Low-Cost Dry Pigments - Honest Guide
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Thanks for posting! As much as I love modelling I sometimes hate the sky-high prices of some of the paints, materiels, etc. that I like to use. ANY video that helps me and my fellow modelers save money is a much appreciated. :)
Before these manufacturers bottled pigments, we used this technique, about 40 years ago !!!
David, excellent video! Expect a tense call from Mig !!
orbitalair Yep, been using pastels for MANY years (what's old is new again - lol). I find the colour of pigments to be a bit denser but pastels still give excellent results.
Dear Sir, just one question, can you use hard pastels (stick shaped ones), to make pin washes and general washes on acrylic water based paints like the ones from AMMO and AK-Interactive or must be used only on enamels?. Can be the water replaced with odourless thinner for the mix?. Best regards!
@@pucarasetenta4361 Absolutely, just try different mixtures until you find what works for you.
This is a good idea and was first used years ago before pigments became common. There's a big "However" however. Pastel sticks have a binder - when you grind them the binder stays with the pigments. This can sometimes help because the pigments will often cling with little or no fixer. (Micro Mark sells a set of Doc O'Brien's pigments that have a binder.) But if you want to make complex pigment effects I'd recommend unadulterated pigments - they're simply different. They'll require some kind of fixer (which actually helps: usually mineral spirits or ISP) and have a richer color. Plasmo is sure right about one thing. You don't need a zillion colors - if you have white, black, ocher, burnt umber and sienna you're fixed up for any earth pigment. (Pastels can help if you want to use pigments to fade model surfaces like blue or green on aircraft - there you want them to stick without fixer.) The cheapest and best pigments are found at art store. If you check Blick or any other art store you'll find pigments from the best oil paint companies on earth made for those painters who still like to make their own paints. Bottles are much larger than from model companies. Mine are from the fine US maker Gamblin, and the ritzy French company Sennelier. Either are about one quarter the cost of MIG, AK, Flory etc etc. So I've spent about $40 and have top notch pigments that will last forever. Plasmo's idea is good, but especially if you get serious with armor, use the real stuff - it's better for most things.
Eric Bergerud i can easily get acetone or turpentine based thinners, do you have an idea will those work aswell ?
As for for the pigments, i reckon those will be relatively easy to locate .
I have made pigments using ..erhm.. pumpkin seeds and pine flowers
Finer mix is literally airborn and i cant even see it, and larger ones i can use with PvA to Create forest stuff, and unrefined works perfectly for leaves in 1:72/ 1/56 scale and flowers in 1/35
(Unpainted is like autumn leaves, painted are up to scale with few European tree leaves)
Seriously you have done that? WOW!
That’s a great idea, just a little tip, if you don’t have any small glass jars available, I pick up the individual miniture jam jars from coffee shops for my paint mixing
I have been using pastels for almost 20 years. Long before pigments were sold in little jars. I really like the way you scraped the pigments into jars though. I have always done it making colors as I go rather than scrape up the entire pigment stick.This was a good tutorial. Jay
as much as i find the pigment powder technique a life saver, that technique for making caked on mud at 3:30 is amazing!
PROish TIP: A fun extra touch you can do when you create custom colors is you can spray your bottle caps the same color to match. It looks great on your shelf and makes identifying much easier.
fantastic work great video as always👍✌
Great video David, your vids have helped me get back into modelling after 40+ years without breaking the bank. thank you so very much
toto by mne nikdy nenapadlo a zrovna jsem si říkal že potřebuji nové pigmenty. DÍKY
Great tip!, im getting back into building models and been looking at paint kits, i was shocked at the prices, the same could be said about the pigments, so this vid has helped me loads, thanks!, keep up the good work. All the best.
yes I think so synonymous, the video is super helpful👍✌
I don't know why, but for some reason it never occurred to me to mix ground pigments until you said it; when I first got back into model building/painting I went and did this as well, figuring it would work out and I was not disappointed. As far as the soft pastels, if I'm not mistaken they actually have an oil base which is why they adhere to the surface in a higher concentration.
We rely far too much on commercially made products these days - great video!
Instead of using the tea basket, I recommend getting a cheap kitchen mortar and pestle to grind the pastels down; the effect is the same but it's much faster and less tiring.
This is a great video, looking forward to more like it.
As an aside, my dad once told me that when he was kid, to weather model tanks he'd go out in the back yard and throw handfuls of dirt and dust at them until he got the result he wanted xD
Was half-expecting him to clean up the mold line on the side of the pastel
Thanks for making these wonderful videos, David! 😀
Zdarec Davide, výbornej tip na pigmenty, myslím že hlavně u nás to extrémně ocení:) Hele popřemýšlej o patentování těch tvých spousty super nápadů :)
Thank you David, this is very good. And thank you for the idea with the mesh. This is genious. I have tried soft pastels allready on my latest model and it is so simple, cheap and a creates a very nice result.
Thanks for this video. I'm always excited to see you post a new video, but this kind - focusing on techniques or in this case stuff you can use is super
Great job David! Thanks for making this video, me and my friend have been looking at all these pigments and other stuff and saying, Thats just hard pastels! Its a bit more convenient, yes. And all the custom colors out there, however, if your tight on money, or have the time to mix your own stuff, which gives you control of the mixture.
great video for the newer modellers that dont know about this. so i thank you very much . you think of your fans you are awesome david best wishes from england \m/
Great video. First time I seen soft one been used. Cheers Graham
THANK YOU !!! I needed video like this . You are great.
I am always happy again !!! he does a great job👍✌
Some hobbys are really inexpensive and some are not like this one...but if you are gonna get it done and don't have the cash you will still find a creative and much cheaper way to buck the system👍. Looking through YT really helps and then again most houses have boxes in the basement filled with everything you need,just dont burn the house down by mixing crazy chems.Thank you kind of part of the hobby how it was a piece of trash but turned out so cool lookin. Plus I'm there(BROKE) my last day at work was mid Sept when I got a surprise, not a good one Dr. said I have a brain lymphoma,that's cancer the size of a golfball🙁and its been no fun and it's just begun, but I twiddle some wood sticks and paint a foam rock wall every day😊😉🤷so if there's a will there's a way!
A really helpful tutorial! Thank you!
I have come up with this idea when making my first models. It turned out that i had some chalk pastels lying around, so i repirposed them for that.
Mig, Vallejo and AK all thumb down this video!
Again David, great work! Thank you
he does a great job👍✌
I like glass bottles too, but you can buy 200 gram of artist pigments for 5-6 pound. If you buy 4 - 7 different earth colours you will have enough pigment for a lifetime. Never worry about it again.
Through a mesh! This is genius!
This is great. Thanks for sharing.
Nice job!thanks for these tips.I'll be using them
Thank you Kanye, very cool!
Excellent advice! Now I can spend $$ on kits instead of overpriced pastels!😬
Jman👀
Hi I just found your channel and I love your video on pigments and using art supplies. I do model railroads and I'm looking to take the Shine off of plastic models and Edson weathering. If you have any tips I'd appreciate it by the way I believe in the saving money also but do appreciate the work that big manufacturers have put into their products for quality. Personally I use $0.05 construction paper in Black for all of my road work instead of spending big bucks on pre-made stuff
Wow great tipp's for beginners that don't have the big buged like me, i currently work on a M4A3 75mm Sherman in 1/35 frpm Tamiya, and i really want to start weathering as soon as im finished with base colours shade and details ( so painting in generel ^^ ) anyway thank you for your great tipp's :)
OMG. these techniques helped me a lot thanks man i
appreciative for that
Thank you for sharing your experience!
You're a master. You make it look so easy
Awesome. Thank you for all your videos. They really have helped improve my model making skills.
Genious. This can save time and effort, also it is very efficient. Keep up the good work!
that's great idea & informative for newbie like me
thanks for the tips bro
When will you make the next honest guides vid now that you are planning on making more tutorials after the P47 thunderbolt?
This is an amazing technique! I'll have to try this out some time!
Excellent video. Thanks for that!
Genious! Thanks a lot from a fellow Slovak! ;)
No only spraying colour or painting colour!But used fingers without brushes!Used art pencils or art coal pens maybe another choice!
I use the same pastels. 👍
Very nice mate.
This is very helpful also I’m still waiting for more ship models
Your videos are awesome!
Thank you, just this, a big thanks
Thanks for the Cheat! it's good to let others know the insider tricks!
Nice one, thanks!
yes just great, I'm excited about his work👍✌
Lovely!! Nice serie concept too.
I love your videos and have learned alot from them. I would like to see you build a Classic Airframes Moraine Saulner MS 406. Please.
Very nice.
Thanks, very useful video!
Hi, Plasmo. Speaking about your previous video, I want you to make videos longer, because this way I can spend more time with usility and pleasure your models
So interesting and ingenious!
David when are you going to do the diorama you said when you build that really tiny plane.
What size mesh sheets and the brand of pastels? Also really nice work love your videos. Just got back into the hobby after 20 years and your videos have helped me out getting fought back up. Keep pumping out the videos.
Really helpful!!!! Greatly appreciate
Perfect guide! Thx
Your video's are great!
Great video
Outstanding!!
This is nice, I learned a lot
Hi,
At first I love your chanel.
I found that you can buy artistic pigments, in art shops, in really good price. For 70g I paid about 8pln ~1.8EUR. They are really good, in many colors.
You can add some white spirit to them and then they will looks like mud.
Moreover there is no binders, just pigment.
have to use a different brand , in Australia those pastels , are $55 and up
Have you got a "tuto" about the Sherman shown in this video?
It is pretty nice!
Can you build a airfix Folland Gnat, or a Y-Wing from bandai I REALLY suggest the Y-Wing, lots of small parts and very detailed it is a great modela
Please build the 40m turán
Great videos as always, if I may suggest , is it possible to make a video on airbrush cleaning and maintenance ? Thanks
It will be partly in the next video, but I will make one video only about airbrush and apitbrush maintenance.
This is going to sound foolish, but what tools do you have for your models? Have to get a lot of it myself.
Great tot make this 👍
Excellent tip. Are the soft pastel also called oil pastel ?
Ohhhhhhhh!!!!! exciting!!!!!
cmon David make a 1/35 tank(how about a nice jagdpanther?) or a big scale aircraft please, and Im still waiting for that bentley blower
Can I fix the pigments with only water?
No, you need to dilute the top layer of paint so the pigments can stick to it, you have to use thinner or pigment fixer.
I don't have enamel thinner...any tips?
I bought some of these last year seeing this and am about to have a go at using them!! Also I've been told that gram for gram there is much more pigment in these as the hobby pigments have a lot of chalk in!! Rip off or what!!!!
Any tips on generic fixers???
Will the enamel thinner not destroy the acrylic paint i use for basecoat/or other details??
Wow!
Amd they were the combination of what to make some dry pigments? Please share your ideas
That so cool thank you 🎈
Hi David another great video. How do you know what colours to mix to get specific colors?
Very interesting video. Great idea! ;)
GAME CHANGER!!!!!!!!
This is cleaver way thx for it!
what do you use as fixer?
Excellent! Nice advice! I did the same thing with my pastels! But in order to fix the pigment could I use whote spirit or turpentine?
Will you show builds of that models?
Is it possible to thin the soft pastels with regular water?
Which pastel brands do you recommend that won't harm the plastic and the dried paint coating?
Are you make an strv?
hi David, great video , what are the benefits of being patreon
It would good to see what are beat solutions for make an ocean for example for 1/700 aircraft carrier :)
Beat Regards