Why even mention Voron when its not? Close to Voron build maybe but not one. If you want to scale up go Ratrig. Nice build with over 2m belts how fast can you go??? Click bait sorry
Guess an Ender 3 won't be an Ender 3 when modded then? Why mention Ratrig when it wouldn't be a Ratrig either :-P (Not comparing Enders to Voron - But a Voron as a base still makes it a Voron :-) )
This is such a brillient idea! Can’t wait to see the build. It’s people like you that advance the 3D printing industry. I really hope some major companies hook you up and this comes on the market. I know I would definitely buy one even if they cost upwards of $3000 😅
I am really excited for this project! Actually I don't plan to build another printer in the near future, but seeing this project, this might change once the printer is a bit more refined :D I also like the way you enclosed the trident printer and think this would match this printer really well.
Thanks for this disclosure! Really looking forward to progress in this field! Having built v2.4 and v0 I am already trying to find reasons to build Trident. Idex may be perfect fit!
Eddie, this is some brilliant stuff!! Not sure where it's at now, other than watching Steve Builds put this together on his Tridex, but it looks to be a terrific concept that is VERY adaptable to other core XY builds. If only I had the skills, I'd chew off one of my own fingers to get this design incorporated into my Mercury 1 modded Ender 5 Plus. Lord knows there's enough room in the printer, but I lack the modeling skills. Great work man, hope to see more videos on this in the future, recently subbed for that reason! 🙂
Hey Eddie, awesome work! I think Tridents will have better capabilities over V2 frame due to to much weight on Z motors (my v2.4 350) is always dropping down (when unpowered!) due to weights of 2 BOM Nema17 and 4x 400mm linear rails. Trident Y gantry is fixed so weight of Gantry doesnt matter. How about X1 and X2 motors flipped upside shaft facing down and Y motors underneath facing up. On a V2 setup Y-belts and Motor will cross Z belt path. AB (X1X2) motors could move closer to center with a shorter 2020 extrusion in the back. Y belt path could be rearranged by closed loop belt to junction/tensioner on dual 20T on D-shaft. Brainstorming. Love to see more of your progress!
Thanks for the details! Been thinking about building a 350(y) x 300(x) Trident to ultimately convert to something like this. Think I'm going to do a 250 Doom Cube before that though!
I can imagine that this will be a serious task to get the belt tensions equal. But possible of course. Maybe LDO can make some 80mm ish long nema14‘s in the future, could be a thing for core xy printers:) Great project!
Those extrusions are great I just ordered a set from Misumi for my 350. 4@575 and 8@475. It was only 120 for the material but they wanted an extra 600 dollars to drill, tap and cut to precision length...
That was my first question if worried about space enlarge frame. Minimal cost for new, a little prohibative perhaps for upgrade but your replacikg 4 lomg extrusions could repurpose them for longer x axis for clearance.
Kinematics are already in klipper, core xy hybrid. One cartesian axis, one core xy based axis. Also all necessary IDEX stuff for multi material printing, but dont know about duplicate or mirror mode
You've taken several steps here which move the football forward for a future PEEK/Ultem Voron. Room for insulation and all steppers on the outside. Put another extrusion across the back to aid in mounting the external steppers. Move the belts forward a couple mm in the carriage assemblies to eliminate the rubbing. Perhaps even move a mm away from the screws also. The rubbing is adding static loading to the whole system. There will be guitar string like vibration in these long belts. Therefore, they occupy some about of greater space than the ideal CAD drawing implies. While it's attractive to use as many stock parts as possible, Voron Design is really a philosophy, and everybody will print the parts anyway. Therefore, stock has no value other than familiarity and the printer should be about what works. Nice work, will follow.
This is awesome. Moving mass becomes pretty important in this scenario. I would consider taking some inspiration from other toolheads such as Xol that weighs almost half of what the stealthburner weighs. Also with a single mgn9 in stead of the mgn12 on the x you would have less moving mass than a stock voron and an mgn9 is more than capable. Could even get one of those low weight x beams from funsor that weighs 90 grams and is as stiff as a regular extrusion (stay away from the super skeletonised ones though, they suck). Maybe something like the dragon burner toolhead would work as it's pretty slim. There are versions of those that weight like 250 gram in stead of the 480gram of the stealth burner. If you follow those steps you will have an idex that should move faster and with less ringing than a stock voron.
Awesome to se more people wanna build Voron Idex. I wait for the last parts to build a Voron idex buth i will use more custom parts and use Corexyu motion with 3 belts :) and i upgraded to run 3030 profiles instead of 2020 :)
Eddie, Regarding Y, stepper locations: What about putting the former A & B steppers closer together, providing corner idlers for the Y stepper belts and slotted mounts for the Y steppers? For the Trident setup I like your idea of mounting those four stepper out of the oven as it would allow closed loop steppers that don't get their boards baked.
Just a thought for 3-D printers I have been buying customer returns for Flashforge machines you can find them on eBay and usually the worst thing is a broken bracket that you can buy for six bucks plus shipping. However the creator pro two I don’t think would be that difficult to convert to the linear rail system you have with the two heads and probably can even run default software with it I don’t know if somebody wants to try that but it has a rigid frame already built around it
I might add some cross beam on the sides. that's where the most weight intertia will be and it doesn't get in the weight and they're still pretty cheap
I thought after upgrading to a bigger build volume printer I wouldnt want to upgrade but doing research lately to try and get my work a 3d printer have stumbled apon voron and i have really been wanting one myself now but also liked the trident more due to having a core xy and seperate z instead of what I would say a 2.4 is a core xyz. Then you topped this with duel extruders I'm very very interested. And just a curious thought to your trying to look clean and and conceal the back for packaging also, wouldnt you possibly be able to do the back 4 pieces of the frame as a 40×60 allowing for an additional panel and packaging protection. I know it will cost more and I dont know the differences but was just thinking it could help
Hi, I know I'm late to the party, but I got an idea, I think we can make idex with the original core xy system. perfect for voron 2.4. if you copy the system you have with one belt attached to each head, but instead of separate Y motors and belts, you only drive one head out to the side and lock it mechanically, for example with a servo claw. when one head is locked, you can still use the belt attached to it to pull the carriage back and forth in the Y direction and the other motor to drive the X axis. so head A is locked then motor A is the Y axis and motor B is the X and when head B is locked motor B is the Y axis and motor A is the X axis. in my mind it works and you only need to put two heads on the machine and a locking mechanism for those at each end of the X axis, then all that is missing is the magic of programming to make the system work.
Thanks for Sharing Eddie, I've been tossing around ideas in my head to expand the v2 functionality and my thoughts have been going in the same direction you've gone here. I think by the end of my project almost all of the voron DNA will be gone, which is a shame because it would have been nice to create an upgrade path for say a future trident user building stock with larger extrusion and printing "frankenvoron" plastic parts that theoretically would work just fine without the added hardware. But the further I get away from stock parts the more I'm wondering if i'm just making things harder on myself. Regardless, I enjoyed watching this video and it's given me things to consider. I hadnt thought of the dual Y axis endstops for example - I think those are a great idea regardless of kinematics. Thanks again!
@@eddietheengineer I was checking those out this morning! I'm glad to see everything has been coming together. One of my design constraints right now is that i'd like to see consistent 100c build chamber temperatures. Which, of course has a slew of considerations to take into account. Combined with a personal desire to build a machine that's wider than it is tall i'm concerned whether the core XYU design is appropriate. I think that when replacing the ABS parts with something higher temperature and using high temp gates belts that it would work as intended. Keeping the motors out of the chamber is a definite advantage. When dealing with even longer belt paths for say a 600X 300Y 300Z machine i'm thinking that the combination of heat and size may cause an unreliable loss in belt tension. However without implementing and testing that's likely a bit irrational. I was watching your 'first prints' video and noticed that it doesn't look like you have a homing switch setup on the bed like i'm seeing in the trident assembly, are you manually adjusting your z offset values? I'm wondering how hard it would be to have klipper calculate the z offsets of the two nozzles before each print. That's a feature that will ultimately save me an enormous amount of time when I get this machine built. I fully expect needing to swap nozzles a few times a week to change between materials and sizes.
Once you get up into the 80-100C range I believe things start getting more complex fast-I would assume you’d be watercooling at 100C? The large setup you are planning also seems like it would maybe be better with a different kinematic setup. For now, I’m doing a manual offset calibration but it would be great if that could get automated eventually!
@@eddietheengineer Yeah, liquid cooling is what I plan for. Though air cooling is not unreasonable. One of the work machines uses an air cooled coldend and prints ABS-PEEK+ Ultem fine, though it struggles to print materials like PETG without jamming. The doors have to be left open or else the heated bed at standard temps for petg were enough to cause heatcreep. the insulation works a little too well at that point. So it's definitely something that needs testing for general viability with pff the shelf hardware. My first priority is to start testing components for heating elements, which is already proving to be more challenging than I expected. Wattages and sizes are all over the place and from my work experience the all in one solutions are less than reliable. (atleast for types that are low temp and small enough to be safe on a desk) Then wire it up for klipper. if my standalone testing results in a safe and reliable solution. I think once that's settled, adapting it to a voron wouldnt be too hard. The belts would need to be swapped out, and testing would need to be done on higher temperature thermoplastics to see what level of heat tolerance is required. The end goal though would be that even if we needed something insane, it would just result in a new version of a PIF system for the percentage of people interested in such an investment. You could go for milled parts, but I kind of feel that it's a bit out of spirit of the Voron ecosystem if it's avoidable. I think my current bottleneck will be trying to get a broad understanding of klipper and how to write macros for it - especially with expansion and CANBUS boards. I want to thank you for posting videos on so many topics. I've been slowly working though them! I feel like software is going to be something that makes this project so much easier once I can start getting my head around it all. It's daunting for me right now.
Can klipper cope with input shaper running on both moving heads at once? I have a bcn3d sigma in bits, but Im considering klipperising it, but unsure how good the idex software is. Bcn3d stratos (cura based), is really quite well tuned for idex, I'm sure there are better slicers out there but I don't know of them or can't afford them XD.
Yes! Tridex is coming along well, the latest tweaks I have on my printer help resolve nozzle alignment issues I had early on. The wipers I have also are effective though could be refined. Tridex is due for a cad update hopefully this fall!
Yes! I think there's some advantage to having the motors outside the enclosure, but in general we aren't reaching high enough chamber temperatures or it to be an issue
Thanks for sharing. I feel the pain of printing printing injection moulded parts. It's part of my day job. I do this with pp and or ppgf30. It becomes a challenge to see how well.we can do. I print these in an ultimaker S5. Please share the location and I will.see if I can help. I do cad.
Check out the Vostok printer design by Dmitry Sorkin/K3D (has a TH-cam channel) , it uses the same Markforged kinematics and somewhat simpler printheads (not Voron infrastructure). It is now in late alpha/early beta stage, there is a working prototype and the creator is ironing out minor problems with the frame.
I would think 2020 frame with healthy angle cross bracing would be more than strong enough for the back vertical columns. That would give some nice extra room for your belt path.
Would be great if you could get in contact with a 3D printer parts manufacture like Mellow and see if they are interested in creating some aluminum parts kits. They have done this for some other members of the community and have the manufacturing equipment to mass produce really nice CNC milled aluminum parts at reasonable prices.
The main concern is that I don't want to lock in a design so that the only way to build it is to purchase machined CNC parts :) There's always the possibility of laser cut steel/aluminum though--a bit easier to source
This reminds me of my BCN3D Sigma except not junk. The sigma just never worked well for engineering grade prints. I'd love to build one of these some day!
That’s a great question! When engineers prototype parts, they need to test the shape and fitment of a part before spending a large amount of money on tooling for an injection molded part. It is best to 3d print the part early on in the design process to make sure that there are no obvious issues.
Nice overview one bit of feedback try to control your use of "um". I know its tricky to do but its possible, it makes for a more professional presentation.
Why not using some “cheaper” ball screws 🤔, like some 12mm, less Chance for them to be bent and if combining with a magnetic ball coupling you can decouple the ballscrew from the bed so that any imperfections won’t show in the print. (Sorry if the English is not “technically proper” I’m not a native English speaker). I know that the ball screws are more expensive. My point is if the stuff already expensive and well engineered why use leadscrew for the (in my opinion) most important axis in a 3d printer. The Z axis needs more resolution to keep a constant repeatability and the lead screws have to much backlash and to low of I tolerance grade to be good for precision robotics. I know some of you will say, it’s only a 3d printer and molten plastic that’s anyways inaccurate but I partly disagree.
Why even mention Voron when its not? Close to Voron build maybe but not one. If you want to scale up go Ratrig. Nice build with over 2m belts how fast can you go??? Click bait sorry
Guess an Ender 3 won't be an Ender 3 when modded then? Why mention Ratrig when it wouldn't be a Ratrig either :-P (Not comparing Enders to Voron - But a Voron as a base still makes it a Voron :-) )
it doesnt really matter tbh
this is the dumbest comment i've ever read
This is mind blowing and yet super informative - you’re doing great work Eddie - thank you for sharing!!
I don't have any plans to build a V1 or IDEX, but always enjoy your technical analysis of the design issues. Please keep us posted with updates.
This is such a brillient idea! Can’t wait to see the build. It’s people like you that advance the 3D printing industry. I really hope some major companies hook you up and this comes on the market. I know I would definitely buy one even if they cost upwards of $3000 😅
I am really excited for this project! Actually I don't plan to build another printer in the near future, but seeing this project, this might change once the printer is a bit more refined :D
I also like the way you enclosed the trident printer and think this would match this printer really well.
Exciting stuff, Eddie, appreciate you sharing the details.
Thank you very much for sharing this. I've been following and I'm finding this amazing. Fantastic work!
Thanks for this disclosure! Really looking forward to progress in this field! Having built v2.4 and v0 I am already trying to find reasons to build Trident. Idex may be perfect fit!
The trident version of this absolutely has to be known as the Voron Tridex!
Eddie, this is some brilliant stuff!! Not sure where it's at now, other than watching Steve Builds put this together on his Tridex, but it looks to be a terrific concept that is VERY adaptable to other core XY builds. If only I had the skills, I'd chew off one of my own fingers to get this design incorporated into my Mercury 1 modded Ender 5 Plus. Lord knows there's enough room in the printer, but I lack the modeling skills. Great work man, hope to see more videos on this in the future, recently subbed for that reason! 🙂
Hey Eddie, awesome work! I think Tridents will have better capabilities over V2 frame due to to much weight on Z motors (my v2.4 350) is always dropping down (when unpowered!) due to weights of 2 BOM Nema17 and 4x 400mm linear rails. Trident Y gantry is fixed so weight of Gantry doesnt matter. How about X1 and X2 motors flipped upside shaft facing down and Y motors underneath facing up. On a V2 setup Y-belts and Motor will cross Z belt path. AB (X1X2) motors could move closer to center with a shorter 2020 extrusion in the back. Y belt path could be rearranged by closed loop belt to junction/tensioner on dual 20T on D-shaft. Brainstorming. Love to see more of your progress!
So awesome. Thanks for sharing, I certainly enjoy it.
Thanks for the details! Been thinking about building a 350(y) x 300(x) Trident to ultimately convert to something like this. Think I'm going to do a 250 Doom Cube before that though!
Super cool, will be following this project for sure.
Wow, this is looking great. Well done.
I can imagine that this will be a serious task to get the belt tensions equal. But possible of course. Maybe LDO can make some 80mm ish long nema14‘s in the future, could be a thing for core xy printers:) Great project!
Those extrusions are great I just ordered a set from Misumi for my 350. 4@575 and 8@475. It was only 120 for the material but they wanted an extra 600 dollars to drill, tap and cut to precision length...
Nice, if possible you could increase the width of the frame so the 2 afterburner will have a "parking zone" outside of the bed
That was my first question if worried about space enlarge frame. Minimal cost for new, a little prohibative perhaps for upgrade but your replacikg 4 lomg extrusions could repurpose them for longer x axis for clearance.
I really like the door design. Would love to add something like that to my build.
Kinematics are already in klipper, core xy hybrid. One cartesian axis, one core xy based axis. Also all necessary IDEX stuff for multi material printing, but dont know about duplicate or mirror mode
You've taken several steps here which move the football forward for a future PEEK/Ultem Voron. Room for insulation and all steppers on the outside. Put another extrusion across the back to aid in mounting the external steppers. Move the belts forward a couple mm in the carriage assemblies to eliminate the rubbing. Perhaps even move a mm away from the screws also. The rubbing is adding static loading to the whole system. There will be guitar string like vibration in these long belts. Therefore, they occupy some about of greater space than the ideal CAD drawing implies. While it's attractive to use as many stock parts as possible, Voron Design is really a philosophy, and everybody will print the parts anyway. Therefore, stock has no value other than familiarity and the printer should be about what works. Nice work, will follow.
This is awesome. Moving mass becomes pretty important in this scenario. I would consider taking some inspiration from other toolheads such as Xol that weighs almost half of what the stealthburner weighs. Also with a single mgn9 in stead of the mgn12 on the x you would have less moving mass than a stock voron and an mgn9 is more than capable. Could even get one of those low weight x beams from funsor that weighs 90 grams and is as stiff as a regular extrusion (stay away from the super skeletonised ones though, they suck). Maybe something like the dragon burner toolhead would work as it's pretty slim. There are versions of those that weight like 250 gram in stead of the 480gram of the stealth burner. If you follow those steps you will have an idex that should move faster and with less ringing than a stock voron.
Love to have an idex trident one day. Great progress.
Awesome to se more people wanna build Voron Idex. I wait for the last parts to build a Voron idex buth i will use more custom parts and use Corexyu motion with 3 belts :) and i upgraded to run 3030 profiles instead of 2020 :)
Thank you for sharing!
Eddie, Regarding Y, stepper locations: What about putting the former A & B steppers closer together, providing corner idlers for the Y stepper belts and slotted mounts for the Y steppers? For the Trident setup I like your idea of mounting those four stepper out of the oven as it would allow closed loop steppers that don't get their boards baked.
Thanks for making this video
Just a thought for 3-D printers I have been buying customer returns for Flashforge machines you can find them on eBay and usually the worst thing is a broken bracket that you can buy for six bucks plus shipping. However the creator pro two I don’t think would be that difficult to convert to the linear rail system you have with the two heads and probably can even run default software with it I don’t know if somebody wants to try that but it has a rigid frame already built around it
I might add some cross beam on the sides. that's where the most weight intertia will be and it doesn't get in the weight and they're still pretty cheap
Thanks for sharing
I'm going to start building one tomorrow I better not have any issues.
Please do not build one if you are approaching it with this attitude! This large IDEX is not ready at all for prime time.
@@eddietheengineer I was just joking lol
Yay! Must build Idex!
Did you consider mounting the x&y motors on the bottom with vertical shafts to link the belts?
I thought after upgrading to a bigger build volume printer I wouldnt want to upgrade but doing research lately to try and get my work a 3d printer have stumbled apon voron and i have really been wanting one myself now but also liked the trident more due to having a core xy and seperate z instead of what I would say a 2.4 is a core xyz. Then you topped this with duel extruders I'm very very interested. And just a curious thought to your trying to look clean and and conceal the back for packaging also, wouldnt you possibly be able to do the back 4 pieces of the frame as a 40×60 allowing for an additional panel and packaging protection. I know it will cost more and I dont know the differences but was just thinking it could help
Hi, I know I'm late to the party, but I got an idea, I think we can make idex with the original core xy system. perfect for voron 2.4. if you copy the system you have with one belt attached to each head, but instead of separate Y motors and belts, you only drive one head out to the side and lock it mechanically, for example with a servo claw. when one head is locked, you can still use the belt attached to it to pull the carriage back and forth in the Y direction and the other motor to drive the X axis. so head A is locked then motor A is the Y axis and motor B is the X and when head B is locked motor B is the Y axis and motor A is the X axis.
in my mind it works and you only need to put two heads on the machine and a locking mechanism for those at each end of the X axis, then all that is missing is the magic of programming to make the system work.
now that I have thought more, I can see that there is possibly a problem with the forces not being balanced, so that can hurt perison.
Thanks for Sharing Eddie, I've been tossing around ideas in my head to expand the v2 functionality and my thoughts have been going in the same direction you've gone here.
I think by the end of my project almost all of the voron DNA will be gone, which is a shame because it would have been nice to create an upgrade path for say a future trident user building stock with larger extrusion and printing "frankenvoron" plastic parts that theoretically would work just fine without the added hardware. But the further I get away from stock parts the more I'm wondering if i'm just making things harder on myself.
Regardless, I enjoyed watching this video and it's given me things to consider. I hadnt thought of the dual Y axis endstops for example - I think those are a great idea regardless of kinematics. Thanks again!
Thanks for watching! Check out some of my newer videos, the “Tridex” is very close to a stock Trident but with the IDEX gantry!
@@eddietheengineer I was checking those out this morning! I'm glad to see everything has been coming together.
One of my design constraints right now is that i'd like to see consistent 100c build chamber temperatures. Which, of course has a slew of considerations to take into account.
Combined with a personal desire to build a machine that's wider than it is tall i'm concerned whether the core XYU design is appropriate. I think that when replacing the ABS parts with something higher temperature and using high temp gates belts that it would work as intended. Keeping the motors out of the chamber is a definite advantage.
When dealing with even longer belt paths for say a 600X 300Y 300Z machine i'm thinking that the combination of heat and size may cause an unreliable loss in belt tension. However without implementing and testing that's likely a bit irrational.
I was watching your 'first prints' video and noticed that it doesn't look like you have a homing switch setup on the bed like i'm seeing in the trident assembly, are you manually adjusting your z offset values? I'm wondering how hard it would be to have klipper calculate the z offsets of the two nozzles before each print. That's a feature that will ultimately save me an enormous amount of time when I get this machine built. I fully expect needing to swap nozzles a few times a week to change between materials and sizes.
Once you get up into the 80-100C range I believe things start getting more complex fast-I would assume you’d be watercooling at 100C?
The large setup you are planning also seems like it would maybe be better with a different kinematic setup.
For now, I’m doing a manual offset calibration but it would be great if that could get automated eventually!
@@eddietheengineer
Yeah, liquid cooling is what I plan for. Though air cooling is not unreasonable. One of the work machines uses an air cooled coldend and prints ABS-PEEK+ Ultem fine, though it struggles to print materials like PETG without jamming. The doors have to be left open or else the heated bed at standard temps for petg were enough to cause heatcreep. the insulation works a little too well at that point. So it's definitely something that needs testing for general viability with pff the shelf hardware.
My first priority is to start testing components for heating elements, which is already proving to be more challenging than I expected. Wattages and sizes are all over the place and from my work experience the all in one solutions are less than reliable. (atleast for types that are low temp and small enough to be safe on a desk) Then wire it up for klipper. if my standalone testing results in a safe and reliable solution. I think once that's settled, adapting it to a voron wouldnt be too hard. The belts would need to be swapped out, and testing would need to be done on higher temperature thermoplastics to see what level of heat tolerance is required. The end goal though would be that even if we needed something insane, it would just result in a new version of a PIF system for the percentage of people interested in such an investment. You could go for milled parts, but I kind of feel that it's a bit out of spirit of the Voron ecosystem if it's avoidable.
I think my current bottleneck will be trying to get a broad understanding of klipper and how to write macros for it - especially with expansion and CANBUS boards. I want to thank you for posting videos on so many topics. I've been slowly working though them! I feel like software is going to be something that makes this project so much easier once I can start getting my head around it all. It's daunting for me right now.
Considering that the motors are fixed, and it would be nice to have more torque than is needed, do you think a flexible drive is usable?
Do you have any details of the Klipper configuration and wiring to connect the Huvud boards to the RPI? Thanks!
Yesssss please, make this a reality. Would be perfect as a farm machine.
Can klipper cope with input shaper running on both moving heads at once?
I have a bcn3d sigma in bits, but Im considering klipperising it, but unsure how good the idex software is. Bcn3d stratos (cura based), is really quite well tuned for idex, I'm sure there are better slicers out there but I don't know of them or can't afford them XD.
I love how awesome this community is
Me too!
Hey Eddie, any update on your challenges with the IDEX? Looking forward to see new updates. Great work and ideas! ~ Markus
Yes! Tridex is coming along well, the latest tweaks I have on my printer help resolve nozzle alignment issues I had early on. The wipers I have also are effective though could be refined. Tridex is due for a cad update hopefully this fall!
I thought it might have been advantageous for the motors to be outside of the chamber from a thermal perspective....
Yes! I think there's some advantage to having the motors outside the enclosure, but in general we aren't reaching high enough chamber temperatures or it to be an issue
Thanks for sharing. I feel the pain of printing printing injection moulded parts. It's part of my day job. I do this with pp and or ppgf30. It becomes a challenge to see how well.we can do. I print these in an ultimaker S5. Please share the location and I will.see if I can help. I do cad.
Check out the Vostok printer design by Dmitry Sorkin/K3D (has a TH-cam channel) , it uses the same Markforged kinematics and somewhat simpler printheads (not Voron infrastructure). It is now in late alpha/early beta stage, there is a working prototype and the creator is ironing out minor problems with the frame.
I would think 2020 frame with healthy angle cross bracing would be more than strong enough for the back vertical columns. That would give some nice extra room for your belt path.
Definitely that would help! I'm still (possibly stupidly) optimistic I can fit it all within a standard Trident frame which would be my end goal
I have a 300mm trident. Can I grow the x to the 350mm frame size using 470mm extrusions and keep the 300 mm bed a still make a Tridex?
The design direction works almost perfect in theory for an ender 5 upgrade.
That’s where I’m at. Maybe a modified version of the mercury one mod for this.
Ever thing of using a dual layer HBot? Thats what I did when designing something similar.
It’s wonderful! It’s possible do it with duet and rrf?
This is exactly what I am looking for. Too bad its not out of the box.
can we get a long form video on the tridex?
What's the size of the frame ?
This was two years ago, can we build it now? There is a Voron Trident IDEX that's being sold.
How did this progress? 2yrs later….
Hello
Any news about mirror function?
come on eddie, were still impatiently waiting!!!
The Tridex is currently available to build! github.com/FrankenVoron/Tridex
Hello
Maybe belted Z will be interesting for high trident.
Ive got soo many questions and bad ideas, need to get through these videos to see why they are bad
Definately re-do the AB drives.
Would be great if you could get in contact with a 3D printer parts manufacture like Mellow and see if they are interested in creating some aluminum parts kits. They have done this for some other members of the community and have the manufacturing equipment to mass produce really nice CNC milled aluminum parts at reasonable prices.
The main concern is that I don't want to lock in a design so that the only way to build it is to purchase machined CNC parts :) There's always the possibility of laser cut steel/aluminum though--a bit easier to source
@@eddietheengineer yeah i get that. they still do some pretty cool stuff: th-cam.com/video/1Kw9cwN5QEA/w-d-xo.html
@@RazorSkinned86 I dont think mellow or trianglelabs are OEMs I think they are resellers!
This reminds me of my BCN3D Sigma except not junk. The sigma just never worked well for engineering grade prints. I'd love to build one of these some day!
one thing: why do you want to print parts that are designed for Injektion molding?
That’s a great question! When engineers prototype parts, they need to test the shape and fitment of a part before spending a large amount of money on tooling for an injection molded part. It is best to 3d print the part early on in the design process to make sure that there are no obvious issues.
I would like you to explain how to build it from scratch.
hi, i would like to try to make this project. is it possible to have a boom file and other informative material? thanks
Hey! right now it's not ready for people to build, as the design isn't finished :)
ciao , mi piacerebbe provare a realizzare questo progetto. è possibile avere un file boom ed altro materiale informativo?grazie
Nice overview one bit of feedback try to control your use of "um". I know its tricky to do but its possible, it makes for a more professional presentation.
I appreciate the feedback! I was paying more attention to that earlier in the year but haven't as much recently.
Mix Voron-RatRig!!!
That frame needs to be wider.
klipper?
Yes!
Can you share file for this project? :)
Yes! It is here: github.com/FrankenVoron/IDEX
Why not using some “cheaper” ball screws 🤔, like some 12mm, less Chance for them to be bent and if combining with a magnetic ball coupling you can decouple the ballscrew from the bed so that any imperfections won’t show in the print. (Sorry if the English is not “technically proper” I’m not a native English speaker). I know that the ball screws are more expensive. My point is if the stuff already expensive and well engineered why use leadscrew for the (in my opinion) most important axis in a 3d printer. The Z axis needs more resolution to keep a constant repeatability and the lead screws have to much backlash and to low of I tolerance grade to be good for precision robotics. I know some of you will say, it’s only a 3d printer and molten plastic that’s anyways inaccurate but I partly disagree.
RATRIG already make this but better when metal exapand.
spring belt anyone?