Emax Tinyhawk Freestyle - review, binding, radio and Betaflight setup, flight footage
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In this video we are going to review the Emax Tinyhawk Freestyle - an amazing little toothpick style micro FPV drone. I'll go over the specs, and then I'll show you how to bind your drone to your radio, as well as take a look at the Betaflight configuration and finally head out for some flight tests with a few different battery setups.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Unboxing
1:29 - Specifications
3:31 - Weight
5:24 - Binding
7:32 - Additional radio setup
9:22 - Betaflight configuration
13:53 - Flying 2 x 1S 450mah
16:10 - Flying 1S 450mah
16:57 - More zipping around
20:31 - Conclusion
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
0:38 - Unboxing
1:29 - Specifications
3:31 - Weight
5:24 - Binding
7:32 - Additional radio setup
9:22 - Betaflight configuration
13:53 - Flying 2 x 1S 450mah
16:10 - Flying 1S 450mah
16:57 - More zipping around
20:31 - Conclusion
This is really the best review of this quad on TH-cam.
Take it from me. If you reading this, save your time and just watch this guys review.
Another comment just for the algorithm!
Great review!
This was truly an amazing production.
And English not being your native language; you speak it damn well and you have perfect mannerisms and little nuance of conversation you seem to understand so well that is so cool!!!
This was an AMAZING production. I just bought this and have been looking at a ton of reviews that are so much more about the presenter at their channel or “gang” or “club” or whatever!
This was all about the drone; that’s what I came for.
This really was a professional level production and you are super underrated.
You earned my sub.
Thank you for the detailed tips, I have my Tiny Hawk Freestyle flying! Now the learning curve! It is fun to learn something new!
Great to hear! Happy flying :)
Thank you a ton, you went over things others skipped and as a newb, I really appreciated that ^^
Thanks, that means a lot to me, I'm trying to tell the things I wish someone told me! Happy it helped.
Thank you for showing the entire process.
You're welcome :) I hope it was useful.
Thank you , one of the best reviews out there. Appreciated, my flying bloodbrother.
Wow, thanks so much! Happy flying :)
Excelent review! lovely commentary next to the actual flight test itself, well done brother!
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
love these videos where everything works PERFECT. Totally not the case.
Haha I know what you mean :D But sometimes, very rarely, it actually does. Most times there's something extra to figure out.
Subbed, very well spoken... great to the point review. I agree on all aspects. Love my th freestyles!!
Wow! Thanks so much! Really happy to hear you liked it!
Hello, good morning, does that same configuration in betaflight also work for tinyhawk 2 freestyle????? I thank you for the help because I'm going crazy, it keeps speeding up.
I have a commando 8 and when I go to enteral RF all i can select is multi for the mode and nothing else how do i get it to d8 mode?
Thanks for showing!
You're welcome :)
I've reviewed this bad bay! Awesome freestyle quad! 👍✔☕😊🍷
Awesome! I love how hassle free it is to just go and rip a pack when it comes down to micros in general :)
Cool vid! I just purchased one but am having some trouble with the RSSI. The connection drops to 0 seemingly way to often where I can't reliably fly 50+ feet away from the controller without the motors stopping (failsafe when the drone looses connection). I'm using a Taranis X9 Lite
Thanks! Unfortunately short range on those built in receivers is a thing and you won't be able to get very far out. You might want to consider upgrading to an XM+ receiver (lightweight, small, cheap, but full range).
The connection also depends on your surroundings among other factors and you will get better results in open areas, compared to more dense areas (like parks and buildings).
While many times I've had warnings about signal strength I've never dropped out of the sky because of connection loss. So if you haven't, I highly recommend setting up voice announced warnings on your radio, so that if you hear your connection is getting poor, you can simply turn around before it's too late. This works great for me. Otherwise you could also try to mess around with the antenna's positioning and you might get some slightly better results, but I wouldn't expect mirracles. Happy flying!
Can I control it with an E6 controller?
Does the copter have a acro mode
Can i set the Mw to 200 or just 25?
THANK YOU
You're welcome :)
I bought this Freestyle the other day. Can I fly it with just one 450mah 1s battery? Or does it always need 2? I’m new to drones so just trying to understand everything. Thank you
Congrats on grabbing it and happy flying! You absolutely can fly it on only 1 4S battery. Plug in your battery on one of the two battery connector slots and use the provided battery terminator plug on the other slot.
what is the maximum speed?
How come all the videos ive seen on this drone got good vtx range yet mine loosing vtx signal at about 3 meters,,is it some thing to do with the bands ?
Hmm could be, could be just running it on only 25mW and a lot of interference in the environment? Could be a bad vtx ultimately?
Very useful! But I can't bind TH II freestyle with my x9 lite with xjt module D8. Lights doesn't blink. Can you help me?
Hm, interesting, sure I can try to help you. I just got the TH II Freestyle myself and will perhaps try to release a review soon if there is anything note worthy. I will be binding to a X-Lite in D8 mode in my case though.
@@FPVtips I think its something wrong with software. Will try to downgrade all my firmware and bind again. I'm a beginner in FPV, so thank you for the video!
Hi, cool video thanks...
I know it's been a year, but last night I configured my emax and I tried a short flight indoor without noticing any issue. Today it won't arm. I tester anything I could Think of on Betaflight, even the motor... but when I unplug Betaflight, it won't arm...
Any idea?
Try to isolate the problem, go ever everything, including the smallest, silliest of things like double checking batteries and connections.
@@FPVtips thanks... yeah I try to check everything and then I saw a trottle warning in my goggles, the trottle mixer was not well set...
thanks again for your videos!!
Great Review......what would be vtx /reciever range on clear run (no trees etc)
In perfect conditions, say 20 - 30 meters off the ground on a clear field, you might get probably even 200-300 meters I'd assume (not 100% sure, double check it if you need exact values). But there usually are some obstacles, we do fly lower to the ground so I'd say in general up to 150-200 meters max. Also the SPI receiver is the limiting factor here.
@@FPVtips is the range any better than the og Tinyhawk of just the same
@@jackjohnson5024 I haven't tried the original Tinyhawk, but given this uses the same board, I would assume it's more or less the same. It's quite on par with many other SPI based receivers I've tried. Don't expect miracles, but good enough for a couple of hundred meters or so.
Where did you get that extra charging board? Looks good
It's similar to this one - bit.ly/1s-board . I like it as it shows battery voltages, allows for charging up to 6 and can accept an XT60 so you can charge your smaller batteries with a 4S or a 6S bigger battery. It does what it should well enough for me, there's certainly even fancier versions if you're into that.
hi did you have to install the D8 to your transmitter? thanks
Nope, I just have the D8, because this is an older version of the X-Lite, before FrSky changed to ACCESS and sacked D8.
Great video! Can i use every 5.8 Googles on the marked?
I don't see why not. As long as what you're using can receive the 5.8GHz signal from the quad's VTX, you're game :)
fpvtips
Great ! Thanks
Hi, good video, thank you..Question: Can you show/ tell me how to do Tilt setup..in BetaFlight or where ? Please..i want little bit more tilt than as it is now, to less..thank in advance
Thank you! Sure, you can loosen or remove the top plate and slide the camera at a bit higher angle back, onto the second notch on the top plate, that should work.
@@FPVtips thank you for reply..i mean the Drone is now on 25% Tilt, thats for beginners..i need to have the Tilt on 50%, so the Drone get faster..do u know how on Betaflight, or remote..how to do that, pls
Oh, I think by "Tilt" you probably mean the Angle limit? Go to the PID Tune tab and look for Angle Limit. You can adjust that per each mode you fly in - Angle mode, Horizon mode (Acro is not limited). This should do it. But I recommend starting to practice Acro mode and learning that. Will be hard at first, but very worth it! No limits there :D
@@FPVtips hi, oke i will, thank you for your reply..have a nice day & flights :)
@@MohAwad-mw2oz Thanks buddy and happy flying to you too :)
out of the box would you prefer this or the geprc phantom?
Out of the box, without joking, or selecting the cop out answer - both :D It's funny cause I enjoy them both and they are so similar but yet so different. If I reaaaally had to choose I'd take the tinyhawk but it's ridiculously close!
It was fast, but I think you’re running d8 internal on the xlite? May I ask how? Great video thank you!
Sure, I have the OG X-Lite and I don't have the new Access protocol which gets rid of D8. This is the FCC version of the firmware (if you're LBT that could be another reason why D8 is missing).
The complete details of how my radio is setup are here:
blog.georgi-yanev.com/fpv/set-up-taranis-x-lite-update-opentx/
FPVtips Many thanks!, I have the xlite pro with Access. Thank you for the responses and the link to your radio setup!
@@michael3573 Sure, happy to help ;)
Hi, I just brought a Tinyhawk2 and my son in Bataflight after doing a Backup, perform a reset, and even after a restore the drone is like dead no more everything, do you have any idea what can I do to put it back to work? I will really appreciate it. Thanks
If for whatever reason it may seem the configuration is completely bricked, I would try to identify (from the manufacturer's site perhaps) what version of Betaflight it comes with stock. You want to flash that with the full chip erase option selected. Then, try to find a dump files of the full config - again the manufacturer's site could be the place to look at. At that point you should be in a stable state again. If that fails too, I'd suggest asking in the Facebook group as there is a solid chance someone might have a similar issue.
@@FPVtips Thanks
would it bee possible to do three 1s batteries ?
I don't remember the voltage specs for the Flight controller and ESC's from the top of my head, but definitely check those first. I have a feeling that this quad won't be able to take 3S voltage. If it would work without burning the board, next thing you have to think about is motor KV, the more you go higher in battery cells, the lower the KV of the motor you wanna go (with some caveats).
Do know if the freestyle can be used with the E6 transmitter? (It comes with the Emax ez pilot) I can’t get it to bind. Thanks.
I think it *should* be able to bind to that transmitter. Not sure of the exact steps as I don't own an E6, but it's a D8 transmitter and the Freestyle comes with a D8 built in FrSky receiver, so you should be able to get it to work, I'd assume. Let me know if you do, I'm curious.
@@FPVtips yes you can , just set mine up.
yes it does bind, just set mine up.
Awesome, good to know! Thanks for sharing!
For my first fpv quad, this or the eachine wizard? Pls help
I started with the Wizard, but there weren't such nice toothpicks back then. I would easily recommend something like the Tinyhawk Freestyle though, because it's a ton safer, you are gonna break a lot less stuff in crashes and you will still get 90% of the experience of flying a drone. I still recommend you do 5 inch drones eventually but starting like this is VERY viable. Not to mention if you buy this, you only need to buy some batteries. If you buy the wizard, you will need batteries, but also to change the props and to consider changing the camera as soon as possible.
FPVtips oke thanks for the advice!!
Hi great video but you forgot about the CLI dump before you bind the transmitter as mine wouldn't bind as come from Emax they told me to download their CLI first then go to betaflight and copy onto tinyhawk fb!
Indeed, that's such a good point! In general everyone should save the stock CLI dump before doing any changes in Betaflight. I guess the reason why I don't bother is that I assume I can find the files online or even if I have an issue, I'll worst case scenario start from a clean flash version and go from there. It's not the end of the world, but indeed, takes 5 seconds to save your config and saves you hours or research and setup. Thanks for pointing that out :)
Did yours come with the CLI already done or did you do it yourself also I didn't get the xt30 connector with mine?
@@cyclops-fpv Yep, mine came in completely setup, the only thing I did was to bind and to add switches in the Modes tab. I did get mine around September from Banggood and that's how it shipped at the time. If you do need an XT30 you could pick up one from there probably for very cheap. I personally won't bother as I love reusing those old batteries, I have plenty of them and the quad flies so well on them!
OK thanks its just I thought the xt30 won't sag the currant from the batteries as much. Mine wont bind to the Emax E6 controller as they say i need the cli dump for it to work?
In general you're right, but honestly I have not experienced any voltage sag with the stock batteries or the GNB 450mah I'm using. I've used D8 to bind to my Taranis X-Lite, so sadly no experience with Emax's custom controller, but if it comes from them, it is probably covered well in the manual / their site?
hey im really sorry to bother but anyone please im stuck .I have bound my freestyle to my jumper t8sg set up switches and reversed a couple channels,when i fly alittle and land it acts like it wants to throttle up on its own or like the throttle is sticking.could it be my end points lowest end throttle right now is 1100 actually i think all my sticks lowest point is 1100.should i change that to 1000.or could there be another reason.im still kinda a noob and no where to turn.
You could. I think I keep mine as low as 1010 up to 1050. For this to be efficient though, you need to make sure that your top and bottom transmitted values are correct and fixed at 1000 and 2000 respectively. You can fine tune those on your radio's outputs screen or you can use a betaflight command in the CLI to set them.
@@FPVtips hey thank you I worked on the end points last night ,I got the throttle down to 1003 and high end to 1996 wierd thing is now when I got to fly it's at - 125 it doesn't bother drone and I now have better control and it doesn't retry to spin up.thank you again so very much
I can't find a bind button on my tiny quad board , havn't flown it yet ??
I feel your pain. It should be under the board right where the motor plug is for your front right motor.
Should'a gone to Specsavers ! found it with magnifying glass LoL cheers anyway now for some spectacles .
What radio can I use for this
Most any radio would do just fine, provided it can bind to the receiver of the version you chose. I've been using happily a Taranis X-Lite, but ofc there are tons of options out there.
how do you film throo the goggles?
I've heard of methods using go pro's. I've never filmed thru the goggles myself, what you see is DVR - recording from the goggles, but not filmed with an external camera.
What propeller goes where?
That would depend if you're setup in props in or props out mode, but in general once you get the hang of it, it's quite straight forward. I've written about it in more detail here: blog.georgi-yanev.com/fpv/holybro-kopis2-hdv-with-dji-digital-fpv/#dji-setup (scroll down to the part where we start talking about how to put on the props)>. I hope that helps and let me know if you have any issues.
I have been flying my EMAX Tinyhawk Freestyle for quite some time. I like the way it handles, how it flies, and the good fly times; I consistently get over 8 minutes on 2 GNB 600 mAh batteries. This is a very good "short" range quad. Both the built in Rx and the 25w Vtx limit the range. In my experience, the Rx range is about half that of an FrSky XM+ receiver. Within the range, it flies good. On the down side, the frame is a little weak. I don't fly hard yet still fractured one of the arm struts. I have repaired it and still flying, but just know it is a weak point. Fortunately, you can get all of the parts including frame. Additionally, you can get an RX/Vtx sled to upgrade the receiver and vtx. I get these parts from PyroDrone pyrodrone.com/
Nice, I should give higher mah batteries a go too, thanks for sharing. I've been thinking about upgrading to xm+ but as you mentioned the vtx is also a limiting factor and upgrading further might mean motor change as well.
To be fair, as you said, for a short range quad, this is an awesome little fellow, so I just stick to that with it. I do enjoy having HD video though and longer range for some parks, but I'll be reviewing the GEPRC Skip3 HD soon for that, very excited!
@@FPVtips I believe the motors will hand the upgrade. Although you can upgrade without it, PyroDrone sells an Rx/Vtx sled for just such an upgrade. It mates directly to the FC and provides easier hookup of the additional boards. There are also videos on how to connect without the sled, but I believe that to be more challenging. Since I have other quads, I will likely just keep my TH Freestyle for short range proximity and acro flights. I do, however, have all of the replacement parts (complete quad unassembled) plus the sled. Have fun. Stay Safe.
I cant get mine to show my reciever is connected in the BF tab..dosnt show movement in that tab.
You might have to plug in the battery, sometimes the USB is not enough to power the receiver.
@@FPVtips I fixed that problem, But I can not get the tiny hawk to arm..It did arm a few times, but it was delayed.."WEIRD" ..Another words I flipped the arm switch and then 5 seconds later it armed, It did this a couple of time..I have the latest firmware and im binding to a taranis X7S TX..
@@fastfreddy7111 Wow, that's strange for sure. I assume your radio is running the new ACCESS protocol? Did you bind in D16 mode? In Betaflight is the Tinyhawk Freestyle set up correctly for D16 in the drop down next to the one where you select SPI receiver?
@@FPVtips Yes to all your questions, I did notice you left your setting on the Frsky D setting I have mine on the Frsky X..Could this make the difference?
@@fastfreddy7111 I left mine on Frsky_D cause I have the older Taranis X-Lite without the ACCESS protocol, and as such D8 mode is fully supported. Technically, Frsky_X setting should be for D16, which is what you should use if you have the newer protocol. But I mean, if all else fails, give this a shot too. Good luck, mate!
I see your eh connected straight to bf. mine didn’t. I click “connect” and nothing happens
You might have to select the correct COM port in some cases. Or use the ImpulseRC driver fixer if you have connectivity issues.
FPVtips thank you for the reply, had to activate the port, found a video from project blue falcon that helped
Mine just won't bind no matter what
I need an controller
You're in luck as there are a lot of good options out there. Depending on your use case and the quads you fly, anything from Taranis Q X7, Taranis X-Lite, Radio Master or a TBS Tango. Do some more research first.
i just got a tiny hawk too and made my first flight video check it out on my channel its like a reality show
Awesome! Congrats man.
My quad will not arm even with trying different switches through beta flight, any way to troubleshoot?
Look in your goggles if Betaflight is flagging any arm preventing conditions (flags). Otherwise, if bound successfully, double check if the channel map is setup correctly in the Receiver tab, verify you have radio input there. Make sure your switches are setup correctly in your radio's Mixer screen too. Let me know if this helps :)
@@FPVtipsEverything in my receiver tab is moving in the correct position. When I arm my tinyhawk freestyle and push the throttle up the motors will spin fast without following the throttle curve and then shut off.
@@calebmorant932 It's normal when testing without props to have your motors spin up, even seemingly on their own. I'm puzzled by the shutting off. The tinyhawk is running dshot, so calibrating is out of the question. If you've tried flying safely outside and notice the issue is only at higher throttle values, does your quad fall out of the sky then or what? Could be an issue with the ESCs or a voltage with the board?
When I push the throttle up the motors just spin and then two will shut off and then it'll just keep doing that until I disarm the quad.
@@calebmorant932 You can swap out a motor that shuts down with a motor that doesn't. That will help you validate if it's the motors at fault, because if after the swap the same motors fail, it's them. If the failing motors don't fail on another slot, it's probably an ESC issue. We can still hope it's a solveable software issue, but sometimes hardware fails and getting a new all in one board is the best solution, not to mention the amount of time you'll save debugging stuff for about 30 bucks. Unless you are doing this for fun and learning, in which case carry on and have fun :)