Kaluka my friend, my buddy, my chum, my pal, my homeslice, my brother. I appreciate you finally sending that 33$ for gas, but 1. Why was it soaked in bromine 2. Why was it encased inside a urethra-shaped pickle 3. Why was the pickle in question sealed with several ancient Nevadean moon runes
13:48 I appreciate this dramatic recreation Good luck with the stair falling! I know deep in my heart that no one can fall nearly as violently from grace as Kaluka can
The way you're able to balance and smoothly transition between straightforward communication and off-the-wall humor deserves to be both applauded and studied.
I think another thing that’s important to grenade lack of skill is that they were probably even spammier in ‘07 tf2 Like bro if I was playing dustbowl or cramped 2fort for a significant figure of my playtest games, I’d remove nades ASAP 😭
Slopes and props have really weird interactions with explosions. Looking at these TFC maps, they have far less geometry than even TF2's 2fort and dustbowl. Grenade jumping would have been far less reliable if your nades rolled all around the ground like Demo's pipe bombs, and they couldn't be used as an actual grenade if they tuned down the roll (like iron bomber). I think the skill aspect just wouldn't have carried over. Like you said, maps (especially on launch) were also smaller than TFC.
13:20 technically the wrap assassin bauble is a grenade too. If it hits the ground it has an incredibly small aoe where it does like 4 damage. Although I suppose it is launched and not thrown so uh...
In short, if you curious why grenade was removed: imagine every class in tf2 have an additional slot for Loose Cannon with passive reloading and ability to deal a full damage without double donk
I think removing them completely was probably the best move, but I wonder if some classes could have benefited from a grenade of some kind. Maybe Pyro could have kept incendiary grenades, but would have to throw them like in Pre-Fortress. It'd give him a little bit of area denial and some asymmetrical attack options. I dunno could have been fun.
With the Jungle Inferno update adding in the Gas Passer, it's mechanics of "recharge item by waiting X seconds or do Y amount of damage" would have worked wonderfully for the grenades, mines and utility items in the Grenade item slot. If Grenades, Mines and Utility items were to be added into the game, put in a slot 7, the Grenade slot token and also give Slot 7 guns and melees for it. Gas Passer type mechanics, without the 60 second and 600 damage requirements for recharging would have been a great way to balance grenades.
With so much different stuff added, the game really needs to give (some?) classes new weapon slot. There is a lot of stuff stuck in balance limbo because of its design and the slot it uses, it either has to be overpowered or garbage, there is no in-between. A sandwich slot on Heavy is an obvious example which always should have been in the game, but never added likely because of the Spaghetti Code this game has. Gas Passer and Thermal Thruster on Pyro could had their own shared slot, insanely expanding not only gameplay options but also giving him more room to balance his stuff around having that. Same Pyro's example could be applied to nearly every class in the game, except the ones already heavily lacking options (looking at you, medic and spy)
I seriously love your vids. Your style of comedy is so unique and hilarious, your delivery is on point, and your points on game design are really well put together and communicated. I think you have some real potential outside of TF2 videos. Can't wait to see what you do in the future.
This is why when you make a tfc map you set the classes to have zero grenades at respawn and then use pick-ups around the map to control the grenade economy and how many grenades you even get. I feel that is more balanced. Could even make a map where nobody has frags.
Valve: "Turns out people are expecting more from this than they're gonna get, we better temper expectations, we don't want to get accused of misleading people." _quickly updates wording for clarity to "holiday sized update"* The community: 0:06
Keep up the good work Kaluka! You’re really bringing something special to TF2 TH-cam, and I can’t wait for you to blow up and get the recognition you deserve.
fun fact the mirv spell directly uses code from the beta mirv grenade mad milk and jarate dont really have any direct ties to the beta grenades, the gas passer might though dont quote me on that. the sandman could reasonably be said to be a reworking on a conc grenade its particles are in the conc folder afterall lol they tried bringing grenades back i believe it was mvm only though the mvm upgrade station has a scrapped message on it mentioning grenades, theres grenades featured on the upgrade station itself. and iirc the code lines up date wise. i personally believe these evolved into the canteens but thats just a theory of mine pf2's implementation is mostly correct the grenades had a dedicated pickup which was a bucket with grenades like in pf2 pf2 isnt using the actual texture which we have sorry if this is incoherent im like half awake typing out stuff i remember from my research
the third tip is genuinely comedy gold, how do you even come up with this stuff, does it just hit you in a mighty flash of unbridled genius or do you spend a millennia slaving away at the perfect joke?
technically the gas paser (especially the mvm one with explosive gas) and the fireball spell could be considered a spirituals successors to the napalm and the mad milk is basically a giant midle finger to pyro,heavys and demokights
hey, any tips on finding the midas pot? i've got quite a stock of bodies, but they're dehydrating and decomposing rapidly, and i don't want that lost weight to become more lost profits.
Anyone intrigued by what counted for "skill expression" in TFC should look for the TFC frag videos "Skillout" and "Last Dinosaur 2." Both classic, both an interesting time capsule of the state of Team Fortress before the sequel came out.
Give us a demolitions stockpile mode, with a map set in the Demo's home in the highlands. Everyone gets class specific grenades and increased base health due to experimental haggis injections or something and let everyone roam wild with reckless abandon spamming the level in explosions.
I think grenades could be worked into MVM in the action slot, choose between power up canteens, which gives you powerful effects anytime, anywhere or powerful AOE damage or utility in the grenade.
Great video, excellent side tangents. Good mix of cut humor and drawn out bits. One of the things I’d like to complain about is how at the first financial tip (which is working out excellent, the local newspaper is even recognizing me as a “mysterious” grave desecrator, whatever that means) you try to continue the point about grenade visibility that was 30 seconds ago. Imo this was really awkward pacing, both for the sake of the video and for my adhd riddled brain. I think it would’ve been better if you would’ve either cut out the addendum after the first tip, or restructured that part of the video so that the re-entry into the point wasn’t so awkward. I look like a total nerd pointing this out but I got crazy whiplash from how lost I was at this point. Besides that, great vid, looking forwards to your next post.
grenades could work in tf2 arena mode or mannpower, if they have the same trail as grenades from half life 2 and have an extremely loud bounce and also can't be cooked it would be used more for flushing out opponents out of a corner rather than outright damaging them grenades should also just not be able to be regained anywhere other than a resupply locker
Valve could add grenades into the game the same way they added jarate, mad milk and the gas passer. (Frag grenade) You can only throw one grenade. Does not explode on impact. The grenade has a 5 second fuse. Replenishes for 10 seconds. The blast radius is 15 meters or 49 feet. (just like in real life) Deals 100 damage if an enemy stands near or on top of the grenade. Deals 50 damage if an enemy stands in the blast radius.
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First person to mention this unsightly cut at 14:12 gets thrown into a neutron star
there is an unsightly cut at 14:12
there is an unsightly cut at 14:12
Y'ever smoked a neutron star cigarette?
Me when unsightly cut
My stupid ass just thought it was an intentional choice
i love how every joke has an animation to go with it, what an interesting creature
You cannot hide forever
i can only imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must be to both animate and edit them, huge respect for that
thanks for the investment tips im homeless now
Any time!
hi homeless now im dad
Kaluka my friend, my buddy, my chum, my pal, my homeslice, my brother. I appreciate you finally sending that 33$ for gas, but
1. Why was it soaked in bromine
2. Why was it encased inside a urethra-shaped pickle
3. Why was the pickle in question sealed with several ancient Nevadean moon runes
I have many questions
it is simply to avoid that devious telepathic hobo from replacing that 33 bucks with molten lead
@Aussie_Axe That explains alot. I scuffed the runes when opening my pickle, and the whole thing melted in an instant.
ANCIENT NEVADEAN MOON RUNES?! you boutta summon the auditor if you touch tha pickle
@@ratte6090 Okay then we MIGHT have a problem
i like your style of giving pretty good analysis while also being what an alien probably thinks tf2 videos are like
perfect description
i just watched the video in that context and you could not be more right
every other paragraph theres a oral flashbang
Looking at this tfc gameplay makes me realise how much better tf2 is in readability, the character seem to blend in so much here
I'm watching this tripping 16:45 scared the shit out of me
I'm dead sober and it creeped me out
I'm sober as fuck and I pissed myself a little.
What about 0:44
23:20 I love this joke so much, it's one of my favs I have ever heard. It is so well put together and the payoff is perfect.
‘Imagine if [scout] had 500 health’ so you mean the vaccinator?
oh shit you're right the vacc uber does grant the scout 500 effective health
16:45 this is genuinely terrifying, i was taking a shit and looked over at my phone
13:48 I appreciate this dramatic recreation
Good luck with the stair falling! I know deep in my heart that no one can fall nearly as violently from grace as Kaluka can
16:50 Holy shit a TF2 Tuber who actually calls it a Mag or Magazine!? Damn thats rare
In fairness, the game itself refers to it as a "clip".
@@Bubben246 Ya but technically it's a Magazine
Clips are use to load a magazine
Magazines are used to load a gun
Yeah, but TF2 reffering to increased ammo in mags as clips is why we have this problem in the first place
@@TaffyCheemsborgor998 tf2 does not take place in the same world as you or i
The way you're able to balance and smoothly transition between straightforward communication and off-the-wall humor deserves to be both applauded and studied.
I think another thing that’s important to grenade lack of skill is that they were probably even spammier in ‘07 tf2
Like bro if I was playing dustbowl or cramped 2fort for a significant figure of my playtest games, I’d remove nades ASAP 😭
tf2 classic gives demo the dynamite pack, it's painful
Slopes and props have really weird interactions with explosions. Looking at these TFC maps, they have far less geometry than even TF2's 2fort and dustbowl. Grenade jumping would have been far less reliable if your nades rolled all around the ground like Demo's pipe bombs, and they couldn't be used as an actual grenade if they tuned down the roll (like iron bomber).
I think the skill aspect just wouldn't have carried over. Like you said, maps (especially on launch) were also smaller than TFC.
11:04 The password is: Carolia Sweet Butter Sauce
this video is gonna go down as a classic
you could even say, a team fortress classic
this video is gonna go down as a hitman's heatmaker
@@askiiartpeak cinema
@@kalukagamingfellaguy why peek cinema when you can just watch it instead?
This entire video is just explaining why the scorch shot is a mistake
13:20 technically the wrap assassin bauble is a grenade too. If it hits the ground it has an incredibly small aoe where it does like 4 damage. Although I suppose it is launched and not thrown so uh...
nah that just means scout technically has a grenade launcher
it's a good thing grenades are gone, more spam is not something tf2 needs.
In short, if you curious why grenade was removed: imagine every class in tf2 have an additional slot for Loose Cannon with passive reloading and ability to deal a full damage without double donk
My dad was a grenade god in tfc. Hes got a 400gb external hard drive hes got full of insane grenade kills
damn thats crazy lets hope you got gaming in your genes
@the_fedy2 7 thousand glorious hours on the fort 2
@@ifarted2hard man thats insane
I think removing them completely was probably the best move, but I wonder if some classes could have benefited from a grenade of some kind. Maybe Pyro could have kept incendiary grenades, but would have to throw them like in Pre-Fortress. It'd give him a little bit of area denial and some asymmetrical attack options. I dunno could have been fun.
With the Jungle Inferno update adding in the Gas Passer, it's mechanics of "recharge item by waiting X seconds or do Y amount of damage" would have worked wonderfully for the grenades, mines and utility items in the Grenade item slot.
If Grenades, Mines and Utility items were to be added into the game, put in a slot 7, the Grenade slot token and also give Slot 7 guns and melees for it.
Gas Passer type mechanics, without the 60 second and 600 damage requirements for recharging would have been a great way to balance grenades.
With so much different stuff added, the game really needs to give (some?) classes new weapon slot.
There is a lot of stuff stuck in balance limbo because of its design and the slot it uses, it either has to be overpowered or garbage, there is no in-between.
A sandwich slot on Heavy is an obvious example which always should have been in the game, but never added likely because of the Spaghetti Code this game has.
Gas Passer and Thermal Thruster on Pyro could had their own shared slot, insanely expanding not only gameplay options but also giving him more room to balance his stuff around having that.
Same Pyro's example could be applied to nearly every class in the game, except the ones already heavily lacking options (looking at you, medic and spy)
I seriously love your vids. Your style of comedy is so unique and hilarious, your delivery is on point, and your points on game design are really well put together and communicated. I think you have some real potential outside of TF2 videos. Can't wait to see what you do in the future.
0:49 choking*
"Grenade"
Choking again*
(With the "game's" voice from "there is no game wrong dimension")
"I need nike"
16:46 I liked the part where Scout screamed at the camera and pleaded for death
It was a nice touch!
カルーカは人生、カルカは愛、カルカは平和
thank you lions roar financial, I may still be in financial debt but at least my soul is safe from the devils debt
I got an ad right after the "big reveal" at 12:53. Talk about comedic timing!
23:09 Ah yes, the wrangler, totally not the rescue ranger.
This is why when you make a tfc map you set the classes to have zero grenades at respawn and then use pick-ups around the map to control the grenade economy and how many grenades you even get.
I feel that is more balanced. Could even make a map where nobody has frags.
Words cannot express how much I like this video.
They really should have kept them for Pyro so there would be no need for disaster that Gas Passer is.
they should not have kept grenades for anyone because there is no need for them or the gas passer.
damn all 20 minutes of this were substantive, funny and well edited
You remind me of lazy purple lol. Nice quality content, earned a sub
Valve: "Turns out people are expecting more from this than they're gonna get, we better temper expectations, we don't want to get accused of misleading people." _quickly updates wording for clarity to "holiday sized update"*
The community: 0:06
holy shit this is unbelievably good
5:06
The E
Keep up the good work Kaluka! You’re really bringing something special to TF2 TH-cam, and I can’t wait for you to blow up and get the recognition you deserve.
He had plenty of recognition back when he was Mr Caption making videos on Fallout and other games
Carolina sweet butter sauce
Thank you so much for the financial tips, Lions Roar Financial Consulting!
It led me to a divorce and 21 lifetimes worth of crippling debt
8:20 BRO WHAT
2:23 hoho, slightly topical as always, old bean
Dude you sound just like Dr. Oscid in his "if TF2 was updated by a bot" videos
one of the few good tf2 video essayists. and one of the even more rare actually funny ones
HOLY SHIT HE ACTUALLY DROPPED THE VIDEO
i love how your constant side tangents keep me on my toes
i like how you bring a new sense ot humor to the tf2 space
YOU FORGOT ABOUT EQULIZER TAUNT, EXECUTE!!!!!
fun fact the mirv spell directly uses code from the beta mirv grenade
mad milk and jarate dont really have any direct ties to the beta grenades, the gas passer might though dont quote me on that.
the sandman could reasonably be said to be a reworking on a conc grenade
its particles are in the conc folder afterall lol
they tried bringing grenades back
i believe it was mvm only though
the mvm upgrade station has a scrapped message on it mentioning grenades, theres grenades featured on the upgrade station itself. and iirc the code lines up date wise.
i personally believe these evolved into the canteens but thats just a theory of mine
pf2's implementation is mostly correct
the grenades had a dedicated pickup which was a bucket with grenades like in pf2
pf2 isnt using the actual texture which we have
sorry if this is incoherent im like half awake typing out stuff i remember from my research
"The medic." Shows heavy.
"The wrangler." Shows rescue ranger.
you sir, have earned... absolutely nothing have a nice day
this gets a like from the shitposting idiot
Legit just said “Bro forgot about the Gas Passer” out loud only for you to mention it immediately after!
- Scorch Shot is also a type of grenade.
- Sandman Ball carries the legacy of the concussion grenade.
The sandman doesn't let you fly across the map
@kalukagamingfellaguy and it's not an AOE either. But the idea is there.
Your sfm character is really cool and very well animated
Thank you!
Fun fact about grenades: They will kill you
the third tip is genuinely comedy gold, how do you even come up with this stuff, does it just hit you in a mighty flash of unbridled genius or do you spend a millennia slaving away at the perfect joke?
Kaluka mentioned
I know I keep saying it but I’m glad you’re back Caption
The smash bros trophy for heavy just looks so.. dope
I’m kaluking out
appreciate the ceo grindset tips on the side i wish every video had them
That fucking lion roar scared me TWICE
technically the gas paser (especially the mvm one with explosive gas) and the fireball spell could be considered a spirituals successors to the napalm
and the mad milk is basically a giant midle finger to pyro,heavys and demokights
that scout stare scared the shit out of me lmao
you sound a lot like dr ocsid. i have a conspiracy theory now
If Kaluka can find the lost grenades, can he find my Dad? He said he had to go buy some Mad Milk and never came back.
Meh
Having 9 demoman with slightly diffrent abilities was dumb
Im glad Perun; the slavic god of thunder smitted granades with lighting back in 2007
Carolina Sweet Butter Sauce
Dang You beat me to it.
I love this sponsorship.
Your jokes actually make me luagh. Thanks
hey, any tips on finding the midas pot? i've got quite a stock of bodies, but they're dehydrating and decomposing rapidly, and i don't want that lost weight to become more lost profits.
that is a clever implementation of a sponsor wow
Anyone intrigued by what counted for "skill expression" in TFC should look for the TFC frag videos "Skillout" and "Last Dinosaur 2." Both classic, both an interesting time capsule of the state of Team Fortress before the sequel came out.
this tomfoolery shall not be tolerated, i sentence valve devs to 20 years in the zorblappa container...
Yippie! my niche tf2 white essayist uploaded!
THE LION SOUND LIGIT MADE ME JUMP IT SOUNDID REAL WITH HEADPHONES ON AM I CRAZY?!?!? 7:47
boy WE EATING TONIGHT
You forgot one more thing, Team Fortress 2 zombie mod allows zombie engineer to throw EMP grenades just like in classic
17:48 Scout is God's gift to woman, canonically blessed
Can confirm. These financial tips do really work!
Now I'm richer than Elon Muskrat, Jeff Benzene and Gill Bates.
What does Carolina Sweet Butter Sauce mean
In due time
I really liked the cursed jokes in this video
carolina sweet butter sauce
Give us a demolitions stockpile mode, with a map set in the Demo's home in the highlands. Everyone gets class specific grenades and increased base health due to experimental haggis injections or something and let everyone roam wild with reckless abandon spamming the level in explosions.
kingdoms of peakmalur mentioned!!! i am probably completely blinded by nolstagia
Censored the grenade after posting lol
I'm using the youtube thumbnail tester to see if censoring the grenade generates more clicks
Frankly im too high for this 16:45
still no clue what a grenade is but I'm gonna get so disgustingly rich with these tips, thanks uncle kaluka
babe wake up, kaluka posted
I think grenades could be worked into MVM in the action slot, choose between power up canteens, which gives you powerful effects anytime, anywhere or powerful AOE damage or utility in the grenade.
Thank you you saved me from debt
that's the rescue ranger. silly billy
Some of these dude's jokes made me say "what the fuck" out loud
Tip number 3 was a godsend 🙏, truly changed my life financially, physically and spiritually.
not lost, got rid of. And good riddance to those grenades
Great video, excellent side tangents. Good mix of cut humor and drawn out bits. One of the things I’d like to complain about is how at the first financial tip (which is working out excellent, the local newspaper is even recognizing me as a “mysterious” grave desecrator, whatever that means) you try to continue the point about grenade visibility that was 30 seconds ago. Imo this was really awkward pacing, both for the sake of the video and for my adhd riddled brain. I think it would’ve been better if you would’ve either cut out the addendum after the first tip, or restructured that part of the video so that the re-entry into the point wasn’t so awkward. I look like a total nerd pointing this out but I got crazy whiplash from how lost I was at this point. Besides that, great vid, looking forwards to your next post.
Delightfully unhinged video as always
Interesting..... But I hate it when people have fun.
grenades could work in tf2 arena mode or mannpower, if they have the same trail as grenades from half life 2 and have an extremely loud bounce and also can't be cooked it would be used more for flushing out opponents out of a corner rather than outright damaging them
grenades should also just not be able to be regained anywhere other than a resupply locker
Valve could add grenades into the game the same way they added jarate, mad milk and the gas passer.
(Frag grenade)
You can only throw one grenade.
Does not explode on impact.
The grenade has a 5 second fuse.
Replenishes for 10 seconds.
The blast radius is 15 meters or 49 feet. (just like in real life)
Deals 100 damage if an enemy stands near or on top of the grenade.
Deals 50 damage if an enemy stands in the blast radius.