Are the BOM and files for the Pheonix publicly available? I need high speed large format IDEX printing and this seems like the perfect option to build!
The Voron team tends to like to let their ideas cook a bit before public release. Probably, the printer is finished enough to show off for a day or two at a show, (where there is always going to be someone right there who can fix it) but has issues that make it not up to standard for long-term use or reliability. Vorons are supposed to be reliable workhorses, not fiddly half-finished printers, and that last little bit of engineering and polish take way longer than you'd think they would.
I am curious if this machine will be scalable, I love the design, the idea and what it can do but 600mm is far too big for me...maybe a 350/400mm version would be PERFECT?
Just nitpicky feedback: saying things like “alright” and “yeah” while someone’s talking makes complete sense in real life as they generally indicate you’re listening and processing what someone’s saying. In a video, though, it can sometimes feel like you’re trying to rush the person and get them to stop talking. I’m sure that’s not what you intended whatsoever, but it can sound a little awkward when you’re not actively part of the conversation. Great video nonetheless and you’ve absolutely earned a sub!
Actually not being able to move the assembled printer from one room to another is quite a problem. Imho for a printer this size, you need a different aproach, using two extrusions on each side, making all sides, top and bottom individual frames. So the bottom (including the bed) as one unit, the left and right (including the ballscrews with motors), the back (including the PSUs and electronics) are very stiff units by themself, even if not connect to each other. Top and front of course are relativly light panels. The xy-gantry of course have to be it's own unit to be put onto the cariages on the ball screws as the last step. All individual frames being connected by Thumbscrews. So the printer being dissassembled into 7 parts just removing some thumbscrews and disconnecting some connectors in less than an hour or so, reassembled in less than two hours even in a space it just fits into. So after days or weeks of inital assembly in your workshop, you still can move the printer in an acceptable amount of time, with parts of an acceptable weight between 10 to 20 kg each.
With the price of a garbage 2.4 I can’t imagine what they are going to ask for this probably around $6,000 and with Voron super slow print speeds it will only take a min of weeks for a single print to finish. Fun the maker said this machine is for industrial needs yet meets not a single industrial standard. Rat rig Idex is a much better machine in literally every aspect for a similar price except its design well lol. It should tell you something when it took 9 years to make and still isn’t ready yet vzbot was made in just 2 years yet 10 times better design decisions 😅
We arent selling anything. its up to you if you build one or not. This thing is also far away from a v2.4 in terms of parts. Which industrial standards are you talking about exactly? id like to know more so we can improve if an improvement is needed.
Are the BOM and files for the Pheonix publicly available? I need high speed large format IDEX printing and this seems like the perfect option to build!
Yeah, was looking for the same, couldn't find a site or a github page.
The Voron team tends to like to let their ideas cook a bit before public release. Probably, the printer is finished enough to show off for a day or two at a show, (where there is always going to be someone right there who can fix it) but has issues that make it not up to standard for long-term use or reliability. Vorons are supposed to be reliable workhorses, not fiddly half-finished printers, and that last little bit of engineering and polish take way longer than you'd think they would.
I assume the stealthburner is standard size? Sure shows off the scale of the printer. They look tiny
yes. standard stealthburners with revo HF
When will voron 24 be released?
Is the design released?
I am curious if this machine will be scalable, I love the design, the idea and what it can do but 600mm is far too big for me...maybe a 350/400mm version would be PERFECT?
It is, but you will have to self source a lot of it (rails, panels, extrusion, etc...)
Yes but then you would just have a Voron 2.4
I honestly didn't know the Voron 2.4 was idex! I@@landerhoolsteens
A 350 version of this is the voron 2.4
I didnt know the 2.4 was IDEX nor did i realise it used ball screws, I dont suppose you have a link ?@@-Xaverius
Did anyone catch where this machine was built and coming from? ;) Awesome video and awesome machine!
Was built in US in Adam’s living room and shipped to UK 😂
Based on the size and level of proud, (and how many times it was mentioned) can i assume it is from… US? 😂
No, can you repeat.
Just nitpicky feedback: saying things like “alright” and “yeah” while someone’s talking makes complete sense in real life as they generally indicate you’re listening and processing what someone’s saying. In a video, though, it can sometimes feel like you’re trying to rush the person and get them to stop talking. I’m sure that’s not what you intended whatsoever, but it can sound a little awkward when you’re not actively part of the conversation. Great video nonetheless and you’ve absolutely earned a sub!
I get that, it’s my ADHD squirrel running wild due to excitement hehe
@@3DMakerNoob Such a thoroughly enjoyable neurodivergent nerd-out.
@@3DMakerNoobI think it's fine maybe apply like half the use of fillers !
I can't wait to find someone who has one of these. I'm going to ask them to print me some filtermesh side panels for Voron 2.4 😅
1:53 that "yes" was hard jajajajajaja
Actually not being able to move the assembled printer from one room to another is quite a problem. Imho for a printer this size, you need a different aproach, using two extrusions on each side, making all sides, top and bottom individual frames. So the bottom (including the bed) as one unit, the left and right (including the ballscrews with motors), the back (including the PSUs and electronics) are very stiff units by themself, even if not connect to each other. Top and front of course are relativly light panels. The xy-gantry of course have to be it's own unit to be put onto the cariages on the ball screws as the last step.
All individual frames being connected by Thumbscrews. So the printer being dissassembled into 7 parts just removing some thumbscrews and disconnecting some connectors in less than an hour or so, reassembled in less than two hours even in a space it just fits into.
So after days or weeks of inital assembly in your workshop, you still can move the printer in an acceptable amount of time, with parts of an acceptable weight between 10 to 20 kg each.
If you have a printer like this, you probably have a workshop for stiff like this and you don't need to move it
Yuge!
It looks like truck. No. Tractor.
Built in the US?... oh... that is disappointing, I was hoping for quality
Buddy, you build your own Voron.
I haven't seen your videos for a few years... did you gain weight?
get bent
With the price of a garbage 2.4 I can’t imagine what they are going to ask for this probably around $6,000 and with Voron super slow print speeds it will only take a min of weeks for a single print to finish. Fun the maker said this machine is for industrial needs yet meets not a single industrial standard. Rat rig Idex is a much better machine in literally every aspect for a similar price except its design well lol. It should tell you something when it took 9 years to make and still isn’t ready yet vzbot was made in just 2 years yet 10 times better design decisions 😅
We arent selling anything. its up to you if you build one or not. This thing is also far away from a v2.4 in terms of parts.
Which industrial standards are you talking about exactly? id like to know more so we can improve if an improvement is needed.
I'm sensing you may be a hateful person.