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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Finally got some time to yank out the 5.0 and inspect it for issues so we can plan for the future build. It went about as expected; what do we do now??
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Trust your soul! Keep it ford!
Just take it to the machine shop and do a basic ring and bearing job on it. Hone it with a torque plate and polish the crank. Probably get out way less than $1000 for a bottom end refresh.
Then score you some used heads on Market place or worst case, some Explorer GT40 heads from the JY.
You can get the AFR 185 Enforcer heads for $1200 for the pair… Slap them on with a good cam and make some power.
Looking at those options currently
Diff fluid smell is haunting! Great vids
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Haha thank you
Art , looks like your keeping the local scraper busy with junk . Don't forget your local auto part rebuilder buyer . Will keep you in sodas. I enjoy watching.
DO NOT LS SWAP!!!
We didnt even torque plate our 302. Added extra thousandth and a half piston clearence ( .0015 ) and used arp headstuds. It lived at 6500+rpm happily. It was meant to be budget and temporary. Ran so good buddies used/borrowed it, we always relied on it while the monster engine was getting upgrades/refresh, on and on. Just an fyi, cast rings (not moly) are pretty darn forgiving. Just give her some miles of calm driving break-in, if you don't bore it.
Be careful, that LS will put itself in that front of that car while you're not looking. you know what to do... Find something Blue Oval , you'll be happier. That LS will just have to wait. Earl wants a Blue Oval brother. (find another motor home?😅)
😂😂 nope never again with the motorhome
I could care less what people put in what. I'm a chevy guy, and I'm gonna put a big block Ford in my chevy dually. I just don't want to watch another LS video.
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Another great video. I lost compression in two cylinders as well back in 2022. I ended up buying a replacement engine and did all new motor mounts, new water pump and new rear main seal. It has been running great and just mounted it all up against a new Tremec TKX. Please still resist the urge to LS swap. Thanks
The recipe: Healthy junk yard Roller motor 92-96 351 Windsor swap w/ gt40p heads/ B cam / single plane intake manifold/ brawler 750 carb / HEI distributor. 100% bulletproof also helps to have a good fuel pressure regulator 5-7 psi
Keep the factory pump in the tank and just run it to accessory relay?
Roller 351w was made 94-97. 1992 and 1993 were flat tappet blocks.
I agree at this point its definitely worth looking for something else with the condition of that motor.
Just subbed, great video man. Rah
Do or die! 🤙🤙
Keep the 5 L. From what I see you can build that block fairly easy. Mike, the cylinder walls to make sure the round cross hatch them if they’re OK have the crank either polished or turned 1010 by new pistons forged. When you take it apart, you’ll find your oil problem is more than likely seized oil rings. Could be valve guides in the heads, but nothing serious with that block. You’ll spend less money putting together that motor with the parts by new heads. Put a lumpy cam in it. New rockers, push rods and lifters if you put the LS in it you’re just going to bastardized the car and the value is going to be a lot less than what the well-built five L
Buy a Explorer or a 5.0 mustang short-block for like 300-500, or do what I did and build it right while ya can. That way you can always throw a turbo or Supercharger on it. I’d throw a 351w in it if it was me…
Sucks man. My son and i just rebuilt the 302 in my SSP last fall. If you go through with a rebuild or even start fresh with another donor SBF, im happy to be a resource for you. That notch has a lot of promise left in it.
Appreciate it! I'll keep you in mind!
I sent my block to the machine shop, had them hot tank the block and hydraflux it, new freeze plugs and oil galley plugs and they also installed the cam bearings for me. Motor was .030 over and needed a set of pistons because they were super cheap. $1400 bill wasn’t too bad at all. This stuff is expensive nowadays and I’m first to know that lol, 21 years old with ALOT of money into a 35 year old motor but hey I love SBF
Haha yeah, it's easy to go down the rabbit hole these days
Looks like the 2 non firing cylinders had clean areas on the edge of the piston.
Lack of lubrication, or the unburned fuel cleaning it from then not firing.
Id confirm Ignition all good too.
I'm leaning on ignition as well
You will be further ahead time and money wise if You just rebuild what You have it's a Fox body Mustang 🐎 not a chevstang , there's so much that You can do with what You have in front of You and keep it a true 🦊 🐎 that will be more desirable to the 🦊 body purest but it's Your car and it's Your choice as to what You want to do ⁉️ Best Wishes and Good Luck , Please keep Us updated on Your build and Thank You . 🇺🇸🇵🇷🦊👍
I would make it a 347 and have fun
Plz keep it 5.0, mostly cause I’m building mine and I love to see the SBF getting some love, stay warm in state 48
Haha no problem doing that
First i would like to say, I really enjoy watching your channel and can't believe you don't have more subscribers yet although I think that will change in the future. Secondly ls is way better just saying. I have a 86 foxbody that is the same color. Would love to see what it takes to swap it. Keep up the great work. Look forward to seeing the rest of this build no matter what way it goes
Thank you! I've seen several swapped with friends and it doesn't take much at all.
lol bro i have a 93 GT that im about to start doing a top end on. I just found your channel and i love it.
Hell yeah, welcome aboard! 🤙🤙
Eh, only good solution is $$$$ and like me, probably not a great option! I would polish crank, check bores at machine shop. New bearings on polished crank is ok, I’ve done it plenty of times. Check out my Buick grand national video, bearings were worse, machine shop polished crank and I’ve been stomping on it ever since with no issue at all. I don’t like cut cranks, I’ve always had problems once the crank is cut, thicker bearings don’t last imo…on something that is beat the crap out of it all the time. That mustang block looks like it could be saved easily, then do the heads and cam stuff new and start doing some valve floating burnouts for distance Lol
Haha, that does sound like a good plan
I enjoyed your video we've been there ourselves with the same decision with the ls sitting there in front of us , it makes it hard to do when you have blue blood running through your veins, good luck with whatever you decide to do
Haha, what'd you end up doing?
@VeteranIdiot we did what every mustang guy does we drained the ford blue blood out of our veins 😆 🤣 and put the ls engine in the green gangster 😉 we took the car out and tried it the car was fast but the motor blew up so then we put a fresh rebuilt ls back in and blew that up but the old rusty 302 is still running fine its in my coupe 😆 thanks for asking I hope this doesn't discourage you 👍
Haha not at all. I felt the same pain in my dirt track car.
Hey dude! I appreciate your vids man. From the title of your TH-cam channel i say from one military vet to another respect and gives me motivation to tackle projects on my 1988 lx 5.0 vert. I did the AOD to T-5 swap last summer now about to do the rear end rebuild and 355 gears. I am also gonna do a old school nostalgic gt40 set up on my car, but after watching this video and seeing what a old stock bottom end could look like I am hesitate hahah. My car only has 105,000 miles on the motor and seems to be in good health. Keep the content going!!! hopefully you get your old girl up and running again. Interested to see what the plan is for your build!!! respect from Maryland!
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Haha hell yeah man 🤙 Chances are your bottom end is good to go, this car was ABUSED heavily, like it owed Grandma Gotti money
@@VeteranIdiot 😆🙏👍💯hahaha I hear that brother!
Great video
Thanks!
As an Aussie I clearly am biased but if you can afford a Barra swap you'll be pleasantly surprised....
Those things fit in here?!
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Put that ls in there while you rebuild, bore and stroke that block or better yet bore and stroke a 351 to put in there. Take your time and do what's best for you. And of course have fun!!!
427 stroker!? I dig it! Haha
Definitely signs of oil starvation, most likely from the pan being smashed into the pickup. Watching this video gives me anxiety lol. I was a diehard ford guy and went through all this crap a few times. So glad i went ls, much nicer to work on! Not to mention they can handle tons of power. Absolute only downfall is everyone has one now, but for good reason.
Haha, yeah but they do have their own quirks
@VeteranIdiot mine have been flawless. So far I've made 1011hp on a stock Long block 5.3 with a cam and 34psi, been 5.3@138mph in the 1/8 and my Zephyr went 10.60s in the 1/4with a cam only 6.0, stock long block, even the truck intake lol. I have no complaints about them in the past 9 or so years I've been running them. I hate to sound like a fan boy but they flat out work and don't leak from every seal lol
Nice!
I'm a big fan of the LS, it's a great engine but like you, it would hurt my soul to put it in that Mustang. I'm also a fan of the small block Ford. It's a good motor when properly maintained. I think that block can still be saved by a good machine shop. That and some aluminum heads and a new cam. You'll have a really good motor.
For sure
There’s a saying my pappy would say boy if you want to be you better have deep pockets
😂 very true
I have a small blk chevy in FJ60. runs great.
I had a friend in high school that had a 350 in his two door FJ and it was TERRIFYING
Just send the block to a machine shop, have them check the crank, put new cam bearings in it and go from there. Honestly I have seen worse when tearing one apart. As long as the crank can be saved then the rest isn’t that big of a deal because you would replace all the bearings anyway as long as none of the bearings spun. Keep the LS out of your mind! Throw a cover over it so you can’t see it!
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Where did you get those headlights they look super clean
LMR
Ring and bearing it... carb, 600dbl pmp, Ebay HEI/Done. If you want it economical.... LS. I could tell you every part to buy, I have it down to a science...Lol
Very likely will go that route haha
I did a 306 stroker with mine f303 cam. Very pleased with my results if you want a mod motor find a 4v 4.6 lol dont ls it lol l.s stands for lazy shi# we Ford owners aint lazy
You know that hood will lay all the way back right? Put a blanket on the windshield and lay the hood back on it.
It doesn't with the raised cowl, unfortunately
If ur wanting a peppy cruiser keep it ford, if you have drag racing in mind possibly LS, id never go with a chevy in my 88, i just built my 1st engine, the factory stock block into a 331stroker and i might be seeing alot of what happened to ur engine, something isnt right with mine, i didn't wanna do the rockers because i didn't know what i was doing. Alot of utube but they are probably not adjusted right, i went all out on mine, trick flow 170 heads , systemax new upper and lower, new 75mm bbk throttle body, bbk 1-3/4 longtubes, new bbk 75 mm MAF calibrated to 24lb injectors new excell 24lb injectors and a ton of other stuff, got alot of dough in this motor but it aint right, if you do build another 302 make sure to use a reputable machine shop and do the whole block, i only had mine bored 30 over for the dss pistons in the scat crank kit, i opted not to do the line hone and the machine work to the lifter holes
That's a bummer man! I hope you get it all figured out!
Fight the urge to put that Superior engine in the oval car. Stay true to the blue. It will cost $1,200 to have the machine work done to that block to make it a 347. Go that root maybe . By the way I think if the exhaust valves were tight on those front two cylinders while it was running with the lifters pump up it could hold the exhaust open just enough. you would have dead holes. You wouldn’t see it on a compression test because theirs no oil pressure. Just a thought
Interesting, I hadn't considered that
Keep it Factory! All I have to say
Haha tryin!
Ok not all I have to say, it's a Mustang not a camaro or charger or whatever. Anyway just saying if you buy a Mustang make it or leave it a Mustang not Frankenstein it like every other "idiot" out there. It's your decision either way just sick of everyone destroying the classics with all the new technology. Old cars were fun to drive its an experience like none other ✌️
Great video i really enjoy laughing at you/with you. Keep it Ford all day everyday but on the other hand the LS is a Ford design that they sold to chevy so it kinda will stay a Ford if you drop it in.
Haha, thank you!
Let's be positive, statistically speaking it's gotta be harder to find a worst engine that this one !
Could also coyote swap it too or if you like pushrod engines then Godzilla swap it.
That cost too much $
Godzilla is not out of the question
Only expensive if you go to the wrong places for the parts.
@MrLocomechanic let's build a 600hp ls and a 600 anything else and see how much it cost and how easy
@@viperford6840 doesn’t matter how much it cost. You want quality you gotta pay for it. You want cheat crap go build a Chevy and then rebuild it after a week because it falls apart. Chevy is 💩
You really want to flip people out, put that inline 6 in there.
😂 the screaming 240!
Could you keep saying that the where is from the valve train being over tightened but yet the valve train on that year of 302 is non-adjustable so the pushrod length would have to be off
🤷🏻♂️ they were cranked all the way down and the pushrods were egged. I bet on the fact that it had way too much preload and maybe starved for oil.
Good post personal I would build what you got. You'll know what you have. PLEASE NO LS !! I was watching another tuber not to be named. He had gotten a 65 2 door galaxy 289 4 speed ( I think ) got it running and then put a L S in it. I've got to where if I watch his post ok or not. That's just me !
That is one of my dream cars 😞
I hope you can find a 351 roller motor. I own two 88 fox body. I would keep it Ford .
Me too, but they're hard to find for cheap
The only drawbacks are finding good 351 swap headers especially for an automatic transmission & hood clearance with a stock hood which can be cured with motor mounts and cross member spacers and the Will to complete Your project 🤔🤯
Luckily none of those factors affect me haha
First off I’d scrap the boat anchor ls and second I’d get an explorer/mountaineer 5.0 and go from there.
New to the channel. LS swap it. That's the smart thing to do.
It is, but it just hurts the soul to consider it. Welcome aboard!! 🤙🤙
Stroker kit.
What size tires are you running on the back?
American Racer G60's haha
I have a 302 for sale 500$ and have gt40 head and a cobra intake manifold
I subscribed just because I’m also a veteran and an idiot
😂 we gotta stick together
Put a 247 stroker crate engine in it and some prep and go racing or ls swap it !
Both of those options are 💲💲💲 haha
ment 347!
I figured haha
A nice 460 would look good in there.👍
It would, mostly because you wouldn't be able to see anything else 😂
You know Art, I'm just sitting here watching, it wouldn't take that much to get me out of this recliner and lend a hand. Kind of a long walk from Fairbanks tho, but hey..
Just sayin..
It would be appreciated, when should I expect you? 😂
Lets see, 4500 miles @ 10 miles per, that'd be about 900 days allowing a one day break in between each days hike..😅😂, you might be finished by then.. Have a great day..@VeteranIdiot
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Put a lq4 in it. You know you want to
Why not LQ9?
What part of AZ are you in?
Phoenix metro
I'd love for you to keep it Ford powered but if I had a LS sitting next it I don't know if I could resist.
Haha seriously, it's tempting
@@VeteranIdiot You're going to haver people pissed regardless. We"ll be watching either way
Haha hell yeah
You put that LS in that car and I will buy the car off of you to save the car
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If you decide to go budget i have rockers and pushrods i can give to you. Wouldn't be much to ship from Norcal
I might take you up on that!
@@VeteranIdiot I can dig and see what else I have. The Explorer roller cam but they aren’t that great.
Wat size is that good
The hood?
Sell the ls or by a vega to put the ls in.
How about a nova wagon?
Wagons are supposed to have a good weight transfer. I’m a Ford guy never cared for the GM stuff every nameplate had the same parts but each had a different price.
351 swap
Ronnie James Dio..... sing the whole song please? 🤣
😂 that's the only verse I know
Out the Ls in
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Art, build a Ford or buy a Ford please do not use the LS you’ll spend more money trying to adapt that correctly then you will with the Ford build.
Stop teasing us and do what needs to be done.
LS swap, TKX trans and watch TDF enjoy this thing
He'll still never drive it 😂
I like the car and the vision of the build, I’ve been there with my own. I just can’t watch because you are imitating the guy with a Canadian sounding accent on here. Just be yourself.
Wait a minute... There is more than one person on here with the same personality???? 😮 But in all seriousness, I've been like this my whole life. Not sure how to change that.
Just be True to Yourself !@@VeteranIdiot
Save your money and time go back to junkyard and grab you a late 90s 351w throw it in, you’ll thank me later!
Finding one is harder than it sounds haha
@@VeteranIdiot well maybe in your area I know here in Louisiana there dimea dozen! I’ve got a few myself just sitting here waiting for me to start building them for my foxes
Lucky!
If you had a pair you would buy a Camaro and put a Coyote in it.
I would have zero problem doing that 😂
Lack of oil
Pretty much what I was thinking
LS swap it…..its just a clapped out fox…its not like its a 1970 boss 302 mach 1
Whoa whoa whoa, you're gonna hurt it's battered feelings
No way you shouldn't rebuild that engine. Normal wear and not all that bad. Easy to get a reworked crank with fitted bearings, and cam didn't look that bad if you wanted to keep it. Otherwise, why so slow? Even at 2x speed video seemed long.
One of the cylinders ended up being severely gouged so it got rebuilt anyway.
are you trying to act like Derek vice grip garage?
Nope, been like this my whole life.
Build a 351 trust me I’m a doctor lol
Well that settles it then 😂
Yes just ls swap it if you have one.