SR. 37 will be upgraded to I-69 all the way up to Edgewood, Avenue and then I-69 will divert off of SR. 37/Harding St and there is construction on a separate exit for I-69 that will probably be known as Exit 5. I-69 traffic for now will take Exit 4, Harding St/SR. 37 until I-69 (in Indiana minus the bridge to Kentucky) is completed in Fall 2024. At 7:58, that mileage sign is for SR. 37 since it splits off from I-69 on the south side of Bloomington. At 8:06 the Ruel W. Steele Highway is the section of SR. 37 from I-465 to Mitchell, IN. I also wouldn’t be opposed if Bloomington was signed as a control city, but Evansville would probably make more sense.
Was just watching the Clear Path 465 flyover animation here -> th-cam.com/video/u1luViuWqZE/w-d-xo.html and at time stamp 3:03 it says 465 South / 69 South Evansville. So it would appear Evansville it is.
The white sign that appears at 10:45 can be found on every interstate throughout indiana. In places where there are more than two lanes, the sign will say “right two lanes” or however many lanes. It’s basically a more long winded way to say “no trucks left lane”
Hey Todd. The are erecting new gantries and putting up new signs around the Evansville area for I-69 north with Indianapolis as the control city instead of a blank green sign.
During my 2024 summer road trip, part of my loop included a diversion up into the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. I used I 69 west and south between the two interchanges with I 94: from the northeast Detroit exurbs near Sarnia to rural Michigan just east of Battle Creek. Observations: Overhead controls were basically perfect from the get go: first Flint, followed by Lansing (with Detroit along the 96 concurrency west of Lansing), and Fort Wayne. Mostly, the same can be said about the mileage controls, except for once leaving Lansing. There were multiple times where the mileage control was actually Marshall, aka the town about 10 miles east of Battle Creek where 69 and 94 meet. Kind of a ding against a generally good state…
There might be a joke There. But DOTs have a limit due to the ability to read and not be distracted. I assumed Texas and the branches then part 3 the little bit In Mississippi and Kentucky.
I-69 was originally planned to go to downtown Indianapolis connecting to the I-65 I-70 north split but never came to pass so it ended at 465, you can actually still see the on/off ramps for the I-69 part of the planned 65,69,70 north split on sat views.
I would’ve had the Indianapolis inner loop setup like Atlanta. Have the west-east interstate (I-70) go across the south edge of Downtown Indianapolis. I-65 & I-69 would combine, then down the east edge of Downtown Indianapolis, then split.
The Ramps for I-69 in downtown Indy are being removed right now. I wish the freeway riots never happened, but now you have to go around Indy instead of through it. If it were up to me, I-69 and I-74 would go into downtown and complete an inner loop around the core of the city
The bridge across the Ohio River for I-69 will be about a mile east of where the twin bridges are. That road will connect to the I-69 part that starts in Henderson near the end of the Audubon Parkway.
7:52 I went to a church campmeeting off of US. 50 between this Bedford and Brownsville, IN. I drove 69 from its junction with whatever route splits off to Beford. I believe its IN. 37 to county line road or around to Shelby St. Pentcostal Holiness Church. It's a beautiful drive. Not to mention Southern Indiana. It is unlike the rest of the state. Its more like Kentucky in spots.😂
Thanks for making videos like this! I learned to read at age four by reading interstate signs and 35 years later I'm still a road/infrastructure geek, now living within the control city-adverse MNDOT MSP metro area. Hopefully I'll be in the paradise of TN within the next decade!
I’m a big fan of the I-69 Northbound signs to Canada 🇨🇦. It really helps clarify that an international border crossing is ahead with passport control/customs/tolls. Once on the Blue Water Bridge, then I’d sign London. Just past London there’s a split to Toronto on the 401 or Hamilton/Niagara via the 403, so signing Toronto so early might not make sense. London is the 5th biggest metro area in Ontario.
Toronto is the biggest, most famous city in Canada and the 4th biggest city proper in NA after Mexico City, New York, and LA, and it’s only a 3 hour drive from Port Huron. I’m a big fan of those flag signs as well, makes it really clear.
@@ControlCityFreak I see what your saying, but it’s kind of like starting signing New York City on eastbound I90 starting at Utica. Yeah, a lot of people will be heading that way. But skipping signing Albany where the split is, seems like missing the mark. Besides, London is the control city on the 401 west out of Toronto and east out of Detroit/Windsor. That all being said, you make the videos, not I, so you get to call the shots. Can’t wait for i75 and the Tampa/Atlanta signs in Ohio. 🙌🏼
I agree with you. London is the control city in Canada. Toronto seems premature when much of the traffic will also be heading to Hamilton/Niagara to cut thru Ontario to NY. Canada is the correct signage to remind people; You’re about to need to pull out your passport.
@@mxderateprod well, I-95 has New Haven, CT as a control city and its a much smaller city than London and you go through it to get to Boston or NYC. So if London is a large City in Ontario being over 400,000 people, it's a good control city
@@somethingrandom987 Still, Toronto is 4x the size of London. Plus, New Haven is only a good control city going northbound after Bridgeport. Going southbound, I'd skip and sign NYC. If anything other than Toronto it would be Hamilton.
Finally in my home state, Michigan! Not 100% sure on what the exact reason was Michigan chose Flint and Port Huron as dual control cities, but my guess is they added Port Huron because it’s the only two locations in the lower peninsula that can access Canada by interstate. Also while typing this I JUST realized that every two digit interstate in Michigan has exits for Canada. Thought that was pretty cool.
I-75 gets two (Ambassador brdg and Sault St. Marie brdg), and will soon get a third once the Gordie Howe comes up to link the 401 to I-75. Which also means they'll have to update the signage in Detroit, as currently the Ambassador bridge is just signed "Bridge to Canada". My guess is that one gets signed for Windsor Ontario and the Gordie Howe gets signed for the 401, maybed for Toronto?
I-69 in Michigan used to be lightly-traveled before (pardon my use of Southern California nomenclature for Ontario roads) "the 403" which connects to superhighways leading to Buffalo, Toronto, and Montreal. No mention of this is made in Michigan.
There used to be a sign in Lansing neat the 96 west off ramp that read " 69 West becomes 69 South" that sign has been gone for a long time. Up until 2001, U.S. 27 was dually signed with 69 from the Current U.S. 127 interchange all the way to Ft Wayne. There is still a sign in Auburn Ind the has 27 mentioned with 69 on S.R. 8 east bound. Lots of Construction from Martinsville to I-465. Many new overpasses are being constructed along that stretch. I drove it on Sunday from Evansville.
Starting at the S.R. 44 and S.R. 252 interchange, the construction begins. The speed limit is 45 mph the above mentioned interchange North to I-465. The first red light after is at S.R. 144 and that is where the mile markers for I-69 stops. The rest of the way to for 465, new overpasses and frontage roads are being built.Roughly a mile south of 465, a newly cleared path for the I-69 and I-465 interchange. The path was cleared due to the fact the state didn't want to buy the land of where the Flying J and Stoops freightliner exist. Originally they were going to level those businesses but moved the path a little further west. I have a suspicion that Bloomington might be the control city from Evansville.
When I-69 leaves Port Huron en route to Lansing, it is signed West since it follows two old state highways which ran east-west: Old M-21 (which ran between there and Holland before the interstate system) from P.H. to Flint, and Old M-78 from Flint to Lansing, which once ran between the two cities, then southwest to Battle Creek and to Sturgis, just north of I-80/90. Now M-21 only exists between Grand Rapids and Flint, although it is not followed by an interstate highway today; nearby I-96 follows US 16 in its entirety, which will be quite a while before you do that one. And M-78 only exists just north of Battle Creek and runs east through Bellevue before departing off its original highway alignment to go to I-69 near Olivet; it is a small shell of its former self.
Leaving the United States at the Canadian border there is no check point for US customs. That was a toll booth for the bridge. The bridge across the river from Michigan's lower peninsula to Canada are all toll bridges. Canada on the signs instead of a city makes more sense than posting a city name on there. It wouldn't be Toronto anyway. Sarnia is the city in Canada at the border across the river from Port Huron.
Day 1 of asking you to cover Highway 401 in Ontario Canada. It is Ontario’s main highway as it runs from the Michigan border to just outside of the Quebec border near Montreal. It is also the busiest freeway in North America trough Toronto as it stretches up to 18 lanes. I think it’s a very interesting highway to cover.
How cool would that be to have I-69/I-94 signed for Toronto. Good Idea! I know that Interstates can’t go into Canada, but this is the Direct Route to Toronto of you follow Highway 402.
Indiana has renumbered the mile markers and exits along the “legacy” portion of I-69, adding exactly 200 miles to the route, since the new portion enters the state at Evansville. Although I have only been on this highway once, it was easy to tell, as the “Exit Five Corporate Park” in Fishers is now located near exit 205.
Indiana 37 used to continue as a divided, at-grade highway until Bedford, then became a two-lane near Paoli. (If you remember "Parks and Recreation", the location according to canon would be Paoli, Indiana even if Lafayette's Parks Department was the model.) I-69 leaves the IN 37 alignment north of Bedford, Indiana, but chances are that people not going on to Evansville are heading to Bedford or Bloomington.
Fun fact. Since I-69 in Indiana used to start at I-465, that was MM 0 and it went up from there. So the exit of State Road 37 North was Exit 5. MM 100 was in Fort Wayne. Etc. When they started constructions on I-69 in Evansville, they just increased the mile markers from I-465 north by 200 rather than the actual amount to avoid confusion. So at I-465 it is now MM 200. The State Road 37 exit is Exit 205. MM 100 in Fort Wayne is now 300. However, the distance from where I-69 will begin in Evansville to the original starting point at I-465 is about 185 miles, not 200. So most of the mile markers from I-465 northward will be over the actual amount by about 15 miles. And the City of Fishers still has a road called Exit 5 Pkwy even though it is now Exit 205.
Yours is the channel I’ve been looking for! I have a birdseye view of the major “Northsplit” project that is kinda flipping 65 and 70 in downtown INDIANAPOLIS to reduce lane weaving and congestion…
I'm guessing the mileage isn't on the southern part to Indy because the road isn't built yet. If the eventual I-69 isn't on the exact path of today's roads, the signs would need to be changed. Granted, that wouldn't be difficult after building a highway, but it's my best guess. I'm okay with Canada as I think the goal there is to be explicit about the international border.
Great point, but I imagine they know more or less what the route will be. Discontiguous section of 49 in AR have mile markers, and that is way farther from being completed than 69 in IN
Michigan has a few highways that have the opposite direction than you'd expect -- most notably US 24. I-69 is the only Interstate here that does that, though. I-76 does the opposite thing for the mile it runs in Nebraska, being signed north-south instead of east-west.
Before the current eastern I-84 in Massachusetts was renumbered , its former number, I-86, was signed north-south, but east-west in Connecticut. After the renumbering, I-84 in MA was signed east-west. According to Wikipedia, the stretch of I-76 in Nebraska was changed to east-west in 2021. So, as far as I know, I-69 in Michigan is currently the only odd-numbered interstate signed east-west. I agree with the comments below this one as to how the southern part of this interstate will be signed once it's built.
@@edwardrasmussen3465 I had a chance to drive on "south" I-76 back in December 2019. Don't remember noticing it at all though, maybe because it was 3 AM and I was just focused on making it to my hotel haha
My opinion: Michigan will someday redesignate US 24 a state highway if Ohio should build most of US 24 to Interstate standard (probably I-72 through Fort Wayne. Anomalous US routes have a high likelihood of getting decommissioned. US 24 is a north-south route in Michigan, and with I-75 and I-275 in the area as alternatives it is unnecessary as a US route. I have seen the "M-24" diamond on US 24 near the I-94 interchange. That is a mistake, but one that I can understand.
14:59 that should be I-69 East (North) Port Huron Toronto, ON then have milage posts for I-69 East milage origin I-69 North from the MI/IN border as Port Huron Sarnia Toronto
Two sections of I-69 should be completed by the fall of 2024. 1). I-69 between Martinsville and Indianapolis in Indiana will be open to traffic in late 2024, and 2). They are building a bridge over the Ohio River for I-69 between Evansville Indiana and Henderson Kentucky, and that too will be open in late of 2024. Currently, both structures are under construction.
The bridge over the Ohio River will certainly NOT be completed in 2024. They don't even know yet what the bridge will look like, they just know the route it will take. So it certainly is not under construction at the moment. It will be a few years beyond 2024 when the bridge is completed.
Explanation of no control cities in Fort Wayne: 1. Most of the 469 bypass is in the city of Fort Wayne proper. The city expanded to include all of its county. 2. 469 South goes to Indianapolis. 3. US 24 West goes to a string of Hoosier cities with fewer than 30,000 people, and thence to Peoria. Throughout Indiana west of I-65, Peoria is the control city for good reason: Illinois routed US 24 through a very thinly section of the state east of Peoria where Watseka is the largest town (pop. 4,679) and west of Logansport, IN is our empty quarter. 4. US 24 East would probably be signed for Toledo. 5. US 30 West's control city is Joliet, Illinois. The Chicago connurbation starts outside Valparaiso, Indiana, and all the suburbs long US 30 would scream if a different suburb were named the control city. 6. US 30 East's next control city is Lima, Ohio, and that's being generous. I think Akron is the nearest substantial city. Better to leave it blank than to list four cities 150-200 miles away.
US 33 goes to Columbus, Ohio to the south and east from Fort Wayne, Much of that section of US 33 is Interstate-grade freeway, but much of it isn't. US 33 goes north and west to Elkhart, a much smaller city than Columbus... and the Indiana Toll Road Concession isn't going to let that become the route of anything near a freeway for a very long time. US 30 angles north of west toward Chicago, and although a divided highway, it is unlikely to be upgraded to freeway for a very long time.
My suspicion is that I-69 in Michigan was once expected to go north from Lansing along the route of US 27 (now US 127) almost due north through Mount Pleasant and Clare to connect to I-75 near Grayling, feeding north to the Mackinac Bridge. Until the 1970's, more of the route along US 27 (now US 127) was freeway while only a small part of future I-69 east of Lansing was freeway Had I=69 been built north, then the eastern part of what we think of as I-69 (Lansing-Flint-Port Huron would have been suggested as either I-98 (arrgh! If there is to be an I-98 in Michigan, then let it be through the Upper Peninsula!) or some three-digit route. Michigan has been upgrading parts of US 127 north of Jackson to Interstate standards. There is no I-175 in Michigan, and I-175 would make sense should I-73 be objectionable. Adrian seems not to want I-73.
They finally put a pull through sign on N 69 at the N 469 interchange It has Dupont Rd IN 1/ Lansing All three lanes and the right two lanes exit for 469 24/30. If you Street view it at this time you'll see the new sign laying in the grass
I wonder when will the southern section of I-69 be complete. In the mean time, as I-69 is fully complete, it'll become another border to border interstate, even though most border to border interstates have their numbers end in 5.
8 Bit, you are absolutely right! Interstate 69 deserves to be a primary interstate with a 5 digit! In my humble opinion, Interstate 45 does not deserve the 5 digit and should be renumbered maybe as a southern I-41, I-43, or I-47. Interstate 69 should be renumbered I-45. What do you think?
I-69 would also intersect I-55 in Memphis, TN and I-65 in Indianapolis. It traverses from near the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes like I-55 and I-65.
@@darknessnight1115, I-45 is just a state only interstate in Texas and literally replaces US 75 between Galveston, TX and Dallas. What were AASHTO and TxDOT thinking?
Just caught this video thank you for posting, I m born and raised in the State of Michigan, not sure if you already know this but I-69 does not go anywhere near the city of Detroit so, I’m not sure why you posted Detroit on your list in the end of video. I-75, I-94 and I-96 go through the city of Detroit. I-69 is Port Huron, Flint, Lansing and then south.
Someone's probably already said it, but Charlotte, Mich. is locally pronounced shar-LOTT. It's a decent-sized city and its county seat; the first time I ever saw its county courthouse I thought I was in Back to the Future. (On second look it's not that close, but you can see how I'd get there.)
Fun fact: Charlotte, MI is pronounced Char-LOT, as opposed to CHAR-lut, with the accent on the second syllable. My goofy MI in-laws will back me up on this.
Even though IN-37 will be replaced by I-69, the actual interchange with I-465 will be somewhere between Exit 8/7 and Exit 4, as there's far too much crap at the IN-37/Harding St. interchange (I've experienced that horrible interchange, as I used to drive for Werner, which isn't that far from Exit 4).
My issue with signing Canada as a control point is that it just reinforces the general American ignorance and obliviousness to Canada. Signing a Canadian city just shows that Americans can at least acknowledge the different Canadian cities. I would sign London instead of Toronto because it’s closer and directly on the highway that I-69/96 turns into. P.S. Nice to finally see you in the flesh!
@highway2heaven91 I disagree & here’s how. Canada does the same: “Bridge to the US/USA - Pont vers les EU”. If an American destination is used, it’s the state not the city. The U.S. does use Canadian cities as destinations. Examples include I-87 North -Montreal (North of Albany NY), I-29 North-Winnipeg (North Dakota) & I-5 North-Vancouver B.C. (Downtown Seattle)
You asked about Petersburg. It was home of Baseball Hall of Famer Gil Hodges. You didn’t mention the rural exits of Oakland City, Princeton. Princeton home of Toyota. Also, U.S. 50 exit at Washington, Indiana in Amish Country and Odin, Indiana.
Lol at 3:46 it's actually pronounced (shar lot) instead of (shar lit) it's very weird, I am from Michigan btw and I-69 is the only 2 digit interstate in Michigan to not go into Detroit or the Detroit area. Can't wait for the I-75 video and I can't wait for your reaction for the control city of Mackinac Bridge (pronounced Mackinaw) for 200 miles, literally, it starts after Saginaw.
Many moons ago I drove down I-69 on a business trip through Flint and Lansing and there used to be signs that warn of the cardinal directional change of I-69. I don't know if those signs are still there but I guess in the era of satnav they are no longer necessary.
The only mentions of the direction change is on the guide signs at the North Junction...Oddly on East 96 at the exit for East 69 there is no mention of the upcoming concurrency on the pull through
My idea for signing cities in the northern portion of I-69 are as follows.: Northbound: •Flint, MI •Lansing, MI •Fort Wayne, IN •Indianapolis •Evansville, IN (No need for Detroit since it's for I-94 only. Speaking of I-94, for westbound, after Detroit, it's Chicago, but for me, I'll sign a few secondary control cities in Michigan above Chicago.) Southbound: •Indianapolis •Fort Wayne, IN •Lansing, MI •Flint, MI •Port Huron, MI •Sarnia 🇨🇦 (No need for Toronto yet, but after crossing into Southwestern Ontario, if you use eastbound 401 or 402, London, ON is the next city to sign before Toronto which is fine by me. Plus, the 402 does meet the 401 in London, ON.)
My Control Cities for I-69 (Including I-69E) Corpus Christi Houston Lufkin / Shreveport Shreveport Memphis Indianapolis Evansville / Indianapolis Bloomington / Indianapolis Indianapolis Fort Wayne Lansing Flint Port Huron Canada
I know there are more important projects on Arkansas' plate (57 and 49) but I believe I-69 will help DFW-bound traffic coming from Memphis (and vice versa). 30 and 40 in Arkansas are just choked with truck traffic and I'm not sure if just adding more lanes on 30 and 40 would do it. 40 needs to be six lanes from I-81 to OKC, regardless of whether 69 ever gets built in Arkansas.
From what I’ve seen, the only interstate project that Arkansas is really focused on right now is an interstate that connects NW Arkansas with the Tulsa metro (possibly I-42?). I-69 is in front of I-49 on the priority list though.
@@highway2heaven91 Well, it's possible a large chunk of I-69 will be built before the long mountainous stretch of I-49 is built from Greenwood to Texarkana, but Arkansas is going to aim to get the stack interchange and AR River bridge at 49/40 built hopefully in the next ten years. And I-57 will probably be done before 69 gets built. The large problem, I believe is, neither MS or LA are invested right now with I-69. There will have to be another MS river bridge. The new US 82 bridge wasn't intended to be the I-69 bridge.
Another solution for DFW-bound traffic is extending I-45 to Tulsa, so then travelers from Chicago or STL can take I-44 + I-45 to DFW - easier access. I-69 will help Houston-bound traffic more. If you’re coming from the north such as Michigan or Indiana, you have to take I-69 + I-70 + I-57 + I-55 + I-40 + I-30 + US 59 to Houston. With I-69, it’ll a straight shot. I-369 will help travelers from Little Rock & Texarkana that’s going to Houston (I-369 + I-69). I-57 & I-69 will ease the traffic between Little Rock & Nashville on I-40 - since there’s tons of folks going to Texas, including truckers.
Yeah maybe that. I fell like Windsor is a lot more widely known in the States than Sarnia or London, especially in the Detroit area so Windsor alone is probably ok there
I-69 in the Interstate Highway Act of 1956 was supposed to end at the first I-94 interchange in Marshall...Michigan had to petition Congress for the 165 miles to the 2nd I-94 interchange...First to I-75 in 1968, then to Port Huron in 1983 Like the rest of the freeway, I-69 in Michigan was done in segments...The first section, from Morrice to Swartz Creek was completed in 1961 (before I-69 was approved for the highway)... from the Michigan State Line to the 1st I-94 interchange in 1967...I-94 to Charlotte, and Swartz Creek (through Flint) to Lapeer in 1971...Lapeer to Port Huron in 1984...Perry to I-96 North junction in 1991, and Charlotte to the I-96 south junction in 1992 Also I-69 from the I-96 North junction to Port Huron runs in a general East-West direction, so it makes sense that it's the cardinal direction
I at least understand this route once it’s completed, although the 3 way split in Texas is bewildering. I’m still trying to figure out how I-74 is supposed to connect from the original terminus in Cincinnati to the new segment in North Carolina, where it even overlaps with US 74.
For whatever reason Charlotte, MI is pronounced “Shar-LOT” rather than like Charlotte, NC - was quickly corrected when I moved to Lansing as I also thought it was pronounced like Charlotte, NC
It’s weird that jus like I69 is north and south and east and west at different points that US 33 is north and south in Indiana but in Richmond va US 33 is east and west
The reason 469 said Ft Wayne is because it just goes around Ft Wayne. 469 does not connect to Toledo, OH. US hwy 24 is what connects Ft Wayne with Toledo
I’ve tried making the list twice now, but have accidentally deleted it before completion or posted it prematurely. I’m just going to skip the destinations off of other freeway interchanges and only focus on the primary controls; half of the list would otherwise be occupied by the southeastern diagonal of the Indianapolis beltway. North/East Bloomington Indianapolis Fort Wayne Lansing Flint Sarnia London West/South: Flint Lansing Fort Wayne Indianapolis Bloomington Evansville
Grand Rapids would also be valid because 69 leads to 96. Fort Wayne and Grand rapids are similar in size. 69 and 96 are now the quickest route between Flint and Grand Rapids.
So... Unless you are from the Lansing area, Most people don't know you don't pronounce it Charlotte that would make sense lol! It's pronounced Shar Lot. Very different we know 🤷♂️ Bedford has a small General Motors plant there, the major employer in town.
SOUTH(WEST) Flint/Detroit(bc 94) Flint Lansing Fort Wayne Indianapolis Bloomington(IN) Evansville “Kentucky” once in Evansville NORTH(EAST) Evansville/Indianapolis on the Kentucky Side of the border on new bridge? Indianapolis(Bloomington less of a draw Northbound). Could use as a secondary. Fort Wayne Lansing Flint Port Huron Canada(Sarnia, London ON, Toronto?)
Once I-69 is complete from Indianapolis to Memphis, do you think it should just pull an I-57 and be signed straight for Memphis SB from Indianapolis and vice versa?
I would much rather see Memphis than Evansville imo. They should pull an Illinois and just sign Memphis in Indianapolis and then forget about it and sign Evansville for the rest of the state until you reach Evansville.
Control city will be Evansville after Indianapolis on I-69, since it’s one of the largest cities in Indiana. Memphis will be the control city after Evansville, since it’ll be a straight shot through Western Kentucky and most of Tennessee, since Memphis sits at the western-bottom edge of Tennessee.
469 east from 69 northbound south of Fort Wayne should have Toledo and perhaps Lima as a control city. 469 east from 69 southbound should have Lima or Columbus (Ohio!) as a control city.
SR. 37 will be upgraded to I-69 all the way up to Edgewood, Avenue and then I-69 will divert off of SR. 37/Harding St and there is construction on a separate exit for I-69 that will probably be known as Exit 5. I-69 traffic for now will take Exit 4, Harding St/SR. 37 until I-69 (in Indiana minus the bridge to Kentucky) is completed in Fall 2024.
At 7:58, that mileage sign is for SR. 37 since it splits off from I-69 on the south side of Bloomington.
At 8:06 the Ruel W. Steele Highway is the section of SR. 37 from I-465 to Mitchell, IN.
I also wouldn’t be opposed if Bloomington was signed as a control city, but Evansville would probably make more sense.
Thanks, great info!
Was just watching the Clear Path 465 flyover animation here -> th-cam.com/video/u1luViuWqZE/w-d-xo.html and at time stamp 3:03 it says 465 South / 69 South Evansville. So it would appear Evansville it is.
16:01 is the toll booth for the Blue Water Bridge in the eastbound lanes.
The white sign that appears at 10:45 can be found on every interstate throughout indiana. In places where there are more than two lanes, the sign will say “right two lanes” or however many lanes. It’s basically a more long winded way to say “no trucks left lane”
Great note!
There's also a 269 beltway in the Memphis metro area. It's an outer ring that serves the suburbs of Shelby County and Northern MS.
I've driven by it before but still haven't been on it
@Armchair Psycho lol
5:07 Hi, Fort Wayne resident here. US 24 is the designated road that goes from Fort to Port, as we call it.
Hey Todd. The are erecting new gantries and putting up new signs around the Evansville area for I-69 north with Indianapolis as the control city instead of a blank green sign.
During my 2024 summer road trip, part of my loop included a diversion up into the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. I used I 69 west and south between the two interchanges with I 94: from the northeast Detroit exurbs near Sarnia to rural Michigan just east of Battle Creek. Observations:
Overhead controls were basically perfect from the get go: first Flint, followed by Lansing (with Detroit along the 96 concurrency west of Lansing), and Fort Wayne. Mostly, the same can be said about the mileage controls, except for once leaving Lansing. There were multiple times where the mileage control was actually Marshall, aka the town about 10 miles east of Battle Creek where 69 and 94 meet. Kind of a ding against a generally good state…
Genuinely surprised the roadway engineers abbreviated Gd Rapids on that giant sign at 14:19.
I know, right?
Why not Gr. Rapids?
There might be a joke There. But DOTs have a limit due to the ability to read and not be distracted. I assumed Texas and the branches then part 3 the little bit In Mississippi and Kentucky.
@@highway2heaven91 Gr. Means great, Gd Grand.
I-69 was originally planned to go to downtown Indianapolis connecting to the I-65 I-70 north split but never came to pass so it ended at 465, you can actually still see the on/off ramps for the I-69 part of the planned 65,69,70 north split on sat views.
Oh cool!
I would’ve had the Indianapolis inner loop setup like Atlanta. Have the west-east interstate (I-70) go across the south edge of Downtown Indianapolis. I-65 & I-69 would combine, then down the east edge of Downtown Indianapolis, then split.
@@justinsmith2598 I think Indy is ok as is. I’m not a big fan of inner loops
@@ControlCityFreak Understood.
The Ramps for I-69 in downtown Indy are being removed right now. I wish the freeway riots never happened, but now you have to go around Indy instead of through it. If it were up to me, I-69 and I-74 would go into downtown and complete an inner loop around the core of the city
The bridge across the Ohio River for I-69 will be about a mile east of where the twin bridges are. That road will connect to the I-69 part that starts in Henderson near the end of the Audubon Parkway.
7:52 I went to a church campmeeting off of US. 50 between this Bedford and Brownsville, IN. I drove 69 from its junction with whatever route splits off to Beford. I believe its IN. 37 to county line road or around to Shelby St. Pentcostal Holiness Church. It's a beautiful drive. Not to mention Southern Indiana. It is unlike the rest of the state. Its more like Kentucky in spots.😂
Thanks for making videos like this! I learned to read at age four by reading interstate signs and 35 years later I'm still a road/infrastructure geek, now living within the control city-adverse MNDOT MSP metro area. Hopefully I'll be in the paradise of TN within the next decade!
Thanks!
I’m a big fan of the I-69 Northbound signs to Canada 🇨🇦. It really helps clarify that an international border crossing is ahead with passport control/customs/tolls. Once on the Blue Water Bridge, then I’d sign London. Just past London there’s a split to Toronto on the 401 or Hamilton/Niagara via the 403, so signing Toronto so early might not make sense. London is the 5th biggest metro area in Ontario.
Toronto is the biggest, most famous city in Canada and the 4th biggest city proper in NA after Mexico City, New York, and LA, and it’s only a 3 hour drive from Port Huron. I’m a big fan of those flag signs as well, makes it really clear.
@@ControlCityFreak I see what your saying, but it’s kind of like starting signing New York City on eastbound I90 starting at Utica. Yeah, a lot of people will be heading that way. But skipping signing Albany where the split is, seems like missing the mark. Besides, London is the control city on the 401 west out of Toronto and east out of Detroit/Windsor. That all being said, you make the videos, not I, so you get to call the shots. Can’t wait for i75 and the Tampa/Atlanta signs in Ohio. 🙌🏼
@@Joeljdwatts Looking forward to seeing those!
It is really eastbound toward Buffalo and nearly eastbound for Toronto and Montreal. Toronto is of course much bigger than London, Ontario.
I actually grew up near Charlotte, Michigan. The town is pronounced shar-LOT.
Instead of the Control being Toronto, I suggest London, Ontario
Toronto is much more well known and much bigger, as it is 1 of 3 cities in Canada with over a million people.
I agree with you. London is the control city in Canada. Toronto seems premature when much of the traffic will also be heading to Hamilton/Niagara to cut thru Ontario to NY. Canada is the correct signage to remind people; You’re about to need to pull out your passport.
@@Joeljdwatts I'd say Toronto because it is way more well known to the US and is 1 of 3 cities in Canada with over a million people.
@@mxderateprod well, I-95 has New Haven, CT as a control city and its a much smaller city than London and you go through it to get to Boston or NYC. So if London is a large City in Ontario being over 400,000 people, it's a good control city
@@somethingrandom987 Still, Toronto is 4x the size of London. Plus, New Haven is only a good control city going northbound after Bridgeport. Going southbound, I'd skip and sign NYC. If anything other than Toronto it would be Hamilton.
Finally in my home state, Michigan! Not 100% sure on what the exact reason was Michigan chose Flint and Port Huron as dual control cities, but my guess is they added Port Huron because it’s the only two locations in the lower peninsula that can access Canada by interstate.
Also while typing this I JUST realized that every two digit interstate in Michigan has exits for Canada. Thought that was pretty cool.
Yeah it is!
Charlotte is actually pronounced Shar-LOT. Lived in Michigan for 15 years.
I-75 gets two (Ambassador brdg and Sault St. Marie brdg), and will soon get a third once the Gordie Howe comes up to link the 401 to I-75. Which also means they'll have to update the signage in Detroit, as currently the Ambassador bridge is just signed "Bridge to Canada". My guess is that one gets signed for Windsor Ontario and the Gordie Howe gets signed for the 401, maybed for Toronto?
@@volodimirivanevko9238 That would be cool!
When will I-69 be complete? th-cam.com/video/IXEKAleSIA4/w-d-xo.html
I-69 in Michigan used to be lightly-traveled before (pardon my use of Southern California nomenclature for Ontario roads) "the 403" which connects to superhighways leading to Buffalo, Toronto, and Montreal. No mention of this is made in Michigan.
There used to be a sign in Lansing neat the 96 west off ramp that read " 69 West becomes 69 South" that sign has been gone for a long time. Up until 2001, U.S. 27 was dually signed with 69 from the Current U.S. 127 interchange all the way to Ft Wayne. There is still a sign in Auburn Ind the has 27 mentioned with 69 on S.R. 8 east bound.
Lots of Construction from Martinsville to I-465. Many new overpasses are being constructed along that stretch. I drove it on Sunday from Evansville.
Oh that sign sounds cool! How was the drive? GSV doesn't show much but I can see a lot of construction on satellite view
Starting at the S.R. 44 and S.R. 252 interchange, the construction begins. The speed limit is 45 mph the above mentioned interchange North to I-465. The first red light after is at S.R. 144 and that is where the mile markers for I-69 stops. The rest of the way to for 465, new overpasses and frontage roads are being built.Roughly a mile south of 465, a newly cleared path for the I-69 and I-465 interchange. The path was cleared due to the fact the state didn't want to buy the land of where the Flying J and Stoops freightliner exist. Originally they were going to level those businesses but moved the path a little further west.
I have a suspicion that Bloomington might be the control city from Evansville.
There also used to be a sign reading "69 North because 69 East. It's been gone a long time as well, since around 2000.
@@godozo They should've just left them there in my opinion
@@c.t.turner2123 Great info. Thanks!
When I-69 leaves Port Huron en route to Lansing, it is signed West since it follows two old state highways which ran east-west: Old M-21 (which ran between there and Holland before the interstate system) from P.H. to Flint, and Old M-78 from Flint to Lansing, which once ran between the two cities, then southwest to Battle Creek and to Sturgis, just north of I-80/90.
Now M-21 only exists between Grand Rapids and Flint, although it is not followed by an interstate highway today; nearby I-96 follows US 16 in its entirety, which will be quite a while before you do that one. And M-78 only exists just north of Battle Creek and runs east through Bellevue before departing off its original highway alignment to go to I-69 near Olivet; it is a small shell of its former self.
Leaving the United States at the Canadian border there is no check point for US customs. That was a toll booth for the bridge. The bridge across the river from Michigan's lower peninsula to Canada are all toll bridges. Canada on the signs instead of a city makes more sense than posting a city name on there. It wouldn't be Toronto anyway. Sarnia is the city in Canada at the border across the river from Port Huron.
Todd, I'm jealous how well your floating head pops in there
Lol, it looked kind of silly but I didn't have time to re-cut it. Hoping it's less weird next week.
@@ControlCityFreak I'm assuming you had a solid green screen with direct lighting
Day 1 of asking you to cover Highway 401 in Ontario Canada. It is Ontario’s main highway as it runs from the Michigan border to just outside of the Quebec border near Montreal. It is also the busiest freeway in North America trough Toronto as it stretches up to 18 lanes. I think it’s a very interesting highway to cover.
Noted. I plan to do it, but it won’t be for a while.
How cool would that be to have I-69/I-94 signed for Toronto. Good Idea! I know that Interstates can’t go into Canada, but this is the Direct Route to Toronto of you follow Highway 402.
I-87 is signed for Montreal I-29 is signed for Winnepeg and I-5 is signed for Vancouver.
Agreed. Especially when they skip London, Hamilton, and Mississauga. Which I'd probably skip as well.
@@dvferyance and I-15 for Lethbridge.
London would make more sense since it’s closer and a Highway junction but Toronto would work too.
@@highway2heaven91 London is the control city used for ON-402 east which is what I-69 becomes when it enters Canada.
Indiana has renumbered the mile markers and exits along the “legacy” portion of I-69, adding exactly 200 miles to the route, since the new portion enters the state at Evansville. Although I have only been on this highway once, it was easy to tell, as the “Exit Five Corporate Park” in Fishers is now located near exit 205.
I hope that once this final section is complete, they redo the mile markers to reflect the actual mileage to Evansville on the Indy to Angola section
And they added 200 even though it should technically be exit 189 at the exit 5 corporate park
Indiana 37 used to continue as a divided, at-grade highway until Bedford, then became a two-lane near Paoli. (If you remember "Parks and Recreation", the location according to canon would be Paoli, Indiana even if Lafayette's Parks Department was the model.)
I-69 leaves the IN 37 alignment north of Bedford, Indiana, but chances are that people not going on to Evansville are heading to Bedford or Bloomington.
Oh cool, Paoli is the real Pawnee? Nice!
I am from southern indiana and the street view is just a year or two out of date, a lot of that I69 around Martinsville just opened in December.
Thanks, great info!
The west Lansing sign is not for the west side of Lansing, it is for 69 westbound to Lansing. Side note 69 does not go into Lansing or Ingham County.
Fun fact. Since I-69 in Indiana used to start at I-465, that was MM 0 and it went up from there. So the exit of State Road 37 North was Exit 5. MM 100 was in Fort Wayne. Etc. When they started constructions on I-69 in Evansville, they just increased the mile markers from I-465 north by 200 rather than the actual amount to avoid confusion. So at I-465 it is now MM 200. The State Road 37 exit is Exit 205. MM 100 in Fort Wayne is now 300. However, the distance from where I-69 will begin in Evansville to the original starting point at I-465 is about 185 miles, not 200. So most of the mile markers from I-465 northward will be over the actual amount by about 15 miles. And the City of Fishers still has a road called Exit 5 Pkwy even though it is now Exit 205.
Oh interesting!
Yours is the channel I’ve been looking for! I have a birdseye view of the major “Northsplit” project that is kinda flipping 65 and 70 in downtown INDIANAPOLIS to reduce lane weaving and congestion…
Thanks! Ah, so that’s the reason for all the signs on 465 dissuading through traffic from using 65 and 70
I'm guessing the mileage isn't on the southern part to Indy because the road isn't built yet. If the eventual I-69 isn't on the exact path of today's roads, the signs would need to be changed. Granted, that wouldn't be difficult after building a highway, but it's my best guess.
I'm okay with Canada as I think the goal there is to be explicit about the international border.
Great point, but I imagine they know more or less what the route will be. Discontiguous section of 49 in AR have mile markers, and that is way farther from being completed than 69 in IN
Buffalo/ Niagara Falls its Canada 🇨🇦.
Michigan has a few highways that have the opposite direction than you'd expect -- most notably US 24. I-69 is the only Interstate here that does that, though.
I-76 does the opposite thing for the mile it runs in Nebraska, being signed north-south instead of east-west.
Oh cool, didn't know that about 76
Before the current eastern I-84 in Massachusetts was renumbered , its former number, I-86, was signed north-south, but east-west in Connecticut. After the renumbering, I-84 in MA was signed east-west.
According to Wikipedia, the stretch of I-76 in Nebraska was changed to east-west in 2021. So, as far as I know, I-69 in Michigan is currently the only odd-numbered interstate signed east-west. I agree with the comments below this one as to how the southern part of this interstate will be signed once it's built.
@@edwardrasmussen3465 I had a chance to drive on "south" I-76 back in December 2019. Don't remember noticing it at all though, maybe because it was 3 AM and I was just focused on making it to my hotel haha
My opinion: Michigan will someday redesignate US 24 a state highway if Ohio should build most of US 24 to Interstate standard (probably I-72 through Fort Wayne. Anomalous US routes have a high likelihood of getting decommissioned. US 24 is a north-south route in Michigan, and with I-75 and I-275 in the area as alternatives it is unnecessary as a US route.
I have seen the "M-24" diamond on US 24 near the I-94 interchange. That is a mistake, but one that I can understand.
Lived in Ft. Wayne and went to school in Muncie at Ball State so I drove 69 to Ball U.
Right on. A friend of mine went there too.
I went to Ball State from Indy, but only stayed there one year, since my poor secondary school study habits came back to haunt me.
14:59 that should be I-69 East (North) Port Huron Toronto, ON then have milage posts for I-69 East milage origin I-69 North from the MI/IN border as Port Huron Sarnia Toronto
Two sections of I-69 should be completed by the fall of 2024. 1). I-69 between Martinsville and Indianapolis in Indiana will be open to traffic in late 2024, and 2). They are building a bridge over the Ohio River for I-69 between Evansville Indiana and Henderson Kentucky, and that too will be open in late of 2024. Currently, both structures are under construction.
Awesome!
The bridge over the Ohio River will certainly NOT be completed in 2024. They don't even know yet what the bridge will look like, they just know the route it will take. So it certainly is not under construction at the moment. It will be a few years beyond 2024 when the bridge is completed.
Once I 69 is complete from Martinsville to Indianapolis, S.R. 37 will be decompromised between Indianapolis and Bloomington.
It's currently being upgraded in Indiana and Google maps signed that section i-69 all the way to 465
Can't wait until the 401 will connect Detroit and Windsor with I 75
By the time the 69 lands in Texas, the freeway will end in Laredo, where the 69W goes.
Charlotte.... Michigan. Good lord. Amazing green screen work
Thanks! It was a virtual one
Did you know that 69/96 are the only palindrome interstate connection?
I figured it must be, I was trying to think of others yesterday and couldn't
I-69 is very close to finishing in Indiana.
There probably is more mileage of I 69 in Texas than Indiana/Michigan combined. It is US 59 here.
That's the only section I've actually been on, other than an at the time unsigned concurrency on 55
13:09 this remind me of I-80 and I-29’s weird stretch in Omaha.
The southern part of I-69 should be interesting!
Should be cool!
Explanation of no control cities in Fort Wayne:
1. Most of the 469 bypass is in the city of Fort Wayne proper. The city expanded to include all of its county.
2. 469 South goes to Indianapolis.
3. US 24 West goes to a string of Hoosier cities with fewer than 30,000 people, and thence to Peoria. Throughout Indiana west of I-65, Peoria is the control city for good reason: Illinois routed US 24 through a very thinly section of the state east of Peoria where Watseka is the largest town (pop. 4,679) and west of Logansport, IN is our empty quarter.
4. US 24 East would probably be signed for Toledo.
5. US 30 West's control city is Joliet, Illinois. The Chicago connurbation starts outside Valparaiso, Indiana, and all the suburbs long US 30 would scream if a different suburb were named the control city.
6. US 30 East's next control city is Lima, Ohio, and that's being generous. I think Akron is the nearest substantial city.
Better to leave it blank than to list four cities 150-200 miles away.
Great info, but I definitely disagree with the last sentence. 150 miles is hardly some vast expanse that shouldn’t be signed
US 33 goes to Columbus, Ohio to the south and east from Fort Wayne, Much of that section of US 33 is Interstate-grade freeway, but much of it isn't. US 33 goes north and west to Elkhart, a much smaller city than Columbus... and the Indiana Toll Road Concession isn't going to let that become the route of anything near a freeway for a very long time. US 30 angles north of west toward Chicago, and although a divided highway, it is unlikely to be upgraded to freeway for a very long time.
My suspicion is that I-69 in Michigan was once expected to go north from Lansing along the route of US 27 (now US 127) almost due north through Mount Pleasant and Clare to connect to I-75 near Grayling, feeding north to the Mackinac Bridge. Until the 1970's, more of the route along US 27 (now US 127) was freeway while only a small part of future I-69 east of Lansing was freeway Had I=69 been built north, then the eastern part of what we think of as I-69 (Lansing-Flint-Port Huron would have been suggested as either I-98 (arrgh! If there is to be an I-98 in Michigan, then let it be through the Upper Peninsula!) or some three-digit route.
Michigan has been upgrading parts of US 127 north of Jackson to Interstate standards. There is no I-175 in Michigan, and I-175 would make sense should I-73 be objectionable. Adrian seems not to want I-73.
They finally put a pull through sign on N 69 at the N 469 interchange It has Dupont Rd IN 1/ Lansing All three lanes and the right two lanes exit for 469 24/30. If you Street view it at this time you'll see the new sign laying in the grass
I wonder when will the southern section of I-69 be complete. In the mean time, as I-69 is fully complete, it'll become another border to border interstate, even though most border to border interstates have their numbers end in 5.
Will easily be the most impressive x9, unless 29 and 49 merge.
8 Bit, you are absolutely right! Interstate 69 deserves to be a primary interstate with a 5 digit! In my humble opinion, Interstate 45 does not deserve the 5 digit and should be renumbered maybe as a southern I-41, I-43, or I-47. Interstate 69 should be renumbered I-45. What do you think?
@@armandoperez7967 45 being an intrastate highway has always bothered me. Will never happen, but 45 should definitely be extended up to 44
I-69 would also intersect I-55 in Memphis, TN and I-65 in Indianapolis. It traverses from near the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes like I-55 and I-65.
@@darknessnight1115, I-45 is just a state only interstate in Texas and literally replaces US 75 between Galveston, TX and Dallas. What were AASHTO and TxDOT thinking?
4:28 sadly the Indiana welcome sign dose not look like that any more
Nice video. My house is 1 block north of the place you stop at the Michigan customs booth.
Awesome!
Just caught this video thank you for posting, I m born and raised in the State of Michigan, not sure if you already know this but I-69 does not go anywhere near the city of Detroit so, I’m not sure why you posted Detroit on your list in the end of video. I-75, I-94 and I-96 go through the city of Detroit. I-69 is Port Huron, Flint, Lansing and then south.
69 starts out concurrent with 94, 94 goes to Detroit, Detroit is a bigger traffic driver than Flint or Lansing. After the split from 94 sign Flint.
Someone's probably already said it, but Charlotte, Mich. is locally pronounced shar-LOTT. It's a decent-sized city and its county seat; the first time I ever saw its county courthouse I thought I was in Back to the Future. (On second look it's not that close, but you can see how I'd get there.)
Fun fact: Charlotte, MI is pronounced Char-LOT, as opposed to CHAR-lut, with the accent on the second syllable. My goofy MI in-laws will back me up on this.
These regional quirks are always interesting to learn
Locals refer to Char-LOT Char-Tucky.
There should be a sign for the 37 south exit on 465 that has a to I69 shield on it.
Even though IN-37 will be replaced by I-69, the actual interchange with I-465 will be somewhere between Exit 8/7 and Exit 4, as there's far too much crap at the IN-37/Harding St. interchange (I've experienced that horrible interchange, as I used to drive for Werner, which isn't that far from Exit 4).
@@JMccovery the blueprints for it is online
@@JMccovery it will be exit 5, right before harding
My issue with signing Canada as a control point is that it just reinforces the general American ignorance and obliviousness to Canada. Signing a Canadian city just shows that Americans can at least acknowledge the different Canadian cities. I would sign London instead of Toronto because it’s closer and directly on the highway that I-69/96 turns into.
P.S. Nice to finally see you in the flesh!
Thanks! Good points here.
@highway2heaven91 I disagree & here’s how. Canada does the same: “Bridge to the US/USA - Pont vers les EU”. If an American destination is used, it’s the state not the city.
The U.S. does use Canadian cities as destinations. Examples include I-87 North -Montreal (North of Albany NY), I-29 North-Winnipeg (North Dakota) & I-5 North-Vancouver B.C. (Downtown Seattle)
I-69 is a “Detroit Bypass” the way I-57 is a St. Louis bypass if you will. Same with I-74 and the term “Chicago Bypass”, or 80/88 to I-39.
True!
You asked about Petersburg. It was home of Baseball Hall of Famer Gil Hodges. You didn’t mention the rural exits of Oakland City, Princeton. Princeton home of Toyota. Also, U.S. 50 exit at Washington, Indiana in Amish Country and Odin, Indiana.
"Interstate sixty-niiiine, niiiiice" missed opportunity frfr
lol
Lol at 3:46 it's actually pronounced (shar lot) instead of (shar lit) it's very weird, I am from Michigan btw and I-69 is the only 2 digit interstate in Michigan to not go into Detroit or the Detroit area. Can't wait for the I-75 video and I can't wait for your reaction for the control city of Mackinac Bridge (pronounced Mackinaw) for 200 miles, literally, it starts after Saginaw.
Curious what he thinks about 75 South Toledo too
@@Karmy. I think it's a good control city.
@@Karmy. Out of Detroit? Seems like the logical choice.
@@ControlCityFreak yeah exactly
Many moons ago I drove down I-69 on a business trip through Flint and Lansing and there used to be signs that warn of the cardinal directional change of I-69. I don't know if those signs are still there but I guess in the era of satnav they are no longer necessary.
The only mentions of the direction change is on the guide signs at the North Junction...Oddly on East 96 at the exit for East 69 there is no mention of the upcoming concurrency on the pull through
@@danieljackett4193 Ah. Thanks for the update. It had been years since I have been through there so I am certain things have changed.
ONE MORE…..WHAT OUTER LOOP INTERSTATE AROUND THIS CITY GOES THROUGH 3 DIFFERENT STATES?
275 and Cincinnati?
I-70 is going to talk a lot about Kansas City.
My idea for signing cities in the northern portion of I-69 are as follows.:
Northbound:
•Flint, MI
•Lansing, MI
•Fort Wayne, IN
•Indianapolis
•Evansville, IN
(No need for Detroit since it's for I-94 only. Speaking of I-94, for westbound, after Detroit, it's Chicago, but for me, I'll sign a few secondary control cities in Michigan above Chicago.)
Southbound:
•Indianapolis
•Fort Wayne, IN
•Lansing, MI
•Flint, MI
•Port Huron, MI
•Sarnia 🇨🇦
(No need for Toronto yet, but after crossing into Southwestern Ontario, if you use eastbound 401 or 402, London, ON is the next city to sign before Toronto which is fine by me. Plus, the 402 does meet the 401 in London, ON.)
I’d still argue that it’s the fastest way to Toronto from that point, and Sarnia is not too well known in the US
My Control Cities for I-69 (Including I-69E)
Corpus Christi
Houston
Lufkin / Shreveport
Shreveport
Memphis
Indianapolis
Evansville / Indianapolis
Bloomington / Indianapolis
Indianapolis
Fort Wayne
Lansing
Flint
Port Huron
Canada
14:09 - I like this part. (I-69 & I-96)
Is this the only palindrome of the Interstate highways?
I think it is. 78 and 87 come real close but not quite
@@ControlCityFreak I-87 and I-278 meet in Bronx NY .
I know there are more important projects on Arkansas' plate (57 and 49) but I believe I-69 will help DFW-bound traffic coming from Memphis (and vice versa). 30 and 40 in Arkansas are just choked with truck traffic and I'm not sure if just adding more lanes on 30 and 40 would do it. 40 needs to be six lanes from I-81 to OKC, regardless of whether 69 ever gets built in Arkansas.
40 is always super busy, got stuck in a massive traffic jam once near Knoxville, was like LA traffic
@@ControlCityFreak That is terrible
From what I’ve seen, the only interstate project that Arkansas is really focused on right now is an interstate that connects NW Arkansas with the Tulsa metro (possibly I-42?). I-69 is in front of I-49 on the priority list though.
@@highway2heaven91 Well, it's possible a large chunk of I-69 will be built before the long mountainous stretch of I-49 is built from Greenwood to Texarkana, but Arkansas is going to aim to get the stack interchange and AR River bridge at 49/40 built hopefully in the next ten years. And I-57 will probably be done before 69 gets built. The large problem, I believe is, neither MS or LA are invested right now with I-69. There will have to be another MS river bridge. The new US 82 bridge wasn't intended to be the I-69 bridge.
Another solution for DFW-bound traffic is extending I-45 to Tulsa, so then travelers from Chicago or STL can take I-44 + I-45 to DFW - easier access.
I-69 will help Houston-bound traffic more. If you’re coming from the north such as Michigan or Indiana, you have to take I-69 + I-70 + I-57 + I-55 + I-40 + I-30 + US 59 to Houston. With I-69, it’ll a straight shot. I-369 will help travelers from Little Rock & Texarkana that’s going to Houston (I-369 + I-69).
I-57 & I-69 will ease the traffic between Little Rock & Nashville on I-40 - since there’s tons of folks going to Texas, including truckers.
There's some parts of interstate 69 in Texas too
Made a video breaking it all down th-cam.com/video/cJe22XrdQGI/w-d-xo.html
In Michigan Charlotte is pronounced Char-LOT. Don't get the people riled up here.
Always interesting to learn these regional quirks!
Did you know that I-69 around Evansville used to be I-164?
I did. I mentioned that right at the start of the northbound section
Is agree that 69/94 into candy should be Toronto but 96 and M10 in Detroit both go to Canada to so maybe Windsor and Toronto both?
Yeah maybe that. I fell like Windsor is a lot more widely known in the States than Sarnia or London, especially in the Detroit area so Windsor alone is probably ok there
Actually, the Control City for 402 in Canada is London...Where the 402 meets the 401 to go to Toronto
I-69 in the Interstate Highway Act of 1956 was supposed to end at the first I-94 interchange in Marshall...Michigan had to petition Congress for the 165 miles to the 2nd I-94 interchange...First to I-75 in 1968, then to Port Huron in 1983
Like the rest of the freeway, I-69 in Michigan was done in segments...The first section, from Morrice to Swartz Creek was completed in 1961 (before I-69 was approved for the highway)... from the Michigan State Line to the 1st I-94 interchange in 1967...I-94 to Charlotte, and Swartz Creek (through Flint) to Lapeer in 1971...Lapeer to Port Huron in 1984...Perry to I-96 North junction in 1991, and Charlotte to the I-96 south junction in 1992
Also I-69 from the I-96 North junction to Port Huron runs in a general East-West direction, so it makes sense that it's the cardinal direction
Thanks, great info!
The most confusing interstate I've ever seen
For sure
@@ControlCityFreak Probably going to take a few more episodes to sort this one out too.
I at least understand this route once it’s completed, although the 3 way split in Texas is bewildering. I’m still trying to figure out how I-74 is supposed to connect from the original terminus in Cincinnati to the new segment in North Carolina, where it even overlaps with US 74.
@@coryburris8211 Yeah got plenty to say on that in upcoming episodes
100% Agreed. I live of 69 in Houston Texas and personally I can’t imagine trying to travel that interstate to the north right now.
Do a video on I-495 on Long Island NY.
For whatever reason Charlotte, MI is pronounced “Shar-LOT” rather than like Charlotte, NC - was quickly corrected when I moved to Lansing as I also thought it was pronounced like Charlotte, NC
I was gonna say that too.
@@abutts02 I got corrected on that, but the opposite way, as I live in Michigan. .
they should make a junction with I-420
lol
There is no I-420.
@@dvferyance I wish there was lol.
@@mxderateprod Well ask the Georgia and SC DOT to renumber I-520 it should have an even first number since it's a beltway.
@@dvferyance True. It should be named the Weed Fwy.
It’s weird that jus like I69 is north and south and east and west at different points that US 33 is north and south in Indiana but in Richmond va US 33 is east and west
33 is pretty rangy, definitely a candidate for US highways I'll cover
Goes thru Short Pump.
Yesss the video I’ve been waiting on. Finally in my state! Michigan
Lots of Michigan content coming up!
The reason 469 said Ft Wayne is because it just goes around Ft Wayne. 469 does not connect to Toledo, OH. US hwy 24 is what connects Ft Wayne with Toledo
I know it doesn't go to Toledo, but 3dis are signed for cities they don't actually go to all the time.
@@ControlCityFreak Okay. Just wanted to be sure because of the mentions in the video of 469 going to Toledo
The guide signs on I-69 at for I-475 in Flint list Detroit and Saginaw as it's control cities
It’s ok. Not many people know much about southern indiana. That’s kinda why 69 will now exist…to link southern indiana to the rest of the country!
I’ve tried making the list twice now, but have accidentally deleted it before completion or posted it prematurely. I’m just going to skip the destinations off of other freeway interchanges and only focus on the primary controls; half of the list would otherwise be occupied by the southeastern diagonal of the Indianapolis beltway.
North/East
Bloomington
Indianapolis
Fort Wayne
Lansing
Flint
Sarnia
London
West/South: Flint
Lansing
Fort Wayne
Indianapolis
Bloomington
Evansville
This is a nice freeway
lol
I love your content
Thanks!
The new I69 Ohio River bridge can’t come soon enough. Any wreck, no matter how minor on 41 will inevitably back up traffic at least an hour.
That bridge looks pretty worn down on GSV
I do find it odd for Ft. Wayne being the control city on the pull through for wbd. 69 at the US 127 interchange
Grand Rapids would also be valid because 69 leads to 96. Fort Wayne and Grand rapids are similar in size. 69 and 96 are now the quickest route between Flint and Grand Rapids.
You said Lansing at the beginning, when the sign said Flint. lol.
Nice
This is definitely one of your weirdest videos yet.
Yes finally my most used interstate!
Nice
@@darknessnight1115 lol
It's mostly new to me, I've only been on a short part in downtown Houston.
So... Unless you are from the Lansing area, Most people don't know you don't pronounce it Charlotte that would make sense lol! It's pronounced Shar Lot. Very different we know 🤷♂️ Bedford has a small General Motors plant there, the major employer in town.
1:57 Detroit & Flint ( not Lansing )
D'oh!
SOUTH(WEST)
Flint/Detroit(bc 94)
Flint
Lansing
Fort Wayne
Indianapolis
Bloomington(IN)
Evansville
“Kentucky” once in Evansville
NORTH(EAST)
Evansville/Indianapolis on the Kentucky Side of the border on new bridge?
Indianapolis(Bloomington less of a draw Northbound). Could use as a secondary.
Fort Wayne
Lansing
Flint
Port Huron
Canada(Sarnia, London ON, Toronto?)
when I clicked on this video in 2024 it had 369 likes.
Nice 👍
Hi Todd! Good to see a face finally.
Thanks! Trying to tinker around with different things
How many interstate highways does 80 meet with excluding the 3 digit ones with the same number in the last two digits?
Gotta be a lot
I-90 is the longest interstate in the US
@@ControlCityFreak I said that how many north to south interstate meets with 80
Once I-69 is complete from Indianapolis to Memphis, do you think it should just pull an I-57 and be signed straight for Memphis SB from Indianapolis and vice versa?
I would think they would sign Evansville. But from there I could see them using Memphis.
I would much rather see Memphis than Evansville imo. They should pull an Illinois and just sign Memphis in Indianapolis and then forget about it and sign Evansville for the rest of the state until you reach Evansville.
Control city will be Evansville after Indianapolis on I-69, since it’s one of the largest cities in Indiana. Memphis will be the control city after Evansville, since it’ll be a straight shot through Western Kentucky and most of Tennessee, since Memphis sits at the western-bottom edge of Tennessee.
@@justinsmith2598 Probably but I doubt Evansville will be used NB until Kentucky. Tennessee will likely use Dyersburg.
nice
469 east from 69 northbound south of Fort Wayne should have Toledo and perhaps Lima as a control city. 469 east from 69 southbound should have Lima or Columbus (Ohio!) as a control city.
Agree
I 70 will finally be soon a few months ago I was hoping I 70
Not long now!
I heard that I-69 is also known as the "Bill Clinton" freeway.
It would make perfect sense if Arkansas builds their segment of I-69. Side note: Exit 69 on I-40 in Oklahoma is a westbound only exit to Clinton.
Shar-LOT, Michigan!