Mario's Journey From Weird To Normal To Weird Again

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  • @darioelsinapodo8448
    @darioelsinapodo8448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    You explained this on a very funny way! I never understood why corporates think more original ideas and characters were bad, like if f*cking Koops from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door scared people and made them not wanna buy games.

    • @volvoman5262
      @volvoman5262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's not koops, it's tippy, count bleck, mimi, and liteary everyone else from Super Paper Mario, since both Miyamoto and Tanabe thought that the game was a hardly a Mario game, the Infamous Club Nintendo poll, confirmed their decition to never do anything like this ever again, but took it too far

    • @darioelsinapodo8448
      @darioelsinapodo8448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@volvoman5262 Now that makes sense. SPM designs are actually weird, some even ugly in my opinion, and most characters don’t feel like Mario characters.

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@darioelsinapodo8448At the end of the day, Mario is Miyamoto's creation, and his responsibility. Games like New Super Mario Bros are the equivalent of songs that songwriters write to "pay the bills", maybe not the most dignified, but they do the job commercially, and can ultimately allow them to make projects they're actually passionate about. The problem becomes, when and how much does the lack of soul show?

    • @darioelsinapodo8448
      @darioelsinapodo8448 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nicholastricarico2957 Yeah that’s true, I don’t dislike the New Sup Games nor the concept of a certain piece of media been made “to pay the bills”, because at the end of the the day, is your job too, but I think when it’s on something exterior from you, limiting it feels weird. Like, Miyamoto can do everything as he wants on games where he is the head, but feels odd from one generation to the other, he decided to limit the creation of spin off characters. That could be related to protection of his creation, but with how big the Mario franchise is, it feels like trying to contain something enormous on something tiny. Also, I think this isn’t fully a Miyamoto thing, because it feels more of a corporate decision to make the brand recognizable, which is kinda what my comment was going for. I think this is primarily done when barriers where over passed like how the video talks about it, when they give to much liberty like on Hotel Mario, the OG movie, Super Paper Mario (those don’t look as Mario, and some not even as atractive characters in my opinion), etc. so then waters kinda cool down, and they can give that type of liberty again. Sorry for the unnecessarily long comment.

    • @krakios3950
      @krakios3950 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It boils down to more original ideas being riskier than reusing things people have already shown themselves to enjoy. That's also why the movie industry has made so many more adaptations, remakes, and sequels rather than original characters in the past few years.
      Nothing specific to Nintendo, just business.

  • @fntthesmth423
    @fntthesmth423 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    To be honest when you brought up Super Mario Maker, I was expecting you to bring up the troll level community and turn it into a tale of "the fans of weird mario helped to realize mario's weird dreams"! Teamwork makes the dream work and all

  • @CypherSomari
    @CypherSomari หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Nice vid but seriously i am the only one that is surprised that he didn't talked about Super Mario Land 1 and especially 2? Like those games are on the same boat as SMB2 USA: They were weird but they aren't bad (SML2 is on my top 10) but for some reason Nintendo keeps ignoring those games

    • @PMJ11_
      @PMJ11_  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Mario land was very briefly considered for a segment but after writing over 20 pages of the videos script it became clear that I couldn’t talk about absolutely everything other cuts included: Mario is missing, Mario’s time machine and I am a teacher: Mario sweater as well as other sections getting significantly cut down like Mario Strikers and DDR Mario Mix. And even after all the cuts the video was still 50 minutes long.

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Let’s just ignore the fact that The two Mario and Luigi remakes lead to the bankruptcy of the series devs effectively murdering the sub-series for 5 years, 9 if you’re strictly talking about new entries

    • @PMJ11_
      @PMJ11_  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Please ignore all facts contradictory to my statements

  • @3dsfan2002
    @3dsfan2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    3d land was never disappointing

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    _the absolute scream of joy I let off when Mario and Luigi Brothership was revealed_

  • @SaddieMoon
    @SaddieMoon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Nice of the Princess to invite us over for a picnic, ay Luigi?

  • @TheMarioManiac
    @TheMarioManiac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Early to Mid 2010’s Mario games… Jesus it still scars me.

    • @3dsfan2002
      @3dsfan2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheMarioManiac 3d land and Mario kart 7 are goat

    • @3dsfan2002
      @3dsfan2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheMarioManiac 3ds Pokémon is goat

    • @andreavoigtlander1087
      @andreavoigtlander1087 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those were amazing.

  • @TOXICTRIFORCE
    @TOXICTRIFORCE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    14:47 HEY! THAT'S ME! IM IN THE VIDEO! WHAT?! Thanks for collabing with me PMJ!

    • @EATHAN8000-in5wu
      @EATHAN8000-in5wu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Subbed!

    • @WiiFan-1300
      @WiiFan-1300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL congrats!!

    • @TOXICTRIFORCE
      @TOXICTRIFORCE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@WiiFan-1300 Thanks 😎

    • @WiiFan-1300
      @WiiFan-1300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TOXICTRIFORCE You’re very welcome ^^

  • @wantedasylum1091
    @wantedasylum1091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For a character that's a stand in for the player, Mario has gone through many of caricatures. It's not as bad as say Sonic the Hedgehog, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, but it was certainly close. And being the gaming version of Mickey Mouse, the brand still needs to be authentic while also being experimental, so it ends up being this impossible grey area between identity crisis and a set direction. And both Super Mario Odyssey, Mario & Rabbids, and later Super Mario Bros. Wonder are what broke that mold, depending on who you ask did it better.

  • @gooeydude574
    @gooeydude574 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I actually think Mario wonder should’ve gotten weirder by having a different villain than Bowser for a change. Maybe bring back Wart or Tatanga

    • @volvoman5262
      @volvoman5262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "I hate the main villian of the frenchise showing up in mainline games!"

    • @gooeydude574
      @gooeydude574 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@volvoman5262 no, I don’t hate Bowser

    • @dunkleosteusterrelli
      @dunkleosteusterrelli หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@volvoman5262 literally not implied at all

    • @TexTheGuy
      @TexTheGuy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@volvoman5262 tf was that for

    • @steroidsjob.mp4
      @steroidsjob.mp4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@volvoman5262
      Guy 1: ”I like pancakes”
      Guy 2: “so you hate waffles??”

  • @krakios3950
    @krakios3950 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the best parts about the Mario Renaissance is that it's given people a reason to look back on games that never got a chance (ie Paper Mario: Color Splash) and see what they missed out on before

  • @Kirby-Rock
    @Kirby-Rock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    To be Fair, Mario party 9 wasn’t Miyamoto Fault at all, the last Mario party (DS) and predecessors were made by de company Hudson Soft but then it dissolved leaving it to ND cube (part of Nintendo) and the rest is history.
    M. Maker: According to Takashi Tezuka, the weird mushroom it was just a bug that made Mario skinny, the team liked it and made the mushroom.

  • @Irkaylub
    @Irkaylub 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    "To Weird Again"
    picks a very normal image of mario

    • @sleeperagentyami
      @sleeperagentyami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That mf is Chris Pratt. Abnormal

  • @lolipoper1515
    @lolipoper1515 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the most underrated channel i have ever encountered❤ i will follow everything thats coming un the future

  • @z.a.k.e.n.3901
    @z.a.k.e.n.3901 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    until miyamoto finds out about rom hacks 😀

    • @dunkleosteusterrelli
      @dunkleosteusterrelli หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      knew for a while

    • @z.a.k.e.n.3901
      @z.a.k.e.n.3901 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @dunkleosteusterrelli especially how bubble mario came from new super mario world. It released in 2018. Years before Super Marip Bros. Wonder entered development. Damn

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why precisely do you think all of those Pokemon ROM hacks got shut down?

    • @z.a.k.e.n.3901
      @z.a.k.e.n.3901 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nicholastricarico2957 Rom hacks? Rom hacks are perfectly legal. It's just when you turn them into actual games, the Nintendo Ninjas get involved

  • @PeachyCatty
    @PeachyCatty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    why would miyamoto *want* the mario movie to do bad

    • @PMJ11_
      @PMJ11_  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I would like to hereby discourage looking for plot holes

    • @BowserEditz
      @BowserEditz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@PMJ11_ seriously tho why would he

    • @krakios3950
      @krakios3950 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In this plot, it's because Miyamoto wanted to continue playing it extremely safe and wanted to use the movie as a way to show the worst of what creativity/non-standard choices could do

  • @CoolGuy-te1pt
    @CoolGuy-te1pt 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Moral of the story: a balance must be struck between weirdness and blandness

  • @Funkylilfella
    @Funkylilfella หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember watching the Super Mario Super Show everyday as a kid I loved it so much which was funny considering I had never played a Mario game before and it was like 2016. 10/10 show, go watch it.

    • @TOXICTRIFORCE
      @TOXICTRIFORCE หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like I said in my segment, it's a timeless classic!

  • @allenroman1038
    @allenroman1038 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While Mario may never completely return to the type of weirdness that he once been like in hotel mario, he unintentionally manifested an entity that branched off from officoialality who in itself is an entity of chaos and media that while is currently holding on to a branch of relativity, still leaves his marks when used properly. This being is one that Miyamoto cannot restrict or control himself truly, but is one fans of mario could potentially shape and multiply. We have seen this being several times throughout this video, and to top it all off, vastly resembles Mario’s brother Luigi. The entity in question…
    Weegee.

  • @Nokia3310do
    @Nokia3310do 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video. I enjoyed this take. Personally, I like characters to be consistent. Sure, put him in different costumes here and there, different settings, keep it fresh. I would really like a 2D game in the style of early 90s box art Mario though. Those illustrations are what the real OG Mario looks like for me. So, that... with the same kind of approach as Cuphead for the animations.

  • @Cheese-Slime-Sheriff
    @Cheese-Slime-Sheriff 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mario wonder was Mario fighting for his series, a whole game that fights against the regular plat forming with constant changes.

  • @VHSandcloudy
    @VHSandcloudy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:52 where can I find this game!

  • @kill_understanding8597
    @kill_understanding8597 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    holy fuck you are hilarious. please keep making videos, i’m addicted

  • @super.toad.oddecy
    @super.toad.oddecy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    16:16 I mean I know the context but still...

    • @TOXICTRIFORCE
      @TOXICTRIFORCE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had to put it in! I JUST HAD TO!

  • @Narteketh
    @Narteketh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a fever dream of a video. I love it!

  • @-Arimation-
    @-Arimation- 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:31 if they only released 2000 copies the rom would no doubt get leaked

  • @nicholastricarico2957
    @nicholastricarico2957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Whatever you feel about this video, 9/10 description.

  • @TDAbiber
    @TDAbiber หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn you got me so hyped. I felt I was watching an anime battle, lol

  • @allenroman1038
    @allenroman1038 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    22:36 NOOO DONT TAKE HIM!

  • @mzg1237
    @mzg1237 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know I'm on the wrong side of history but I loved the New Super Mario Bros games. In the present I agree with what everyone says, that they were "safe" and "standardized", and New Super Mario Bros 2 was definitely my least favorite because it did nothing, but I really liked them. Not sure how I feel about the latest games yet, but also not nearly familiar with them

  • @Sorinian
    @Sorinian หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sorry Miyamoto, Mario told me to make it.

  • @CasenFlare
    @CasenFlare 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are you using ai art

  • @dunkleosteusterrelli
    @dunkleosteusterrelli หลายเดือนก่อน

    alot NES games _are_ difficult
    but they still follow basic game principles and aren't just Little Timmy levels except Little Timmy was multiple timmies and they were grown up
    SMB2JP is legit just a bunch of levels stitched together that the devs made for fun and decided to actually publish
    like some of the levels in the game, publishing that in the US would've been... a leap of faith and it would've likely done bad

  • @MrPija
    @MrPija 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah keep up the good content

  • @sargentsandwich4343
    @sargentsandwich4343 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is a perfect video because its not just the basic history of Mario as a franchise, but makes the claim that Mario games we're weird at the start but he gets standardized over time. Bravo

  • @BowserEditz
    @BowserEditz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is this a joke that miyamoto is portrayed as this evil controlling man and making fun of people who believe in the miyamoto made Mario bland theory or is this spreading misinformation

    • @TOXICTRIFORCE
      @TOXICTRIFORCE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's obviously a joke being made for storytelling purposes.

    • @juliannocartagena2007
      @juliannocartagena2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kinda?

    • @sleeperagentyami
      @sleeperagentyami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Naw, that dude is messed up and he hates mario enjoying life.

    • @BowserEditz
      @BowserEditz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Finished the video and yeah hes joking

  • @izoomee9838
    @izoomee9838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved the video but still don't entirely get what the point of it is meant to be outside mario being weird is fun. It just felt like I watched a conspiracy theory except like a conspiracy theory told by Alex Jones after he does three tabs of acids /pos

    • @PMJ11_
      @PMJ11_  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not the reaction I expected but I’ll take it

    • @Sloptopia
      @Sloptopia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "the mario mandates" is just qanon for people who write dimentio fanfiction

    • @volvoman5262
      @volvoman5262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sloptopia you mean Fawfulthegreat64?

  • @duckie4209
    @duckie4209 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Charles isn't dead tho

  • @tbshow2007
    @tbshow2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    w vid!!! i like the scott the woz style youre going for keep it up!!

  • @poob1082
    @poob1082 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a zoomer modern AVGN.... Good job

  • @Mushie_lol
    @Mushie_lol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ai images ☹️ gonna have to not like bc of that
    Bfdi mouth jumpscare

    • @PMJ11_
      @PMJ11_  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      if it helps at all, I hope to eventually be able to pay an artist to do stuff like that one day I am just currently broke

    • @PurpleFury2375
      @PurpleFury2375 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You don't have to deny a like over that. He worked hard on this regardless

  • @juliannocartagena2007
    @juliannocartagena2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the weirdest video I’ve ever seen on this topic! Also why do you act like Charles Martinet DIED?! HE’S FINE!

    • @TOXICTRIFORCE
      @TOXICTRIFORCE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hes gone. He has perished.

    • @juliannocartagena2007
      @juliannocartagena2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TOXICTRIFORCE Don’t lie to me!

    • @seganintendofan1
      @seganintendofan1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If so then why is he at con right now

    • @juliannocartagena2007
      @juliannocartagena2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seganintendofan1 Yeah! This guy here tells truth!

    • @mrman2476
      @mrman2476 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Take your meds dude. He's been dead for 57 years now.

  • @alphamarigi
    @alphamarigi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The mario movie and switch sports games sucked

    • @PurpleFury2375
      @PurpleFury2375 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The new one or the live action one?

    • @andreavoigtlander1087
      @andreavoigtlander1087 หลายเดือนก่อน

      based.

    • @dunkleosteusterrelli
      @dunkleosteusterrelli หลายเดือนก่อน

      the (new) Mario movie wasn't great perse but honestly it was still pretty good

  • @Scorbunny_is_NOT_wild
    @Scorbunny_is_NOT_wild 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fame

  • @sableskullmuncher9848
    @sableskullmuncher9848 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Y lost me at 14:47 that was a fuckin fever dream

  • @howdoyousayidk
    @howdoyousayidk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    :)

  • @3dsfan2002
    @3dsfan2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who cares!!!! 35:30

    • @PMJ11_
      @PMJ11_  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s fucked up

    • @3dsfan2002
      @3dsfan2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PMJ11_ very minor complaint, like I hardly even care for waluigi

    • @3dsfan2002
      @3dsfan2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PMJ11_ when the heck was 3d land disappointing?!

    • @PurpleFury2375
      @PurpleFury2375 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@3dsfan2002ok and? It's a character who is not a standard enemy that Nintendo seemingly refuses to do anything with, but they keep using him.

    • @dunkleosteusterrelli
      @dunkleosteusterrelli หลายเดือนก่อน

      bait used to be believable