I think that some interesting demons would be Hercules (for some reason SMT is quite lacking when it comes to greek lore, something compensated by Persona) Belobog, to compensate for his brother already being there, Mammon, the only demon lord who hasn't made an appearance yet and finally Durga, the Hindu Goddess of war (it would be nice if she was obtained fusing Kali and Parvati, respectively her peaceful and wrathful incarnations). Another nice addition would be other minor mythical beings, like giants, elves, cyclopes and the likes, since SMT is full of big important names, but it does sound a bit weird when some rookie summoner is already owning big important names instead of "everyday" monsters.
I have coule Varcolac would be interesting vampire/werewolf that drinks the moon's blood, causing the blood moon or something like that. I still don't really get it but it sounds interesting. Kumbhakarna. We have Indrajit and Ravana so I think it should be fitting for third famous antagonist from Ramayana to make an appearance
Could you perhaps make this an ongoing series? There’s a lot of mythological and historical figures that really should be in SMT. Perhaps you could take viewer suggestions and go deeper into how they would work in game (Like their weaknesses and what spells they would learn).
Not a demon, but cmon, an appearance of King Solomon the wise, the original devil summoner, is such a perfect fit im actually quite surprised he hasn’t made a direct appearance in SMT yet (to the extend of my knowledge). Bet he could make a great boss for a potential chaos alignment route, or a powerful ally during a law route in a future SMT game.
Yeah I’m actually surprised that they never really make a point of his existence. They already have his Demons in the game and it’d be great for him or like his reincarnation to make an appearance as the original Devil summoner.
Maybe he has am Auto-Skill or Trait that makes his Physical Skills stronger and null other elements, but self-seals/undoes itself when hit with Slashing dmg? Could be fun as a one time unique Trait that has lore and combat strategy baked in.
To this day I'm amazed on how there's zero Brazilian mythology in mainline SMT games. There's so much potential in the folklore and indigenous deities here there's honestly no reason for the only representation so far is Caipora (localized "Kibra" for some reason) in DemiKids. Some great examples I'd add would be: - Boitatá, a giant flaming serpent covered with eyes, usually depicted as the protector of forests, chasing and killing those that try to start fires; - Teju Jagua/Teiú-iaguá, basically a "Brazilian Hydra", with seven canine heads coming out of a lizard-like body, said to be the god of caves and lakes in Tupi-Guarani culture; - Corpo-Seco (lit. "Dry Corpse"), the undying carcass of a man so rotten that, when he died, his soul was refused by both heaven and hell, and the earth spat out his body when he was buried, forcing him to aimlessly wander at night; - Tupã/Tupan, a Tupi-Guarani god of thunder; - Curupira, a "jungle demon" that looks like a young redhead man with backwards feet, said to be responsible for making hunters and poachers go missing, tricking them with his backwards footprints, illusions and whistles; As well as historical and literary figures, like Lampião, Macunaíma, Tiradentes, etc. There's just way too many to put as just a TH-cam comment tbh. It's got some insane potential for not just SMT, but any other mythology-themed series as well, and I'm pretty sure there's many other cultures that are just as overlooked because they aren't as well-known as the "big names" in that area.
Oh yeah and also the Headless Mule (Mula-sem-cabeça), a mule without a head and flames spitting out of it's neck, it is said to be the cursed ghost of a woman who had an affair with a priest. I can imagine this being a Haunt with a mix of fire and physical skills; And also the Saci Perere, a black one legged boy that summons whirlwinds and plays pranks on farmers by stealing random items or spoiling their milk, it could be a high agility ailment inducing Jirae demon with force based attacks.
I always thought Hector from the Iliad would be a fantastic demon/persona. One of the most tragic figures in mythology who did everything right and still ultimately got screwed by the whims of the feuding gods.
I think Marie Antoinette could be an interesting figure, maybe as a Persona. Also, I know Jeanne D'arc has been a demon in SMT but I'd love to see her as a Persona one day.
Baba Yaga would most certainly be interesting. And based on several demon designs, it's clear the pop culture is up for grabs for inspiration, so why not some of the iconic Scooby Doo monsters like Space Kook or Man in the Iron Mask? Hell, why not the ghost of an Alkatraz prisoner? Alkatraz is said to be haunted, so it could make sense.
or hell, even demons not inspired by pop culture will have inspiration for their designs, such as decarabia and nyx, decarabia being inspired from some sci-fi films, specificly the aliens from it, and nyx is elvira.
I've always wanted to see more Mexican folklore demons on smt, specially the Nahual, they're similar to a Skin walker on the sense that they take the form of animals to deceive people and eats them but they can take form or any animal. Or something more classic like La llorona just because it's so iconic.
La Llorona has actually shown up in SMT, but she was only ever in Soul Hackers (and Card Summoner, if we're counting that). Really hope they bring her back someday, like they did with Bugbear/Bugs.
@@caliburnabsolute8517 Damn, seeing La Llorona back would be so cool. Like, that bitch terrorized every kid in center and south America, she deserves more recognition lol
I think the ahuizotl (aquatic, man-eating predators with hands on their tails) could work could work in SMT, as could the chaneque (nature spirits that steal the souls of those who desecrate their land and use those souls as fertilizer). There's also the tzipitio, but I think that one's basically just Mr. Steal Your Girl? EDIT: There's also the teyollohcuani (basically a vampire, but not undead) and the cihuateteo (ghosts of women who died giving birth)
I've got a lot of demons on my SMT wishlist. Icarus, Spring-Heel Jack, King Arthur (and more figures from his legends, too), Nephthys, Kamaitachi, Apophis, the Three Musketeers, the list goes on. There is one specific idea I think could be fun, though: have Jackalope, Peryton, and Skvader as early demons that are all used for a special fusion resulting in Wolpertinger.
You know it would be great to have a Challenge Quest where you can side with The three Musketeers or The Morai Sisters and the reason why they are against each other is because they have different views on how to aproach Fate.
@@Fermin-hw5pd it could be possible, I mean an example of a demon being used once or twice could be said too for ATLAS, the man appeared in SMT I and probably II, then never showed his face again
I feel like Arthurian legends would be more for a persona game. With the final or true final boss being Morgan Le Fay. Maybe disguised as Morgana from P5 like how Igors form was stolen and used in P5. I think it would be interesting and can even allow enemy persona users to use the traitor knights like Mordred and Lancelot
I think more Shakespearean demons would be cool, my personal favorite would be Lady Macbeth or the prophetical witches from Macbeth. I’m not Shakespearean expert but there’s definitely more who could be cool like Ophelia
I am from Austria and I would like to have a weird snake-dragon-thingy called "Lindwurm", which is very popular in austria in smt.There are even some statues from this thing in my town.
@@Tony4You what I also wanted to mention is, damn your voice is so calming! Every time I watch one of your videos all my stress and negativity just floats away. Keep it up and I am excited for your following videos!
@@GodwynThePrinceOfDeath I imagine their design would be a handsome prince with the lower half and arms of a lindworm. With a crown of red and white roses and surrounded by the skulls of the brides he devorored. Definitely apart of the drake race too.
I know Leviathan has been represented in the series before but such a prominent figure in so many religions and mythos should have a bigger role to play especially since it rarely shows up at all in Mainline.
After seeing Manananggal in SMT V, I want more Filipino stuff. Also, I want to see more than just the European and Asian mythology, even if those are interesting. African, Native American, and in general more obscure stuff, as well as more modern stuff like cryptids akin to Mothman Also, conspiracy theory bs sounds fun, especially after I found out Chemtrail existed. And recently there's been so much that you could turn into demons with the internet and some *interesting* types of people.
Ah yes. Gille de Rais. My god that man was messed up and I suspect it was from the war. I think the DLC for SMT 5 means we could see some unused figures becoming demons in the future. For example imagine if they did a whole DLC for demons based around the cultures of France and England and made an actual expansion story for it basing it on the Hundred Years War. Would be cool stuff.
I have always loved Wu Kong, and would love to see more demons based on either Journey to the West or other Asian literature. Personally, seeing Zhu Bajie would be a really nice touch, seeing as how he inspired Ganon in the original Legend of Zelda; I would love to almost see a MegaTen take on Ganon's origins, if that makes any sense. However, and this is kinda obvious, I think that Horkos fits that bill really well, especially in Strange Journey. Sure, Horkos isn't Zhu Bajie, but I can see how they may've avoided another gluttonous pig demon being added. Nevertheless, my little pipe dream is always held on. I just feel Wu Kong deserves a chance to interact with other Journey to the West inspired characters. I always love when demons from specific folklore, religion, or mythology interact, so it'd be cool to see it taken even further. Awesome video, Tony!! Hopefully these demons can appear one day, and I hope you can make more videos like these. I always love this aspect of the MegaTen community, so it's really nice to learn about new things while sharing ideas with others.
I think that's a great idea, Journey to the west is one of the most famous stories of that region so I can see it happening. Also I appreciate the kind words and hope more people look into interesting folklore from around the world outside of SMT
Funny thing is: all five members of the group in journey to the west are personas in persona 2. They’re all there, but the only one that got to return was sun wukong, and only under the name seiten taisei.
I’m glad I got to hear some of your ideas for new demons. If I were to pick one, I’d want to add Judas. With SMT’s take on Lucifer and other religious texts on Judas, I think Atlus could make a very interesting new interpretation of him.
Baba Yaga is a very interesting diety. In western Slavic lore she is the oldest sister of the life trio and is essentially another alias for Mareta the death goddess , as well as being the wife/sister to Kotschschei the deathless. Also there are so many retellings and uses of her from villain to supporter she is truly a certavied girlboss.
Having more slavic folklore would be really great. We already have Chernobog, but I don't think I ever saw Belobog being mentioned. Also there are Veles and Perun. And that's only gods I got from the top of my head.
One Slavic goddess that should be in megami tensei is marzanna, the Slavic goddes of the winter, death, dreams and rebirth. The most famous thing about her is that every first day of spring an doll of her is made, it get burn and throw into the river to show the coming of spring.
I think Belobog was in If? He's one of those demons that's been out of action since the old days, though. I'd love to see him brought back to act as a counterpart to Cherno, whether he gets a redesign or not.
I kind of want more Goetic demons in SMT. We have Forneus, Decarabia, Ose, and Belphegor to name a few but there is so much more that can be used. Two demons that piqued my interest is Amy who is an ex-angel (Power) who yearns to return to heaven and Furfur who is a deer with a man’s arms and angel wings who can cause love between people. Not much is written about these demons, but they have much potential.
There are 72 Goetia demons, they can only add so much to the franchise xd, but instead of using the same ones over and over (Ose, Decarabia, Berith), they could use more others
It's so weird that I've actually seen Amy used before. There's a supervillain in comics called Sabbac whose whole gimmick is every letter of his name corrospond to a different demon, with one of the A's being for Amy, who gives him the power of flight. Such an esoteric reference compared to all the other demons who are pretty well known.
What I'd love to see is more demons based on famous literature and stories. Red Riding Hood, the Snow Queen and the like. Persona 5 was a GREAT start, but there's always room for more, IMO.
@@Fermin-hw5pd Several of the starting Personas of the Phantom Thieves are based on characters from fiction and modern mythology, like Zorro and Robin Hood.
This is a bit of personal pride but I'd like to see Shennong in SMT. He's a mythological hero in Vietnam and he's often referred to as the 'Divine Farmer'. He basically fills the same role as other harvest gods such as Demeter or Kayo-no-Hime but also the medicinal side of agriculture as well. If anything, he's definitely your support Demon in SMT.
Personally i would like to see more South American demons, specially Chilean ones, some of them are so bizarre, perfect for SMT, like El Trauco, an incubus like creature from Chiloe (an southern chilean island, source of most chilean myths), he is the son of Cai-Cai Vilu, a sea serpent that hates humanity, El Trauco has the usual stuff for an incubus, however, he has an interesting tactic, he (and i'm not making anything up) defecates in the entrances of the woman's houses as an advice of his coming, oh, and he is married to La Fiura, his daughter. However, my favorite (because it's so bizarre) is La Mesa de Parinacota (Parinacota's Table), a table that could "go for night walks" and if it did, it announced the death of a local resident, the funny thing is that the the people, instead of doing what would be done in these stories (religious ceremonies, magic rituals, that kind of things) to control the table, they simply tied it to a pillar of a church, so it couldn't go for walk
@@abyazkarim6755 don't go into his basement to look at it! Montressor was the character who bricked up Fortunado. He was resentful of Fortunado's good fortune.
I feel like Enkidu would be a good pick for an smt demon. Grendel and Gilgamesh exist in smt already, even if barely, so having them with Enkidu would just make sense
On a similar note, I'm surprised that the lamassu from Assyrian mythology was never included in a SMT game considering we have demons like Tiamat, Apsu, Anzu, Ishtar, Kaiwan, etc.
Good video! Personally, I would like more demons from Arthurian folklore/legends. According to the MegaTen wiki, there aren't actually that many, and we're still missing big names like Merlin and Lancelot. Heck, Arthur himself has apparently only shown up in Persona 2 and Devil Children!
King Solomon could be an amazing addition to any SMT game. Since so many Goetia demons are in the games he could be a boss controlling them while being still affiliated with the Law characters. I also have a personal bias since I share names with him.
@@Tony4You for sure. Much of the occult mythology, as well as gnostic Christianity is portrayed so well in this series. Solomon would be dope. Or at least a Ghost of him appearing as a side quest.
If we could have Gilles, the natural progression would be having another person with an equally notorious record, namely Elizabeth Bathory. And since we got Captain Kidd in P5, maybe Blackbeard would be next as he's pretty notorious too?
@@Tony4You I could really see him in Persona considering Albert Camus’ depiction of him being the symbol for the absurdity of human existence. I could see him being a party member. In Mainline SMT he could be a good face for a Neutral route favoring humans.
That was a very interesting take. For something that would be interesting in SMT would be the headless mule(a mule that has flames going out of it's neck) and the Boitatá(a many eyed, coated in fire serpent). Both come Brazilian folklore and offer a few interesting things. In that regard, going over religious gods and figures from native regions would be interesting too.
The big one I have on my wishlist is Nephilim. For a series all anout Law vs Chaos, it's pretty wierd how we never got a Nephilim as a sort of microcosm of this concept. Aside from that, I'd really like to see Apep, Bigfoot, Skyfish, and maybe some more "out there" ones like Davy Jones and another conspiracy theory demon.
The shoe maker could be a really interesting unwilling law aligned character. He would be so desperate for rest that any orders given by the angels he would do, unquestioning of the reasons. His boss fight could even be "unwinnable" since he is defacto immortal until he second coming of Christ, so his "last stand" could just be delaying the Neutral/Chaos party until the second coming comes around.
I'd love to see brazilian creatures or gods, they are so beautiful and with fully of history, like the Mula sem Cabeça (literaly headless mule), whose one of the legends tells about an unfaithful woman who had an affair with a village priest, condemned by God himself, turning her into a mare that spits flames out of her snout, to the point that her face is transformed into a large flame, or the Saci-Perere, a spirit in the form of a black boy who pranks housewives and farmers, braiding horses, exchanging salt for sugar, drinking the hidden alcohol and the like, the most interesting thing is how to stop him, where you can remove his iconic red beanie, something almost impossible, as the stories tell of him being so fast as to look like he's piloting a whirlpool, or trapping it in a glass bottle after capturing a whirlpool with a sieve
I’d really like to see a demon based off Cesare der Somnambule (somnambulist) from The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Considering that SMT takes some inspiration from popular culture, I think it would be nice to a see an allusion to the first horror movie. Although I admit, I think he might work better as a persona than just a demon.
Talking about literature inspired demons... How come we have Alice, but no Cheshire Cat, Jabberwocky(yea I know he kinda was there but he looked like generic basilisk) or Bandersnatch? Those are most known creatures from ”Alice in Wonderland” and imo they easily could be really great demons.
I actually have sort of a list of mythological/historical personalities that i could put here. Note however, that i approached this from the perspective of persona, so these are all sorted by potential arcana, and the list isn’t complete yet, but here goes: Fool: Perseus (the greek hero that slew medusa) Bellerophon (the greek hero that slew the chimera) Pinocchio (the wooden puppet that became a real boy) Gilgamesh (famous hero from mesopotamian mythology) Magician: Merlin (advisor of king arthur) Daedalus (greek inventor who built the labyrinth of the minotaur) Councillor: Pan (greek god of the wild) Priestess: Andromeda (greek princess that was saved by perseus) Eileithyia (greek goddess of childbirth) Helen (important figure in the trojan war) Empress: Hera (greek goddess of marriage and family and zeus’ wife) Emperor: Minos (king of crete and stepfather of the minotaur) Mithridates (historical king who immunized himself against all sorts of poison) Hierophant: Tolkien (author of the hobbit and lord of the rings) Apostle: Dante (historical author of dante’s inferno, the main source people draw from to describe the afterlife) Lovers: Aphrodite (greek goddess of love) Aeneas (son of aphrodite and mythical founder of rome) Galatea (stone statue created by pygmalion and brought to life by aphrodite) Chariot: Atalanta (greek heroine raised by a bear) Justice: Currently empty, i only have abdiel here, but for this list, i’m not mentioning the ones that are in smt already Hermit: Hephaistos (greek god of the forge) Pygmalion (greek sculptor who fell in love with one of his statues) Fortune: Currently empty Strength: Mwindo (african hero-king) Hunger: Judas (one of jesus’ followers who ended up betraying him) Hanged Man: Currently empty Death: Dracula (famous vampire) Xolotl (aztec god of death, lightning and misfortune) Temperance: Hestia (greek goddess of the hearth, formerly one of the twelve olympians) Devil: Mister Hyde (the ”evil” side of doctor jekyll) Tower: Poe (Edgar Allen Poe, one of the creators of gothic horror) Zahak (king from persian mythology who had snakes growing out of his shoulders) Jason (greek hero who found the golden fleece, ended up forsaken by the gods for cheating on his wife) Theseus (greek hero who slew the minotaur, ended up trapped in hades alongside pirithous) Pirithous (friend of theseus who wanted to marry persephone, causing hades to trap him and theseus in the underworld) Star: Currently empty Moon: Frankenstein (mad scientist who created a monster from dead human parts) Dr. Jekyll (mad scientist who created a shape-shifting potion, becoming mister hyde) Selene (greek moon goddess, a role later taken by artemis) Pyrrhus (historical greek king who won a war with such heavy losses that it created the term ”pyrrhic victory“) Coyolxauhqui (aztec moon goddess who tries to eat the sun) Sun: Icarus (son of daedalus who flew too close to the sun and fell into the ocean) Judgement: Jesus (biblical son of god) Aeon: Currently empty Faith: Momotaro (japanese hero who befriended multiple animals to fight onis) Hope: Hedone (daughter of eros and psyche, and a representation of hope) Whew, that took a bit. Like i said, this list isn’t complete, as i still have a bunch of mythology videos left to watch, and i also took out all the personas that actually are already smt demons, like abdiel, nuwa or yggdrasil
I honestly want to see how they'd adapt stuff from scientology into demons, it'd be so worth the potential lawsuit just to see Xenu come out of a fusion accident
I think the jabberwock could fit well in the SMT franchise. It is a folklore creature from a poem by Lewis Carroll, you know the Author of Alice in Wonderland, in fact the Jabberwock is featured in the story of Alice in Wonderland itself. But the poem’s description of the creature could really fit the gothic aesthetic that SMT games regularly have
I want to see more Lovecraftian figures in SMT. Since they're really going on the idea of "breaking the cycle" and surpassing the multiverse/Amala Network/Mandala System I think that Lovecraft inspired demons or gods would make perfect sense as you're facing something that not only can drive you mad simply being in it's presence but is so indescribable that the artists would have a lot of creative freedom in interpreting them for the series. Just look at Nyralethotep in the first two Personas. There's so much potential with that I'd love to see incorporated that'd be more original than standard law and chaos.
Great video! Samson is such an interesting character and would make for a great boss. It would be cool if he looses hair as the fight goes on or when the fight ends he becomes bald. As a Brazilian, I would like to suggest some being from Tupi folklore that could be interesting demons. The first one is Curupira, the name means scabies skin or small child in Tupi. He is commonly depicted as an dwarf or a child with red hair and his most notable characteristic is his foot, that is backwards. He usually pursues anyone that came to cause harm to the forests and mostly uses psychological warfare to make the hunters and lumberjacks lost in the woods. The second mythological creature is Boitata, which means fire sanke in Tupi. As the name suggests, it is a fire snake whose eyes are balls of light. In the myths, it attacks anyone who enter the forest by night or who sets forest on fire (a common method that the natives used to clear the forest for agriculture), setting those people on fire. Some say that even gaze at Boitata cause insanity. The last being is Saci or Saci Perere, it is not clear what Saci means, but Perere mean “one that hops” in Tupi. He is usually depicted as a dark skinned one legged youngster wearing a red cap and smoking a pipe (the last one is speculated as an african influence on the mythos) that usually engaged on pranks like knotting animals hair, setting animals free, spoiling food and hiding children toys (any bad luck event that could happen can be attributed to a Saci), but also causes dust devils. He could be enslaved by taking his cap or trapped by catching the dust devil on a bottle.
I'd really love to see Boudica make a debut in Megami Tensei. Badass Celtic Warrior Queen who revolted against Rome. What's not to love? Edit: Forgot to add this one. While not technically new to Megaten, I would really like to see Masakado appear as a protagonist persona or at least a fusiable persona. I just think he'd be a really cool persona to have, especially if P6 is set in Tokyo again. It'd also be really cool if when being itemized he turns into the Lord's Sword.
It isn't exactly a monster. But I there is a Irish Hill that's said to contain monsters within, and that could be a really cool setting for a smt location!
I don't _think_ any of these are in SMT, but I could be wrong; I'm a bit new to the series. Going by the usage of "demon" in SMT: • *Unktehila (Lakota)* - Lakota mythology's version of the horned water serpent found in many Algonquian cultures, inspired by misinterpretations of mammoth bones. In some tellings, it's said to be as long as a hundred horses and covered in impenetrable scales made of mica. Looking directly at Unktehila would make a mortal go blind, then go mad, and then die a day later. Unktehila had two weaknesses: its crystalline heart, located behind the seventh in a row of spots running down from its head, and lightning, the weapon of its eternal enemies. • *Kiwakwe (Abenaki)* - One of the many various cannibalistic giants found in various mythologies around the Great Lakes, like the Wendigo and the Stonecoat. Originally human, a kiwakwe is born when someone commits a truly heinous and unforgivable act, such as cannibalism or withholding food from a starving person. Their callousness turns their heart to ice and transforms them into a man-eating sorcerer. A kiwakwe is so maddeningly ravenous that it will eat its own lips, leaving only bloody shreds around its exposed teeth. • *Kokyangwuhti (Hopi)* - "Spider woman/spider grandmother," the creator goddess of Hopi mythology. Although she's typically depicted as extremely kind and powerful, she will often hold off on directly solving problems. Instead, in a few stories, she accompanies the hero on his quest in the form of a tiny spider who hides in his ear, offering him advice on how to solve problems peacefully while bewildering and humiliating his enemies. • *Virabhadra (Hindu)* - A wrathful aspect of Shiva, created in his rage and grief following the death of Sati. Virabhadra is described as "a being like the fire of fate…a mighty male and lord, destroyer of the universe," with a thousand heads and a thousand weapons. Fire streams from his hair, his tongue is lightning, and four tusks protrude from his mouth. After Shiva tasks him with despoiling the sacrifice of Daksha, Virabhadra spews an army of demigods from the pores of his skin, and his rampage shakes mountains and darkens the sun. • *Hunahpu & Xbalanque (K'iche' Maya)* - The heroic twins of Maya mythology. Their adventures comprise the oldest Maya story to have been preserved in its entirety, as told in the Popol Vuh. Throughout their story, the twins use their skill and cunning to slay arrogant gods, like the tyrant Seven Macaw and his sons, before braving the challenges presented by the gods of the underworld and defeating them in a ritualistic ballgame.
Considering that Shiva is one of my favorite SMT characters as well as religious figures, I would like to see his aspect as Bhairava (perhaps his most fierce manifestation) portrayed in SMT, especially since Parvati's aspect as Kali has already been portrayed. It would also be interesting to see a series return of the Ardhanarishvara, which is Shiva and Parvati united as a single being. A lot of Hindu deities are even more interesting in their Tantric portrayals and I'd like to see SMT delve into that. Another demon I'd like to see in SMT is the titular character from Mikhail Lermontov's poem The Demon. The demon in this poem falls in love with a human woman and manipulates himself into her life, only for his kiss to be poisonous to his beloved, killing her. There has already been a precedent set for including literary characters such as Hanns Heinz Ewers' Alraune or Nyarlathotep from Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, so a character from poetry shouldn't be a stretch for SMT.
Great video. I still waiting for SMT have a Brazilian demom, to be more specific, I want the Curupira, he's describe as a man who's responsible to protect the florest and the animal. He has a fiery hair, always carrying a spear, sometimes he's riding on a boar and the most noticeable characteristic about this creature is he's feet, they are turned to the opposite side. This last feature is what make this folklore creature so special, if anyone who is hunting him will probably follow he's footprints, but because of he's feet if the Curupira is heading to the north the hunter will think he goes to the south, making him to go to the wrong direction, and I think this is pretty genius. To be honest I don't know what kinda role he can have on SMT and Persona, but I still think he can be the perfect candidate to be the first Brazilian demom. Also if is any wrong or bad grammar let me know.
The fact the Baba Yaga has not been in SMT game really surprises me. They've dipped into Slavic lore a few times, and I feel like the old witch is like the biggest most well known entity in Slavic folklore. They know about her FOR SURE, but maybe just waiting for the right character or time?
This is easily one of my favourite topics regarding SMT. Here are some of my picks so far, all of them being of Japanese origin. 1. Dokuganryu As the name suggests (literally meaning One-eyed Dragon), this would be the personification of Masamune Date, the most powerful warlord of the north during Japan's warring states period. Masamune is an iconic samurai in his own right, who managed to go from a depressed child with smallpocks in his right eye, to a stalwart leader who weathered the storms of war and ensured his clan's survival long after the Sengoku period had ended. His enemies would fear him as the One-eyed Dragon, and he managed to avenge his father's death by annihilating the Hatakeyama clan. His portrayal in SMT would be of a samurai whose features are obscured in darkness, with one glowing red eye glaring at his enemies, and his iconic crescent-moon shining brightly on his kabuto helmet. He would emit the frightening aura of a dragon with every attack, and he would have an affinity for physical attacks, with Zio being his magic trait. His unique skill would be Wrath of Oshuu, a physical-based electric attack that ignores resistance and targets all foes. A river of blood and floating samurai corpses washes over his enemies (reminiscent of his slaughtering of the Hatakeyama), with Dokuganryu and ghosts of his allies all charging through the river on horseback, before transforming into the apparition of a blue dragon that then crashes down onto the enemies like a lightning bolt. 2. Fujin & Raijin I'm honestly surprised these two haven't already made an appearance in the series, given how iconic they are. In Shinto religion, Fujin and Raijin are the god of Wind and Lightning respectively, and sons of Izanami after she'd died and entered Yomi. When Izanagi ran from her and returned from Yomi, Izanami sent many demons and deities to capture him and bring him back. Izanagi had closed the entrance to Yomi with a boulder, but some of his pursuers managed to slip through the cracks, including Fujin and his brother Raijin. Fujin carries a bag of winds over his shoulders, while his brother Raijin floats on a cloud and causes lightning to strike by beating his rotating den-den daiko drums. In-game, they could be a duo bossfight, each weak to the other's affinity, and their unique skills would have them using their respective weapons. 3. Suijin In Shinto religion, Suijin is the Benevolent God of Water. Not much is known about him, but fishermen would often pray to him, and it is said he would grant them his protection as they fished across the sea. His dominion over water includes waterfalls and rivers, and Japanese merfolk (kappa and water dragons included) are often considered to be associated with Suijin. Given how mysterious yet prominent Tsukiyomi is in Japanese fiction, I think it would be interesting to see what Atlus could do with another mysterious Shinto god such as Suijin. Aside from water being my favourite element, I think Suijin, whilst keeping faithful to his known description, could provide for an interesting character in the story, and possibly a Neutral representative whose priority is the safety of his countrymen, only aiding the protagonist if they share his goal. As a water deity, he would naturally have an affinity for Bufu magic, and favour magic above physical strength. Appearance-wise, he'd wear white and blue robes evocative of his time, and have long, black hair that occasionally glows blue and flows as if underwater. He would take a human appearance, but in place of legs, have a long, scaly tail akin to a divine serpant. His unique skill would be a powerful ice magic that targets a single enemy, and heals the entire party based on the amount of damage dealt.
I have a suggestion: Roko’s Basilisk. A demon made by humans in their hubris. An AI so powerful and with a strict moral code to punish evil. However, it considers the very act of preventing its coming about evil. Thus, it creates recreations of all such people (clones?) and tortures them for eternity.
I'd love to see SMT's takes on Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, Krampus, and Shub-Niggurath, and I'd also want to see Cthulhu, Nyarly, Old One, and Gashadokuro return.
I hope they add Bigfoot, becuase they can add mothman, they should add the most famous cyprtic. It would be also cool to see slenderman as a demon as well.
The one I'd like to see the most is Herschel of Ostropol. He's a famous trickster of Ashkenazi folklore, whose stories mostly follow the formula of rich people are mean to Herschel and/or the Jews -> Herschel humiliates the rich people in thematically appropriate ways. In terms of design, I might be biased, but the story I was told the most of regarding Herschel was the hungry clothes (Herschel isn't allowed into a feast because he's wearing rags, he buys some new clothes, and when he's immediately let in because of his luxurious clothes, he stuffs all the food In his pockets and leaves) so I imagine a tiny old man's head wearing a suit jacket and dress pants, but instead of a body there's a giant gaping mouth...or something like that. Another one I'd like to see is Karna from the Mahabharata, the illegitimate eldest son of Kunti, the mother of the Pandavas, and the sun god Surya. In terms of design, there's ample fodder. Karna was born with a special set of earrings and armor, he has solar connections, and he died because his chariot broke due to a curse laid upon him.
As russian i would also love to see in SMT Koschei the Immortal, who is slavic lord of darkness type character, could be great Tyrant race demon in series
For the last possible "demon" discussed it sounds like he could make a great npc/alignment rep. I imagine a man cursed to walk the earth for thousands of years against his will would be happy to help cause the end of it by bringing on demons or aiding to kill God just so he could finally die.
Ok, so here is my list, with brazilian mythological creatures: Boitatá: Boitatá is a fire snake that protects the fields from the men who promote arson. In legend, the boitatá can also transform itself into a burning log to kill the men who promote it. Capelobo: It can emit frightening sounds (loud screams), this monster feeds on dogs and cats, especially those that have just been born. It also attacks hunters, killing them and drinking their victims' blood. Encouraçado: It is an invincible vampire, it feeds on any type of person, elderly, adult, teenager or child. He can also hypnotize his victims. Anhangá: In Brazilian myths, the Anhangá was a powerful spirit that protected the forests, rivers and wild animals. It usually appeared as a huge deer, white in color. Jaci: Jaci, in Tupi-Guarani mythology is the goddess of the Moon, the protector of plants, lovers and reproduction. She was raised by Tupã and is the sister of Guaraci. Guaraci: Guaraci, Quaraci, Coaraci or Coraci in Tupi-Guarani mythology is the representation of the Sun, sometimes understood as the one who gives life and creator of all living beings, just as the Sun is important in biologic processes. Tupã: He was created by Nhanderuvuçú, and is responsible for controlling the weather, climate and winds. Iara: In legends, Iara is portrayed as a beautiful woman, who attracted men with her beauty and voice. She is also the water goddess. And there's a lot more of creatures, but it would take a eternity to list them here and translate everything to English.
In Buddhist religion, Angulimala (Pali for "finger necklace") was a cruel brigand who murdered people and chopped off one of their fingers as part of an assignment by his teacher to collect one thousand fingers to finish his studies, which was actually set up by jealous pupils that wanted to get rid of him, unbeknownst to him. On his would-be 1000th kill, he came close to killing his mother, but changed his mind and went after Gautama Buddha (aka Sakya from P2), who was passing by instead. Despite the Buddha simply strolling, no matter how rapidly he pursued Sakya, he was unable to catch up with his target until he eventually tires out (The Buddha used his powers to expands the earth on which they stand to keep Angulimala at a distance, so Angulimala was basically running in places). This bewilders Angulimala so much that he calls to the Buddha to stop. The Buddha then says that he himself has already stopped, and that it is Angulimala who should stop. Angulimala asks for further explanation, after which the Buddha says that a good monk should control his desires (The Buddha has long since been freed from materialistic desire, while Angulimala is still hunting people so that he could graduate from his studies). Angulimala, impressed by the Buddha's courage and struck with guilt about what he has done, declares himself converted after listening to Buddha's teachings and vows to cease his life as a brigand and joins the Buddhist monastic order. As a monk, he is seen as a "patron saint" of childbirth after helping a woman in difficult labor give birth with his Sacca-kiriya (solemn declaration of truth), changing from a murderer to a person seen to ensure safe childbirth. This transformation helps him to find peace, even when old karma came around in the form of a resentful attacking him for taking away their loved ones, which he endure with equanimity, knowing that it is inevitable and not even Buddha can stop it from occuring. Angulimala is an example of a person who, after having done much evil, still has a possibility to change for the better that is rare to find nowadays in the world.
I'm surprised Bigfoot and Yeti haven't appeared in SMT; the former could use fire skills while the latter uses ice skills, to mirror each other. Personality-wise, Bigfoot could just be chilling as a recluse in a secluded area (maybe he can be found hidden in a Fairy Village), while Yeti would be the more hostile one. Then again, I guess Wendigo is kind of already a Yeti.
That shoemaker dude at the end would make a really dope law-aligned npc in the next SMT game. Like, maybe a mentor figure of some sort who's revealed to be some ancient ass man who's wandered the earth searching for the savior, and he finally found him in the protagonist.
Since Arsene Lupin is a Persona, a lot of old pulp heroes are game to be SMT demons. I'd love to see Sherlock Holmes, the Scarlet Pimpernel, the Shadow, the Nyctalope, Captain Nemo, Rober the Conqueror, and Cyrano de Bergerac. I'm surprised none of the Musketeers are demons. I also wish Gilgamesh made an appearance outside the demikids games.
Aw,i wish we could see Slavic mythology and folklore in SMT,like,Raróg wich is basically a Flame Falcon,Dazhbog,who is basically Slavic Helios,or Niya wich is a god of Death
If it were up to me, I would add Santa Muerta, the Mexican grim reaper, to SMT. I would also add aesir, vanir and jotunn as their own demons like how titan and asura are their own demons while they represent groups of gods. I would also add kishi, which is a demon in Angolan folklore.
I’d really like some arthurian lore based demons, like King Arthur, Merlin, Morgan Le Fay or Viviane/Nimuë. I mean we have Senata and Scathach from Celtic lore, so why not Medieval English Lore? Arthur would also make one badass demon ngl EDIT: Turns out Viviane already has a demon. Oh well. Would like her to make a comeback though
Doctor Omega from the 1906 H.G Wells-inspired French novel by Arnould Galopin would make for a neat Demon/Shadow/Persona. The book’s about a guy named Denis Borel going on an adventure to Mars with his mysterious inventor neighbour known only as Doctor Omega in a travelling machine he invented and encountering reptilian creatures along the way. If that sounds familiar to you, then you probably have through Doctor Who. A BBC TV series that began in 1963 featuring a similar premise and the First Doctor played by William Hartnell is eerily like Doctor Omega down to his physical appearance in the illustrations. When the novel was rediscovered in 2003 by a Whovian historian, debates have sprung up on wether or not the novel had any actual influence in the creation of Doctor Who including bits from the book that would appear in the show itself beyond the unlikely coincidence of the whole thing due to the book’s relative obscurity. Additionally, the book itself wasn’t exported outside of France in translated form until 2003 on Doctor Who’s 40th Anniversary. Seeing as it predated the TV by five and a half decades along with the fact it existed before the copyright extension, Doctor Omega is in the public domain and thus Atlus could use him if they want to have their equivalent to the BBC’s The Doctor in their games without outright infringing on their property as long as they don’t lean too much on the BBC created elements akin to the Lupin III legal situation a few decades ago. Plus, the visual of a character summoning a mythological/literary figure with a resemblance to William Hartnell is too rich to pass up on.
i would like to see more african spirits like the shetani or inkanyamba. or grootslong, which was deemed too powerful by the gods and split in half into the snake and elephant
1.Samson as a law exclusive boss that double crosses to law faction in the game. On chaos he would auto-join late game. A demon of either the fallen or tyrant race and has a special fusion of Melchizek x Aroich x Abanddon and specialize in physical skills Baba Yaga an early game demon that specializes in aliments of the femme,vile, or fairy race Gillie a famed or tyrant demon that involves a special fusion of Jean D'arc x Master Therion x Moh Shu x Valor. Learns powerful dark and alimighty skills.
That baba yagga story Is really cool. The fact baba yagga was deeply disturbed, and that the light the step mother requested killed said step mother, makes it very interesting.
As a another brazilian I really wish we had more representation like the return of Caipora (also know as Kibra), the Headless Mule just like others said but i want to go a bit beyond that: Pombero, also know as El Pombeiro, Pyragué (Hairy Foot), Karaí pyhare (Lord of the night) and Kuarahy Jára (Owner of the sun) is a Guarani mythological creature know in Paraguay, southern Brazil, and the northern Argentinean coast, is responsible for making sure that the fauna and flora are not threatened, that trees are not cut down, and that only animals that will serve as food for the families are sacrificed. It is common for communities to ask Pombero to take care of the crops and to protect the animals. In exchange, they offer him tobacco and honey. But this doesn't happen voluntarily. If a family forgets, he wreaks havoc in their home and is capable of leaving his victim voiceless, could take the Judgment Arcana or have a side quest to him specifically in any SMT game. Teju Jagua, the first of the seven legendary monsters*, is the god of caves, grottos, and lakes. He crawls like a lizard and eats fruit and honey. He is described as a giant lizard, with seven dog heads (or one wolf head). He has embedded in the top of his head a carbuncle stone. Its main ability is to shoot flames from its eyes. Not sure which arcana but could be treat as a Boss monster like Hydra was. Boca de Ouro is a mysterious being who, under the Bohemian garb, hides a mixture of zombie, ghost, and demon. It is a haunting whose first appearances date back to the early 20th century, he approaches lonely walkers wandering the deserted streets and always asks these unsuspecting people for fire. Whether or not he has a match (or lighter) to offer, the victim is startled when he realizes that the mysterious bohemian has the rotting face of a rotting corpse and exudes a strong smell of sulfur. Either Death or Devil arcana, could be a normal enemy in SMT. Iemanjá or Yemanjá is African goddes, mother of fish, deity of fertility, maternity, and of river waters. Protectress of children and the elderly. Patroness of fishermen, that gained a strong influence in Brazilian popular culture become the most popular Orisha - due to the african slaves that were brought in Brazil, also know as Dona Janaina, the main mythological accounts of Yemanjá unfold with the primordial orixás of the Yoruba creation of the world. In the second half of the 20th century a consensus emerged among authors that Yemanja is the daughter of the sovereign deity of the seas and oceans Olocum (the latter a female deity in Ifé and male in Benin), and this link is celebrated in the city of Ifé, considered the cradle of Yoruba civilization. Also know in Cuba. Urumina or Uruminas (plural) are fairies with very dark eyes without pupils that would have come from Japan to the Brazilian Amazon in a rainy period by pure chance, it is said that the first of them has the name of Udoka, it would be a kind of supreme mother of them all, the name of all always begins with the vowel U, in General doesn't have much information about these fairies, but it is said that they can fulfill a wish if the person does something good for nature, such as planting a tree, throwing garbage in the right place, and other things like that. * The seven legenday monsters are actually the seven children of Kerana (daughter of Maragatu and Tau (presonification spirit of evil), they had seven children, who were cursed by the great goddess Araci, and all but one were born as horrible monsters each one rulling over certain elements or , I'd love go over more of this but it would turn this coment into a essay.
@@burimuso o povo só ensina o básico, cuca, saci, loira do banheiro, etc. Mas tipo toda a mitologia tupi-guarani é braba, claro um pouco misturada por causa das diferentes tribos, mas deu pra escrever um livro tipo aquele que conta as origens dos deuses gregos.
Though we do have Juno (I don't like demons being stuck in Persona Pergetory) I want to see Hera in the games, since Greek mythology is like if the Abrahamic religion had the Goetia demons, but that's it.
I would really like to see Leraje from the Ars Goetia. Who’s described as being a marquis and holds 30 legions of demons. He’s known for wearing green and depicted as being an archer. Being opposed by the angel Michael, Leraje would pose as a pretty good agent of chaos in SMT. I also think Sif, being a goddess of fertility and of the hearth would be a great add on as well. Being known for her luscious lochs of golden hair, I feel like she would make a great appearance in a future persona game under the empress arcana.
Only recently did SMT5 have a Baltic mythological demon called 'Aitvaras', which I would like to see more Estonian, Lithuanian, Finnish, Siberian, etc. Mythological demons in SMT, some of them like Ukko, Ilmatar and so on, are Greek-like Gods, though more so presentations of aspects of things like thunder, harvest or the wind. Ilmatar is the Goddess of the Wind, and also birthed the world alongside with her child. The world came to be, as a great goose, eagle, etc. Asked to lay their eggs upon her body, which burned in her skin and accepted. The eggs eventually fell or hatched, and with it's cracks, came the sea, the land, the stars, natural forces like iron, fire, etc. Though besides gods, there are various persons mentioned in old poems of Kalevala. Some close to being demi-gods or old 'heroes' of sorts. This is also not to mention of nature spirits or 'gnomes', representing things like your land, house, water, etc. Though one common spirit-like being around those regions, is of a 'family guardian' of sorts, or the dead spirit of your relative or the one that resided in the house. In some Siberian tribes, they constructed and worshipped representation of those spirits, as dolls made in their appearance. And in-general, dead were greatly mourned for and was a ritual in itself.
There's also animal-like mythological creatures, though bears were in-general greatly worshipped within those areas and around Ainu as well. There were rituals and so on when hunting them, sometimes frequently with a spear even. Also the 'iron eagle/hawk' in Finnish mythology, suppose to be a giant bird of made iron and fire as well. With it's back, it carries 1000 soldiers, made of steel/iron as well. Not to mention 'Swan of Tuonela', which is a sort of a guardian for the river of the dead, which if touched or harmed, the person would have their body entirely torn apart.
I really like the way you explain these. It would be interesting to see what they would be interpreted to look like in SMT as well. Thank you for the video!
I'd like to see the main characters from Edmund Spencer's The Faerie Queene, and African characters like Anansi, Oshun, Sundiata, Mwindo and Shango. They could look into the cosmology of the Dogon people and use it in a game.
Some demons I'd like to see in SMT The Green Knight, The Otherworldy Fey like knight that had his head sliced off by Gawaiin only to not die and vowed to do the same to Gawaiin King Arthur: I know we have the Ligit Pendragon in SMT But having a Genma Demon based on King Arthur would be cool, though I doubt we shall see him because we got both Pendragon and Fion mc cumhill both heavily inspired by Arthurian legends Changeling: Similar to a Succubus but takes the form of whatever you most desire in a person, I can see this demon being very creative and having all kinds of Parts to em Hachishakusama: Considering the Popularity of Lady D in Resident Evil 8 plus its a Good demon to Represent Modern Demons being made from Urban Legends Count Dracula: Cmon Lets have the Big Daddy Vampire in a SMT Game it be hilarious Typhon: The Greek Equvilant to Godzilla Balarama: We got Krishna why not his Brother from another mother, could also be a Alternative Avatar of Seisha/Vatsuki Freya: We got alot of intresting Norse Gods and some that were realtivily unknown, why not have the Norse Goddess everyone wont Shut up about and the one every Giant wants to bone lol Mamon: The Demon Prince of Greed, could be cool to see him as a Merchant in a SMT game
I love these ideas! Hmm if I was to suggest one, going off SMTV being willing to do different types of werewolves and the Skin Walker idea how about the Livonian werewolf, otherwise known as the Hounds of God? According to Thiess of Kaltenbrun, they transformed on three nights a year, and then traveled down to Hell. Once there, they fought with the Devil and his witches in order to rescue the grain and livestock which the witches had stolen from the Earth. I think they would be a awesome addition to ranks of Law.
Not really a single demon, but I would like to see the grigori (fallen angels from the book of Enoch) featured as a faction in one of the games. We’ve seen some of its members throughout the series like azazel and samyaza, as well as ramiel in DeSu but they’re thrown in with existing races and alignments.
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I think that some interesting demons would be Hercules (for some reason SMT is quite lacking when it comes to greek lore, something compensated by Persona) Belobog, to compensate for his brother already being there, Mammon, the only demon lord who hasn't made an appearance yet and finally Durga, the Hindu Goddess of war (it would be nice if she was obtained fusing Kali and Parvati, respectively her peaceful and wrathful incarnations). Another nice addition would be other minor mythical beings, like giants, elves, cyclopes and the likes, since SMT is full of big important names, but it does sound a bit weird when some rookie summoner is already owning big important names instead of "everyday" monsters.
Tony a time traveler? :o
Demon Santa, when?
I think Dante from Dante inferno would be a great final persona for a main protagonist, being a mix of a fire, and almighty persona
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Varcolac would be interesting vampire/werewolf that drinks the moon's blood, causing the blood moon or something like that. I still don't really get it but it sounds interesting.
Kumbhakarna. We have Indrajit and Ravana so I think it should be fitting for third famous antagonist from Ramayana to make an appearance
Could you perhaps make this an ongoing series? There’s a lot of mythological and historical figures that really should be in SMT. Perhaps you could take viewer suggestions and go deeper into how they would work in game (Like their weaknesses and what spells they would learn).
Could be interesting for sure. Whenever inspiration strikes I could make a part 2 since there are just so many good suggestions
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@@Tony4You this would make an amazing series.
I would really like to see Alexander The Great in future SMT
@@Tony4You PLEASE make this a series it’s so cool
Not a demon, but cmon, an appearance of King Solomon the wise, the original devil summoner, is such a perfect fit im actually quite surprised he hasn’t made a direct appearance in SMT yet (to the extend of my knowledge).
Bet he could make a great boss for a potential chaos alignment route, or a powerful ally during a law route in a future SMT game.
Yeah I’m actually surprised that they never really make a point of his existence. They already have his Demons in the game and it’d be great for him or like his reincarnation to make an appearance as the original Devil summoner.
@@Binks129 or even better, make a game that centers on him as the protag (obviously reincarnated!)
Or even a final boss, maybe for Devil Survivor 3?
Samson would be great in persona could make him strong/immune to every physical type other than slashing. Can't have his hair getting cut
He can wield a pillar as a weapon.
He would also be weak to Fire because Fire can burn his hair
Weak to brainwash, too. Or mirage, since he was blinded
Maybe he has am Auto-Skill or Trait that makes his Physical Skills stronger and null other elements, but self-seals/undoes itself when hit with Slashing dmg?
Could be fun as a one time unique Trait that has lore and combat strategy baked in.
Tower could be interesting too
To this day I'm amazed on how there's zero Brazilian mythology in mainline SMT games. There's so much potential in the folklore and indigenous deities here there's honestly no reason for the only representation so far is Caipora (localized "Kibra" for some reason) in DemiKids. Some great examples I'd add would be:
- Boitatá, a giant flaming serpent covered with eyes, usually depicted as the protector of forests, chasing and killing those that try to start fires;
- Teju Jagua/Teiú-iaguá, basically a "Brazilian Hydra", with seven canine heads coming out of a lizard-like body, said to be the god of caves and lakes in Tupi-Guarani culture;
- Corpo-Seco (lit. "Dry Corpse"), the undying carcass of a man so rotten that, when he died, his soul was refused by both heaven and hell, and the earth spat out his body when he was buried, forcing him to aimlessly wander at night;
- Tupã/Tupan, a Tupi-Guarani god of thunder;
- Curupira, a "jungle demon" that looks like a young redhead man with backwards feet, said to be responsible for making hunters and poachers go missing, tricking them with his backwards footprints, illusions and whistles;
As well as historical and literary figures, like Lampião, Macunaíma, Tiradentes, etc.
There's just way too many to put as just a TH-cam comment tbh.
It's got some insane potential for not just SMT, but any other mythology-themed series as well, and I'm pretty sure there's many other cultures that are just as overlooked because they aren't as well-known as the "big names" in that area.
Oh yeah and also the Headless Mule (Mula-sem-cabeça), a mule without a head and flames spitting out of it's neck, it is said to be the cursed ghost of a woman who had an affair with a priest. I can imagine this being a Haunt with a mix of fire and physical skills;
And also the Saci Perere, a black one legged boy that summons whirlwinds and plays pranks on farmers by stealing random items or spoiling their milk, it could be a high agility ailment inducing Jirae demon with force based attacks.
I always thought Hector from the Iliad would be a fantastic demon/persona. One of the most tragic figures in mythology who did everything right and still ultimately got screwed by the whims of the feuding gods.
Yeah for sure, An important figure in Greek history deserves to be in the game
I think Marie Antoinette could be an interesting figure, maybe as a Persona. Also, I know Jeanne D'arc has been a demon in SMT but I'd love to see her as a Persona one day.
I think Jeanne is a persona in Persona Q2 (the last released 3DS game ever so not many played it) but don't quote me on that.
@@krimsonkatt it is
and maybe the headless horseman
Baba Yaga would most certainly be interesting. And based on several demon designs, it's clear the pop culture is up for grabs for inspiration, so why not some of the iconic Scooby Doo monsters like Space Kook or Man in the Iron Mask? Hell, why not the ghost of an Alkatraz prisoner? Alkatraz is said to be haunted, so it could make sense.
Let's just add Scooby himself lol
What the fuck is wrong with you.
I'm loving the idea of Scooby's evade animation being him clambering out of the way like he always does
The Mario Bros. as SMT demons.
or hell, even demons not inspired by pop culture will have inspiration for their designs, such as decarabia and nyx, decarabia being inspired from some sci-fi films, specificly the aliens from it, and nyx is elvira.
I've always wanted to see more Mexican folklore demons on smt, specially the Nahual, they're similar to a Skin walker on the sense that they take the form of animals to deceive people and eats them but they can take form or any animal.
Or something more classic like La llorona just because it's so iconic.
La Llorona has actually shown up in SMT, but she was only ever in Soul Hackers (and Card Summoner, if we're counting that). Really hope they bring her back someday, like they did with Bugbear/Bugs.
Agree, I heard of La IIorona a while ago and was really interested.
@@caliburnabsolute8517 Damn, seeing La Llorona back would be so cool. Like, that bitch terrorized every kid in center and south America, she deserves more recognition lol
Alebrijes, just imagine the possibilities.
I think the ahuizotl (aquatic, man-eating predators with hands on their tails) could work could work in SMT, as could the chaneque (nature spirits that steal the souls of those who desecrate their land and use those souls as fertilizer). There's also the tzipitio, but I think that one's basically just Mr. Steal Your Girl?
EDIT: There's also the teyollohcuani (basically a vampire, but not undead) and the cihuateteo (ghosts of women who died giving birth)
I've got a lot of demons on my SMT wishlist. Icarus, Spring-Heel Jack, King Arthur (and more figures from his legends, too), Nephthys, Kamaitachi, Apophis, the Three Musketeers, the list goes on. There is one specific idea I think could be fun, though: have Jackalope, Peryton, and Skvader as early demons that are all used for a special fusion resulting in Wolpertinger.
Great list honestly. More folklore Atlus PLEASE
You know it would be great to have a Challenge Quest where you can side with The three Musketeers or The Morai Sisters and the reason why they are against each other is because they have different views on how to aproach Fate.
I think King Arthur is already on SMT, he appears on the Persona 2 games
@@Fermin-hw5pd it could be possible, I mean an example of a demon being used once or twice could be said too for ATLAS, the man appeared in SMT I and probably II, then never showed his face again
I feel like Arthurian legends would be more for a persona game. With the final or true final boss being Morgan Le Fay. Maybe disguised as Morgana from P5 like how Igors form was stolen and used in P5. I think it would be interesting and can even allow enemy persona users to use the traitor knights like Mordred and Lancelot
I think more Shakespearean demons would be cool, my personal favorite would be Lady Macbeth or the prophetical witches from Macbeth. I’m not Shakespearean expert but there’s definitely more who could be cool like Ophelia
Oh I didn't even think of that, they certainly are culturally relevant. Would be cool to see their interpretations
Bottom would be great
I am from Austria and I would like to have a weird snake-dragon-thingy called "Lindwurm", which is very popular in austria in smt.There are even some statues from this thing in my town.
Prince Lindwurn would be great
Hey, the more folklore demons the merrier. I'd love to see it
@@Tony4You what I also wanted to mention is, damn your voice is so calming! Every time I watch one of your videos all my stress and negativity just floats away. Keep it up and I am excited for your following videos!
@@GodwynThePrinceOfDeath I imagine their design would be a handsome prince with the lower half and arms of a lindworm. With a crown of red and white roses and surrounded by the skulls of the brides he devorored. Definitely apart of the drake race too.
@@persomiissleepy atlus needs to hire you or something because that would be cool as fuck
I know Leviathan has been represented in the series before but such a prominent figure in so many religions and mythos should have a bigger role to play especially since it rarely shows up at all in Mainline.
Debated whether or not to put him on, but because I talk about him in another video I decided against it. Hard agree though
Would be cool to have some representation for Behemoth and Ziz, too.
How about Krampus? A central European Demon/Monster who acts as the punishing counterpart to Santa Claus.
This is the most Smt thing ever lol
I imagine a funny side quest with him tho
Also Santa Claus should be aleardy in MT too
Literally thought of Krampus like a day before the video was to be released lol. Maybe I'll make a follow up
Yes please, more lore and mythos expanding outside of SMT. No one else is doing content like this, it's really unique and well researched.
Wow thanks a lot! I hope people like the video enough to want more
I'd love to see Dracula as a demon, or if we're talking folklore demons, then the Loch Ness Monster would be really cool.
Yeah more cryptids would be cool. Who doesn't like Mothman?
After seeing Manananggal in SMT V, I want more Filipino stuff. Also, I want to see more than just the European and Asian mythology, even if those are interesting. African, Native American, and in general more obscure stuff, as well as more modern stuff like cryptids akin to Mothman
Also, conspiracy theory bs sounds fun, especially after I found out Chemtrail existed. And recently there's been so much that you could turn into demons with the internet and some *interesting* types of people.
I think Chemtrail in an unique concept to use as a demon
What if they added that Filipino Facebook lady with 100 accounts into SMT
@@Fermin-hw5pd holy shit I would love that actually
Tons of Filipino mythological creatures to choose from actually; being the likes of Kapre, Tikbalang, Tiyanak, and White Ladies, among others.
Ah yes. Gille de Rais. My god that man was messed up and I suspect it was from the war. I think the DLC for SMT 5 means we could see some unused figures becoming demons in the future. For example imagine if they did a whole DLC for demons based around the cultures of France and England and made an actual expansion story for it basing it on the Hundred Years War. Would be cool stuff.
I'm good with Jeanne D'arc coming back, honestly
I'd like to see Zagreus, Hades and Orphic Dionisus as well as the return of lovecraftian and zoroastrian deities in future entries
Honestly would be awesome to see
Orphic Dionysus with his ram horns would be really cool
Yes for Zoroastrian figures. Angra Manyu would be an incredible main viallain/final boss.
I'm still surprised that Hades hasn't shown up yet, especially with Zeus and Demeter being in recent games.
Hades is in the games, but only as a persona of Eikichi
I have always loved Wu Kong, and would love to see more demons based on either Journey to the West or other Asian literature. Personally, seeing Zhu Bajie would be a really nice touch, seeing as how he inspired Ganon in the original Legend of Zelda; I would love to almost see a MegaTen take on Ganon's origins, if that makes any sense. However, and this is kinda obvious, I think that Horkos fits that bill really well, especially in Strange Journey. Sure, Horkos isn't Zhu Bajie, but I can see how they may've avoided another gluttonous pig demon being added. Nevertheless, my little pipe dream is always held on. I just feel Wu Kong deserves a chance to interact with other Journey to the West inspired characters. I always love when demons from specific folklore, religion, or mythology interact, so it'd be cool to see it taken even further.
Awesome video, Tony!! Hopefully these demons can appear one day, and I hope you can make more videos like these. I always love this aspect of the MegaTen community, so it's really nice to learn about new things while sharing ideas with others.
I think that's a great idea, Journey to the west is one of the most famous stories of that region so I can see it happening. Also I appreciate the kind words and hope more people look into interesting folklore from around the world outside of SMT
I feel like tang sazang/ zuanzang would be interesting to introduce.
Funny thing is: all five members of the group in journey to the west are personas in persona 2. They’re all there, but the only one that got to return was sun wukong, and only under the name seiten taisei.
Atleast smt has sun wukong
I’m glad I got to hear some of your ideas for new demons. If I were to pick one, I’d want to add Judas.
With SMT’s take on Lucifer and other religious texts on Judas, I think Atlus could make a very interesting new interpretation of him.
Judas was definitely one that I wanted to add to the list, more biblical demons is always welcome
Baba Yaga is a very interesting diety. In western Slavic lore she is the oldest sister of the life trio and is essentially another alias for Mareta the death goddess , as well as being the wife/sister to Kotschschei the deathless. Also there are so many retellings and uses of her from villain to supporter she is truly a certavied girlboss.
Кощей так пишеться на английском?
@@nykita427 Koschei по крайней мере в английской википедии именно так
I want to see Koschei, he is a Slavik folclore Lich. The immortal sorcerer stealing chicks. It would be cool
Oh very interesting. I definitely could go way deeper into her lore, but I'll save that for if she is in the game lol
@@nykita427 как я понимаю да, потому что по английскому ис щ станет tsch
Having more slavic folklore would be really great. We already have Chernobog, but I don't think I ever saw Belobog being mentioned. Also there are Veles and Perun. And that's only gods I got from the top of my head.
One Slavic goddess that should be in megami tensei is marzanna, the Slavic goddes of the winter, death, dreams and rebirth. The most famous thing about her is that every first day of spring an doll of her is made, it get burn and throw into the river to show the coming of spring.
@@starmaker75 and plenty of more common supernatural creatures. Kikimora, Leshy, Domovoi, Vodyanoy to name a few.
Slavic folklore is always so awesome I agree. More is always welcome
I think Belobog was in If? He's one of those demons that's been out of action since the old days, though. I'd love to see him brought back to act as a counterpart to Cherno, whether he gets a redesign or not.
belobog has an apperance in demi-kids, but that's it.
I kind of want more Goetic demons in SMT. We have Forneus, Decarabia, Ose, and Belphegor to name a few but there is so much more that can be used. Two demons that piqued my interest is Amy who is an ex-angel (Power) who yearns to return to heaven and Furfur who is a deer with a man’s arms and angel wings who can cause love between people. Not much is written about these demons, but they have much potential.
There are 72 Goetia demons, they can only add so much to the franchise xd, but instead of using the same ones over and over (Ose, Decarabia, Berith), they could use more others
It's so weird that I've actually seen Amy used before. There's a supervillain in comics called Sabbac whose whole gimmick is every letter of his name corrospond to a different demon, with one of the A's being for Amy, who gives him the power of flight. Such an esoteric reference compared to all the other demons who are pretty well known.
What I'd love to see is more demons based on famous literature and stories. Red Riding Hood, the Snow Queen and the like. Persona 5 was a GREAT start, but there's always room for more, IMO.
Great idea actually, people seem to really want more folklore and popular culture demons. I think they would be interesting to see in game
What do you mean with Persona 5 was a great start, in what regard
Imagine Grimm fairy tale inspired demons. Oh that'd be so fitting...
@@Fermin-hw5pd Several of the starting Personas of the Phantom Thieves are based on characters from fiction and modern mythology, like Zorro and Robin Hood.
The Little Prince
This is a bit of personal pride but I'd like to see Shennong in SMT. He's a mythological hero in Vietnam and he's often referred to as the 'Divine Farmer'. He basically fills the same role as other harvest gods such as Demeter or Kayo-no-Hime but also the medicinal side of agriculture as well. If anything, he's definitely your support Demon in SMT.
If we ever get the Frenchmen as a demon, well to quote the man himself "SAIKOU NO COOOOOOOL!!!"
Personally i would like to see more South American demons, specially Chilean ones, some of them are so bizarre, perfect for SMT, like El Trauco, an incubus like creature from Chiloe (an southern chilean island, source of most chilean myths), he is the son of Cai-Cai Vilu, a sea serpent that hates humanity, El Trauco has the usual stuff for an incubus, however, he has an interesting tactic, he (and i'm not making anything up) defecates in the entrances of the woman's houses as an advice of his coming, oh, and he is married to La Fiura, his daughter.
However, my favorite (because it's so bizarre) is La Mesa de Parinacota (Parinacota's Table), a table that could "go for night walks" and if it did, it announced the death of a local resident, the funny thing is that the the people, instead of doing what would be done in these stories (religious ceremonies, magic rituals, that kind of things) to control the table, they simply tied it to a pillar of a church, so it couldn't go for walk
I always thought that a new skeleton fiend would be cool, but I can never think of one.
I always thought a cowboy fiend would be cool.
@@Warchief-te9jj that's a pretty good one, why didn't I think of that
I actually designed a fiend that was based on Fortunado from a cask of amontillado
@@sodapop8900 was that the guy behind the brick wall or the one that made it?
+ can I see it?
@@abyazkarim6755 don't go into his basement to look at it!
Montressor was the character who bricked up Fortunado. He was resentful of Fortunado's good fortune.
I feel like Enkidu would be a good pick for an smt demon. Grendel and Gilgamesh exist in smt already, even if barely, so having them with Enkidu would just make sense
On a similar note, I'm surprised that the lamassu from Assyrian mythology was never included in a SMT game considering we have demons like Tiamat, Apsu, Anzu, Ishtar, Kaiwan, etc.
Good video! Personally, I would like more demons from Arthurian folklore/legends. According to the MegaTen wiki, there aren't actually that many, and we're still missing big names like Merlin and Lancelot. Heck, Arthur himself has apparently only shown up in Persona 2 and Devil Children!
King Solomon could be an amazing addition to any SMT game. Since so many Goetia demons are in the games he could be a boss controlling them while being still affiliated with the Law characters. I also have a personal bias since I share names with him.
Absolutely, there's enough Goetia demons to justify Solomon himself lol. Law 4 life
@@Tony4You for sure. Much of the occult mythology, as well as gnostic Christianity is portrayed so well in this series. Solomon would be dope. Or at least a Ghost of him appearing as a side quest.
If we could have Gilles, the natural progression would be having another person with an equally notorious record, namely Elizabeth Bathory.
And since we got Captain Kidd in P5, maybe Blackbeard would be next as he's pretty notorious too?
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You know who should be in SMT as a Demon? Sisyphus. He’s absolutely perfect IMO.
Hard agree
@@Tony4You I could really see him in Persona considering Albert Camus’ depiction of him being the symbol for the absurdity of human existence. I could see him being a party member.
In Mainline SMT he could be a good face for a Neutral route favoring humans.
What about Zagreus?
@@alexterieur8813 Zagreus is nowhere near as iconic and thematically appropriate for an SMT or Persona game.
That was a very interesting take. For something that would be interesting in SMT would be the headless mule(a mule that has flames going out of it's neck) and the Boitatá(a many eyed, coated in fire serpent). Both come Brazilian folklore and offer a few interesting things.
In that regard, going over religious gods and figures from native regions would be interesting too.
Sounds like a really interesting demon, Brazilian was something I saw a lot requested in the comments. Gonna be something I look into
I wanna see Jack Skellington/Jack the Ripper again so the Jack Bros trio can be completed again in 3D
More Jack bros, more fun
Can't forget Hairy Jack either
We NEED to get lucifrost as smt 5 dlc or at least at smt 6
The big one I have on my wishlist is Nephilim. For a series all anout Law vs Chaos, it's pretty wierd how we never got a Nephilim as a sort of microcosm of this concept. Aside from that, I'd really like to see Apep, Bigfoot, Skyfish, and maybe some more "out there" ones like Davy Jones and another conspiracy theory demon.
As an artist I've always thought of stuff like this it's super fun to make demons out of theses unused demon ideas
Artist interpretations are always nice to see, taking the creativity of SMT interpretations always makes it interesting
@@Tony4You I'm gonna join the discord so I can be with my fellow smt artist if there are there
The shoe maker could be a really interesting unwilling law aligned character. He would be so desperate for rest that any orders given by the angels he would do, unquestioning of the reasons. His boss fight could even be "unwinnable" since he is defacto immortal until he second coming of Christ, so his "last stand" could just be delaying the Neutral/Chaos party until the second coming comes around.
I'd love to see brazilian creatures or gods, they are so beautiful and with fully of history, like the Mula sem Cabeça (literaly headless mule), whose one of the legends tells about an unfaithful woman who had an affair with a village priest, condemned by God himself, turning her into a mare that spits flames out of her snout, to the point that her face is transformed into a large flame, or the Saci-Perere, a spirit in the form of a black boy who pranks housewives and farmers, braiding horses, exchanging salt for sugar, drinking the hidden alcohol and the like, the most interesting thing is how to stop him, where you can remove his iconic red beanie, something almost impossible, as the stories tell of him being so fast as to look like he's piloting a whirlpool, or trapping it in a glass bottle after capturing a whirlpool with a sieve
I’d really like to see a demon based off Cesare der Somnambule (somnambulist) from The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Considering that SMT takes some inspiration from popular culture, I think it would be nice to a see an allusion to the first horror movie. Although I admit, I think he might work better as a persona than just a demon.
Talking about literature inspired demons... How come we have Alice, but no Cheshire Cat, Jabberwocky(yea I know he kinda was there but he looked like generic basilisk) or Bandersnatch?
Those are most known creatures from ”Alice in Wonderland” and imo they easily could be really great demons.
I actually have sort of a list of mythological/historical personalities that i could put here. Note however, that i approached this from the perspective of persona, so these are all sorted by potential arcana, and the list isn’t complete yet, but here goes:
Fool:
Perseus (the greek hero that slew medusa)
Bellerophon (the greek hero that slew the chimera)
Pinocchio (the wooden puppet that became a real boy)
Gilgamesh (famous hero from mesopotamian mythology)
Magician:
Merlin (advisor of king arthur)
Daedalus (greek inventor who built the labyrinth of the minotaur)
Councillor:
Pan (greek god of the wild)
Priestess:
Andromeda (greek princess that was saved by perseus)
Eileithyia (greek goddess of childbirth)
Helen (important figure in the trojan war)
Empress:
Hera (greek goddess of marriage and family and zeus’ wife)
Emperor:
Minos (king of crete and stepfather of the minotaur)
Mithridates (historical king who immunized himself against all sorts of poison)
Hierophant:
Tolkien (author of the hobbit and lord of the rings)
Apostle:
Dante (historical author of dante’s inferno, the main source people draw from to describe the afterlife)
Lovers:
Aphrodite (greek goddess of love)
Aeneas (son of aphrodite and mythical founder of rome)
Galatea (stone statue created by pygmalion and brought to life by aphrodite)
Chariot:
Atalanta (greek heroine raised by a bear)
Justice:
Currently empty, i only have abdiel here, but for this list, i’m not mentioning the ones that are in smt already
Hermit:
Hephaistos (greek god of the forge)
Pygmalion (greek sculptor who fell in love with one of his statues)
Fortune:
Currently empty
Strength:
Mwindo (african hero-king)
Hunger:
Judas (one of jesus’ followers who ended up betraying him)
Hanged Man:
Currently empty
Death:
Dracula (famous vampire)
Xolotl (aztec god of death, lightning and misfortune)
Temperance:
Hestia (greek goddess of the hearth, formerly one of the twelve olympians)
Devil:
Mister Hyde (the ”evil” side of doctor jekyll)
Tower:
Poe (Edgar Allen Poe, one of the creators of gothic horror)
Zahak (king from persian mythology who had snakes growing out of his shoulders)
Jason (greek hero who found the golden fleece, ended up forsaken by the gods for cheating on his wife)
Theseus (greek hero who slew the minotaur, ended up trapped in hades alongside pirithous)
Pirithous (friend of theseus who wanted to marry persephone, causing hades to trap him and theseus in the underworld)
Star:
Currently empty
Moon:
Frankenstein (mad scientist who created a monster from dead human parts)
Dr. Jekyll (mad scientist who created a shape-shifting potion, becoming mister hyde)
Selene (greek moon goddess, a role later taken by artemis)
Pyrrhus (historical greek king who won a war with such heavy losses that it created the term ”pyrrhic victory“)
Coyolxauhqui (aztec moon goddess who tries to eat the sun)
Sun:
Icarus (son of daedalus who flew too close to the sun and fell into the ocean)
Judgement:
Jesus (biblical son of god)
Aeon:
Currently empty
Faith:
Momotaro (japanese hero who befriended multiple animals to fight onis)
Hope:
Hedone (daughter of eros and psyche, and a representation of hope)
Whew, that took a bit. Like i said, this list isn’t complete, as i still have a bunch of mythology videos left to watch, and i also took out all the personas that actually are already smt demons, like abdiel, nuwa or yggdrasil
I'm surprised some of those aren't in SMT yet, like Gilgamesh
@@Fermin-hw5pd gilgamesh is actually in the demikids games, but i still counted him as he isn’t in mainline smt
I honestly want to see how they'd adapt stuff from scientology into demons, it'd be so worth the potential lawsuit just to see Xenu come out of a fusion accident
I think the jabberwock could fit well in the SMT franchise. It is a folklore creature from a poem by Lewis Carroll, you know the Author of Alice in Wonderland, in fact the Jabberwock is featured in the story of Alice in Wonderland itself. But the poem’s description of the creature could really fit the gothic aesthetic that SMT games regularly have
imagine if Atlus finally adding Baba Yaga into the game and it's just a man in black suit carrying a gun
I want to see more Lovecraftian figures in SMT. Since they're really going on the idea of "breaking the cycle" and surpassing the multiverse/Amala Network/Mandala System I think that Lovecraft inspired demons or gods would make perfect sense as you're facing something that not only can drive you mad simply being in it's presence but is so indescribable that the artists would have a lot of creative freedom in interpreting them for the series.
Just look at Nyralethotep in the first two Personas. There's so much potential with that I'd love to see incorporated that'd be more original than standard law and chaos.
I have been advocating for Gille de Rais for years now. Thanks for talking about him. One of the most twisted men in history; perfect for SMT
Having Gilles De Rais and more Slavic folklore in SMT would be so dope
Gilles de rais i agree
Great video! Samson is such an interesting character and would make for a great boss. It would be cool if he looses hair as the fight goes on or when the fight ends he becomes bald.
As a Brazilian, I would like to suggest some being from Tupi folklore that could be interesting demons.
The first one is Curupira, the name means scabies skin or small child in Tupi. He is commonly depicted as an dwarf or a child with red hair and his most notable characteristic is his foot, that is backwards. He usually pursues anyone that came to cause harm to the forests and mostly uses psychological warfare to make the hunters and lumberjacks lost in the woods.
The second mythological creature is Boitata, which means fire sanke in Tupi. As the name suggests, it is a fire snake whose eyes are balls of light. In the myths, it attacks anyone who enter the forest by night or who sets forest on fire (a common method that the natives used to clear the forest for agriculture), setting those people on fire. Some say that even gaze at Boitata cause insanity.
The last being is Saci or Saci Perere, it is not clear what Saci means, but Perere mean “one that hops” in Tupi. He is usually depicted as a dark skinned one legged youngster wearing a red cap and smoking a pipe (the last one is speculated as an african influence on the mythos) that usually engaged on pranks like knotting animals hair, setting animals free, spoiling food and hiding children toys (any bad luck event that could happen can be attributed to a Saci), but also causes dust devils. He could be enslaved by taking his cap or trapped by catching the dust devil on a bottle.
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I'd really love to see Boudica make a debut in Megami Tensei.
Badass Celtic Warrior Queen who revolted against Rome.
What's not to love?
Edit: Forgot to add this one. While not technically new to Megaten, I would really like to see Masakado appear as a protagonist persona or at least a fusiable persona. I just think he'd be a really cool persona to have, especially if P6 is set in Tokyo again. It'd also be really cool if when being itemized he turns into the Lord's Sword.
It isn't exactly a monster.
But I there is a Irish Hill that's said to contain monsters within, and that could be a really cool setting for a smt location!
I don't _think_ any of these are in SMT, but I could be wrong; I'm a bit new to the series. Going by the usage of "demon" in SMT:
• *Unktehila (Lakota)* - Lakota mythology's version of the horned water serpent found in many Algonquian cultures, inspired by misinterpretations of mammoth bones. In some tellings, it's said to be as long as a hundred horses and covered in impenetrable scales made of mica. Looking directly at Unktehila would make a mortal go blind, then go mad, and then die a day later. Unktehila had two weaknesses: its crystalline heart, located behind the seventh in a row of spots running down from its head, and lightning, the weapon of its eternal enemies.
• *Kiwakwe (Abenaki)* - One of the many various cannibalistic giants found in various mythologies around the Great Lakes, like the Wendigo and the Stonecoat. Originally human, a kiwakwe is born when someone commits a truly heinous and unforgivable act, such as cannibalism or withholding food from a starving person. Their callousness turns their heart to ice and transforms them into a man-eating sorcerer. A kiwakwe is so maddeningly ravenous that it will eat its own lips, leaving only bloody shreds around its exposed teeth.
• *Kokyangwuhti (Hopi)* - "Spider woman/spider grandmother," the creator goddess of Hopi mythology. Although she's typically depicted as extremely kind and powerful, she will often hold off on directly solving problems. Instead, in a few stories, she accompanies the hero on his quest in the form of a tiny spider who hides in his ear, offering him advice on how to solve problems peacefully while bewildering and humiliating his enemies.
• *Virabhadra (Hindu)* - A wrathful aspect of Shiva, created in his rage and grief following the death of Sati. Virabhadra is described as "a being like the fire of fate…a mighty male and lord, destroyer of the universe," with a thousand heads and a thousand weapons. Fire streams from his hair, his tongue is lightning, and four tusks protrude from his mouth. After Shiva tasks him with despoiling the sacrifice of Daksha, Virabhadra spews an army of demigods from the pores of his skin, and his rampage shakes mountains and darkens the sun.
• *Hunahpu & Xbalanque (K'iche' Maya)* - The heroic twins of Maya mythology. Their adventures comprise the oldest Maya story to have been preserved in its entirety, as told in the Popol Vuh. Throughout their story, the twins use their skill and cunning to slay arrogant gods, like the tyrant Seven Macaw and his sons, before braving the challenges presented by the gods of the underworld and defeating them in a ritualistic ballgame.
Considering that Shiva is one of my favorite SMT characters as well as religious figures, I would like to see his aspect as Bhairava (perhaps his most fierce manifestation) portrayed in SMT, especially since Parvati's aspect as Kali has already been portrayed. It would also be interesting to see a series return of the Ardhanarishvara, which is Shiva and Parvati united as a single being. A lot of Hindu deities are even more interesting in their Tantric portrayals and I'd like to see SMT delve into that.
Another demon I'd like to see in SMT is the titular character from Mikhail Lermontov's poem The Demon. The demon in this poem falls in love with a human woman and manipulates himself into her life, only for his kiss to be poisonous to his beloved, killing her. There has already been a precedent set for including literary characters such as Hanns Heinz Ewers' Alraune or Nyarlathotep from Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, so a character from poetry shouldn't be a stretch for SMT.
They probably wanted to add Ardha in V, but given Shiva is the superboss, there's no point fusing him for a better demon
Great video.
I still waiting for SMT have a Brazilian demom, to be more specific, I want the Curupira, he's describe as a man who's responsible to protect the florest and the animal.
He has a fiery hair, always carrying a spear, sometimes he's riding on a boar and the most noticeable characteristic about this creature is he's feet, they are turned to the opposite side.
This last feature is what make this folklore creature so special, if anyone who is hunting him will probably follow he's footprints, but because of he's feet if the Curupira is heading to the north the hunter will think he goes to the south, making him to go to the wrong direction, and I think this is pretty genius.
To be honest I don't know what kinda role he can have on SMT and Persona, but I still think he can be the perfect candidate to be the first Brazilian demom.
Also if is any wrong or bad grammar let me know.
I always say Gilles de Rais! Georges Bataille wrote an excellent book on him. There is some say that he was the inspiration for Bluebeard as well
The fact the Baba Yaga has not been in SMT game really surprises me. They've dipped into Slavic lore a few times, and I feel like the old witch is like the biggest most well known entity in Slavic folklore. They know about her FOR SURE, but maybe just waiting for the right character or time?
This is easily one of my favourite topics regarding SMT. Here are some of my picks so far, all of them being of Japanese origin.
1. Dokuganryu
As the name suggests (literally meaning One-eyed Dragon), this would be the personification of Masamune Date, the most powerful warlord of the north during Japan's warring states period. Masamune is an iconic samurai in his own right, who managed to go from a depressed child with smallpocks in his right eye, to a stalwart leader who weathered the storms of war and ensured his clan's survival long after the Sengoku period had ended. His enemies would fear him as the One-eyed Dragon, and he managed to avenge his father's death by annihilating the Hatakeyama clan.
His portrayal in SMT would be of a samurai whose features are obscured in darkness, with one glowing red eye glaring at his enemies, and his iconic crescent-moon shining brightly on his kabuto helmet. He would emit the frightening aura of a dragon with every attack, and he would have an affinity for physical attacks, with Zio being his magic trait. His unique skill would be Wrath of Oshuu, a physical-based electric attack that ignores resistance and targets all foes. A river of blood and floating samurai corpses washes over his enemies (reminiscent of his slaughtering of the Hatakeyama), with Dokuganryu and ghosts of his allies all charging through the river on horseback, before transforming into the apparition of a blue dragon that then crashes down onto the enemies like a lightning bolt.
2. Fujin & Raijin
I'm honestly surprised these two haven't already made an appearance in the series, given how iconic they are. In Shinto religion, Fujin and Raijin are the god of Wind and Lightning respectively, and sons of Izanami after she'd died and entered Yomi. When Izanagi ran from her and returned from Yomi, Izanami sent many demons and deities to capture him and bring him back. Izanagi had closed the entrance to Yomi with a boulder, but some of his pursuers managed to slip through the cracks, including Fujin and his brother Raijin.
Fujin carries a bag of winds over his shoulders, while his brother Raijin floats on a cloud and causes lightning to strike by beating his rotating den-den daiko drums.
In-game, they could be a duo bossfight, each weak to the other's affinity, and their unique skills would have them using their respective weapons.
3. Suijin
In Shinto religion, Suijin is the Benevolent God of Water. Not much is known about him, but fishermen would often pray to him, and it is said he would grant them his protection as they fished across the sea. His dominion over water includes waterfalls and rivers, and Japanese merfolk (kappa and water dragons included) are often considered to be associated with Suijin.
Given how mysterious yet prominent Tsukiyomi is in Japanese fiction, I think it would be interesting to see what Atlus could do with another mysterious Shinto god such as Suijin. Aside from water being my favourite element, I think Suijin, whilst keeping faithful to his known description, could provide for an interesting character in the story, and possibly a Neutral representative whose priority is the safety of his countrymen, only aiding the protagonist if they share his goal.
As a water deity, he would naturally have an affinity for Bufu magic, and favour magic above physical strength. Appearance-wise, he'd wear white and blue robes evocative of his time, and have long, black hair that occasionally glows blue and flows as if underwater. He would take a human appearance, but in place of legs, have a long, scaly tail akin to a divine serpant. His unique skill would be a powerful ice magic that targets a single enemy, and heals the entire party based on the amount of damage dealt.
I have a suggestion: Roko’s Basilisk. A demon made by humans in their hubris. An AI so powerful and with a strict moral code to punish evil. However, it considers the very act of preventing its coming about evil. Thus, it creates recreations of all such people (clones?) and tortures them for eternity.
I'd love to see SMT's takes on Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, Krampus, and Shub-Niggurath, and I'd also want to see Cthulhu, Nyarly, Old One, and Gashadokuro return.
I hope they add Bigfoot, becuase they can add mothman, they should add the most famous cyprtic. It would be also cool to see slenderman as a demon as well.
Cryptids and more general urban legend stuff could be awesome. They added chemtrail so there's always hope!
The one I'd like to see the most is Herschel of Ostropol. He's a famous trickster of Ashkenazi folklore, whose stories mostly follow the formula of rich people are mean to Herschel and/or the Jews -> Herschel humiliates the rich people in thematically appropriate ways. In terms of design, I might be biased, but the story I was told the most of regarding Herschel was the hungry clothes (Herschel isn't allowed into a feast because he's wearing rags, he buys some new clothes, and when he's immediately let in because of his luxurious clothes, he stuffs all the food In his pockets and leaves) so I imagine a tiny old man's head wearing a suit jacket and dress pants, but instead of a body there's a giant gaping mouth...or something like that.
Another one I'd like to see is Karna from the Mahabharata, the illegitimate eldest son of Kunti, the mother of the Pandavas, and the sun god Surya. In terms of design, there's ample fodder. Karna was born with a special set of earrings and armor, he has solar connections, and he died because his chariot broke due to a curse laid upon him.
I wish there are more Dragon demons and lore. Would Samson be the first simp?
As russian i would also love to see in SMT Koschei the Immortal, who is slavic lord of darkness type character, could be great Tyrant race demon in series
For the last possible "demon" discussed it sounds like he could make a great npc/alignment rep. I imagine a man cursed to walk the earth for thousands of years against his will would be happy to help cause the end of it by bringing on demons or aiding to kill God just so he could finally die.
Ok, so here is my list, with brazilian mythological creatures:
Boitatá: Boitatá is a fire snake that protects the fields from the men who promote arson. In legend, the boitatá can also transform itself into a burning log to kill the men who promote it.
Capelobo: It can emit frightening sounds (loud screams), this monster feeds on dogs and cats, especially those that have just been born. It also attacks hunters, killing them and drinking their victims' blood.
Encouraçado: It is an invincible vampire, it feeds on any type of person, elderly, adult, teenager or child. He can also hypnotize his victims.
Anhangá: In Brazilian myths, the Anhangá was a powerful spirit that protected the forests, rivers and wild animals. It usually appeared as a huge deer, white in color.
Jaci: Jaci, in Tupi-Guarani mythology is the goddess of the Moon, the protector of plants, lovers and reproduction. She was raised by Tupã and is the sister of Guaraci.
Guaraci: Guaraci, Quaraci, Coaraci or Coraci in Tupi-Guarani mythology is the representation of the Sun, sometimes understood as the one who gives life and creator of all living beings, just as the Sun is important in biologic processes.
Tupã: He was created by Nhanderuvuçú, and is responsible for controlling the weather, climate and winds.
Iara: In legends, Iara is portrayed as a beautiful woman, who attracted men with her beauty and voice. She is also the water goddess.
And there's a lot more of creatures, but it would take a eternity to list them here and translate everything to English.
Gilles de Rais has those Caster Eyes!
Whoa, I just noticed this video uses the OST from Spectrobes: Origins. Never thought there would be another person who played it.
Thanks tony4you. Your segment on Gille inspired me to use him as my topic for discussing serial killers for my class. Thanks a ton.
Hey that's awesome! I hope it goes well. Always crazy to see educators watching my videos
In Buddhist religion, Angulimala (Pali for "finger necklace") was a cruel brigand who murdered people and chopped off one of their fingers as part of an assignment by his teacher to collect one thousand fingers to finish his studies, which was actually set up by jealous pupils that wanted to get rid of him, unbeknownst to him. On his would-be 1000th kill, he came close to killing his mother, but changed his mind and went after Gautama Buddha (aka Sakya from P2), who was passing by instead. Despite the Buddha simply strolling, no matter how rapidly he pursued Sakya, he was unable to catch up with his target until he eventually tires out (The Buddha used his powers to expands the earth on which they stand to keep Angulimala at a distance, so Angulimala was basically running in places).
This bewilders Angulimala so much that he calls to the Buddha to stop. The Buddha then says that he himself has already stopped, and that it is Angulimala who should stop. Angulimala asks for further explanation, after which the Buddha says that a good monk should control his desires (The Buddha has long since been freed from materialistic desire, while Angulimala is still hunting people so that he could graduate from his studies). Angulimala, impressed by the Buddha's courage and struck with guilt about what he has done, declares himself converted after listening to Buddha's teachings and vows to cease his life as a brigand and joins the Buddhist monastic order.
As a monk, he is seen as a "patron saint" of childbirth after helping a woman in difficult labor give birth with his Sacca-kiriya (solemn declaration of truth), changing from a murderer to a person seen to ensure safe childbirth. This transformation helps him to find peace, even when old karma came around in the form of a resentful attacking him for taking away their loved ones, which he endure with equanimity, knowing that it is inevitable and not even Buddha can stop it from occuring. Angulimala is an example of a person who, after having done much evil, still has a possibility to change for the better that is rare to find nowadays in the world.
We need the Loch Ness Monster, but its just a mass of logs and seaweed in a vague Nessie shape, and its whole deal is about modern folklore
I'm surprised that Baba Yaga, a witch formed by 12 women fused by the devil himself, was disturbed by a random wooden doll doing chores
Glad I'm not the only one to hopefully see Samson!
I'm surprised Bigfoot and Yeti haven't appeared in SMT; the former could use fire skills while the latter uses ice skills, to mirror each other. Personality-wise, Bigfoot could just be chilling as a recluse in a secluded area (maybe he can be found hidden in a Fairy Village), while Yeti would be the more hostile one. Then again, I guess Wendigo is kind of already a Yeti.
That shoemaker dude at the end would make a really dope law-aligned npc in the next SMT game. Like, maybe a mentor figure of some sort who's revealed to be some ancient ass man who's wandered the earth searching for the savior, and he finally found him in the protagonist.
Since Arsene Lupin is a Persona, a lot of old pulp heroes are game to be SMT demons. I'd love to see Sherlock Holmes, the Scarlet Pimpernel, the Shadow, the Nyctalope, Captain Nemo, Rober the Conqueror, and Cyrano de Bergerac.
I'm surprised none of the Musketeers are demons. I also wish Gilgamesh made an appearance outside the demikids games.
Aw,i wish we could see Slavic mythology and folklore in SMT,like,Raróg wich is basically a Flame Falcon,Dazhbog,who is basically Slavic Helios,or Niya wich is a god of Death
If it were up to me, I would add Santa Muerta, the Mexican grim reaper, to SMT. I would also add aesir, vanir and jotunn as their own demons like how titan and asura are their own demons while they represent groups of gods. I would also add kishi, which is a demon in Angolan folklore.
I’d really like some arthurian lore based demons, like King Arthur, Merlin, Morgan Le Fay or Viviane/Nimuë. I mean we have Senata and Scathach from Celtic lore, so why not Medieval English Lore? Arthur would also make one badass demon ngl
EDIT: Turns out Viviane already has a demon. Oh well. Would like her to make a comeback though
As an Australian, I’d love to see more Demons representing my culture which we have a little already.
A Ned Kelly one would be cool.
Doctor Omega from the 1906 H.G Wells-inspired French novel by Arnould Galopin would make for a neat Demon/Shadow/Persona. The book’s about a guy named Denis Borel going on an adventure to Mars with his mysterious inventor neighbour known only as Doctor Omega in a travelling machine he invented and encountering reptilian creatures along the way.
If that sounds familiar to you, then you probably have through Doctor Who. A BBC TV series that began in 1963 featuring a similar premise and the First Doctor played by William Hartnell is eerily like Doctor Omega down to his physical appearance in the illustrations.
When the novel was rediscovered in 2003 by a Whovian historian, debates have sprung up on wether or not the novel had any actual influence in the creation of Doctor Who including bits from the book that would appear in the show itself beyond the unlikely coincidence of the whole thing due to the book’s relative obscurity. Additionally, the book itself wasn’t exported outside of France in translated form until 2003 on Doctor Who’s 40th Anniversary.
Seeing as it predated the TV by five and a half decades along with the fact it existed before the copyright extension, Doctor Omega is in the public domain and thus Atlus could use him if they want to have their equivalent to the BBC’s The Doctor in their games without outright infringing on their property as long as they don’t lean too much on the BBC created elements akin to the Lupin III legal situation a few decades ago.
Plus, the visual of a character summoning a mythological/literary figure with a resemblance to William Hartnell is too rich to pass up on.
i would like to see more african spirits like the shetani or inkanyamba. or grootslong, which was deemed too powerful by the gods and split in half into the snake and elephant
1.Samson as a law exclusive boss that double crosses to law faction in the game. On chaos he would auto-join late game. A demon of either the fallen or tyrant race and has a special fusion of Melchizek x Aroich x Abanddon and specialize in physical skills
Baba Yaga an early game demon that specializes in aliments of the femme,vile, or fairy race
Gillie a famed or tyrant demon that involves a special fusion of Jean D'arc x Master Therion x Moh Shu x Valor. Learns powerful dark and alimighty skills.
That baba yagga story Is really cool. The fact baba yagga was deeply disturbed, and that the light the step mother requested killed said step mother, makes it very interesting.
As a another brazilian I really wish we had more representation like the return of Caipora (also know as Kibra), the Headless Mule just like others said but i want to go a bit beyond that:
Pombero, also know as El Pombeiro, Pyragué (Hairy Foot), Karaí pyhare (Lord of the night) and Kuarahy Jára (Owner of the sun) is a Guarani mythological creature know in Paraguay, southern Brazil, and the northern Argentinean coast, is responsible for making sure that the fauna and flora are not threatened, that trees are not cut down, and that only animals that will serve as food for the families are sacrificed. It is common for communities to ask Pombero to take care of the crops and to protect the animals. In exchange, they offer him tobacco and honey. But this doesn't happen voluntarily. If a family forgets, he wreaks havoc in their home and is capable of leaving his victim voiceless, could take the Judgment Arcana or have a side quest to him specifically in any SMT game.
Teju Jagua, the first of the seven legendary monsters*, is the god of caves, grottos, and lakes. He crawls like a lizard and eats fruit and honey. He is described as a giant lizard, with seven dog heads (or one wolf head). He has embedded in the top of his head a carbuncle stone. Its main ability is to shoot flames from its eyes. Not sure which arcana but could be treat as a Boss monster like Hydra was.
Boca de Ouro is a mysterious being who, under the Bohemian garb, hides a mixture of zombie, ghost, and demon. It is a haunting whose first appearances date back to the early 20th century, he approaches lonely walkers wandering the deserted streets and always asks these unsuspecting people for fire. Whether or not he has a match (or lighter) to offer, the victim is startled when he realizes that the mysterious bohemian has the rotting face of a rotting corpse and exudes a strong smell of sulfur. Either Death or Devil arcana, could be a normal enemy in SMT.
Iemanjá or Yemanjá is African goddes, mother of fish, deity of fertility, maternity, and of river waters. Protectress of children and the elderly. Patroness of fishermen, that gained a strong influence in Brazilian popular culture become the most popular Orisha - due to the african slaves that were brought in Brazil, also know as Dona Janaina, the main mythological accounts of Yemanjá unfold with the primordial orixás of the Yoruba creation of the world. In the second half of the 20th century a consensus emerged among authors that Yemanja is the daughter of the sovereign deity of the seas and oceans Olocum (the latter a female deity in Ifé and male in Benin), and this link is celebrated in the city of Ifé, considered the cradle of Yoruba civilization. Also know in Cuba.
Urumina or Uruminas (plural) are fairies with very dark eyes without pupils that would have come from Japan to the Brazilian Amazon in a rainy period by pure chance, it is said that the first of them has the name of Udoka, it would be a kind of supreme mother of them all, the name of all always begins with the vowel U, in General doesn't have much information about these fairies, but it is said that they can fulfill a wish if the person does something good for nature, such as planting a tree, throwing garbage in the right place, and other things like that.
* The seven legenday monsters are actually the seven children of Kerana (daughter of Maragatu and Tau (presonification spirit of evil), they had seven children, who were cursed by the great goddess Araci, and all but one were born as horrible monsters each one rulling over certain elements or , I'd love go over more of this but it would turn this coment into a essay.
caralho eu nem sabia que tinha tanta coisa assim no folclore ALQJEOFBWHRK mas eu curti o teju jagua, acho que o boitata seria legal também
@@burimuso o povo só ensina o básico, cuca, saci, loira do banheiro, etc. Mas tipo toda a mitologia tupi-guarani é braba, claro um pouco misturada por causa das diferentes tribos, mas deu pra escrever um livro tipo aquele que conta as origens dos deuses gregos.
Though we do have Juno (I don't like demons being stuck in Persona Pergetory) I want to see Hera in the games, since Greek mythology is like if the Abrahamic religion had the Goetia demons, but that's it.
I would really like to see Leraje from the Ars Goetia. Who’s described as being a marquis and holds 30 legions of demons. He’s known for wearing green and depicted as being an archer. Being opposed by the angel Michael, Leraje would pose as a pretty good agent of chaos in SMT.
I also think Sif, being a goddess of fertility and of the hearth would be a great add on as well. Being known for her luscious lochs of golden hair, I feel like she would make a great appearance in a future persona game under the empress arcana.
Only recently did SMT5 have a Baltic mythological demon called 'Aitvaras', which I would like to see more Estonian, Lithuanian, Finnish, Siberian, etc. Mythological demons in SMT, some of them like Ukko, Ilmatar and so on, are Greek-like Gods, though more so presentations of aspects of things like thunder, harvest or the wind.
Ilmatar is the Goddess of the Wind, and also birthed the world alongside with her child. The world came to be, as a great goose, eagle, etc. Asked to lay their eggs upon her body, which burned in her skin and accepted. The eggs eventually fell or hatched, and with it's cracks, came the sea, the land, the stars, natural forces like iron, fire, etc.
Though besides gods, there are various persons mentioned in old poems of Kalevala. Some close to being demi-gods or old 'heroes' of sorts. This is also not to mention of nature spirits or 'gnomes', representing things like your land, house, water, etc. Though one common spirit-like being around those regions, is of a 'family guardian' of sorts, or the dead spirit of your relative or the one that resided in the house. In some Siberian tribes, they constructed and worshipped representation of those spirits, as dolls made in their appearance. And in-general, dead were greatly mourned for and was a ritual in itself.
There's also animal-like mythological creatures, though bears were in-general greatly worshipped within those areas and around Ainu as well. There were rituals and so on when hunting them, sometimes frequently with a spear even.
Also the 'iron eagle/hawk' in Finnish mythology, suppose to be a giant bird of made iron and fire as well. With it's back, it carries 1000 soldiers, made of steel/iron as well.
Not to mention 'Swan of Tuonela', which is a sort of a guardian for the river of the dead, which if touched or harmed, the person would have their body entirely torn apart.
I really like the way you explain these. It would be interesting to see what they would be interpreted to look like in SMT as well. Thank you for the video!
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it! Hope you enjoy the next videos
I'd like to see the main characters from Edmund Spencer's The Faerie Queene, and African characters like Anansi, Oshun, Sundiata, Mwindo and Shango. They could look into the cosmology of the Dogon people and use it in a game.
Some demons I'd like to see in SMT
The Green Knight, The Otherworldy Fey like knight that had his head sliced off by Gawaiin only to not die and vowed to do the same to Gawaiin
King Arthur: I know we have the Ligit Pendragon in SMT But having a Genma Demon based on King Arthur would be cool, though I doubt we shall see him because we got both Pendragon and Fion mc cumhill both heavily inspired by Arthurian legends
Changeling: Similar to a Succubus but takes the form of whatever you most desire in a person, I can see this demon being very creative and having all kinds of Parts to em
Hachishakusama: Considering the Popularity of Lady D in Resident Evil 8 plus its a Good demon to Represent Modern Demons being made from Urban Legends
Count Dracula: Cmon Lets have the Big Daddy Vampire in a SMT Game it be hilarious
Typhon: The Greek Equvilant to Godzilla
Balarama: We got Krishna why not his Brother from another mother, could also be a Alternative Avatar of Seisha/Vatsuki
Freya: We got alot of intresting Norse Gods and some that were realtivily unknown, why not have the Norse Goddess everyone wont Shut up about and the one every Giant wants to bone lol
Mamon: The Demon Prince of Greed, could be cool to see him as a Merchant in a SMT game
fionn is from the ulster cycle not king arthur
@@Chidon0 I do get my stuff mixed up every now and then @n@
I think Mammon is already in, I might be wrong
Wtf giants want do it with Freya?
(Who is also in the franchise already)
I love these ideas! Hmm if I was to suggest one, going off SMTV being willing to do different types of werewolves and the Skin Walker idea how about the Livonian werewolf, otherwise known as the Hounds of God? According to Thiess of Kaltenbrun, they transformed on three nights a year, and then traveled down to Hell. Once there, they fought with the Devil and his witches in order to rescue the grain and livestock which the witches had stolen from the Earth. I think they would be a awesome addition to ranks of Law.
More Law is always something I can get behind!
Cu Chulainn's warp spasm form should be in a future game. Its like the Hulk on steroids.
The only thing I want is see is santa muerte as a fiend.
Any Brazilian folklore monster would fit like a glove; Boitata, Saci Pererê, Pink Dolphin, Cuca, etc.
For me, it would be:
Gideon
Deborah
Jean Valjean
Karamazov
Apollyon
Hadraniel
Sisiphus
Astraea
El Cid
Amadis of Gaula
and Jacob (Bible)
if im not mistaken most of gils killing was done as vengance for jeane daark
i want king of hell from chinese folk lore
because AFAIK they actually more than 1
Not really a single demon, but I would like to see the grigori (fallen angels from the book of Enoch) featured as a faction in one of the games. We’ve seen some of its members throughout the series like azazel and samyaza, as well as ramiel in DeSu but they’re thrown in with existing races and alignments.
One of the potential demons for the list was Kokabiel from that exact line of thinking so I agree totally
>first up is Samson
based. I named my cat Samson because he had longer hair than his sibblings. it proves to be a fitting name more and more everyday. love u sammy