Here's a tip if you truly want a perfectly clean bore. I stopped using a brush a long time ago. Soak a cleanig pad and use a rod + cleaning jag, run it through the barrel and let it sit a few minutes. Run your clean patches. Eventually, the solvent evavorates. When this happens, you will start getting clean cloths not because the barrel is clean, but because the solvent has dried.
Getting a dirty patch when you ran Hoppe's #9 through the .45 barrel isn't surprising. When you cleaned the .45 barrel with the Hoppe's #9, you used a brush that you had previously used to clean another barrel. Some of the dirt from the first cleaning contaminated the brush.
The bore brush has crap on it from running it through when it was dirty... both barrels... a fair test would be to use a brand new bore brush on each barrel to see if it comes clean. I have cleaned a barrel and then re-cleaned it 2 months later when it was already clean and had crap come off from the bore brush... it was clean with a patch when I finished cleaning it but it got dirty when i used the bore brush on it the second time.. Just my observance, brush=dirt. Clean your bore brush...
This was probably the worst comparison I have ever seen. First of all, ramming an already dirty brush back through is obviously going to transfer residue back into the barrel.
The true test is to run yet another saturated cloth through the barrel - let it sit momentarily, then run another clean cloth. 9 out of 10 times you will be removing more powder. The process mentioned is repeated until a "saturated" cloth comes out clean followed by a clean dry cloth. I use this process when storing my firearms for extended periods. If I know I'll be shooting that particular firearm shortly, I won't go to that extent.
I agree that this is required to be the 'most scientific'. Having said that, he used the brush with the Hoppes to apply as is recommended. I call that a disadvantage as you need an additional tool/step to saturate. Either way you slice it, he used the same technique on BOTH barrels and showed the ultimate outcome, thats pretty damn effective in my book.
I don't think this is a very accurate test unless you're using the same brand/type of ammunition for each gun - and each gun has the same number of rounds through it. Some brands of ammunition seem to be "dirtier" than others.
@roadranger27 Same Here! Did 2 cleanings on the same barrel with Hoppe's#9, then got my Ballistol in the mail, sprayed the barrel and let it sit for 20 minutes, then took a brush, swiped it through 4 times, then took a clean white patch, ran it through, and it came out black! I threw my Hoppe's away, using only Ballistol now. Also, used some Amsoil synthetic 0W-30 motor oil on my Mosin-Nagant that hoppes wouldn't clean. Amsoil did the trick, followed by Ballistol.
i sadly do not have any Ballistol yet...., but what i do understand is that it does seem to be a much milder cleaner, because you don't want to get any of the Hoppe's on your wood grips because it will ruin the finish on the grips! great review, cheers mate!
@spacemanspiff2012 Yeah this is more of a begginners test, There was also some double dipping of solvents. I am a fan of Ballistol and still a user of good ol Hoppes. I gonna give thise another try, next time i will use two 45's.
I clean them all dry with a brush. It's fun to see all the dust come out of it when you do it dry. Also nothing sticks to anything when you do it dry. After doing that, finish up with some oil and you're good to go. If rust, then put barrel and parts in a co trainer full of warm soapy water overnight. Then dry clean the following morning. Voila!
@roadranger27 I love Ballistol and use it a lot, but I still haven't let go of good ol Hoppes#9, kinda like a 1911, been arounf forever for a reason. Thanks for teh comment.
@dudelivestrong Just used some ballistol on a stuck sliding door works great but my wife keeps saying she smells shit on the patio! Lol I just blame it on the dog! Lmao
I use shooter's choice bore cleaner for the barrel, and shooter's choice FP-10 for the cleaning and lubricating of everything like the barrel lugs, slide rails, extractor. But I use Slip 2000 Extreme weapons grease on the rails of the frame using a q tip. Action is smooth as silk. Kimber Ultra Carry II, zero probs..
@elw619 Thanks, it is true I use Ballistol more then Hoppes now, I will use Hoppes on those times when I wait 2 weeks before cleaning my Gun,LOL. I through a can in anytime I am ordering from Midway, just kinda lays around till I need it.
Running the bore brush in the barrel of the 9mm in order to get oil in the barrel basically just broke up all of the dirt in the barrel. I havent watched the rest of the video yet, but i assume it will have an influence in final results.
Yeah. After watching the entire video im convinced that the wire brush used to oil the barrel with Hoppes is what caused your results. The first instance, using the brush broke it up and then cleaned it with the dry pads. On the second instance with the 45, the ballistol guns didnt have a brush to help break up the dirt. In other words, it was only ballistol cleaning the gun as opposed to Hoppes, plus the wire brush.
You shouldnt use bore brush with solvent. The dirt you see is actually the solvent eating the bore brush. To prove my point, keep using brush then patch. You would notice two things. The patches are always dirty and the brush keep getting smaller. Solution? Only brush prior to solvent.
Hoppes 9 if you want lead and copper out. Balistol is sort of a jack of all trades master of none. Plus it smells like old socks. I use hoppes on bores, it dissolves better. Balistol is not bad and is less toxic probably safer.
@MadeInOregon27 I wouldn't, I would say only use it for inside the barrel, the outside of the frame you can wipe down with a towell or use a cleaning cloth, they are many version out there.
Not fair, I cleaned by barrel last night and without using the brush my barrel looked clean and was coming out with clean patches...just for the hell of it, i soaked it in oil cleaner again and went though with the brush and I was still getting some dirt out...even with the same lubricant.
I think you should really cotton instead of those synthetic patches. Thanks for the vid but I think you missed a few things while you did your little comparison but thanks for taking the time to give people a little information. I was curious about if the Ballistol smells as horrible as the Hoppes #9? Hoppes #9 does work well but is way too strong for me while I'm cleaning so I switched to Hoppes Elite which is unscented.
Your bore brush is contaminated from previously use. You added dirt to the barrel by dipping it and then running it through the barrel. You added only Ballistol by spraying it into the Baretta. You need to control your test a little better.
I'm not sure your video proved anything conclusively. Apples and oranges comparison, one is a liquid the other an aerosol and both drew out more dirt the other had left behind. Perhaps the carbon build up on both needed more brushing with each before attempting to push patches through. I'd bet if you did it a third time you'd still be getting dirty patches.
@TheNopedawg Not sure I would check if it will damage the finish? If it SS manybe not but please consult your manufactorer. I invested in a sonic cleaner and use that for the good ole dunking process. If you have a few guns it will be worth the investment.
@chrizzis77 The only way to describe Ballistol is to compare it to stinky feet!! Lol, Hoppes is strong, but ballistol smells like ass, thanks for watching!
Very true, unfortunately Ballistol wrote the BOOK on cleaning bores since very few people put stock in boojs anymore. In fact, I've heard that pretty much everything in boojs are lies. So for me I'll just stick with the ones that wrote the book, you know, because boojs suck.
I think ballistol is an ok cleaner/solvent. But it's not a miracle worker as some make it out to be. I think it's funny how people Get so "ass hurt" (as pete from the Armory Channel would say) just because people disagree with them. I mean, Most people would be shocked to find out how many Gunsmiths actually use Simple Green as there cleaners, hahaha!! You can by that next to dish detergent! for like $2.00
.45 has more surface area so there would be more "dirt"...good try but i agree that if your going to do a true test you need to keep it equil with both and clean them seperatly. If you need to clean a bore then i have found that hoppes is hard to beat, not much experience with ballistol though so i am exceted to see how ballistol does. So far it may replace CLP for me, mainly because i can get a large can of non-aresol Ballistol for way cheaper than CLP.
Bro. I know it's not the point of the video.. but save the swabs and the time.. use the nylon bore brush soaked with either solvent, then a bore snake. Dry and finish with a swab or two, then a swab with oil. Done in a fraction of the time it takes to use only swabs.
I agree Hoppies is a better cleaner, thanks for the VID. Your process wasn't the same on bot barrels. Check the lab review its more scientific but the conclusion is the same.
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Here's a tip if you truly want a perfectly clean bore. I stopped using a brush a long time ago. Soak a cleanig pad and use a rod + cleaning jag, run it through the barrel and let it sit a few minutes. Run your clean patches. Eventually, the solvent evavorates. When this happens, you will start getting clean cloths not because the barrel is clean, but because the solvent has dried.
so the hopes #9 gets the benefit of a bore brush but not the ballistol?! how is this a fair comparison.
Getting a dirty patch when you ran Hoppe's #9 through the .45 barrel isn't surprising. When you cleaned the .45 barrel with the Hoppe's #9, you used a brush that you had previously used to clean another barrel. Some of the dirt from the first cleaning contaminated the brush.
boresnakes are a beautiful thing. time consuming patches and rods have been usurped..come ye, join the revolution!
Hoppes #9 wrote the booj on cleaning bores
The bore brush has crap on it from running it through when it was dirty... both barrels... a fair test would be to use a brand new bore brush on each barrel to see if it comes clean. I have cleaned a barrel and then re-cleaned it 2 months later when it was already clean and had crap come off from the bore brush... it was clean with a patch when I finished cleaning it but it got dirty when i used the bore brush on it the second time.. Just my observance, brush=dirt. Clean your bore brush...
You used a bore brush with the hoppes, and not the ballistol, try it again with no bore brush for either
This was probably the worst comparison I have ever seen. First of all, ramming an already dirty brush back through is obviously going to transfer residue back into the barrel.
The true test is to run yet another saturated cloth through the barrel - let it sit momentarily, then run another clean cloth. 9 out of 10 times you will be removing more powder. The process mentioned is repeated until a "saturated" cloth comes out clean followed by a clean dry cloth. I use this process when storing my firearms for extended periods. If I know I'll be shooting that particular firearm shortly, I won't go to that extent.
Exactly what I was going to write after watching this...Comparing apples to oranges!
I agree that this is required to be the 'most scientific'. Having said that, he used the brush with the Hoppes to apply as is recommended. I call that a disadvantage as you need an additional tool/step to saturate. Either way you slice it, he used the same technique on BOTH barrels and showed the ultimate outcome, thats pretty damn effective in my book.
is it possible your brush pushed move grime back in the barrel?
I like Hoppes #9
I don't think this is a very accurate test unless you're using the same brand/type of ammunition for each gun - and each gun has the same number of rounds through it.
Some brands of ammunition seem to be "dirtier" than others.
@roadranger27 Same Here! Did 2 cleanings on the same barrel with Hoppe's#9, then got my Ballistol in the mail, sprayed the barrel and let it sit for 20 minutes, then took a brush, swiped it through 4 times, then took a clean white patch, ran it through, and it came out black! I threw my Hoppe's away, using only Ballistol now. Also, used some Amsoil synthetic 0W-30 motor oil on my Mosin-Nagant that hoppes wouldn't clean. Amsoil did the trick, followed by Ballistol.
i sadly do not have any Ballistol yet...., but what i do understand is that it does seem to be a much milder cleaner, because you don't want to get any of the Hoppe's on your wood grips because it will ruin the finish on the grips! great review, cheers mate!
@snatale1 Thanks, completely different types of items. I like ballistol and use it a lot. But I still keep a bottle of good ol hoppes around.
@spacemanspiff2012 Yeah this is more of a begginners test, There was also some double dipping of solvents. I am a fan of Ballistol and still a user of good ol Hoppes. I gonna give thise another try, next time i will use two 45's.
I clean them all dry with a brush. It's fun to see all the dust come out of it when you do it dry. Also nothing sticks to anything when you do it dry. After doing that, finish up with some oil and you're good to go.
If rust, then put barrel and parts in a co trainer full of warm soapy water overnight. Then dry clean the following morning.
Voila!
@roadranger27 I love Ballistol and use it a lot, but I still haven't let go of good ol Hoppes#9, kinda like a 1911, been arounf forever for a reason. Thanks for teh comment.
@ZoDiAcZ34 Yeah, gonna have to update and be a little more scientific. thank for watching
@dudelivestrong Just used some ballistol on a stuck sliding door works great but my wife keeps saying she smells shit on the patio! Lol I just blame it on the dog! Lmao
I use shooter's choice bore cleaner for the barrel, and shooter's choice FP-10 for the cleaning and lubricating of everything like the barrel lugs, slide rails, extractor. But I use Slip 2000 Extreme weapons grease on the rails of the frame using a q tip. Action is smooth as silk. Kimber Ultra Carry II, zero probs..
@elw619 Thanks, it is true I use Ballistol more then Hoppes now, I will use Hoppes on those times when I wait 2 weeks before cleaning my Gun,LOL. I through a can in anytime I am ordering from Midway, just kinda lays around till I need it.
Running the bore brush in the barrel of the 9mm in order to get oil in the barrel basically just broke up all of the dirt in the barrel. I havent watched the rest of the video yet, but i assume it will have an influence in final results.
Yeah. After watching the entire video im convinced that the wire brush used to oil the barrel with Hoppes is what caused your results. The first instance, using the brush broke it up and then cleaned it with the dry pads. On the second instance with the 45, the ballistol guns didnt have a brush to help break up the dirt. In other words, it was only ballistol cleaning the gun as opposed to Hoppes, plus the wire brush.
+Welding77 ..i second that,... not a fair test for the 45 barrel as no patch or rod was push through.
You shouldnt use bore brush with solvent. The dirt you see is actually the solvent eating the bore brush. To prove my point, keep using brush then patch. You would notice two things. The patches are always dirty and the brush keep getting smaller. Solution? Only brush prior to solvent.
Hoppes 9 if you want lead and copper out. Balistol is sort of a jack of all trades master of none. Plus it smells like old socks. I use hoppes on bores, it dissolves better. Balistol is not bad and is less toxic probably safer.
@CPLBSS88 correct, I think I will try this again but with another CLP and two pistols chambered in the same round,
@MadeInOregon27 I wouldn't, I would say only use it for inside the barrel, the outside of the frame you can wipe down with a towell or use a cleaning cloth, they are many version out there.
I use Ballistol for everything even my airguns.
Not fair, I cleaned by barrel last night and without using the brush my barrel looked clean and was coming out with clean patches...just for the hell of it, i soaked it in oil cleaner again and went though with the brush and I was still getting some dirt out...even with the same lubricant.
I think you should really cotton instead of those synthetic patches. Thanks for the vid but I think you missed a few things while you did your little comparison but thanks for taking the time to give people a little information. I was curious about if the Ballistol smells as horrible as the Hoppes #9? Hoppes #9 does work well but is way too strong for me while I'm cleaning so I switched to Hoppes Elite which is unscented.
As I'm getting older.. Harsh solvents are really tough on my skin. Ballistol really seems to work and it's an "all in one product".
Looked pretty even to me, especially since you were using a brush with the Hoppe's.
Better to pour the cleaner on the brush vs. dipping it in the jar.
I'm stickin to Hoppes#9.
They write the best booj's and produce the superior solvent for firearm cleaning.
@gurney85 Yeah, because it's such a great idea to keep pushing debris down your bore. Which is what you're doing with a bore snake.
Your bore brush is contaminated from previously use. You added dirt to the barrel by dipping it and then running it through the barrel. You added only Ballistol by spraying it into the Baretta. You need to control your test a little better.
@oldairforcedude thanks for commenting,! I have a surplus of good ol ballistol!
@ludwigdrummer1 Thanks Man, been making some more vids lately, I still use both depends on the cleaning. I soak parts a lot with the ballistol too!
I'm not sure your video proved anything conclusively. Apples and oranges comparison, one is a liquid the other an aerosol and both drew out more dirt the other had left behind. Perhaps the carbon build up on both needed more brushing with each before attempting to push patches through. I'd bet if you did it a third time you'd still be getting dirty patches.
@TheNopedawg Not sure I would check if it will damage the finish? If it SS manybe not but please consult your manufactorer. I invested in a sonic cleaner and use that for the good ole dunking process. If you have a few guns it will be worth the investment.
@roadranger27 I could see how that could be the case, I'll try it again and use new tools for each clean.
You dirtied the .45 barrel back up when u stuck the brush back in there.
@chrizzis77 The only way to describe Ballistol is to compare it to stinky feet!! Lol, Hoppes is strong, but ballistol smells like ass, thanks for watching!
Very true, unfortunately Ballistol wrote the BOOK on cleaning bores since very few people put stock in boojs anymore. In fact, I've heard that pretty much everything in boojs are lies. So for me I'll just stick with the ones that wrote the book, you know, because boojs suck.
You need to clean the barrels with the same equipment. I'll bet most of the dirt from the Hoppes, 45 clean came from the bore brush.
Too many variables to be of any real comparative value.
I think ballistol is an ok cleaner/solvent. But it's not a miracle worker as some make it out to be. I think it's funny how people Get so "ass hurt" (as pete from the Armory Channel would say) just because people disagree with them. I mean, Most people would be shocked to find out how many Gunsmiths actually use Simple Green as there cleaners, hahaha!! You can by that next to dish detergent! for like $2.00
great video thank you for doing this for us
.45 has more surface area so there would be more "dirt"...good try but i agree that if your going to do a true test you need to keep it equil with both and clean them seperatly. If you need to clean a bore then i have found that hoppes is hard to beat, not much experience with ballistol though so i am exceted to see how ballistol does. So far it may replace CLP for me, mainly because i can get a large can of non-aresol Ballistol for way cheaper than CLP.
Bro. I know it's not the point of the video.. but save the swabs and the time.. use the nylon bore brush soaked with either solvent, then a bore snake. Dry and finish with a swab or two, then a swab with oil. Done in a fraction of the time it takes to use only swabs.
Tissues and plungers? Thought it was a gun video, not plumbing
@TheHobbyistChannel
thats nuts I figured it was a cat or something.
Thumbed down for calling it "hoppies" its pronounced "hops".
ballistol eats metal...
Cleaning a gun is not rocket science. Clean with Hoppe's #9 then coat with BreakFree CLP, then add some RemOil or Tetra Gun Grease to the slide rails.
was that a cat or someone crying for help? lol
Hoppes 9 with sperm oil !!! no thanks
Ballistol Rocks!
@2002flstci thanks man!
I agree Hoppies is a better cleaner, thanks for the VID. Your process wasn't the same on bot barrels. Check the lab review its more scientific but the conclusion is the same.
@dudelivestrong No, no it won't.
@Aaotrom hahaaa, my wife thinks it was a ghost, crazy though right that sound was crazy, Lol
Pronounced "hoppy's"
Dude should not dip yoiur brush in the solvent bottle contaminates it
this guy has no idea how to clean a barrel need to use the brush in both ballistol works awesome use it on all my firearms
@gurney85 Lmao! I have been on the gate, soon my friend I shall come to the dark side!
Agreed horrible comparison and doesn't even know how to use a simple rod the right way. Keep this man away from yr fire arms
not a very scientific test is it? More like a joke.