second time. Thanks for an entertaining, humorous and very informative discussion about real world military aviation as it related to the movie! Bravo Zulu!
Same here. Need to go watch it
Great movie. Really enjoyed it. My only complaint is the misrepresentation of the CWO Maintenace Officer. Where were the Navy advisory people. As a REAL CWO Aviation Maintenace Officer I can tell you there is no such thing as a CWO1. In the Navy and Coast Guard it goes CWO2 to CWO4. WO1 (not a CWO) was dropped because W-1's were not Commissioned Officers and had little authority. CWO2 and above are Commissioned Officers.
Grand's commentary about humility is priceless! Chip's statements about his debriefs and the reasoning behind it to make others better is Golden. To hear Chip talk about when he arrived as an instructor at Top Gun and his interaction with Dan Dickson is the icing on the cake that proves the point that Grand made earlier about walking with humility. You know 100% that Chip was a bad ass fighter pilot with extreme skill sets and that he earned much respect by everyone who knows him. My prayer is that people/youth of today could hear what these guys are saying and apply it to their lives.
100% Well said!
I saw the movie yesterday afternoon and it was a edge on your seat thriller especially in one particular fight scene, I appreciate the real Top Gun vets perspective
Jell-o, thanks for putting this together and filming it for those unable to be there with you. My wife and I watched it for the first time yesterday and absolutely loved it. We are going to catch it at our local IMAX theater this evening as big BIG screens with theater sound is the only way to experience this. Loved hearing you and you're guest's takes on what's realistic. We watched the original 86 film just before going to Maverick. Talk about night and day ... the cockpit scenes were epic and makes us desk pilots appreciate all the more what you all did/do to keep us safe. 🙏
Regarding the F-14 ejection seat not working: My guess was and still is, that the reason behind the malfunction was simply that they forgot to arm it. The F-14 has a small lever on top of the seat that has to get pushed down and i remember noticing in one scene that it was clearly not pushed down.
That or the "rogue state" that owned them just didn't maintain them. Least that was my thought.
I thought the same thing, that they had not pulled a safety pin.
Actually what usually happens is that the OCr gets flabbergasted and it interrupts the P2Pt current. It happens frequently
That is an interesting theory. Rooster pulled the pins on the missiles but prolly forgot to arm the ejection seat.
the shotgun shells were out of date and didn't fire.
I went to the theater thinking it was going to be just okay. I loved it so much I'm going to see it again tomorrow. Not often i see a movie twice in the theater but this was legendary!
Came here for a 5 minute distraction, stayed for 47. Outstanding. Nice to see Dave Berke after hearing him with Jocko. Semper Fi.
Great podcast, I have to give all the credit to Tom Cruise. He fought to keep this movie from being released to streaming services because you need to see this on the big screen with a crowd. The real flying makes a ton of difference, I'll still go for the first one as the better movie, but only because it was first and was a cherished part of my childhood.
I saw it on a seat-back in-flight entertainment screen on a transatlantic flight and _still_ thought it was great! 🤣🤣
Excited, absolutely honored, and appreciative at being invited to sit in on this discussion. I hear 4 authentic people, and much enjoyed hearing the "jargon" and the experience.
I loved this movie, for its flying tactics that are life-saving, and how Iceman was brought in and encouraged a deep understanding of letting go and forgiveness when the chips are down and all that matters is coming home. As well Jennifer Connely's encouraging a confused Maverick was like a fine wine, guiding her love interest to higher levels of living life, on the edge, beautifully played out.
I went in with abysmal expectations. Was looking to pick it apart in every detail. I was blown away from the opening scene. Respectfully leaned on the original from the start with the updated intro, the iconic music and backdrop of an updated aircraft carrier. And quickly made it clear this was its own story. Not just a scene for scene rehash of the original. Not a single scene where I felt any kind of political message being slammed in my face. Just a good old fashioned, practical action movie. Found myself at the end credits with a genuine tear in my eye.
I am a retired air traffic controller for the US Navy and was working at NAS Miramar the last week that the Top Gun School was in San Diego. After that it relocated NAS Fallon, NV. I was also fortunate to work there as well. F-14 Tom Cat's were my favorite.
I thought the opening sequence with Maverick piloting what others have called the SR-72 was similar to the scene in the Right Stuff where Yeager tries to break an altitude record with the NF-104. That mission also ended in a crash (IIRC the first time Yeager ever bailed out of airplane since WW2). Hondo had a passing resemblance to Jack Ridley's role with their dialogue about Maverick's face being like Yeager and Ridley's about borrowing a stick of Bemis gum. Great panel. I really enjoyed it.
I think it's really telling that fans are just as interested in the making of the movie as the movie itself!
Just watched it in theater last night- loved it, very nostalgic
Graduate high school in 1986
And my cousin went on to be Navy Pilot and Commander- proud of him ❤️
A buddy of mine did an overstressed maneuver on a F 16 during school ... This was very early on. Manufacturer and commanding officers were really pissed . He had to sit down until investigation was done.. like a month.
Jello keeps knocking it out of the park with these amazing podcasts.
Thanks, but I'm going to need a vacation after this past month. 😅
More to come in June!
@@FighterPilotPodcast You are doing great Jello. What makes you so great is how you focus on your guests. You are an F-18 and Viper pilot yourself, but you never make it all about yourself. I am sure everyone appreciates how you make the guests the central focus. Cheers!
@@2ZZGE100 Glad to know because that is exactly what I try to do.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thanks Jello. Keep up the great work!
What a great production! This was an excellent panel you assembled for it, too. Thanks to everyone involved for putting this together!
My son was 8 or 9 when the first one was out. We saw that movie a million times😀. He has seen this new one 4 times already. I went with him the one time and it was great, and took me back, to see him so excited about it again. Great time together.
Holy shit that was one of the top 5 best videos I've ever seen. Thank you all for your candor, your energy, and most especially your service.
There is a nod to The Right Stuff. The Dark Star speed attempt and breakup and Maverick walking into a bar (nod to Poncho's Happy Bottom Riding Club) were a nod to Yeager and the fiery ejection from the NF-104A (rocket assisted test version) that left him worse for wear in his high altitude flight suit of the day. Also the final attack is a nod to The Dam Busters which is what Star Wars borrowed from. And Maverick asking for clearance into the range was a nod to the scene in The Right Stuff where in the movie, Yeager is depicted as taxing the NF-104A (rocket version) to the active runway without a flight plan or clearance. "Just taken it up for a little spin".
Excellent addition, Mike--wish I had thought to mention that on Friday night.
I loved this movie. I plan to see it again. As a cold war Navy Vet I can tell you seeing Mav flying again was just awesome! Great panel and Q&A btw. Thanks for your service to all involved.
Cook 👨🍳
When the first one came out - my brother and I had saved up the "Free movie" bottle caps and we watched the first one three times in a row the first Saturday we had to go to the movies. I have waited for this second one and was not disappointed. One of the best movies to come out of hollyweird in the last decade IMO. LOVED THIS MOVIE! Great to hear how the second stacked up against the real deals on the stage - thanks for the discussion.
It's so fascinating listening to these guys talk about something I know zero about. It's very cool.
Definitely will be seeing it AGAIN. I’m really glad they delayed the release of the film to be seen in theater & not for streaming. Action & subtle homages to the original were epic…The scene w Iceman was amazing.
Agreed. I don't know if I would have experienced it the same in a stream setting.
In the theater the sound system is so robust that you can feel everything, not just see and hear.
Fighter pilots are real-life super heroes!
What I especially loved about this very awesome breakdown by experts is that y'all graded the movie on the merits of what it's core objective was - good Hollywood entertainment. It's supposed to be a money making blockbuster, "not a documentary". So for all it's technical shortcomings (some deliberate, like the hangar debrief) you guys really treated your review quite well, separating the real life rudiments from the creative inputs that are needed to make good movies... and that Ridley Scott quote at the end summarized it well.
I loved that everybody took shots at Jambo's age. That was really hilarious to see. His sitting in for the 3rd gen crew was quite an honorable tribute to the genre. I mean, it's jawdropping just hearing about all the stuff that 5th gen fighters can do, but as the movie depicted, the former technologies are literally the platforms from which future ones launch.
One more thing: I had the question in my head as to whether the F35 really had such inadequacies as the movie suggested which made it necessary to espouse irrevocably the F/A18 as the ultimate low fly mission machine. I am enlightened to know now that it doesn't and that it was just a plot point for the movie - which was brilliant, I think.
My first thought was that the FF35 should have been the airframe they chose to do the mission, since the entire selling point was that it is a 5th gen stealth aircraft. Then I thought “oh yea its a 5th gen aircraft they aren’t going to show up the full real life capabilities of this”. The F18 is still a magnificent plane.
@@RaijinKaze And, let's be real, the movie would be hella boring if the F-35 could be used as intended, going in and out undetected...
The F35 was not chosen likely for two reasons:
It's less "sexy" than the F18, and there's no way the navy was going to give them a bunch of F35s to fly around with.
@@h1tsc4n40 Hey 👋
Haven't been close to that environment in a while but a couple of things to keep in my mind about the f35 (I may be wrong though so you can double check the info). We have to remember that the movie is based off of the US Navy which flies the f35b with a short take off and landing capability. If I remember, this impact a few things on the airframe. Limited G, maybe less fuel and less payload. Not 💯 but I think that's why in the movie he says the f-18 is the clear choice. Another thing to keep in mind is that they knew this was a super high risk mission. F35 are super expensive and as started several times in the movie, pulling a lot of Gs can bend a frame to the point where the aircraft can never be flown again. If you think that's going to happen, might as well use an old f18.
This movie is by far my all time favorite.
Sometimes i think to go back at the cinema and watch it again.
Thanks for doing it, loved the reaction of all the fighter pilots on the podcasts, especially how humble they were in their opinion. Watched the movie and loved it
For an aviation nerd and DCS pilot like myself, I enjoyed this video as much as the movie. Well done boys!!
The line from the movie that stands out to me was that one of the students had an air to air kill from a Korean or Vietnam era jet. "Relic" wonder what kind of plane it could've been. F86? F4? Mig 15? 17? 19? 21? 🤔
@@ryanb9749 Ryan 👋
DCS pilot here, too. Hornet? Viper?
@@the_rakan Hey 👋
@@the_rakan Hornet all the way dude. Nothing beats a three wire trap. Except getting a "smoothie" in a Viper with aerobrake...now, THAT is cool.
Outstanding, loved the post screening interview.
I was a Huey/Cobra mech in the Corps and we were at Yuma MAWTS 1 when the first film came out, then getting back out to the flightline and watching all the fast movers. It was amazing.
Thanks for your service!
From one veteran to another, thank you for your service.
@@guymorris6596 Morris 🎈👋
AWESOME movie!! (My wife loved it, too!) The original played nearly non-stop on every TV on my base at the time (NAS Whidbey) and I gotta say that this new movie seamlessly continues the story. I hope it creates a desire for more people to choose the Airman track. I also appreciated the inclusion of Don Simpson in the opening credits.
FANTASTIC movie, FANTASTIC panel discussion, WELL DONE!
thank you all for your service. “Small price to pay for freedom” - Chip Well said!
LOL that kid made me laugh when he asked "Who's the best pilot you ever saw??" took me right back to "The Right Stuff"...great portrayal of Gordo Cooper..and yeah..he was a pretty bloody good pilot ! He knew it LOL. He was also smart as a whip!
You guys who have had a career in flying are so lucky and you do an awesome job, I remember watching the first one back in 86 and knew I wanted to fly but I never got the chance due to medical reasons.
Paul 🎈
Great analysis guys. Brought back sooooo many memories even though I was a USMC 53E plane captain/crew chief. Lots of time in Fallon, flight suit party at salt wells, had a pair of F-111’s fly right under us wings swept at low level while inbound to Fallon. Crazy outside NATOPS limits maneuvers with a USN test pilot that I will leave unnamed. Top gun was released if I recall’ while I was going through my aircrew training in Pensacola. I’ll have to check the dates on that. After my USMC career, I when into the ND air national guard where I did another 18 years. About a year before I retired I was awarded an incentive ride an an F-16B. We did a bunch of top gun and Willie Tell style maneuvers until I got sick, lol! We got the jet up to 8.3 g’s and after 90 minutes flying bfm’s I got out of that cockpit feeling like a wet dish rag. My only critique of the movie, when will Hollywood stop making every helicopter sound like a two bladed Huey? H-60’s do not go wop wop. Just like an FA-18 doesn’t sound like a Corsair. It’s like nails on a chalkboard to rotary wing guys. I wonder why they didn’t make maverick’s ninja sound like a Harley.
When I was stationed at CGAS San Francisco (SFO) we went to NAS Fallon for our oxygen tank training. I was a USCG HU16E and HC-130H CWO Aviation Maintenace Officer.
All these guys are very confident bordering on cocky but also humble in a unique way. Also intelligent, well spoken, sardonic sense of humor….it’s like the same person in 4 bodies.
I'm not cocky. I'm too good to be cocky.
It's called 'humble bragging' 😄
The Right Stuff was heavily referenced in the SR-72 scene! It’s almost a copy of Chuck Yeager’s NF-104 scene, the main difference being that Yeager was after an altitude record whereas Maverick was clearly feeling the need for speed. ‘You should be at least a 2 Star Admiral, or a Senator’ said by Adm Cain, played by Ed Harris, who appeared in The Right Stuff, as John Glenn, who became a Senator.
I picked up on the NF-104 references but the Admiral connection went over my head. Well spotted and that makes that scene so much more brilliant!
Also the scene where Iceman asks Maverick to say who's the best pilot, reminded me of Gordo Cooper in the Right Stuff.
Great catch
Absolutely! Great reference to The Right Stuff. MIght be a stretch, but the pilot/astronaut tension in TRS partly involves control over their respective vehicles. Similar to Ed Harris promoting pilotless fighters.
I really enjoyed and appreciated the references to The Right Stuff
Although I stumbled into the Fighter Pilot Podcast due to a fascination with naval aviation, I’ve found that I’ve also learned a great deal on leadership principles in the series. Great program! Thanks!
Chip has a natural talent in that area for sure.
I love this podcast! Learning the ins and out from real instructors was very interesting! And for me, as a 52 years old TOPGUN lover I really liked the input from Jimbo for this comments on TOPGUN (1986) - Many thanks for your service!
Watched it on the weekend, absolutely loved it came out feeling the same buzz as the first wishing I was a fighter pilot. Then stumbled across and really enjoyed the analysis and talk and that the movie flying was not completely Hollywood and that it had real life flying parallels. Loved the panel discussion, great stuff.
F^ng amazing recap, and critique and real talk about your actual experiences and how the movie compared! Hollywood ain't doin a better interview than what I just saw here. Thank you all for kicking ass on our behalf. May each one of you get all the love and respect you deserve.
The movie was great! Not a lot of sequel can do what Top Gun did. I wasn't as hyped with the first Top Gun as storyline was very simple and I was blown away how good this sequel was! Val Kalmer was shown and we realizes for most of us that real time has pass by us. Love it!
Back in 1986 it was the best thing out there. This movie is just as much nostalgia about the mood of the Nation and our 35 years younger selves as it is about the movie.
I really wish Kelly McGillis had been in it.
@@Dingdongwitchisdead best movie of 1986 was Aliens, which is the greatest sequel ever made. Cameron, the greatest. Let's not forget.
@@defiverr4697 it may have made more in the Box Office in 1986 but we all know Ferris Bueller has been watch more times as well as Top Gun since then in dvd and streaming. John Hughes will always be King of the 80’s
@@defiverr4697 1986 was just one of the best years for movies ever.
This is such a fantastic and authentic group of panelists!! Paid attention to every second and have learned so much more beyond the movie!! Peace & Love
Awesome Jell-O! This is probably the best movie review/after thoughts/discussion about the movie that I've seen on TH-cam. Lots of interesting info, thank you.