Yeah couldn’t agree more! I looked at the Gladiator after optioned the way I wanted it was $74k, I would never never pay $74 for a Jeep! $50k IMO is more what it should be priced at. Ended buying a Q7 for that money, JEEPs are now going for luxury SUV prices
You could get in 2016 a brand new 4x4 patriot sport advertised for 17 000$ - - > 20k$ out the door including taxes and other fees. In 2020, you could get a brand new Dodge grand caravan SE advertised at 19 999 $CAD - - > 24k out the door counting taxes out the door. Both offered a 5 years, 0% financing.
Ya and the compass is a Mexican built vehicle with an Italian engine and a KOREAN transmission…now no hate to Mexican built things, but I don’t think quality is one of their strong elements considering you can pay someone $25 A DAY.
It's a going out of business model. How can any one afford that super duper over price vehicles. Hey I wouldn't even consider ever buying a Mercedes, Audi, BMW. I buy a Honda, Toyota, or even a Nissan!!!
I won’t go that far but they are certainly not worth what they are asking. Anyone who pays over $50k for a Wrangler of any kind needs psychiatric help.
@@Mark-bu2ib That’s what I thought too. ???? Isn’t the Wrangler one of their most popular? He did rag on the high prices; I remember when the Wrangler pickup came out and was astounded at the $54k sticker.
@@jrig92 The cars only one item out of hundred thousands that doubled and tripled in price. In 2015 our house was 900K and now, in 2024 the neighbors asking for similar theirs 1.9M
Sorry bud. A base price use to be 31000 and this was back in 2017 to 2018. Top of the line use to be 38k to 40k. That’s why it sucks to see what they done to the brand
@@grege1972nobody is buying because their 2020 socialist money ran out, high interest rates, and dealers adding mark ups. Plus all manufacturers increased the msrp on trucks
It's ALL brands. Visited two GM stealerships last week. I was hoping to find a Chevrolet Colorado or GMC Canyon that was under $40K. NOPE. They START at $45K and soar to an obscene $81K. How the hell can a "light pickup" cost $81K??? I snorted and walked off the lot. They can sit on those for all I care. In the last year, I have seen a grand total of two of these trucks on the roads. Nope, nobody is going to pay $50K for a stinking pickup. Heck, the back seat is stiff as wood and very uncomfortable.
They raised the prices by 60 plus percent for the last few years. Let choke on their inventory, most of us will buy directly from Amazon later this year.
WOW, just seeing how dirt laden those vehicles are, they are the Stellantis symbol of lot rot. The brands are doomed. The Stealership deserves to not have their name blurred out. Everyone should see who they are. Cheers.
I had a jeep grand Cherokee as a rental for 2 weeks. It was a hybrid and fully loaded. After driving it for 2 weeks anyone who pays more than 40k for it is getting ripped off.
i like how cutting price is the only answer and the only thing they wont try to fix it. ive got a dealer in my town who takes TWO dollars off their price every couple weeks. like the cars have been there since August dude, the tires are rotting at a higher rate than the discounts roll in.
Could be a way for them to know how long they had the car on the lot. I know a store that works like that so salemans know if they need to move the product or if they can stay hard on the price.
@adamsteele6148 That is totally wrong. Overpriced? Yes! Junk? No way it hell are they junk -- they are solid cars -- owned a Jeep GC (5 of them since like 1986) -- never had a big problem.
And to think I purchased my 2010 Jeep Patriot North Edition out the door for $24,000. I factory ordered it because I wanted it with a 5 speed manual and I still drive it today and it’s still going strong. I haven’t had car payments for over 10 years!!! I just don’t know how people can afford a new car at today’s prices. Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram deserve to go out of business!!!!
Some people are progressing and make good money to afford whatever sold around. Do you complain about other overpriced and nice to have things in the life? 14 years ago you've got Jeep's bottom line offer, why to complain about inability to get nowadays worthy vehicle?
The banks will just move money and debt around ... Maybe come up with a reverse repo flea flicker pitch back student body right program to clean things up, and transfer the losses to the public. It's Banking 101.
Okay, I'll admit it. I paid $56K out the door during peak Covid times - for the most expensive option at the time (no, not the V8). While it was TOO much, we love it. It does so many things - it's actually wonderful in town, great for driving on the beach, can really go off-road, gets 22-23 mpg average, and it's a convertible - even removed the doors a few times and it's a blast. Yes, not wonderful for cross-country driving but they're wildly popular where I live and for good reason. Yes, they are still too much money. Also, 3 years in and not a single issue. Not one. Sure, that's not a long-term trial but better than most.
I'm pissed too at the prices but saying you wouldn't pay $20,000 for a Wrangler is stupid. 20k would barely get you a side by side. And a top of the line Polaris will set you back $40,000.
Stellantis has raised the prices over 30% in four years… I refuse to buy one of their vehicles, after being a loyal customer for 25 years. I’ve already moved onto a different manufacture… they’re going the wrong direction on price and style
This attitude of Stellantis reminds me of the 505 wagon in 1989. Dealers and fans were screaming for a V6 and they said nope. The sedan had the V6 but for the wagon? We were told the 4 was good enough. It wasn't long before they withdrew from the US market. Nothing has changed with the European arrogance. All the many brands that make up Stellantis, none did well in the US. Citroen, Peugeot, Alfa, Fiat... all losers. But just because they ganged up they think this time will end differently?
Yep, those are all oddball, weird, dorky cars with the clientele to match. 😜😛😀... Don't misunderstand me, I actually owned 2 brand new SAABS, a 1995 9000 CDE, and a 1995 900 Turbo SE Convertible, and a new 1994 Jaguar XJS V12 Coupe. Better than the other brands you mentioned, but still not considered mainstream. 🐾🐶🐕
Prices for jeeps are going up and up. I just don’t see how they would do that if they would lose money. Maybe they know something we don’t, wish we had insider info on why they are doing this
You don't even know the half of it. Peugeot, the initiator of Stellantis was investigated by the European Union for price gouging on parts. There is method to this madness. Chrysler will get dropped in no time when they don't contribute enough and most likely yet again go bankrupt for what, the 4th time? And this time it might be the final nail in the coffin. As for their products being upmarket, I had to recover from a laughing fit, Tavares (Stellantis CEO) can keep dreaming that these clunkers will ever be higher than bottom bargain bin quality. Both Peugeot and Fiat are trouble brands according to European statistics, mashing them together doesn't improve anything.
You missed one misnomer on Stellantis' part. They keep investing all their R&D in the expensive vehicles and NOT the cheap ones. Instead they dress up older Compasses and try and sell them for $40,000+ instead of making them cheaper and more attractive.
What, are you trying to insinuate that putting a hard roof and three row seating into a Ram 1500 and calling it a Wagoneer and saying it's worth $120 Grand with a little 3L turbo 6 cylinder isn't innovative?
they used to share a platform with the Dodge Caliber. the compass and patriot are the cheap models. Now they're selling the Compass for the price of a grand cherokee
The Wrangler price has increased avg 48.6% from 2018-2023. A pathetic 10% off MSRP factory discount doesn't cut it. My 2017 Wrangler JKU was $33,617. To get the same options/configuration in a 2024 Wrangler JLU would cost me $59,300. lol. Big hard PASS.
Been saying this for the past 2 years in other channels. Here is what I’m gonna say “ the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire………we don’t need no water, let the mother Effer BURN!!”. MSRP needs to drop roughly $5-$10k from stellantis. Dealer incentives are stupid.
that is still not even close to being reasonable....prices need o drop 20-30k MSRP! But that will never happen because ppl have stupid....and demand SOOO MUCH FANCY CRAP in modern vehicles now days that drives up the price to the state were currently in....you think its cheap to slam that 10" dual touchscreen in the new rams? or all that stupid fancy lexury crap that no one really needs then complain why there vehicles cost 100k
Msrp on jeep has gone up by over 50% since 2019, seems they should cut prices by half to me. And yes I'm aware they'll never do that but it does highlight how much these little 5 to 10% off they're pushing now is a joke. They want Lexus prices for fix it again Tony quality and no ones biting.
Here in Australia,Jeep sales have been declining sharply since they screwed their customers with overpriced parts over the counter without lubricants for years.
Spot on analysis. Jeep/Dodge went upmarket in pricing when their quality remained mediocre and the alternatives were better priced, higher quality and/or more luxurious. Some poor strategic planning going on. And now they have the UAW BS contract around their necks. They could stop production for a year to sell off dealer inventory and then move production to Mexico for less costs and a more commited work force.
None of these Jeeps were inspected before they left the factory. If you walk and look at each Jeep you will find flaws that never should have left the factory. They called me at night 9pm. The next morning I was furious. The leather dashboard was all bunched up where the headsup display frame fits over the leather. It could not be fixed a new dashboard had to be installed. They suck!! screws all over the floor and under the seats? Luckly I have no squeaks or issues. The entire industry needs to fail.
Quality control doesn't really exist at any car factories. The only standard out the door is that it runs. The rest is warranty work at the dealer. Actual company spokesperson I saw on TV some years ago.
We drove grand cherokees for over 20 years. When we could no longer get a V8 grand for under 60 thousand, we walked away. We now have a sedan and are happy with our choice. I will not pay $60 grand for a vehicle. I want to retire someday. The vehicle industry quit selling us on total cost years ago and started selling us on payments. "What payment are you wanting?" They will finance you for a decade if you are willing. The cost of lost buying power and earning compound interest for yourself will keep you broke forever.
What ever happened to freedom of choice? Incase you didn’t know In The US we have an open market the folks will dictate if these businesses will survive or fail… so be thankful we still live in a place that if you don’t like it you don’t have to buy it…
I just looked at Jeep Wrangler prices at my local CDJR dealer and couldn't believe what they are asking for them. The most expensive was a Rubicon 392 with a MSRP of $100,025, and they had a massive discount of $500 with another $1000 Jeep cash back. I heard people are lined up around the block for a chance to buy it.
Biggest mistake stellantis has done is chopping the hemi engine and even more the hellcats from the line up which leaves them with nothing but sorry jeeps and humdrum vehicles no one wants
"We thought after years of shafting the customers they would continue to bend over, who could have seen that they would get fed up of our gouging scams?"
The CHEROKEE is discontinued. My local dealership, Crown Chrysler/Jeep/RAM/Dodge has no Cherokee's, 300s, Hornets, and Pacifica's. They are a big dealership, that has been around for fifty years in Ventura, California. My recently purchased 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit (Hemi) is flawless, with no complaints about quality.
@jamesmyers9285 That is also my experience EXACTLY! All the clowns on this string saying Jeeps are junk are either ignorant or just haters. Jeeps ARE overpriced now but they are solid cars - owned 6 Jeep GCs over the last 38 years none of them let me down.
100k and 75k for a jeep is absolutely insane. Someone tell the Italians Jeeps were supposed to be cheap transportation, that was easy to repair, and transportation for the Joe's. How the hell do they get off trying to treat Jeep as a luxury brand lol.
@@markholubetz I have 2000 Jeep XJ Cherokee, it now has almost 400K org, engine, trans, ect. Knew the day would come I would have to retire it so a few years back I bought another 2000 XJ, rust free for next to nothing and have slowly been bringing that up to almost like new condition, I love it as I can work on it and I slowly acquired lots of parts as well. I will not have new anything as 1. I can't afford it and 2. I can't fix them in my little micro garage shop, if your working on the front you can't get behind it with the door closed, Vis a vis , so a longer vehicle is out anyway. Love the old, cheap, solid Axel XJs with the tractor 6 cyl.I also cannot afford insanely expensive scanners and subscriptions to diag. new cars full of needless computers and touchscreens.
Guys remember these prices are in Canadian dollars. To get the US prices chop it by 20%. However, he is right. I think we will see these vehicles blown out on really cheap leases.
Thanks for clarifying and yes there are some money on the table, some for the buyers, and some for the dealers. If they are pushing a product, know there is sometimes something behind it.
The four-door Wrangler with the extended chassis defeats the purpose of a Jeep Wrangler in the first place. The long wheel-base makes it useless for serious off-roading.
@@AStanton1966While what you say may be true, the longer wheel base still makes it useless for serious off-roading, which is what the Wrangler was originally all about.
You should be hospitalized if you buy an $86,000 Jeep
Converted to $US that’s almost $63,500. Given the reliability reports I wouldn’t go above $35,000 US for most Jeep products.
You spelled euthanized wrong.
Yeah couldn’t agree more! I looked at the Gladiator after optioned the way I wanted it was $74k, I would never never pay $74 for a Jeep! $50k IMO is more what it should be priced at. Ended buying a Q7 for that money, JEEPs are now going for luxury SUV prices
😂😂😂😂
@@jimroland7542 hahahahaha. I like this one!
Serves them right for how they treated the customers after the pandemic
Exactly
Before during and after the plandemic...these companies and the govt. Are a bunch of jackwagons.
What do you mean? How did they treat the customer?
@@kinpin66are you living under a rock? Wake up!
@@kinpin66 Artificial markups well beyond MSRP. They take a vehicle worth $30K and try to sell it for $60K because they're greedy.
How about instead of $1000 back, each Jeep comes with a free bankruptcy lawyer?
Cut 75% off of the prices.
I’d take a wrangler unlimited for 50% off and 48 months 0% financing 😃👍🏻
75 % I have to laugh , but the sad thing is it's the truth!
Stellantis is going down...crap quality and insane pricing...what could go wrong?
Agreed
I'd buy two!
Nearly 50 Grand for a dorky little crossover "Jeep" compass? HAH! What a joke...
You could get in 2016 a brand new 4x4 patriot sport advertised for 17 000$ - - > 20k$ out the door including taxes and other fees. In 2020, you could get a brand new Dodge grand caravan SE advertised at 19 999 $CAD - - > 24k out the door counting taxes out the door. Both offered a 5 years, 0% financing.
Ya and the compass is a Mexican built vehicle with an Italian engine and a KOREAN transmission…now no hate to Mexican built things, but I don’t think quality is one of their strong elements considering you can pay someone $25 A DAY.
Where are you finding them for $50k? They're SIXTY grand where I live.
I'll say it again, Stellantis is going to learn the hard way that building way overpriced garbage isn't a winning business model.
Yeah F them.
Hope they go out of business
It's a going out of business model. How can any one afford that super duper over price vehicles. Hey I wouldn't even consider ever buying a Mercedes, Audi, BMW. I buy a Honda, Toyota, or even a Nissan!!!
Blame the union for the over priced work force.
The karma fairy visited them yesterday. They had hundreds of layoffs already.
No Jeep product should be more than 35k .
For sure
I won’t go that far but they are certainly not worth what they are asking. Anyone who pays over $50k for a Wrangler of any kind needs psychiatric help.
Stellantis thinks these are Mercedes-Benz. Someone forgot to tell them they are just Jeeps.
They probably still believe they are Daimler/Chrysler 😂
No they don’t, they’re just hoping that you don’t realize that Stellantis is the long way to spell FIAT!
@@markvincent5992you wrong hahaha fiat was sold as a stand alone company.
Did he just say the wrangler isn’t popular ?
@@Mark-bu2ib That’s what I thought too. ???? Isn’t the Wrangler one of their most popular? He did rag on the high prices; I remember when the Wrangler pickup came out and was astounded at the $54k sticker.
No Jeeps were bought in the making of this video! 😂
Indeed
That's crazy. They are not worth $60k
They are not worth $30k
Every day a Jeep goes unsold, an angel earns their wings.
Yup nobody dies in those unsafe shit boxes
Soon heaven runs out of airspace 😂
😆😆😆
😂 Thanks, Clarence! Good one!
Looked a Wrangler Sport the other day, was $60,000 CDN, I laughed, got in my car, and left.
Bingo. Same
Same here. Wanted to replace 3-yrs old Maybach for brand new Roys. Went to their closed event, took a look at their overpriced offerings and left.
60k for a sport?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They are intentionally trying to go out of business
It’s insane. In 2015 Wrangler Sport started at $19,990 CAD.
@@jrig92 The cars only one item out of hundred thousands that doubled and tripled in price. In 2015 our house was 900K and now, in 2024 the neighbors asking for similar theirs 1.9M
Base gran Cherokee used to cost 38000 usd . Now it costs 75000 usd
Sorry bud. A base price use to be 31000 and this was back in 2017 to 2018. Top of the line use to be 38k to 40k. That’s why it sucks to see what they done to the brand
I remember buying a well equipped Rubicon for $34k back in 2017
I agree with you on the cost of living, Stellantis needs a wake up call.
Their workers had no problem going on strike for more money. Now look. No ones buying anything
It's got very little to do with worker pay but a lot with corporate greed.
@@grege1972lol not everyone in every company went on strike so why has this been an issue with every make?
@@grege1972nobody is buying because their 2020 socialist money ran out, high interest rates, and dealers adding mark ups.
Plus all manufacturers increased the msrp on trucks
@@diegoharo7943 It seems that the biggest problem is with Stellantis and CDJR, as well as the quality of their products.
For a jeep?! They are so out of touch with reality.
It's ALL brands. Visited two GM stealerships last week. I was hoping to find a Chevrolet Colorado or GMC Canyon that was under $40K. NOPE. They START at $45K and soar to an obscene $81K. How the hell can a "light pickup" cost $81K??? I snorted and walked off the lot. They can sit on those for all I care. In the last year, I have seen a grand total of two of these trucks on the roads. Nope, nobody is going to pay $50K for a stinking pickup. Heck, the back seat is stiff as wood and very uncomfortable.
They raised the prices by 60 plus percent for the last few years. Let choke on their inventory, most of us will buy directly from Amazon later this year.
WOW, just seeing how dirt laden those vehicles are, they are the Stellantis symbol of lot rot. The brands are doomed. The Stealership deserves to not have their name blurred out. Everyone should see who they are. Cheers.
I noticed the dirt too. Seems the dealership just gave up. Not even trying to sell vehicles.
I had a jeep grand Cherokee as a rental for 2 weeks. It was a hybrid and fully loaded. After driving it for 2 weeks anyone who pays more than 40k for it is getting ripped off.
30% over priced!
Let them rot on the lot.
Exactly a serious chop of the prices is needed
30%! They are up 50% in three years and they were over priced three years ago.
i like how cutting price is the only answer and the only thing they wont try to fix it. ive got a dealer in my town who takes TWO dollars off their price every couple weeks. like the cars have been there since August dude, the tires are rotting at a higher rate than the discounts roll in.
Could be a way for them to know how long they had the car on the lot. I know a store that works like that so salemans know if they need to move the product or if they can stay hard on the price.
How can Dodge, and Jeep stay in business? I just don't know
Obtain military 🪖 contracts
They'll float for 3 to 5 years
They market their products with emotion and target uneducated consumers.
@@atombomb6719You hit that nail on the head, shit floats!
Probably praying for ANOTHER government bailout. Did they ever pay back the other ones?
Government subsidies
Junk and everyone knows it
Yes improve the quality and price ad the vehicle will sell itself
@adamsteele6148 That is totally wrong. Overpriced? Yes! Junk? No way it hell are they junk -- they are solid cars -- owned a Jeep GC (5 of them since like 1986) -- never had a big problem.
@@Mandolin1944junk
Lol.@@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 the 1500 ram hemi ( has a good part time job) it's a glorified minivan.
I agree. From my humble personal perspective, prices are approx. 30% too high currently.
I will never pay this much for a vehicle like this. Count me out.
And to think I purchased my 2010 Jeep Patriot North Edition out the door for $24,000. I factory ordered it because I wanted it with a 5 speed manual and I still drive it today and it’s still going strong. I haven’t had car payments for over 10 years!!! I just don’t know how people can afford a new car at today’s prices. Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram deserve to go out of business!!!!
Some people are progressing and make good money to afford whatever sold around. Do you complain about other overpriced and nice to have things in the life? 14 years ago you've got Jeep's bottom line offer, why to complain about inability to get nowadays worthy vehicle?
Those Jeep prices should be reduced at least 50%.
I’d take a wrangler unlimited for 50% off and 48 months 0% financing 😃👍🏻
Totally right
@@wyatt92563 Please leave your contact details. Closest dealership will contact you promptly.
@@wyatt92563and a box of tampons to huh?
@@fredwilliams7893 WTF?
Could you imagine the hit All these corrupt banks are fixed to take 😂😂
You mean the hit the taxpayer is going to take when government gives them a few more Trillion.
Only problem is they will be bailed out by the taxpayers!
The banks don’t make the vehicle prices, and yes, the banks will get hurt by this, in losses, no doubt.
The banks will just move money and debt around ... Maybe come up with a reverse repo flea flicker pitch back student body right program to clean things up, and transfer the losses to the public. It's Banking 101.
Haha the buck will be passed to the consumer in some way.
That's how they balance the books on their warranty cost ,, Just quadruple of the price of the vehicle 😂
Which is just another way of saying that they're designed poorly to begin with.
I bought a house 7 years ago for 74k, no way am i paying that for a depreciating asset
i wouldn't pay 20k for a new wrangler
I remember when my gf at the time bought a new one for $18,000 in 98. Sharping looking 5 speed.
@woodendoors1075 That is your call but then you will never drive one either.
Okay, I'll admit it. I paid $56K out the door during peak Covid times - for the most expensive option at the time (no, not the V8). While it was TOO much, we love it. It does so many things - it's actually wonderful in town, great for driving on the beach, can really go off-road, gets 22-23 mpg average, and it's a convertible - even removed the doors a few times and it's a blast. Yes, not wonderful for cross-country driving but they're wildly popular where I live and for good reason. Yes, they are still too much money. Also, 3 years in and not a single issue. Not one. Sure, that's not a long-term trial but better than most.
I'm pissed too at the prices but saying you wouldn't pay $20,000 for a Wrangler is stupid. 20k would barely get you a side by side. And a top of the line Polaris will set you back $40,000.
It’s your problem. Wrangler is one of the best off-road vehicle. Overpriced? Yes, but it happens with all cars nowadays
Imagine the floor plan costs that the dealer is carrying.
It seems they want the dealers to fold.
Someone's been watching Car Edge
Stellantis has raised the prices over 30% in four years… I refuse to buy one of their vehicles, after being a loyal customer for 25 years. I’ve already moved onto a different manufacture… they’re going the wrong direction on price and style
Exactly
$35k...their transmissions/electrical will be nothing but problems.
Educate yourself before you open your mouth the ZF 8HP transmission it's almost Bulletproof.
This attitude of Stellantis reminds me of the 505 wagon in 1989. Dealers and fans were screaming for a V6 and they said nope. The sedan had the V6 but for the wagon? We were told the 4 was good enough. It wasn't long before they withdrew from the US market. Nothing has changed with the European arrogance. All the many brands that make up Stellantis, none did well in the US. Citroen, Peugeot, Alfa, Fiat... all losers. But just because they ganged up they think this time will end differently?
Yep, those are all oddball, weird, dorky cars with the clientele to match. 😜😛😀... Don't misunderstand me, I actually owned 2 brand new SAABS, a 1995 9000 CDE, and a 1995 900 Turbo SE Convertible, and a new 1994 Jaguar XJS V12 Coupe. Better than the other brands you mentioned, but still not considered mainstream. 🐾🐶🐕
47k for a compass😂😂😂😂😂😂 u have to know nothing about cars to be buying that for 47k plus taxes and fees
Right, now you know who Toyota is killing it. You can buy that 47k Compass or a $35k RAV4 Hybrid.
Prices for jeeps are going up and up. I just don’t see how they would do that if they would lose money. Maybe they know something we don’t, wish we had insider info on why they are doing this
You read my mind!!! Hahaha that is Freaking Insane! That's a 24-28k car all day
@@TheDanny23rivera And what's more, the Toyota will hold it's value massively better.
@@TheDanny23rivera35k for a RAV, that's ridiculous as well.
Get well soon Stellantis.......LMFAO
Haha, greed has been the primary driver
You don't even know the half of it. Peugeot, the initiator of Stellantis was investigated by the European Union for price gouging on parts. There is method to this madness. Chrysler will get dropped in no time when they don't contribute enough and most likely yet again go bankrupt for what, the 4th time? And this time it might be the final nail in the coffin. As for their products being upmarket, I had to recover from a laughing fit, Tavares (Stellantis CEO) can keep dreaming that these clunkers will ever be higher than bottom bargain bin quality. Both Peugeot and Fiat are trouble brands according to European statistics, mashing them together doesn't improve anything.
I mean what do they expect there prices went up 34% in 2 years
You missed one misnomer on Stellantis' part. They keep investing all their R&D in the expensive vehicles and NOT the cheap ones. Instead they dress up older Compasses and try and sell them for $40,000+ instead of making them cheaper and more attractive.
What, are you trying to insinuate that putting a hard roof and three row seating into a Ram 1500 and calling it a Wagoneer and saying it's worth $120 Grand with a little 3L turbo 6 cylinder isn't innovative?
they used to share a platform with the Dodge Caliber. the compass and patriot are the cheap models. Now they're selling the Compass for the price of a grand cherokee
The Wrangler price has increased avg 48.6% from 2018-2023. A pathetic 10% off MSRP factory discount doesn't cut it. My 2017 Wrangler JKU was $33,617. To get the same options/configuration in a 2024 Wrangler JLU would cost me $59,300. lol. Big hard PASS.
Been saying this for the past 2 years in other channels. Here is what I’m gonna say “ the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire………we don’t need no water, let the mother Effer BURN!!”. MSRP needs to drop roughly $5-$10k from stellantis. Dealer incentives are stupid.
that is still not even close to being reasonable....prices need o drop 20-30k MSRP! But that will never happen because ppl have stupid....and demand SOOO MUCH FANCY CRAP in modern vehicles now days that drives up the price to the state were currently in....you think its cheap to slam that 10" dual touchscreen in the new rams? or all that stupid fancy lexury crap that no one really needs then complain why there vehicles cost 100k
Msrp on jeep has gone up by over 50% since 2019, seems they should cut prices by half to me. And yes I'm aware they'll never do that but it does highlight how much these little 5 to 10% off they're pushing now is a joke. They want Lexus prices for fix it again Tony quality and no ones biting.
I agree, this 2 or 3 k off is an insult
I heard that there are small trucks that are being sold for $20000 and $45000 here. Screw these folks.
Wait until you get the insurance bill and the annual registration.
Here in Australia,Jeep sales have been declining sharply since they screwed their customers with overpriced parts over the counter without lubricants for years.
Wait! Did you say $139K??
You gotta be kidding!
Haaaaaaaaaiiiiiilllllll NO!
Yes it’s no lie, but it is CAN funds
About $103,000 US. Still completely crazy!
139k for a Wagoneer. And I thought the land cruiser was bad...
The new 2024 LandCruiser base price is $57,000. I think they will undersell everyone and finally bring these prices down.
I enjoy both of your shows. Keep them coming.👌
Spot on analysis. Jeep/Dodge went upmarket in pricing when their quality remained mediocre and the alternatives were better priced, higher quality and/or more luxurious. Some poor strategic planning going on. And now they have the UAW BS contract around their necks. They could stop production for a year to sell off dealer inventory and then move production to Mexico for less costs and a more commited work force.
All the manufacturers are out to lunch $$$
I didn’t know at first these prices were Canadian but the US prices are still insane.
Silly prices indeed
They had it right when a Jeep SRT was $50K
None of these Jeeps were inspected before they left the factory. If you walk and look at each Jeep you will find flaws that never should have left the factory. They called me at night 9pm. The next morning I was furious. The leather dashboard was all bunched up where the headsup display frame fits over the leather. It could not be fixed a new dashboard had to be installed. They suck!! screws all over the floor and under the seats? Luckly I have no squeaks or issues. The entire industry needs to fail.
Wow that’s horrendous. They really need to pay more attention to
The entire industry needs to fail!
Quality control doesn't really exist at any car factories. The only standard out the door is that it runs. The rest is warranty work at the dealer. Actual company spokesperson I saw on TV some years ago.
Wow you are a smart one
The longer they sit the more they rust away.
Out of touch wealthy CEOs.
Tim Kuniskis is Out Of Touch and Out Of His Mind
ALL PRICED OUT OF CONTROL END OF DAYS
You forgot to say $86K Plus Sales Tax Registration and License Fee
They are not going to discount/rebate them 25%. No way. They will send them to auction before they do that.
I find it telling you have to wipe the dust off the windows to see the sticker price.
If you're paying attention you know now is not the time to be jumping into a new set on monthly payments.
My car payment would be more than my rent, I don't think so.
I had a 1997 Wrangler Sahara brand new. Paid $26,000 for it. This is getting ridiculous.
Thanks for sharing and I also had a TJ wrangler a bunch of years ago and bought it 2 years old with 30k and got it for 12 k in the day
Yep well said! You nailed it!
Nope. I still have to buy milk today.
sounds good
They don’t sell what customers actually want. A two door Gladiator priced around $30k would sell like crazy.
I want a diesel with a 6spd
We drove grand cherokees for over 20 years. When we could no longer get a V8 grand for under 60 thousand, we walked away. We now have a sedan and are happy with our choice. I will not pay $60 grand for a vehicle. I want to retire someday. The vehicle industry quit selling us on total cost years ago and started selling us on payments. "What payment are you wanting?" They will finance you for a decade if you are willing. The cost of lost buying power and earning compound interest for yourself will keep you broke forever.
I may have missed it, but at which section was the portion where the CEO responds?
The price adjustments
@@markholubetzThat's misleading. Somewhat clickbaitish, no? Like the OP, I thought the CEO responded to this video.
Add a ten year payment plan and see if people will hop on lol. Consumers are suckers. Good channel you have. I enjoy your perspective.
Canadian dollars 😂😂😂you should have started with that.
Thanks
They can keep every one of them.
You're so spot on! These vehicle prices are ridiculous.
What ever happened to freedom of choice? Incase you didn’t know In The US we have an open market the folks will dictate if these businesses will survive or fail… so be thankful we still live in a place that if you don’t like it you don’t have to buy it…
These are overpriced junks. No wonder nobody wants to buy them.
Yep, pure garbage.
@riph5611 They are over priceed but they are definitely NOT "junk" that is ignorant.
@@Mandolin1944What an ignorant statement
You obviously don’t know the defect rates of Stellantis vehicles @@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 oh but they are
Unbelievable
I thought that my Jeep Wrangler was expensive at $29,000. These prices are REDICULOUS for jeeps.
Its downright ridiculous
You should do a walk thru at a subaru and mazda dealer to compare.
There is a sucker born every minute.this can go on indefinitely
I just looked at Jeep Wrangler prices at my local CDJR dealer and couldn't believe what they are asking for them. The most expensive was a Rubicon 392 with a MSRP of $100,025, and they had a massive discount of $500 with another $1000 Jeep cash back. I heard people are lined up around the block for a chance to buy it.
Haha that’s what’s causing this price crisis
The floor plan interest expense for those dealers has to be astronomical
Literally insane prices
I agree
47k for a jeep compass???
Wtf is going on with these car prices.
Love your videos Sir
Thanks very much
As my Dad would say, "It's the screwing they get for the screwing they gave" Chuck
haha
Biggest mistake stellantis has done is chopping the hemi engine and even more the hellcats from the line up which leaves them with nothing but sorry jeeps and humdrum vehicles no one wants
"We thought after years of shafting the customers they would continue to bend over, who could have seen that they would get fed up of our gouging scams?"
That Lot Looks Like My 2 Local Jeep Dealer! Simply Loaded Up With Inventory! Thanks For Your Report! Much Truth To This!
Stellantis Group isn't the only one that needs to slash prices. They've all taken advantage of the consumer and made everything far too expensive.
Yes they are all in this together. All greasy and they keep each other in check
The repo lot is backed up right now ,, That's why they can't flush the turds they have in stock 😂
Haha ...I just bought a new jeep for 27, 333
Bonkers pricing! Thanks for the great information. My 2024 TRD Pro 4 runner is a bargain compared to these!
Good choice! Toyota will outlast these 10 fold too
It will also last 25+ worry free years with just regular maintenance.
They should offer 100,000 mile warranty to back their product !
thanks
Keep ignoring the Chrysler brand and the entire system will fail.
The CHEROKEE is discontinued. My local dealership, Crown Chrysler/Jeep/RAM/Dodge has no Cherokee's, 300s, Hornets, and Pacifica's. They are a big dealership, that has been around for fifty years in Ventura, California. My recently purchased 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit (Hemi) is flawless, with no complaints about quality.
Exactly they are phasing some vehicles out and the Cherokee does not have the margins that you find on the grand cherokees
@jamesmyers9285 That is also my experience EXACTLY! All the clowns on this string saying Jeeps are junk are either ignorant or just haters. Jeeps ARE overpriced now but they are solid cars - owned 6 Jeep GCs over the last 38 years none of them let me down.
@@Mandolin1944The GC has only been around since 1993.
@@WoodgemanX Ssc
Typo on my part. I have owned/leased six Grand Cherokee's since 2004. @@WoodgemanX
Grand Cherokee should be around 40K.
100k and 75k for a jeep is absolutely insane. Someone tell the Italians Jeeps were supposed to be cheap transportation, that was easy to repair, and transportation for the Joe's. How the hell do they get off trying to treat Jeep as a luxury brand lol.
It’s out to lunch, really
@@markholubetz I have 2000 Jeep XJ Cherokee, it now has almost 400K org, engine, trans, ect. Knew the day would come I would have to retire it so a few years back I bought another 2000 XJ, rust free for next to nothing and have slowly been bringing that up to almost like new condition, I love it as I can work on it and I slowly acquired lots of parts as well. I will not have new anything as 1. I can't afford it and 2. I can't fix them in my little micro garage shop, if your working on the front you can't get behind it with the door closed, Vis a vis , so a longer vehicle is out anyway. Love the old, cheap, solid Axel XJs with the tractor 6 cyl.I also cannot afford insanely expensive scanners and subscriptions to diag. new cars full of needless computers and touchscreens.
Very good video. And I agree, the number one issue is the price.
Thank you
Well you flood the market with over priced piles of rolling garbage this is what happens. The build quality is total trash.
Hope Stellantis goes out of business for selling overpriced endless money pits rolling piles of junk. 😊
Guys remember these prices are in Canadian dollars. To get the US prices chop it by 20%. However, he is right. I think we will see these vehicles blown out on really cheap leases.
Thanks for clarifying and yes there are some money on the table, some for the buyers, and some for the dealers. If they are pushing a product, know there is sometimes something behind it.
All of those vehicles should be at least $15k less
The four-door Wrangler with the extended chassis defeats the purpose of a Jeep Wrangler in the first place. The long wheel-base makes it useless for serious off-roading.
The longer wheel base helps keep it in a straighter line while going down the road. Plus you have added storage for passengers and BS.
@@AStanton1966While what you say may be true, the longer wheel base still makes it useless for serious off-roading, which is what the Wrangler was originally all about.
@@andrewbird57 I understand, it's about the ground clearance. Except, most Jeeps are mall crawlers.