I seem to be the only one in the comments who cares about this but when I watch a video about suppressors, I generally expect to hear audio of them actually being shot...db readings are also extremely helpful and IMO should be a given when talking about a suppressor.
agreed on the shooting part. this vid is 3mo old, we now do much more shooting in front of the cam as we find people do like to see and hear even tho the cam does not capture that sound so well. DB puts a number to the volume and is nice but is IMO not the best info in fact i find it miss leading. we will do a vid on just that soon. thanks for watching
what is the best way to contact you all? we reached out via your web sight and have not herd back. maybe there is a marketing director we could connect with?
Oh, something else to consider, maybe reach out to High Speed Ballistics to get high speed footage of where and how gasses escape from a typical AR and suppressor. It'd be nice to know if things like gas busting charging handles actually work, or if "enhanced bolts" like the LMT, blow off more gas from the ejection port.
I care about back pressure and barrel length. I was trying unsuccessfully to find a YHM turbo 3. No gas in the face and very affordable. In the interim I ordered a radian charging handle that also helps reduce gas in the face.
@@ErtacticalI am about to find out as I ordered it for my DD to make sure as it is designed to do that. It is the 556 designed to keep the gas in the face. Just in case it is a partial flow through back pressure.
@@ErtacticalI would recommend just getting an adjustable gas block if you are worried about gas with a can, charging handles do make a difference but it’s not very much
@@tristanrhodes2949 agreed, that’s one of the best ways to handle the increased gas. However, if you plan to run the rifle without a suppressor, then you’ll need to have some type of quick adjustment system. This is where the Riflespeed gas block really does big favors. We made a video on how to mitigate back pressure. And I present a few of my favorite ways. However, there are several ways, especially if you’re going to dedicate the suppressor to the rifle.
@@Ertactical I have the Odin works adjustable gas block and the adjustment screw can be reached from the end of my handguard I just used zip ties and tucked the Allen wrench in my handguard so I can adjust for suppressed/unsuppressed without disassembly
Owns 50 cans but shoots at a public range… This is why i laugh at guys who go around talking about their collection… If you dont have your own private indoor range/outdoor range, on your own property, 20+ acres minimum, then you are just renting your guns from the gun range and get to store them at your home. $50k in cans…public range…or in other words…why Guntube has ruined collecting… All backwards…gun collecting should arise out of the ability to do your hobby on your own terms. Instead, its all marketing now and seeing how gullible people are to get them to keep buying, while they live in apartments, townhouses and single family homes with postage stamp yards… So you have guys whose 900sqft house is lined wall to wall with cheap $600 pistols and cheapest ar variants, psa…and their “collection” 50 cans and he cant even shoot them without a range safety officer scolding him because he fired two rounds in succession Get a new hobby big dog…
I’m highly interested in the Dead Air Nomad L since I want the most suppression possible. I’m tending to the Ti version since it’s going on a hunting rifle but also curious if the sound difference between steel and Titanium is noticeable? Any chance you can shoot and compare them to each other side by side?
Have several 30 cal cans and the ventum has become my favorite to shoot even on shorter 556 platforms. Sounds great (especially to the shooter outdoors), back pressure/gas to the face is almost nothing (gas is minimal even on guns like the x95 where it’s a real issue), and sparking largely goes away after a few hundred rounds (hux is pretty open about that due to the manufacturing process). Another solid video Sir!
I'm up to I think 11 cans now? - Dead Air Wolverine x2 - Spike's Tactical MRS-2 x1 - SilencerCo Hybrid 46 x1 - SilencerCo Omega 300 x3 (#3 being the BOGO from last year, still hasn't even gotten to the shop) - SilencerCo Velos 5.56 x1 - SilencerCo Saker 5.56 x1 - SilencerCo Sparrow-Ti x1 - SilencerCo Octane 9 x1 Wolverines for the AK's, love the platform but I need to get one more because I own four AK's and of course between them there's 3 different thread pitches -- M24x1.5 RH: PSA AK-105, M14x1 LH: PSA GF5 & Polish Tantal, M26.5x1.5 LH: Zastava M92. Need to get a third so I don't have to ever change mounts out. The Tantal isn't compatible with any Dead AIr collars without chopping the barrel down to NFA lengths, of course the Polish just have to be weird about it. Thankfully I was able to get ahold of Lantac's AK-ASR variant of their Drakon muzzle brake for use with the SiCo cans. The ST suppressor was my first NFA purchase along with the Compressor rifle it came with. Got that bad boy all the way back in 2012, early adopter of 300 Blackout here. Hybrid was my first multi-use can, got it so I could put it on basically anything below a 50. Have used it on probably 7 or 8 different calibers at this point up to my 45 LC Henry. The Omega 300's are for 300 Blackout and 308 rifles and also for the Tantal mentioned earlier. For the Tantal I decided to play it safe since even though I have a washer on there to keep the muzzle device pretty rock solid it still has a little bit of wiggle to it. AK's gonna AK. The Velos has been my favorite can since I got it. Run it on every 5.56 (and 5.7) rifle I can from a 10.5" up to 20". Need to get another, will probably go with the K model next. The Saker I got because I needed a 5.56 can and to get me into the BOGO money zone for the Omega 300 last year. Not a bad can just heavily outclassed by the Velos, although it is considerably lighter. Sparrow TI I got for 5.7 & 22. Can't even tell it's there it's so lightweight. - Octane 9 was from the BOGO two years ago, it's a permanent fixture on my MPX now.
Definitely a good collection you're growing there. Yeah, the Velos was definitely impressive during our backpressure test and we look forward to putting more rounds through it. Thanks for watching 🍻
@@SilencerSyndicate Thanks! I might take a look at the Ventum as well. Like you mention in your videos, forcing proprietary mounts/muzzle devices isn't something I'm a fan of which is why I've gravitated so heavily toward the hub size cans. Which incidentally isn't even something I knew about when I bought the Hybrid as my first multi-rifle can. I just wanted a 45 cal can with good reviews and I liked the way it looked. Glad my somewhat ignorant past self accidentally made a great decision to get into the hub size & ASR ecosystem. Since the Ventum is hub size and I happen to have a spare Bravo ASR mount laying around from my Hybrid now being parked on either my 338 or 45 LC it's in serious contention with the Velos K for my next purchase.
@@jccarp2the core is titanium but the rest of the can is steel that’s why it’s heavier. I have several 30 cal cans including the ventum and personally I think it sounds great to the shooter and the “sparking” gets way better after higher round counts.
changing the tone is a big difference. 556 is not quiet... and the gas in the face sucks my oss is beast, they switched named and changed the model while i was waiting
If you guys are after educating prospective suppressor buyers, I'd hope you guys would incorporate comparing your experiences with the test results and analysis of PewScience. That way you aren't completely reliant on your subjective opinions on each suppressor, you can actually compare and/or validate your experience with concrete, accurate suppressor testing data, that is free to the public
wonder how a wider frame with baffles and filaments of some sort would work or the addition of little hole/holes placed in specific baffle chambers would affect the gas escaping?
Hey man.. Whats you recommendation for my .416 Stroker (its a 408 Cheytac necked up to a 416 and Ackley Improved...at 2975 bfps with n500grain Cutting Edge Bullet.) Ive been shooting my SilencerCo Omega 30 Cal and my SilencerCo Hybrid 45 cal for a few years on my smaller Bore Rifles. I like the Huxwrx best because of no back pressure. .Great Video..Thanks Im now a Subscriber
Rob, I have the nomad L , how would that stock up against B&T’s new SBRS762 on a mark 18 , I have their SBRS556 and love it thanks to you . Just wondering if the 762 is worth buying thanks.
good Q... its stupid quiet but crazy BP... the SRBS is all around amazing IMO. I like the 556 on the 556 and not the 762 on the 556. we have done some testing on that and plan to do much more.
@@Ertactical thanks for replying. I think I’m gonna pass on their 762. It’s pretty hard for anything out there to beat the nomad L , Keep up the good work, and I’m really enjoying your channel .
Flow through suppressors don't inhibit the performance/function of a rifle the way high back pressure cans do. Low back pressure cans might not be as quiet, but they cause far fewer issues and typically don't require mitigation such as adjustable gas blocks or different buffers or springs to get them dialed in. Thanks for watching!
I have had only a little testing with the banish and i was not too impressed. Id love to do more testing other stuff but very HIGH back pressure. thank you for your support!
I’m currently saving for the ventum 762, but I’m not sure what hub device I want to go with. I’m leaning towards the Griffin Gate Lok because my rifles already have a compatible birdcage on them.
As a guy who's broken more than his share of cam pins and bolt lugs above and below extractor I'd be more into the flow threw low back presure can. I don't run subsonics in larger than 22lr & 9mm I want 2100fps out of my 300blk and 3K out of my 5.56 becouse rifle velocity kills. I also hate cleaning and want more shooting not gun stops up looking like a chimney at 300 rounds
wonder how a wider frame with baffles and filaments of some sort would work or the addition of little hole/holes placed in specific baffle chambers would affect the gas escaping? what causes and decreases back pressure?
Rob, can you also do an over view of how you mount your suppressors and what your preferred mounting system is and why. Thank you for the great content.
thanks! yes we will film that soon! its super imported and subjective. But i will def give my thoughts on it soon. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I've had 6 years experience in building Form 1 suppressors. You do NOT need exotic metals like Titanium or Iconel for a suppressor. Those metals are rated for FULL AUTO. How many of the 2.66 Million (2021) registered suppressors are on machine guns? Very few. Carbon steel and Stainless Steel will do just fine for the hunter or for target practice that the average person would use it for. Don't waste your money, build your own for $300 or less depending on the caliber, not including the $200 Tax Stamp..
we are testing a new batch of cans and are very impressed. If you are cool with letting us test a little more we will release some new favs given the 30 some more cans we have now tested.
I want a Hux for a permanent mount on my home defense AR so I'm thinking the Hux 556k should be best for me. I'll never be swapping between different platforms.
We should hopefully be able to test the Speek K soon. If you haven't already, checkout the interview we did with Silencer Central at CANCON: th-cam.com/video/m8342z5Fh_s/w-d-xo.html
you have done well! more to follow as some of the new tests are revealing some new favs! stay tuned.. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
please don't do that math, don't you put that evil on me ricky bobby.. thank you! much more to come! please continue to help us grow the channel with you likes comments and please share with your friends!
@@Ertactical lmao sorry man! 😂😂 it was just an intrusive thought after you said how many cans you had. Owning two…400 is too much for me to pay. But over 50?! 😮
The best I can do is a short video from 2017 shortly after getting my Tax Stamp for the Form 1 30 Caliber suppressor test firing. My 300BLK rifle has a pistol length gas system so it cycles on any ammo. Just click my name.
Would you suggest the polonium k for a short 300 blk build? I'm looking for something short & quiet, low back pressure, light weight. In that Order. I know youbsaid it has high back pressure but I'm not sure if I can find one suppressor with everything I'm looking for.
Rob, question for you. Are there any 2 point suppressors on the commercial market? Reason I ask, is that I have had, what I consider, decent sound suppression, manageable backpressure, and a shorter package on a 16" platform. Form 1. Tweety
Every gas operated rifle I shoot has an adjustable gas block, so i don’t really care about back pressure. I care about how quiet the silencer is and it being lightweight. Resilient Jolene is a heavyweight sleeper in the silencer universe. Its sound suppression is up there with the OCL hydrogen L, the Hyperion and the nomad L. It’s cheaper than those too.
Thanks for the great content. Was never really interested in a suppressor until most recently when the approval timeline by the ATF has been significantly reduced. For those of us that have an AK 47 as well as an AR 15, which suppressor would you recommend that can do double duty? I would also like to see how issues with concentricity can be resolved on an AK rifle. How to determine if you even have an issue? I believe that would make a great video content.
@@Ertactical I just did a lot research looking for a M14x1 LH Muzzle device for a ASR connection and the only thing that came was the Lantac Dragon 7.62 M14x1 Muzzle device. It's not available anywhere. Looks like the ASR mounting solution is not for me unless I get the barrel re-threaded to 5/8x 24.
Great video. The regular polonium 5.56 is rated down to a 10.3 barrel per their site. Maybe back pressure is an issue. I compared it to an old huntertown arms kestrel and besides weight savings , the sound was virtually identical. In other words , the polonium is a nice can, i was personally expecting a sound difference on a 11.5” when comparing it to that older can but realistically its about the same.
I like it! I subscribed! I would probably lean toward the Dead Air Nomad L, because the whole reason, for my getting a suppressor is to be super quiet. And we all want the most sound suppression possible. Plus, I don't want the expense of multiple cans & tax stamps! And the universal mounting system is a great PRO in my book.
@@Ertactical ill definitely tune in, asr isnt really dookie lmao but tbh dont have experience with the asr mount my self personally but have read and seen many calling it antiquated. Although, the plan b style mounts have never came loose on me and the fact the so many muzzle device options are out there from so many manufactures to me makes it the best, also its much cheaper as most muzzle breaks are between 50-100 and mounts all sit right around 100 and in many different tube pitches as well. Not to mention the huge weight savings.
I want the Ventum bad. I saw one review that show a lot of the titanium sparks while shooting. Not a fan of that. Can anyone else comment on your experience with that?
The ventum has a 500 rd break in. Iv'e got about 1,500 rd through mine and it doesn't spark much. An impressive suppressor, though. Glad I got one so early.
Why isn't AB Suppressor on the list? All the testing they demonstrate on their web site seems to indicate they are quieter than their competitors in many cases.
What’s the “best” .556 suppressor for a left handed shooter using a righty rifle? Would assume a huxworks to keep back pressure and gas out of the face.
@@Ertacticalventum or srbs if you could only choose one of the two, my main concern is flash mitigation but it would also be on a non adjustable gas block so that makes me lean towards the hux
I have the 762 not the 556.. i have seen them come out but i am happy with the 762.. if they offer me the 556 ill take it but i don't think ill be buying one.
that would be a great vid!! good call! we just finished filming a comparison of ALL the reduced BP cans and we found a new winner! stay tuned! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I have two Form 1 Suppressors I built 5 and 6 years ago. Both are Hollywood quiet with subsonic ammo. I would post my design for a multi caliber suppressor (only difference is the diameter of the center bore), but youtube will not let me link to onedrive or google photos. They delete any comment that links to my files.
@@Ertactical oh wow, I'm shocked with all of the suppressors you own that you weren't aware! Excited to see some content once you've gotten your hands on either or both 🤣
Preach Brother!! Love my Nomad L and Ventum 762... Dont have the Otter because of the back pressure issue, but if I did want a K can, Id prob lean towards the Sandman K... But the K's just dont appeal to me...
Agree an the Sandman L being awesome. Griffin Armament SPR reflex suppressor is my favorite on the 5.56 SBR. You should check out the Witt Machine Cannooter Valve. It's a tiny suppressors that worked well with my Tavor. (And the only Witt Machine suppressor we tried that didn't suck)
Knights Armament 556 QDC/CRS-PRT as I have four now. Built like a tank. Also, I still have 5 different HUXWRX. One Odessa-9 and one Spectre-9. I love the HUXWRX but the new KAC is crazy.
@@Ertactical well see you make money off of yours on your page. I guess me I’m just a collector that is addicted. I just put me an armory craft compensator on DA/SA226 Legion. Today lol but I have been on those PDW lately the bravo by strike industries I had to get me one of these for my P3 20 legion and then put a suppressor on that you know how it goes.
@@dannypierce1426 we do not make $. Our channel is not monetized and we do not push anyone’s product nor do we advertise. We are simply sharing our experiences. This channel has cost us lots of money. One day we hope it will make money. But that day is not today.
I think that the versatility of suppressor mounts is way bigger for you with the number of cans that you have versus the average person. If you talk to someone that is just going to get one or two suppressors I dont see it being a big deal to throw a HuxWrx muzzle device on the gun, definitely not as much as you like to say that it is.
very true, this is what you need to have a conversation before buying, gotta know what your family size is and needs before recommending a car to them. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I’m still trying to decide on a suppressor for a 6.5 CM gas gun (LMT) down to 2 options the DA Nomad L or Griffin PSR 7 (like the OTB design) The PSR is supposed to be reduced BP can just not too many videos on that on. Thinking with a EBrake it could lower the pressure a bit……. Decisions Decisions lol
I wish I could help but i have no hands on time with Griffen cans. Ill reach out to them to see if i can get some! Glad you are enjoying the channel! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Its a great can! got many more we are currently testing and they look good! I might change my top 3 soon.. we shall see. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I seem to be the only one in the comments who cares about this but when I watch a video about suppressors, I generally expect to hear audio of them actually being shot...db readings are also extremely helpful and IMO should be a given when talking about a suppressor.
agreed on the shooting part. this vid is 3mo old, we now do much more shooting in front of the cam as we find people do like to see and hear even tho the cam does not capture that sound so well. DB puts a number to the volume and is nice but is IMO not the best info in fact i find it miss leading. we will do a vid on just that soon. thanks for watching
Agreed. There's almost no videos on suppressors that I've seen, that actually test the decibel reduction
@jonquirk9582 because they are all basically the same
Video audio is extremely hard to judge. I'm more concerned about the durability and weight.
Great info, thanks Rob.
what is the best way to contact you all? we reached out via your web sight and have not herd back. maybe there is a marketing director we could connect with?
@Ertactical tern on spelt checkers afore sayin stuff
The information ya'll bring is unique and experience backed. Literally no one else comes remotely close on TH-cam. Thank you!!!!
Boy o boy, I'd like to pick your brain. I bet you know many things. Things you wouldn't dare say on channel. 👍
Oh, something else to consider, maybe reach out to High Speed Ballistics to get high speed footage of where and how gasses escape from a typical AR and suppressor. It'd be nice to know if things like gas busting charging handles actually work, or if "enhanced bolts" like the LMT, blow off more gas from the ejection port.
that would be sick! Ill see about getting that footage! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
You can watch a video on hop's page about just that. He tests a bunch of charging handles.
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I care about back pressure and barrel length. I was trying unsuccessfully to find a YHM turbo 3. No gas in the face and very affordable. In the interim I ordered a radian charging handle that also helps reduce gas in the face.
do you find that this CH helps?
@@ErtacticalI am about to find out as I ordered it for my DD to make sure as it is designed to do that. It is the 556 designed to keep the gas in the face. Just in case it is a partial flow through back pressure.
@@ErtacticalI would recommend just getting an adjustable gas block if you are worried about gas with a can, charging handles do make a difference but it’s not very much
@@tristanrhodes2949 agreed, that’s one of the best ways to handle the increased gas. However, if you plan to run the rifle without a suppressor, then you’ll need to have some type of quick adjustment system. This is where the Riflespeed gas block really does big favors. We made a video on how to mitigate back pressure. And I present a few of my favorite ways. However, there are several ways, especially if you’re going to dedicate the suppressor to the rifle.
@@Ertactical I have the Odin works adjustable gas block and the adjustment screw can be reached from the end of my handguard I just used zip ties and tucked the Allen wrench in my handguard so I can adjust for suppressed/unsuppressed without disassembly
Awesome video, I pray this channel grows and y’all keep the amazing work going.
so kind! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I have a Banish 30 and 46. I really enjoy them on my bolt guns. Lite and quiet. just a thought.
Owns 50 cans but shoots at a public range…
This is why i laugh at guys who go around talking about their collection…
If you dont have your own private indoor range/outdoor range, on your own property, 20+ acres minimum, then you are just renting your guns from the gun range and get to store them at your home.
$50k in cans…public range…or in other words…why Guntube has ruined collecting…
All backwards…gun collecting should arise out of the ability to do your hobby on your own terms. Instead, its all marketing now and seeing how gullible people are to get them to keep buying, while they live in apartments, townhouses and single family homes with postage stamp yards…
So you have guys whose 900sqft house is lined wall to wall with cheap $600 pistols and cheapest ar variants, psa…and their “collection”
50 cans and he cant even shoot them without a range safety officer scolding him because he fired two rounds in succession
Get a new hobby big dog…
Ha, ok Ill get in to knitting, thats a nice quiet hobby. thank you for your positive feed back and support! =)
I’m highly interested in the Dead Air Nomad L since I want the most suppression possible. I’m tending to the Ti version since it’s going on a hunting rifle but also curious if the sound difference between steel and Titanium is noticeable? Any chance you can shoot and compare them to each other side by side?
i do not hear a dif at all but the there some BBL l restrictions on the Ti.. other than that the TI is the way to go for sure!
You’ve trained with a lot of cans wonder how you feel about the griffin armament dul lok 5
We have some Griffin cans on the way, we'll mix them into our testing very soon!
Awe was just wondering my dul lok 5 is at my ffl just waiting on my back round to get done
I love watching new guntubers explode despite the algo. Stay humble and keep on keeping on, looking forward to the next test!
thank you, so kind! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Have several 30 cal cans and the ventum has become my favorite to shoot even on shorter 556 platforms. Sounds great (especially to the shooter outdoors), back pressure/gas to the face is almost nothing (gas is minimal even on guns like the x95 where it’s a real issue), and sparking largely goes away after a few hundred rounds (hux is pretty open about that due to the manufacturing process). Another solid video Sir!
Agreed, the Ventum is a good low back pressure can. Thanks for watching 🍻
I'm up to I think 11 cans now?
- Dead Air Wolverine x2
- Spike's Tactical MRS-2 x1
- SilencerCo Hybrid 46 x1
- SilencerCo Omega 300 x3 (#3 being the BOGO from last year, still hasn't even gotten to the shop)
- SilencerCo Velos 5.56 x1
- SilencerCo Saker 5.56 x1
- SilencerCo Sparrow-Ti x1
- SilencerCo Octane 9 x1
Wolverines for the AK's, love the platform but I need to get one more because I own four AK's and of course between them there's 3 different thread pitches -- M24x1.5 RH: PSA AK-105, M14x1 LH: PSA GF5 & Polish Tantal, M26.5x1.5 LH: Zastava M92. Need to get a third so I don't have to ever change mounts out. The Tantal isn't compatible with any Dead AIr collars without chopping the barrel down to NFA lengths, of course the Polish just have to be weird about it. Thankfully I was able to get ahold of Lantac's AK-ASR variant of their Drakon muzzle brake for use with the SiCo cans.
The ST suppressor was my first NFA purchase along with the Compressor rifle it came with. Got that bad boy all the way back in 2012, early adopter of 300 Blackout here.
Hybrid was my first multi-use can, got it so I could put it on basically anything below a 50. Have used it on probably 7 or 8 different calibers at this point up to my 45 LC Henry.
The Omega 300's are for 300 Blackout and 308 rifles and also for the Tantal mentioned earlier. For the Tantal I decided to play it safe since even though I have a washer on there to keep the muzzle device pretty rock solid it still has a little bit of wiggle to it. AK's gonna AK.
The Velos has been my favorite can since I got it. Run it on every 5.56 (and 5.7) rifle I can from a 10.5" up to 20". Need to get another, will probably go with the K model next.
The Saker I got because I needed a 5.56 can and to get me into the BOGO money zone for the Omega 300 last year. Not a bad can just heavily outclassed by the Velos, although it is considerably lighter.
Sparrow TI I got for 5.7 & 22. Can't even tell it's there it's so lightweight.
- Octane 9 was from the BOGO two years ago, it's a permanent fixture on my MPX now.
Definitely a good collection you're growing there. Yeah, the Velos was definitely impressive during our backpressure test and we look forward to putting more rounds through it. Thanks for watching 🍻
@@SilencerSyndicate Thanks! I might take a look at the Ventum as well. Like you mention in your videos, forcing proprietary mounts/muzzle devices isn't something I'm a fan of which is why I've gravitated so heavily toward the hub size cans. Which incidentally isn't even something I knew about when I bought the Hybrid as my first multi-rifle can. I just wanted a 45 cal can with good reviews and I liked the way it looked. Glad my somewhat ignorant past self accidentally made a great decision to get into the hub size & ASR ecosystem. Since the Ventum is hub size and I happen to have a spare Bravo ASR mount laying around from my Hybrid now being parked on either my 338 or 45 LC it's in serious contention with the Velos K for my next purchase.
solid collection! Thank you for your positive feed back and support.
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Here to vouch for the Ventum, excellent can, extremely versatile
Yeah so versatile you can use it as a sparkler.
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I love the concept of removable core. It I super heavy for what it is since it’s titanium. Sound and flash suppression are underwhelming though
@@jccarp2the core is titanium but the rest of the can is steel that’s why it’s heavier. I have several 30 cal cans including the ventum and personally I think it sounds great to the shooter and the “sparking” gets way better after higher round counts.
Great vid and info! I'm sorry to even say this but bro, get that little bit of spit off your lip! It was fucking with me the entire vid.
hahah sorry didn't even know haha thank you for your positive feed back and support! =)
changing the tone is a big difference. 556 is not quiet... and the gas in the face sucks
my oss is beast, they switched named and changed the model while i was waiting
Thank you for the kind words and support!
If you guys are after educating prospective suppressor buyers, I'd hope you guys would incorporate comparing your experiences with the test results and analysis of PewScience. That way you aren't completely reliant on your subjective opinions on each suppressor, you can actually compare and/or validate your experience with concrete, accurate suppressor testing data, that is free to the public
Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
wonder how a wider frame with baffles and filaments of some sort would work or the addition of little hole/holes placed in specific baffle chambers would affect the gas escaping?
IDK,, i enjoy the user perspective but i give in to not knowing the engineering side of cans. but I am hungry to learn more =)
Need some griffin cans in the mix
We have reached out to them 3 times now. we will keep trying! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Griffin makes top notch quality cans.
@@OOOOOO12345 can’t wait to try em
Can you put the Griffin taper mount adapter on the Ventum? I've got multiple taper mounts but it isn't listed on the Ventum supported list.
How do these compare to Silencer Central’s Banish 30? Anyone out there have an opinion on Banish suppressors?
great Q, we don't currently have one but are chatting with them now about getting some. stayed tuned
My favorite is the CGS Hyperion and the Hyperion K. I run adjustable gas blocks so im not woried about back pressure as much.
Oh yea with adjustable gas blocks it really becomes more of a non problem for sure. Love the hyperion.
Hey man.. Whats you recommendation for my .416 Stroker (its a 408 Cheytac necked up to a 416 and Ackley Improved...at 2975 bfps with n500grain Cutting Edge Bullet.) Ive been shooting my SilencerCo Omega 30 Cal and my SilencerCo Hybrid 45 cal for a few years on my smaller Bore Rifles.
I like the Huxwrx best because of no back pressure. .Great Video..Thanks Im now a Subscriber
thanks for supporting our channel, maybe we could have a conversation. suppressor recommendation is not a dictation is a conversation.
Try out the wb or odb cat suppressors and review them please
We've reached out to them, we'll see if they send some for testing. Thanks for watching 🍻
we don't have one but are reaching out to them currently. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Rob, I have the nomad L , how would that stock up against B&T’s new SBRS762 on a mark 18 ,
I have their SBRS556 and love it thanks to you . Just wondering if the 762 is worth buying thanks.
good Q... its stupid quiet but crazy BP... the SRBS is all around amazing IMO. I like the 556 on the 556 and not the 762 on the 556. we have done some testing on that and plan to do much more.
@@Ertactical thanks for replying. I think I’m gonna pass on their 762. It’s pretty hard for anything out there to beat the nomad L ,
Keep up the good work, and I’m really enjoying your channel .
If sound reduction is the purpose of a suppressor, then what's the point of a noisy flow through suppressor?
Flow through suppressors don't inhibit the performance/function of a rifle the way high back pressure cans do. Low back pressure cans might not be as quiet, but they cause far fewer issues and typically don't require mitigation such as adjustable gas blocks or different buffers or springs to get them dialed in. Thanks for watching!
Getting a dead air .. and have a banish 45 coming.. I hope I don't have buyer's remorse with the banish.
I have had only a little testing with the banish and i was not too impressed. Id love to do more testing other stuff but very HIGH back pressure. thank you for your support!
Waiting on my first now (Omega 300). What do you think about it for a first can
its a well rounded can but its quickly becoming dated. Solid start point tho! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I’m currently saving for the ventum 762, but I’m not sure what hub device I want to go with. I’m leaning towards the Griffin Gate Lok because my rifles already have a compatible birdcage on them.
we will be doing a mounting option vid soon. lots to know! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
As a guy who's broken more than his share of cam pins and bolt lugs above and below extractor I'd be more into the flow threw low back presure can. I don't run subsonics in larger than 22lr & 9mm I want 2100fps out of my 300blk and 3K out of my 5.56 becouse rifle velocity kills. I also hate cleaning and want more shooting not gun stops up looking like a chimney at 300 rounds
well said and thank you for sharing! Thank you for the kind words and support!
wonder how a wider frame with baffles and filaments of some sort would work or the addition of little hole/holes placed in specific baffle chambers would affect the gas escaping? what causes and decreases back pressure?
Rob, can you also do an over view of how you mount your suppressors and what your preferred mounting system is and why. Thank you for the great content.
thanks! yes we will film that soon! its super imported and subjective. But i will def give my thoughts on it soon. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Yes to the overview of mounting systems
@@JAM4MORE sold! 😊🙌🏻
I've had 6 years experience in building Form 1 suppressors. You do NOT need exotic metals like Titanium or Iconel for a suppressor. Those metals are rated for FULL AUTO.
How many of the 2.66 Million (2021) registered suppressors are on machine guns? Very few.
Carbon steel and Stainless Steel will do just fine for the hunter or for target practice that the average person would use it for.
Don't waste your money, build your own for $300 or less depending on the caliber, not including the $200 Tax Stamp..
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I’ve been wanting to get a suppressor for my ruger precision308 any recommendations?
we are testing a new batch of cans and are very impressed. If you are cool with letting us test a little more we will release some new favs given the 30 some more cans we have now tested.
@@Ertactical awesome. Ty sir
I’m looking for a dedicated suppressor for a Q mini fix in 300 Blackout. I think you just sold me on the Nomad L.
Thank you for the kind words and support!
I want a Hux for a permanent mount on my home defense AR so I'm thinking the Hux 556k should be best for me. I'll never be swapping between different platforms.
We’re going to film a video very soon on exactly this topic. Stay tuned for more.
What BCG are u running? ( In video)
bootleg 4 position BCG
Banish speed k
We should hopefully be able to test the Speek K soon. If you haven't already, checkout the interview we did with Silencer Central at CANCON: th-cam.com/video/m8342z5Fh_s/w-d-xo.html
I just discovered and subscribed to your channel. Great video. Question: Have you tested KGM Technologies R30?
Shit, already have 2/3
That's a good start 🙌
you have done well! more to follow as some of the new tests are revealing some new favs! stay tuned.. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
SilencerCo Velos and CAT WB are my picks
Def +1 on cat wb. Got to try one irl and now backordered one to replace my rc2 with.
Waiting for the CAT ODB 718 to come back in stock.
The velos 7.62 is in stock but idk anymore if I can justify 2x price of something like the enticer
Where is the velos in stock?
@@dissgustingwhere is the velos in stock?
cool beans (just subscribed and 'rang the bell'). :-)
Thank you, much appreciated 🍻
I guess you guys don't have much of the top European brand over there, we don't have many of those here. All other gun products are rather global.
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would love to see the cobalt scrambler, CAT WB and flow 556 Ti
we have the flow K, I don't think we will be doing more HUX cans, we do want CATS but they have sent nothing
I Have the Otter creek Polo 30 on my 11.5 ...absolutely love it
great can. NO LONGER my Fav tho.
@@Ertactical what is your favorite
Over 10k on stamps 😮
please don't do that math, don't you put that evil on me ricky bobby.. thank you! much more to come! please continue to help us grow the channel with you likes comments and please share with your friends!
@@Ertactical lmao sorry man! 😂😂 it was just an intrusive thought after you said how many cans you had. Owning two…400 is too much for me to pay. But over 50?! 😮
@@hennysworld2382 totally bro! One day when we make cans like guns they’ll pay me all that $ back and I’ll buy a boat 🤣
@@Ertactical lmaooo 😂😂 “boating accident” 🤨 🤷🏻♂️ 😂
The best I can do is a short video from 2017 shortly after getting my Tax Stamp for the Form 1 30 Caliber suppressor test firing.
My 300BLK rifle has a pistol length gas system so it cycles on any ammo. Just click my name.
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Would you suggest the polonium k for a short 300 blk build? I'm looking for something short & quiet, low back pressure, light weight. In that Order. I know youbsaid it has high back pressure but I'm not sure if I can find one suppressor with everything I'm looking for.
Good Q, we will be doing some vids on 300 blk soon
Polonium K won’t work for 300blk. You’d need the Polonium 30.
@@kLIMA4 thank you!
Why the ventum over the flow 762?
for the HUB, I like using the mounting of my choice. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
who makes the MLOK part that you have your Surefire X400 attached to? THANKS!!!!
magpul dove tail MLOC to rail.
Rob, question for you. Are there any 2 point suppressors on the commercial market? Reason I ask, is that I have had, what I consider, decent sound suppression, manageable backpressure, and a shorter package on a 16" platform. Form 1. Tweety
Flow through = flamethrower
yes in the HUX but no in many new models
Lets all get on the same page and make suppressors "common use"!!!
YES!!! I think it will happen and SOON! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
GSL????
I’m loving your videos. Not a fan of the third person though.
hahah it was for a cause.. thank you for your support!
New to ARs, but can someone out there confirm if he is shooting a DD upper (like 11.5”?) AR pistol in most of these shots? Thanks!
Every gas operated rifle I shoot has an adjustable gas block, so i don’t really care about back pressure. I care about how quiet the silencer is and it being lightweight. Resilient Jolene is a heavyweight sleeper in the silencer universe. Its sound suppression is up there with the OCL hydrogen L, the Hyperion and the nomad L. It’s cheaper than those too.
solid intel, i have not herd of them! Ill reach out and see if we can do some testing! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I'm a suppressor enjoyer
me too =) Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Highly recommend CATs ODB and WB. They set the new standard.
I’m waiting on my odb 718. Still haven’t purchased the wb yet. Can find one in stock
keep hearing this! we have reached out to them but have not herd back yet.. we will keep trying, Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Thanks for the great content. Was never really interested in a suppressor until most recently when the approval timeline by the ATF has been significantly reduced. For those of us that have an AK 47 as well as an AR 15, which suppressor would you recommend that can do double duty? I would also like to see how issues with concentricity can be resolved on an AK rifle. How to determine if you even have an issue? I believe that would make a great video content.
great call! we will keep the vids coming. Thank you for your feed back and positive comments.
@@Ertactical I just did a lot research looking for a M14x1 LH Muzzle device for a ASR connection and the only thing that came was the Lantac Dragon 7.62 M14x1 Muzzle device. It's not available anywhere. Looks like the ASR mounting solution is not for me unless I get the barrel re-threaded to 5/8x 24.
Dang I need to bump my suppressor numbers up!!
rookie numbers! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Great video. The regular polonium 5.56 is rated down to a 10.3 barrel per their site. Maybe back pressure is an issue. I compared it to an old huntertown arms kestrel and besides weight savings , the sound was virtually identical. In other words , the polonium is a nice can, i was personally expecting a sound difference on a 11.5” when comparing it to that older can but realistically its about the same.
I spoke with the owner on this and he said no BBL restrictions on both of them on 556. thank you for your support!
@@Ertactical interesting, i hope they can update the website then. Thanks!
direct thread master race reporting in
hahaha especially if you can marry them to one rifle. Thank you for the kind words and support!
I like it! I subscribed!
I would probably lean toward the Dead Air Nomad L, because the whole reason, for my getting a suppressor is to be super quiet. And we all want the most sound suppression possible. Plus, I don't want the expense of multiple cans & tax stamps! And the universal mounting system is a great PRO in my book.
totally agreed!
Another great video. I would like to see a test of SilercerCo Hybrid 46M on different caliber guns from 45 ACP down to .223. Thanks.
Thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated!
This is one of those times where math ain't mathing. 7.5+8.4=16 😉
need to switch to plan b mounts asr kinda dookie
we will be doing a vid on mounting options soon! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
@@Ertactical ill definitely tune in, asr isnt really dookie lmao but tbh dont have experience with the asr mount my self personally but have read and seen many calling it antiquated. Although, the plan b style mounts have never came loose on me and the fact the so many muzzle device options are out there from so many manufactures to me makes it the best, also its much cheaper as most muzzle breaks are between 50-100 and mounts all sit right around 100 and in many different tube pitches as well. Not to mention the huge weight savings.
I want the Ventum bad. I saw one review that show a lot of the titanium sparks while shooting. Not a fan of that. Can anyone else comment on your experience with that?
The ventum has a 500 rd break in. Iv'e got about 1,500 rd through mine and it doesn't spark much. An impressive suppressor, though. Glad I got one so early.
yes! we will be filming a low light vid soon on just this topic, stay tubed! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I’m interested in all three of these are next on my list to get
Why isn't AB Suppressor on the list? All the testing they demonstrate on their web site seems to indicate they are quieter than their competitors in many cases.
What’s the “best” .556 suppressor for a left handed shooter using a righty rifle? Would assume a huxworks to keep back pressure and gas out of the face.
check out the VELOS 556 and 556K or the B&T SRBS cans
@@Ertactical thanks allot! Would a 12.5” make a big difference?
@@hotwater8473 you'll love it
@@Ertacticalventum or srbs if you could only choose one of the two, my main concern is flash mitigation but it would also be on a non adjustable gas block so that makes me lean towards the hux
Thanks so much for the priceless info, I forget what's the thread pitch common for most muzzle devices and plug and play suppressors???
thanks for the positive feed back.. on 556 1/2x28 and on 308 5/8x24 and on HUB can mounts, 1.375x24 (also expressed as 1 3/8x24) TPI
I loved C Thomas Howell in Red Dawn. WOLVERINES!
great movie!
Riflespeed gas adjuster could make the smallest manageable
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I do have one 762 and one 556 ventum on order. they both are papered at atf so just waiting on the atf.
I have the 762 not the 556.. i have seen them come out but i am happy with the 762.. if they offer me the 556 ill take it but i don't think ill be buying one.
Would love to see you do a comparison of the Ventum 762 to the SiCo Velos LBP 7.62.
that would be a great vid!! good call! we just finished filming a comparison of ALL the reduced BP cans and we found a new winner! stay tuned! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I have two Form 1 Suppressors I built 5 and 6 years ago. Both are Hollywood quiet with subsonic ammo.
I would post my design for a multi caliber suppressor (only difference is the diameter of the center bore), but youtube will not let me link to onedrive or google photos.
They delete any comment that links to my files.
yeah gotta be careful with this new world where we don't have a 1st Amendment. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Rob, any opinion on the Cobalt Kinetics Scrambler? Backpressure?
Have you had a chance to use/review either of the Wilson offerings, the Quell and the Whisper?
No!! I didn’t even know they made cans! THANK YOU! I’ll reach out to them
@@Ertactical oh wow, I'm shocked with all of the suppressors you own that you weren't aware!
Excited to see some content once you've gotten your hands on either or both 🤣
What do you think about the Banish 30?
I don't have one, I have clients that do and we did some light testing. Not a huge fan, thank you for your positive feed back and support =)
I love this, I have the Ventum 762 waiting for approval.
you'll love it! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Preach Brother!! Love my Nomad L and Ventum 762... Dont have the Otter because of the back pressure issue, but if I did want a K can, Id prob lean towards the Sandman K... But the K's just dont appeal to me...
Just be aware, the Sandman K is LOUD. The OCL Polonium K is much more quiet, surprisingly quiet for a K can.
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@@AncientGloom good to know!! Thank you!!
Think I would go with the Huxwrx. Thx
Do you think the cgs six is a solid can for an 11.5 556
IDK, i don't have one but i have reached out to them.. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
How would you rank the SiCo Velos compared to the Ventum? Just picked up a Velos, but thinking of getting the Ventum as well if it is worth it. . .
Great question! we just finished filming that vid! it will post in the next few days! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Agree an the Sandman L being awesome. Griffin Armament SPR reflex suppressor is my favorite on the 5.56 SBR. You should check out the Witt Machine Cannooter Valve. It's a tiny suppressors that worked well with my Tavor. (And the only Witt Machine suppressor we tried that didn't suck)
good intel, Ill look into em. thank you for your positive feed back and support =)
Would like to know the list price of each can
Knights Armament 556 QDC/CRS-PRT as I have four now. Built like a tank. Also, I still have 5 different HUXWRX. One Odessa-9 and one Spectre-9. I love the HUXWRX but the new KAC is crazy.
good info, i don't have any KA cans but ill reach out to them. thank you
Wow I thought my 25 were a lot suppressors
you have a problem like i do hahah we are at 63 now. Thank you for the kind words and support!
@@Ertactical well see you make money off of yours on your page. I guess me I’m just a collector that is addicted. I just put me an armory craft compensator on DA/SA226 Legion. Today lol but I have been on those PDW lately the bravo by strike industries I had to get me one of these for my P3 20 legion and then put a suppressor on that you know how it goes.
@@dannypierce1426 we do not make $. Our channel is not monetized and we do not push anyone’s product nor do we advertise. We are simply sharing our experiences. This channel has cost us lots of money. One day we hope it will make money. But that day is not today.
CGS Hyperion gives the Nomad L a run for its money. Great videos man really digging your channel
solid intel! ill reach out to them. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
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I think that the versatility of suppressor mounts is way bigger for you with the number of cans that you have versus the average person. If you talk to someone that is just going to get one or two suppressors I dont see it being a big deal to throw a HuxWrx muzzle device on the gun, definitely not as much as you like to say that it is.
very true, this is what you need to have a conversation before buying, gotta know what your family size is and needs before recommending a car to them. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I’m still trying to decide on a suppressor for a 6.5 CM gas gun (LMT) down to 2 options the DA Nomad L or Griffin PSR 7 (like the OTB design) The PSR is supposed to be reduced BP can just not too many videos on that on. Thinking with a EBrake it could lower the pressure a bit……. Decisions Decisions lol
I wish I could help but i have no hands on time with Griffen cans. Ill reach out to them to see if i can get some! Glad you are enjoying the channel! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I'm intrigued, not sure if I'd be going for any of these specifically but I must admit the polonium k did kinda pique my interest.
Its a great can! got many more we are currently testing and they look good! I might change my top 3 soon.. we shall see. Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
Have you tried spectre cat yet?
is it from CAT? and its called the specter or is that a manufacture i don't know about? learn me!
Algorithm support. Thanks for the information.
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He is the best. Devil is in the details and Rob knows the detail stuff that we can't know until after we buy the stuff
Love ya bro! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!
I've thought about the Hux and still do. I'm glad I watched the back pressure video, I was set to buy an AAC as my first...stopped me, thank you.
Glad we could help! Thank you for your support and positive feed back!