To me “weird Nintendo” died with the failure of the Wii U. They saw that being the wacky kids console gimmick couldn’t keep putting up numbers and you see that switch in philosophy with the switch era
"Weird Nintendo" died with the Wii. The motion control gimmick isn't "weird" but rather a bad gameplay decision many people disliked but still sold more than it really should have. People are suckers, and much like the Final Fantasy 7 community, they will buy anything that has a specific logo slapped onto it even if it's clearly a bad idea. Makes me wonder how many of them have buyers remorse when the things they bought stop getting supported.
@@giganticmoonReally did? you forget Arms and Ring fit, those games were weird, add in any other game they have published with a weird premise in the switch era.
This was the era where I stopped being a "fanboy" and learned to be critical of the businesses I support. Of course I have fond memories of the Wii U era as it was my college years, with games like Smash, Rayman Legends, Splatoon, COD, etc but we all know the U wasn't a great era overall and sold badly. The Switch succeeded because the U failed. It was certainly an era that won't be forgotten. I was honestly of course critical of Nintendo's business practices but was deeply hurt by Iwata's passing and I wish he was still here with us. But he's playing his games in the sky. Rest easy, Iwata-san.
@mrm64 For the vast majority if things, the switch era is an improvement for sure. Nintendo business wise during this time was a disaster. But I too will always have fond memories of this wii u era! Also although I think the switch has on average better games, it says alot about the quality of wii u games that so many of them have been either ported to switch, or been built upon for switch games like splatoon 2 or ultimate. Wii U is quite underrated in that sense.
He was the one that said (when referring to the Wi-Fi Connection), that their Internet services should be free and never liked the idea of a “paid subscription to play Nintendo’s games”. Basically, he was against Nintendo Switch Online’s paid subscription feature. Some gamers feel tied down to having to pay over and over instead of keeping the games they purchased. Why didn’t they just make a Nintendo Switch Virtual Console where you still have ALL the games you want, but you pay ONCE. Nintendo would still get the money from the big purchases, and they’re not exactly STRUGGLING for cash at the moment, so…
I agree. What they’re doing with Mario lately is also pretty “weird”. I kinda don’t get how people pretend Nintendo got less weird or experimental at some point.
@BareBandSubscription They still are. I still think Nintendo games themselves are super innovative and weird at times. I just think it was a different kind of weird back then lol.
It's easy to wish for the past because we forget about the strain we had to deal with. This video really opened my eyes in seeing that Masahiro Sakurai (greatest artist of the modern age) really kept that tradition alive even after Iwata and Reggie were gone. His style of presentation is one I try to mirror in my own videos.
@jedisquidward Sakurai is a great personality to model your own videos on! He really captures that charm and fun whilst also making his presentations engaging and valuable to watch. When I see people say that Nintendo can't have that same heart and fun that they once had because now the switch is popular and is aimed at a wider audience, I look to Sakurai who is very much still reminiscent of the old way whilst promoting the most successful fighting game of all time. So if he can do it, I don't see why the rest of Nintendo can't in this modern era of success. (Granted, Sakurai is really one of a kind.)
Hot take: Metroid Prime Federation Force is a great game. It's just that it was being released under these three circumstances: 1. The last Metroid game was Other M 2. The franchise had a 6 years hiatus 3. Nintendo had just DMCA'd AM2R by DrM64 If Nintendo released Samus Returns in 2016 and Federation Force in 2017 it would've been received so much better Heck, if Nintendo even announced Samus Returns alongside Federation Force people wouldn't be complaining about this game
@ddnava96 That's a good point. The timing likely mean alot since it was during the time where fans were starving for not only metroid content but just big nintendo games in general, so to release it then backfired .
4. They tried putting a FPS on 3DS with bad controls. 5. They ignored people who wanted a new Metroid on Wii U/ Didn't put this on Wii U instead. Federation Force wouldn't have been received better if it was after Samus Returns unless it came out on Wii U, but even then people were more upset they didn't support the Wii U much at all.
@@Fayt540 It had as good controls as they could add on a 3DS. That said, it is compatible with the Circle Pad Pro and the N3DS nub for better controls. Tbh I only played it on N3DS so I can't speak for controls on the O3DS without the CPP. As for the WiiU support, I honestly don't blame them, as it's a mainly multiplayer game consisting of short missions. They had to choose between the highly successful 3DS with its multiplayer focus or arguably the second biggest failure among Nintendo consoles
i do miss the charm nintendo had like a decade ago we will likely never see nintendo be the way they used to be and thats a shame since we used to get so many funny bits from each direct back then
Sakurai's style of presentations didn't really "die" with Sora's reveal by the way. He has a channel called something like "Masahiro Sakurai On Games" where he records himself talking about miscellaneous behind-the-scenes parts of all the games he's worked on, complete with animated AND live action skits. I frequently watch some of his videos because he's also outright a good, high-quality youtuber, and all the charm from the weird Nintendo era is intact.
@@StarLeo_ they want users to be able to load into games quickly - and they can. Unlike on the wii u which had very slow loading to get going. I get a console to play games, not to have a charming UI. And the Switch has delivered without having the droughts of the wii u.
@@jeffrey5976 But that cant be what it is because the 3DS had a stylized home screen as well and loaded games about as quick as the Switch. Thats just a bullshit excuse that most people site to justify the Switch UI's lack of character. The thing is that it dose not even have to look like the 3DS or Wii U menu to be charming, it just needs to have its own charming personality, which it lacks.
The only Nintendo systems I had experienced prior to 2011 were the SNES, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, GameCube, DS Lite, and the original Wii. My dad bought me the original N3DS around the end of 2011 when the system got a price cut. I was a fan of Nintendo, just from that system alone and while I never got a Wii U when it was still the company's focus (even though, I really wanted one to show support), I was always rooting for its success because it was the only home console from the 8th Gen that actually excited me. Looking back on that era, yeah it's very easy to say that this was the company's dark days, but honestly the community and the bigwigs at Nintendo made the best of things, during that time and for me, that's why I still hold that generation in high regard. Heck, I literally made a playlist on my channel that contain my favorite fan videos on TH-cam that were made from 2011 to early 2017 and years later, I still have no problem going back on that playlist from time-to-time. While it wasn't Nintendo's best generation, it was a definitely special one though. While I still like the Switch, I'm not a fan of the company anymore and I'm not going to list my reasons why because this comment is already long enough, but still.
@@paperluigi6132 of course, there’s nothing wrong with more reserved and professional people, but it is also important to have someone that can connect to a wider audience when possible
there is that one photoshop edit of his face to make him look like bowser (the character), but even then it’s poking fun at his name and not his personality.
@@paperluigi6132 It's not about being extroverted. It's about Reggie making more attempts to reach out to the community than anyone at Nintendo.. aside from maybe Iwata. And they're now both gone.
Nintendo recently pulled off a genius marketing stunt with Emio being part of the Famicom Detective Club series and it really paid off, I guarantee that if that 3rd FDC game we’re shown in a direct everyone would pass it up and not consider picking it up, it’s going to be $50 and have physical versions, unlike the FDC Remakes from 2021.
Wow. Großartiger und nostalgischer Rückblick auf eine absolut fantastische Nintendo Zeit! Ich bin und war immer wieder ergriffen wenn ich etwas zu Iwata sama sehe! Diese Zeit war mit der WiiU zwar nicht zu erfolgreich aber du hast so viele Sachen aufgezeigt, warum es trotzdem ein so tolles Unternehmen war. Ein paar mehr Musikeinspielungen wären noch gut gewesen denn wie du es am Ende erwähnst hatte die Wii DS WiiU 3DS Ära einen Haufen Musik.mit der man die Zeit verbindet. Egal ob Menü, Shop, Miichannel ... Und noch eine andere. Danke für das Video🤘🏻🙌 Thanks
Yeah. I'm really gonna miss the more under rated luxuries of Nintendo. DSiWare on 3DS, Cheap GBA staples on Wii U, crashing into things rainbows, good times.
Looks like 2010's kids nostalgia is starting to hit. I wish people thought it was special, but only kids woth rose tinted goggles remember it like that. People thought there was something wrong with you if you liked Nintendo in the 2010s. It was extremely taboo back them. The Wii U had good games but you'd never know that if you listened to journalists or youtubers.
I prefer modern Nintendo. Better games, on point marketing and relationships, everything is so efficient. On WiiU era it seemed like they didn’t take the brand seriously and just clowned around for 6 years.
Its funny that you compared the e3 2014 with the June 2024 direct to say how the presenters doesn't show emotion anymore, but you dont mention that the June 2024 had a moment like that, with Yuji Horii presenting Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D, he was shown to be so happy to be there talking about his game.
I truly believe Nintendo was at their most weird and creative during the Gamecube/Early Wii era. They made so many weird and fun games for the Gamecube that were replaced by gimmicky and lower quality games and ports. Luckily the Switch has recaptured that creativity.
Why did you make a video that can make a grown man cry? I miss WIIU-3DS era SOOOO MUCH, no joke: everytime I replay or find and play another game from that era I go back temporarily.. and when I have to stop, it feels like and a abrupt slap to the face when seeing the time we're in now... No idfense to switch lovers..I played and I HATE it. The love is gone, and even if new developers are putting it in their games, it's being filtered out by current nintendo...
I still miss Iwata, since he died I feel Nintendo has become increasingly more corporate as it feels like the people running the company are neither gamers nor developers. Hence why people are so iffy on the idea of NSO and it’s expansion, not to mention charging $60 for remakes such as Skyward Sword, Luigi’s Mansion 2 and the soon to be upcoming Donkey Kong Country Returns HD. I don't think Iwata would be entirely happy with some of the things Nintendo is doing now.
The old guard started off running a struggling midsized toy company, but more and more of Nintendo is filled with people who have only ever been with it as a gaming and tech giant. I'm not sure the company will ever be quite the same, it'll only drift further from that root. But at least they solidified that spirit in their game design philosophy.
No, but Smash is gone. Sakurai just has Kirby, and tbh that's been hit and miss depending on what you're looking at. Revisiting Kirby Air Ride would be a good idea, but idk if I trust Nintendo these days to make games that don't cater to babies or end up buggy messes. And not even the fun buggy mess like Bethesda with Skyrim, where you can exploit and enjoy. Nintendo was quick to make sure exploits were fixed, but can't prioritize the ACTUAL problems with their games. Smh.
Nintendo is just not the same anymore... iwata was like my old grandfather.. which my 2 grandfathers passed away so now im really depressed i cant meet mr iwata or reggie or that funny guy bill..
The WiiU era was the perfect time to be a fan, the Switch era is the perfect time to be a player. Now if only we could have gotten both at the same time... Instead we have been in a growing "meh" since like 2013.
I genuinely feel like Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-aime carried Nintendo's remaining reputation. As soon as reggie left, it became more easy to dislike nintendo because reggie was the only guy who did listen and interact with fans.
I think that this video is very dismissive of what the current leaders at Nintendo can do and have done, sure it's different, but the fact that they have helped Nintendo reach heights probably Reggie and Iwata couldn't do is an accomplishment on it's own. Appreciate what the leaders at Nintendo have done for us, this is the best Nintendo generation we've had. Nintendo is actually listening to us, WII U had droughts and hardly no first-party games, no Animal Crossing, no Warioware, no Zelda game, no Metroid, no 3 Mario parties, honestly. Sure the WII U was a better console but the Switch has a better library and a much more versatile way to play your games. I'd prefer a bigger library and a hybrid console over a home console with hardly any games, hell Even Mario Tennis Aces is better than Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (pass) I feel like fans complained about Super Mario 3d World being too linear, but when Nintendo gives us an actual sandbox game, now all of a sudden, people actually like 3d world more, same for wonder, people complained about how the new super Mario bros series was stale and wanted something different but when we get something different, we complain. Nintendo Switch is one of the best Nintendo generations of all time and it's sad people aren't appreciating what Nintendo gave us. They will only miss it when the next console is released, just like the WII U was finally appreciated after the switch came out. This was a slap in the face to the modern Nintendo, you fans are so entitled and unappreciative. The fact that the Switch is still selling with hardly any apps is impressive in itself. A video game console isn't known for its apps but for its games and it shows. Nobody was watching TV or on the internet when the SNES or the N64 came out and the GameCube, yet they say they are some of Nintendo's best, why can't Switch get the same recognition. Nintendo is still Nintendo to me, it's only going to change once Miyamoto is dead, then that's when you all need to start to worry. He is the real face of Nintendo, not Iwata or Reggie. Miyamoto started the Nintendo craze and it will die with him.
@thewiseone629 The Nintendo switch with its library of games is the best thing Nintendo has ever done. Maybe even the best machine in gaming with how many masterpieces are on it. I made sure in this video to say that the new leaders are still very much respected and competent, as evident by the success of the switch. The video only compares the aspect of how personable they are and how engaging they are with the audience, which is undeniably at a much lesser level nowadays. This was not meant to be a knock on the quality of modern Nintendo, just an opportunity to reminesce some quality experiences and approaches that are no longer part of this newer more successful Nintendo. Thank you for watching!
I miss the weird Nintendo, modern Nintendo is very bland, generic and soulless :( you can really see this in the Directs, they used to be Nintendo showing off some passion projects with enthusiastic developers showing insight whereas now they are ''GET EXCITED FOR PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT''... like there is no way stuff like that Funko garbage would have made it into a Wii U or 3DS Direct
What changed Nintendo was their business ideologies. Nintendo used to innovate creative ideas that changed the way people game, they didn’t just live off their own hype but they also used to come up with new ways to generate it. Modern Nintendo live off the hype created by old Nintendo.
Yup. Closest thing they had to hype in modern times were Smash announcements for highly requested characters, and I'm fairly certain it was mainly due to Etika's positive energy.. when he was around. RIP.
@@Fayt540 Man, in 20 years, people are gonna be glazing the Switch. They just revived all three Mario RPG franchises in the same year and you’re acting like they haven’t been doing jack.
@@BareBandSubscription Revived? You mean the Super Mario RPG remake by Microsoft Office, the Paper Mario game that runs better on the Gamecube than the Switch, and now Brothership which may or may not be good since it's not out and we don't know what it's going to entail? Did they also "revive" F-Zero when they brought F-Zero 99? I know what I'm saying sounds dark, but it's the reality we're living in. Compare the SNES version of Super Mario RPG and tell me the Switch version doesn't look lifeless by comparison.
@@Fayt540 I’m sorry, are two dream remakes that nobody thought would ever happen as well as a new M&L entry after like ten years not good enough for you? My bad, dawg. Didn’t realize you were so hard to please. Also, as a diehard fan of Mario RPG for SNES since childhood, I thought the Switch game looked basically perfect, played great, and had great new content I still go back to. It nailed the look of like 99% of the original renders from all the promotional material I’d see growing up. It’s also just a better game than the original (which does not hold up visually at all unless it’s being played on a CRT, btw). As a fan of that game, you’re wrong. Empty cynicism isn’t high taste.
@@BareBandSubscription Not when they look so uninspired or run like shit compared to the original console they were initially developed on... from a billion dollar company. It's not about being hard to please. It's about how I want to spend my 60-70$ and what I expect to see if Nintendo wants my money. I'm sorry that you cannot accept these things. It must be hard for you.
Idk about Wii U, but my favorite experiences were on the Gamecube. If I were to compare: Sunshine vs Odyssey - They're Mario games, but I didn't really get into them and played them equally as little. WW and TP vs BotW and TotK - These Zelda games feel even to me. I enjoy them all, though TotK does feel like BotW but just more, while TP is completely different from WW. Kirby Air Ride vs Forgotten Kingdom - Kirby Air Ride without a doubt. This experience hasn't come back since, and the closest thing we got to it was Smash Run on Smash for 3DS. Colosseum and XD vs Sw/Sh and S/V - Hahaha... yeah Colosseum hands down. Pokemon games on Switch are buggy and not worth full price. F-Zero GX vs F-Zero 99 - ...Really? F-Zero GX. Baffles me that they really can't seem to bring more to do with F-Zero other than a battle royale. Not going to give Switch praise for sharing the Steam library but at much poorer capability. Sales numbers also do not depict whether a game or console is good or successful since scalpers exist and we can have better experiences elsewhere.
The Gamecube was honestly balls compared to the Switch. I was a Gamecube kid and even I thought it was generally underwhelming. The prevalent amount of backtracking and padding in a lot of the first party stuff was evident, and the third party support was lousy compared to PS2 and Xbox. I think people have really overhyped the GameCube lately. It was arguably the least inspired piece of hardware Nintendo ever put out and the library wasn’t even really as experimental as people make it out to be now (“make new franchise entry but add water” isn’t terribly creative, nor is “turn original IP into Star Fox”). The Switch has actively done things I never thought would happen, from dream pick Smash characters, to the Mario RPG revival, to out-of-left-field stuff like Deadly Premonition 2 (not a great game, but one that was surely NEVER going to get greenlit otherwise) and new localizations of stuff like Radical Dreamers, AAI2, etc, like I really don’t get how anyone’s down on the Switch. The thing has delivered.
@@BareBandSubscription I think the gamecube by itself wasn't much of a thing design-wise due to not having the ability to play DVDs like the others, but the controller design and the games were seen in a much better light once people gave it a chance. I could see Switch getting praise for being a system that was just underwhelming for what it did, that it could have had better hardware, but the ability to "switch" between portable and home display setups was always a good idea. Sadly, I think people will remember the Switch for the buggy, unplayable versions of games that were put on the console. That it had a few good titles that were interesting, like Smash Ultimate, Odyssey, and BotW, and the ability to run Witcher 3 despite looking much worse, but that it really started to fall off after that due to poor business decisions, lack of VC support, poor online play that you had to pay for, and many more negatives. Much worse than the Gamecube looking like a lunchbox.
@@Fayt540 That’s a pretty odd thing to believe when the Switch has had a much more commercially and critically successful lifecycle than the GameCube had. Like, I don’t get how you think the Switch is gonna suddenly get less popular overtime and not enjoy a nostalgic renaissance like the GameCube and Wii currently are, but okay. Plus my point about the first-party output being riddled with padding still stands, as do my points about the crummy third-party support and superficial experimentation.
@@BareBandSubscription Yeah idk why people want remakes of Gamecube games, why Melee lasted so much longer than others, and why people want Gamecube controller support. I ignored your padding comment because you really don't see the padding in Switch titles. I would point out Switch games being buggier than Gamecube, and while Gamecube had its own faulty games, it was still early in the 3D span alongside N64. Nintendo has had Wii, Wii U, and now Switch to stop screwing around... yet here we are. Third party support on a Nintendo console just means "Hey, we got those games you can get on Steam, except they run worse on our consoles." And superficial experimentation isn't just a Gamecube exclusive. Ninty sells overpriced SD cards and other products (that should be labeled "Early Access", btw) for waaay more than they deserve just because it has their logo on it. If you're falling for that, I wouldn't be surprised if you prefer iOS over Android.
Tbf I think the current Nintendo Direct approach being so rapid fire feels like that it's a byproduct of them inserting all of these 3rd party titles including the dime a dozen JRPGs they seemingly waste too much time on. At the very least from a game development standpoint, remakes for Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario TTYD is a level of fan service that none of us expected would ever happen.
To me “weird Nintendo” died with the failure of the Wii U. They saw that being the wacky kids console gimmick couldn’t keep putting up numbers and you see that switch in philosophy with the switch era
EXACTLY
"Weird Nintendo" died with the Wii. The motion control gimmick isn't "weird" but rather a bad gameplay decision many people disliked but still sold more than it really should have.
People are suckers, and much like the Final Fantasy 7 community, they will buy anything that has a specific logo slapped onto it even if it's clearly a bad idea. Makes me wonder how many of them have buyers remorse when the things they bought stop getting supported.
died with the switch’s release
awesome games, not necessarily weird
@@giganticmoonReally did? you forget Arms and Ring fit, those games were weird, add in any other game they have published with a weird premise in the switch era.
@@shulkash8799 i don’t mean the games, we know they’re wacky. i mean the company’s public image
The happy and quirky Nintendo that people are fond of died with Satoru Iwata.
I've been saying this for a long time. Also with Reggie gone as well.
Our bodies just can't be ready anymore for Nintendo..
I was gonna comment something similar because I agree hard. There was a big shift and unfortunately for the worse...
Rest in peace S.Iwata.
I miss him.
This was the era where I stopped being a "fanboy" and learned to be critical of the businesses I support. Of course I have fond memories of the Wii U era as it was my college years, with games like Smash, Rayman Legends, Splatoon, COD, etc but we all know the U wasn't a great era overall and sold badly. The Switch succeeded because the U failed. It was certainly an era that won't be forgotten. I was honestly of course critical of Nintendo's business practices but was deeply hurt by Iwata's passing and I wish he was still here with us. But he's playing his games in the sky. Rest easy, Iwata-san.
@mrm64 For the vast majority if things, the switch era is an improvement for sure. Nintendo business wise during this time was a disaster. But I too will always have fond memories of this wii u era!
Also although I think the switch has on average better games, it says alot about the quality of wii u games that so many of them have been either ported to switch, or been built upon for switch games like splatoon 2 or ultimate. Wii U is quite underrated in that sense.
Honestly, I feel like the political scene as well changed people's attitudes as well.
RIP Satoru Iwata. The old Nintendo wouldn’t be able to exist without him.
@@Someone69769 Absolutley ❤️
Neither would modern Nintendo
He was the one that said (when referring to the Wi-Fi Connection), that their Internet services should be free and never liked the idea of a “paid subscription to play Nintendo’s games”.
Basically, he was against Nintendo Switch Online’s paid subscription feature. Some gamers feel tied down to having to pay over and over instead of keeping the games they purchased. Why didn’t they just make a Nintendo Switch Virtual Console where you still have ALL the games you want, but you pay ONCE. Nintendo would still get the money from the big purchases, and they’re not exactly STRUGGLING for cash at the moment, so…
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I don't think weird Nintendo ever left. Especially with that Emio thing the other day
Yeah lol what the heck even is Emio
Emio is the third Mario brother
Emio looks like the guy they send to deliver DMCAs. So weird and quirky. /s
I agree. What they’re doing with Mario lately is also pretty “weird”. I kinda don’t get how people pretend Nintendo got less weird or experimental at some point.
@BareBandSubscription They still are. I still think Nintendo games themselves are super innovative and weird at times. I just think it was a different kind of weird back then lol.
It's easy to wish for the past because we forget about the strain we had to deal with. This video really opened my eyes in seeing that Masahiro Sakurai (greatest artist of the modern age) really kept that tradition alive even after Iwata and Reggie were gone. His style of presentation is one I try to mirror in my own videos.
@jedisquidward Sakurai is a great personality to model your own videos on! He really captures that charm and fun whilst also making his presentations engaging and valuable to watch.
When I see people say that Nintendo can't have that same heart and fun that they once had because now the switch is popular and is aimed at a wider audience, I look to Sakurai who is very much still reminiscent of the old way whilst promoting the most successful fighting game of all time. So if he can do it, I don't see why the rest of Nintendo can't in this modern era of success. (Granted, Sakurai is really one of a kind.)
I don't really watch Nintendo content , and I've never seen your channel before, but I'm really glad this popped up for me today. Nice video !
Thank you so much for watching ❤
Hot take: Metroid Prime Federation Force is a great game. It's just that it was being released under these three circumstances:
1. The last Metroid game was Other M
2. The franchise had a 6 years hiatus
3. Nintendo had just DMCA'd AM2R by DrM64
If Nintendo released Samus Returns in 2016 and Federation Force in 2017 it would've been received so much better
Heck, if Nintendo even announced Samus Returns alongside Federation Force people wouldn't be complaining about this game
@ddnava96 That's a good point. The timing likely mean alot since it was during the time where fans were starving for not only metroid content but just big nintendo games in general, so to release it then backfired .
4. They tried putting a FPS on 3DS with bad controls.
5. They ignored people who wanted a new Metroid on Wii U/ Didn't put this on Wii U instead.
Federation Force wouldn't have been received better if it was after Samus Returns unless it came out on Wii U, but even then people were more upset they didn't support the Wii U much at all.
@@Fayt540 It had as good controls as they could add on a 3DS. That said, it is compatible with the Circle Pad Pro and the N3DS nub for better controls. Tbh I only played it on N3DS so I can't speak for controls on the O3DS without the CPP.
As for the WiiU support, I honestly don't blame them, as it's a mainly multiplayer game consisting of short missions. They had to choose between the highly successful 3DS with its multiplayer focus or arguably the second biggest failure among Nintendo consoles
Very well made video, and making me cry about an executive i never knew *again* is impressive. I cant believe it's been 9 years already. Time's weird.
@steefffff That man touched the hearts of so many of us, his presence will always be missed. Thank you for watching!
A contributing factor to the Nintendo of the Wii U and 3DS era was that Iwata was a game programmer/developer before being the head of Nintendo.
Anytime a video starts talking about Iwata I start tearing up lol. Great vid man
@@SnakeMealProductions Thanks for watching!
i do miss the charm nintendo had like a decade ago we will likely never see nintendo be the way they used to be and thats a shame since we used to get so many funny bits from each direct back then
I've been watching so many videos just like this lately, I really enjoyed this one!
I do love a good nostalgic video essay 😂, Thanks!
@@StarLeo_ You're welcome!
You could really fit in with the rest of the more popular video essay TH-camrs in my opinion
Very happy to have found you in my recommended videos, keep it up man 🖤
@@Attard73 Thanks for giving it a go!
Sakurai's style of presentations didn't really "die" with Sora's reveal by the way. He has a channel called something like "Masahiro Sakurai On Games" where he records himself talking about miscellaneous behind-the-scenes parts of all the games he's worked on, complete with animated AND live action skits.
I frequently watch some of his videos because he's also outright a good, high-quality youtuber, and all the charm from the weird Nintendo era is intact.
how fitting i stumble upon this video the same week I had the feeling to play my 3ds
This is when Doug Bowser’s public appearances peaked. And even then, it really was Bowser Koopa who was that MVP.
I miss this Nintendo as well. I hope the Switch 2 has a more interesting UI.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 100%, I have no idea why the Switch's UI has absolutely 0 character to it.
@@StarLeo_because the UI on switch is garbage
@@StarLeo_ they want users to be able to load into games quickly - and they can. Unlike on the wii u which had very slow loading to get going. I get a console to play games, not to have a charming UI. And the Switch has delivered without having the droughts of the wii u.
@jeffrey5976 it can have character and be fast, direct and to the point at the same time.
@@jeffrey5976 But that cant be what it is because the 3DS had a stylized home screen as well and loaded games about as quick as the Switch. Thats just a bullshit excuse that most people site to justify the Switch UI's lack of character. The thing is that it dose not even have to look like the 3DS or Wii U menu to be charming, it just needs to have its own charming personality, which it lacks.
It will all be missed, the family of Nintendo.
Nintendo was so neat and had so much personality. Mr. Iwata and Mr. Fils Amei felt like friends
The only Nintendo systems I had experienced prior to 2011 were the SNES, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, GameCube, DS Lite, and the original Wii. My dad bought me the original N3DS around the end of 2011 when the system got a price cut.
I was a fan of Nintendo, just from that system alone and while I never got a Wii U when it was still the company's focus (even though, I really wanted one to show support), I was always rooting for its success because it was the only home console from the 8th Gen that actually excited me.
Looking back on that era, yeah it's very easy to say that this was the company's dark days, but honestly the community and the bigwigs at Nintendo made the best of things, during that time and for me, that's why I still hold that generation in high regard.
Heck, I literally made a playlist on my channel that contain my favorite fan videos on TH-cam that were made from 2011 to early 2017 and years later, I still have no problem going back on that playlist from time-to-time.
While it wasn't Nintendo's best generation, it was a definitely special one though.
While I still like the Switch, I'm not a fan of the company anymore and I'm not going to list my reasons why because this comment is already long enough, but still.
You still see memes of Reggie today, I’ve yet to see a single one on Doug bowser. Says enough
Hey man, not everyone is as outgoing and extroverted as Reggie is. Even Reggie’s predecessor, Kimishima, was more reserved.
@@paperluigi6132 of course, there’s nothing wrong with more reserved and professional people, but it is also important to have someone that can connect to a wider audience when possible
there is that one photoshop edit of his face to make him look like bowser (the character), but even then it’s poking fun at his name and not his personality.
@@paperluigi6132 It's not about being extroverted. It's about Reggie making more attempts to reach out to the community than anyone at Nintendo.. aside from maybe Iwata.
And they're now both gone.
Nintendo recently pulled off a genius marketing stunt with Emio being part of the Famicom Detective Club series and it really paid off, I guarantee that if that 3rd FDC game we’re shown in a direct everyone would pass it up and not consider picking it up, it’s going to be $50 and have physical versions, unlike the FDC Remakes from 2021.
Wow. Großartiger und nostalgischer Rückblick auf eine absolut fantastische Nintendo Zeit!
Ich bin und war immer wieder ergriffen wenn ich etwas zu Iwata sama sehe! Diese Zeit war mit der WiiU zwar nicht zu erfolgreich aber du hast so viele Sachen aufgezeigt, warum es trotzdem ein so tolles Unternehmen war. Ein paar mehr Musikeinspielungen wären noch gut gewesen denn wie du es am Ende erwähnst hatte die Wii DS WiiU 3DS Ära einen Haufen Musik.mit der man die Zeit verbindet. Egal ob Menü, Shop, Miichannel ... Und noch eine andere.
Danke für das Video🤘🏻🙌
Thanks
As a wrestling fan, your insertion of JR had me loling
Yeah. I'm really gonna miss the more under rated luxuries of Nintendo.
DSiWare on 3DS, Cheap GBA staples on Wii U, crashing into things rainbows, good times.
Such a great video. The emotional beats were so powerful
@@lovemancrashburn6514 Thanks for watching! 😊
Looks like 2010's kids nostalgia is starting to hit. I wish people thought it was special, but only kids woth rose tinted goggles remember it like that.
People thought there was something wrong with you if you liked Nintendo in the 2010s. It was extremely taboo back them. The Wii U had good games but you'd never know that if you listened to journalists or youtubers.
I hope if Sakurai comes back for the next Smash game that he will keep making those amazing Directs of his :D
I prefer modern Nintendo. Better games, on point marketing and relationships, everything is so efficient. On WiiU era it seemed like they didn’t take the brand seriously and just clowned around for 6 years.
@@user-pj1nk9eq3s I prefer modern Nintendo games, but I see no reason why they can't have a bit of fun at the same time.
Its funny that you compared the e3 2014 with the June 2024 direct to say how the presenters doesn't show emotion anymore, but you dont mention that the June 2024 had a moment like that, with Yuji Horii presenting Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D, he was shown to be so happy to be there talking about his game.
@ivanzoneBR24 Yes, I will agree. That was a good example. It does feel like somewhat of an outlier, though, and was also from an external developer.
I truly believe Nintendo was at their most weird and creative during the Gamecube/Early Wii era. They made so many weird and fun games for the Gamecube that were replaced by gimmicky and lower quality games and ports. Luckily the Switch has recaptured that creativity.
@@andyblargextra For the actual games themselves, I tend to agree.
Why did you make a video that can make a grown man cry?
I miss WIIU-3DS era SOOOO MUCH, no joke: everytime I replay or find and play another game from that era I go back temporarily.. and when I have to stop, it feels like and a abrupt slap to the face when seeing the time we're in now...
No idfense to switch lovers..I played and I HATE it. The love is gone, and even if new developers are putting it in their games, it's being filtered out by current nintendo...
I still miss Iwata, since he died I feel Nintendo has become increasingly more corporate as it feels like the people running the company are neither gamers nor developers. Hence why people are so iffy on the idea of NSO and it’s expansion, not to mention charging $60 for remakes such as Skyward Sword, Luigi’s Mansion 2 and the soon to be upcoming Donkey Kong Country Returns HD.
I don't think Iwata would be entirely happy with some of the things Nintendo is doing now.
The old guard started off running a struggling midsized toy company, but more and more of Nintendo is filled with people who have only ever been with it as a gaming and tech giant. I'm not sure the company will ever be quite the same, it'll only drift further from that root. But at least they solidified that spirit in their game design philosophy.
sakurai makes videos on his own channel, he isn't gone
That's true! Got some pretty cool insight on his videos, too.
He already quit that channel
@@Someone69769 he just made a video today wth are you on about
He's preparing his last videos
No, but Smash is gone. Sakurai just has Kirby, and tbh that's been hit and miss depending on what you're looking at.
Revisiting Kirby Air Ride would be a good idea, but idk if I trust Nintendo these days to make games that don't cater to babies or end up buggy messes. And not even the fun buggy mess like Bethesda with Skyrim, where you can exploit and enjoy. Nintendo was quick to make sure exploits were fixed, but can't prioritize the ACTUAL problems with their games. Smh.
Nintendo is just not the same anymore... iwata was like my old grandfather.. which my 2 grandfathers passed away so now im really depressed i cant meet mr iwata or reggie or that funny guy bill..
I expected at least a few thousand views. The video itself is really good
Thank you so much for giving it a go!
The WiiU era was the perfect time to be a fan, the Switch era is the perfect time to be a player. Now if only we could have gotten both at the same time...
Instead we have been in a growing "meh" since like 2013.
I genuinely feel like Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-aime carried Nintendo's remaining reputation. As soon as reggie left, it became more easy to dislike nintendo because reggie was the only guy who did listen and interact with fans.
I think that this video is very dismissive of what the current leaders at Nintendo can do and have done, sure it's different, but the fact that they have helped Nintendo reach heights probably Reggie and Iwata couldn't do is an accomplishment on it's own. Appreciate what the leaders at Nintendo have done for us, this is the best Nintendo generation we've had. Nintendo is actually listening to us, WII U had droughts and hardly no first-party games, no Animal Crossing, no Warioware, no Zelda game, no Metroid, no 3 Mario parties, honestly. Sure the WII U was a better console but the Switch has a better library and a much more versatile way to play your games. I'd prefer a bigger library and a hybrid console over a home console with hardly any games, hell Even Mario Tennis Aces is better than Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (pass) I feel like fans complained about Super Mario 3d World being too linear, but when Nintendo gives us an actual sandbox game, now all of a sudden, people actually like 3d world more, same for wonder, people complained about how the new super Mario bros series was stale and wanted something different but when we get something different, we complain. Nintendo Switch is one of the best Nintendo generations of all time and it's sad people aren't appreciating what Nintendo gave us. They will only miss it when the next console is released, just like the WII U was finally appreciated after the switch came out. This was a slap in the face to the modern Nintendo, you fans are so entitled and unappreciative. The fact that the Switch is still selling with hardly any apps is impressive in itself. A video game console isn't known for its apps but for its games and it shows. Nobody was watching TV or on the internet when the SNES or the N64 came out and the GameCube, yet they say they are some of Nintendo's best, why can't Switch get the same recognition. Nintendo is still Nintendo to me, it's only going to change once Miyamoto is dead, then that's when you all need to start to worry. He is the real face of Nintendo, not Iwata or Reggie. Miyamoto started the Nintendo craze and it will die with him.
@thewiseone629 The Nintendo switch with its library of games is the best thing Nintendo has ever done. Maybe even the best machine in gaming with how many masterpieces are on it. I made sure in this video to say that the new leaders are still very much respected and competent, as evident by the success of the switch. The video only compares the aspect of how personable they are and how engaging they are with the audience, which is undeniably at a much lesser level nowadays. This was not meant to be a knock on the quality of modern Nintendo, just an opportunity to reminesce some quality experiences and approaches that are no longer part of this newer more successful Nintendo.
Thank you for watching!
I miss the weird Nintendo, modern Nintendo is very bland, generic and soulless :( you can really see this in the Directs, they used to be Nintendo showing off some passion projects with enthusiastic developers showing insight whereas now they are ''GET EXCITED FOR PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT''... like there is no way stuff like that Funko garbage would have made it into a Wii U or 3DS Direct
was good, keep going
Back when I actually liked Nintendo.
The brand Nintendo era (2006-2024)
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I completely agree. While Nintendo Directs are dense with news now, they do not live up to their name. They are not direct.
What changed Nintendo was their business ideologies. Nintendo used to innovate creative ideas that changed the way people game, they didn’t just live off their own hype but they also used to come up with new ways to generate it. Modern Nintendo live off the hype created by old Nintendo.
Yup. Closest thing they had to hype in modern times were Smash announcements for highly requested characters, and I'm fairly certain it was mainly due to Etika's positive energy.. when he was around. RIP.
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Man, in 20 years, people are gonna be glazing the Switch. They just revived all three Mario RPG franchises in the same year and you’re acting like they haven’t been doing jack.
@@BareBandSubscription Revived? You mean the Super Mario RPG remake by Microsoft Office, the Paper Mario game that runs better on the Gamecube than the Switch, and now Brothership which may or may not be good since it's not out and we don't know what it's going to entail?
Did they also "revive" F-Zero when they brought F-Zero 99? I know what I'm saying sounds dark, but it's the reality we're living in. Compare the SNES version of Super Mario RPG and tell me the Switch version doesn't look lifeless by comparison.
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I’m sorry, are two dream remakes that nobody thought would ever happen as well as a new M&L entry after like ten years not good enough for you? My bad, dawg. Didn’t realize you were so hard to please.
Also, as a diehard fan of Mario RPG for SNES since childhood, I thought the Switch game looked basically perfect, played great, and had great new content I still go back to. It nailed the look of like 99% of the original renders from all the promotional material I’d see growing up. It’s also just a better game than the original (which does not hold up visually at all unless it’s being played on a CRT, btw). As a fan of that game, you’re wrong. Empty cynicism isn’t high taste.
@@BareBandSubscription Not when they look so uninspired or run like shit compared to the original console they were initially developed on... from a billion dollar company. It's not about being hard to please. It's about how I want to spend my 60-70$ and what I expect to see if Nintendo wants my money.
I'm sorry that you cannot accept these things. It must be hard for you.
Idk about Wii U, but my favorite experiences were on the Gamecube. If I were to compare:
Sunshine vs Odyssey - They're Mario games, but I didn't really get into them and played them equally as little.
WW and TP vs BotW and TotK - These Zelda games feel even to me. I enjoy them all, though TotK does feel like BotW but just more, while TP is completely different from WW.
Kirby Air Ride vs Forgotten Kingdom - Kirby Air Ride without a doubt. This experience hasn't come back since, and the closest thing we got to it was Smash Run on Smash for 3DS.
Colosseum and XD vs Sw/Sh and S/V - Hahaha... yeah Colosseum hands down. Pokemon games on Switch are buggy and not worth full price.
F-Zero GX vs F-Zero 99 - ...Really? F-Zero GX. Baffles me that they really can't seem to bring more to do with F-Zero other than a battle royale.
Not going to give Switch praise for sharing the Steam library but at much poorer capability. Sales numbers also do not depict whether a game or console is good or successful since scalpers exist and we can have better experiences elsewhere.
That's not even including the other titles like Custom Robo, Billy Hatcher, Mario Kart Double Dash, Animal Crossing, and many others.
The Gamecube was honestly balls compared to the Switch. I was a Gamecube kid and even I thought it was generally underwhelming. The prevalent amount of backtracking and padding in a lot of the first party stuff was evident, and the third party support was lousy compared to PS2 and Xbox. I think people have really overhyped the GameCube lately. It was arguably the least inspired piece of hardware Nintendo ever put out and the library wasn’t even really as experimental as people make it out to be now (“make new franchise entry but add water” isn’t terribly creative, nor is “turn original IP into Star Fox”). The Switch has actively done things I never thought would happen, from dream pick Smash characters, to the Mario RPG revival, to out-of-left-field stuff like Deadly Premonition 2 (not a great game, but one that was surely NEVER going to get greenlit otherwise) and new localizations of stuff like Radical Dreamers, AAI2, etc, like I really don’t get how anyone’s down on the Switch. The thing has delivered.
@@BareBandSubscription I think the gamecube by itself wasn't much of a thing design-wise due to not having the ability to play DVDs like the others, but the controller design and the games were seen in a much better light once people gave it a chance.
I could see Switch getting praise for being a system that was just underwhelming for what it did, that it could have had better hardware, but the ability to "switch" between portable and home display setups was always a good idea. Sadly, I think people will remember the Switch for the buggy, unplayable versions of games that were put on the console. That it had a few good titles that were interesting, like Smash Ultimate, Odyssey, and BotW, and the ability to run Witcher 3 despite looking much worse, but that it really started to fall off after that due to poor business decisions, lack of VC support, poor online play that you had to pay for, and many more negatives.
Much worse than the Gamecube looking like a lunchbox.
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That’s a pretty odd thing to believe when the Switch has had a much more commercially and critically successful lifecycle than the GameCube had. Like, I don’t get how you think the Switch is gonna suddenly get less popular overtime and not enjoy a nostalgic renaissance like the GameCube and Wii currently are, but okay. Plus my point about the first-party output being riddled with padding still stands, as do my points about the crummy third-party support and superficial experimentation.
@@BareBandSubscription Yeah idk why people want remakes of Gamecube games, why Melee lasted so much longer than others, and why people want Gamecube controller support.
I ignored your padding comment because you really don't see the padding in Switch titles. I would point out Switch games being buggier than Gamecube, and while Gamecube had its own faulty games, it was still early in the 3D span alongside N64. Nintendo has had Wii, Wii U, and now Switch to stop screwing around... yet here we are.
Third party support on a Nintendo console just means "Hey, we got those games you can get on Steam, except they run worse on our consoles."
And superficial experimentation isn't just a Gamecube exclusive. Ninty sells overpriced SD cards and other products (that should be labeled "Early Access", btw) for waaay more than they deserve just because it has their logo on it. If you're falling for that, I wouldn't be surprised if you prefer iOS over Android.
Bring back Miiverse and Reggie problem solved 😊
Idk man i prefear the new direct that is,indeed, more direct,they tried in 2022/2021 whit the switch sport but man if it was slow
Tbf I think the current Nintendo Direct approach being so rapid fire feels like that it's a byproduct of them inserting all of these 3rd party titles including the dime a dozen JRPGs they seemingly waste too much time on.
At the very least from a game development standpoint, remakes for Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario TTYD is a level of fan service that none of us expected would ever happen.
@@PipeGuy64Bit Can't forget about all the farming simulators they show 😆
Bro used ChatGPT to write this 💀💀
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