Andy just wanted to say thank you for posting your pids. I'm using them on a Toothpick build and there so much better than the BF Community Presets for 2" Micro's. Your doing an amazing job for us Micro enthusiasts. Keep it up!
I wanted a mob6 but they are sold out everywhere, so I ordered one of these. I just want something to rip up and down my street, not far, and I'm impressed with this little one. Thanks for your review, and it's always a pleasure to watch you fly.
Good review Andy! Emax are smashing it at the moment. I've got the tinyhawk v1 & v2. I'm definitely going to be getting this little beast for a bit of playground fun and tight spaces where a 3 inch would be too much. They are really good at releasing products that are just bind and fly and no bother with pids and other annoyances! i've flown the v1 tinyhawk to within an inch of it's life and all i've broken are props! couple of quid later and boom, your back in the air again😊. Very good company with very reliable products
I could hear the difference your PIDs made in the motor pitch noise. Nice to be able to do that .. I wouldn't have a clue. Not a fan of limited VTX channel selection .. reminds me of the KingKong/LDARC 16 channel limitation. I was going to say something about the low RSSI values, but you covered that. Thanks for the review; great as always. Cheers!
Thanks Andy I just received mine today looks like I bought a good one especially thanks going through the Beta flight program. Everything should bind up perfect. I’ll be back!
Andy I thank you so much for the cli dump.. Thumbs up from us who don't have a finesse and your expertise with tuning in Betaflight. I flew this, the Geprc Phantom and the original Tinyhawk as well as the new Tinyhawk S and I must say I had loads of fun doing crazy aerobatic maneuvers with the two cell freestyle but running through the trees as a slalom course and around obstacles the original Tinyhawk with the Mockingbird tune just took the lead in every way except flight times.. the Geprc Phantom with 650 2s flew for over 11 minutes in mixed flying and was the quietest of all four.
You should give the phantom another try with a 450 2s or 300mah 3s. It's really setting a handicap to run that big of a 2s in it against the two tinyhawks.
@@Largetalons True and I will try it with the smaller battery packs.. I run 550 and 520's on my Tinyhawk original and the s version and they are still nimble.
Well the manufacturer recommends 300mah 3s for the phantom and with an 11 minute reported flight I would wager that performance is being traded off for flight times with that setup.
Andy, I was thinking of getting the Tinyhawk s but this new Tinyhawk Freestyle has saved me the need to buy another frame which was my plan. And this new drone looks like it might be able to carry the Hawkeye Firefly HD camera.
Thanks Andy, just got the Freestyle 2, has a 200mw VTX, Looking forward to your video on that. There are differences, for one, no cap, at least on the arm... Packs charging now, LOL.
nice model I'd buy it but i'm still skeptical of the jst connector. and the answer is simple, theres a jst connector so they can sell the rest of their 1s battery stock. if the connector puffs the battery then you'll buy even more batteries. Thanks for the review.
Time Stamps: 0:00 Intro 0:30 Why? 1:40 Specs 11:46 Betaflight 15:06 left in the box 15:39 LOS With Emax Tune 21:28 FPV with Emax Tune 25:57 Preview of my Tune
The model has a great look , I hope the Capacitor doesn't Break off with a head-on collision , I think they should have brought it forward another 10 mm and put a Cable tie around it & the inside front arm for a little more support with the heat shrink 😁👍 what a difference in the end after your pid tuning , well done
Hello Andy, I am a fan of your work and just want to say thank you for your great videos. My question is I’m new to the fpv hobby and I just purchased the Tinyhawk FS and was wanting to know how do I input all that info I just looked at with your rates? I want my Tinyhawk to fly as good as possible without the oscillations. Teach me please I’m a fast learner and am willing to learn. Thank you Andy. I meant your tune.
I love watching you fly. I'm an old airplane guy so I can relate. Have you ever done a video showing how to add a flysky or spectrum recieiver to one of these? I dont want to buy a new radio to fly there quads.
Bought one of these, and an eachine novice 2 with flysky and flymore options, At the same time that I bought a tiny hawk 2 freestyle, I have respect for the drone, but the eachine is WAAY better bang for your buck Eachine is totally modular so upgràding is easy! Plug and play, but the emax it a pain to upgrade
Hey Andy great review as always! Just a quick one from my side how would you compare this to the GepRC phantom and which one is better in your opinion? I love both GepRC & Emax products and I see the only competition in the recent toothpick hype between those 2 so far. I'll appreciate your inputs on this. Keep it up mate !
Hey i have the same drone and in broke off the port that the camera plugs into, i was wondering if i can use the the other 4 ports on the drone for a camera?
Alex Ramirez yes you could!!! I did before I bought the q7s. Tiny hawk, Tinyhawk s, Tinyhawk 2, and two freestyles on that little white transmitter. The Cli dump is on EMAX website.
Hi, I got one of these yesterday and I am having a bad time trying to fly it. Betaflight shows controller is bound to drone but is not armirng, motors do not receive any signal. What do you think? Thank you
Hi Andy,you can fly this on a 1s,you just need a plug with positive and negative wires soldered together and plug it in where your 2nd battery would be😉
Thanks for the review. Sort of a "Toothpick Plus"! Would an XM+/R-XSR be a sensible upgrade? I see it has the UART spare. I got into Frsky for my quads very recently so have an X9 Lite = no D8. I don't want to buy a module just for this ...
Yes you can use the goggles right away. You have to do some configuring to get the RTF controller to work.👇👇👇 th-cam.com/video/zxiAimVPI4Q/w-d-xo.html Its should be the same as the Tinyhawk s since they use the same board.
Hey Andy! Great video. I bought this on your recommendation and it is awesome! however, a few weeks in, I had a small crash, and lost all video. The camera and vtx work, as I have diagnosed everything correctly. any idea how to fix this issue? I assume the osd chip has somehow died but not sure how? otherwise any idea where I might be able to find a replacement board? Cheers
an osd chip dying would just get rid of the OSD. its possible the vid in and vid out trace got broken in the crash as im guessing you checked and double checked the solder joints
@@AndyRCchannel ahh yea makes sense. I have resoldered and no dice. Looks like a new board. Is the original tinyhawk board the same? Seems to be the only one I can find. Cheers.
you just had to do it ...you just had to post this video ...then twisted my arm (virtually of course) and made me buy from banggood .... I always knew you were a great friend !! Nice review sir !!
Really stupid question Andy but I’m gonna ask anyway lol. With your tune do you keep any of the rate profiles the same as the stock ones or are all of them your custom tunes? I just ask Incase I wanted to go back to the stock tune. And ty for sharing your tune and review
Yes it improves the flight time because the energy isn't being used up in heat. Harmonics wouldn't go away if the tune was changed due to it being an acoustic artifact
Hi Andy, Another great video.👍 Is there any chance you could help me please. I brought a tiny hawk 1 off eBay a few months ago, but when I plug the battery in, all it keeps doing is flashing red and bleeping, I can't seem to bind it. Granted, I've brought me the taranis x9plus and have no clue about it. I've try watching a lot off videos on how you lot set them up, but all it has done, it has confused me, and makes me feel like giving the drone thing up. So I would be very greatful if you could spair abit of your time to help me please. Keep up the good work, I love watching your channel. 👍👍
I decided to go with the tiny Hawk freestyle. And I can say it is truly amazing. I have a couple videos on my channel if you want to check them out. Disclaimer I am a noob
the geprc phantom is a toothpick model. this is a brushless micro and has way more power however for a beginner the geprc has the longer range vtx and receiver so id go with that
Possibly because I unlocked my vtx so if the cli is set to a channel that is locked then it won't produce a signal. Unlock the vtx to access the channel
@@AndyRCchannel Hi Andy, put your Tune/PIDs on my EM Freestyle which came last week and flew it today. Wow man what a difference, so smooth and responsive compared to the stock tune. I am well happy, thanks again mate and keep the videos coming ;)
Thanks for the detailed review andy. I was about to go geprc toothpick from your earlier review.... I'm thinking stick with this choice? Basis being geprc better range? 👍👍
I just ordered the GEPRC. it has longer range and better camera. I also ordered the 2S and 3S 300mAh batteries. (though I've ordered 5 days ago it's under backordered status at Banggood)
I'll bet it would fit in the case if you took the foam out... Maybe..? Then the foam could be cut up to make a few pieces to wedge around it to keep it from moving around... Not the best solution, obviously, but better than taking the props off, I guess....
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AndyRC - this or GEPRC Phantom. Yes, they are different but similar. Any thoughts?
Andy this or the GepRC Phantom?
@@brownster4865 emax for power and flight time. geprc for range
@@Billbobaker emax for power and flight time. geprc for range
Hey Andy what hd DVR cam could you swap it out with? And what prop gaurds could you use?
Andy just wanted to say thank you for posting your pids. I'm using them on a Toothpick build and there so much better than the BF Community Presets for 2" Micro's. Your doing an amazing job for us Micro enthusiasts. Keep it up!
I wanted a mob6 but they are sold out everywhere, so I ordered one of these. I just want something to rip up and down my street, not far, and I'm impressed with this little one. Thanks for your review, and it's always a pleasure to watch you fly.
Andy your videos always make sense of the madness that is the fpv industry. Your common sense approach is admired and appreciated.
Thank you. Means a lot
Thank you for this honest review, I purchased one and am super happy with it.
Good review Andy! Emax are smashing it at the moment. I've got the tinyhawk v1 & v2. I'm definitely going to be getting this little beast for a bit of playground fun and tight spaces where a 3 inch would be too much. They are really good at releasing products that are just bind and fly and no bother with pids and other annoyances! i've flown the v1 tinyhawk to within an inch of it's life and all i've broken are props! couple of quid later and boom, your back in the air again😊. Very good company with very reliable products
I could hear the difference your PIDs made in the motor pitch noise. Nice to be able to do that .. I wouldn't have a clue. Not a fan of limited VTX channel selection .. reminds me of the KingKong/LDARC 16 channel limitation. I was going to say something about the low RSSI values, but you covered that. Thanks for the review; great as always. Cheers!
Thanks Andy I just received mine today looks like I bought a good one especially thanks going through the Beta flight program. Everything should bind up perfect. I’ll be back!
Andy, Your reviews are very since you really cover the products from all aspects, thank you very much
Thank you very kind
Hi Andy. I am getting this very quad in the spring, and I am happy it is getting great reviews. Thank you for the review. Drone On!™
You always do a thorough job, thanks!
Andy I thank you so much for the cli dump.. Thumbs up from us who don't have a finesse and your expertise with tuning in Betaflight.
I flew this, the Geprc Phantom and the original Tinyhawk as well as the new Tinyhawk S and I must say I had loads of fun doing crazy aerobatic maneuvers with the two cell freestyle but running through the trees as a slalom course and around obstacles the original Tinyhawk with the Mockingbird tune just took the lead in every way except flight times.. the Geprc Phantom with 650 2s flew for over 11 minutes in mixed flying and was the quietest of all four.
You should give the phantom another try with a 450 2s or 300mah 3s. It's really setting a handicap to run that big of a 2s in it against the two tinyhawks.
@@Largetalons True and I will try it with the smaller battery packs..
I run 550 and 520's on my Tinyhawk original and the s version and they are still nimble.
@@Largetalons Drone Camps recommends a 3s 450 and that is quite a bit heavier than the 2s 650 and 550's and loves the performance.
Well the manufacturer recommends 300mah 3s for the phantom and with an 11 minute reported flight I would wager that performance is being traded off for flight times with that setup.
Good honest review. GJ Andy.
Andy, I was thinking of getting the Tinyhawk s but this new Tinyhawk Freestyle has saved me the need to buy another frame which was my plan. And this new drone looks like it might be able to carry the Hawkeye Firefly HD camera.
Thanks Andy, just got the Freestyle 2, has a 200mw VTX, Looking forward to your video on that. There are differences, for one, no cap, at least on the arm... Packs charging now, LOL.
? th-cam.com/video/vIjBVFJ8Y8o/w-d-xo.html
nice model I'd buy it but i'm still skeptical of the jst connector. and the answer is simple, theres a jst connector so they can sell the rest of their 1s battery stock. if the connector puffs the battery then you'll buy even more batteries. Thanks for the review.
It did seem quicker with your pids. Good job Andy.
Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Why?
1:40 Specs
11:46 Betaflight
15:06 left in the box
15:39 LOS With Emax Tune
21:28 FPV with Emax Tune
25:57 Preview of my Tune
The model has a great look , I hope the Capacitor doesn't Break off with a head-on collision , I think they should have brought it forward another 10 mm and put a Cable tie around it & the inside front arm for a little more support with the heat shrink 😁👍 what a difference in the end after your pid tuning , well done
I'm a whole quad behind - I only just flew the TinyHawk S today. I do love that Emax smoothness though - the freestyle looks cool
Hello Andy, I am a fan of your work and just want to say thank you for your great videos.
My question is I’m new to the fpv hobby and I just purchased the Tinyhawk FS and was wanting to know how do I input all that info I just looked at with your rates? I want my Tinyhawk to fly as good as possible without the oscillations. Teach me please I’m a fast learner and am willing to learn. Thank you Andy. I meant your tune.
Oh yes with a jumper it will 1s fly Awesome i can't wait to have the money to buy one.😁👍🇬🇧 Thanks Andy. 😁👍🇬🇧
I love watching you fly. I'm an old airplane guy so I can relate. Have you ever done a video showing how to add a flysky or spectrum recieiver to one of these? I dont want to buy a new radio to fly there quads.
RC with Andy
liked your review Andy,Thanks.
Bravo young man, Andy. Hey Emax, - - - - - nice model! Jeff
Thanks for the share my bro!
Looking forward to your vtx antenna fix video
Just picked one up. Thanks for the 10% off coupon Andy. Keep up the great content!
Hi
where's the coupon for this model Tinyhawk Freestyle thanks
if you take the foam out it fits with props on
Andy, in your CLI dump, which profile is your custum tune ? Thx and great review.
Hmmm dunno which one to pick...this one or the diatone gtb229 ? cons : 25mw and the cam :/
Nicely done Andy thorough as always.
runs on 1s just fine.even comes with a little plug with a looped cable to fill the slot the the 2nd 1s gos.
what do i need to change in BF after adding a flysky receiver ?
(and what could go wrong? )
Would it be possible to replace the vtx with the unify pro32 nano, and add a crossfire nano rx?
Bought one of these, and an eachine novice 2 with flysky and flymore options,
At the same time that I bought a tiny hawk 2 freestyle,
I have respect for the drone, but the eachine is WAAY better bang for your buck
Eachine is totally modular so upgràding is easy! Plug and play, but the emax it a pain to upgrade
Do you know how to bind it with Taranis x9 lite, since it is using d16?
Hey Andy great review as always! Just a quick one from my side how would you compare this to the GepRC phantom and which one is better in your opinion? I love both GepRC & Emax products and I see the only competition in the recent toothpick hype between those 2 so far. I'll appreciate your inputs on this. Keep it up mate !
emax for power and flight time. geprc for range
Does this model support D16 for the UK like the Tiny Hawk S?
Hey i have the same drone and in broke off the port that the camera plugs into, i was wondering if i can use the the other 4 ports on the drone for a camera?
Nice review, I have a question can I bind the E6 transmitter that comes with the tiny hawk rtf to this quad? And if so how do I do it?
Alex Ramirez yes you could!!! I did before I bought the q7s. Tiny hawk, Tinyhawk s, Tinyhawk 2, and two freestyles on that little white transmitter. The Cli dump is on EMAX website.
What's with the face in the clouds? 😎
Is there a way to take an xm+ reciever and turn off the part that causes unwanted failsafes?
Nice quality.
Hi, I got one of these yesterday and I am having a bad time trying to fly it. Betaflight shows controller is bound to drone but is not armirng, motors do not receive any signal. What do you think? Thank you
Hi Andy,will this bind with the jumper t8sg? Cheers
Wow, looks awesome!! Stellar review as always Andy! Thanks for making this hobby great!
"id be suprised if it ever breaking"
Watch me break it on my first battery....well hopefully not.
GREAT REVIEW ANDY!!
Hi Mate, good luck and i hope you dont. Have a good flight mate. 👍
Very nice review and flight demo. Thanks also for the CLI of your tune ;-) See you in the Air!
Hi Andy,you can fly this on a 1s,you just need a plug with positive and negative wires soldered together and plug it in where your 2nd battery would be😉
Hey man! Would you try running it on 1s? (Frequent flyer did it aswell)
I have a video on my Channel with it on One S if you would like to see
Obviously my VIN pin is defective.
Is there a chance to remap any other solder joint and resolder VIN cable?
If yes, how?
Thanks for the review. Sort of a "Toothpick Plus"! Would an XM+/R-XSR be a sensible upgrade? I see it has the UART spare. I got into Frsky for my quads very recently so have an X9 Lite = no D8. I don't want to buy a module just for this ...
yes you can fit a full range receiver. Cheers
Hey Andy, can you post a link to your tune?
Can I use my EMAX rtf goggles etc from the original Tinyhawk with the freestyle Andy.?
Yes you can use the goggles right away. You have to do some configuring to get the RTF controller to work.👇👇👇
th-cam.com/video/zxiAimVPI4Q/w-d-xo.html
Its should be the same as the Tinyhawk s since they use the same board.
hi andy can i bind this to my turnigy evolution transmitter? thanks for the videos and keep safe mate
No, emax uses frsky Receivers
Andy can you put a xm-+ on this
Another absolute direct review covering everything! Wicked review Andy! 👍👍👍😎
Would your tune work on the Tinyhawk Freestyle 2?
lovin ur own pid tune those osolations are wack aparat from flyin tuning is the best bit ;) payyyce.
you think that it can support a Gopro hero 5 or Session 5? :D
Excellent thorough review Andy!!
Do you need ham permit for this drone?
Hey Andy! Great video. I bought this on your recommendation and it is awesome! however, a few weeks in, I had a small crash, and lost all video. The camera and vtx work, as I have diagnosed everything correctly. any idea how to fix this issue? I assume the osd chip has somehow died but not sure how? otherwise any idea where I might be able to find a replacement board?
Cheers
an osd chip dying would just get rid of the OSD. its possible the vid in and vid out trace got broken in the crash as im guessing you checked and double checked the solder joints
@@AndyRCchannel ahh yea makes sense. I have resoldered and no dice. Looks like a new board. Is the original tinyhawk board the same? Seems to be the only one I can find.
Cheers.
you just had to do it ...you just had to post this video ...then twisted my arm (virtually of course) and made me buy from banggood .... I always knew you were a great friend !! Nice review sir !!
Hey Andy good reviews as always👍
Crazy pids, but if it works for you why not. I thinks its more about filtering
Nice Review 👍
Which one would you prefer?
This Emax tinyhawk freestyle or the Geprc Phantom??
I'm wondering same
@@Marksmonkey1980 emax for power and flight time. geprc for range
Great review. Thanks for figuring out a good tune for us!
Really stupid question Andy but I’m gonna ask anyway lol. With your tune do you keep any of the rate profiles the same as the stock ones or are all of them your custom tunes? I just ask Incase I wanted to go back to the stock tune. And ty for sharing your tune and review
I didnt touch the rate profiles only the pids. and if you dont like them you can download the original cli from emax's website
Or keep the original pids in profile 1 and Andy's pids in profile 2
What do you mean dont get caught out using Race band 1?? I put it on there and it works fine....or do you mean dont get caught by authorities?
Does your tune affect the flight time or the video at all? If it doesn't maybe what we were hearing was more of a harmonic rather than oscillation?
Yes it improves the flight time because the energy isn't being used up in heat. Harmonics wouldn't go away if the tune was changed due to it being an acoustic artifact
can i put a gopro on it :D?
Best review of this yet!
can you put a gopro on top of it
Hi Andy, Another great video.👍
Is there any chance you could help me please.
I brought a tiny hawk 1 off eBay a few months ago, but when I plug the battery in, all it keeps doing is flashing red and bleeping, I can't seem to bind it.
Granted, I've brought me the taranis x9plus and have no clue about it. I've try watching a lot off videos on how you lot set them up, but all it has done, it has confused me, and makes me feel like giving the drone thing up.
So I would be very greatful if you could spair abit of your time to help me please.
Keep up the good work, I love watching your channel. 👍👍
Hold the Tinyhawk ~leveled when connecting the battery and you should be fine.
thank you for such a good review. packed with information. really good.
This quad or the geprc phantom?
I decided to go with the tiny Hawk freestyle. And I can say it is truly amazing. I have a couple videos on my channel if you want to check them out. Disclaimer I am a noob
Is the 50gs with the batteries? That would be insane
Ahh soz I’m an idiot
Thanks for the review! Does it beat the geprc phantom you loved so much or not?
the geprc phantom is a toothpick model. this is a brushless micro and has way more power however for a beginner the geprc has the longer range vtx and receiver so id go with that
On the audio is there a way to filter out the breakup?
Not really other than edit it out in the video editor and replace with non break up audio from other parts of the flight
Can loading the tune cut the camera feed?
Possibly because I unlocked my vtx so if the cli is set to a channel that is locked then it won't produce a signal. Unlock the vtx to access the channel
15:10 Razor Blade that foam
Make it fit.
Emax should hire you for your expertise, their products would be even better with your knowledge :P
Andy it’s Christmas everyday for you😁
Thanks Andy for what I think is the best review so far (I have watched 6) just ordered one and copied your CLI Dump for when it arrives. :)
awesome let me know what you think compared to the stock
@@AndyRCchannel Hi Andy, put your Tune/PIDs on my EM Freestyle which came last week and flew it today. Wow man what a difference, so smooth and responsive compared to the stock tune. I am well happy, thanks again mate and keep the videos coming ;)
Thanks for the detailed review andy. I was about to go geprc toothpick from your earlier review.... I'm thinking stick with this choice? Basis being geprc better range? 👍👍
stick with the geprc. it has less power but for a beginner its got longer range.
me too .. geprc has a 200w vtx and it is 2-4s and you can get tbs crossfire for 149
@@AndyRCchannel thanks andy
I just ordered the GEPRC. it has longer range and better camera. I also ordered the 2S and 3S 300mAh batteries. (though I've ordered 5 days ago it's under backordered status at Banggood)
one question, can we use the same battery connector for tinyhawk S?
no as the tinyhawk S 2s lipo uses one ph2 connectors and the freestyle uses 2 ph2 connectors in series
@@AndyRCchannel how about we convert it? so on tinyhawk S we can use same like freestyle connector. it is possible?
Great Review & Great Flying!
👍😀👍
Try some gemfan 2540. Its lighter.
I did. less power i found
Geprc phantom as a better specs imho
Very thorough. Thanks.
I'll bet it would fit in the case if you took the foam out... Maybe..? Then the foam could be cut up to make a few pieces to wedge around it to keep it from moving around... Not the best solution, obviously, but better than taking the props off, I guess....
Thanks for the review and coupon, sold it for me.
How did you bind it pls help me, bought a taranis x9 lite and it's not binding...
You would have to go into Betaflight and change the receiver to be D16. Check the description of this vid.
th-cam.com/video/FkyGSt4mSMY/w-d-xo.html
Fantastic review and flying, Andy!!! 😃
Another winner from Emax! And it's not expensive! 😃
what contoller did u use??
X9d taranis plus she but don't think they make that version any more
Mine will be here tomorrow. Looking forward to making a review vid! There's still time to enter my giveaway if anyone is interested btw:)
How does this compare to the babyhawk series of quads?
Lighter and safer but with the same power. Just not as much range
AndyRC Thanks for the quick reply. So which would you recommend? I am looking for a small quad to have fun.
Thank you Andy.