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Nice comparison video. One elephant in the room that wasn't addressed was the cost of lenses. Some of those canon lenses that Chelsea was using cost way more than the Panasonic body and lens combined. For many of us that expensive canon L glass is far out of reach.
Yeah the g9ii is definitely what I'd get or recommend for the enthusiast sports and wildlife shooter. The bang for buck is just excellent. I started out on canon but I'm just tired of the upselling game. The reason there's no pro level apsc lenses is because they want you to buy their expensive glass and then when you have the expensive glass you may as well upgrade to the expensive body to make the best use of it. Fuji is a great example of an apsc body with pro glass options from a plethora of manufacturers. Canon's game breaks down if you can get an r7 or r10 with an rf sigma 100-400 for $800 used. Now you have an option over their lens that's f8 on the long end and has no water or dust protection (on a "wildlife" lens?!). And you wouldn't buy theirs and think "gee I need to upgrade to the $2600 100-500 to make best use of the native mount and get the better IQ and weather sealing" or if that's too expensive you need to buy their adapter and use the sigma EF lens that Sony and Fuji and Panasonic all let you shoot native (not to mention you can shoot the same EF lens on full AF-C on Panasonic anyways).
I think that’s what keeps hapenning to me. I put the 100-500L and the R8 in the cart, then end up buying pro mft gear for a third of the price. I never see a professional lens on ff that is not 2 thousands dollars.
Hi Tony, the G9II has a dedicated animal eye AF mode. Personal opinion: I don't think you get the whole MFT thing. Which is fine and understandable. As an R7 user, I am very seriously considering the G9II. As a hiker who often walks around 10 miles plus, I loved shooting with the original G9. I also like the deeper DoF. It helped me think differently about balancing a landscape & wildlife in my compositions, which may help people stand out a bit. Anyways, other than the small mistake, this was a fun video as usual. :)
Yep, Tony hates MFT but he cant tell it like it is. So he takes the worst picturse imaginable with MFT and then shows those. Its really wierd, that other wildlife photographers can take incredible images with their MFT gear, but Tony always gets those blurry and not sharp ones LOL - Maybe the camera is not the problem? Haha
I agree with you about the DoF. People are obsessed with bokeh. So it is kind of refreshing seeing nice, thought out compositions where you can actually see most of the frame and construct a story in your head.
G9 II 100% has eyes detect autofocus which means the settings were incorrect and they don’t know how work this camera. This review is inaccurate and should be taken down.
It’s still hanging by a thread. Sigma is dropping micro four thirds, Panasonic is putting out like one M43 every couple years, and OM Systems is basically just releasing minor firmware updates with a different logo.
M43 is vital and up-to-date with the GH6, the G9 mkII, and let's not forget the OM1 and the OM5 (only 420 grams). Top quality with bodies and lenses that allow for convenient travel without intimidating others. In many ways, it's an alternative to the overblown full-frame trend: I myself recently switched back from Sony full-frame to M43.
@@nndoorgaans Pretty tired of TH-camrs just not understanding M43 and dismissing it because all they care about is bokeh and lowlight. Saying the G9ii is a big body for M43 is missing the point... It's actually smaller and lighter than the GH5 but its still a small and light camera and the real weight savings in M43 has ALWAYS been its lenses. The Panasonic 100-400 is microscopic in comparison to a FF 200-800.... Which doesn't even exist so its comparison is actually a 200-600, you miss out on an extra 200mm and its still smaller, lighter and cheaper! Noise performance is acceptable for the general use of photography... which is in good light. and if you're having to push it, AI denoising and upscaling these days is amazing you can really push these thing. I don't understand why TH-camrs cant seem to understand the benefit of a system designed specifically to be high performing yet small and light and why they can and should co-exist with bigger and more powerful systems. Pristine image quality isn't always the highest priority. If it was we should all be carrying around medium format cameras or 4x5 large format cameras...
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528they literally say that it’s actually not that big and that the lenses are really light and small. You can’t even watch 5 seconds past the point where you get butthurt
@@kart182 I wasn't referring to this video specifically but the general discourse around the G9ii and the size of its body. If you go and watch bunch of reviews and comments made about the camera at release you will see it said time and time again that it's body is too big... despite the fact its not.
I'm so disappointed that the fantastic OM1 isn't mentioned. It's as if OM systems doesn't exist for Chelsea and Tony. Tony said regarding bird tracking that the Pansaonic G9II "could be your best choice in the micro 43 world" and for M43 users "this is the camera to have". I think this is very unfair on the OM1.
I am not sure why you didn't use the live view composite mode instead of doing a manual composite with an ND filter. Also not sure why the details comparison at 15:15 is comparing an ISO 1250 image to an ISO 800 image. It seems this comparison should have been done with both cameras using the same manual settings.
As an OM-1 user, I was wondering about this too. I'd love to see a real world comparison. The OM-1 has less MP, but it is a very well-rounded camera. Admittedly, its focus (see what I did there?) isn't on video. So the G9 ii will win that category rather handily. Focusing on stills though, I think it would be a much closer match.
How is the G9 II’s autofocus for under 60 fps? If the issue is that it’s lagging, I think it would be interesting to see how taking some of the load off of the processor helps the camera
for sub $2000 cameras, R7 is the most well-rounded crop camera on the market right now. also OM-1 is the most underrated crop camera in this price range . meanwhile , nikon is the only one left who have no answer for sub-$2000 mirrorless crop camera yet. and i think we will not see any from nikon until late 2024 .
I agree as to the OM-1. There is a huge amount of data on it online varied between written guides, TH-cam videos, and OM Systems guides as well. It's such a capable camera. I feel it's a shame it gets overlooked so often. I also wish Nikon would come out with something that's less expensive. Getting into their stuff is far too expensive, or I'd have done so.
@@questioneverything680 It has some APS-C mirrorless cameras, I think its first predates Canon APS-C R series. I would not buy either one, they don't support their APS-C cameras with APS-C lenses.
@@jonathanscherer8567 But, according to what several users say, the OM1 have problems with autofocus, and many times the focus goes to the background ignoring the subject in the foreground. It's strange because in previous models that didn't happen.
This may be unrelated to this video, but I love the interaction between Tony and Chelsea in their videos. This reviews and comparisons are very fun (love the personification of cameras on Tony and Chelsea). And I love when they agree and/or disagree on some topic. I watch your videos for the reviews to make a choice, but mainly to have fun. Thanks!
It should be compared to the OM-1. Also, a revisit to the animal autofocus with eye detection should be done. M43 is not dying or going anywhere anytime soon.
I still like my OM-1. The built-in ND options are more useful than you might think. Stabilization is really good. I'm also liking starry sky autofocus. It's such a different experience from trying to focus on stars manually. I do wonder how the G9 ii handles fast readout when capturing 60fps with C-AF. It doesn't have a stacked sensor but seems to be rated at pretty high speeds. The OM-1 has less MP with a stacked sensor but is still limited to 50fps with C-AF. The 25MP sensor isn't Sony, so can't be marketed as BSI, but I wonder if it utilizes a similar technology. Regardless, with dual gain what have you, and it might have good dynamic range.
I think I heard somewhere Panasonic had a new patent for an internal ND mechanism, so maybe it's something they'll get on their next GH series camera. I agree though, it would be pretty handy.
@@laurentldoldi840 They don't advertise this. I wonder why. I've never seen any accounts of people using it either. Though I can believe it's there. Panasonic just spends far more time talking about their video features.
It's nice to see you guys using Mavin filters. I love mine. The Panasonic looks really poor in these tests. I read another comment that said it does have eye-detect on birds, that could help. Virtually every Panasonic bird photo in the video seemed soft. I do realize that some were 6x zooms. I shoot sports often with my R7 but NEVER in electronic shutter mode. The 15 fps mechanical shutter is plenty fast and has zero distortion problems. I'm still waiting on a full review including wildlife and macro from you two of the OM-1, a micro 4/3s camera that might actually be able to beat and maybe even crush the R7. Thank you!
I don't know if Tony has ever used an OM-1, but I remember a comment of someone who shot it and the Sony A1. The OM camera supposedly locked on to a bird before the Sony did. I think the Lumix G9 II may not be up to the OM-1 standards for wildlife. Has anybody here had experience with Sony and OM Systems in this area?
Looking at other reviews which compare the g9 II to the OM-1, the g9 wins in almost all categories especially autofocus (when you use the correct settings), video quality, dynamic range, overall speed and buffer size and price. Beside the live bulb and ND feature there is actually not much left which is better).
@@camerascanfly have not seen all the major reviews but many have been based on superficial specs comparisons, not actual field performance. There is much to like about the G9II (video, buffer size) and am happy there's competition, but a lot of the conclusions are premature. There are OM-1 features for wildlife photography that many non-daily OM users have never been aware of (customized AF area shapes, AF distance limiter) that are unavailable other systems that have been critical in getting the difficult shots other systems struggle to make. Also the OM lens array for wildlife are superior, but if the G9II can fully use their capabilities then it's a non-issue. Again, the G9II is a compelling camera, but the serious tests are yet to be made (Duade Paton's initial test shows promise in future serious testing) before such a conclusion can be made.
It is now about 3 years since I sold off my Canon full frame & APSC (1Dx & 7D II) and my L glass, and invested in MFT (Lumix G9 & mix of Lumix, Olympus, Laowa, Sigma, Voigtlander lenses) plus I adapt my Zeiss & Nikkor glass, plus Canon tilt/shift. Best decision of my life. The smaller lenses is a big deal. The lens choices is a big deal. I look forward to being able to afford the G9 II at some point.
I don’t think you mentioned the OM-1 as a main competitor. How would that camera compare for photography specifically? Also, which 70-200 equivalent lens did you have on the Canon R7?
When you were in face detection did you click on your face? It will then lock on. This was a fix for the old G9 and it would then ignore the background. Only issue was the old phase detect pulse.
Another request for a comparison with the OM-1. I don't have the ability to do careful, specific focus test but it does well focusing with wildlife. The ProCapture feature is amazing. The And it has numerous cool computational photography features, like live ND. Great image stabilization, et., etc. It seems a glaring oversight not to include it in the comparison.
A comparison with the Sony a6700 would have been more interesting to me personally. They are almost the same price, both record 4k 120 and have a stellar autofocus.
i agree very odd not to use an A6700, it's AI autofocus makes the Canon look poor, I owned the R7 and have upgraded to A6700 for less money. As for Pansonic autofocus no surprises, you cant enter a race 5 to 10 years late and expect to compete with companies who are already using more advanced tech than just phase detect. As for that multi image merge rubbish i expected to see that in history books not being used today.
Tony comparing the image quality of the 100mp stacked image mode to the r7 standard photo quality is disingenuous. You need to straight up compare the normal photo mode of the image sensors and not a special, not normally used mode in order to call supremacy.
Exactly, and it is a comparison that he did not make and it was the most interesting to see, since you will not take all the photos stacked. Maybe I've shown it as irony all the work you had to do to make a "superior" photo in post processing.
The launch of the G9II is a significant boost for the m43 community. Recently, I've made a full transition back from Sony FF to m43. Virtually everything you can do with Fullframe can also be achieved with m43, but with less weight (which becomes increasingly important as you get older) and less intimidating to the surroundings. The video quality of the GH6 is impressive and fantastic to work with. However, compact and yet excellent cameras like the GX9 are pleasant companions for a day out. Naturally, the G9II (with its much-improved AF) is on my wishlist, along with the highly underrated OM5 from OM systems (420 grams). The latter camera is a hybrid marvel when it comes to both photo and video (4K and 120 FPS HD) in a small and lightweight body. Try capturing a handheld video with panning using a Sony (e.g., the zv1 or the a7c); it's quite challenging. The OM5 can do it, and, of course, the G9II can as well. Hopefully, Panasonic will continue to innovate and soon release a GX9 mkII and/or a G90 mkII.
It's not the body--it's the smaller/lighter lenses that is the raison d'être for MFT! I much prefer the way my G9 I feels to any OM or Sony "FF" body as I find the latter too small for comfort/security. I also much prefer MFT to any other format for a number of reasons, but that's a topic best discussed separately. Also, there are many aspects of the G9 II not covered here (e.g., low light/high-ISO performance improvements). I have the "old" Leica 100-400 and am considering the new one as it's up to 2X TC-compatible, so that's 1,600mm EFL (while retaining the 1.3m/4.27' minimum focusing distance for a 1.0X true macro from a "safe" distance--compare that to APS-C, much less "FF"). I'm considering the "Mk II" (as well as the Mk III version of the 35-100 f/2.8) when I get my G9 II, but I'd like to see more reviews first. BtW, I've very rarely experienced rolling shutter with my G9 I, and I almost always use the e-shutter. I'll have to check out those Maven filters.
At 15:00 . You Said, the Panasonic has lower Details. The Pictures are Taken by ISO 1250. The Canon Had ISO 1000. That is one of the anwsers for the lower Details.
Thx for your Video, great to see that you do MFT Stuff without bashing. Just on question, why do you think that this camera is the best choice in the MFT System over the OM-1?
For someone that isn't into professional photography and treats it more as a hobby and is wanting to upgrade from a G85 would the original G9 suffice over the G9 ii?
I had the G85 and bought a second hand G9 a year ago. Enjoying it a lot so far. To me, it's not been a huge upgrade over the G85, but to what extent it may be also depend on your use cases. There are some details on the G9 that I like a lot, e g. the joystick. Other capabilities I don't even take advantage of. I don't need more than 10 frames per second. I definitely won't upgrade to the G9 II anytime soon but may look at picking up a used one in a couple of years. It's too bad the G9 II doesn't have the topside settings display anymore. That's another detail that has given me extra value over the G85. I'd say for a hobby user, even the upgrade from the G85 to a 1st gen G9 is not really necessary. You don't stand to gain a lot that really matters in casual use.
I think it depends on your usage. I made the same switch several years ago, and for me the G9 is superior in every possible way. Its handling and ergonomics are a huge step up, especially if you use it with longer lenses. Maybe even as good as the D300 I loved so much years ago. If you have small hands or shoot mostly with smaller lenses, that may not be a benefit for you. The EVF, IBIS and AF are also far better than the G85. At current prices it’s a bargain. I eventually switched to an Olympus body only to get better AF and sync IS with my 300 f/4 lens. Sadly in many other ways it was a downgrade from the G9. Having said all that, I would only upgrade your body if you already have high quality lenses. My 300mm lens is really the heart of my system. I just buy bodies that are compatible with it 🙂
Great that you both, wildlive photographers, compared the Canon R7 and Panasonic G9 II for the entry level or budget wildlife shooters. ISO noise, ISO invariance and dynamic range of GH6, which the sensor of the camera is based, was worse then the previous GH5. How is this compared?
Neither is entry level. The claim is 13 stops for this camera. It has a better implementation of dual ISO. I concentrate on getting correct exposures, I don't care about ISO invariance.
I can hear all the Micro Four Thirds lovers out there rejoice! For some time now, the GH5 was the last prosumer camera everyone was using to make content and then overtaken by Canon's and Sony's cameras; it looks like Panasonic did it again. Slaps knee!
Most reviews of this camera don't mention om-1 -wonder if this is intentional requirement from panasonic or reviewers dont want to drag this product down (not that it worse - it is just late)
Tony and Chelsea, thanks for your excellent early review of the Panasonic G9 ii using pre-production firmware. I am convinced that the G9 ii is an awesome upgrade from the original Panasonic G9 in nearly all respects. However, with the new 25.2 MP dual-gain sensor on the G9 ii, I hope you might publish information about how the G9 ii image quality (with final production firmware) compares with the OM-1 and the original Panasonic G9 - across all ISO settings.
As an owner of the G9 and other m4/3 cameras I am very interested in this interested, but will wait to see AF improvements in firmware first and maybe a minor price drop. However, I am very disappointed at the less flexible, non - tilting rear screen of this camera, which is a no-brainer for photographers who want maximum operational flexibility.
There's also the OM 1 and its lenses. It also would be interesting to use Lumix lenses on the OM 1 and vice versa. I think those are the real competitors because the lenses are interchangeable. T & C apply.
Thanks for the great video. When videos in general get longish I tune outish, but I stayed with this one to the end. I have an R5, er, HAD an R5 until it went to KEH yesterday, and an R6 II. Glad to see Canon doing well in your tests.
As someone who owned and loved the original G9 I am pleased that Panasonic have brought it up to date with the mk2 version. However, I now own the OM1 and there is nothing that the G9ii has to offer that trumps it apart from maybe the extra megapixels which I doubt will overshadow the OM1’s BSI stacked sensor. The G9ii feature is excellent but still can’t match the OM1 on that measure either. What also surprises me is Tony’s apparent enthusiasm for the G9ii given that he has many times dismissed MFT cameras!!!
Does the OM1 have the built in LUTs? That's a big one especially for video. Having the ability to install pre selected LUTs is huge and also for photography. I use an M50 for sports shooting mainly but looking at either the OM1 or the G9II now
I’m an mft user, and I think the comparison works, it shows people that if they are in between these 2 because they think the difference is going to be huge, they better go to the R6ii. That’s when I start noticing that there is an advantage in everything but reach. My dream setup would be to carry 70-200 or 100-400 with an r6 body, and 100-400 on mft. That way you really get all the detail if close enough,or get the most mp of an image of a bird far away while keeping the lenses easy to carry.
Massive improvement in auto focus for the Lumix for sure. Do you think that micro jitter that happened with moving targets will get improved with firmware update?
All the other reviews of this camera I've seen had the animal detect AF finding the animal/bird's eye flawlessly (and drawing a box around it, rather than the whole animal), so I wonder if you didn't have something configured right.
Tony loves to trounce Canon these days. You can pretty much tell which camera is going to win right at the beginning. After having the R7 for several months now I wouldn't trade it for the Panasonic at this point.
Just got the g9mkii and out of the box I checked the software version, and it was dated. I download the up-to-date version and the subject tracking is and I hate to say this, but it is better than my OM1. The first 2 frames were where soft of 20 total shots of than incoming bird
From what I've read it can be used for filmmaking. Not for a big Hollywood production but for all of us low budget filmmakers and documentary stuff as well. The video out of this camera is really good.
Still too big for adventurers IMO, but a lovely camera for front country etc. will see what changes with any new firmware upgrades…always needed. Tony the M43 good cop today!
I think the fact that it was pre production was a big disadvantage. It has eye detect. I think there have also been improvements in video capabilities since then.
Tony & Chelsea you are going to make a lot of friends with people who shoot m43 cameras with positive reviews like these. They will forgive you guys for what you said in the past. By the way, the OM-1 has the Live ND equivalent of ND6 filter. You can take that waterfall with much less effort and spend no time in the post computer stacking. Nice comparison review!
Unfortunately, the cost of new cameras is prohibitive to most as we move into a major recession, depression. Apple's new headset for virtual computing starts at $3,500. Who has that kind of cash? Most of us are hobbyists and need a good camera (maybe used or out of date) to make the experience fun, not the other way around. So what used cameras would you suggest? I shoot with a Canon 70D.
@@truthseeker6804 Thanks for the sound device. However, I really like to keep my old glass (and add to it perhaps). Purchasing new glass as a hobbyist just doesn’t make sense. Matter of fact, the opposite might be true. The Canon 90D would product fantastic shots, 4K video, and afford my old glass. On the other hand, if the only reason that I want to jump from my 70D to a new body is for 10 extra megapixels, lighter camera, and 4K video, then like you suggested and stick to the M50 body. To be honest, I wonder how well older photos taken with a 70D look using Topaz or some other photo enhancement program. Is A.I. about to correct equipment limitations? That sounds like a great new video that you could make. Again, thanks for the advice and I hall weigh all my options as a hobby.
@@jroar123 Yes, your point of view is interesting. I have a short budget and I stayed in the 12 MPX era, I use Nikon D700, Olympus Pen and Pentax, Q, all with different sensor sizes but the same resolution. The Pentax Q's smaller sensor has its noise problems even at low ISO. But with Topaz the improvement is very good, and using the sliders moderately so that it is an extraterrestrial result. Even for certain types of shots where depth of field is required I can say that the Pentax Q plus Topaz Denoise standard outperforms the D700. Of course, if I had to take portraits I would choose the D700. But the differences in the final results, which exist, are sometimes very marginal.And it surprises me what a little camera like the Pentax Q and its system can still deliver. It's a shame there aren't more cameras like this currently being manufactured.
Too bad you missed on the new af objectives like animal eyes. But still like your comparison 😌. I also wonder the bird in the sky that misfocussed was on afc or AFS. I guess AFS is still dfd like the s5II and the afc is phase detect.
@@TonyAndChelseaTony I watched your video regarding the iPhone 15 Pro Max, would that mean if I crop in or digitally zoom into 120mm on an iPhone 15 Pro that I would get the same image Qaulity as the 15 Pro Max.
the Canon lenses are much larger and cost WAY more. The canon also has has the rolling shutter problems. How is the weather sealing on the canon? Panasonic is usually really good. Also how is the audio quality? Panasonic hiatorically has really good audio pre-amps and their prpfession XLR hotshoe accesorie. Several canon cameras have been shown to have noisy pre-amps and poor audio features. If anyone has insight to those categories, please comment. Thanks
The R7 was surprisingly soft... it's a shame you can't test it with a pro-grade APS-C lens. You're asking that FF lens to resolve for the equivalent of an 85 megapixel FF sensor. I guess I'd expect some Canon RF L glass to support that, and maybe more, so maybe that's not it, but it was kind of surprising. I have found HHHR to be effective on Olympus, as long as nothing's moving much, so sure, that's also a factor.
No, the lens is resolving for FF R mount sensors, th APS-C camera only uses part of the image. You get exactly the same results cropping an image from, say, the R5 proportionately.
What a pity that alwys these types of comparations miss the night photography! Why dont you make a video to talk and review ONLY night fotography at total darkness for me to decide whats the best for the task. What I mean is, a group of cameras that will be good or great for the night. I watch your videos from Germany, they are just great! Thanks for the efforst and time you put on us. I wish you both a great day there! many greetings to you both, Alfredo.
The eyes were somewhat in shadow in the running shots owing to the baseball cap's peak - would be interesting to see the results in different lighting conditions for both cameras.
But, look at the sizes of the lens. Not much difference now in camera body sizes. Apsc and full frame lenses are HUGE. Tthe lens size is now what i go on. Compare the olympus 12-45mm to anything other than micro 43rds.
F22 for your Waterfall shot is just plain wrong - makes the camera resolution look like total crap!! I shoot Olympus 8-25mm on Pany G9 at F5.6 (FF equivalent to F11) for those types of shots. 1/15sec-1/30sec works just fine for a multiple shot stack. F22 just does not work!!!
Not only that, but he claims it’s the equivalent of f44! There is no diffraction difference between crop factors, f22 is f22 in terms of diffraction on any system.
Look art the glare coming off the book at around 16:40 in your unboxing video test. In the Panasonic shots the glare through the face on the book is far less... so this is not a fair test. The Canon shot had a lot more severe glare on the book cover and this is what made it more difficult for the Canon to focus. I'm a Micro 4/3 shooter, so I want the Panasonic to Winn in this and all other tests. In the waterfall test you dismissed the Panasonic results because of medicare filter. That's also kind of chicken s___ Tony, as you could have repeated the test from a different angle, removing the filter so you couldn't blame it on the filter.
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The G9 HAS eye focus in bird mode Tony. Dive in to the settings and you’ll find it. It works great. It finds the eye really fast.
It’s really embarrassing that they forgot to turn on eye detect…
Yeah definitely a miss by Tony here. Must be set for animal only, not animal/eye which is there as an option
Would the running shots have been better? Did they also not set eye detect here…?
What about human eye AF?😅
I think we should demand a rematch on the eye detect .
Nice comparison video. One elephant in the room that wasn't addressed was the cost of lenses. Some of those canon lenses that Chelsea was using cost way more than the Panasonic body and lens combined. For many of us that expensive canon L glass is far out of reach.
And look at the massive sizes of the Canon stuff. Way Way too big.
Yeah the g9ii is definitely what I'd get or recommend for the enthusiast sports and wildlife shooter. The bang for buck is just excellent.
I started out on canon but I'm just tired of the upselling game. The reason there's no pro level apsc lenses is because they want you to buy their expensive glass and then when you have the expensive glass you may as well upgrade to the expensive body to make the best use of it. Fuji is a great example of an apsc body with pro glass options from a plethora of manufacturers. Canon's game breaks down if you can get an r7 or r10 with an rf sigma 100-400 for $800 used. Now you have an option over their lens that's f8 on the long end and has no water or dust protection (on a "wildlife" lens?!). And you wouldn't buy theirs and think "gee I need to upgrade to the $2600 100-500 to make best use of the native mount and get the better IQ and weather sealing" or if that's too expensive you need to buy their adapter and use the sigma EF lens that Sony and Fuji and Panasonic all let you shoot native (not to mention you can shoot the same EF lens on full AF-C on Panasonic anyways).
I think that’s what keeps hapenning to me. I put the 100-500L and the R8 in the cart, then end up buying pro mft gear for a third of the price. I never see a professional lens on ff that is not 2 thousands dollars.
Hi Tony, the G9II has a dedicated animal eye AF mode. Personal opinion: I don't think you get the whole MFT thing. Which is fine and understandable. As an R7 user, I am very seriously considering the G9II. As a hiker who often walks around 10 miles plus, I loved shooting with the original G9. I also like the deeper DoF. It helped me think differently about balancing a landscape & wildlife in my compositions, which may help people stand out a bit. Anyways, other than the small mistake, this was a fun video as usual. :)
Yep, Tony hates MFT but he cant tell it like it is. So he takes the worst picturse imaginable with MFT and then shows those. Its really wierd, that other wildlife photographers can take incredible images with their MFT gear, but Tony always gets those blurry and not sharp ones LOL - Maybe the camera is not the problem? Haha
I agree with you about the DoF. People are obsessed with bokeh. So it is kind of refreshing seeing nice, thought out compositions where you can actually see most of the frame and construct a story in your head.
@@kevtiko Was a wedding photographer. M43 is the way to go for group shots. Truer focus and no need to worry about dof.
What is the ‘ whole mft’ thing ?
@@atanuhalder7750mft or m43 just means micro four thirds. It's a sensor size that is pretty much half the size of full frame.
Didn't you declare MFT dead a couple of years ago? Yes. Yes you did.
its alive now since they put phase detection auto focus
MFT was truly not very lively at the time ..
G9 II 100% has eyes detect autofocus which means the settings were incorrect and they don’t know how work this camera. This review is inaccurate and should be taken down.
It’s still hanging by a thread. Sigma is dropping micro four thirds, Panasonic is putting out like one M43 every couple years, and OM Systems is basically just releasing minor firmware updates with a different logo.
I think they admitted that it's a mistake. 😅
I thought micro four thirds was dead, at least that’s what you said Tony.
Also he bashed nikon in many instances which I think uncalled for
M43 is vital and up-to-date with the GH6, the G9 mkII, and let's not forget the OM1 and the OM5 (only 420 grams). Top quality with bodies and lenses that allow for convenient travel without intimidating others. In many ways, it's an alternative to the overblown full-frame trend: I myself recently switched back from Sony full-frame to M43.
@@nndoorgaans Pretty tired of TH-camrs just not understanding M43 and dismissing it because all they care about is bokeh and lowlight. Saying the G9ii is a big body for M43 is missing the point... It's actually smaller and lighter than the GH5 but its still a small and light camera and the real weight savings in M43 has ALWAYS been its lenses. The Panasonic 100-400 is microscopic in comparison to a FF 200-800.... Which doesn't even exist so its comparison is actually a 200-600, you miss out on an extra 200mm and its still smaller, lighter and cheaper! Noise performance is acceptable for the general use of photography... which is in good light. and if you're having to push it, AI denoising and upscaling these days is amazing you can really push these thing. I don't understand why TH-camrs cant seem to understand the benefit of a system designed specifically to be high performing yet small and light and why they can and should co-exist with bigger and more powerful systems. Pristine image quality isn't always the highest priority. If it was we should all be carrying around medium format cameras or 4x5 large format cameras...
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528they literally say that it’s actually not that big and that the lenses are really light and small. You can’t even watch 5 seconds past the point where you get butthurt
@@kart182 I wasn't referring to this video specifically but the general discourse around the G9ii and the size of its body. If you go and watch bunch of reviews and comments made about the camera at release you will see it said time and time again that it's body is too big... despite the fact its not.
I'm so disappointed that the fantastic OM1 isn't mentioned. It's as if OM systems doesn't exist for Chelsea and Tony. Tony said regarding bird tracking that the Pansaonic G9II "could be your best choice in the micro 43 world" and for M43 users "this is the camera to have". I think this is very unfair on the OM1.
Tony touting an M43 camera. Now I’ve seen everything.
Would love to see a comparison versus the Om-1.
Not a bad idea
now the om1 mark 2...love to see g9 mk2 vs om1 mk2.
I am not sure why you didn't use the live view composite mode instead of doing a manual composite with an ND filter. Also not sure why the details comparison at 15:15 is comparing an ISO 1250 image to an ISO 800 image. It seems this comparison should have been done with both cameras using the same manual settings.
Maybe you should reconsider your position on the future of micro four thirds 😀
WOW, it's crazy how much they neglected the biggest rival, the OM-1 ...
Not wild. Obvious
Just thought the same, like it would not exist ^^
They went for what sell, affiliate links kill the objectivity..
As an OM-1 user, I was wondering about this too. I'd love to see a real world comparison. The OM-1 has less MP, but it is a very well-rounded camera. Admittedly, its focus (see what I did there?) isn't on video. So the G9 ii will win that category rather handily. Focusing on stills though, I think it would be a much closer match.
Om-1 not in same league
It's a shame that they didn't test the stablization for walking footage. g92 has the best stablization against the Z axis shake from walking.
Why not put the G9 II up against the OM-1 ?
How is the G9 II’s autofocus for under 60 fps? If the issue is that it’s lagging, I think it would be interesting to see how taking some of the load off of the processor helps the camera
It's load off the lens too. Would have been very sensible to test indeed.
Yeah it's probably the lens drive contributing to missed af at 60fps. Should test 30fps.
for sub $2000 cameras, R7 is the most well-rounded crop camera on the market right now. also OM-1 is the most underrated crop camera in this price range . meanwhile , nikon is the only one left who have no answer for sub-$2000 mirrorless crop camera yet. and i think we will not see any from nikon until late 2024 .
As much as I would love to see a mirrorless d500, I feel like Nikon is gonna continue with making only full frame cameras
I agree as to the OM-1. There is a huge amount of data on it online varied between written guides, TH-cam videos, and OM Systems guides as well. It's such a capable camera. I feel it's a shame it gets overlooked so often. I also wish Nikon would come out with something that's less expensive. Getting into their stuff is far too expensive, or I'd have done so.
@@questioneverything680 It has some APS-C mirrorless cameras, I think its first predates Canon APS-C R series.
I would not buy either one, they don't support their APS-C cameras with APS-C lenses.
@@jonathanscherer8567 But, according to what several users say, the OM1 have problems with autofocus, and many times the focus goes to the background ignoring the subject in the foreground. It's strange because in previous models that didn't happen.
The R7 has no lenses available!!!!
This may be unrelated to this video, but I love the interaction between Tony and Chelsea in their videos. This reviews and comparisons are very fun (love the personification of cameras on Tony and Chelsea). And I love when they agree and/or disagree on some topic. I watch your videos for the reviews to make a choice, but mainly to have fun. Thanks!
Well, they ARE married. They seem like a good couple.
It should be compared to the OM-1. Also, a revisit to the animal autofocus with eye detection should be done. M43 is not dying or going anywhere anytime soon.
I still like my OM-1. The built-in ND options are more useful than you might think. Stabilization is really good. I'm also liking starry sky autofocus. It's such a different experience from trying to focus on stars manually. I do wonder how the G9 ii handles fast readout when capturing 60fps with C-AF. It doesn't have a stacked sensor but seems to be rated at pretty high speeds. The OM-1 has less MP with a stacked sensor but is still limited to 50fps with C-AF. The 25MP sensor isn't Sony, so can't be marketed as BSI, but I wonder if it utilizes a similar technology. Regardless, with dual gain what have you, and it might have good dynamic range.
I think I heard somewhere Panasonic had a new patent for an internal ND mechanism, so maybe it's something they'll get on their next GH series camera. I agree though, it would be pretty handy.
Have you watched The Micro Four Thirds “Flagship Showdown OM1 vs G9II “ ?
You might still change your mind
@@A2Z1Two3 Which video was that? I've seen about all of the preliminary ones on the G9 ii.
starry sky autofocus exists on the G9-II (I have it).
@@laurentldoldi840 They don't advertise this. I wonder why. I've never seen any accounts of people using it either. Though I can believe it's there. Panasonic just spends far more time talking about their video features.
It's nice to see you guys using Mavin filters. I love mine. The Panasonic looks really poor in these tests. I read another comment that said it does have eye-detect on birds, that could help. Virtually every Panasonic bird photo in the video seemed soft. I do realize that some were 6x zooms. I shoot sports often with my R7 but NEVER in electronic shutter mode. The 15 fps mechanical shutter is plenty fast and has zero distortion problems. I'm still waiting on a full review including wildlife and macro from you two of the OM-1, a micro 4/3s camera that might actually be able to beat and maybe even crush the R7. Thank you!
A bird photographer I follow sold his A9 II and lenses, preferring the OM 1 and 150-400.
I don't know if Tony has ever used an OM-1, but I remember a comment of someone who shot it and the Sony A1. The OM camera supposedly locked on to a bird before the Sony did. I think the Lumix G9 II may not be up to the OM-1 standards for wildlife. Has anybody here had experience with Sony and OM Systems in this area?
G9 II as best m43 option for wildlife? Tony and Chelsea have never heard of the OM-1.
Looking at other reviews which compare the g9 II to the OM-1, the g9 wins in almost all categories especially autofocus (when you use the correct settings), video quality, dynamic range, overall speed and buffer size and price. Beside the live bulb and ND feature there is actually not much left which is better).
@@camerascanfly have not seen all the major reviews but many have been based on superficial specs comparisons, not actual field performance. There is much to like about the G9II (video, buffer size) and am happy there's competition, but a lot of the conclusions are premature. There are OM-1 features for wildlife photography that many non-daily OM users have never been aware of (customized AF area shapes, AF distance limiter) that are unavailable other systems that have been critical in getting the difficult shots other systems struggle to make. Also the OM lens array for wildlife are superior, but if the G9II can fully use their capabilities then it's a non-issue. Again, the G9II is a compelling camera, but the serious tests are yet to be made (Duade Paton's initial test shows promise in future serious testing) before such a conclusion can be made.
G9ii is just glorious. Proud Lumix user since 2009! Never looked back.
great cameras, that's until you attempt to shoot in low light... 💀
@@AndiGomez-yu2dxM43 has gotten way better with that.
@@AndiGomez-yu2dx not a problem using a Zuiko 17mm f/1.2 on my G9-II LOL
It is now about 3 years since I sold off my Canon full frame & APSC (1Dx & 7D II) and my L glass, and invested in MFT (Lumix G9 & mix of Lumix, Olympus, Laowa, Sigma, Voigtlander lenses) plus I adapt my Zeiss & Nikkor glass, plus Canon tilt/shift.
Best decision of my life. The smaller lenses is a big deal. The lens choices is a big deal. I look forward to being able to afford the G9 II at some point.
Why did you compare to the canon EOS7 and not the obvious choice OM1?
Because it was actually a comparison of MFT to APS-C
I don’t think you mentioned the OM-1 as a main competitor.
How would that camera compare for photography specifically?
Also, which 70-200 equivalent lens did you have on the Canon R7?
M4/3 isn’t dead?
Panasonic G9 mark II Malcolm Crowe
Apparently not 🤔
You didn't even consider a comparison to the OM-1?
Both MFT, both at pretty much the same price...
Do they have the Om-1?
When you were in face detection did you click on your face? It will then lock on. This was a fix for the old G9 and it would then ignore the background. Only issue was the old phase detect pulse.
What did you shoot the review on? Highlights are really blown.
On APS-C
If you buy a manual lens for wide angle, super/ultra wide angle too, you will be well served with lens options.
Another request for a comparison with the OM-1. I don't have the ability to do careful, specific focus test but it does well focusing with wildlife. The ProCapture feature is amazing. The And it has numerous cool computational photography features, like live ND. Great image stabilization, et., etc. It seems a glaring oversight not to include it in the comparison.
The G9 and G9 II have preburst.
How did you miss the eye AF on the G9ii?????
A comparison with the Sony a6700 would have been more interesting to me personally. They are almost the same price, both record 4k 120 and have a stellar autofocus.
i agree very odd not to use an A6700, it's AI autofocus makes the Canon look poor, I owned the R7 and have upgraded to A6700 for less money. As for Pansonic autofocus no surprises, you cant enter a race 5 to 10 years late and expect to compete with companies who are already using more advanced tech than just phase detect. As for that multi image merge rubbish i expected to see that in history books not being used today.
Tony comparing the image quality of the 100mp stacked image mode to the r7 standard photo quality is disingenuous.
You need to straight up compare the normal photo mode of the image sensors and not a special, not normally used mode in order to call supremacy.
Exactly, and it is a comparison that he did not make and it was the most interesting to see, since you will not take all the photos stacked. Maybe I've shown it as irony all the work you had to do to make a "superior" photo in post processing.
The launch of the G9II is a significant boost for the m43 community. Recently, I've made a full transition back from Sony FF to m43. Virtually everything you can do with Fullframe can also be achieved with m43, but with less weight (which becomes increasingly important as you get older) and less intimidating to the surroundings. The video quality of the GH6 is impressive and fantastic to work with. However, compact and yet excellent cameras like the GX9 are pleasant companions for a day out. Naturally, the G9II (with its much-improved AF) is on my wishlist, along with the highly underrated OM5 from OM systems (420 grams). The latter camera is a hybrid marvel when it comes to both photo and video (4K and 120 FPS HD) in a small and lightweight body. Try capturing a handheld video with panning using a Sony (e.g., the zv1 or the a7c); it's quite challenging. The OM5 can do it, and, of course, the G9II can as well. Hopefully, Panasonic will continue to innovate and soon release a GX9 mkII and/or a G90 mkII.
It's funny that the focusing sequences demonstrating the G9 II are so totally different from all the other reviewers. Or is it?
Why not compare with the om-1 ?
Why you don't place the OM1 which is much more superior in focus and speed vs the new G9
It's not the body--it's the smaller/lighter lenses that is the raison d'être for MFT! I much prefer the way my G9 I feels to any OM or Sony "FF" body as I find the latter too small for comfort/security. I also much prefer MFT to any other format for a number of reasons, but that's a topic best discussed separately. Also, there are many aspects of the G9 II not covered here (e.g., low light/high-ISO performance improvements).
I have the "old" Leica 100-400 and am considering the new one as it's up to 2X TC-compatible, so that's 1,600mm EFL (while retaining the 1.3m/4.27' minimum focusing distance for a 1.0X true macro from a "safe" distance--compare that to APS-C, much less "FF"). I'm considering the "Mk II" (as well as the Mk III version of the 35-100 f/2.8) when I get my G9 II, but I'd like to see more reviews first.
BtW, I've very rarely experienced rolling shutter with my G9 I, and I almost always use the e-shutter.
I'll have to check out those Maven filters.
At 15:00 . You Said, the Panasonic has lower Details.
The Pictures are Taken by ISO 1250.
The Canon Had ISO 1000.
That is one of the anwsers for the lower Details.
The latest G9 II firmware has improved AF and different Focus Subject Detection modes. Time to retest?
Thx for your Video, great to see that you do MFT Stuff without bashing. Just on question, why do you think that this camera is the best choice in the MFT System over the OM-1?
Me, I think it depends. I do landscapes, altough I have both systems, I'd choose this one. My E-M1x is going nowhere, it has GPS.
For someone that isn't into professional photography and treats it more as a hobby and is wanting to upgrade from a G85 would the original G9 suffice over the G9 ii?
I had the G85 and bought a second hand G9 a year ago. Enjoying it a lot so far. To me, it's not been a huge upgrade over the G85, but to what extent it may be also depend on your use cases. There are some details on the G9 that I like a lot, e g. the joystick. Other capabilities I don't even take advantage of. I don't need more than 10 frames per second. I definitely won't upgrade to the G9 II anytime soon but may look at picking up a used one in a couple of years. It's too bad the G9 II doesn't have the topside settings display anymore. That's another detail that has given me extra value over the G85. I'd say for a hobby user, even the upgrade from the G85 to a 1st gen G9 is not really necessary. You don't stand to gain a lot that really matters in casual use.
I think it depends on your usage. I made the same switch several years ago, and for me the G9 is superior in every possible way. Its handling and ergonomics are a huge step up, especially if you use it with longer lenses. Maybe even as good as the D300 I loved so much years ago. If you have small hands or shoot mostly with smaller lenses, that may not be a benefit for you. The EVF, IBIS and AF are also far better than the G85. At current prices it’s a bargain. I eventually switched to an Olympus body only to get better AF and sync IS with my 300 f/4 lens. Sadly in many other ways it was a downgrade from the G9.
Having said all that, I would only upgrade your body if you already have high quality lenses. My 300mm lens is really the heart of my system. I just buy bodies that are compatible with it 🙂
Is the autofocus on the G9 II as good as the OM-1?
Great that you both, wildlive photographers, compared the Canon R7 and Panasonic G9 II for the entry level or budget wildlife shooters. ISO noise, ISO invariance and dynamic range of GH6, which the sensor of the camera is based, was worse then the previous GH5. How is this compared?
Neither is entry level. The claim is 13 stops for this camera. It has a better implementation of dual ISO. I concentrate on getting correct exposures, I don't care about ISO invariance.
I can hear all the Micro Four Thirds lovers out there rejoice! For some time now, the GH5 was the last prosumer camera everyone was using to make content and then overtaken by Canon's and Sony's cameras; it looks like Panasonic did it again. Slaps knee!
Most reviews of this camera don't mention om-1 -wonder if this is intentional requirement from panasonic or reviewers dont want to drag this product down (not that it worse - it is just late)
Tony and Chelsea, thanks for your excellent early review of the Panasonic G9 ii using pre-production firmware. I am convinced that the G9 ii is an awesome upgrade from the original Panasonic G9 in nearly all respects. However, with the new 25.2 MP dual-gain sensor on the G9 ii, I hope you might publish information about how the G9 ii image quality (with final production firmware) compares with the OM-1 and the original Panasonic G9 - across all ISO settings.
As an owner of the G9 and other m4/3 cameras I am very interested in this interested, but will wait to see AF improvements in firmware first and maybe a minor price drop. However, I am very disappointed at the less flexible, non - tilting rear screen of this camera, which is a no-brainer for photographers who want maximum operational flexibility.
There's also the OM 1 and its lenses. It also would be interesting to use Lumix lenses on the OM 1 and vice versa.
I think those are the real competitors because the lenses are interchangeable. T & C apply.
I think smaller lenses for normal traveling and documenting for both stills and Video, this will be a great addition to ad to your camera bag .
Thanks for the great video. When videos in general get longish I tune outish, but I stayed with this one to the end. I have an R5, er, HAD an R5 until it went to KEH yesterday, and an R6 II. Glad to see Canon doing well in your tests.
As someone who owned and loved the original G9 I am pleased that Panasonic have brought it up to date with the mk2 version. However, I now own the OM1 and there is nothing that the G9ii has to offer that trumps it apart from maybe the extra megapixels which I doubt will overshadow the OM1’s BSI stacked sensor. The G9ii feature is excellent but still can’t match the OM1 on that measure either. What also surprises me is Tony’s apparent enthusiasm for the G9ii given that he has many times dismissed MFT cameras!!!
Does the OM1 have the built in LUTs? That's a big one especially for video. Having the ability to install pre selected LUTs is huge and also for photography.
I use an M50 for sports shooting mainly but looking at either the OM1 or the G9II now
I’m an mft user, and I think the comparison works, it shows people that if they are in between these 2 because they think the difference is going to be huge, they better go to the R6ii. That’s when I start noticing that there is an advantage in everything but reach. My dream setup would be to carry 70-200 or 100-400 with an r6 body, and 100-400 on mft. That way you really get all the detail if close enough,or get the most mp of an image of a bird far away while keeping the lenses easy to carry.
On the G9II, you can set it to focus on the eye or body of the subject. I use eye detect and it’s pretty good at tracking the eye
Massive improvement in auto focus for the Lumix for sure.
Do you think that micro jitter that happened with moving targets will get improved with firmware update?
All the other reviews of this camera I've seen had the animal detect AF finding the animal/bird's eye flawlessly (and drawing a box around it, rather than the whole animal), so I wonder if you didn't have something configured right.
Tony loves to trounce Canon these days. You can pretty much tell which camera is going to win right at the beginning. After having the R7 for several months now I wouldn't trade it for the Panasonic at this point.
Just got the g9mkii and out of the box I checked the software version, and it was dated. I download the up-to-date version and the subject tracking is and I hate to say this, but it is better than my OM1. The first 2 frames were where soft of 20 total shots of than incoming bird
I love the little multi-exposure guide at 7:20
Your comparisons with other models are always good often eye-openers!
What strap does Tony have on the G9ii?
From what I've read it can be used for filmmaking. Not for a big Hollywood production but for all of us low budget filmmakers and documentary stuff as well. The video out of this camera is really good.
nice quality video what camera recording pls let me know thanks
Still too big for adventurers IMO, but a lovely camera for front country etc. will see what changes with any new firmware upgrades…always needed. Tony the M43 good cop today!
Was your G9II a pre-production copy?
I think the fact that it was pre production was a big disadvantage. It has eye detect. I think there have also been improvements in video capabilities since then.
I just bought the GH5m2 for a very good price. I need one PZ lens for video. Which one …
Could you please consider comparing Sony A6700 with LUMIX G9 II?
Why there`s no new high-end cameras with built in GPS?
How does it work with older 4/3 lenses?
can yall test it against full frame cams? saw a vid where it yielded impressive results being sharper and more detailed than a7rv + other full frames
Tony & Chelsea you are going to make a lot of friends with people who shoot m43 cameras with positive reviews like these. They will forgive you guys for what you said in the past. By the way, the OM-1 has the Live ND equivalent of ND6 filter. You can take that waterfall with much less effort and spend no time in the post computer stacking. Nice comparison review!
Unfortunately, the cost of new cameras is prohibitive to most as we move into a major recession, depression. Apple's new headset for virtual computing starts at $3,500. Who has that kind of cash? Most of us are hobbyists and need a good camera (maybe used or out of date) to make the experience fun, not the other way around. So what used cameras would you suggest? I shoot with a Canon 70D.
Coincidentally check this out: Best $300 Budget Camera: Cheap Travel, Portraits & Video!
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coming from 70D, you should get either r7 for wildlife or r8 for most other photography and videos. if price too high, then consider r10, r50, zve10.
@@truthseeker6804 Thanks for the sound device. However, I really like to keep my old glass (and add to it perhaps). Purchasing new glass as a hobbyist just doesn’t make sense. Matter of fact, the opposite might be true. The Canon 90D would product fantastic shots, 4K video, and afford my old glass. On the other hand, if the only reason that I want to jump from my 70D to a new body is for 10 extra megapixels, lighter camera, and 4K video, then like you suggested and stick to the M50 body. To be honest, I wonder how well older photos taken with a 70D look using Topaz or some other photo enhancement program. Is A.I. about to correct equipment limitations? That sounds like a great new video that you could make. Again, thanks for the advice and I hall weigh all my options as a hobby.
@@jroar123 you can use your current glass om the r50, r10, r7. You would need an adapter
@@jroar123
Yes, your point of view is interesting. I have a short budget and I stayed in the 12 MPX era, I use Nikon D700, Olympus Pen and Pentax, Q, all with different sensor sizes but the same resolution. The Pentax Q's smaller sensor has its noise problems even at low ISO. But with Topaz the improvement is very good, and using the sliders moderately so that it is an extraterrestrial result. Even for certain types of shots where depth of field is required I can say that the Pentax Q plus Topaz Denoise standard outperforms the D700. Of course, if I had to take portraits I would choose the D700. But the differences in the final results, which exist, are sometimes very marginal.And it surprises me what a little camera like the Pentax Q and its system can still deliver. It's a shame there aren't more cameras like this currently being manufactured.
It’s the best choice for wildlife AF says Tony… who has never used an OM-1.
I would have preferred to see an OM-1 vs G9.2
I thought this was pre production. Performance is still not testable before final firmware.
Thank you for reviewing G9 Pro ll. So far, very few good reviews for G9 Pro ll in Japan.
Hmmm…. Toni, you’re pretty enthusiastic about this g9 II… Remember: m43 is dead! Or… is it? ;-)
😂
Too bad you missed on the new af objectives like animal eyes. But still like your comparison 😌. I also wonder the bird in the sky that misfocussed was on afc or AFS. I guess AFS is still dfd like the s5II and the afc is phase detect.
Haven't seen a video from you guys in ages, but damn I appreciate your presentation style. Has to be the most relaxed, yet professional on TH-cam.
I like you guys but three ads from your sponsor in a sub 20-minute video? It gets a bit annoying.
May I ask if there are any prominent features in GH6 that are missing from G9ii?
Long recording times and active cooling.
@@TonyAndChelsea Thanks, but I heard from other reviewers that there isnt a 30mins recording limit on the G9ii.
@@TonyAndChelseaTony I watched your video regarding the iPhone 15 Pro Max, would that mean if I crop in or digitally zoom into 120mm on an iPhone 15 Pro that I would get the same image Qaulity as the 15 Pro Max.
Putting on threaded filters:
put lens vertical and sit filter on lens. Then screw gently. Never have a problem & it's quick
Does the G9II work with the Olympus Pro lenses?
Yes. You won’t be able to get sync IS on the 300 f/4 etc though.
the Canon lenses are much larger and cost WAY more. The canon also has has the rolling shutter problems. How is the weather sealing on the canon? Panasonic is usually really good. Also how is the audio quality? Panasonic hiatorically has really good audio pre-amps and their prpfession XLR hotshoe accesorie. Several canon cameras have been shown to have noisy pre-amps and poor audio features. If anyone has insight to those categories, please comment. Thanks
Hi . Very nice video. Also, check your referral link on the g9. Does not seem to work. All others do
The R7 was surprisingly soft... it's a shame you can't test it with a pro-grade APS-C lens. You're asking that FF lens to resolve for the equivalent of an 85 megapixel FF sensor. I guess I'd expect some Canon RF L glass to support that, and maybe more, so maybe that's not it, but it was kind of surprising. I have found HHHR to be effective on Olympus, as long as nothing's moving much, so sure, that's also a factor.
No, the lens is resolving for FF R mount sensors, th APS-C camera only uses part of the image. You get exactly the same results cropping an image from, say, the R5 proportionately.
What a pity that alwys these types of comparations miss the night photography! Why dont you make a video to talk and review ONLY night fotography at total darkness for me to decide whats the best for the task. What I mean is, a group of cameras that will be good or great for the night. I watch your videos from Germany, they are just great! Thanks for the efforst and time you put on us. I wish you both a great day there! many greetings to you both, Alfredo.
Are these the same people that predicted that micro four thirds would die like 4 years ago? 😂
Can’t take them seriously ngl
The eyes were somewhat in shadow in the running shots owing to the baseball cap's peak - would be interesting to see the results in different lighting conditions for both cameras.
But, look at the sizes of the lens. Not much difference now in camera body sizes. Apsc and full frame lenses are HUGE. Tthe lens size is now what i go on. Compare the olympus 12-45mm to anything other than micro 43rds.
F22 for your Waterfall shot is just plain wrong - makes the camera resolution look like total crap!! I shoot Olympus 8-25mm on Pany G9 at F5.6 (FF equivalent to F11) for those types of shots. 1/15sec-1/30sec works just fine for a multiple shot stack. F22 just does not work!!!
Not only that, but he claims it’s the equivalent of f44! There is no diffraction difference between crop factors, f22 is f22 in terms of diffraction on any system.
18:49 R8 a slow shooting camera? 40fps in electronic shutter is a lot of frames
Yeah but we found the e-shutter it not that useful.
So... Can we revisit that "M43 is dead" video you guys made a few years ago?
Good job team!,thanks for sharing
Look art the glare coming off the book at around 16:40 in your unboxing video test. In the Panasonic shots the glare through the face on the book is far less... so this is not a fair test. The Canon shot had a lot more severe glare on the book cover and this is what made it more difficult for the Canon to focus. I'm a Micro 4/3 shooter, so I want the Panasonic to Winn in this and all other tests.
In the waterfall test you dismissed the Panasonic results because of medicare filter. That's also kind of chicken s___ Tony, as you could have repeated the test from a different angle, removing the filter so you couldn't blame it on the filter.
Tony, you resembled “The Six Million Dollar Man” in the video demo. Yep, you could’ve been a Lee Majors double. In all seriousness…I love your reviews
I think the price is too high. It retails higher than the S5ii. 1500usd would have been a more competitive price