one thing to note on I-69 in TN is that some of the construction has already gone underway, just not finished. Although Fulton KY is the official endpoint of that I-69 segment, they're building a stretch of it bypassing Union City TN. From there it will eventually be continued around Dyersburg and southwest to Memphis. Some stretches will likely be resigned on parts of US 51 but other stretches will probably be built from scratch (like Union City)
To add on to that, money was allocated for constructing the Troy Bypass as part of the Transportation Appropriations Bill. This will extend from the current southern end of the Union City bypass and run to the east of Troy.
I live in north MS. That north bound I-69 - I-55 junction was built in a clover leaf based on traffic MDOT data collected. If you go straight there instead of existing, the interstate turns into I-269. It was completed recently and is an outer beltway around the Memphis metro. I-269 links up with I-40 and most of the traffic is people taking I-269 to I-40 (or suburbs east of Memphis) versus taking the north bound I-55 / I-69 ramp to avoid the core of Memphis and the traffic. This may change once I-69 is actually completed and crosses the MS river and a new interchange will need to be built, but we all know how slow building I-69 has been so who knows when that will be. There was some discussion about how these routes would be assigned between MDOT and TDOT before I-269 was built. One proposal was to badge the I-269 beltway as I-69 concurrently all the way around Memphis until it links up with US-51/Future I-69 north of Memphis. The other proposal was how it is badged today. I think the more direct route makes since, especially since both TDOT and MDOT are doing a lot of work making I-55 8 lanes from just south of Desoto County MS all the way across the river into AR with the new MS river bridge going up.
Fun fact: The Western KY Parkway is slated to be designated as I-569 in the future from the interchange with I-69 to the interchange with I-165 (the former Natcher Parkway). I-69 also replaced the majority of the Pennyrile Parkway; the remainder section from the I-69 interchange to I-24 should actually be I-169 but it doesn’t seemed to be signed as such yet. Maybe that’ll change soon?
I think they should make the entire Parkway I-569, sign it all the way to I-65. Also I-269 is eventually going to extend to meet U.S. 51 (future I-69) at Millington.
Update: Kentucky just unveiled 4 “future I-569 corridor” signs on the western Kentucky parkway the 38 mile stretch. 2 signs on each direction. Upgrades still have to be made however. So western Kentucky parkway will be I-569. Audubon parkway I-369. And pennyrile parkway I-169. I think the Cumberland parkway will be I-365 since I-66 is canceled. Kentucky really gives North Carolina a run for its money when it comes to designating new interstates
assuming that Tennessee actually builds 69 in-state along the east side of the Mississippi ... TNDOT likely will list Dyersburg and/or Union City as a control city. TNDOT won't skip all the way up 69's projected path and list Indianapolis. nor Evansville. TNDOT just ain't gonna do it.
A long time ago (5-10 years) I saw a set of bid documents for the small 2-mile long portion of I-269 near Collierville (the part btwn TN 385 and the state line, as when TN 385 was planned, 269 was not even thought of so they had to add on that small portion of 269). When they had these documents online, the signing plan had Shreveport and Evansville as the control cities. Typically, TDOT does a pretty good job changing out the signage of a road is rerouted or upgraded; the portion that was TN 385 that is now 269 had different signs 5 years ago and they already changed them on the main line and side roads to more reasonable ones. All that being said, I think they will change them to Shreveport and Evansville from the Memphis metro if the road ever gets there (or in TN, at least leave it Jackson, MS southbound). But I don’t think they’ll leave all but maybe that sign on I-40, exit 2 as Millington and certainly not as Dyersburg. They don’t sign Jackson, TN on I-40 and it’s 6 times larger than Dyersburg so I doubt they’ll sign it as that unless it’s as a secondary.
@@ControlCityFreak I-69 is setup in Mississippi weird in my opinion. After I-55, it turns west towards Tunica, then turns south towards Cleveland MS, then turns west towards Arkansas.
the 69 portion in Mississippi is abnormal ... but 69's path is designed to get it through Louisiana into Texas. and 69 will cross the Mississippi River between Cleveland and Greenville ... which would only be the third bridge crossing the Mississippi River between I-20 in Vicksburg, and I-40 & I-55 in downtown Memphis (US 82/278 near Greenville, Miss. ... and US 49 near Helena, Ark.) being the other two). 269 was completed as a joint project with Tennessee's and Mississippi's DOT's cuz Memphis needed a eastern bypass for truck traffic from New Orleans to Nashville. same reason Birmingham finally will complete the north loop of the 459 bypass ring around the city.
I think Wingo is the current southern end point for I-69 in KY. There should be END I-69/BEGIN Purchase Pkwy and vice versa assemblies somewhere in that area. I think the old “toll booth cloverleaf” interchange at Wingo has to be rebuilt before they can sign 69 in that area, plus possibly a few other minor upgrades, namely guardrails to overcome the (slightly) substandard median width.
I went to college in Monticello, AR a couple of years ago. I've seen these FUTURE I-69 signs and I'm excited for that town and surrounding areas to get some exposure and hopefully economic growth. I've already seen Monticello start to improve in its condition some in recent years. Sadly southeast Arkansas and western Mississippi are extremely poor and there is little opportunity to be found.
The Delta is the the poorest part of the country, period. It’s also incredibly remote, to not be a mountainous area. A road like this would totally transform it.
To my knowledge, there are two cloverleaf interchanges on I-10 in MS, a modified one at I-110/MS-67 for Biloxi, and another with US-46 for Gulfport. Both are full.
@@GamingBren There is a clover leaf interchange at the I-40/ I-269 (state route 385) in Tennessee. It is far enough east that both roads are only 4 lanes but it is an obsolete design even when it was built.
Since this segment is the most disjointed of all of I 69, there’s no way I’m going to be able to do a complete list with exits. However, if the route is established, then I can make a truncated list. Northbound Shreveport out of Houston (maybe co-signed with Texarkana due to 369) until I 49. Memphis past I 49 until just before the I 55/I 269 interchange in Hernando. Evansville past I 40 in Memphis to just before Henderson city limits (co-signed with Clarksville, with Nashville added on overheads east of Paducah; also co-signed with Elizabethtown, with Louisville on overheads until the Western Kentucky Parkway) Southbound: Memphis once crossing over the Ohio River until before Future I 269 (co-signed with Clarksville, with Nashville on overheads, until I 169; and possibly Paducah until the I 24 split, unless Paducah stalls and never gets above 50k urban, in which case St. Louis) Shreveport from the Tennessee/Mississippi line until I 20. Houston from I 20 to Patton Village in Montgomery County. This segment looks like it’ll be very rural in nature, especially between Shreveport and Memphis. Even if the proposed route got closer to Pine Bluff with the 530 extension, I still probably wouldn’t include it as a control (the urban population is less than 50k, and is declining). El Dorado isn’t big enough for my standards, which will essentially make Arkansas a drive-thru state. Mississippi will be similar, as outside of the Memphis suburbs, it doesn’t go near anything bigger than Clarksdale or Cleveland, and again, none are remotely big enough under my standards…
10:57 ... Originally this route was supposed to connect to the I-40 bridge in downtown Memphis to continue into Arkansas. There are "stub ramps " on the I-40 bridge intended for the connection. However there is a pyramid in the way now, so I guess that will never happen. I forgot. Actually the "South" exit goes to southbound Thomas street the continues into downtown Memphis.
@@ControlCityFreak The section was built in the early 1970s and was designated I-240 including the exit to US 51 from the northwest turn. When the I-40 route through Overton Park was canceled, the "north loop of I-240 was re-designated I- 40. interesting fact The "north loop" was constructed on fill that was extracted from the Mississippi River. Much of this route is in the Wolf River flood plain.
I may revisit it in the future, I don’t know too much about it. I just remember seeing the Purchase Parkway on maps when I was a kid, and I thought it was a good name for a toll road since you have to purchase your way onto it.
The Helena bridge was based on the old US-82 bridge at Greenville, MS, which was even scarier. I crossed it a few times. It was built by the WPA during the Depression.
Day 2 of asking you to cover Highway 401 in Ontario Canada. It is Ontario’s main highway as it runs from the Michigan border to just outside of the Quebec border near Montreal. It is also the busiest freeway in North America trough Toronto as it stretches up to 18 lanes. I think it’s a very interesting highway to cover.
I think I-69 south should have been signed for Hopkinsville at first. Then Paducah. And then possibly Dyersburg since it's the biggest town passed where I-69 currently ends.
I do think the spur is more likely .... as 69 has to run mostly east-west across southern Arkansas/northern Louisiana to get into Texas from its projected Mississippi River crossing near Cleveland, MS.
Once 69 is complete, will it be faster to get from Chicago to Memphis by going through Paducah than by going through Sikeston. If not, what about by using 155 rather than 40 to cross the Mississippi? If either will be faster than going through Sikeston, I think 57 should be rerouted along the fastest route between Chicago and Memphis, and 57 west of it can be part of a new east-west route that uses current I-30 to get to Texas. I think 69 should then be rerouted along 169 and the Western Kentucky Parkway can be an extension of I-68 or I-26
I am unsure how to get 26 to Kentucky, but 68 could use 79 to get to Charleston, WV and then be concurrent with I-64 from Charleston to Lexington South of Memphis, Mississippi’s I-69 can be part of I-22. Texas’s can be part of a new interstate following US 59 from Laredo to Texarkana
Looks like a couple of states has issues with funding when it comes to build new roads. It's going to be years before I-69 is complete. Monticello AR had a bypass built. I think they going extend it more starting later this year.
@@highway2heaven91 That’s what I’d bet on as well. Also wouldn’t be surprised if Texas finished it’s massive section of I-69 before they finish their tiny section of I-49
@ 4:11 - you skipped over the other complete section of I-69 (unsigned) in Tennessee: U.S. 51 around Martin to Dyersburg (which also bypasses central Dyersburg). To people incorrectly reading a map, it looks like an extension of I-155, but I-155 (concurrent with U.S. 412) has an "END I-155" sign posted at it's interchange with U.S. 51, as U.S. 412 continues east to Jackson, Tennessee. @ 4:18 - the "
Before you do the southern Texas part 3 of I 69 there is a couple of video to check out. I got to them by typing " I 69 Construction Texas. Two Texas towns Nacogdoches and Diboll have drone videos. 1. Nacogdoches Us59/ loop 224 flyover project. 2. Diboll Texas new loop construction on Highway 59/ Interstate 69. No signs of construction on Google Street view. But if you play with Street level 2021 late year view. I'll find out next week how you did.
*"The Great Oil Refinery Connector"* Houston to Shreveport to Memphis "near" Whiting, Indiana through South Central Michigan "near" Toledo. Massive Bridge (Gordie Howe) across the Detroit River and literally all of Detroit City from Southwest Ontario directly into Interstate 75, Michigan. Add Interstate 69 to that and an already booming Southern Michigan economy will boom even more as Michigan is a not minor oil producing State. Cutting lateraly across Indiana even including Indianapolis is still the middle of nowhere so no doubt very happy to have Interstate 69 already there plus will connect overland two massive Federal Express Air Freight Terminals between Indianapolis and Memphis. Leaving Memphis going South and West is yet again absolutely the middle of fucking nowhere so as a truck driver definitely a huge shout out to this project. "Free parking." Great news for Walmart, Dollar General and John Deere maybe Massey Ferguson as well. Need to get the Indiana Kentucky Bridge built first then the one over the Mississippi River as well. They would both need to be absolutely huge Bridges as well the former to handle huge amounts of traffic including Big Semis the second to be able to cross the entire breadth and depth of the Mississippi River that far South. Also somewhere in all of this middle of fucking nowhere will be Interstate 14 from South Central Georgia(East) crossing all the way to West Texas. Where these two would meet would be very valuable real estate long since purchased i imagine.
Looks like they would meet around Livingston, Texas. Whether this junction is built and meaningful with more or less finished roads happens in our lifetimes is probably the real question on land value there.
Right now, Kentucky should be cut a bit of slack - some of those signs are from the old Parkway days, and, since technically I-69 basically currently ends at the IN and TN borders for the time being, not signing anything beyond Henderson and Fulton makes sense. I imagine once the new Ohio River bridge is done, north will be signed for Evansville or Indianapolis. As TN is being slow to build their portion on the area north of Memphis, who knows what southbound will have.
@@ControlCityFreak I’m also super hyped for the I-80 videos, because PennDOT’s control cities in PA for I-80 are absolutely atrocious. Like, at the interchange with I-79, the control cities are Sharon and Clarion, not the much more sensible choices of Youngstown/Cleveland and New York City. I can’t wait for you to roast PennDOT! I’ve been a roadgeek for years and your channel is amazing. Thanks for all your hard work.
I know I have already said something similar on the I-49 video, but I think it’s time to admit Arkansas has higher priorities than building I-69. It recently proposed an interstate connecting I-49 to Tulsa. I do want that interstate, and for it to be called I-344, but not until I-49 is finished As such, let’s end I-69 at its interchange with 55 in Memphis and extend I-22 to Tunica. The part of 269 north of its interchange with 22 can be I-540, because it’s main purpose is to get I-40 traffic to Mississippi
I’ll comment what I think the Texas section should be on the video specifically about it in a few hours Update: I’ve done so. Basically I-45 needs to be rerouted
Todd, I was over in Henderson on US60 just before turning onto Wathen Lane. They have the place marked where the bridge will be going over the road there. The bridge will be built about a mile to the east of the Twin Bridges and just to the west of the confluence of the Green River into the Ohio River.
I bet I-69 in Arkansas will be completed before Tennessee even gets halfway finished. The interstate-grade parts of US 51 in Tennessee are very nice, though. Also, I agree with I-22 replacing the southern leg of I-269; of course, I'd rather I-30 be routed that way (splitting off of the new I-57 extension at Hope, AR, along US-278 towards Warren/Monticello to follow I-69).
I don't see where I-22 should be a part of I-69. I- 22 follows old route 78 between Memphis and Birmingham and there is a section between I-240 and the state line that is rather difficult to bring up to freeway standards because that section of Lamar (78) is heavily industrialized. There are some short segments that are done, but several miles still have intersections at grade and unlimited access between intersections. I-22 is complete between the Mississippi line and Birmingham.
@@swinde the I22 designation ends at 269. If they were planning to keep it that way, seems they could have signed 269 as 22 from 22’s end to 55. 269 is a new road anyway, not like they’re changing something entrenched.
My Control Cities South Henderson Nashville/Memphis ,(as this 8sbthe route to both places Little Rock/ Shreveport Houston (it seems toe at the state Line, that there would need to be an intermediate large city like Dallas) this is like coming into CA from OR on I-5 and getting Los Angeles as a destination when of course CA does give some intermediate cities (Sacramento, Stockton, and Tracy) and some large secondary and tertiary colors as control destinations (Santa Ana and Redding come to mind here,). North Little Rock Memphis/Nashville Henderson Evansville Indianapolis Fort Wayne Grand Rapids Sarnia, Ont. (Canada On the CONCURRENT SEGMENTS, THEY SHOULD DOUBLE SIGN THE CONCURRENT LEGS with 55, 240, 40, etc. Like in Indiana, I-69 is theoretically I-74 and ai-465;as well as several US and Indiana State Highws. As to Texas, there are 5 segments The Sten coming down from Arkansas', and three branches, 69E To Brownsville, 69C (which is probably the main line, and 69W to Laredo. I don't know which border crossing 69C will go to but ai suspect they will connect to I-2.
On the I-24 Concurrency, Since 24 defaults into 57 North, I would give Carbondale or Effingham or both as control destinations. Tennessee for some reason prefers to sign Cairo instead of Carbondale.
Instead of Sarnia, I'd say Toronto. Also, why this signage? This isn't useful to anyone who is traveling on this road. I'd suggest this: (NORTH): Houston, Texarkana/Shreveport, Shreveport, Memphis, Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Lansing, Flint, Toronto (SOUTH): Flint, Lansing, Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Evansville, Memphis, Shreveport, Houston, Laredo/McAllen/Corpus Christi That's all you need.
Can you do I-275 Michigan? That freeway has the worst Control City lineup. When it exits from I-75 near Monroe it’s signed for Flint even though it doesn’t go anywhere near Flint, only I-75 does. Plus, it gets co-signed with I-96 up to I-696, a weird co-signage. I-275’s main control cities should be Ann Arbor and Lansing instead as it’s signed along I-96 in Livonia, and it has an exit for M-14 which goes to Ann Arbor. I-275’s sole southbound control city (Toledo, Ohio) is fine but it’s northbound ones are wrong. You should also look into I-196 too. It’s southern segment doesn’t have Chicago as a control city even though it ends at I-94 which goes to Chicago.
Here is how I'd sign the control cities: (SOUTH): Memphis, Shreveport, Houston (NORTH): Texarkana/Shreveport, Shreveport, Memphis, Indianapolis Note: The Texarkana is for I-69W or I-369.
I don't know why I-69 should go through Downtown Memphis when it could have been routed around the outer beltway that's now designated I-269, and US-51 north of I-40/240 could have been numbered I-369.
A couple of questions number one how did you find out about the I 68 hype and number two at 2.38k subs can you do I 238 since it is practically like a 2di
I-70 the way it should be WB: Pittsburgh, Wheeling, Columbus, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Grand Junction, Las Vegas. EB: Denver, Kansas City, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Columbus, Wheeling, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg (PA Turnpike portion), Baltimore / Washington. At least that's my opinion.
I-80 the way it should be: (WEST): Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Des Moines, Omaha, Lincoln, Denver, Cheyenne, Salt Lake City, Reno, Sacramento, San Francisco (EAST): Sacramento, Reno, Salt Lake City, Cheyenne, Omaha, Des Moines, Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Youngstown, New York I-90 the way it should be: (WEST): Worcester, Springfield, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Erie, Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Rockford, Madison, Rochester, Sioux Falls, Rapid City, Billings, Bozeman, Butte, Missoula, Spokane, Seattle (EAST): Spokane, Billings, Sioux Falls, Rochester, Madison, Rockford/Chicago, Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Boston I-95 the way it should be: (NORTH): Jacksonville, Savannah, Fayetteville, Richmond, Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Bridgeport, New Haven, Boston, Portland, Lewiston, Augusta, Bangor, Houlton, Woodstock (SOUTH): Boston, Providence, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, Richmond, Fayetteville, Savannah, Jacksonville, Miami I-75 the way it should be: (NORTH): Tampa, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Lexington, Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Sault Ste. Marie (SOUTH): Detroit, Toledo, Cincinnati, Lexington, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, Macon, Tampa, Miami
I can bet on it that it won't be Indianapolis from Memphis when I-69 is complete. I would even bet it wouldn't be Evansville it will likely be Dyersburg. Now Evansville I would think would replace Henderson in KY.
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one thing to note on I-69 in TN is that some of the construction has already gone underway, just not finished. Although Fulton KY is the official endpoint of that I-69 segment, they're building a stretch of it bypassing Union City TN. From there it will eventually be continued around Dyersburg and southwest to Memphis. Some stretches will likely be resigned on parts of US 51 but other stretches will probably be built from scratch (like Union City)
To add on to that, money was allocated for constructing the Troy Bypass as part of the Transportation Appropriations Bill. This will extend from the current southern end of the Union City bypass and run to the east of Troy.
I live in north MS. That north bound I-69 - I-55 junction was built in a clover leaf based on traffic MDOT data collected. If you go straight there instead of existing, the interstate turns into I-269. It was completed recently and is an outer beltway around the Memphis metro. I-269 links up with I-40 and most of the traffic is people taking I-269 to I-40 (or suburbs east of Memphis) versus taking the north bound I-55 / I-69 ramp to avoid the core of Memphis and the traffic. This may change once I-69 is actually completed and crosses the MS river and a new interchange will need to be built, but we all know how slow building I-69 has been so who knows when that will be.
There was some discussion about how these routes would be assigned between MDOT and TDOT before I-269 was built. One proposal was to badge the I-269 beltway as I-69 concurrently all the way around Memphis until it links up with US-51/Future I-69 north of Memphis. The other proposal was how it is badged today. I think the more direct route makes since, especially since both TDOT and MDOT are doing a lot of work making I-55 8 lanes from just south of Desoto County MS all the way across the river into AR with the new MS river bridge going up.
Well, the heavily-used interchange between I-69 and I-94 at Marshall, Michigan is also a cloverleaf.
The union city section opened yesterday 2-21-2024, I will post a video later
A little note union city is currently signed as tn 690
Fun fact: The Western KY Parkway is slated to be designated as I-569 in the future from the interchange with I-69 to the interchange with I-165 (the former Natcher Parkway).
I-69 also replaced the majority of the Pennyrile Parkway; the remainder section from the I-69 interchange to I-24 should actually be I-169 but it doesn’t seemed to be signed as such yet. Maybe that’ll change soon?
Great info!
I think they should make the entire Parkway I-569, sign it all the way to I-65. Also I-269 is eventually going to extend to meet U.S. 51 (future I-69) at Millington.
How about I-769 in Kentucky?
There isn't one proposed. However there is an I-369 proposed which is currently the Audubon Parkway.
Update: Kentucky just unveiled 4 “future I-569 corridor” signs on the western Kentucky parkway the 38 mile stretch. 2 signs on each direction. Upgrades still have to be made however.
So western Kentucky parkway will be I-569. Audubon parkway I-369. And pennyrile parkway I-169. I think the Cumberland parkway will be I-365 since I-66 is canceled. Kentucky really gives North Carolina a run for its money when it comes to designating new interstates
6:12 there is an end sign for I 69 on the tunica county line
Millington, TN - A defense Control City. US Navy Bureau of Personnel and the former Naval Air Station Memphis are located there.
It’s fine for a US highway control city
assuming that Tennessee actually builds 69 in-state along the east side of the Mississippi ... TNDOT likely will list Dyersburg and/or Union City as a control city. TNDOT won't skip all the way up 69's projected path and list Indianapolis. nor Evansville. TNDOT just ain't gonna do it.
A long time ago (5-10 years) I saw a set of bid documents for the small 2-mile long portion of I-269 near Collierville (the part btwn TN 385 and the state line, as when TN 385 was planned, 269 was not even thought of so they had to add on that small portion of 269). When they had these documents online, the signing plan had Shreveport and Evansville as the control cities. Typically, TDOT does a pretty good job changing out the signage of a road is rerouted or upgraded; the portion that was TN 385 that is now 269 had different signs 5 years ago and they already changed them on the main line and side roads to more reasonable ones. All that being said, I think they will change them to Shreveport and Evansville from the Memphis metro if the road ever gets there (or in TN, at least leave it Jackson, MS southbound). But I don’t think they’ll leave all but maybe that sign on I-40, exit 2 as Millington and certainly not as Dyersburg. They don’t sign Jackson, TN on I-40 and it’s 6 times larger than Dyersburg so I doubt they’ll sign it as that unless it’s as a secondary.
Currently, I-269 has more miles designated in Mississippi and Tennessee than its parent route has.
69 is so weird
@@ControlCityFreak I-69 is setup in Mississippi weird in my opinion. After I-55, it turns west towards Tunica, then turns south towards Cleveland MS, then turns west towards Arkansas.
@@justinsmith2598 True, but it is a diagonal so that sort of thing is gonna happen. Still way weirder in Texas
@@ControlCityFreak True.
the 69 portion in Mississippi is abnormal ... but 69's path is designed to get it through Louisiana into Texas. and 69 will cross the Mississippi River between Cleveland and Greenville ... which would only be the third bridge crossing the Mississippi River between I-20 in Vicksburg, and I-40 & I-55 in downtown Memphis (US 82/278 near Greenville, Miss. ... and US 49 near Helena, Ark.) being the other two).
269 was completed as a joint project with Tennessee's and Mississippi's DOT's cuz Memphis needed a eastern bypass for truck traffic from New Orleans to Nashville. same reason Birmingham finally will complete the north loop of the 459 bypass ring around the city.
I think Wingo is the current southern end point for I-69 in KY. There should be END I-69/BEGIN Purchase Pkwy and vice versa assemblies somewhere in that area. I think the old “toll booth cloverleaf” interchange at Wingo has to be rebuilt before they can sign 69 in that area, plus possibly a few other minor upgrades, namely guardrails to overcome the (slightly) substandard median width.
Ah so that’s why it isn’t signed
I went to college in Monticello, AR a couple of years ago. I've seen these FUTURE I-69 signs and I'm excited for that town and surrounding areas to get some exposure and hopefully economic growth. I've already seen Monticello start to improve in its condition some in recent years. Sadly southeast Arkansas and western Mississippi are extremely poor and there is little opportunity to be found.
The Delta is the the poorest part of the country, period. It’s also incredibly remote, to not be a mountainous area. A road like this would totally transform it.
That’s great to hear Monticello is improving. Hopefully that will continue once 69 is built
Mississippi loves the cloverleaf interchange; from what I could find every major 4 way intersection is a cloverleaf
The Illinois of the South
To my knowledge, there are two cloverleaf interchanges on I-10 in MS, a modified one at I-110/MS-67 for Biloxi, and another with US-46 for Gulfport. Both are full.
@@GamingBren and it’s only in Mississippi a few miles
@@ControlCityFreak yeah strange
@@GamingBren
There is a clover leaf interchange at the I-40/ I-269 (state route 385) in Tennessee. It is far enough east that both roads are only 4 lanes but it is an obsolete design even when it was built.
I feel like Evansville could be a reasonable control city for northbound I-69 because Henderson, KY is a suburb of Evansville, IN.
Like I-49 from week's back, I-69 is also a incomplete interstate
We will see that a lot in the upcoming episodes. I-73, I-74, I-87, I-99.
Since this segment is the most disjointed of all of I 69, there’s no way I’m going to be able to do a complete list with exits. However, if the route is established, then I can make a truncated list.
Northbound
Shreveport out of Houston (maybe co-signed with Texarkana due to 369) until I 49.
Memphis past I 49 until just before the I 55/I 269 interchange in Hernando.
Evansville past I 40 in Memphis to just before Henderson city limits (co-signed with Clarksville, with Nashville added on overheads east of Paducah; also co-signed with Elizabethtown, with Louisville on overheads until the Western Kentucky Parkway)
Southbound:
Memphis once crossing over the Ohio River until before Future I 269 (co-signed with Clarksville, with Nashville on overheads, until I 169; and possibly Paducah until the I 24 split, unless Paducah stalls and never gets above 50k urban, in which case St. Louis)
Shreveport from the Tennessee/Mississippi line until I 20.
Houston from I 20 to Patton Village in Montgomery County.
This segment looks like it’ll be very rural in nature, especially between Shreveport and Memphis. Even if the proposed route got closer to Pine Bluff with the 530 extension, I still probably wouldn’t include it as a control (the urban population is less than 50k, and is declining). El Dorado isn’t big enough for my standards, which will essentially make Arkansas a drive-thru state. Mississippi will be similar, as outside of the Memphis suburbs, it doesn’t go near anything bigger than Clarksdale or Cleveland, and again, none are remotely big enough under my standards…
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10:57 ... Originally this route was supposed to connect to the I-40 bridge in downtown Memphis to continue into Arkansas. There are "stub ramps " on the I-40 bridge intended for the connection. However there is a pyramid in the way now, so I guess that will never happen.
I forgot. Actually the "South" exit goes to southbound Thomas street the continues into downtown Memphis.
Oh wow didn’t know that small section was that old, I’d assumed it was built for 69 relatively recently
@@ControlCityFreak
The section was built in the early 1970s and was designated I-240 including the exit to US 51 from the northwest turn. When the I-40 route through Overton Park was canceled, the "north loop of I-240 was re-designated I- 40.
interesting fact The "north loop" was constructed on fill that was extracted from the Mississippi River. Much of this route is in the Wolf River flood plain.
@@swinde Thanks, great info!
KY Parkway system would be an interesting topic to talk about
I may revisit it in the future, I don’t know too much about it. I just remember seeing the Purchase Parkway on maps when I was a kid, and I thought it was a good name for a toll road since you have to purchase your way onto it.
Is that the Arkansas Helena-West Helena US 49 bridge? That scares me as much as the old US 54 Mississippi river bridge
It is! I’ve never been on it but I was on the US 54 one several times
The Helena bridge was based on the old US-82 bridge at Greenville, MS, which was even scarier. I crossed it a few times. It was built by the WPA during the Depression.
I had driven across the US 49 bridge several times in the 1970s and it is a scary bridge.
The 49 bridge is ... and the old 82 bridge was ... scary AF 😂
Day 2 of asking you to cover Highway 401 in Ontario Canada. It is Ontario’s main highway as it runs from the Michigan border to just outside of the Quebec border near Montreal. It is also the busiest freeway in North America trough Toronto as it stretches up to 18 lanes. I think it’s a very interesting highway to cover.
He'll probably consider it after covering the Interstate system first.
The correct control cities for the next major Interstates we are going to cover:
I-70:
(WEST): Pittsburgh, Wheeling, Columbus, Dayton, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City, Topeka, Denver, Grand Junction, Las Vegas
(EAST): Denver, Kansas City, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Columbus, Wheeling, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg/Baltimore/Washington (during the PA Turnpike), Baltimore/Washington, Baltimore
I-75:
(NORTH): Tampa, Gainesville, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Lexington, Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Sault Ste. Marie
(SOUTH): Detroit, Toledo, Cincinnati, Lexington, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, Macon, Tampa, Miami
I-80:
(WEST): Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Des Moines, Omaha, Lincoln, Denver, Cheyenne, Salt Lake City, Reno, Sacramento, San Francisco
(EAST): Sacramento, Reno, Salt Lake City, Cheyenne, Omaha, Des Moines, Chicago, Peoria (at the junction with I-88), Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Youngstown, New York
I-85:
(NORTH): Atlanta, Greenville, Charlotte, Greensboro/Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Durham/Raleigh (during the I-40 concurrency), Durham,
Richmond
(SOUTH): Durham, Greensboro, Charlotte, Greenville, Atlanta, Montgomery, Mobile
I-90:
(WEST): Worcester, Springfield, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Erie, Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Rockford, Madison, Rochester, Sioux Falls, Rapid City, Billings, Bozeman, Butte, Missoula, Spokane, Seattle
(EAST): Spokane, Coeur d'Alene, Missoula, Butte, Billings, Rapid City, Sioux Falls, Rochester, Madison, Rockford/Chicago, Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Boston
I-94:
(EAST): Bismarck, Fargo, Minneapolis, St. Paul, Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Toronto
(WEST): Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison, Rochester/Minneapolis (during the I-90 and I-39 concurrency), Minneapolis, Fargo, Bismarck, Billings
I-95:
(NORTH): Jacksonville, Savannah, Florence, Fayetteville, Richmond, Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Bridgeport, New Haven, Providence, Boston, Portland, Lewiston, Augusta, Bangor, Houlton, Fredericton
(SOUTH): Portland, Boston, Providence, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, Richmond, Fayetteville, Florence, Savannah, Jacksonville, Miami
I think I-69 south should have been signed for Hopkinsville at first. Then Paducah. And then possibly Dyersburg since it's the biggest town passed where I-69 currently ends.
Audubon Parkway might be I-369 between I-69 in Henderson to Owensboro as they have planned.
The portion of I-69 in Mississippi was built by the casinos themselves, not with state money, hence the weirdness of the signage for "Tunica".
Wow, weird
There’s a I-369 west side of Texarkana, I still believe that I-69 will run around in this area, or on us hwy 59 going south to Houston Tx.
I think the plan is it to be a spur down to 69, which will largely be on 59 past Tenaha
I do think the spur is more likely .... as 69 has to run mostly east-west across southern Arkansas/northern Louisiana to get into Texas from its projected Mississippi River crossing near Cleveland, MS.
Once 69 is complete, will it be faster to get from Chicago to Memphis by going through Paducah than by going through Sikeston. If not, what about by using 155 rather than 40 to cross the Mississippi?
If either will be faster than going through Sikeston, I think 57 should be rerouted along the fastest route between Chicago and Memphis, and 57 west of it can be part of a new east-west route that uses current I-30 to get to Texas. I think 69 should then be rerouted along 169 and the Western Kentucky Parkway can be an extension of I-68 or I-26
I am unsure how to get 26 to Kentucky, but 68 could use 79 to get to Charleston, WV and then be concurrent with I-64 from Charleston to Lexington
South of Memphis, Mississippi’s I-69 can be part of I-22. Texas’s can be part of a new interstate following US 59 from Laredo to Texarkana
Looks like a couple of states has issues with funding when it comes to build new roads. It's going to be years before I-69 is complete. Monticello AR had a bypass built. I think they going extend it more starting later this year.
Agree, I think it will quite a while before it’s all done.
Texas will most likely finish before most of the states in this video.
@@highway2heaven91 That’s what I’d bet on as well. Also wouldn’t be surprised if Texas finished it’s massive section of I-69 before they finish their tiny section of I-49
It was cool that you highlighted the missing links.
I was surprised that it took a lot more work for a road that largely isn't there than for one that it lol.
In Memphis , I-40 goes into West Memphis AR , the road just goes south bound for a minute til it gets to I-240 then 69 will get on 240 also
@ 4:11 - you skipped over the other complete section of I-69 (unsigned) in Tennessee: U.S. 51 around Martin to Dyersburg (which also bypasses central Dyersburg). To people incorrectly reading a map, it looks like an extension of I-155, but I-155 (concurrent with U.S. 412) has an "END I-155" sign posted at it's interchange with U.S. 51, as U.S. 412 continues east to Jackson, Tennessee.
@ 4:18 - the "
Before you do the southern Texas part 3 of I 69 there is a couple of video to check out. I got to them by typing " I 69 Construction Texas. Two Texas towns Nacogdoches and Diboll have drone videos. 1. Nacogdoches Us59/ loop 224 flyover project.
2. Diboll Texas new loop construction on Highway 59/ Interstate 69. No signs of construction on Google Street view. But if you play with Street level 2021 late year view. I'll find out next week how you did.
I’ll check it out
The Quad State Supercell passed over I-69 twice dropping a long tracked EF4 tornado from Mayfield to I think Dawson Springs.
That's not I 69 that's I 24
12:19 Wondering if that sign sustained minor damage from the 2021 Kentucky Tornado?
Kentucky generally signs pretty well, I imagine it will change
@@ControlCityFreak That 24 sign for St. Louis makes would make me rank it either #1 or #2 in the Midwest State DOTs ranking vid.
That street view is too old.
@The Road Dogs 2 Yeah I know. But I think it at least deserves to be in front of VA.
*"The Great Oil Refinery Connector"* Houston to Shreveport to Memphis "near" Whiting, Indiana through South Central Michigan "near" Toledo. Massive Bridge (Gordie Howe) across the Detroit River and literally all of Detroit City from Southwest Ontario directly into Interstate 75, Michigan. Add Interstate 69 to that and an already booming Southern Michigan economy will boom even more as Michigan is a not minor oil producing State. Cutting lateraly across Indiana even including Indianapolis is still the middle of nowhere so no doubt very happy to have Interstate 69 already there plus will connect overland two massive Federal Express Air Freight Terminals between Indianapolis and Memphis. Leaving Memphis going South and West is yet again absolutely the middle of fucking nowhere so as a truck driver definitely a huge shout out to this project. "Free parking." Great news for Walmart, Dollar General and John Deere maybe Massey Ferguson as well. Need to get the Indiana Kentucky Bridge built first then the one over the Mississippi River as well. They would both need to be absolutely huge Bridges as well the former to handle huge amounts of traffic including Big Semis the second to be able to cross the entire breadth and depth of the Mississippi River that far South. Also somewhere in all of this middle of fucking nowhere will be Interstate 14 from South Central Georgia(East) crossing all the way to West Texas. Where these two would meet would be very valuable real estate long since purchased i imagine.
Looks like they would meet around Livingston, Texas. Whether this junction is built and meaningful with more or less finished roads happens in our lifetimes is probably the real question on land value there.
Right now, Kentucky should be cut a bit of slack - some of those signs are from the old Parkway days, and, since technically I-69 basically currently ends at the IN and TN borders for the time being, not signing anything beyond Henderson and Fulton makes sense. I imagine once the new Ohio River bridge is done, north will be signed for Evansville or Indianapolis. As TN is being slow to build their portion on the area north of Memphis, who knows what southbound will have.
I agree. I’m impressed with what KY has done construction-wise
I-69 is fascinating, no doubt. But as a Pennsylvanian, I’m so hyped for I-70, and I don’t know if I can make it another two weeks!
It’s my favorite too! My hometown road and I’ve driven the whole thing multiple times.
@@ControlCityFreak I’m also super hyped for the I-80 videos, because PennDOT’s control cities in PA for I-80 are absolutely atrocious. Like, at the interchange with I-79, the control cities are Sharon and Clarion, not the much more sensible choices of Youngstown/Cleveland and New York City. I can’t wait for you to roast PennDOT! I’ve been a roadgeek for years and your channel is amazing. Thanks for all your hard work.
@@seanmerritt2905 Thanks! Yeah 80 will be awesome too. I’ve never been on it in PA but I’m aware of the situation there
Minor correction but the slides for the NB I69- US 41 and the final mileage sign for Henderson are swapped
Yeah I thought I may have mixed those up when I was editing but at that point I didn’t have time to go back and fix it.
I know I have already said something similar on the I-49 video, but I think it’s time to admit Arkansas has higher priorities than building I-69. It recently proposed an interstate connecting I-49 to Tulsa. I do want that interstate, and for it to be called I-344, but not until I-49 is finished
As such, let’s end I-69 at its interchange with 55 in Memphis and extend I-22 to Tunica. The part of 269 north of its interchange with 22 can be I-540, because it’s main purpose is to get I-40 traffic to Mississippi
I’ll comment what I think the Texas section should be on the video specifically about it in a few hours
Update: I’ve done so. Basically I-45 needs to be rerouted
Actually, the sign just before you cross into Mississippi. What is 55 S. 69 S. it actually is MSDOT signing it
I love this stuff
Thanks!
Todd, I was over in Henderson on US60 just before turning onto Wathen Lane. They have the place marked where the bridge will be going over the road there. The bridge will be built about a mile to the east of the Twin Bridges and just to the west of the confluence of the Green River into the Ohio River.
Thanks, great info!
I bet I-69 in Arkansas will be completed before Tennessee even gets halfway finished. The interstate-grade parts of US 51 in Tennessee are very nice, though.
Also, I agree with I-22 replacing the southern leg of I-269; of course, I'd rather I-30 be routed that way (splitting off of the new I-57 extension at Hope, AR, along US-278 towards Warren/Monticello to follow I-69).
Will be interesting to see which is done first!
I don't see where I-22 should be a part of I-69. I- 22 follows old route 78 between Memphis and Birmingham and there is a section between I-240 and the state line that is rather difficult to bring up to freeway standards because that section of Lamar (78) is heavily industrialized. There are some short segments that are done, but several miles still have intersections at grade and unlimited access between intersections. I-22 is complete between the Mississippi line and Birmingham.
@@swinde Since I-22 abruptly ends at 269, it could be extended along 269 to the interchange in Southaven, giving it two complete termini.
@@swinde the I22 designation ends at 269. If they were planning to keep it that way, seems they could have signed 269 as 22 from 22’s end to 55. 269 is a new road anyway, not like they’re changing something entrenched.
@@ControlCityFreak By that logic, they should have signed I-695 as I-70 in Baltimore from its end to I-95.
My Control Cities
South
Henderson
Nashville/Memphis ,(as this 8sbthe route to both places
Little Rock/ Shreveport
Houston (it seems toe at the state Line, that there would need to be an intermediate large city like Dallas) this is like coming into CA from OR on I-5 and getting Los Angeles as a destination when of course CA does give some intermediate cities (Sacramento, Stockton, and Tracy) and some large secondary and tertiary colors as control destinations (Santa Ana and Redding come to mind here,).
North
Little Rock
Memphis/Nashville
Henderson
Evansville
Indianapolis
Fort Wayne
Grand Rapids
Sarnia, Ont. (Canada
On the CONCURRENT SEGMENTS, THEY SHOULD DOUBLE SIGN THE CONCURRENT LEGS with 55, 240, 40, etc. Like in Indiana, I-69 is theoretically I-74 and ai-465;as well as several US and Indiana State Highws.
As to Texas, there are 5 segments
The Sten coming down from Arkansas', and three branches, 69E To Brownsville, 69C (which is probably the main line, and 69W to Laredo. I don't know which border crossing 69C will go to but ai suspect they will connect to I-2.
On the I-24 Concurrency, Since 24 defaults into 57 North, I would give Carbondale or Effingham or both as control destinations. Tennessee for some reason prefers to sign Cairo instead of Carbondale.
Instead of Sarnia, I'd say Toronto. Also, why this signage? This isn't useful to anyone who is traveling on this road. I'd suggest this:
(NORTH): Houston, Texarkana/Shreveport, Shreveport, Memphis, Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Lansing, Flint, Toronto
(SOUTH): Flint, Lansing, Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Evansville, Memphis, Shreveport, Houston, Laredo/McAllen/Corpus Christi
That's all you need.
They just need some flyovers at that cloverleaf with I-55 and I-269 in Mississippi
True. Do the same thing as Kentucky did and all good
@@ControlCityFreak yeah
Very Nice
Can you do I-275 Michigan? That freeway has the worst Control City lineup. When it exits from I-75 near Monroe it’s signed for Flint even though it doesn’t go anywhere near Flint, only I-75 does. Plus, it gets co-signed with I-96 up to I-696, a weird co-signage.
I-275’s main control cities should be Ann Arbor and Lansing instead as it’s signed along I-96 in Livonia, and it has an exit for M-14 which goes to Ann Arbor.
I-275’s sole southbound control city (Toledo, Ohio) is fine but it’s northbound ones are wrong.
You should also look into I-196 too. It’s southern segment doesn’t have Chicago as a control city even though it ends at I-94 which goes to Chicago.
Will look into 275. Will almost certainly do 196 at some point, I was on it a few times as a kid and the interchange in Grand Rapids is pretty awesome
I thought the "C" suffix won't apply until I-69 reaches southern Texas.
It won't.
I was confused too. I thought he was going to talk about that I-69C in South Texas also.
I-69 is like CKC 110 on steroids.
Here is how I'd sign the control cities:
(SOUTH): Memphis, Shreveport, Houston
(NORTH): Texarkana/Shreveport, Shreveport, Memphis, Indianapolis
Note: The Texarkana is for I-69W or I-369.
Oh yeah that’s good
Past Houston the control cities should be Laredo/McAllen/Brownsville, then Laredo, McAllen, and Brownsville for each branch.
@@edwardmiessner6502 Exactly.
I don't know why I-69 should go through Downtown Memphis when it could have been routed around the outer beltway that's now designated I-269, and US-51 north of I-40/240 could have been numbered I-369.
That is what is happening. CCF doesn’t know that since he’s only doing this from afar and griping about everything
Yeah outer beltway would make sense.
Good to see my street (Watkins St) mentioned at the exit
Lol. I should have pointed out Todd Creek on I-29
two weeks until i-70 LOL
I'm ready for a pullthrough in Limon, CO telling us where Cape Girardeau, MO is
@@darknessnight1115 So random lol.
are they even building I 69 in Arkansas
I definitely appreciate the Cliff Clavin reference
Cheers!
@@ControlCityFreak The Jeopardy episode.
bruh that was Arkansas at 5:16
Interstate 69, dudes! Yeah!!
A couple of questions number one how did you find out about the I 68 hype and number two at 2.38k subs can you do I 238 since it is practically like a 2di
Haha doing 238 would be awesome, can do. I know about 68 hype because I’ve driven in that area a lot
@@ControlCityFreak You should also do I-155 in Missouri and Tennessee. One of the roads to nowhere.
@The Road Dogs 2 There is already a 780 in CA.
@The Road Dogs 2 There's a 980 too. In Oakland. So is every other x80. How about we rename it to 580B.
I-70 the way it should be WB: Pittsburgh, Wheeling, Columbus, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Grand Junction, Las Vegas. EB: Denver, Kansas City, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Columbus, Wheeling, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg (PA Turnpike portion), Baltimore / Washington. At least that's my opinion.
Gotta include Dayton OH
@@ericalbright4943 I'd include it westbound, but not eastbound.
You forgot Dayton going westbound.
I don’t think mine will be too far off that
I-80 the way it should be:
(WEST): Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Des Moines, Omaha, Lincoln, Denver, Cheyenne, Salt Lake City, Reno, Sacramento, San Francisco
(EAST): Sacramento, Reno, Salt Lake City, Cheyenne, Omaha, Des Moines, Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Youngstown, New York
I-90 the way it should be:
(WEST): Worcester, Springfield, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Erie, Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Rockford, Madison, Rochester, Sioux Falls, Rapid City, Billings, Bozeman, Butte, Missoula, Spokane, Seattle
(EAST): Spokane, Billings, Sioux Falls, Rochester, Madison, Rockford/Chicago, Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Boston
I-95 the way it should be:
(NORTH): Jacksonville, Savannah, Fayetteville, Richmond, Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Bridgeport, New Haven, Boston, Portland, Lewiston, Augusta, Bangor, Houlton, Woodstock
(SOUTH): Boston, Providence, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, Richmond, Fayetteville, Savannah, Jacksonville, Miami
I-75 the way it should be:
(NORTH): Tampa, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Lexington, Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Sault Ste. Marie
(SOUTH): Detroit, Toledo, Cincinnati, Lexington, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, Macon, Tampa, Miami
I can bet on it that it won't be Indianapolis from Memphis when I-69 is complete. I would even bet it wouldn't be Evansville it will likely be Dyersburg. Now Evansville I would think would replace Henderson in KY.
You’re probably right
True. Dyersburg is the junction with 155, so it makes a fine control city.
Evansville should be signed. It is a major city and hub for industry.
I’m ok with Evansville if that’s what they end up doing. Interstate junction too.
@@ControlCityFreak I'm ok with Evansville southbound, but not northbound.
I’ve followed that section of I-69 multiple times but the longest interstate spur is I-476 130 mile + spur
As I read the comments, I’m starting to be convinced that the best way to do it is 69E is 69, 69W is I-6, and 69C stays US 281
What are you gonna do after I-99
Some US Highways, 3 digit Interstates, international roads
Interstate H1! 😄
@@5roundsrapid263 Yeah that one for sure
@@ControlCityFreak and H2 and H3 I'm assuming.
The man has a face lol
If you had a better mic these videos would be way better
Cheers. Experimented with a couple, haven't found the best answer yet.
@@ControlCityFreak I recommend the Blue Yeti. Its a cheap, high quality mic that is super easy to use. Its a USB mic. All you need to do is plug it into your computer with a usb.
bruh thats a $150 mic. a simple lavaliere mic for $10 should do the trick nicely
@@signsandsymbols Its 100, not 150. And lavelier mics are trash and will break after 2 weeks.
Samson meteor mic, blue yeti and if you want a Bluetooth headset, Plantronics. One of those will sound much much better than what you have now and are either at or bellow $100.
limon
Lol
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