I think why San Francisco isn't sign in LA is because US 101 goes there. I've heard from some road geeks they rather take 101 instead of 5 to San Francisco.
The 101 is signed for Ventura from Los Angeles while the 5 is signed for Sacramento from Los Angeles. You'll see the Wheeler Ridge Interchange with the 99 in Kern County as the 5 signs for Sa Francisco and Sacramento which are good control cities. From the 101, after Ventura, it signs San Francisco all the way. I have a feeling that it should sign Santa Barbra before San Francisco.
This is why. The more coastal 101 route is just so much more scenic and tolerable and not thaaat much longer than the 5/580 route that Caltrans is suggesting you to go that way instead of taking the 5. It also helps relieve congestion on the 4 lane Westside freeway that has a bunch of truck traffic, and 101 can often be faster for this reason. I think the 101 should be signed for San Francisco as a primary from Downtown LA/East LA Interchange, maybe with "Central Coast/San Francisco", one of the few times Caltrans has made the right call.
this is exactly why. I know it can be argued 5/580 is longer, but they sign SF just past Ventura, so it's assumed Caltrans prefers that. I am perfectly fine with them signing Sacramento out of LA
@@CrystalClearWith8BEAs someone who’s driven on that stretch of the 101, some of the onramp signs do indeed say Santa Barbara, but Santa Barbara is also like 30 minutes away from Ventura, I went to college in San Luis Obispo (Cal Poly ‘22) so I was a frequent driver here, there is a couple 101 northbound signs that had San Luis Obispo AND San Francisco (when Highway 1 splits off after the Gaviota pass) and up in SLO there’s another 101 northbound sign that says Salinas AND San Francisco, while the 101 southbound sign there says Santa Barbara AND Los Angeles.
Great video Todd! I have a couple requests to make: I-11 (northbound): Exit 68 Tropicana Avenue: I've used this road to get to Excalibur from 515. I also wonder why all the state highways in Vegas are 3dis, and why most of them start with 5. I-275 (northbound): Exit 28 Gandy Boulevard: I've driven across the bay from here to go downtown from St Pete a few times. I hate how FDOT refuses to mention the Selmon Expressway or US 92, despite this being a quicker route into downtown than staying on 275. There's also no pull-through sign here. And it's bad for the state too since the Selmon Expressway is tolled.
@@ControlCityFreak May the best team win next week as a Saints fan. I’ll be happy to help you with any US 90 control city signage. By the way, Travis Kelce better get me fantasy football points in my league, I got Mahomes in another league.😊
As someone who knows a thing or two about driving semi trucks, I can tell you exactly why they have a separate truck route on “the 5” - trucks already struggle to climb out of LA (much less descend into LA without blowing their brakes out) on the truck route, I couldn’t imagine having a whole semi on the main line of 5. Going uphill you’d have traffic moving 20mph or less (my semi topped out at 40 on the truck route and it’s a 13 speed with a 14 liter Detroit powering it). Going downhill some idiot will descend wrong and kill a ton of people, imagine that incident on I-70 in CO a few years ago but worse. All it takes is a missed gear, improper use of a Jake brake, too much foot on the service brake, a trailer brake line snapping off, anything. That’s why there’s a truck route for I-5.
There used to be an overhead sign in North Seattle going northbound on I-5 for Everett & Vancouver BC (N 85th St exit). Probably either Seattle DOT or king County DOT removed it around 10 years ago. Also when you leave Everett (after US-2 junction) & before Marysville, there’s a mileage sign for Vancouver BC, 112 miles.
I look forward to southbound, if you do one. I also like that you focused a little more in Washington on this one, compared to your old one, where it seemed like you just wanted to get Washington over with and focused more on Oregon and California. LOL
My birthmom lives in Ferndale just north of Bellingham. I go from Se Tac to Ferndale every year, and yes, theres a sign, albeit not overhead that says Bellingham next 7 exits.
I think Santa Ana gets the control city treatment on the 5 due to it being the Santa Ana Freeway on that stretch. Also, Anaheim probably gets control city status on the 55 because while it only passes through a sliver of the city, that sliver is where Disneyland is. It's easily the best way of getting there.
No it's not, stay on the 5 to get to Disneyland unless traffic is really bad, and maybe 55-22-5 is faster. But that signage is awful unless they said "Anaheim Hills" instead of just Anaheim.
The 5/14 truck route has an interesting backstory. Prior to the construction of the main highway dating back to the 1960s, the truck route was originally the old highway alignment for US 99 and US 6 going over the Newhall Pass. This allowed CalTrans to keep traffic flowing through Weldon Canyon without being impacted by I-5's construction. Once Interstate 5 was completed CalTrans made the decision to move all automobile traffic over to the new alignment while keeping trucks on the old US 6/99 alignment, effectively utilizing two versions of highway over the same mountain pass. This proved to be a fortuitous decision in the aftermath of not 1, but 2 major earthquakes affecting the SoCal area: the 1971 Sylmar and 1994 Northridge earthquakes. I-5 was crippled as bridge overpasses collapsed during both quakes, effectively shutting down the highway in both directions. CalTrans solution in both cases was to divert all traffic to the old US 6/99 alignment (now truck route) and thereby was able to keep traffic flowing freely through the pass while the I-5 interchange was being rebuilt.
Thank you for showing my requests. I Should’ve mentioned this when I requested it, the canby one is a weird one. You would normally get off at exit 278 to go there if you are coming from the south. But it’s only signed there so I went with requesting that exit.
First exit request ever and it's for the Oops! All Requests episode (as I am calling it). Asking for exit 53 (Butler Blvd) on I-295 in Jacksonville, Florida! (My name is pronounced KEE-rah SPRAYG by the way ^-^) When I went to college for my bachelor's degree I would take this interchange all the time - if you look at it from satellite images pre-2020 it looks really nice.
Theres a lot of Jersey barrier in SoCal😂 I will say I'm not sure of signing Portland from so far away, I'd give some love to Redding, Medford, and Eugene
Just north of hwy 20 for Albany in Oregon is the first time Seattle gets signed on I-5 . 224 miles. I remember thinking that was so cooll when I saw it as a kid
My Way It Should Be: -San Diego -Los Angeles (until I-405) -Anaheim/Los Angeles -Los Angeles -San Francisco (until CA-99) -San Francisco/Sacramento (until I-580) -Stockton/Sacramento -Sacramento -Redding/Portland -Portland (until OR) -Medford* -Eugene* -Salem/Portland -Portland -Seattle (until WA) -Olympia/Seattle -Seattle -Vancouver BC *Portland would still be on the bottom line on mileage signs.
These are Exit requests for the All exit video. I hope I'm not too late, i apologize if i am. My exits are all on I-79 in PA and WV #1: Can you show I-79, Exit 60 In PA For Crafton? It's the way I always take when i return from Myrtle #2: Can you show I-79 Exit 73 In PA For Wexford? Because when i travel to Erie, and i go past this exit idk why i get hyped, probably because the speed limit jumps from 55 to 65 suddenly. Finally #3: Can you show I-79 Exit 57 In WV, U.S. 19 Beckley. Because it's a nice beautiful road, and i travel it going to Myrtle
This will be a long comment, mainly because of how I structured my two (yes two!) lists. The first list is where I suggest overhead signs be placed. The very next metro area is what will occupy the sign; secondaries may be present if there is a micropolitan area prior to the most immediate metro. If a metro area is immediately ahead (to where it could justifiably be alone on an overhead), but another one with more than double the population is less than 100 miles beyond (no other metro areas in between the two, however), then the immediate metro stands in as a secondary. List two is my idealized formula for mileage signs, inspired by mileage sign features that I’ve seen and really liked during my prior road trips across the U.S. (and Canada). I 75 southbound in Northern Florida has mileage signs standard for most of America, but almost immediately after are additional mileage signs to destinations off of 75 (Orlando via FLTP and St. Petersburg via 275). They are represented in my list as being followed by a (SHIELD) indicating the route needed to access said control. This is mainly found at Y shaped freeway interchanges (I don’t do this for t shaped ones), but will also be found whenever a concurrency ends (federal or state level). Also, some mileage signs will have FOUR lines instead of three; this was inspired by BC 1 (Trans Canada Highway) through the Fraser Canyon between the Lower Mainland and the Southern Interior having TWO primary control city options. Namely, Kamloops for BC 1 E (and following a concurrency with BC 97 S) and Prince George for BC 97 N at the west end of the aforementioned concurrency (BC 1 turns off of itself at the end of this concurrency). | indicates a new line in the mileage sign; (sometimes V), X, Y and Z will be the applicable distance in the proper units (* if there’s a change in units). Exit 1A: I 5 N San Diego Exit 13A: I 5 N Anaheim/Los Angeles Exit 113C: I 5 N Los Angeles Exit 134A: I 5 N/I 10 E Stockton/San Bernardino Exit 135C: I 5 N Bakersfield/Stockton Exit 221: I 5 N Stockton/San Francisco Exit 446: I 5 N Stockton/Sacramento Exit 471: I 5 N/CA 4 E Sacramento/Angels Camp Exit 472: I 5 N Sacramento Exit 518: I 5 N/CA 99 N Redding/Yuba City Exit 525B: I 5 N Red Bluff/Redding Exit 647: I 5 N Redding Exit 678: I 5 N Medford Exit 27: I 5 N Grants Pass/Eugene Exit 55: I 5 N Roseburg/Eugene Exit 124: I 5 N Eugene Exit 192: I 5 N Albany/Salem Exit 233: I 5 N Salem/Portland Exit 253: I 5 N Portland Exit 294: I 5 N Longview/Olympia Exit 36: I 5 N Centralia/Olympia Exit 83: I 5 N/US 12 W Olympia/Aberdeen Exit 88: I 5 N Olympia/Seattle Exit 111: I 5 N Tacoma/Seattle Exit 132: I 5 N Seattle Exit 164A: I 5 Everett/Mount Vernon Exit 189: I 5 Mount Vernon Exit 226: I 5 N Bellingham/Vancouver BC Exit 250: I 5 N Vancouver BC Exit 1A-Exit 11B: Tertiary V| Secondary X | San Diego Y | Riverside (CA 15 N) Z Exit 11B-Exit 54A: Tertiary V | Secondary X | Anaheim Y | Los Angeles Z Exit 54C-Exit 95: Tertiary V | Anaheim X | Riverside (CA 133 N) Y | Los Angeles Z Exit 95-Exit 107C: Tertiary X | Anaheim Y | Los Angeles Z Exit 109-Exit 131: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Los Angeles Z Exit 132-135C: Thousand Oaks (U.S. 101 N) X | San Bernardino (I 10 E) Y | Stockton Z Exit 135C-Exit 162: Tertiary V | Bishop (CA 14 N) X | Stockton Y | San Francisco (I 580 W) Z Exit 162-Exit 221: Tertiary V | Bakersfield (CA 99 N) X | Stockton Y | San Francisco (I 580 W) Z Exit 221-Exit 446: Tertiary V | Stockton X | Sacramento Y | San Francisco (I 580 W) Z Exit 446-Exit 461: Tertiary V | Stockton X | Sacramento Y | Sonora (CA 120 E) Z Exit 461-Exit 471: Tertiary X | Stockton Y | Sacramento Z Exit 471-Exit 472: Tertiary X | Sacramento Y | Angels Camp (CA 4 E) Z Exit 472-Exit 508: Tertiary V | Sacramento X | Yuba City (CA 99 N) Y | Redding Z Exit 508-Exit 525B: Tertiary V | Yuba City (CA 99 N) X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z Exit 525B-Exit 536: Woodland X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z Exit 536-Exit 538: Tertiary V | Yuba City (CA 113 N) X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z Exit 538-Exit 647: Tertiary X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z Exit 647-Exit 675: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Redding Z Exit 675-Exit 27: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Medford Z Exit 27-Exit 55: Tertiary X | Grants Pass Y | Eugene Z Exit 55-Exit 124: Tertiary X | Roseburg Y | Eugene Z Exit 124-Exit 191: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Eugene Z Exit 191-Exit 233: Tertiary X | Albany Y | Salem Z Exit 233-Exit 249: Tertiary X | Salem Y | Portland Z Exit 249-Exit 294: Tertiary V | Secondary X| Portland Y | Boise (I 84 E) Z Exit 294-Exit 300: Tertiary V | Longview X | Olympia Y | Boise (I 84 E) Z Exit 300-Exit 302B: Longview X | Astoria (U.S. 30 W) Y | Olympia Z Exit 302B-Exit 36: Tertiary X | Longview Y | Olympia Z Exit 36-Exit 68: Tertiary X | Centralia Y | Olympia Z Exit 68-Exit 81: Tertiary V | Centralia X | Olympia Y | Aberdeen (U.S. 12 W) Z Exit 82-Exit 88: Tertiary V | Olympia X | Aberdeen (U.S. 12 W)Y | Seattle Z Exit 88-Exit 104: Tertiary V | Olympia X | Shelton (U.S. 101 N) Y | Seattle Z Exit 104-Exit 128: Tertiary V | Tacoma X | Bremerton (WA 16 W) Y | Seattle Z Exit 128-Exit 132: Tertiary X | Bremerton (WA 16 W) Y | Seattle Z Exit 132-Exit 161: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Seattle Z Exit 161-Exit 164A: Tertiary V | Everett X | Mount Vernon Y | Spokane (I 90 E) Z Exit 164A-Exit 189: Tertiary V | Everett X | Mount Vernon Y | Wenatchee (U.S. 2 E) Z Exit 189-Exit 194: Tertiary X | Mount Vernon Y | Wenatchee (U.S. 2 E) Z Exit 194-Exit 225: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Mount Vernon Z Exit 225-Exit 250: Tertiary V | Secondary X | Bellingham Y | Vancouver (BC 99 N) Z* Exit 250-Exit 276: Tertiary X | International Border Y | Vancouver (BC 99 N) Z*
Looks cool, but I think it needs some tweaking. Olympia and Salem are in the Seattle and Portland CSAs and have less than half the metro size, Stockton has about a third of Sacramento's metro size and is 48 miles away (and really should be in the same CSA). I think Stockton, Salem, and Olympia would need to be relegated to secondary under any reasonable system. Not signing Seattle until 88 miles beyond Portland doesn't make sense at all.
The statement said at 16:18 is very true here’s some towns I’ve seen signed off I5 in Oregon: (I5 north roseburg , south grants pass,) (I5 north Eugene south roseburg) (I5 north Albany south Eugene) (north Salem south Albany) (north grants pass south Medford or Ashland)
@@dvferyance That used to be US 61 before it got truncated back. Honestly they should have kept it as US 61 unless they’re gonna extend I-35, which ain’t happening.
@@stealthynoctowl6600 it’s kind of interesting how us 101 is signed as an east/west highway on the north end of the Olympic peninsula then after WA SR20 signed as a north/south highway going parallel with itself.
I can understand why I-5 isn't signed for Los Angeles at the 405 split, as both 5 and 405 go to different points in LA. So at that interchange, I'd sign I-5 for Downtown/Hollywood and I-405 for LAX/The Coast or some such.
@@ControlCityFreak correct. they sign the 110 for Los Angeles throughout the entire route from San Pedro, and it's the control city on the 405 and the 105 too - they definitely mean the east LA interchange. either way, one thing they *actually* do right is always signing downtown as "Los Angeles"
By the way, Todd. Between Sacramento and Portland, I'll sign I-5 north for Redding, then Medford, then Grants Pass, then Eugene and Portland, then Salem and Portland, and then Portland. For southbound I-5, from Portland, I'll sign Salem, then Eugene, then Grants Pass, then Medford, then Redding, then Sacramento.
According the the United States Census Bureau, the Inland Empire consists of Riverside and San Bernardino Counties and it counts as a metropolitan statistical area as part of the CSA of Greater Los Angeles. But, I'll consider the two namesake county seats as core cities of the Inland Empire.
2:573:083:36 For Caltrans Orange County District these should be Santa Ana Los Angeles. 3:36 in 2004 it had the correct one Los Angeles 11:55 Can be fixed to say San Francisco Reno Salt Lake City. Even better San Francisco Reno Ridgefield Park, NJ 5 fwy at this point would have been Redding Portland, OR
@@BFUS_official I'm not sure if he's gonna do that unless the Streetview he uses has 42 reassureance shields in it. and NCDOT itself is JUST adding the shields as it is.
Hot take - Eugene is a better control city than Springfield because Eugene is distinctly "Oregon" while there's a Springfield in almost every state (hence the Simpsons).
As nice as the scenery is, I greatly dislike driving on I-5 between Redding and Eugene. Lots of traffic, especially trucks, on a long, windy, and hilly section of interstate. Whenever I drive to the Bay Area from Seattle, I prefer to use 101 from Grants Pass via 199 or from Cottage Grove via OR-38 to Reedsport. Also there's an In N Out at that OR-99 exit in Grants Pass, so I almost always stop there if I'm going that way.
Corona has a population of 159,770 according to Google. That is Worth listing it as a control city The Red Line is a special event service from Balboa Avenue to Petco Park. The regular service as you mentioned is the Blue Line slso known as the UCSD BLUE LINE.
159,000 clears in Nebraska, but there's more to control cities than population. Corona is the 18th largest city in the LA CSA. It's fine as a secondary at the 15/215 split but has no business being signed in San Diego.
@@ControlCityFreakIt's because of the junction with CA-91 in Corona, not because of Corona itself. I-15/CA-91 is a major junction, as it connects to the 15 to OC, LA Beaches, as well as to points in Western IE and Eastern LA county such as Pomona via CA-71. 15-91-71 is a major route. I've taken 15 to 91 more often than just staying on the 15 because most IE cities are more accessible from the 215.
6:00 SoCal definitely will NEVER sign an Arizona city as a control for either the 8 out of San Diego, or the 10 out of Los Angeles. especially one that is 350+ miles away from LA. I mean .... the 15 isn't even signed for Las Vegas until AFTER the 15/40 interchange (except for ONE sign on 10 EAST right at that interchange), and the 40 is signed for Needles at that 15/40 interchange. also .... until about 20-25 years ago, Phoenix (and Las Vegas too, for that matter) were not the massive population points that they are now. of course, California defectors have a LOT to do with that 😂😂😂 but that is besides the point ....
I believe what's worse is they even got rid of the LV sign on 10 East, which is insulting. 8 should truly be Tuscon and 10 for Phoenix as we all know, but for some reason SoCal is so against that signage, even though they'll do the crazy signs for Portland and Salt Lake
@@ryannichols2046 I can KINDA understand not signing Tucson on I-8 out of SD cuz Tucson isn't THAT big of a population draw (from SoCal's perspective) to be worth signing from 300+ miles away. and where does CalTrans sign Salt Lake? 🤔🤔 Northern Cal DOES sign Portland on the 5 out of Sacramento ... but Northern Cal does things pretty different than Southern Cal, hence why I specifically called out SoCal 😂😂
@@ControlCityFreak exactly .... SoCal doesn't even sign LA on the northbound 5 out of SD, and there's like six miles of separation between the SD and LA metros 😂
@@ControlCityFreak I’d be happy to help out with rebooting I-10. I might consider keeping Lake Charles as a control city after Beaumont. From New Orleans, instead of Slidell, sign Biloxi. In Mississippi and Alabama, Biloxi/Mobile, then Mobile, Pensacola, Tallahassee, and Jacksonville all the way. Problem solved.
Vegas is also more likely to be getting long distance traffic on 10 East too...but I am all in on it being Phoenix personally. especially since it's LA out of downtown Phoenix!
The 5 is signed for Santa Ana because the 5 is called the "Santa Ana Freeway" from Los Angeles to Irvine. The 405 is officially the San Diego Freeway, even in West L.A. The 10 east of L.A. is the "San Bernardino Freeway." The 10 west of L.A. is the Santa Monica Freeway. The 710 is the Pasadena Freeway. Naturally one expects all these named Freeways to take you to where they are named and they do. This is all historical, because the original L.A. freeway system predates the Interstate highway system by over a decade.
They won't sign concurrencies this way because concurrencies don't exist in California. They did this to simplify the highway system and whichever highway is more dominant/important is the one that gets the mileage, and the other one is officially split into two segments.
@@mxderateprodyeah, I'm guessing each DOT region in California does whatever. Signing Los Angeles from San Diego then suddenly Santa Ana out of nowhere when coming into Orange County. Which would indicate San Diego and Orange counties being separate DOT regions.
That was my theory, but the SD region of Caltrans must include San Clemente as well since San Clemente signs LA, and the Santa Ana signs start immediately past the San Clemente line.
Infatuation with signing Ludlow which is by far the smallest signed control city. Ludlow gets the meme along with the Deming/Lordsburg, Delaware Water Gap, East Saint Louis, and a few other lousy sign choices like "other Desert Cities". I-15 does not go to Riverside, it does go right through Downtown Corona, and Corona is what should be on overhead signage leaving San Diego. Riverside belongs to I-215 (former US-395, the "Escondido Freeway". On 15, because it is the Escondido Freeway Escondido Rancho California Corona Rancho Cucamonga Barstow Las Vegas Denver Salt Lake Ogden Portland/Seattle until the I-86 split Pocatello, Butte Helena Shelby Lethbridge, AB
@@ControlCityFreak I just checked and Orange County is its own district within Caltrans. San Clemente is at the extreme southern border so I'm guessing the Santa Ana signs start right after entering the county and there's likely exits for San Clemente on the San Diego county side.
Hi Control City Freak I look on google maps when I 10 joins up with I5 and it is 2 Interstates together I 10 and I 5 and for freeway entrance sings they only sign I5 not both together. I would of sign I 10 and I 5 freeway entrance
I think it should be this for I-5 northbound San Diego Los Angeles San Francisco/Sacramento(until I-580) Sacramento Portland Seattle Vancouver For I-5 southbound Seattle Portland San Francisco/Sacramento(until I-505) Sacramento Los Angeles San Francisco/Los Angeles(Stockton to I-205) Los Angeles San Diego Tijuana
The Canby exit is weird. The road you exit on to is not the road to Canby: you have to do a 180 degree turn onto Oregon State Highway 551. They sign it like that because I-5 South has a direct movement to Highway 551, signed for Canby. Canby is home to the Clackamas County Fairgrounds, hence the importance to sign it.
I would go 5 North Downtown San Diego Anaheim East Los Angeles Valencia Bakersfield After the 99 Oakland/San Francisco From Tracy Stockton Sacramento Redding Eugene/Salem As r approaches Eugene Salem then Portland In Portland Olympia Tacoma/Seattle Everett Vancouver, BC
Corona is a better control city for I-15 from SD and as I pointed out, it is known as the Escondido Freeway from I-8 through its junction with I-215. My signage idea as to random interchanges should be Escondido and at Via Rancho Parkway - go to Corona/Perris" (as you actually pass through the east edge of downtown Perris), I-15 North From I-5 - Escondido Corona & Perris/San Bernardinoo Rancho Cucamonga Devore & Barstow Then Barstow & Kingman Then Primm & Las Vegas Valley Mesquite Saint George Denver / Salt Lake / AIRPORT / Reno Then Salt Lake / Salt Lake Airport / Reno - Ogden Portland / Seattle then Pocatello/Chubbuck, then I'm twin Falls, then Butte - Helena/Bozeman, Shelby, then Lethbridge, AB SB Shelby Helena Butte/Seattle Twin Falls Pocatello/Portland Ogden/Cheyenne SLC Airport Salt Lake/Provo/Cheyenne/Las Vegas Saint George/Mesquite Las Vegas Valley & Primm Primm & Barstow From Baker Bakersfield/Devore/Rancho Cucamonga San Bernardino/Riverside (Riverside makes more operational sense southbound) Beaumont/Perris Perris 215 from Perris: & 15 from Corona: Escondido 15 from Rancho Cucamonga: Corona From Escondidoo "San Diego/32nd Street Naval Station/National City"
This is wrong. I-15 N Control Cities Escondido Corona/Riverside Corona (from I-215 jct) Barstow/Las Vegas Las Vegas Salt Lake City Twin Falls Helena Canada no reason to complicate it
I-15 S Control Cities Helena Idaho Falls Salt Lake City Las Vegas Los Angeles/San Bernardino Corona (from I-215 split) San Diego Tijuana (don't sign San Diego at the 15/215 split because it's almost always faster to take 215 to San Diego, less traffic and it's shorter)
I think why San Francisco isn't sign in LA is because US 101 goes there. I've heard from some road geeks they rather take 101 instead of 5 to San Francisco.
The 101 is signed for Ventura from Los Angeles while the 5 is signed for Sacramento from Los Angeles. You'll see the Wheeler Ridge Interchange with the 99 in Kern County as the 5 signs for Sa Francisco and Sacramento which are good control cities. From the 101, after Ventura, it signs San Francisco all the way. I have a feeling that it should sign Santa Barbra before San Francisco.
This is why. The more coastal 101 route is just so much more scenic and tolerable and not thaaat much longer than the 5/580 route that Caltrans is suggesting you to go that way instead of taking the 5. It also helps relieve congestion on the 4 lane Westside freeway that has a bunch of truck traffic, and 101 can often be faster for this reason. I think the 101 should be signed for San Francisco as a primary from Downtown LA/East LA Interchange, maybe with "Central Coast/San Francisco", one of the few times Caltrans has made the right call.
this is exactly why. I know it can be argued 5/580 is longer, but they sign SF just past Ventura, so it's assumed Caltrans prefers that. I am perfectly fine with them signing Sacramento out of LA
@@CrystalClearWith8BEAs someone who’s driven on that stretch of the 101, some of the onramp signs do indeed say Santa Barbara, but Santa Barbara is also like 30 minutes away from Ventura, I went to college in San Luis Obispo (Cal Poly ‘22) so I was a frequent driver here, there is a couple 101 northbound signs that had San Luis Obispo AND San Francisco (when Highway 1 splits off after the Gaviota pass) and up in SLO there’s another 101 northbound sign that says Salinas AND San Francisco, while the 101 southbound sign there says Santa Barbara AND Los Angeles.
Great video Todd! I have a couple requests to make:
I-11 (northbound): Exit 68 Tropicana Avenue: I've used this road to get to Excalibur from 515. I also wonder why all the state highways in Vegas are 3dis, and why most of them start with 5.
I-275 (northbound): Exit 28 Gandy Boulevard: I've driven across the bay from here to go downtown from St Pete a few times. I hate how FDOT refuses to mention the Selmon Expressway or US 92, despite this being a quicker route into downtown than staying on 275. There's also no pull-through sign here. And it's bad for the state too since the Selmon Expressway is tolled.
Thanks, you got em!
The longest distance to a signed control city is on I-10 WB in Orange TX after exit 877: Beaumont 23, El Paso 857.
That’s a novelty sign tho
@@ControlCityFreak May the best team win next week as a Saints fan. I’ll be happy to help you with any US 90 control city signage. By the way, Travis Kelce better get me fantasy football points in my league, I got Mahomes in another league.😊
It's a novelty sign because the big city of San Antonio is in between them
@@michaelchristop2000 So is Houston
I thought it was interstate 40 East to Wilmington, NC, 2554 miles
How about doing one on US 97, and continuing into BC onto Highway 97 all the way up to the Yukon border? It's suppose to have some epic scenery.
As someone who knows a thing or two about driving semi trucks, I can tell you exactly why they have a separate truck route on “the 5” - trucks already struggle to climb out of LA (much less descend into LA without blowing their brakes out) on the truck route, I couldn’t imagine having a whole semi on the main line of 5.
Going uphill you’d have traffic moving 20mph or less (my semi topped out at 40 on the truck route and it’s a 13 speed with a 14 liter Detroit powering it). Going downhill some idiot will descend wrong and kill a ton of people, imagine that incident on I-70 in CO a few years ago but worse. All it takes is a missed gear, improper use of a Jake brake, too much foot on the service brake, a trailer brake line snapping off, anything. That’s why there’s a truck route for I-5.
Well said
There used to be an overhead sign in North Seattle going northbound on I-5 for Everett & Vancouver BC (N 85th St exit). Probably either Seattle DOT or king County DOT removed it around 10 years ago.
Also when you leave Everett (after US-2 junction) & before Marysville, there’s a mileage sign for Vancouver BC, 112 miles.
I look forward to southbound, if you do one. I also like that you focused a little more in Washington on this one, compared to your old one, where it seemed like you just wanted to get Washington over with and focused more on Oregon and California. LOL
Ah, the good old days, when I tried to keep every video under 10 minutes.
Looking forward to US 90 eastbound next week then the week after looking forward to watching the All-Request Show they both should be awesome!!
Goes through my home state.
My birthmom lives in Ferndale just north of Bellingham. I go from Se Tac to Ferndale every year, and yes, theres a sign, albeit not overhead that says Bellingham next 7 exits.
I think Santa Ana gets the control city treatment on the 5 due to it being the Santa Ana Freeway on that stretch. Also, Anaheim probably gets control city status on the 55 because while it only passes through a sliver of the city, that sliver is where Disneyland is. It's easily the best way of getting there.
No it's not, stay on the 5 to get to Disneyland unless traffic is really bad, and maybe 55-22-5 is faster. But that signage is awful unless they said "Anaheim Hills" instead of just Anaheim.
The 5/14 truck route has an interesting backstory. Prior to the construction of the main highway dating back to the 1960s, the truck route was originally the old highway alignment for US 99 and US 6 going over the Newhall Pass. This allowed CalTrans to keep traffic flowing through Weldon Canyon without being impacted by I-5's construction. Once Interstate 5 was completed CalTrans made the decision to move all automobile traffic over to the new alignment while keeping trucks on the old US 6/99 alignment, effectively utilizing two versions of highway over the same mountain pass. This proved to be a fortuitous decision in the aftermath of not 1, but 2 major earthquakes affecting the SoCal area: the 1971 Sylmar and 1994 Northridge earthquakes. I-5 was crippled as bridge overpasses collapsed during both quakes, effectively shutting down the highway in both directions. CalTrans solution in both cases was to divert all traffic to the old US 6/99 alignment (now truck route) and thereby was able to keep traffic flowing freely through the pass while the I-5 interchange was being rebuilt.
Awesome!
I just drove from San Diego to Los Angeles yesterday on I-5, and yeah gotta admit going for Santa Ana is terrible… even tho I also took 405
Hey, Todd! I know you usually upload videos every Thursday. I'm surprised you uploaded it this Wednesday. Finally, your reboot of I-5!
Hey bro! Sorry to say this but I wanted to promote #ShiftToRail for our country
Thank you for showing my requests. I Should’ve mentioned this when I requested it, the canby one is a weird one. You would normally get off at exit 278 to go there if you are coming from the south. But it’s only signed there so I went with requesting that exit.
I live in Canby too. Cool to see. Also nice getting CCF to shout out the horrid traffic on 217. Even worse with the construction.
Always appreciate an early video!
Interstate 5 is one of my bucket list roads
Pamela Courson came from weed
First exit request ever and it's for the Oops! All Requests episode (as I am calling it).
Asking for exit 53 (Butler Blvd) on I-295 in Jacksonville, Florida! (My name is pronounced KEE-rah SPRAYG by the way ^-^)
When I went to college for my bachelor's degree I would take this interchange all the time - if you look at it from satellite images pre-2020 it looks really nice.
Thanks, you got it!
I'm not sure if majority of the I-10 East traffic in the LA area is going to Phoenix.
Then why did CalTrans sign San Bernardino? Because it's a notable city in the Inland Empire. I'd rather sign Phoenix from San Bernardino
@CrystalClearWith8BE I agree. From San Bernardino, it should be signed Palm Springs and Phoenix, in my opinion
It's nice to see some remakes of older videos.
Hey, for the upcoming I-11 video can you please show the exit for I-215?
Thanks, you got it!
Theres a lot of Jersey barrier in SoCal😂
I will say I'm not sure of signing Portland from so far away, I'd give some love to Redding, Medford, and Eugene
I like seeing your hair and beard become more gray during each subsequent episode.
What Limon does to a man.
He's in his late 40's/early 50's so ofc his hair is gray
How dare you
@@ControlCityFreak You still look fantastic. You are the only "control city" host that I am subscribed. I might have to donate to your Patreon.
@@andrewdevore4799 I shaved my head. No more gray.
This video was just... A minor threat 🤘
Looking forward to a future US 20 video, I’ve got a bunch of requests for the Cleveland area!
Just north of hwy 20 for Albany in Oregon is the first time Seattle gets signed on I-5 . 224 miles. I remember thinking that was so cooll when I saw it as a kid
I find it interesting how you do I 5 for the Chargers game, considering the Chargers play in LA now but used to play in San Diego
true heads acknowledge them as an SD team still
Great reboot!
Not expecting it today
Haha I wasn’t either
You can see on the signs where CalDot decided to change all those LA signs to Santa Ana.
Just a quick thought, it would be cool/interesting if they made a northeast/southeast etc designation for more diagonal roads like 26, 85, 82, 24, etc
A Wednesday video? I thought I had my days mixed up for a minute. 😂
Nope just me lol
My Way It Should Be:
-San Diego
-Los Angeles (until I-405)
-Anaheim/Los Angeles
-Los Angeles
-San Francisco (until CA-99)
-San Francisco/Sacramento (until I-580)
-Stockton/Sacramento
-Sacramento
-Redding/Portland
-Portland (until OR)
-Medford*
-Eugene*
-Salem/Portland
-Portland
-Seattle (until WA)
-Olympia/Seattle
-Seattle
-Vancouver BC
*Portland would still be on the bottom line on mileage signs.
10 in LA should be 10 East Palm Springs/Coachella Valley
Agreed, no Phoenix until at least San Bernardino
These are Exit requests for the All exit video. I hope I'm not too late, i apologize if i am.
My exits are all on I-79 in PA and WV
#1: Can you show I-79, Exit 60 In PA For Crafton? It's the way I always take when i return from Myrtle
#2: Can you show I-79 Exit 73 In PA For Wexford? Because when i travel to Erie, and i go past this exit idk why i get hyped, probably because the speed limit jumps from 55 to 65 suddenly.
Finally #3: Can you show I-79 Exit 57 In WV, U.S. 19 Beckley. Because it's a nice beautiful road, and i travel it going to Myrtle
Thanks, you got it!
There is a drawbridge on I-280 between Newark & Harrison NJ.
Everywhere I look, something reminds me of her.
22:50 I’m a big fan of Neko Case - she has a song called “South Tacoma Way”.
1:23 The Chargers belong in San Diego.
Truth
This will be a long comment, mainly because of how I structured my two (yes two!) lists. The first list is where I suggest overhead signs be placed. The very next metro area is what will occupy the sign; secondaries may be present if there is a micropolitan area prior to the most immediate metro. If a metro area is immediately ahead (to where it could justifiably be alone on an overhead), but another one with more than double the population is less than 100 miles beyond (no other metro areas in between the two, however), then the immediate metro stands in as a secondary.
List two is my idealized formula for mileage signs, inspired by mileage sign features that I’ve seen and really liked during my prior road trips across the U.S. (and Canada). I 75 southbound in Northern Florida has mileage signs standard for most of America, but almost immediately after are additional mileage signs to destinations off of 75 (Orlando via FLTP and St. Petersburg via 275). They are represented in my list as being followed by a (SHIELD) indicating the route needed to access said control. This is mainly found at Y shaped freeway interchanges (I don’t do this for t shaped ones), but will also be found whenever a concurrency ends (federal or state level). Also, some mileage signs will have FOUR lines instead of three; this was inspired by BC 1 (Trans Canada Highway) through the Fraser Canyon between the Lower Mainland and the Southern Interior having TWO primary control city options. Namely, Kamloops for BC 1 E (and following a concurrency with BC 97 S) and Prince George for BC 97 N at the west end of the aforementioned concurrency (BC 1 turns off of itself at the end of this concurrency). | indicates a new line in the mileage sign; (sometimes V), X, Y and Z will be the applicable distance in the proper units (* if there’s a change in units).
Exit 1A: I 5 N San Diego
Exit 13A: I 5 N Anaheim/Los Angeles
Exit 113C: I 5 N Los Angeles
Exit 134A: I 5 N/I 10 E Stockton/San Bernardino
Exit 135C: I 5 N Bakersfield/Stockton
Exit 221: I 5 N Stockton/San Francisco
Exit 446: I 5 N Stockton/Sacramento
Exit 471: I 5 N/CA 4 E Sacramento/Angels Camp
Exit 472: I 5 N Sacramento
Exit 518: I 5 N/CA 99 N Redding/Yuba City
Exit 525B: I 5 N Red Bluff/Redding
Exit 647: I 5 N Redding
Exit 678: I 5 N Medford
Exit 27: I 5 N Grants Pass/Eugene
Exit 55: I 5 N Roseburg/Eugene
Exit 124: I 5 N Eugene
Exit 192: I 5 N Albany/Salem
Exit 233: I 5 N Salem/Portland
Exit 253: I 5 N Portland
Exit 294: I 5 N Longview/Olympia
Exit 36: I 5 N Centralia/Olympia
Exit 83: I 5 N/US 12 W Olympia/Aberdeen
Exit 88: I 5 N Olympia/Seattle
Exit 111: I 5 N Tacoma/Seattle
Exit 132: I 5 N Seattle
Exit 164A: I 5 Everett/Mount Vernon
Exit 189: I 5 Mount Vernon
Exit 226: I 5 N Bellingham/Vancouver BC
Exit 250: I 5 N Vancouver BC
Exit 1A-Exit 11B: Tertiary V| Secondary X | San Diego Y | Riverside (CA 15 N) Z
Exit 11B-Exit 54A: Tertiary V | Secondary X | Anaheim Y | Los Angeles Z
Exit 54C-Exit 95: Tertiary V | Anaheim X | Riverside (CA 133 N) Y | Los Angeles Z
Exit 95-Exit 107C: Tertiary X | Anaheim Y | Los Angeles Z
Exit 109-Exit 131: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Los Angeles Z
Exit 132-135C: Thousand Oaks (U.S. 101 N) X | San Bernardino (I 10 E) Y | Stockton Z
Exit 135C-Exit 162: Tertiary V | Bishop (CA 14 N) X | Stockton Y | San Francisco (I 580 W) Z
Exit 162-Exit 221: Tertiary V | Bakersfield (CA 99 N) X | Stockton Y | San Francisco (I 580 W) Z
Exit 221-Exit 446: Tertiary V | Stockton X | Sacramento Y | San Francisco (I 580 W) Z
Exit 446-Exit 461: Tertiary V | Stockton X | Sacramento Y | Sonora (CA 120 E) Z
Exit 461-Exit 471: Tertiary X | Stockton Y | Sacramento Z
Exit 471-Exit 472: Tertiary X | Sacramento Y | Angels Camp (CA 4 E) Z
Exit 472-Exit 508: Tertiary V | Sacramento X | Yuba City (CA 99 N) Y | Redding Z
Exit 508-Exit 525B: Tertiary V | Yuba City (CA 99 N) X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z
Exit 525B-Exit 536: Woodland X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z
Exit 536-Exit 538: Tertiary V | Yuba City (CA 113 N) X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z
Exit 538-Exit 647: Tertiary X | Red Bluff Y | Redding Z
Exit 647-Exit 675: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Redding Z
Exit 675-Exit 27: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Medford Z
Exit 27-Exit 55: Tertiary X | Grants Pass Y | Eugene Z
Exit 55-Exit 124: Tertiary X | Roseburg Y | Eugene Z
Exit 124-Exit 191: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Eugene Z
Exit 191-Exit 233: Tertiary X | Albany Y | Salem Z
Exit 233-Exit 249: Tertiary X | Salem Y | Portland Z
Exit 249-Exit 294: Tertiary V | Secondary X| Portland Y | Boise (I 84 E) Z
Exit 294-Exit 300: Tertiary V | Longview X | Olympia Y | Boise (I 84 E) Z
Exit 300-Exit 302B: Longview X | Astoria (U.S. 30 W) Y | Olympia Z
Exit 302B-Exit 36: Tertiary X | Longview Y | Olympia Z
Exit 36-Exit 68: Tertiary X | Centralia Y | Olympia Z
Exit 68-Exit 81: Tertiary V | Centralia X | Olympia Y | Aberdeen (U.S. 12 W) Z
Exit 82-Exit 88: Tertiary V | Olympia X | Aberdeen (U.S. 12 W)Y | Seattle Z
Exit 88-Exit 104: Tertiary V | Olympia X | Shelton (U.S. 101 N) Y | Seattle Z
Exit 104-Exit 128: Tertiary V | Tacoma X | Bremerton (WA 16 W) Y | Seattle Z
Exit 128-Exit 132: Tertiary X | Bremerton (WA 16 W) Y | Seattle Z
Exit 132-Exit 161: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Seattle Z
Exit 161-Exit 164A: Tertiary V | Everett X | Mount Vernon Y | Spokane (I 90 E) Z
Exit 164A-Exit 189: Tertiary V | Everett X | Mount Vernon Y | Wenatchee (U.S. 2 E) Z
Exit 189-Exit 194: Tertiary X | Mount Vernon Y | Wenatchee (U.S. 2 E) Z
Exit 194-Exit 225: Tertiary X | Secondary Y | Mount Vernon Z
Exit 225-Exit 250: Tertiary V | Secondary X | Bellingham Y | Vancouver (BC 99 N) Z*
Exit 250-Exit 276: Tertiary X | International Border Y | Vancouver (BC 99 N) Z*
Looks cool, but I think it needs some tweaking. Olympia and Salem are in the Seattle and Portland CSAs and have less than half the metro size, Stockton has about a third of Sacramento's metro size and is 48 miles away (and really should be in the same CSA). I think Stockton, Salem, and Olympia would need to be relegated to secondary under any reasonable system. Not signing Seattle until 88 miles beyond Portland doesn't make sense at all.
Is the mileage sign 14:28 or 4:20? 💀
The statement said at 16:18 is very true here’s some towns I’ve seen signed off I5 in Oregon: (I5 north roseburg , south grants pass,) (I5 north Eugene south roseburg) (I5 north Albany south Eugene) (north Salem south Albany) (north grants pass south Medford or Ashland)
69 will be border to border
In 2157
@@ControlCityFreakOh we’re all gonna be dead.
I wish 35 was but I get why north of Duluth 61 works fine.
@@dvferyance That used to be US 61 before it got truncated back. Honestly they should have kept it as US 61 unless they’re gonna extend I-35, which ain’t happening.
@@JayTheGreat_Gaming I know it was downgraded in 1991.
Request Missouri State Route 5
When I-5 meets U.S 101 its never going south and the first city of the sign ends in Angeles. Port Angeles and Los Angeles
@@stealthynoctowl6600 it’s kind of interesting how us 101 is signed as an east/west highway on the north end of the Olympic peninsula then after WA SR20 signed as a north/south highway going parallel with itself.
I can understand why I-5 isn't signed for Los Angeles at the 405 split, as both 5 and 405 go to different points in LA. So at that interchange, I'd sign I-5 for Downtown/Hollywood and I-405 for LAX/The Coast or some such.
When Caltrans signs LA they are always referring to the Four Level Interchange as the control point.
@@ControlCityFreak correct. they sign the 110 for Los Angeles throughout the entire route from San Pedro, and it's the control city on the 405 and the 105 too - they definitely mean the east LA interchange. either way, one thing they *actually* do right is always signing downtown as "Los Angeles"
You are way too far away to be signing Downtown LA as "Downtown" at the El Toro Y in Orange County. Just "Los Angeles" would suffice.
24:00 shhh don’t tell people Seattle secrets
15:01 Texas has entered the chat 😁
In the unlikely event that kU goes to a bowl, will you be covering a road in the place where the bowl is?
No. It will still be NFL season.
By the way, Todd. Between Sacramento and Portland, I'll sign I-5 north for Redding, then Medford, then Grants Pass, then Eugene and Portland, then Salem and Portland, and then Portland. For southbound I-5, from Portland, I'll sign Salem, then Eugene, then Grants Pass, then Medford, then Redding, then Sacramento.
It's not "the" 5 once you get out LA. It's either 5 or I5 throughout central California and all points north.
The Canby Exit should've said "To Oregon highway 99E " (as Canby is on that highway)
Exit 278 should be signed for Canby since that’s the one you would take if you are going there going north.
Ontario, Fontana, and Riverside are far enough away from L.A. that they are not considered to be in metro L.A.
According the the United States Census Bureau, the Inland Empire consists of Riverside and San Bernardino Counties and it counts as a metropolitan statistical area as part of the CSA of Greater Los Angeles. But, I'll consider the two namesake county seats as core cities of the Inland Empire.
Wouldn't it be funny if some OR-DOT guy signed the US-20 exit sign to say ALBANY NY instead?
why not say Boston instead?
I thought it was Thursday for a moment
2:57 3:08 3:36 For Caltrans Orange County District these should be Santa Ana Los Angeles. 3:36 in 2004 it had the correct one Los Angeles
11:55 Can be fixed to say San Francisco Reno Salt Lake City. Even better San Francisco Reno Ridgefield Park, NJ 5 fwy at this point would have been Redding Portland, OR
Would LA not sign for San Francisco because of the 101? While not the fastest route, it is more direct than the 5.
101 takes longer, not really more direct
I think you should do I-42, the newest interstate, when the Chiefs meet the Panthers
@@BFUS_official I'm not sure if he's gonna do that unless the Streetview he uses has 42 reassureance shields in it. and NCDOT itself is JUST adding the shields as it is.
I would keep redding but other than that i agree.
10:52 Portland in 628 miles sign
20:20 When is he doing the famous US Six and thirty?
Hot take - Eugene is a better control city than Springfield because Eugene is distinctly "Oregon" while there's a Springfield in almost every state (hence the Simpsons).
True
And Eugene's a bigger city
I agree with this take, though I’m pretty sure with the 5 after you pass Sacramento some signs go straight to Portland
Can I send in some reboot requests?
As nice as the scenery is, I greatly dislike driving on I-5 between Redding and Eugene. Lots of traffic, especially trucks, on a long, windy, and hilly section of interstate. Whenever I drive to the Bay Area from Seattle, I prefer to use 101 from Grants Pass via 199 or from Cottage Grove via OR-38 to Reedsport. Also there's an In N Out at that OR-99 exit in Grants Pass, so I almost always stop there if I'm going that way.
The old I-4 video is not memebers only.
Corona has a population of 159,770 according to Google. That is Worth listing it as a control city
The Red Line is a special event service from Balboa Avenue to Petco Park. The regular service as you mentioned is the Blue Line slso known as the UCSD BLUE LINE.
159,000 clears in Nebraska, but there's more to control cities than population. Corona is the 18th largest city in the LA CSA. It's fine as a secondary at the 15/215 split but has no business being signed in San Diego.
@@ControlCityFreakIt's because of the junction with CA-91 in Corona, not because of Corona itself. I-15/CA-91 is a major junction, as it connects to the 15 to OC, LA Beaches, as well as to points in Western IE and Eastern LA county such as Pomona via CA-71. 15-91-71 is a major route. I've taken 15 to 91 more often than just staying on the 15 because most IE cities are more accessible from the 215.
Why can they do this in florida for truck route???? Like make a sign for truck route
For the all-request, I want Exit 254 on I-65 in Alabama.
Cool, would need a minimum $5 Superthanks or a Patreon membership.
Oh, I’ll do it on the Patreon instead!
Make a road for truck route😂😂😂
California 14 is AKA Antelope Valley Freeway
Future I-640 (shhh)
6:00 SoCal definitely will NEVER sign an Arizona city as a control for either the 8 out of San Diego, or the 10 out of Los Angeles. especially one that is 350+ miles away from LA.
I mean .... the 15 isn't even signed for Las Vegas until AFTER the 15/40 interchange (except for ONE sign on 10 EAST right at that interchange), and the 40 is signed for Needles at that 15/40 interchange.
also .... until about 20-25 years ago, Phoenix (and Las Vegas too, for that matter) were not the massive population points that they are now. of course, California defectors have a LOT to do with that 😂😂😂 but that is besides the point ....
True, SoCal can't even properly sign LA
I believe what's worse is they even got rid of the LV sign on 10 East, which is insulting. 8 should truly be Tuscon and 10 for Phoenix as we all know, but for some reason SoCal is so against that signage, even though they'll do the crazy signs for Portland and Salt Lake
15 is signed for Las Vegas (on a side sign) in Temecula at the 215 split. No more mentions until Barstow though which is wild.
@@ryannichols2046 I can KINDA understand not signing Tucson on I-8 out of SD cuz Tucson isn't THAT big of a population draw (from SoCal's perspective) to be worth signing from 300+ miles away.
and where does CalTrans sign Salt Lake? 🤔🤔
Northern Cal DOES sign Portland on the 5 out of Sacramento ... but Northern Cal does things pretty different than Southern Cal, hence why I specifically called out SoCal 😂😂
@@ControlCityFreak exactly .... SoCal doesn't even sign LA on the northbound 5 out of SD, and there's like six miles of separation between the SD and LA metros 😂
Can you do I-195 please?
Uh, was this supposed to come out tomorrow? It's unusual for you to have a video go live on Wednesday.
Yeah I scheduled the wrong day I guess
@@ControlCityFreak It's all good. I just was looking out for you.
It baffles me that caltrans still signs Santa Ana when Anaheim is the more famous city in OC.
even then, los angeles is right there too
Santa Ana Freeway, plus Santa Ana is where the county govt is located. That's my guess.
Freeway name has nothing to do with control cities. 5 should be LA the entire way north of Downtown SD.
If you’re gonna dump San Bern on the 10 east for Phoenix, I’d like to see Vegas as well
Vegas is actually a pretty good reason to keep SB now that you mention it, will consider that whenever I get around to rebooting 10
@@ControlCityFreak I’d be happy to help out with rebooting I-10. I might consider keeping Lake Charles as a control city after Beaumont. From New Orleans, instead of Slidell, sign Biloxi. In Mississippi and Alabama, Biloxi/Mobile, then Mobile, Pensacola, Tallahassee, and Jacksonville all the way. Problem solved.
Vegas is also more likely to be getting long distance traffic on 10 East too...but I am all in on it being Phoenix personally. especially since it's LA out of downtown Phoenix!
@@ryannichols2046 but that’s why I think San Bern should be signed. And I believe that LA is signed on 15 out of Vegas as well.
17:02 hugo11 is a my singing monsters youtuber (i shouldn't have said it in front of an interstate fandom)
The 5 is signed for Santa Ana because the 5 is called the "Santa Ana Freeway" from Los Angeles to Irvine. The 405 is officially the San Diego Freeway, even in West L.A. The 10 east of L.A. is the "San Bernardino Freeway." The 10 west of L.A. is the Santa Monica Freeway. The 710 is the Pasadena Freeway. Naturally one expects all these named Freeways to take you to where they are named and they do.
This is all historical, because the original L.A. freeway system predates the Interstate highway system by over a decade.
The name doesn't dictate the control cities though...
weed california 😂😂😂😂😂
Would it kill Caltrans to sign the 5N/10E concurrency as Sacramento/Phoenix?
or SF/Phoenix
@@mxderateprod How about San Francisco/Sacramento/Phoenix
They won't sign concurrencies this way because concurrencies don't exist in California. They did this to simplify the highway system and whichever highway is more dominant/important is the one that gets the mileage, and the other one is officially split into two segments.
California seems to not like signing outer-state cities...Arizona signed LA from Phoenix all the way...California doesn't reciprocate.
I feel like NorCal and SoCal are two different DOTs because NorCal is signed well for the most part while SoCal is garbage
@@mxderateprodyeah, I'm guessing each DOT region in California does whatever. Signing Los Angeles from San Diego then suddenly Santa Ana out of nowhere when coming into Orange County. Which would indicate San Diego and Orange counties being separate DOT regions.
That was my theory, but the SD region of Caltrans must include San Clemente as well since San Clemente signs LA, and the Santa Ana signs start immediately past the San Clemente line.
Infatuation with signing Ludlow which is by far the smallest signed control city. Ludlow gets the meme along with the Deming/Lordsburg, Delaware Water Gap, East Saint Louis, and a few other lousy sign choices like "other Desert Cities". I-15 does not go to Riverside, it does go right through Downtown Corona, and Corona is what should be on overhead signage leaving San Diego. Riverside belongs to I-215 (former US-395, the "Escondido Freeway".
On 15, because it is the Escondido Freeway
Escondido
Rancho California
Corona
Rancho Cucamonga
Barstow
Las Vegas
Denver
Salt Lake
Ogden
Portland/Seattle until the I-86 split
Pocatello,
Butte
Helena
Shelby
Lethbridge, AB
@@ControlCityFreak I just checked and Orange County is its own district within Caltrans. San Clemente is at the extreme southern border so I'm guessing the Santa Ana signs start right after entering the county and there's likely exits for San Clemente on the San Diego county side.
Hi Control City Freak I look on google maps when I 10 joins up with I5 and it is 2 Interstates together I 10 and I 5 and for freeway entrance sings they only sign I5 not both together. I would of sign I 10 and I 5 freeway entrance
Here’s Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-5 northbound
San Diego
Los Angeles
San Francisco (until I-580)
Sacramento
Portland
Seattle
Vancouver
I think it should be this for I-5 northbound
San Diego
Los Angeles
San Francisco/Sacramento(until I-580)
Sacramento
Portland
Seattle
Vancouver
For I-5 southbound
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco/Sacramento(until I-505)
Sacramento
Los Angeles
San Francisco/Los Angeles(Stockton to I-205)
Los Angeles
San Diego
Tijuana
@@iansampson3076 solid
@@iansampson3076This is the way
US 2 the great northern route
I was just wondering for the week the Cheifs play the Panthers can you do the newly opened I-42
Probably not, I had something else in mind. Probably nothing on GSV anyway
The Canby exit is weird. The road you exit on to is not the road to Canby: you have to do a 180 degree turn onto Oregon State Highway 551. They sign it like that because I-5 South has a direct movement to Highway 551, signed for Canby. Canby is home to the Clackamas County Fairgrounds, hence the importance to sign it.
Yeah it should be signed for exit 278. Should’ve mentioned that on the request
@1jhar1 For the record, you are spot on about 217 😂
Todd, I don't recommend watching your videos while on a medication that causes double vision. I'm on one from VQ and this sucks. 😢
Finally
Any reason why this was posted a day early?
Nope, I just hit the wrong day
Why today
Messed up the date lol
A Wednesday video? Strange
I would go
5 North
Downtown San Diego
Anaheim
East Los Angeles
Valencia
Bakersfield
After the 99
Oakland/San Francisco
From Tracy
Stockton
Sacramento
Redding
Eugene/Salem
As r approaches Eugene
Salem then Portland
In Portland
Olympia
Tacoma/Seattle
Everett
Vancouver, BC
Corona is a better control city for I-15 from SD and as I pointed out, it is known as the Escondido Freeway from I-8 through its junction with I-215. My signage idea as to random interchanges should be Escondido and at Via Rancho Parkway - go to Corona/Perris" (as you actually pass through the east edge of downtown Perris),
I-15 North
From I-5 - Escondido
Corona & Perris/San Bernardinoo
Rancho Cucamonga
Devore & Barstow
Then Barstow & Kingman
Then Primm & Las Vegas Valley
Mesquite
Saint George
Denver / Salt Lake / AIRPORT / Reno
Then Salt Lake / Salt Lake Airport / Reno - Ogden
Portland / Seattle then Pocatello/Chubbuck, then I'm twin Falls, then Butte - Helena/Bozeman, Shelby, then Lethbridge, AB
SB
Shelby
Helena
Butte/Seattle
Twin Falls
Pocatello/Portland
Ogden/Cheyenne
SLC Airport
Salt Lake/Provo/Cheyenne/Las Vegas
Saint George/Mesquite
Las Vegas Valley & Primm
Primm & Barstow
From Baker
Bakersfield/Devore/Rancho Cucamonga
San Bernardino/Riverside (Riverside makes more operational sense southbound)
Beaumont/Perris
Perris
215 from Perris: & 15 from Corona: Escondido
15 from Rancho Cucamonga:
Corona
From Escondidoo
"San Diego/32nd Street Naval Station/National City"
Meh, if everything is a control city, than nothing's a control city.
This is wrong.
I-15 N Control Cities
Escondido
Corona/Riverside
Corona (from I-215 jct)
Barstow/Las Vegas
Las Vegas
Salt Lake City
Twin Falls
Helena
Canada
no reason to complicate it
I-15 S Control Cities
Helena
Idaho Falls
Salt Lake City
Las Vegas
Los Angeles/San Bernardino
Corona (from I-215 split)
San Diego
Tijuana
(don't sign San Diego at the 15/215 split because it's almost always faster to take 215 to San Diego, less traffic and it's shorter)
I'd sign LA at the 215 split.