2023 Diamond Edge Max - Budget compound bow review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2022
- James and Ernest review the new 2023 Diamond Edge Max compound bow complete package that retails $499 at the Bow N Arrow Shop in Lakeside, California located within San Diego county. They also do a speed test by running the bow through a chronograph. 29 inch draw, 70 pound draw weight, 422 grain gold tip velocity pro arrow.
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Not an "Edge" comment, but a comment on the shop. I just decided to get into the archery game. I got a PSE Drive NXT from the Bow N Arrow shop. Ernest was awesome. He took the time to make sure I understood what I didn't know. He helped me as a complete noob without making me feel stupid. He was even understanding when I had to bail in the middle of getting the bow set up because my wife called me 911 because she had locked the keys in the car. Came back the next day, finished the process and completed my purchase. Great video!! Thanks for sharing.
Love to hear it! Thanks for the great comment.
I just got into archery and bought an Infinity 305. Nice vto have a good bow that is not super expensive when just starting.
Congrats! That is a great bow.
Thank you for the review! I’m getting started and this looks like a great option.
Glad you liked it!
Diamond has always been my recommendation on a beginner bow …. Even before I owned a bowtech .
They are nice for sure! Good technology too
Hello! I'm just starting and probably going to be my only bow for years.
Need help in choosing please.
I'm torn between the two:
Diamond Edge Max or
Diamond Infinite 305
Just harvested my first buck this season with the diamond edge 320. Really nice bow for the money i paid 379 bucks at my local scheels ready too shoot. Now im hooked!
Congratulations!
Thats super cool... im looking at getting my first bow with my taxes... i want to get to the point where i can put meat in the fridge reliably and ethically. And i feel the bow would be the best at challenging me as well as fair chace for the game.
Great video. Just looking to get my first bow, deciding between this one and the XT. Any recommendations?
Both are great! Shoot both and see which feels more comfortable to you
I got the edge 320 from here and it's gotten the job done
Great bow for sure!
That's cool that you still have the picture of the "Dirty Dozen" up on the wall. Until about 3 years ago I had the same picture in my archery range. The Edge series of bows is the best selling line of entry-level bows for a reason.
Such a cool photo! And yes, great bows
I learned to shoot as a kid from my dad in the 90's I'm 40 now and am thinking a lot about getting back into 3D shooting and eventually hunting. What is another good entry level brand other than Diamond?
PSE has some good options, as well as mission
I like it..
Same
I'm really wanting to order one of these for my nephew for Christmas. Where and how can I order one?
Usually you have to go to an archery store and have them set it up etc
Gave away my 20 year old Mathews to my nephew who wanted to get into bow hunting.
Told him it's not the bow its the hunter!
Facts
Do you know how many pound 1 turn on the limb bolts takes off your total draw weight? I couldn’t find it on the manual or anywhere online
I'm not sure. Maybe 4 ish for a full turn?
So as a beginner trying to pick between this and a Bear Resurgence, any recommendations?
Edit: Diamond Alter as well?
Haven't shot the bear but the diamond is super nice!
If you could choose between the edge 320 and this one, which would you prefer?
They are very similar, so whatever is cheaper 🤷♂️
@@BowDisciples Thanks for your opinion on it!
Please review the 2023 Diamond by Bowtech Alter because I just bought one. Lots of trickle down technology at a mid value price. Synchronized Binary cams, swappable comfort/performance modules, modern split limbs, wide range 10-70 lbs, 21"-31" DL, 31.5" ATA, 7" BH, decent 330 fps IBO rating, A and B cable routing to reach low end of DL and poundage, super smooth draw, 85% letoff, firm limb stop wall, aims really well. Severe tail right tear, needed to swap lower limbs and shim, but once tuned is a tack driver. Drawing at higher than my normal DW due to the smooth draw curve. Quality 1/4" axles with end screws like a Mathews (no C-clips) makes cam shimming easy. Some vibration fixed with added limb dampening, Limbsaver stabilizer, and riser Limbsavers, and fairly dead in hand. Sight and rest are junk, strings seem high quality, looks modern as opposed to solid limb Diamond models. Mossy Oak Country DNA camo looks great. Well-shaped warm to the touch grip, but bare grip not really an option. I highly recommend it, but tuning was a bit of a challenge (although figured it out on day one).
Would love to check it out!
Update: My new 2023 Diamond by Bowtech Alter RH 70 lb bow had a bad right nock tear, even at 7/8" center shot. The top cam had okay mild cam lean towards the cable guide side at brace, but the lower cam had way too much cam lean towards the cable guide, and both axles already had more shims on the left side. So in the first tuning session I was able to correct the tear by swapping the lower limbs. As stock, the right side limbs are stronger, both top and bottom, to counteract cable torque cam lean at full draw. Because of the scooped out riser at the burger button area (for extra fletch clearance), this bow needs more than the standard 13/16" center shot, 7/8" with the limb swap. The arrow shelf is kind of shallow so to get cock vane down shelf clearance with my Bodoodle rest I had to raise arrow height to the top 1/3rd of the burger button hole. This limb swap worked but I didn't like out-of-line look of the bottom cam at full draw, even with flipping the cables/cable guide. So in the second tuning session I returned the limbs to stock configuration (stronger limbs on right to counteract cable tension cam torque at full draw), moved one thin white right shim to the left on the top axle, did a major moving of shims to the left on the bottom axle, returned the cables/cable guide to stock configuration, and set the center shot to 1". This corrected the right nock tear, results in 1 degree top cam lean to the cable guide side at brace and 1/2 degree bottom cam lean to the cable guide, stronger limbs doing a better job at cable-torque counteracting, better inline looking cams at full draw, but the arrow pointing a little to the left at brace relative to the limb bolts and stabilizer. Of the two tunes, I am liking the second one better. Mine might be a one off with the limb pockets a bit out of alignment, but I was able to tune correct it out and the pluses of this bow (smooth easy draw, swappable performance/comfort mods, excellent valley, firm limb stop wall, 85% let off by my measurement, forgiving brace height, good quality strings, good ATA length, modern looks, wide range draw weight and length, and steady aiming make it a keeper.
@@drmitofit2673 Thanks so much for the great comment, I'll try to get to it.
@@BowDisciples My only other criticism of this Diamond Alter bow is that the final 2023 Diamond manuals have not been released as of yet and the bow is supplied with only a very skimpy generic manual. No look up tables (although draw length in inches is etched into the cams), no explanation of A vs. B cable routing on the cams (although similar to PSE's grow-with-you system with B to reach the lower end settings), no explanation of how A and B settings change draw length (B effectively lengthens the cables thus decreasing draw weight and decreasing draw length), no look up table to see if changing the 70 lb max bow to the B setting will give you a 60 poundish max bow, no explanation of how to swap comfort vs. performance mods (although I figured out that A and comfort are the stock settings and that you would swap top and bottom modules rather than actually flip them over), and no max limb bolt turns warning (although there are sight windows that go "empty" at 10 turns out as well as handy limb pocket/riser scale markings to show you that they are equal). I always mark the 12 o'clock maximum-in limb bolt heads to be precise.
@@BowDisciples Just for completeness, I wanted to report what I think is the tune issue with my RH Diamond Alter which had a bad nock right tear as stock.... and my corrective solution/fix. Day one when I put the bare bow flat on my kitchen counter, the Alter had an out of square rock meaning the limbs were not parallel. It is not unusual for this to be 2 mm or so, but this was more pronounced at 4.5 mm more than any other bow I own. My previous two tunes corrected the right tear (lower limb swap vs. stock limbs cam shimming and long 1" center shot), but ignored the out of square limbs. With an equipped bow you can test for square by laying the bow spanning the kitchen sink so the sight and rest don't touch down. The Diamond Alter and several other Diamond models have a composite limb pocket that has a tongue and set screw system that allows the opportunity for limb pocket shimming. I lowered poundage 10 turns out, pressed the bow, slipped the string off the cams, and completely detensioned the limbs. I then backed out the lower limb pocket set screw, loosened the lower fulcrum set bolt, and fit a slim 0.020 shim from my 3/16" shim kit between the left side of the tongue and the riser, captured by the set screw. I reassembled, cranked up the bow to shooting poundage and then tightened the limb pocket set screw and fulcrum set bolt. This reduced the out of square from 4.5 mm to less than 2 mm, pivoted the lower limb tips to the left, moved the string to the left, got my center shot back to normal, and now the string at brace splits the grip axis like it should. Limbs are not swapped as on first tune. Stock stronger limbs on right side to counter cam torque at full draw. More cam shims on left side of axles. Upper and lower cam lean near zero at brace. Shoots really good now with no right tear, very accurate, no hand shock or bow twist upon release, and string/grip/arrow in much better alignment. Just thought you should know in case you test this Diamond Alter bow and have tuning issues. Mine could have been a one off, out of alignment. It was easily correctable and the bow is a great shooter with many great attributes.
Have you tried the Alter?
Not yet
Is this a good bow for elk hunting in the rocky mountains?
Yup!
What should the arrow weigh at 60" draw weight? And, 100 gr tip or 125?
Maybe around 400 grains with a 125 tip
@@BowDisciples Thank you.
its weird the let-off % isnt listed anywhere. not even on the official website. I assume its identical to the sb-1 asnd the edge pro (75%-85%) and they are assuming everyone just knows its identical rather than state it. 😂
That is wild 😂
Bought a 320 for my boy and 305 for my daughter... just to get them started
Awesome! Good choices
🏹🎯👍
Let's gooo
You got 20 dots up there and you shoot at the same one and almost smoke your arrow. Lol. I must be cheap as heck cause I rarely even shoot more than one arrow at a time just in case. Happy hunting.
Haha I do the same generally
@@BowDisciples my cousin has a golf cart and I love shooting over at his place because of it. 😂
@@TheBeefSlayer Nice! haha