Top 10 BEST (and worst) Sonic villains

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    Sonic the Hedgehog[a] is a Japanese video game series and media franchise created by Sega. The franchise follows Sonic, an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog who battles the evil Doctor Eggman, a mad scientist. The main Sonic the Hedgehog games are platformers mostly developed by Sonic Team; other games, developed by various studios, include spin-offs in the racing, fighting, party and sports genres. The franchise also incorporates printed media, animations, feature films, and merchandise.
    Sega developed the first Sonic game, released in 1991 for the Sega Genesis, to compete with Nintendo's mascot Mario. Its success helped Sega become one of the leading video game companies during the fourth generation of video game consoles in the early 1990s. Sega Technical Institute developed the next three Sonic games, plus the spin-off Sonic Spinball (1993). A number of Sonic games were also developed for Sega's 8-bit consoles, the Master System and Game Gear. After a hiatus during the unsuccessful Saturn era, the first major 3D Sonic game, Sonic Adventure, was released in 1998 for the Dreamcast. Sega exited the console market and shifted to third-party development in 2001, continuing the series on Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation systems.
    While Sonic games often have unique game mechanics and stories, they feature recurring elements such as the ring-based health system, level locales, and fast-paced gameplay. Games typically feature Sonic setting out to stop Eggman's schemes for world domination, and the player navigates levels that include springs, slopes, bottomless pits, and vertical loops. Later games added a large cast of characters; some, such as Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, and Shadow the Hedgehog, have starred in spin-offs. The franchise has crossed over with other video game franchises in games such as Mario & Sonic, Sega All-Stars, and Super Smash Bros.
    Sonic the Hedgehog is Sega's flagship franchise and one of the bestselling video game franchises, selling over 140 million units by 2016 and grossing over $6 billion as of 2020. Series sales and free-to-play mobile game downloads totaled 1.5 billion as of 2022. The Genesis Sonic games have been described as representative of the culture of the 1990s and listed among the greatest of all time. Although later games, notably the 2006 series reboot, received poorer reviews, Sonic is influential in the video game industry and is frequently referenced in popular culture. The franchise is known for its fandom that produces unofficial media, such as fan art and fangames.

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  • @seematahir5970
    @seematahir5970 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    Ironically I think most people missed the point of Neo Metal. He essentially represents Metal Sonic's identity crisis; the realization that he is nothing more than a clone of Sonic and is not his own person is what drove him to madness. It's why he betrayed Eggman, why he gave himself a voice, why he turned himself into a hulking kaiju. He is trying to distance himself from Sonic and become his own person. Just listen to his dialogue in the boss fight, or hell even the lyrics to "What I'm Made Of".
    It's honestly kind of genius and a really cool thing for a kid's video game to do, to this day its probably his most interesting portrayal in a Sonic game.

    • @zoro2900
      @zoro2900 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      thanks for understanding

    • @agentomecha634
      @agentomecha634 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I couldn’t have put this better myself.

    • @sirthunderclaps4306
      @sirthunderclaps4306 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Underrated comment

    • @nessaparkinson
      @nessaparkinson ปีที่แล้ว +25

      THIS is exactly what I really needed to read this is ABSOLUTTLEY 100% correct and 'm not being sarcasticd

    • @Snooperiso
      @Snooperiso ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree with you

  • @kahboom76
    @kahboom76 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Neo Metal Sonic is probably my favorite Sonic villain because his whole thing seemed about gaining individuality with the addition of dominance. Imagine your whole identity being just a copy of someone else and your only motivation is just to surpass the original. Neo Metal lifted those limitations by showing that his skills/intelligence make him more than just a lacky and just as menacing as Eggman if not more.

    • @jayceallen6530
      @jayceallen6530 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Neo metal was so good in the idw

    • @min2793
      @min2793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      arent neo metal and metal the same person

    • @PositiveNihilism.
      @PositiveNihilism. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same.

    • @SoundwaveSuperior6969
      @SoundwaveSuperior6969 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Metal (both his Neo and normal variants) was probably the one and only Sonic villain that had the most character development and impact as a proper rival to Sonic, Eggman just hates Sonic for destroying his machines, Infinite hates Sonic for some reason, Shadow hates Sonic because he thinks Sonic is the fake, but Metal Sonic hates Sonic because he believes he’s the original, not the copy, and in IDW, after almost 30 years of thinking the same thing, Metal had to come to terms with him being the copy, which is honestly really sad, unlike Shadow’s “death” or Blaze’s disappearance in 06, you can just feel Metal’s thoughts through wordless panels on paper

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SoundwaveSuperior6969 Infinite and his jackals were essentially Eggman messing with mad science by creating super soldiers in his final judgement lab, and pretty much giving them fake memories to let them show their capabilities in their mercenary careers, which almost ends up killing him like always. Basically a Shadow born without his own power source.

  • @goncalomoledo5373
    @goncalomoledo5373 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Kishimoto already confirmed that both Mephiles and infinite can comeback in future sonic titles

    • @Nedum05
      @Nedum05 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I just hope that they’re canon

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Fingers crossed there'll be follow up on that.

    • @thepurpleblurr
      @thepurpleblurr ปีที่แล้ว +20

      MEPHILES IN SONIC FRONTIERS 2

    • @christopherford39
      @christopherford39 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Holy heck, he did?

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Nedum05 what? They were always canon

  • @surgeeo1406
    @surgeeo1406 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    About The End being seen as the Moon, Sonic has this friend who's into fortune cards, maybe he was unwillingly informed about Tarot symbology. The moon card is a really bad time, the moon is what stares down at you when you're lost and stranded in the night, it symbolizes the cruelty of Nature when you're at your most vulnerable.
    So, very fitting.

    • @bakedbeans5494
      @bakedbeans5494 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the worst Sonic villains.

    • @paskariu
      @paskariu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fun fact: that friend into tarot cards is Amy. It's just a rather obscure (well less now that the IDW comic referenced it) character detail

    • @Nabnab_TheTwistedOne
      @Nabnab_TheTwistedOne ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bakedbeans5494what do you mean worst ?

    • @bakedbeans5494
      @bakedbeans5494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nabnab_TheTwistedOne The End was self-overhyped.

    • @Nabnab_TheTwistedOne
      @Nabnab_TheTwistedOne ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bakedbeans5494 I technically wouldn't call it the worst since Imperitur IX and Erazor Djinn exist but okay

  • @surgeeo1406
    @surgeeo1406 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    To this day, I still believe that the best way to bring Infinite back and do him justice would be on Ian jr's debut game, that would just make sense...

  • @LeSkyBoi
    @LeSkyBoi ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Honestly I like the "concept" of Wendy Witchcart. It's a basic idea of technology versus magic which if the character gets utilized in the future, could bring an added layer of how both affect the word around them. Cause, nowadays I don't exactly think there are a lot of magic-users in the world of Sonic, at least in the modern-games. So introducing a character that dabbles in those kinds of mystical/strange arts against Tails who's moreso grounded in the "real-world" with technology, could bring up an interesting dynamic.

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    You should make a list of your favorite depictions of Dr. Robotnik/Eggman in the Sonic series. You could lump together the various iterations (Adventure, Boom, Boost, etc.), but I'd personally like to see each game and show rated separately. Robotnik was different between Adventure 1 and Adventure 2, after all. Ultimately, it's up to you what you want to do.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's a solid idea.

    • @thegeth4293
      @thegeth4293 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      eggman at the end of unleashed, during the egg dragoon fight, was the peak of eggman.

    • @mistersp3753
      @mistersp3753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChannelPup You ain't kiddin'!

  • @LucasHopkins2006
    @LucasHopkins2006 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Honestly when I heard The End and Mephiles are very similar I was about to argue otherwise until I thought about what they both did and yeah they’re actually pretty similar, still not sure if The End was meant to be something for people who wanted Mephiles back I think that might’ve just been a coincidence but yeah
    Anyway my favorites are definitely Metal Sonic and Mephiles (I’m not counting Shadow in most of SA2 and Knuckles in most of Sonic 3&K), both of them highlighting what’s great about Sonic and Shadow, Metal being devoid of life where Sonic is full of it and feeling like everything Sonic is making sure he doesn’t become and Mephiles being like the devil of Shadow’s shoulder constantly trying to make him turn on his friends and allies only for Shadow to refuse every time and it’s always great in my opinion

  • @fictiontheorizer4253
    @fictiontheorizer4253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Neo Metal Sonic's story actually perfectly fits what you're describing. He drives himself insane trying to beat Sonic and prove himself as both a unique and superior individual. Just go back to his boss fight dialogue.
    Mephiles the Dark is a uniquely fairy tale villain. He's the boogieman in the dark, the shadow stalking the princess and her knight. He doesn't work in another context because you would have to so drastically alter the character it would no longer be Mephiles.
    He shouldn't come back. They can't do him justice without repeating themselves and they know it.
    Infinite really shouldn't be graded as high as he based on potential alone. Most characters have potential, but few realize it. Melina was definitely a better villain writing wise.

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'd like to see the SatAM Robotnik show up in Prime and just take over everything. It's never going to happen, unless they want to completely change the tone going forward, but maybe that's for the best. The Council of Eggmen just doesn't feel like a competent ruling body to me.

    • @maciejas2471
      @maciejas2471 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't know. On one hand, yeah he is cool. However that would mean demands for Sally and Freedom Fighters would skyrocket. And we all know what type of mine field that can be
      Edit: I must have missed reading. My bad

    • @mistersp3753
      @mistersp3753 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maciejas2471 That's why it will never happen.

    • @prufan
      @prufan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maciejas2471 Satam Robotnik can and should be in Prime, same with Sally etc, there's a large demand for these characters and it's mind boggling that a show by Wildbrain, that's about essentially the multiverse, doesn't have any of them, they'd sell far more than the lame alternatives in Prime.
      There's nothing wrong with the demand for those characters rising.

  • @garrettviewegh677
    @garrettviewegh677 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope we see Shadow back as a serious anti-hero with more humanity than he likes to admit, instead of a simple edgelord rival to Sonic. The dark hedgehog used to be so much smarter, cunning, and complex. He wasn’t that deep, but he wasn’t tragic and edgy for the sake of it either. Sonic may seem more empathetic and caring compared to Shadow, but Shadow does care, he just has reasons for not being so open. He takes his job seriously because he doesn’t want anyone else to suffer like Maria did, and he’ll do whatever it takes to keep the world safe, even if it means utterly destroying his enemies.

  • @bagelgod946
    @bagelgod946 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If they made neo have more of base metal sonic’s personality instead of just being a evil overlord, lean a bit more into his identity crisis, and let us fight the neo form instead of just bootleg perfect chaos. He would have been one of the best sonic villains.

    • @evanlif
      @evanlif ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean he did copy the gene of chaos

  • @mr.unpopularopinion6431
    @mr.unpopularopinion6431 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Has a big fan of infinite, I'm happy people are starting to at least think he isn't bad. I will admit has a fan, his backstory should've been better but the reason why I love the character unironically is because he reminds me of a late 2000s edgy cartoon character(not edgelord just edgy) and I like edgy characters but also his design,voice and powers are cool too. To me, he's the reason why I somehow enjoy sonic forces. But again, I do agree that he could've been better

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s less that he has a bad backstory and it’s more like they didn’t fully explain it despite it making a lot of sense with his song and why he views his life as zero to be an illusion (he was created by Eggman to live this manufactured life, similar to Shadow having his memories altered to make his life about killing everyone.

  • @dexterpurvis5331
    @dexterpurvis5331 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I will never forgive you for doing neo Metal this dirty

  • @Mike-1911
    @Mike-1911 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’d argue that Rusty Rose is an Enforcer for the Chaos Council, like Mecha Sally in the pre-genesis wave Archie Sonic comics

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally would have to disagree about Neo Metal Sonic.
    To me, I think it was rather interesting seeing Metal Sonic’s drive to defeat sonic, no matter the cost take into it the logical extreme. To fill his sole purpose, he concluded that he had to conquer the Eggman empire. With all of the resources he now had he devised a plan to replicate the powers of the heroes and unlike his maniacal creator, metal sonic was smart enough to keep himself hidden until all the preparation‘s were made.
    I especially like how metal sonic is finally able to speak. Although I normally like metal sonic being voiceless has a way of mirroring how sonic uses wisecracks, it is nice seeing how metal truly feels about things.
    and as a final note, although I agree, it would’ve been awesome just to fight neo, metal sonic in his base form, and argue. The metal overlord is almost a mirror of supersonic. They’re both the ultimate forms of these rivals, oh, and sonic harnesses his true power he becomes a golden god, while metal sonic becomes a hideous, metallic monster.

  • @ryanlozano9086
    @ryanlozano9086 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You forgot that mephiles was the only villain who’s goals were reach and the ONLY one to have killed sonic and have dire consequences

  • @jamainegardner4193
    @jamainegardner4193 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was mad that Mephiles is so low but then I saw that you put Villain Shadow/Knuckles in the top 2 and saw it was more acceptable. Me personally I'd still put Mephiles as second only to Eggman himself, but Villain Shadow is great too.

  • @olliesidaway
    @olliesidaway ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve always believed that if you changed one thing about infinite, it would’ve made him 1000x more interesting, just make him the Sonic equivalent of the Scarecrow from Batman. Don’t just have Have him conjure any illusions, have him conjure illusions of peoples fears. It’d make him a lot more intimidating as basic every character would be challenged since they’d have to face their innate fears but it’d make everyone else more interesting as well seeing their fears. Hell, he practically sounds like Scarecrow

  • @Franubian
    @Franubian ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where's The Barrel of Doom? Its backstory is amazing and poses a real threat IN-GAMEPLAY unlike most other sonic villains.

  • @joeboosta6309
    @joeboosta6309 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For all the reasons you mentioned, I agree that Shadow does deserve to be in the #1 spot on this list. I think that Movie Shadow may likely get shown more like the SA2 version of him instead of like an edgeloard, especially because I've heard that the director, (Jeff Fowler,) is a big fan of that character and even worked on the CGI movie production of Shadow's own 2005 spin-off game. He likely knows a good amount about what that character was originally like, and from being a fan he may possibly not want Shadow to be written wrongly in it. They said that they will be adapting an amount of elements from SA2 into that highly anticipated upcoming movie, so that could help too.

  • @zephon6745
    @zephon6745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are three main Sonic comics Fleetway's Sonic The Comic (STC), Archie Sonic comic, and IDW Sonic Comic.

  • @vexyrose5858
    @vexyrose5858 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Zavok is really amazing in the Idw comics

  • @cameronmeder166
    @cameronmeder166 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for putting shadow as number 1 he is my favorite character

    • @cameronmeder166
      @cameronmeder166 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also I kinda like neo metal Sonic mainly all his designs and voice

  • @penprp
    @penprp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic vs. the End keeps reminding me of this exchange from Gaiman's "The Sandman," when Choronzon and Dream are playing "The Oldest Game."
    Choronzon: I am anti-life, the beast of judgement. I am the dark at the end of everything-- gods, worlds, universes, everything. Sss. And what will you be, Dreamlord?
    Dream: I am hope.
    Choronzion: I... I... I don't know.
    As for Shadow, I think Sega keeps wanting to make him an anti-hero, but they don't know how to do it consistently and he just keeps coming across as a jerk.

  • @demonking3673
    @demonking3673 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mephiles is my favorite Sonic villain

    • @AwshomeHat
      @AwshomeHat ปีที่แล้ว

      Why

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is coming back?

    • @spyduc
      @spyduc ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AwshomeHat Because he killed Sonic with no effort. And of course, he has a badass looking.

    • @demonking3673
      @demonking3673 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shardsoftime0952 It’s actually more of a possibility than you realize

    • @demonking3673
      @demonking3673 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AwshomeHat He’s terrifying and is a serious threat

  • @ethejumper6568
    @ethejumper6568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay here are my 3 favourite Sonic Antagonists/Villains:
    1. SAGE (She does what Infinite don´t)
    2. Metal Sonic (The Fact that even Sonic 4 didn´t flandarize him is astounding)
    3. Fang The Sniper (I love how he played a better Role in the 16-Bit Version despite not having played it yet)

  • @xlro8f853
    @xlro8f853 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember that time Knuckles mugged a demigod.

  • @kabalthecybop6145
    @kabalthecybop6145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally, absolutely adore The Ends concept. It was dumb at first until I realized, this thing killed a highly advanced civilization all on its own. And the idea of it looking different to everyone is awesome. Just wish the fight was better but I hope to see the concept of it, and the Starfall island in general, to be expanded upon

    • @kabalthecybop6145
      @kabalthecybop6145 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ChannelPup... You will die in the next 5 minutes

  • @sonicrespinned
    @sonicrespinned หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was not expecting that sonic boom villain to show up in here even if he is an honorable mention

  • @jaxp3950
    @jaxp3950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s be honest, if Eggman won he wouldn’t call himself Mr Dr Eggman, he’d call himself something like supreme lord Eggman

  • @TheTSMBoi
    @TheTSMBoi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree on Zavok and 6 being worst villains in a Modern Sonic revamp of Sonic X-treme. Zavok and others are so forgettable. Zavok is litteraly the only "Deadly" 6 I can remember.

  • @oresamakevinable
    @oresamakevinable ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you forgot Silver who is antagonist in Sonic 06?

  • @GubbzYT
    @GubbzYT ปีที่แล้ว

    When he was saying Emeral, all I could hear him saying was "Email" lol

  • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
    @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite Sonic Villains are Mephiles Black Doom Dark Gaia and King Arthur aka The Black Knight.

  • @BooBoo-pi4jl
    @BooBoo-pi4jl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My villain ranking
    Mephiles = 💪
    Infinite = 💪
    M. Sonic = 💪
    Rusty Rose = 💪
    Eggman = 💪
    E. Nega = 💪
    Dr. Deep = 💪
    Surge = 💪
    Neo MS = 🤷
    Sage = 💩
    The End = 💩
    E. Djin = 💩
    Merlina = 💩
    The Zeti = 💩
    Lyric = 💩

    • @BooBoo-pi4jl
      @BooBoo-pi4jl ปีที่แล้ว

      Forgot a few more
      Chaos 0 =💪
      Black Doom = 💩
      GUN Commander = 💩
      Whiskers & Johnny = 🤷

  • @pinkaxol8015
    @pinkaxol8015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People are going to hate me for saying this but, I like zavok. I can't deny how dumb he becomes later in lost world. Pretty sure he forgets that the lost hex is his home not sonics. I guess sonic colonised it.

  • @chilidogs2985
    @chilidogs2985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All of a sudden I guess emerls name is emel 😂

  • @ALegendaryBlueHedge
    @ALegendaryBlueHedge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well the storybook games have been confirmed canon ever since Sonic Generations

  • @fernandomendoza4219
    @fernandomendoza4219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about Dark Oak of the Metarex from Sonic X? Am I only one who thinks he should be included as one of the Top Best?

  • @arkhamftw6186
    @arkhamftw6186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:07-8:12
    Why did Naugus have to catch a stray like that. I think he’s a pretty cool villain.
    Also this has had magical concepts in it before so what’s wrong with having straight up witches and wizards in the Sonic franchise?

    • @arkhamftw6186
      @arkhamftw6186 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welp missed the update on this one.
      Can I still claim the giveaway?

  • @SonicChan654
    @SonicChan654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:43 so we’re just gonna ignore the Sonic SatAM cartoon?

  • @Kelvin-sf6xe
    @Kelvin-sf6xe 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So Shadow can beat mephiles in stop them at the end of the day I hope so.

  • @yujeoo3845
    @yujeoo3845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the song called at the beginning?🥺 i know it but i dont know the name or where it comes from

  • @luigi3276
    @luigi3276 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There ain’t no way you put neo metal as the second worst villain 💀

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're right, there ain't. I put him as fourth worst.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?

    • @Andrew12105
      @Andrew12105 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please go to youtube kids instead.

    • @bakedbeans5494
      @bakedbeans5494 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andrew12105 Please watch better content.

  • @cabecadeprego8772
    @cabecadeprego8772 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everybody knows its Coconuts from AOSTH

  • @theshenpartei
    @theshenpartei ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mephiles did what dr eggman couldn’t and that is to kill the blue blur

  • @toxicroak722
    @toxicroak722 ปีที่แล้ว

    In all of the Sonic series villains, five of Sonic villains are the worst because they are inredeemably evil

  • @Nedum05
    @Nedum05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The End may be a consolation prize for Mephelise fans for now. But with time, it may become the next Mephelise

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 ปีที่แล้ว

      The end is death mephiles was more like the devil

    • @Nedum05
      @Nedum05 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jasonblack2477 Well Mephiles IS derived from Mephistopheles which literally translates to demon so you have point. My point is they’re both basically concepts, the End represents complete death while Mephiles represents absolute darkness and evil so they’re the same yet quite different.

  • @spooderman320
    @spooderman320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the storybook games are mainline because they are canon. Sonic references secret rings in generations

  • @Michael_Afton40
    @Michael_Afton40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good thing Kishimoto wants Mephiles back

  • @dian267
    @dian267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neo metal Sonic turn into a monster because how far he willing to take to take Sonic down

  • @sdpr_5
    @sdpr_5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alotta random one off sonic boom tv show villians, sorta interesting to see

  • @AFeralTrout420
    @AFeralTrout420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My question is what do you think of Black Doom as a villain? Is he good, average, terrible? Me personally I think he's actually a pretty good villains that's quite underrated.
    And I now that many may disagree with me but I'd actually have to say that Black Doom is the most evil Sonic villain, not Mephiles.
    Mephiles is actually a little bit more tragic then most people realize because Sonic 06 kinda just skips over this. As we both know he used to be good once. As Solaris when he was whole he watched over the people of Solleana and guided them. But then humanity turned on him after all he'd done to protect them, just to acquire his power.
    When experimented on he was literally RIPPED IN HALF at birth becoming Mephiles and Iblis, so this guy was literally BORN out of pain. And then Shadow sealed him up inside the scepter for 10 years, so yeah no wonder this guy is all sadistic and evil. He was betrayed by humanity after protecting them, painfully ripped apart, and then crammed into a tiny void prison for 10 years. There was actually a pretty good reason why Mephiles came out to be the way he is.
    Black Doom on the other hand is not really given a reason why he is evil, he just is, (however this is one his flaws that hes not really given much backstory aside being involved with Shadows creation) and to the point where he's willing to KILL SHADOW, his own SON just for disobeying him. He also literally unleashes a paralysis gas sending everyone into a very slow and painful demise by letting his soldiers slowly consume everyone, not to mention keeping humans alive as livestock for his soldiers, which is pretty much a fate WORSE then death.

    • @fictiontheorizer4253
      @fictiontheorizer4253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The End is the most canonically evil. Both Mephiles and Black Doom are following their nature. Black Doom is confirmed in the manual and the final story to be planning to feed earth's population to the Black Arms.

  • @dostayer3369
    @dostayer3369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally think that Infinite would be a better villain to Shadow than Sonic.
    Shadow doesn't really have a beef with Eggman that much and is quite grey morally, Infinite on the other hand has a huge beef with Shadow (if you actually think of the dialog that happens during the second Shadow level you'll understand) and doesn't really have that much against Sonic (he fought him in order to bring his and Eggman's vision into being), also, they are both Edgy and it can be really interesting seeing it being toyed with.
    Also, while Mephilis was the overarching villain of 06, he was almost exclusively an enemy of Shadow, Sonic didn't even knew he has actually exist until he was stabbed by him, and Infinite being Mephilis Adjacent it actually makes sense to give him to Shadow as a villain and not Sonic.
    If they ever bring him back if course, he is trapped in the Phantom Ruby (the words are "consumed by the Phantom Ruby") so he might be discontinued...

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Infinite pretty much suffers from being introduced into a weird OC, Classic Sonic game, that has no money to even give Infinite the time to flesh out his “Eggman created me and my entire life as Zero was a lie!”

  • @iztcoyflores9602
    @iztcoyflores9602 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you said, "Did I just describe myself" you only took out old but not girly, so I'm onto you

  • @eggmannega6895
    @eggmannega6895 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could it be that Mr. Dr. Eggman's victory didn't feel right was because said victory lacked the fight with a certain hedgehog?

  • @meganshaw1949
    @meganshaw1949 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nomanatis kind of looks like he could be The Devil’s cousin from Cuphead and who’s daddy was The Devil from Fantasia.

  • @FabBrigade
    @FabBrigade ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Dr. Eggman sounds like that guy from Spy Kids 3.

  • @megaman37456
    @megaman37456 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Nominatus is just XANA with voice lines.
    EDIT: For me Mephiles is proof that demons exist in Sonic and the fact that concept hasn't been explored again disappoints me.

  • @Venom-Boiii
    @Venom-Boiii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If infinite had better writing, he would be a villain worthy of his amazing theme song

  • @Bladedfox14
    @Bladedfox14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do respectfully disagree with your opinion on Witchcart. Magic vs Technology is a trope and I think that could be a new and interesting challenge for Tails to face.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Y'know what, while Wendy Witchcart is still a big stinky, I absolutely see your point and would love to see Tails up against a magic-user. Just...a more layered concept than a witch in a cart...

  • @TaranisHedgehog
    @TaranisHedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually like the Deadly Six.

  • @portiachinyerere300
    @portiachinyerere300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was lyric in this vedio I know he is a mid villa but in a pis of diolog inl sonic it says humanity failed to save and technology is the only keeping him alive he is pretty interesting if Sega did paid attention

  • @thegeth4293
    @thegeth4293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rusty and nine really are carrying sonic prime so far

  • @ashtonwilliams1800
    @ashtonwilliams1800 ปีที่แล้ว

    “There’s obviously limitations to storytelling and characterisation in 16 bit style video games”
    Oh really says Freedom Planet

  • @luckyjoe8951
    @luckyjoe8951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wait, if you added two sonic boom villains, where would you put Lyric at?

  • @gregzotter6189
    @gregzotter6189 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sonic Prime's second (and upcoming third) part *NOT SEASON!* seems to be pushing the Chaos Council as the 'big villains' of the series, which is nice to see.

  • @jasonblack2477
    @jasonblack2477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The storybook games are canon lol black knight literaly continues unleasched there is a hint at the end of black knight

  • @maxinal56
    @maxinal56 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:13 wait but theres another question:
    Wtf is zavok is evem supposed to be
    I mean some characters are based in animals
    Sonic:we all know what he is
    Vector:a crocodile
    Charmy:a bee
    But zavok? He just looks like combined lizard with a bull and a human.
    (I know some characters are just made by the creators for no reason but i still dont know what he is supposed to be)

  • @cosmosofficial6585
    @cosmosofficial6585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh yes, Mephiles the gamer from tilted towers

  • @LmaoLevi
    @LmaoLevi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love sonic 2006 (only the stories of Shadow and Silver)

  • @FNBurgerMan3395
    @FNBurgerMan3395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    34:09 guys I think he said that AND there might be no way.

  • @Zreaunes-SpadesOfReality759
    @Zreaunes-SpadesOfReality759 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mephiles and infinite are my two favorite villains but it sure is disappointing how infinite had so much potential only to be wasted by bad writers. Mephiles was absolutely amazing in his game but just like forces the game had bad writing. I do have a theory: what if the phantom ruby is a fragment of the end? When you fight the end it shoots red cubes very similar to infinite’s phantom cubes and it also says “I am infinite” while that might not prove anything, it says infinite was consumed by the original phantom ruby which means he is either trapped inside or is possibly dead, which I hope is not the case because he could have so much potential. I highly doubt it could be mephiles because he was erased from the past, present, and future which either means he is somehow alive in some other dimension or reality, or is just stuck in some other timeline that was unaffected. Anyways that is my theory for them!

  • @evanlif
    @evanlif ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I disagree with you putting neo metal sonic in 4 worst this is metal peak I say and it the only game that game him a voice and of neo metal sonic was 2010 modern sonic where he just eggman servant that would be lame

  • @demonking3673
    @demonking3673 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized that Shadow would see The End as Mephiles instead of a purple moon

  • @FatalGod404
    @FatalGod404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to state my opinion you did neo dirty he was a perfect villain, but mephilis was done even worse that man should have been in 1st in my opinion people have even said he’s better than egg man for you know killing sonic in his first and only game appearance not only that he succeeded everything else was done by Solaris he killed sonic and got his revenge on shadow and fused with iblis Solaris just had to win the fight mephilis is dark sadistic and the perfect villain you always get a sense of fear when he’s on screen unlike eggman in the games or god forbid infinite or Zavok also shadow maybe a villain than but he was more like a rival at that time. Gerald Robotnick was the real villain of that story the bio lizard was more of a guard dog

  • @raikojanes5972
    @raikojanes5972 ปีที่แล้ว

    man, if Zavok became a Hero and Sonic's Friend, he could've been a great villain

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh, a pretty fair list, to be honest, i wonder what kind of list you’ll do next.

  • @MaorKoren6405
    @MaorKoren6405 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:50 there is: Sonic Advance 3. Gemeral is a revised version of Emrel

  • @GlitchNoobChaotix
    @GlitchNoobChaotix 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im still enraged on how much potential was wasted on infinite he could've been such a cool and deep character but no emo mr. Im not weak it is >:/

  • @cofagrigusfan24
    @cofagrigusfan24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i strongly disagree on Zavok's placement
    first, the Zeti are the demons or oni of the Sonic world (that already makes them a lot more intresting)
    second, they kinda do use their telepathy, mainly with Zazz's moon mech, Zor's owl mech, Zik's fruit & Zavok's dragon mech
    third, Zavok is the perfect foe for both Sonic & Eggman, the Sonic trio is always about Speed, Strength & Flight/Intelligence, but that trio is used as teamwork, what about the opposite? Sonic is speed, Eggman is flight/intelligence & Zavok is strength
    fourth, sure he has no goal, but that is just in the zeti nature, they are evil because they are demons/oni
    fifth, he is extreme in strength, durability, intelligence, and more (he is able to block Sonic's homing attack, the same attack that took out Chaos many years ago (and we know Sonic gets stronger over the years, thanks to Perfect Chaos in Generations))
    also he respects Zik, showing more personality then you think

    • @bakedbeans5494
      @bakedbeans5494 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trash villains.

    • @fictiontheorizer4253
      @fictiontheorizer4253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like the Deadly Six as a whole. Zavok, I ironically like the lease because he doesn't have any one specific character trait to build on.
      Is he a muscle bound heavy or is he the brains of the operation? The writers can't seem to decide and Zik being there just complicates things unnecessarily.

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @fictiontheorizeer4253 Zavok comes off to me as an abuse victim that’s stuck in the destructive programming of his master. Loyalty and order would be his main trait.

  • @ezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-w2k
    @ezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-w2k ปีที่แล้ว

    bro, I'm also biased, but for infinite since Sonic forces was my first sonic game.

  • @BlackShadow01-05
    @BlackShadow01-05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally love Neo Metal and Infinite Neo Metal is kinda just Metal pushed to the edge and Infinite is amazing but the writers ruined it

  • @King_QM23
    @King_QM23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This man really said sonic and knuckles can’t be straight and idk why I agree so much I mean look what they do

  • @wesshiflet2214
    @wesshiflet2214 ปีที่แล้ว

    EERIE matt berry impression

  • @mr.mimikyu2342
    @mr.mimikyu2342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping to see Jet The Hawk

  • @lukegamerzw
    @lukegamerzw ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn’t like words spiritual successor related to more like indie games(computer games/video games)? I would prefer seeing Ixis Naugus rather than Mephiles the Dark.

  • @Kookie_13_
    @Kookie_13_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo this noise tho 2:30

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:30 the best villain tho

  • @AdamSelvig
    @AdamSelvig ปีที่แล้ว

    The story book games are mainline generations referenced magic books so the story book games are canon

  • @christopherford39
    @christopherford39 ปีที่แล้ว

    In case for the end it was confirmed that the boss fight is getting changed

  • @TheRoomforImprovement
    @TheRoomforImprovement ปีที่แล้ว

    Mephilies: AKA Memphis Tennessee.

  • @bigtimetruedeath8928
    @bigtimetruedeath8928 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    here my worst viillains list 1 biolizard 2 the END 3 iblis 4 eggman nega 5 egg salamander

    • @bakedbeans5494
      @bakedbeans5494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Egg Salamander is just a machine.

  • @nessshrug5222
    @nessshrug5222 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not nor will not care how bad zavok Is I will always love him and not for nostalgia reasons since I never played lost world I just love his design

  • @Raymandaboi
    @Raymandaboi ปีที่แล้ว

    22:46 no, purple being scary is not racsist. William Afton knows he is scary. He's purple. Plus the end is just a big moon its not got a skin colour as it doesn't have skin

  • @TheKiwiDragon
    @TheKiwiDragon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it pronounced 'EE-merl'? I grew up always thinking it was pronounced 'EM-earl'.

  • @_adorabubble
    @_adorabubble ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dark Gaia?

  • @BrendanJSmith
    @BrendanJSmith 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LS Mark is your Shadow the Hedgehog.

  • @greenhillsmaster5582
    @greenhillsmaster5582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hype video I hope metal sonic and Mr mephlias are on top

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      They're certainly close.