Using that much grease on the axle splines will have you without brakes again in no time. As soon as the shoes and drum get hot it's going to be all over them. A light coat is all that is needed.
To much grease. Any grease left beyond the point where you need a lubricant, will attract dust and can cause that dust/sand to migrate onto the face of seals or bearings. Just a very thin layer will work just fine. Just saying.
great video, well though out...however I will add the shaft that controls the shoe movement will and can get stiff almost seizing up if not cleaned and lubricated, Ive ran into this on several machines. if it does not move freely, the control arm will have to be removed and the shaft knocked out, cleaned up and greased before the brakes are installed
I just dont understand why super atv or highlifter have not made a conversion for the 2014-2019 foremans and ranchers yet. There is a massive market for them but they are just dragging ass on it.
I love Honda. They are dead nuts reliable, mostly due to their simplicity. That being said, their drum brakes. Wow. What a hassle. I don't think I have ever purchased a used Honda ATV where the drum brakes worked even a little. If you ride in areas with a lot of mud/water, you need to either do a disc brake conversion or learn to ride without brakes and just using gearing. Working on a 2003 450 S that I just bought. Rear shows no signs of life. Up front, all 4 wheel cylinders were frozen solid. I have the front brakes functioning now (waiting on new shoes). On to the rear I guess. Thanks for the video!
im sitting here watching this , as im putting in new brake pads , and need to adjust handbrake , really well explained, and shown , thank you i will go and have a crack at it , may need to look at this again , cheers well done
@@justinlantz6887 to replace the seal, you will need to just pop it out using a large socket that fits around the edge. And grease and replace it in reverse order
It’s fools errand if you ride hard trails. I’ve sealed the drum housing with RTV and still within half a day riding the drum is pooched again. It’s too bad there isn’t a hydraulic disc brake conversion for around $300. The mechanical cable disc conversion is just slightly less useless than the drum, but a hydraulic kit could be the ticket - even if only operable by hand lever and you lose the foot brake pedal
If you service the boot correctly and do it right, the chances of this happening are much lower, and it is also important to take out the drain plug after each ride in water/mud to make sure there is nothing in there. Keeping the seals intact is also very important. Expect more videos on that and other things this summer.
I cannot for the life of me getting the axel hub nut off. I've hit it with wd40 and penetrating oil, even tried applying heat for a little bit. I currently have both back wheels off and have a crowbar bracing the other side so the shaft cannot turn. Rather sure the breaks are seized up as I cannot rotate the shaft by hand. Either that or the bearings have seized? I can't tell until I can get that hub nut off. Any suggestions?
It is possible the cover was damaged when it was removed. This would prevent it from sliding back on. It is also possible that the drum is not completely seated over the brake pads; make sure that putting the brake wires back on is the last thing you do. Check the brake lever to make sure it is not seized too. These wear out after a while and do need replaced.
They are still gonna go rite out, the only way to fix that is to actually drill large holes on the bottom of the drum cover so it doesn’t hold sand and water in the brakes
Using that much grease on the axle splines will have you without brakes again in no time. As soon as the shoes and drum get hot it's going to be all over them. A light coat is all that is needed.
I hope folks dont follow this repair... a little grease goes a long way
To much grease. Any grease left beyond the point where you need a lubricant, will attract dust and can cause that dust/sand to migrate onto the face of seals or bearings. Just a very thin layer will work just fine. Just saying.
great video, well though out...however I will add the shaft that controls the shoe movement will and can get stiff almost seizing up if not cleaned and lubricated, Ive ran into this on several machines. if it does not move freely, the control arm will have to be removed and the shaft knocked out, cleaned up and greased before the brakes are installed
"You've got 20 minutes to use an entire tub of grease...go!!"
"I have just the project for that! Rear brakes!!"
I just dont understand why super atv or highlifter have not made a conversion for the 2014-2019 foremans and ranchers yet. There is a massive market for them but they are just dragging ass on it.
I love Honda. They are dead nuts reliable, mostly due to their simplicity. That being said, their drum brakes. Wow. What a hassle. I don't think I have ever purchased a used Honda ATV where the drum brakes worked even a little. If you ride in areas with a lot of mud/water, you need to either do a disc brake conversion or learn to ride without brakes and just using gearing. Working on a 2003 450 S that I just bought. Rear shows no signs of life. Up front, all 4 wheel cylinders were frozen solid. I have the front brakes functioning now (waiting on new shoes). On to the rear I guess. Thanks for the video!
im sitting here watching this , as im putting in new brake pads , and need to adjust handbrake , really well explained, and shown , thank you i will go and have a crack at it , may need to look at this again , cheers well done
Great video!
good vid but.... you start off stating that your dust cover seal is shot and I was expecting you would show the install of a new seal.
That's what I'm trying to find someone replacing the seal
@@justinlantz6887 to replace the seal, you will need to just pop it out using a large socket that fits around the edge. And grease and replace it in reverse order
Guess you dont understand dry torque versus wet torque 😂
It’s fools errand if you ride hard trails. I’ve sealed the drum housing with RTV and still within half a day riding the drum is pooched again.
It’s too bad there isn’t a hydraulic disc brake conversion for around $300. The mechanical cable disc conversion is just slightly less useless than the drum, but a hydraulic kit could be the ticket - even if only operable by hand lever and you lose the foot brake pedal
Very, very smart young man. Nice tutorial
Stop wasting your time and money it will never stay good Honda drum brakes always fail and get packed with water and mud
If you service the boot correctly and do it right, the chances of this happening are much lower, and it is also important to take out the drain plug after each ride in water/mud to make sure there is nothing in there. Keeping the seals intact is also very important. Expect more videos on that and other things this summer.
@@RanchLife-dg1in wow I never abuse mine but mud and water is inevitable, need to pull that drain plug I guess once in a while. Thanks
@@RanchLife-dg1inhello where is this plug your on about
@@miked8227help me wa plug are you flreferring to
I cannot for the life of me getting the axel hub nut off. I've hit it with wd40 and penetrating oil, even tried applying heat for a little bit. I currently have both back wheels off and have a crowbar bracing the other side so the shaft cannot turn. Rather sure the breaks are seized up as I cannot rotate the shaft by hand. Either that or the bearings have seized? I can't tell until I can get that hub nut off. Any suggestions?
Holy grease, Batman
My drum brake cover will not slide back on the brakes were seized prior to new brakes I tried putting on. Please help
It is possible the cover was damaged when it was removed. This would prevent it from sliding back on. It is also possible that the drum is not completely seated over the brake pads; make sure that putting the brake wires back on is the last thing you do. Check the brake lever to make sure it is not seized too. These wear out after a while and do need replaced.
Very informativan clear, the best video yet, I really appreciate this!!!
Great video
With so much grease on the inside aren't you concerned about grease getting on the brake shoes?
Why do you go so fast
What did u use to clean it
They are still gonna go rite out, the only way to fix that is to actually drill large holes on the bottom of the drum cover so it doesn’t hold sand and water in the brakes
There is a 10mm drain plug to drain the boot of any contaminants.
nice good job boys thank you
Nice video
A hundred is a hundred…not 80…ur 20% under…😳
Good job. Informative. Bare footed... no less
blue plastics on a rancher is rare..
Valeu Fron brasil thanks 🙏
Thank you guys!!!!
When these go bad does it mean the parking brake no longer works?
Yes
Guy doesn't know how use a torque wrench.
I can't get the damned drum off, somethings seized good .....
I can’t get it on with the new brakes how’d you get it on
Good job!
Are they still working?
Yes they are.
that was one of the best vids I have seen on TH-cam. Damn fine job.
CERT
You shouldn’t be working on your own stuff
Why he is competent enough
You did a great job on the repair. Nice shop by the way!