ASRock X570 Creator Review!
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Does anyone ever mention their appreciation of your highlighting the ports as you talk about them? Because I appreciate that. Even though I'm relatively comfortable with my knowledge of ports. The visual aspect is just... really nice!
I want to know how you do that ?
Anyone knows pls share
it is very nice!
@@tanmaypanadi1414 they probably mask out the area of the shot in the video editing software, and then do some brightness effects synced to the audio.
So refreshing to watch Level1 Tech content and also participate in the forums. It gets clearer each day how so many other "tech" tubers don't really have any tech skills - just promoter skills. L1 is the real deal!
I absolutely love product reviews from Wendell. He covers everything I want to know with just the right dose of endearing awkwardness. Keep up the good work!
Same. He’s like buildzood plus gamers nexus minus the aderall and more newbie friendly while also more enthusiast oriented. Quite a feat.
0:00 I have that shirt
9:50 magical shirt swap
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John Richardson I’m dead😂
To improve IOMMU grouping:
Set "Advanced\AMD CBS\NBIO Common Options\Enable AER Cap" to enabled.
Then leave "ACS Enable" set to auto.
Worked on my X570 Taichi...
+1. Please someone confirm that this works for them.
@@participationidol6841 Thanks for the update! That helps a lot. I am strongly looking at this board now, because it's the only one with TB3 and proper ECC support. Even though it is relatively expensive, and has some features that I don't need (like built-in WiFi).
Wendell you da bomb I honestly enjoy you're videos the most. No one even comes close
The DisplayPort at the rear is actually DisplayPort Input 1, not output from APU, it will feed DP signal to the first ThunderBolt 3 port (closest to the HDMI port), by looking at the manual, it could use not just AsRock graphic card but might be all cards that has a DP. The internal DisplayPort is DisplayPort Input 2 which feed signal to the second Thunderbolt 3 port (at the same column of the ethernet port)
I'll say it again. You gotta put this board in a comparison showdown with Gigabyte's z390 Designare.
That board has DP 8K60 passthrough, 12 monitor daisychain with dual TB3 and 8 more USB 3.1 Gen.2 ports.
Also can switch the 3rd PCI-e lane to run strait to the CPU to run 2 970pros in raid 0 with 7GB/s tranfer rates.
Love the chill music in the background 👍. Great job 😊
This motherboard is basically the best media creation motherboard out there 😍
Actually.. The display port on the io can also pass-through to the thunderbolt port.. So you can connect your graphics card display port out to the display port on the io. Not only the display port on the motherboard.
So did amd / asrock resolve your issues you mentioned and now 570 is a 10months old now if your going to use it for virtualisation / workstation what 570 would you recommend for 5950x ?
you never made that review video on the thunderbolt 3 on this board.
great point, I would really like to get that info
I agree I’m really thinking of buying this board in the next couple of days. 🤞
@2:25 According to the manual the DP IN there is for display through the first TB3 port, while the one that's only compatible with their own GPUs above the PCIe slots is the same for the second TB3 port.
So no fixes? Also do you have a video explaining thunderbolt 3 for Ryzen 3000 in general ? All the add in card stuff and what you need to do for various tiers of boards
the board would make a perfect hackintosh.
You are best indepth reviewer with relatively short videos
I remember the X370 Taichi had great IOMMU groups... what happened Asrock?!?
The comment on x4 slots is spot on. Why not a x16/0/0/[0], x8/x8/x0/[x0], x8/x4/x4/[x4] [chipset] arrangement. This applies even more to the TRX40 platform. 3 or 4 slots when 7 could be in place, with varying 16-8-4 distributions. We don't all demand 3 x16 graphics cards.
Level1Techs, 256K subscribers. Makes sense.
Love the Picard figure ... Top notch presentation as always
Thank you very much!
Goping to be checking the current IOMMU situation because that would be a dealbreaker unfortunately.
I want that board . I hate leds and all that blingy girly trash . But I want solid versatile , construction , with durability. I've been eyeballing that board since it was announced . Thanks .
@10:55 3 more BIOS releases, 6 months...is Linux support any better?
Love your delivery man, great work
bummer. was waiting for this for linux+hardware passthru... guess not
Best reviews always come from Wendell
no pinned comment, I guess asrock never fixed the passthrough stuff ? :/
No stupid plastic IO cover . I approve ! Possibly ASrock got the point as i shipped the stupid plastic cover from my x399 fatality back to them :D.
You’re awesome thank you for this one! Love the review.
We're all creators now
Did asrock ever fix the issues?
Glad I got my Asus Pro WS x570-Ace MB this asrock is lack of alot of features
I guess I gotta remember that light blue is faster than dark blue now...
So this is the only x570 option with Thunderbolt 3, that's reasonable. The Aqua is $999.00.
And the Aorus Master is a sham if I know one. Lol
My rationale for buying this is Thunderbolt 3. I'm building a workstation. I was going to buy the Master for 360.00 and a thunderbolt 3 card for 100.00 for a total of almost 500. So this Mobo is worth it in that regards.
Not exactly the only TB3 option. The Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming ITX also has TB3 built-in. Better yet though, many Asrock mobo's have TB3 headers allowing you to install an add-in TB card. Asrock has its own add-in cards but the best is offered by Gigabyte. The Gigabyte Titan Ridge AIC which is confirmed to work just fine with the x570 Taichi. If you do not need the 10/GB Lan or ECC memory, the AIC + Taichi can save you a fair buck without losing any significant options and features.
FYI, the Master does not have a TB header. So an AIC would not work. For now, Asrock is the only one that offers TB headers on some of their boards.
All of this can be confirmed on the Level1techs forums if you like!
Cheers!
@@Theorica ok, heres my beef with all these X570 reviews. They dont talk about Thunderbolt 3 much. They mention it once and never elaborate further.
On the Titan Ridge website it says the only boards that support thunderbolt 3 add on cards are the Master and Xtreme.
It says nothing about the Taichi. Also some Master Mobos have the Thunderbolt header and some dont. It Depends on whether is revision1.0 vs 1.1. I cant find the 1.1 rev anywhere...
The other options you mentioned with thunderbolt are itx boards. Not a full size ATX boards with normal amount of Pcie-slots and etc...
Thunderbolt is taboo in the gaming world and all these reviewers review Mobos with gamers in mind. Not content creators....
The single MOST important feature of the Creator board is thunderbolt 3.. It's the reason its priced so high and there's only one other full sized ATX board with thunderbolt. The xtreme.
This reviewer literally talked about it for a 1 second and never followed up with the 2nd video he said he would do.
@@Artkidtek Agreed. Mostly. I did state the one mobo as being ITX already so not sure why it's being pointed out.
A lot of the Asrock mobos have functioning TB headers and some have the ports ready to go on the backplate. The Gigabyte boards as far as I knew, only had functioning TB headers on the review boards and not the actual retail ones. For whatever reason, no "blessing from Intel". The reason why you won't see any of these Asrock boards on the supported lists is that Asrock doesn't have Intel's blessings either. So while technically TB is there on the mobo, Asrock cannot advertise that they support it. Hence other manufacturers can't put them on their lists.
Ya, it's very annoying, I agree. I was just offering more solutions for you without you losing out on too many features. As I said, it's all there in the forums to confirm that it works. Do what you will with the info though! Cheers!
Theorica I was out the main reasons why I would rather ATX over ITX. I’ll check out those forums. 😊
2 second fail... Wendell could have been 1337 bit came up just shy.
missed opportunity 🤷♂️
Sounds like a really nice motherboard! But what about the price? If this is sub $500 then this is a killer deal. I love no frills stuff so this is right up my alley!
Very nice review
After 1 year of using this motherboard:
1) The board layout concerning southbridge and top PCIE 4.0 16x slot is total failure. A two slot full length graphics card will kill the southbridge fan in a month. I have had two replacements until I finally bought a 100€ PCIE 4.0 riser cable and mounted my graphics card vertically away from the slots.
2) One of my considerations for this motherboard was the 10GB onboard NIC - replaced it with a Mellanox connect-X3 in three months. Asrock page did not list the latest drivers. have not checked after disabling the card (original drivers gave me issues).
In retrospect - this motherboard is overpriced and the features have not justified its price.
Also , Is It true that all the X1 pcie slots are ONLY Gen2? Seems so so low....
Any idea and when ASRock is releasing the X570 Taichi Ultimate mobo. ?
I went looking for the Thunderbolt review, I hope you get to post this soon as I have this board and want to set this up for my LG monitor with my RTX2080 card .. thanks
Thanks for mentioning the IOMMU issues. I'm looking for an AM4 with 10Gbps for an Unraid server. Looks like this, unfortunately, is going to be a pass. :/
BG Music is nice and chilled :-)
What are your thoughts on Asrock W480 or rtx40 dont see much or any reviews on them so dont know if their good or not
I don't see a pinned comment that the Linux support issues got fixed.
so... for making music and content and making videos ... this motherboard is a beast? with the amd ryzen 9 3900x 12 cores?
Is this board discontinued? Newegg hasn't had stock for over a week.
Good stuff well presented!
Holy sheet.... $AU899 for this motherboard here in Australia. :(
I have both my monitors and all my peripherals going into a docking station that can be connected into via a Thunderbolt3 connection.
If I use this motherboard, would I be able to plug my PC into my docking station with a thunderbolt 3 chord going from the motherboard IO thunderbolt port to the thunderbolt port on my docking station?
Do the more recent BIOS versions fix the Linux issues you mentioned?
(Not seeing the promised pinned comment.)
Yea
Do any of the integrated M.2 slots support PCIE 4.0 x4? Do they steal lanes from the primary X16 slot?
Good review.. personally, I like the motherboard.
I'm new to this. Why did you say not to use an APU with this motherboard?
how much work does the motherboard chipset have to do when visualizing/using SRIOV with split PCIE4 storage?
I'm planning on getting this, but only because it has thunderbolt, as I wanted to use it as a server and now you also said it's not great for hardware passthrough.
Anyone know anything about this now? It's a very expensive motherboard to just risk buying and trying.
I purchased this board because of this video but I noticed that my CPU has been running almost double the temp of my Asus board. I have a 3800x with a Corsair h100i rgb Platinum water cooler. I thought it was the thermal paste so I reapplied and still the same. I ran a stress test and immediately the temp shot up to 81 degrees celcius and climbed to 84 within 1 minute so I shut it down. Is this common with this board or are these temps safe?
Idle temps are 60-63
Regarding memory, if it has a good trace quality, doesn't the memory frequency depends on the Ryzen processor built-in controller? I'm running 3600 cl14 on a Asrock x470 taichi with a 3700x with no problem, i don't get why reviews show it as a feature from the motherboard.
what programming language are you learning this week?
love the videos
6700k or 7700k for gaming only!! Which one?
You mention ASROCK graphic cards with an internal displayport connection; this is same/like an eDP (embedded)? I can't find GPUs with either embedded or internal DisplayPorts. Would it be possible to route a DP1.4 cable from the DP Output port of a GPU, back into the case and simply use that included special cable, or a regular DP1.4 cable instead, and plug it into the Creator's internal DP port that is integrated with the TB3 native systemof the MoBo?
Wendell knows his audience.
On the m.2 slots have they upgraded the lower one's version to equal the top m.2' slot's this time around? Or are they different like ASRock's X4** mobo's were.
"Does it live up to the shirt stain?" ;)
Pretty good board then, real talk though. Where can i get that facepalming Pickar statue?
Were the iommu groups ever fixed? Im looking for an x570 proxmox server with on board 10gbe
Have you seen apple's shortcut app that has scripting possibilities for easy access functionality.
"Bios Flashback" is MSI branding.
Like it but out of budget, £500 in the UK, plus £320 for a 3700X. Then whatever the cost of the suitable memory. AMD isn't cheap anymore.
Has they fixed iommu issue?
thoughts on this vs new Asus ProArt x570 Creator?
i would go with the MSI X570 Prestige Creator instead of this thing way more usb ports and you get way more than what you get this motherboard
is there a settings guide for the x570 taichi? I can't seem to OC my gsync 3600 16.16.16.35 Royals to 3800 speed. Or get my infinity fabric above 1800. I know it's a voltage thing. But I also know not to follow just anybody on the internet. A good guide by the experts would be wonderful!
it's got a 3900x
Hi does it come with the ports cover? Thanks!
When dp 2.0 comes out, will thunderbolt 3 adapters allow 10bit 4k 144hz 4:4:4? Or does the port have to come out of the GPU
I dont see why they wont if you have downloaded the new Nvidia Creators drivers (not gaming drivers) and are usng a 10 bit compatable RTX gpu
I stayed, then hurt myself patting myself on the back.
I happen to own two of those "Fancy thunderbolt" only displays. can anyone say if this board will support both in dual monitor setup? thanks
what's a good case for this board ?
Thanks for your review. I bought this board because of the TB3, I wanted to run my eGPU for additional power for gpu rendering. But until today I didn’t got it run the eGPU. I can see my akitio node on TB port, but the eGPU (which runs on my yoga laptop) is not running or shown somehow....anyone solved this already?
I'm just watching to support the channel. But I'm really waiting for how to guides, linux stuff if possible
I bought the Ryzen 3800x because of the stock speeds, but it seems like it’s a hotter or tuned 3700x. My question is why does the 3800x exist?
To make people spend more money on basically the same chip. Or for people who never want to touch the BIOS.
Market segregation and to rob ppl who lack common sense
@@Safetytrousers I did buy it when the demand on the 3700x was pushing it up in price, but wendel did find that it's not suffering from core inconsistencies and bios issues. There seems to be something there besides just a gap in the price.
How to get Windows 7 up & running on this?
Three 4 pin cpu power connectors?
Wait wait wait.... Is this motherboard verified?
Why would you use an APU in a $500 motherboard? I noticed that most of the x570 MBs have display outputs that will most likely never get used
@@JuxZeil You do have a point there, TPM might be useful even in a light weight machine.
hi there, does this means we can actually boot up without any gpu installed?
@@JuxZeil thanks a lot. looking forward to build though...but looking at the price...
@@JuxZeil ya, agreed. Unfortunately, not every creator is generating revenue for themselves.
7:20 MSI has entered the chat.
Their low end movie have horrible VRMs that throttle hard when hit with a 3900z.
Since there are a plethora of TB3/2 devices out there declaring that TB3 works is specious.
Does your 4200MHz work better set to 4000MHz? It cannot get its needed 2100MHz MEMCLCK from a 3000-series at all. And 5000-series is not always there for 4000MHz RAM's needed 2000MHz MEMCLCK, much less your 4200MHz's needed 2100MHz, which drops to 1050MHz to be able to sync with FCLCK & UCLCK.neither of which reach beyond stated speed at the irlocked 1:1 ratio Memory Controller to Infinity Fabric or something like that ;-) Anything beyond Controller & Fabric runs RAM at half-speed.
Some motherboards barely reach a stable 3200MHz AMD-Guaranteed , which I would hope comes-up in reviews.
an aside that does not get explained well, not saying you have not, my not viewing all yours yet. ;-)
The bit about installing DIMMs in the slots furthest from the CPU, no matter how many channels, is those memory data lines, address lines, control lines, are all Transmission Lines which reflect the worst when unterminated, causing considerable confusion on any or all those busses. In early days, empty SIMM slots required a terminator SIMM with resistors to cap the end of every single Address, Data, & Control Line at every slot. I am a tad bit confused why that is no lo0nger true, when installing either furthest from the CPU guarantees proper termination, but what about the empty DIMM slots, maybe since those lines are disabled if no RAM is present in those slots? idunno a good tropic to cover eh
Can you do one on 1T vs. 2T in SPD settings for DDR4, plz? and the power-something with its partner gear-down?
Thanks
I guess asrock never got back to you :(
Aquantia is the name of the manager at my local McDonald’s, and the name of Aquantia’s gold Gucci pinky fingernail of death with built it NFC & 32gb of flash storage
Her fingernail is also named Aquantia, yes, and she coded an assistant into it so it responds when people say “hey aquantia” even if she doesn’t respond.
All of this is a lie except the girl with the name and the fingernail with the same name. Sorry
Must say Asus bios is the best
Are programmers creators or artists? Both? Neither?
540€
Good thing I am not looking for a x570 board right now.
unRAID board?
Is the Nvidia Titan V capable with this Motherboard?
Why wouldn't it be?
@@THO-BRO2000 😐
If it weren't for the shitty iommu groups, this would probably be the best am4 motherboard in the world.
We need validated 128GB kits (4x32) And Ryzen and x570 is supposed to support ECC so 128GB ECC is right up my alley.. Anyone validate anything like that yet?
@Serial Thrilla better to have a bag of tools than a bag of rocks.
Why do you crush my dreams? I'm now hopeless. I guess I'm gonna make a TH-cam video about it......
I'm curious how many people actually ragequit Wendell vids, I'm betting it's (MUCH) lower than the youtube average.