Episode 3: SHOWBIZ FEUDS - Milton Berle vs Saturday Night Live - 'SNL 1979'
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- Legendary Comedian Milton Berle was given an opportunity to host the hottest new show on Television - Saturday Night Live. Can they hold hands in comedic harmony or will egos turn the episode into an infamous hellscape?
Narrated, edited and produced by Ciaran. - บันเทิง
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Used to drive a limo service back in the 90’s. Picked up Mr. Berle to drive him to LAX. He was very frail and on his own. I did not feel good about dropping him off on his own. Long story short he had no one at this point in time looking out for him. Nice man, spent an hour with him and he was very kind.
That's really sweet that story. I think everyone has bad and good days and glad you had such a pleasant experience with a genuine pioneer
Uncle Milty had a few pieces of humble pie by then.
*You* were very kind, never forget that. It's nice he appreciated your kindness. By that point in his life, his karma had come due.
When Milton Berle was Mr. television in the early days, he controlled every aspect of his program. He was a control freak and a micromanager to the extreme. That’s what he tried to do on Saturday Night Live. And it didn’t work.
Whatever Berle's faults, I'll always give him props for appearing in Ratt's video for "Round and Round."
The" Thief of Bad Gags"! That's hilarious!
It still looks more watchable than anything from the past 25 years of the show.
Milton Berle was about 40 years old when he started on tv.
Don't hate me but I did laughed at Berle's comedy. That is just me. But Berle did give complements to the original SNL cast
No hate at all 🙂. He was funny, I love Berle and all the characters in entertainment in that era! His staying power was incredible. This channel is geared towards my love of the drama and characters - not hatred. Every entertainer and show has their place
This was a classic instance of the "old school' guy vs. the "hip new guys". Berle was tough to deal with at times but he also knew his stuff. I read that when Desi Arnaz hosted the show, those him new guys started telling him about camera angles, stage directions, etc. and he blew up at them. Not unreasonably either. He said "I invented these things you know!" So both Arnaz and Berle felt they should be given a certain amount of respect and deferment. Other than Belushi, Berle was not given that respect.
He hadn't really earned it, and he doesn't stand the test of time. I can't name one funny thing he's actually done.
I grew up during the late seventies. Even then Milton Berle was considered a relic of the past though he was a very famous person. Almost everybody knew his name but he didn't appear on a lot of shows. He did show up on the regular kind of game show circuit and Johnny Carson kind of interview shows. To be honest he was most known for the piano story.
Once people know about this video, it will go crazy. Well done. Magnificent !!
Berle sold millions of Televisions
He proved you cant say it's live comedy when it's rehearsed
Wonderful episode. Balancing everything.
I dig these greatly.
10:14 the original plan was to have 5 stand-up comics hosting the show in rotation, performing their own material, announcing the musical acts but not participating in skits
Well done, very in depth.
Johnny Roasted tf outta him. That was hilarious.
The fact that Milton Berle came on a "meticulously choreographed" late night show and did things his way, pushing the hard-@ss boundaries Lorne Michaels had constructed, makes _BERLE_ the edgy performer in this situation. _He's_ the one breaking the rules. People like Michaels talk a big anarchy game, but one actor goes rogue for one minute, he goes full on ape-sh💩t. remember into the Elvis Costello appearance in 1977? He started playing one song and abruptly changed to another. Lorne Michaels stormed backstage after the show, bawled him out see like a high school principal, then banned Elvis "for life". Don't look now, Lorne, but YOU are old school. I'm just glad somebody had their head screwed on right, John Belushi.
Great video! Best played at 1.25 speed!
Great vid. I thoroughly enjoyed it!
I was born in 1976 so obviously my generation of the 80's probably grew up seeing Milton Berle pop up here and there on sitcoms and movies, never cared for seeing his older material.
Yeah my friend only knows him from the Kenan and Ken movie!
Sid Caesar did the show too, I remember that episode.
So did Desi Arnaz in the first season.
This is the lightest story with a humongous backstory that didn't need to be told
Its so funny that belushi was blinded by love of his hero.
Ooooh, banned for life by Lorne Michaels. A guy who produces a show that hasn’t been funny in 25 years!!
The Berle Show dominated Tuesday nights, PRIME TIME, not late night, sometimes reaching a 97% share of the viewing audience. Theaters, restaurants, and other businesses closed for the hour his show was on. Television sales more than doubled because of his show.
When sponsor Texaco balked at Berle booking Black performers, Berle threatened to walk (his show was live). Berle won the showdown. He was dubbed ‘Mr. Television.’
So being banned by a lightweight like Lorne Michaels would be an honor!
And I write this as a non-Berle fan who never thought he was funny!!
Your comment makes no sense. It's not how great he was, it's about you were invited to host a show that isn't yours, and you think you have the right to take it over. Making suggestion is fine, but disregarding the show runners and cast is unforgivable. Except for Belushi, you can see how pissed off the cast was. Come in, do your job, end of story. Next time you go to work, do whatever you please and ignore the people in charge and see what happens. Watching you get fired would be as you say, an honor!
Yeah, but by that point he actually had to hire people to sit in the audience and cheer him, that's of course a bad sign. I think he probably felt the inevitable sense of humiliation that goes with no longer being in charge and of being supplanted by people who seem like kids to you. And say what you will about SNL, it's still on the air 50 years later and continues to launch the careers of many of the US's and Canada's best comedians. I generally cringe more than I laugh when I watch SNL these days, but it still brings in the ratings, and given the show's longevity, one could argue that Michaels has left a much larger cultural footprint than Berle ever could have dreamed of.
I remember watching this episode when it was first on, and feeling really uncomfortable, not knowing if it was real or scripted. Either way it was a hard watch.
That’s really cool to hear. What was it that made it uncomfortable? Did the whole episode just seem abit bizarre?
This video gave me a panic attack LOL! I'm sure that 90 minutes must have seemed like 9 days to the cast and Loren. It really was live!
I'd pay money to see an episode of SNL dual-hosted by Milton Berle and Steven Seagal.
I'm really going to have to watch the Seagal episode! what's so bad about it so I can prepare myself?
@WeirdShowbizHistory I don't think you can find the whole episode, just a few of the lowlights - pretty sure Lorne Michael's all but buried it. Seagall is widely considered to be the worst snl host ever, by far. Al Franken, Bob Odenkirk, and Rob Schneider have just a few of the funny accounts of that show:
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Great Video !
Cheers!
Out of control, unable to take direction and put himself in the hands of the SNL stars who would've made him look great. Instead, an ego maniac.
I'm from the American South and the even I never speak as slowly as the narrator is. It's like the vocal track for a horror channel.😊
Berle is one of those people that overstayed his welcome.
I watched the full show and it wasn’t really that bad.
They should have done established sketches and simply inserted him into them. Coneheads, Samurai Anything, Oh well. Today, SNL is Uncle Miltie
Personally, I never really appreciated Milton Berle in cinema or on television… On the other hand, when I saw him live, but the opening of the Fredericks of Hollywood Bra Museum, I found him to be one of the quickest, which I’ve ever seen, and proceeded to cast and direct him in a short-lived TV series for showtime… at one point when Milton was talking to George Burns, who was the MC, Burns was being helped of the stage by two playboy, playmates, and he made some blue remark about making sure the girls got tucked in correctly - - bro, turned and sit on the spur of the moment, “Right George- at your age that’s like shooting pool with a rope!“
I really love that line! That must've been incredible seeing those older performers in action
@@WeirdShowbizHistory it was! He could be really funny- just not on screen so much!
BTW: I did talk,to Lorne about him not long after..
Great idea for a channel!
I never thought he was funny.
9:39-9:46 - Actually, the original name of the show was NBC’s Saturday Night. In addition, Bill Murray wasn’t part of the original cast.
10:10 "then, Bill Murray." He didn't include Bill Murray with the original hires. He added, "then, Bill Murray."
Chevy Chase's first name is not pronounced like the car
Thank you for letting me know I’m planning to do one about him - that would’ve been awkward 😂
I've never cared for SNL or Berle, and I've heard from other celebs that he was incredibly unpleasant. I've also heard the same thing about Eddie Cantor and Lucille Ball. As for Ball, I've heard Richard Burton wrote in his diary that he disliked her so much, he would have killed her if he'd had to extend the brief time he worked with her. Great video, though.
It’s not that Lorne hates improv, it’s just that all the sketches and stuff are timed out and it throws the whole thing off and they have to scramble to allot for time.
louie the lilac on batman.
The frequent black screens are totally off putting. Shame, an interesting video otherwise
Milton Berle was a crass, mean, narcissist.
Bill Murray was not an original actor on Saturday night live. He was brought in after Chevy Chase left. I think he did try out for the original cast but he wasn't one of its selected members.😊
Excuse me. Don Rickles and Groucho never changed. They had Rickles hosting in '85 and he demolished the audience. He was goddamn hysterical and the cast were laughing on the side, as he dismantled the sketches where he made fun of Joe Piscopo and the rest of the cast.
Also, my personal opinion but I wish u spoke faster.
Yeah I agree with you after posting it. Didn't articulate my thought well. Yes maybe Groucho and Don's longevity was down to the fact their material and personalities were just so great they didn't have to change anything?? I love watching Don Rickles, a lot of his archive has been put on TH-cam.
And yes - I think my pacing is too slow, early days. I'll go faster in future vids.
The CH in Chevy Chase's first name is the same as the CH in Chase. "Shevy" is short for Chevrolet.
Everyone seems to miss the fact that the sketch with the big fat ass was written to make Milton look like a big fat ass. The old person's home sketch had him talking about "making" and gave Jane (if I remember right) the opportunity to stuff presumably vile baby food into his mouth while he had to sit there, on live television and take it. I'm pretty sure that, after working with him for a few days and having him treat them like his galley slaves, they got him back with these sketches.
That's a really good point! It'd be a pretty good way of getting back at someone.
@@WeirdShowbizHistory You could always tell how much the cast of SNL likes or dislikes a host by how they embrace the person in the closing. They stood back from Milton, while they likely hugged and chatted with Buck Henry. The Desi Arnaz closing was classic (and the sketches were amazing, too). Clearly, they had a good time with him. I think Belushi's embrace of Milton was his way of being sympathetic, respectful, defiant, sarcastic or any or all of the above.
Early shows were cutting edge then but now they don't hold up IMHO
Didn't him and RuPaul clash at the MTV Video Music Awards in either 1994 or 1995?
Yep it was 1993 actually according to legend things didn't go as rehearsed and RuPaul decided to adlib a few lines that caught Milton off guard.
Milton Berle wasn't the problem, the problem was hiring him to host in the first place, i mean what did they expect?
So true about Berle . He always had to jump into another performers spot . Many times it was damn annoying . Many years ago , our town had one of those in the round summer theaters. All the big stars performed there . My dad was a firefighter , and there were always a couple firefighters on a detail for fire watch , along with police officers for security and traffic . Berle did a performance once and my dad had the detail. He said he was the most arrogant miserable “person”. I want this post to stay up, so I won’t use his words 😂😂😂. He was never a fan of his , but after that , he wouldn’t watch anything he was in.
Thats fascinating to know! Seemed like a tough guy to get on with 😂, did your dad see any other performers who were great/not great
Snl crew were snobby. Should have embraced him or dont have him on
He would have been a better host during the Dick Ebersol years, it was a more lose and experimental then. Don Rickles did a lot of improv when he hosted.
Too soon?
SNL has become stale and it’s been around too long. Very similar to the complaint about Berle being around too long. Funny how things can turn out.😂
Lorne could've relaxed the standards of the show a little bit, instead of coming off so bratty.
He built his career off of stealing from black comedians he would watch in Harlem and take there material to the white shows downtown who never heard of said artist. Drake does this now. That's what those people do
were there any of those comedians who became big names who called him out or was it just known?
@WeirdShowbizHistory Many, Reddfoxx( when he was up and coming), it was well known that white artist of all types would come to Harlem and steal acts from black artist. He stole from mom maybley and more Bob hope Jerry Lewis and more
@@WeirdShowbizHistory yes actually many
SNL has often gone for cheap laughs, even with that first cast. And it should be mentioned that their comedy style owed a lot to Monty Python.
If you thought the SNL episode was bad watch the VMAs with him and Ru Paul. Cringe..
so ? his monologue was hilarious. I thought at the time wow, SNL has balls, rebelling against their audience that expects "edgy". I guess not.
I agree. If you're an edgy show you should sometimes try and catch your audience off guard. I imagine if I was in the crowd I'd have loved seeing an elder statesman of comedy do the kind of material that made him popular.
I saw this episode. Berle was awful. One of the worst SNL episodes ever.
SNL is easily among the most undeservedly overrated shows ever to exist. I've seen funnier Soviet era news bulletins (with the exception of a few performers such as the inimitable George Carlin).
screw oFF