I pre-ordered this and got it a few weeks ago when there was No info/Reviews on it yet. Thanks for this! hope it pairs well with my 3960X im plopping in to it. Everything is still unopened! Ram is the scary part...
How are the IOMMU Groupings after the latest BIOS and AGESA? Can you check and post to the forums? Just boot into a live CD or similar. Would be a HUGE help!
I just realized everytime I get asked to build a custom pc by a friend I arrive to your channel first to look for motherboard reviews lol that youtube algorythm tho
Planning on getting the Taichi version with Threadripper 3970x and 64GB memory, pair that with two 1TB NVMe cards using the built in M.2 slots, the supplied Hyper Quad M.2 card containing two 1TB NVMe cards and a separate ASRock Thunderbolt 3 AIC R2.0 PCI Express 3.0 x4 Card. GPU-wise I am waiting for the Big Navi to drop later this year, so running on Linux Mint x64 19.3 it should be an interesting build.
Love how you do motherboard reviews. A lot more function over VRM quality compared to buildzoid. I don't care too much about high end vrms if the board has a good amount of IO and still gets get clocks with no major flaws.
you might want to re-think that ! the quality of the vrm is what regulate's the power going to the different components poor vrm's means less stability
@@lanceshelley7061 Well I mean it in a sense where you don't need 16+ phases so overbuilt you don't even need passive cooling. The 8-phase is just fine for current TR 3000 cpus and has enough passive cooling on top of it.
Yo Wendell!!! Didn't tell us about dem IOMMU groups. + How about a comprehensive VFIO guide + linux containerization build guide possibly with qubes and manjaro.
Price is kinda weird indeed, it almost feels like a trap when you see all the options available, maybe they managed to low the cost that much because of their 8 phases VRM design, it will be interesting indeed to see how it will handle the upcoming 64 cores thread ripper! Happy new year to everyone and all their family, keep it up the great job in 2020
I hope someone will build a Hackintosh daul boot system with TRX40 motherboard that has the thunderbolt compatibility so we can see how silly the new Mac Pro really looks at the 6,000.00 8core/16thread entry fee. Plus I'm betting and hoping that the higher end binned chips for TRX40 will have noticeable gains in latency in Digital Audio Workstation environments for home studios.
Rocnroll 00 AMD caught Intel and Apple with their pants down. I’m sure Apple already know a 64 core Threadripper system is going to destroy a full spec Mac Pro at half the price. Looks like Apple are locking Mac down with the T2 chip. That fantastic chip that renders expensive high-end USB 2.0 audio interfaces unusable.
A supplemental PCIe power slot on the Asrock Creator trx40 motherboard is mentioned. Should I plug power into that when using two Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 supers? Is there no harm in utilizing it regardless? Thank you for your advice. Mentioned at 3:44
2nd this, I'm really looking forward to this, I have a 2950X with x399M but would love to see how the 64-core runs on this. My setup has been rock solid with 2 2080 Ti GPUs. Yeah.... let that sink for a second ;) x399M
Nick Shih got 1TB (8 128GB dimms) of ecc ram working on numerous ASRock x299/X motheboards. I'm sure TRX40 could do the same, maybe. ASRock is not only using DrMos but the DrMos phases are actually intersil's (RENESAS) new ISL99390 90A Smart Power Stages with 90A Magic chokes and Solid State Tantalum Capacitors. Going through intersil's new ISL69247 PWM pushing 720A total power and should be enough for the 64c 128t monster.
the story is more interesting than that -- intel later gimped registered ecc support on x299. It does not work on any current bios, or with 10 series cpus, because microcode. you can only run 7 or 8 series intel cpus with ancient bioses to get support for 128gb reg ecc dimms.
Have a 3960X on the MSI Creator board. Running 4 DIMM 32 GB DDR4 3733 CL17 with the FCLK synced, no issues so far. The onboard audio worked for me out of the box on Windows, Fedora 31, and Arch. TRX40 platform is crazy for sure, I have Windows on PCIe 4 NVMe RAID 0, and Arch on a single one of those drives right now. Went in planning to buy this board but decided that I liked the slot layout on the MSI board more. Kind of regret it; I hate MSI's UEFI but as far as functionality goes I can't complain.
Am I understanding correctly that there are 5 ports to plug case fans in? If so I'm maxing out the 10 120mm case fans my case allows and going dual fan with my cooler so will have 11 fans in total, this means I would need to get a fan hub? I also do not care about RGB. Any help would be appreciated.
Hello L1 team! Im using that board! Based on my task manager readout, my AE appears to be using all of my 128 GB of memory on my thread ripper build using this board. I'm using 4x 32 sticks which I read was the best memory config for TRX40 boards. Would I see smoother performance with AE if I upgrade to 256?
Of course he meant 8x32GB=256GB @ 2666MHz as this is the maximum amount of RAM. The 4x8GB is for maximum supported speed (3200MHz) as 4 sticks mean only 1 stick per channel is occupied and 8GB is the maximum capacity for single ranked memory (a 16GB stick is dual ranked).
On my Zenith II Extreme with 4 sticks of RAM I could get as high as 3000Mhz stable, with 8 sticks (256GB total) I am only able to reach 2933Mhz, and even that is if I make the timings loose as a goose. 2666Mhz is the most stable with 8 sticks -- for this reason if you go Threadripper + 8 sticks of RAM for quad channel I HIGHLY recommend getting ram with SUPER low latency to try and make up for the speed limitation.
@@JulianUccetta I'm currently running 2733 Mhz CL12 with 8 sticks of RAM with my 1950x. I would prefer to run them at 3200 Mhz CL14 to increase IF speed. Also the RAM is actually 3600 Mhz CL17 so it seems like quite a waste to be running them at 2733 Mhz. AMD needs to improve their memory latency and memory controller.
Hey buddy, quick question. How come when I set my 64gb kit 3600 16191932 memory and CPU settings to auto with a 3960x on a zenith II extreme my cinebench r20 score is over 14000 yet when I set docp it drops down to around 13250? The ram runs at 2133 with cas of 15151528 but bump it with docp to 3600 161919 and it drops a lot. I don't understand. All the other benchmarks like geekbench and userbench go up with docp but not r20.
Do we know that greater than 32-core chips will work on TRX40 boards? I have this weird feeling that more-than-32-core chips will be for TRX80/WRX80 only. Come to think of it, I haven't heard anything about the [TW]RX80 in a while. I've no idea if they're even real.
ich kann 10 grafikkarten schalten 2 per sli 8 mit Adapter gleichzeitig unterschiedlich anpassen oc durch hi Speed Übertragung oc lecherlich^^ mit dem board geht das bestimmt auch ^^
ASRock TRX40 Creator is the worse motherboard I had so far. I am using it with linux AMD cpu and 4 gpu. First it gave me a headache to work with linux. finally, it can never handle 4 gpus together. not sure why they have 4 pcies :| thanks for the review anyway
I love how Wendell says common sense stuff like the 64 core chip will prolly be 280W as well so ok. Other reviewers think double to power when that is stupid. Only intel makes 400W cpus :) Which are slower than the 32 core AMD has.
I hate fans on motherboard :/ they look sttupid and they wearout in time, lets say you will use it for 8 years there woun't be any fan replacement, withour fans...rads are so small that cipset overheats... so I prefere good case cooling. even after hundred years you will find 140mm fan replacement 😂✔
I'm very happy about Gigabyte X399 DESIGNARE mobo i purchased almost 2 years ago. It simply makes its job. Im only missing 10 Gbps NICs as new nwk infrastructure here allows internet bandwidth to oscillate around 1 Gbps in avarage so shortly (after I will change ISP plan and increase even ferder the speed) I might get "stuck"...
150euro bis 250 euro board mit duall cpus oder 4 mal cpus low buget ausgestatete boards ram boards ssd2x board die könne 500 ero bis 600 eweuro kosten aber ales drüber ist echt zu teuer die Technik die braucht man nicht wirklich die kriegt man auch biliger erzeugt 650euro sind das max für 4 cpu s board ram übertrieben boards dvi onboard ssdm2 onboard max Setup buget Systeme damit fickt man jedes System und bewegt sich auf supper Server zu nach und nach alles andere ist abzocke^^ für den markt was angeboten wird ^^ macht lieber bügelt Produktion undsowas für jeden ^^ als 2 3 fach preiße für den scheiß der schon 2009 ging
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You are TH-camr true hardcore. Real reviews, professional reviews . I like how you use the effects to highlight the headers. Keep up the good work!!
6:50 This will be memed for posterity. 🍌
This went longer than anticipated...
Thank you so much for doing a review on this board! This is the board that I've had my eyes one since it's release!
Might wanna wait for a buildzoid video. Asrock tend to cheap out on thier boards and have a crappy bios.
@@tomstech4390 Yeah I've seen his videos and I can tell you're talking out your ass.
Same here, good mobo at decent price.
I pre-ordered this and got it a few weeks ago when there was No info/Reviews on it yet. Thanks for this! hope it pairs well with my 3960X im plopping in to it. Everything is still unopened! Ram is the scary part...
How are the IOMMU Groupings after the latest BIOS and AGESA? Can you check and post to the forums? Just boot into a live CD or similar. Would be a HUGE help!
Another great thorough informative motherboard review by Level1Techs. Love it!
That timing with the banana in the background... A little weird, but hey it's Wendell. Respect LV1.
Wendell starts 2020 off with a TRX40 Creator review - pure gold! bruv :-)
I just realized everytime I get asked to build a custom pc by a friend I arrive to your channel first to look for motherboard reviews lol
that youtube algorythm tho
Wicked review! Im getting one next week! Waiting for all my parts to make my build, ill try and post to your forum when it is completed 🤟😎
LOVE your board reviews!!
I like the size of this board. They crammed a lot in on that.
Planning on getting the Taichi version with Threadripper 3970x and 64GB memory, pair that with two 1TB NVMe cards using the built in M.2 slots, the supplied Hyper Quad M.2 card containing two 1TB NVMe cards and a separate ASRock Thunderbolt 3 AIC R2.0 PCI Express 3.0 x4 Card. GPU-wise I am waiting for the Big Navi to drop later this year, so running on Linux Mint x64 19.3 it should be an interesting build.
HAHAHA "Sing me the song of your people!"
My next mb 2 years from now along with second hand 3960x for half the price (i hope :))
Love how you do motherboard reviews. A lot more function over VRM quality compared to buildzoid. I don't care too much about high end vrms if the board has a good amount of IO and still gets get clocks with no major flaws.
Buildzoid's target audience is overclockers. Wendell's target audience is pro-workstation crowd.
you might want to re-think that ! the quality of the vrm is what regulate's the power going to the different components poor vrm's means less stability
@@lanceshelley7061 Well I mean it in a sense where you don't need 16+ phases so overbuilt you don't even need passive cooling. The 8-phase is just fine for current TR 3000 cpus and has enough passive cooling on top of it.
Model M and banana for scale! Love it :)
Yo Wendell!!! Didn't tell us about dem IOMMU groups. + How about a comprehensive VFIO guide + linux containerization build guide possibly with qubes and manjaro.
Wendell's Ahegao face is epic and mesmerizing.
The box has a carry handle. Good enough for me!!!
Price is kinda weird indeed, it almost feels like a trap when you see all the options available, maybe they managed to low the cost that much because of their 8 phases VRM design, it will be interesting indeed to see how it will handle the upcoming 64 cores thread ripper!
Happy new year to everyone and all their family, keep it up the great job in 2020
Are there any TRX40 motherboards that you would recommend for a home server build for compatibility with a bare metal hypervisor?
I hope someone will build a Hackintosh daul boot system with TRX40 motherboard that has the thunderbolt compatibility so we can see how silly the new Mac Pro really looks at the 6,000.00 8core/16thread entry fee. Plus I'm betting and hoping that the higher end binned chips for TRX40 will have noticeable gains in latency in Digital Audio Workstation environments for home studios.
Rocnroll 00 AMD caught Intel and Apple with their pants down. I’m sure Apple already know a 64 core Threadripper system is going to destroy a full spec Mac Pro at half the price. Looks like Apple are locking Mac down with the T2 chip. That fantastic chip that renders expensive high-end USB 2.0 audio interfaces unusable.
@@oblitafier your absolutely right about that.....do you think that T2 chip can be bypassed or hacked?
@@rocnroll0065 Unlikely, but never say never.
ANy details on BIfurification for this board?
A supplemental PCIe power slot on the Asrock Creator trx40 motherboard is mentioned.
Should I plug power into that when using two Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 supers? Is there no harm in utilizing it regardless?
Thank you for your advice.
Mentioned at 3:44
Of course Wendell has an old school Model M.
"an?"
Lol
Arrrrrh the clickety clack of your pointy wointy board tickles my bishop. Happy new Year, Level1!
Great review! Are you going to revisit this now that the 64 core 3990x is out?
2nd this, I'm really looking forward to this, I have a 2950X with x399M but would love to see how the 64-core runs on this. My setup has been rock solid with 2 2080 Ti GPUs. Yeah.... let that sink for a second ;) x399M
If only I could buy this right now. I’d build a nice overpowered server for Minecraft
Nick Shih got 1TB (8 128GB dimms) of ecc ram working on numerous ASRock x299/X motheboards. I'm sure TRX40 could do the same, maybe.
ASRock is not only using DrMos but the DrMos phases are actually intersil's (RENESAS) new ISL99390 90A Smart Power Stages with 90A Magic chokes and Solid State Tantalum Capacitors. Going through intersil's new ISL69247 PWM pushing 720A total power and should be enough for the 64c 128t monster.
the story is more interesting than that -- intel later gimped registered ecc support on x299. It does not work on any current bios, or with 10 series cpus, because microcode. you can only run 7 or 8 series intel cpus with ancient bioses to get support for 128gb reg ecc dimms.
Have a 3960X on the MSI Creator board. Running 4 DIMM 32 GB DDR4 3733 CL17 with the FCLK synced, no issues so far. The onboard audio worked for me out of the box on Windows, Fedora 31, and Arch. TRX40 platform is crazy for sure, I have Windows on PCIe 4 NVMe RAID 0, and Arch on a single one of those drives right now. Went in planning to buy this board but decided that I liked the slot layout on the MSI board more. Kind of regret it; I hate MSI's UEFI but as far as functionality goes I can't complain.
And I miss onboard ps/2, gotta use the tried and true thicc purple ps/2 to usb adapter to run my model M
How are the IOMMU groupings? Can you paste them somewhere, perhaps the L1 forums?
Maybe a we bit over the top for Pfsense Firewall is it.
Audio on linux is an issue, in general.
Nice banana in the face shot. Epic
need update this review. with 64 cores and 256gb ram... maybe how many pcie nvme raids can be ran on it?
$460 is aggressively priced? I'm used to the idea of $100 motherboards.
$100 motherboard for ~$300 cpu. $500 motherboard for ~$1500 CPU. You can also connect over x3 more stuff, probably more dont quote me
Lol the bios flashback explanation got cut off
why cant i find any of these mobos? all TRx40 missing prices on pcpartpicker :(
Am I understanding correctly that there are 5 ports to plug case fans in? If so I'm maxing out the 10 120mm case fans my case allows and going dual fan with my cooler so will have 11 fans in total, this means I would need to get a fan hub? I also do not care about RGB. Any help would be appreciated.
Hello L1 team! Im using that board! Based on my task manager readout, my AE appears to be using all of my 128 GB of memory on my thread ripper build using this board. I'm using 4x 32 sticks which I read was the best memory config for TRX40 boards. Would I see smoother performance with AE if I upgrade to 256?
You mention the USB Audio problems are fixed up now... but it's clearly not fixed up in Linux 5.5 rc4. Where is it fixed up?
@7:14 does it support 256GB RAM at 2666Mhz or is it 128GB at 2666Mhz? 32x4=128 not 256.
Of course he meant 8x32GB=256GB @ 2666MHz as this is the maximum amount of RAM. The 4x8GB is for maximum supported speed (3200MHz) as 4 sticks mean only 1 stick per channel is occupied and 8GB is the maximum capacity for single ranked memory (a 16GB stick is dual ranked).
On my Zenith II Extreme with 4 sticks of RAM I could get as high as 3000Mhz stable, with 8 sticks (256GB total) I am only able to reach 2933Mhz, and even that is if I make the timings loose as a goose. 2666Mhz is the most stable with 8 sticks -- for this reason if you go Threadripper + 8 sticks of RAM for quad channel I HIGHLY recommend getting ram with SUPER low latency to try and make up for the speed limitation.
@@JulianUccetta I'm currently running 2733 Mhz CL12 with 8 sticks of RAM with my 1950x. I would prefer to run them at 3200 Mhz CL14 to increase IF speed. Also the RAM is actually 3600 Mhz CL17 so it seems like quite a waste to be running them at 2733 Mhz. AMD needs to improve their memory latency and memory controller.
Useful!
I just ordered this motherboard. PS2...lmao
Hey buddy, quick question. How come when I set my 64gb kit 3600 16191932 memory and CPU settings to auto with a 3960x on a zenith II extreme my cinebench r20 score is over 14000 yet when I set docp it drops down to around 13250? The ram runs at 2133 with cas of 15151528 but bump it with docp to 3600 161919 and it drops a lot. I don't understand. All the other benchmarks like geekbench and userbench go up with docp but not r20.
I can't buy and test, but what do you think about the new 3600 MHz CL14 from G.Skill, used on the 1920X? :P Running 3200 MHz CL14 now.
I’ve ordered this and the large Noctua tr4 cooler. Will that conflict with my gpu in the top slot?
Do we know that greater than 32-core chips will work on TRX40 boards? I have this weird feeling that more-than-32-core chips will be for TRX80/WRX80 only. Come to think of it, I haven't heard anything about the [TW]RX80 in a while. I've no idea if they're even real.
Does anyone know what the keyboard is closest to Wendell at the start of the vid?
no thunderbolt
Cool song :)
ich kann 10 grafikkarten schalten 2 per sli 8 mit Adapter gleichzeitig unterschiedlich anpassen oc durch hi Speed Übertragung oc lecherlich^^ mit dem board geht das bestimmt auch ^^
the video is quite dark...
How well does this board use 256gb with the 3990x
2667-3200 max if speed on mine. Depends on cpu and ram kit
Which massive CPU heatsink is that?
Maybe they can upgrade that to thunderbolt
Sing me the song of your people.
Oh
_ahem_ ... 256gb = 4 x 32gb? lol... Pretty sure that's 8 x 32gb. With 4 sticks it'd be 64 GB each.
ASRock TRX40 Creator is the worse motherboard I had so far. I am using it with linux AMD cpu and 4 gpu. First it gave me a headache to work with linux. finally, it can never handle 4 gpus together. not sure why they have 4 pcies :| thanks for the review anyway
I love how Wendell says common sense stuff like the 64 core chip will prolly be 280W as well so ok. Other reviewers think double to power when that is stupid. Only intel makes 400W cpus :) Which are slower than the 32 core AMD has.
I hate fans on motherboard :/ they look sttupid and they wearout in time, lets say you will use it for 8 years there woun't be any fan replacement, withour fans...rads are so small that cipset overheats... so I prefere good case cooling. even after hundred years you will find 140mm fan replacement 😂✔
Asrock ftw
MSI ftw
6:47 please make a loooong video out of that (kind of like an ASMR)
64 core plex server people could play games on my unlocked 1070s that are trans coding
Threadslacker!!! Lol
More Threadripper...
AMD FTW!!!
I'm very happy about Gigabyte X399 DESIGNARE mobo i purchased almost 2 years ago. It simply makes its job. Im only missing 10 Gbps NICs as new nwk infrastructure here allows internet bandwidth to oscillate around 1 Gbps in avarage so shortly (after I will change ISP plan and increase even ferder the speed) I might get "stuck"...
ich kann über Adapter neue tezteile beistecken ^^5 euro zeug ^^ 25 euro Adapter 16 PCIe ^^Übertragung 100 grad aushaltbar 25 meter Adapter ^^
auf PCIe 2.0 platfprm sind das nur 4 fps weniger als PCIe 3.0 4k gaming fast identische benchmarks wie auf board direckt ^^ Hauptsache teuer ^^
150euro bis 250 euro board mit duall cpus oder 4 mal cpus low buget ausgestatete boards ram boards ssd2x board die könne 500 ero bis 600 eweuro kosten aber ales drüber ist echt zu teuer die Technik die braucht man nicht wirklich die kriegt man auch biliger erzeugt 650euro sind das max für 4 cpu s board ram übertrieben boards dvi onboard ssdm2 onboard max Setup buget Systeme damit fickt man jedes System und bewegt sich auf supper Server zu nach und nach alles andere ist abzocke^^ für den markt was angeboten wird ^^ macht lieber bügelt Produktion undsowas für jeden ^^ als 2 3 fach preiße für den scheiß der schon 2009 ging