In therapy they tell us that only we get to decide was feels like abuse to us. So if she doesn’t feel like any abuse happened then it’s not okay for us to speculate what her feelings are about it and project on to her.
@@cosodesign8953 but just bc it might not “feel” like it to the one that was groomed, doesn’t mean that’s not what it was. I mean a lot of people don’t even realize they were groomed until years later even. Reminds me of the “baby groupies” during the 70s, they were 12-15 y old girls who (to this day) feel like they weren’t groomed by rock bands when obviously they were SA’d by grown men. Tbh, I think it’s a part of denial bc these ppl still hold admiration for the one in power. Tana says how her and Shane still talk, so in some way she still has that soft spot for him that probably holds her back from seeing how weird the picture really is
The thing also about Shane is that he would make apologies, later talk about how they were insincere, continue to make harmful "jokes" and then continue this cycle. He still doesn't really believe he did anything wrong because if he did, he would make an actual apology owning up to everything and not make himself the victim
I thinks it’s because tana has gone through more serious (yes this is serious but a friends death ( as I dealt with a friends suicide & the aftermath is still felt today. - I wouldn’t think a internet creep is that serious. Also drug use, & all the partying people do will still numb you some what even if you are sober. - I think she sees it like meh because the internet is her job but not reality to her 24/7. Also she was never close to Shane & once she saw she could do it without him ; she was over him. It was a fan meeting their idol & I feel she is just confused because maybe she wonders how she would be if she never watched his cringy videos. ) I didn’t & I can assure you I’m so happy because he is so weird to me in how he portrays a lot of his life, friends & how he treats when rylan I think is so rude. He’s a fat guy gone skinny dbag who uses his dirty ness as a im relatable crutch. Peeing in water bottles when you live in a mansion? Its sick. He’s weird.
I am VERY tired of people making excuses for Shane's sick behavior, but looking at things from Tana's perspective I think this conversation was fair. It's honestly hard for us to know how she really thinks or feels since she may just be trying to avoid drama, but it is sad if she just thinks that that one infamous video can be rationalized. And, who knows... Maybe she had actually confronted Shane about it in private, though it doesn't seem that way. Also, yeah, her comment about Shane and Jenna makes sense since they are both from the same era of YT, but they VERY different people.
As someone who is the same age as Shane was in that video with Tana, I cannot see any rationale that would make doing something like that with someone who is 18 appropriate. I cannot imagine having a friend my age doing something like that and thinking it was acceptable, even. Especially with the power imbalance that you talked about. I think Shane was very aware that he had power and influence over others, especially aspiring creators. Shane is a creep. End of story.
To those who haven't seen the podcast episode, I really recommend the section where she talks about her childhood and her parents suing her. It's super interesting and I hope she doesn't get in more trouble for talking about it.
“Did our senses of humor make our relationship inappropriate?” No Tana, Shane should’ve known better and he made the relationship inappropriate. Period.
I remember watching the Tana-Shane video referred to at the time and being REALLY weirded out but dismissing it as Tana and Shane’s “humour”. I should have known far better, I was 21, not an underaged girl. I still hadn’t really pieced together exactly how gross and exploitative he had been on TH-cam and as a person generally. I was amongst the legions of little fans who in a way was kind of very indirectly distantly groomed by Shane to accept his disgusting behaviour as “dark humour” as a child. I was in my early-mid teens in the late 2000s-early 2010s and still hadn’t really put two-and-two together yet until Shane was cancelled finally in 2020. I noticed several troubling signs along the way, such as his claiming in about 2015 in one of his several apologies that he didn’t know what minstrel shows were until adulthood, which I found very bizarre with his being a grown man from California. Anyway, I do hope Tana is doing well considering how he used her.
i was pretty young at the time that video came out, i think around 12. being tana’s age now, i find it really disturbing. i was so young and it really normalized that behavior for those of us who were kids watching it. ew
Here's the thing as much as i believe in gr*oming I also wanna respect Tana as a grown woman who looks back on that time in her life and after years of seeing what people on social media have been saying, she made her own informed decision of what she thinks of her relationship with shane. She's only speaking from her own experience rather than speaking for everyone and i think that needs to be respected.
Feel like Tana has sorta grown a lot, she has better ppl around her and is able to think before she acts. Ofc she still has her Tana moments but def not as bad as before. Tana is VERY eloquently spoken in this podcast interview, it's giving less of Tanas chaotic energy and more of a cohesive feel & mature vibe to her. Even when she's making light hearted jokes, it actually seems like the "relationship" really messed with her. And she's now able to reflect back on that without word vomiting or side tracking.
Being a former Shane Dawson fan, it's honestly kinda freaky how many red flags I and others ignored. I'd been a Shane fan since 2012 and then stopped around 2019-2020. Looking back, he did a lot of weird shit. From the jokes with his niece, relationship with Tana, his skits in general, etc.
I'm 27 and idk what I'd have in common with someone 10 years younger than me. My sister is 19 and it's hard to relate to her because of the age difference
I'm also 27 and have the same issue with my 17 year old sister. We get along great but I definitely wouldn't seek out a friendship with someone that much younger than me.
@yoda apologist, it's not that I have nothing in common. It's hard to find things in common. When I've worked with people that are 18, 19, or 20 we've gotten along great but without having a job in common chances are we wouldn't organically connect elsewhere. I'm also probably "older" like you said due to trauma that my half sister didn't endure so that does make the Gap bigger. We're in very different parts of our lives.
@Kaisha exactly. Due to starting at a new college and going back to school and stuff I had to do some core classes with the freshman at 25 years old and I had never felt older 🤣
I think the fact that we (including Tana) can all look at what happened & see what was wrong is the most telling part. Tanas 24 I’m 22- Shane was 28!!! He knew better Also gotta add: I always love Ethan’s interviews & Tana’s was SO interesting to me
What happened with Tana, she was basically groomed by Shane; not in the traditional sense, but the way she still defends him to this day in a way…that’s all a response for trauma. I’m hoping when Tana gets older, she FINALLY has this realization.
I feel like she’s so conflicted about Shane. On one hand he absolutely did some really creepy fucking shit to her, but on the other would support her career and even SAVED it. So of course she would feel thankful towards him in someway and that in its own could be making her feel guilty/some type of way. Shes gonna need to process all of this more.
Tana is being realistic about it. Controversy was all the rage, Shane is outlandish and likes to be the centre of attention. The two things combined catastrophically but this was the era where Eminem was writing music about murdering his daughter's Mum, Matt Lucas & David Walliams were doing blackface on Little Britain which was watced in every UK household. Being non-PC was being non-PC. It was a comedic choice to push boundaries and not a reason to then be chastised forever. Back then if you didn't wanna hear/see/listen to it you just didn't. Now people go digging and hold people up as though they made those choices in this climate. Like it or not, times have changed. The people who moved with the times then are trying to adjust things to move with the times now. That's all you can really ask of them. Outrage and offence is a choice, too.
I don't think she's trying to stay out of drama about that. To me it sounds like she's trying to make excuses for him because otherwise it's too creepy for her, especially as she's going to see him again. Just wait a few years when she'll have her "me too" moment and realise how f***d up it was. She's getting there, just you wait.
idk much about tana, but I do know about the video where they do things bc tana turned 18 and she pisses on him. I always knew how horrible shane was but I didn't know the other horrible things going on between them
I mean she seems open in this whole interview and not like she’s putting on a show so I think if that’s how she feels then that’s how she feels and people shouldn’t speculate further because it was her experience, she obviously has reflected on it
I actually really enjoyed their conversation. It was like a Tana Tell All 😅 I think she has a really interesting and inspiring story. She seems to have so much more self awareness then in the past.
Tana is so fake tho like she talked shit on him prior to her seeing him at Jeffreys event and said she talked to him since then? like she did the same shit with David Dobrik, talk shit about him then goes to his event like make up your mind girl do you like them or not. It’s just annoying like I can’t take her seriously. Shane is still disgusting tho obviously.
I’m 28, about to be 29 in April. I work with people as young as 17 and there is no way that I can twist my brain to make ANY excuses for Shane regarding that pee video with tana. It was just inappropriate.
@@scipiodriver4076 i see you've been commenting on the other videos about shane dawson at that time. i looked up that dailybooth stuff you bring up a lot. i'm not sure what would still make you think a couple of those posts were, especially by a legal standard, solicitation of cp. i saw you call someone a mentally ill freak for even pointing that out.
So Shane is older than me, I got to see his videos in highschool. At the time his content was not that weird. But knowing so many generations younger than me grew up with him and his disturbing content is crazy
My opinion after watching the whole podcast was honestly I see where she is coming from. By no means do I support Shane or like him at all but she is just talking about her experience and I don’t think we should look for trauma that isn’t there (Kinda weird behavior as not a professional therapist, or someone who knows the whole scope of the situation ) And I honestly felt what she said, I’ve known many 30+ year olds with beautiful souls that definitely don’t act their age and say mildly inappropriate things sometimes… because they’re adults! I’m 21 and have moved around a lot and have had many amazing experiences to meet amazing people. Not comparing Shane to them AT ALL but I can see that it really didn’t effect Tana as much as we all thought and that’s okay. Shane is still disgusting tho
The fact that she thought that Shane was a "hero" says a lot more about our society than what we are. willing to admit. Both of these people are horrible IMO I'm so glad I didn't grow up during these times. I can't imagine how many people have been influenced and shaped behaviors,comedy,morals and race.
Im 21 and I know not to do any of the things Shane did. His extensive past with animal abuse and joking about it is awful. Makes me sketched out by all the jokes he made about underage people.
i used to watch shane and idk how i enjoyed it. He comes off as trying way too hard to be relevant and “quirky” and relatable. its really weird and uncomfortable
There's a part of me that wonders if Tana's own trauma isn't making her want to excuse Shane's behavior. For all of her flaws, she's still been betrayed or otherwise abandoned in some way by people close to her (like her parents), but like Adam said -- Shane basically rescued her career and livelihood. She probably feels like she owes him in a sense and can't fully allow herself to either process or at least speak about how inappropriate and predatory he has been even to her. She's still taking responsibility for his behavior ("our sense of humor was so fucked up"/"i liked the fucked up jokes" etc) as if she shares the blame in what he did and said when she was just a teenager and he was a full grown man.
This has nothing to do with the video, but I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos back to back lately, I love how it feels like im hanging out with a friend. Thanks Adam!!
I think what she is trying to say is yes how he acted was absolutely inappropriate but she doesn’t feel like he was seeking pleasure from it if u know what I mean. So she feels it can be an amended behavior
I think it’s unfair to round up Shane’s age to say he was 30 but continue to say Tana was 18. I think everyone matures at different ages. As a 32 year old, I can confidently say that I didn’t feel “mature” until I was 28. I think for Shane, he got caught up in seeing those numbers grow as he did more and more wild things. It was acceptable back then, and I think it’s unfair to say that’s who someone is today. Similar to Jenna. She called herself out for similar behavior before the quit TH-cam. If Shane is showing change, then that’s all that matters.
Mental maturity doesn’t mean shit when you’re more than 10 years older than a teen girl who was about to and then just turned 18 years old being a massive creep.
i think later on in the video tana is more adamant about shane’s actions being inexcusable. I don’t necessarily think she trying to smooth things over for shane, by talking about her experience. We need to just take her experience and feelings at face value, and they may change as the time pases. I don’t think she’s trying to prove to us that the content she did with shane should be encourage. I think she’s even trying to rationalize it for herself. There’s such a deep interpersonal relationship between her and shane, from him being her idol, mentor, friend, and coworker. I also think tana has had to grow up so fast, basically becoming an adult at 15 and going through lots of hardship that any “trauma” she did experience from shane doesn’t compare, thus she can’t even be that upset at him.
i wonder sometimes what kind of person tana would have been if she hadn't been so influenced by shane dawson. like if she became a youtuber and for eeeexample jenna marbles became her mentor instead. i didn't watch either of them at that time but it just seems like he influenced her content a lot.
Jenna probably wouldnt randomly “mentor” some stranger teenager, shane did this to a bunch of other kids too, bobby burns, rhis singer girl. He had just a “random” obsession with all these fucking kids and would prey after them like the predator he is.
its so sad to see how much tana probably was bothered by the peeing on shane thing but shed rather not go against him because at one point he was her mentor, and if she called him out for traumatizing her shane wouldnt ever be back on the internet
adam i kinda disagree when you said that tana,shane, and ethan have been accused of the same things. The extent of shane’s racism goes so much deeper, from blaccents, black face, stereotyping, and so much more. I don’t think tana and ethan’s offenses were as rooted, and seem more like mistake, instead of shane.
I enjoy tana for some reason. I feel like if we meet we would vibe. ( ironically my bf said the same thing about me and you lol ) I do think she’s flawed but I think everyone is flawed. She’s been toned down since covid “ended”
All the videos I've watched about Shane and everyone that's spoken on him. I don't think his a bad guy, nor do I think his predatory. I just honestly think TH-cam humour was different back then and you shouldn't be judging on that because it was how things were. I just think that Shane's very inappropriate "/
I'm 25 and I honestly could never see myself doing anything like that with an 18 y/o. I don't even like being around people younger than 21 let alone around them in "sexual" or "edgy" situations. I have friends who are 18-21 in age but I always have them in the appropriate situations that they should be in. I know when I have to take responsibility for others due to a maturity standpoint. Shane knew what he was doing with someone who could finally be messed with because of the person turning legal. Legal doesn't mean mature. Legal doesn't mean equal. Legal doesn't mean responsible. Legal doesn't mean consent. Shane knows. Shane didn't care. Shane got what he wanted.
This is the first time I've heard about the fact that tana did not pee on Shane but it was for content is this known and I just live under a rock or did she just disclose that for the first time? And if that was new info it totally seemed like she was trying to change the narrative for Shane. That statement didn't sit right with me.
Shane was 28 not 30x that’s like saying 18 year old Tana was 20. It was said by Tana and you kept saying 30 But Shane’s always been a creep. If he can act young cus he’s hanging out with young people can teachers?? No. Stop bein creeps
I have to disagree for once. Tana was 18. She got on Shane and laughed til she peed and he said he could feel it. You find that terrifying? What the heck? She was a legal adult, who cares what she does? She could have been doing a lot worse at that age.
Just cause things could be worse doesnt make what shane did any less fucked up and wrong as fuck and fucking creepy dude idk why the fuck you dont care bout this, its not okay
@@dragoncup9099 no, but that doesn’t mean it’s predatory. I just think there’s a lot worse things going on in the world than a stupid joke like this. I think people are just acting like it’s terrible just to have something to act appalled over. It’s not that serious.
You gotta think, whiles it’s not an excuse obviously, she grew up very fast. She probably felt 18 at 14 or near to. Hanging out with older people is normal by then, the dr*gs she was doing and crazy nights out were normal already. She can’t rationalize this situation because she really can’t with her own.
I was 22 when the video came out. At the time, I didn’t think much of it. I never thought about how much older shane was than the people he usually surrounded himself with. I had watched him since I was…12/13. Never really understood how it could be wrong. Now at 28…well really around 25/26 I started to shift my opinions. His casual bullying of friends and the perverted shit just clicked. He hasn’t changed a bit but they’ll always be other underage people who just don’t get it yet. He lives off of kids who don’t know better.
Umm the fact that I have no idea what my own comment means or when I accidentally submitted that and that's the comment I get a like from Adam is this "mystery comment "
what about Hila is so captivating? All I hear from the comment section and from Adam is that she's so pretty. Yeah shes pretty, but there are other influencers and normal people that are way more prettier that her.
First of all, cause she is pretty. They are allowed to compliment her, its actually kind and sweet to me. Secondly, aside from her being Ethans wife and a host, so they are going to compliment her, people who beef with Ethan ALWAYS insult her looks. It partly to me almost like reassuring her that thats not true, she is very pretty, and just them trying to offend Ethan.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think hila has a pretty nice face. If you don't think she's *that* pretty, isn't that a good thing? Since she'll never be yours? Less people to opine for
When is someone gonna make a compilation of every time shane was inappropriate towards real kids and just get him in jail finally He needs to get fucking shut down
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I honestly feel like Tana is still in denial about just how gross Shane was to her and just how inappropriate this whole situation was.
i mean tana was groomed basically, maybe not in the traditional sense but still groomed
In therapy they tell us that only we get to decide was feels like abuse to us. So if she doesn’t feel like any abuse happened then it’s not okay for us to speculate what her feelings are about it and project on to her.
@@cosodesign8953 💯💯💯 she said what she said. Respect it.
@@cosodesign8953 but just bc it might not “feel” like it to the one that was groomed, doesn’t mean that’s not what it was. I mean a lot of people don’t even realize they were groomed until years later even. Reminds me of the “baby groupies” during the 70s, they were 12-15 y old girls who (to this day) feel like they weren’t groomed by rock bands when obviously they were SA’d by grown men. Tbh, I think it’s a part of denial bc these ppl still hold admiration for the one in power. Tana says how her and Shane still talk, so in some way she still has that soft spot for him that probably holds her back from seeing how weird the picture really is
She does but she doesn’t like drama incase she can ever use him again
The thing also about Shane is that he would make apologies, later talk about how they were insincere, continue to make harmful "jokes" and then continue this cycle. He still doesn't really believe he did anything wrong because if he did, he would make an actual apology owning up to everything and not make himself the victim
Well said.
I thinks it’s because tana has gone through more serious (yes this is serious but a friends death ( as I dealt with a friends suicide & the aftermath is still felt today. - I wouldn’t think a internet creep is that serious. Also drug use, & all the partying people do will still numb you some what even if you are sober. - I think she sees it like meh because the internet is her job but not reality to her 24/7. Also she was never close to Shane & once she saw she could do it without him ; she was over him. It was a fan meeting their idol & I feel she is just confused because maybe she wonders how she would be if she never watched his cringy videos. ) I didn’t & I can assure you I’m so happy because he is so weird to me in how he portrays a lot of his life, friends & how he treats when rylan I think is so rude. He’s a fat guy gone skinny dbag who uses his dirty ness as a im relatable crutch. Peeing in water bottles when you live in a mansion? Its sick. He’s weird.
If he knew how much he fucked up, he wouldn't have dared to come back.
This!
But clearly tana agrees with shane
Rebecca Black when she went on the H3 pod also talked about a horrible video Shane made with her when she was underage and she was a huge fan
Video idea Adam ^^ ❤
Yeah, it's definitely been a pattern of behavior for Shane.
There’s a difference between dark humor & perversion.
I am VERY tired of people making excuses for Shane's sick behavior, but looking at things from Tana's perspective I think this conversation was fair. It's honestly hard for us to know how she really thinks or feels since she may just be trying to avoid drama, but it is sad if she just thinks that that one infamous video can be rationalized. And, who knows... Maybe she had actually confronted Shane about it in private, though it doesn't seem that way. Also, yeah, her comment about Shane and Jenna makes sense since they are both from the same era of YT, but they VERY different people.
I thought that they talked at that one party they both attended (and that Jeffree attended)
As someone who is the same age as Shane was in that video with Tana, I cannot see any rationale that would make doing something like that with someone who is 18 appropriate. I cannot imagine having a friend my age doing something like that and thinking it was acceptable, even. Especially with the power imbalance that you talked about. I think Shane was very aware that he had power and influence over others, especially aspiring creators. Shane is a creep. End of story.
I’m younger than he was and I still cannot imagine doing that. Creepy.
To those who haven't seen the podcast episode, I really recommend the section where she talks about her childhood and her parents suing her. It's super interesting and I hope she doesn't get in more trouble for talking about it.
“Did our senses of humor make our relationship inappropriate?” No Tana, Shane should’ve known better and he made the relationship inappropriate. Period.
I remember watching the Tana-Shane video referred to at the time and being REALLY weirded out but dismissing it as Tana and Shane’s “humour”. I should have known far better, I was 21, not an underaged girl. I still hadn’t really pieced together exactly how gross and exploitative he had been on TH-cam and as a person generally. I was amongst the legions of little fans who in a way was kind of very indirectly distantly groomed by Shane to accept his disgusting behaviour as “dark humour” as a child. I was in my early-mid teens in the late 2000s-early 2010s and still hadn’t really put two-and-two together yet until Shane was cancelled finally in 2020. I noticed several troubling signs along the way, such as his claiming in about 2015 in one of his several apologies that he didn’t know what minstrel shows were until adulthood, which I found very bizarre with his being a grown man from California. Anyway, I do hope Tana is doing well considering how he used her.
i was pretty young at the time that video came out, i think around 12. being tana’s age now, i find it really disturbing. i was so young and it really normalized that behavior for those of us who were kids watching it. ew
Here's the thing as much as i believe in gr*oming I also wanna respect Tana as a grown woman who looks back on that time in her life and after years of seeing what people on social media have been saying, she made her own informed decision of what she thinks of her relationship with shane. She's only speaking from her own experience rather than speaking for everyone and i think that needs to be respected.
Feel like Tana has sorta grown a lot, she has better ppl around her and is able to think before she acts. Ofc she still has her Tana moments but def not as bad as before.
Tana is VERY eloquently spoken in this podcast interview, it's giving less of Tanas chaotic energy and more of a cohesive feel & mature vibe to her. Even when she's making light hearted jokes, it actually seems like the "relationship" really messed with her. And she's now able to reflect back on that without word vomiting or side tracking.
I usually don't like watching anything shane related anymore but this is the teeeeaaaaaa. Listening to Tana's side is very....telling
Being a former Shane Dawson fan, it's honestly kinda freaky how many red flags I and others ignored. I'd been a Shane fan since 2012 and then stopped around 2019-2020. Looking back, he did a lot of weird shit. From the jokes with his niece, relationship with Tana, his skits in general, etc.
Agree. I was a fan of him since 08. The older I get the more red flag I see. He groomed a generation of young teens.
I'm 27 and idk what I'd have in common with someone 10 years younger than me. My sister is 19 and it's hard to relate to her because of the age difference
I'm also 27 and have the same issue with my 17 year old sister. We get along great but I definitely wouldn't seek out a friendship with someone that much younger than me.
@yoda apologist, it's not that I have nothing in common. It's hard to find things in common. When I've worked with people that are 18, 19, or 20 we've gotten along great but without having a job in common chances are we wouldn't organically connect elsewhere. I'm also probably "older" like you said due to trauma that my half sister didn't endure so that does make the Gap bigger. We're in very different parts of our lives.
@Kaisha exactly. Due to starting at a new college and going back to school and stuff I had to do some core classes with the freshman at 25 years old and I had never felt older 🤣
I think the fact that we (including Tana) can all look at what happened & see what was wrong is the most telling part. Tanas 24 I’m 22- Shane was 28!!! He knew better
Also gotta add: I always love Ethan’s interviews & Tana’s was SO interesting to me
Legit so thankful someone else noticed Hilas makeup. The whole time I low key was just staring at her face. Momma looks flaw👏less.
Tana still supports JStar??? Why is no one calling her out on that
What happened with Tana, she was basically groomed by Shane; not in the traditional sense, but the way she still defends him to this day in a way…that’s all a response for trauma. I’m hoping when Tana gets older, she FINALLY has this realization.
Sometimes when your loyalty runs THAT deep you’ll just play it off like it was nothing…
I feel like she’s so conflicted about Shane. On one hand he absolutely did some really creepy fucking shit to her, but on the other would support her career and even SAVED it. So of course she would feel thankful towards him in someway and that in its own could be making her feel guilty/some type of way. Shes gonna need to process all of this more.
Tana is being realistic about it. Controversy was all the rage, Shane is outlandish and likes to be the centre of attention. The two things combined catastrophically but this was the era where Eminem was writing music about murdering his daughter's Mum, Matt Lucas & David Walliams were doing blackface on Little Britain which was watced in every UK household. Being non-PC was being non-PC. It was a comedic choice to push boundaries and not a reason to then be chastised forever. Back then if you didn't wanna hear/see/listen to it you just didn't. Now people go digging and hold people up as though they made those choices in this climate. Like it or not, times have changed. The people who moved with the times then are trying to adjust things to move with the times now. That's all you can really ask of them. Outrage and offence is a choice, too.
I don't think she's trying to stay out of drama about that. To me it sounds like she's trying to make excuses for him because otherwise it's too creepy for her, especially as she's going to see him again. Just wait a few years when she'll have her "me too" moment and realise how f***d up it was. She's getting there, just you wait.
Hila is killing it in her outfit and makeup. So fabulous
idk much about tana, but I do know about the video where they do things bc tana turned 18 and she pisses on him. I always knew how horrible shane was but I didn't know the other horrible things going on between them
I mean she seems open in this whole interview and not like she’s putting on a show so I think if that’s how she feels then that’s how she feels and people shouldn’t speculate further because it was her experience, she obviously has reflected on it
Tana on H3 is so weird to me. It’s giving me Timmy turner and jimmy nuetron cross episode nostalgia🤣
Yes I've been waiting for someone to talk about thisss
I actually really enjoyed their conversation. It was like a Tana Tell All 😅
I think she has a really interesting and inspiring story. She seems to have so much more self awareness then in the past.
Tana is so fake tho like she talked shit on him prior to her seeing him at Jeffreys event and said she talked to him since then? like she did the same shit with David Dobrik, talk shit about him then goes to his event like make up your mind girl do you like them or not. It’s just annoying like I can’t take her seriously. Shane is still disgusting tho obviously.
I’m 28, about to be 29 in April. I work with people as young as 17 and there is no way that I can twist my brain to make ANY excuses for Shane regarding that pee video with tana. It was just inappropriate.
I mean we can say all day long shock value is bad but it was the norm. So yes it all was normal for the time.
Shane went far beyond shock humor though. What he did with minors was not normal or comedy
@@scipiodriver4076 tell that to 2010s youtube fr
@@spaceglitter3033 solicitation of cp was just as illegal back then as it is today. Quit embarrassing yourself sweetie
@@scipiodriver4076 wait when did he solicit cp
@@scipiodriver4076 i see you've been commenting on the other videos about shane dawson at that time. i looked up that dailybooth stuff you bring up a lot. i'm not sure what would still make you think a couple of those posts were, especially by a legal standard, solicitation of cp. i saw you call someone a mentally ill freak for even pointing that out.
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So Shane is older than me, I got to see his videos in highschool. At the time his content was not that weird. But knowing so many generations younger than me grew up with him and his disturbing content is crazy
Is Hila slowly outgrowing ethan or
she was so real during this podcast
She really wasn’t though. Her behavior since the podcast episode proves how disingenuous she was
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I'm sick of hearing "it was a different time.." well duh, but that still doesn't mean it's appropriate.
i don't think she was trying to to excuse it that way
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I never realised how similar mine and Tana’s upbringing was. Really hard to watch but also comforting x
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I really like tana and I really liked this episode but if I had a dollar for every time she used the word “regard” …
All of your titles intrigue me. I always gotta click asap
My opinion after watching the whole podcast was honestly I see where she is coming from. By no means do I support Shane or like him at all but she is just talking about her experience and I don’t think we should look for trauma that isn’t there (Kinda weird behavior as not a professional therapist, or someone who knows the whole scope of the situation ) And I honestly felt what she said, I’ve known many 30+ year olds with beautiful souls that definitely don’t act their age and say mildly inappropriate things sometimes… because they’re adults! I’m 21 and have moved around a lot and have had many amazing experiences to meet amazing people. Not comparing Shane to them AT ALL but I can see that it really didn’t effect Tana as much as we all thought and that’s okay. Shane is still disgusting tho
The fact that she thought that Shane was a "hero" says a lot more about our society than what we are. willing to admit. Both of these people are horrible IMO I'm so glad I didn't grow up during these times. I can't imagine how many people have been influenced and shaped behaviors,comedy,morals and race.
Im 21 and I know not to do any of the things Shane did. His extensive past with animal abuse and joking about it is awful. Makes me sketched out by all the jokes he made about underage people.
i used to watch shane and idk how i enjoyed it. He comes off as trying way too hard to be relevant and “quirky” and relatable. its really weird and uncomfortable
There's a part of me that wonders if Tana's own trauma isn't making her want to excuse Shane's behavior. For all of her flaws, she's still been betrayed or otherwise abandoned in some way by people close to her (like her parents), but like Adam said -- Shane basically rescued her career and livelihood. She probably feels like she owes him in a sense and can't fully allow herself to either process or at least speak about how inappropriate and predatory he has been even to her. She's still taking responsibility for his behavior ("our sense of humor was so fucked up"/"i liked the fucked up jokes" etc) as if she shares the blame in what he did and said when she was just a teenager and he was a full grown man.
This has nothing to do with the video, but I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos back to back lately, I love how it feels like im hanging out with a friend. Thanks Adam!!
I think what she is trying to say is yes how he acted was absolutely inappropriate but she doesn’t feel like he was seeking pleasure from it if u know what I mean. So she feels it can be an amended behavior
I think it’s unfair to round up Shane’s age to say he was 30 but continue to say Tana was 18. I think everyone matures at different ages. As a 32 year old, I can confidently say that I didn’t feel “mature” until I was 28.
I think for Shane, he got caught up in seeing those numbers grow as he did more and more wild things. It was acceptable back then, and I think it’s unfair to say that’s who someone is today. Similar to Jenna. She called herself out for similar behavior before the quit TH-cam. If Shane is showing change, then that’s all that matters.
Mental maturity doesn’t mean shit when you’re more than 10 years older than a teen girl who was about to and then just turned 18 years old being a massive creep.
Tana really does owe a lot to Shane.
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shane and ryland look so fucking weird in the hollywood fix video. shane just laps up any shred of attention he can get it’s embarrassing
They have no shame
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Where’s Garfield? I’m sorry for bullying him…
I’ve been waiting for this
i think later on in the video tana is more adamant about shane’s actions being inexcusable. I don’t necessarily think she trying to smooth things over for shane, by talking about her experience. We need to just take her experience and feelings at face value, and they may change as the time pases. I don’t think she’s trying to prove to us that the content she did with shane should be encourage. I think she’s even trying to rationalize it for herself. There’s such a deep interpersonal relationship between her and shane, from him being her idol, mentor, friend, and coworker. I also think tana has had to grow up so fast, basically becoming an adult at 15 and going through lots of hardship that any “trauma” she did experience from shane doesn’t compare, thus she can’t even be that upset at him.
Lovin all this twitch TH-cam fb lol hey mucker I watched this podcast I’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts let’s go ❤
One morally corrupt person defending another morally corrupt person doesn’t mean anything to me. Idk why they even platformed her fr
i wonder sometimes what kind of person tana would have been if she hadn't been so influenced by shane dawson. like if she became a youtuber and for eeeexample jenna marbles became her mentor instead. i didn't watch either of them at that time but it just seems like he influenced her content a lot.
Jenna probably wouldnt randomly “mentor” some stranger teenager, shane did this to a bunch of other kids too, bobby burns, rhis singer girl. He had just a “random” obsession with all these fucking kids and would prey after them like the predator he is.
@@dragoncup9099 you're not wrong. it's honestly so disturbing.
its so sad to see how much tana probably was bothered by the peeing on shane thing but shed rather not go against him because at one point he was her mentor, and if she called him out for traumatizing her shane wouldnt ever be back on the internet
I grew up on shanaynay 😢
adam i kinda disagree when you said that tana,shane, and ethan have been accused of the same things. The extent of shane’s racism goes so much deeper, from blaccents, black face, stereotyping, and so much more. I don’t think tana and ethan’s offenses were as rooted, and seem more like mistake, instead of shane.
Jeffery Epstein had a young mindset too
I enjoy tana for some reason. I feel like if we meet we would vibe. ( ironically my bf said the same thing about me and you lol ) I do think she’s flawed but I think everyone is flawed. She’s been toned down since covid “ended”
She was more than excited to receive his pallete but now she exposes him lmao
She’s defending him…
All the videos I've watched about Shane and everyone that's spoken on him. I don't think his a bad guy, nor do I think his predatory. I just honestly think TH-cam humour was different back then and you shouldn't be judging on that because it was how things were. I just think that Shane's very inappropriate "/
I'm 25 and I honestly could never see myself doing anything like that with an 18 y/o. I don't even like being around people younger than 21 let alone around them in "sexual" or "edgy" situations. I have friends who are 18-21 in age but I always have them in the appropriate situations that they should be in. I know when I have to take responsibility for others due to a maturity standpoint.
Shane knew what he was doing with someone who could finally be messed with because of the person turning legal.
Legal doesn't mean mature.
Legal doesn't mean equal.
Legal doesn't mean responsible.
Legal doesn't mean consent.
Shane knows. Shane didn't care. Shane got what he wanted.
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I always cringe so hard at this specific topic
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This is the first time I've heard about the fact that tana did not pee on Shane but it was for content is this known and I just live under a rock or did she just disclose that for the first time?
And if that was new info it totally seemed like she was trying to change the narrative for Shane. That statement didn't sit right with me.
7:14 agree with you whole heartedly
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Shane was 28 not 30x that’s like saying 18 year old Tana was 20. It was said by Tana and you kept saying 30
But Shane’s always been a creep. If he can act young cus he’s hanging out with young people can teachers?? No. Stop bein creeps
Tana is cool
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Wow. Tana sounds Grown
She been smoking that pac
I have to disagree for once. Tana was 18. She got on Shane and laughed til she peed and he said he could feel it. You find that terrifying? What the heck? She was a legal adult, who cares what she does? She could have been doing a lot worse at that age.
Just cause things could be worse doesnt make what shane did any less fucked up and wrong as fuck and fucking creepy dude idk why the fuck you dont care bout this, its not okay
a whole 28 year old who knew tana BEFORE she was 18. it was all predatory.
Its not normal
@@afallingstarfell so what? She was 18 at the time.
@@dragoncup9099 no, but that doesn’t mean it’s predatory. I just think there’s a lot worse things going on in the world than a stupid joke like this. I think people are just acting like it’s terrible just to have something to act appalled over. It’s not that serious.
You gotta think, whiles it’s not an excuse obviously, she grew up very fast. She probably felt 18 at 14 or near to. Hanging out with older people is normal by then, the dr*gs she was doing and crazy nights out were normal already. She can’t rationalize this situation because she really can’t with her own.
Anyone think Shane groomed Tana?
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I was 22 when the video came out. At the time, I didn’t think much of it. I never thought about how much older shane was than the people he usually surrounded himself with. I had watched him since I was…12/13. Never really understood how it could be wrong. Now at 28…well really around 25/26 I started to shift my opinions. His casual bullying of friends and the perverted shit just clicked. He hasn’t changed a bit but they’ll always be other underage people who just don’t get it yet. He lives off of kids who don’t know better.
HOLY SHIT ONE MINUTE AGO
I feel like tana is criticizing Shane by saying he had a lot of growing up to do and that he was in a mind set at that age
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Umm the fact that I have no idea what my own comment means or when I accidentally submitted that and that's the comment I get a like from Adam is this "mystery comment "
Shane is just damn gross. Always has been. There’s a huge difference between dark humor and perversion. We all know which Shane is 🙄
what about Hila is so captivating? All I hear from the comment section and from Adam is that she's so pretty. Yeah shes pretty, but there are other influencers and normal people that are way more prettier that her.
i just complimented her ur comment is so deep for no reason
Who even cares
First of all, cause she is pretty. They are allowed to compliment her, its actually kind and sweet to me. Secondly, aside from her being Ethans wife and a host, so they are going to compliment her, people who beef with Ethan ALWAYS insult her looks. It partly to me almost like reassuring her that thats not true, she is very pretty, and just them trying to offend Ethan.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think hila has a pretty nice face. If you don't think she's *that* pretty, isn't that a good thing? Since she'll never be yours? Less people to opine for
People are just creeps. It always makes my skin crawl when people go on about how beautiful Hila is. It’s way too much guys, quit objectifying her
When is someone gonna make a compilation of every time shane was inappropriate towards real kids and just get him in jail finally
He needs to get fucking shut down
This
Playing Warframe and hearing "muckers" felt strange for a minute 😂