Robert Pattinson for Variety magazine: “I always say about people who do method acting, you only ever see people do the method when they’re playing an a-holes,” Pattinson admitted. “You never see someone being lovely to everyone while they’re really deep in character.”
Even if their defense of the show being satirical was true (which I don't believe) that segment of Jimmy asking women on the street to have sex with him is real harassment. What a gross concept for a show and even grosser execution.
Are you really surprised? I’m not. Jimmy just said in a monologue on his show recently that unvaccinated people don’t deserve medical help. Aba & Preach just did a video on it on their channel if you wanna check it out.
@Roby Walker idk if you know but being pressured and coerced under cameras and tv show personalities often leads to situations where women and others sign their consent and autonomy away when otherwise they wouldnt. Check out any of the many accounts of porn actresses being coerced mid scene into performing acts they werent comfortable with and specifically had in their contracts they wouldnt do. This vile behavior isnt forgiven because of them signing anything. Also consider, if these women were "okay" with this there were likely many others he harassed who refused to sign and therefore werent being aired.
@@Lola_Nico the building jimmy kimmel live used to be one of the main biggest Masonic temples for rituals and meetings n shit...sooo if that doesn’t say a lot, idk what does, look into it! It’s creepy 😬 he’s just another one of the fucking puppets.
I once heard it said that "If you have to keep explaining that your work is satire, you made really bad satire" and that applies to this show perfectly
@@queueareste1458and so much of the “men’s day” social media posts are about women. There are actually some great men’s movements to get behind, like reducing the stigma around mental illnesses, how men are more heavily pressured into joining the military, there’s this growing need to deradicalise men who are joining the alt right against their self interests. But it’s always about women for some reason.
There’s something to be said about how a lot of men’s sense of masculinity is not tied to like… actually enjoying and doing masculine things, but instead based in a reactionary relationship to women and femininity. Like, being a man is about rejecting femininity or reliant on a position of power over (hence why an unrelated woman having rights is somehow emasculating) instead of the ways performing and indulging in gendered behaviour brings you joy and a authentic sense of identity.
@@xxgirl101xx it’s so depressing. I went to a 6yo’s birthday party the other day, and so much of his family is just so focused on gender roles. To the point where he’s getting told he can’t wear the glittery princess cape his cousin was wearing because it was too femme, he was only allowed to wear the plainer one. I’d bought one of those cakes that are rainbow on the inside, and was playfully asking the kids “what colour do you think the cake on the inside is?” And one little boy was like “it has to be a boy colour, like blue or red” what? Masculinity is often just pushed as more of an abstinence of femininity more than anything else. It’s fucking awful.
@@MrHenrytheoctopus it’s so sad that at this point parents are literally pushing toxic anti-feminine thoughts it’s a little boys heads. They’re literally kids, who freaking cares if they like rainbow and sparkly things just let them live their life before they have to go through the depressing process of becoming adult.
The thing is, even if they’re calling it a “parody” of what awful men are like, the only audience they had for the show were those same awful men. No caring guy or self respecting woman would watch that show and enjoy it genuinely.
And they didn't even try to be like fully over the top to make it obvious, they just look like normal people, so its immensely confusing and just comes out as sexist lmao
Oh, yeah, it's totally parodying toxic masculinity. I mean, everything they say is to an audience of cheering men, it's all said without a hint of irony, and the people saying the terrible things are never the butt of the joke but it's absolutely a parody.
It's also made by those same awful men. People act like self awareness absolves people of everything,, like hey buddy if you're aware of what you're doing wrong,, maybe don't do it instead of doing it ironically?
Sorry gotta disagree. I used to watch this with my best friends Mom, who thought it was hilarious. Before Jimmy Kimmel was a talk show host, the Man Show WAS Jimmy Kimmel. That was who he was.
I think it’s pretty eye opening too that if you follow even a handful of women on social media you’ve probably seen them share a guy responding to her calling him on his bullshit by saying “jeez I was just kidding learn to take a joke”. It’s like the #1 backpedal for horrible dudes online.
This or acting like the joke was just too smart and everyone else were too stupid to understand it. Nah, Jason, you didn't outsmart millions of people with your offensive humor.
Never was a fan of Jimmy Kimmel, and finding out he wrote a show like this isn't super surprising. A lot of the segments on his show involve embarrassing, mocking, and borderline harrassing people, including the guests sometimes.
The part where he encourages parents to lie to their very small children about stealing from them in order to laugh at them when they start crying is my favorite
@@4546bees Gus Johnson made a fantastic sketch about that pretty much summing up whats fucked up about it. i didnt really realise until he pointed it out cuz i dont rlly watch Kimmel but yeah its pretty fucked up.
I'd argue the intent wasn't as pure as "comedy." Not arguing with you, just adding to the commentary. Kimmel has always seemed like an opportunist to me even before I was aware of "The Man Show." If they really wanted to satirize stereotypical jerk men then they would have a character like Colbert created to satirize conservative media people like Bill O'Reilly. Instead they just harass women, objectify women, belittle women, and mock progress. Either they're bad messengers or they knew exactly what they were doing.
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I also don't know if I even believe them. Shows like the Colbert Report and the Chapelle show we're out at the same time. IMO they were funnier and they were doing more obvious satire. Like if the majority of your audience doesn't "get it' maybe that's your fault.
Honestly god bless the lady who tried to explain to that elderly lady that didn't speak perfect English what was going on. Idk why the editors would keep that in because it makes them look terrible but it does make me feel better
They probably kept it in thinking viewers at the time would go “look at this chick trying to ruin our joke”. They wanted to make her look like a Karen.
@@bhvillaman4401 the thing is that offensive humor can be funny but most of the time it's just not. It's usually cringe. I think you can make funny sexist/homophobic/etc types of jokes, I don't really care. but they need to actually still be funny. If you're just saying something offensive that's not humor in itself, it's just lazy
The fact that the live audience is agreeing with instead of laughing at the “jokes”, is probably a big reason why people didn’t think of the show as satire
Yeah but there was a lot of genuine agreements. If you were forced to react like that you wouldn't be shouting and screaming "Yes" you'd just lightly applause
"The audience didn't get it." Have you considered that you were just bad writers. Offensive humor is actually really hard to accomplish, I don’t know why hack-job writers think it's the easiest form of comedy.
The “will you have sex with me?” segment cannot be accepted as satire. That happens in reality to women and it’s one of the reasons going out in public feels so much more tiring and risky as a woman. Those women actually felt uncomfortable in that moment and that is not funny.
Right? Like when you’re CHASING a woman screaming for them to fuck you, you aren’t ”satirizing people who harass women”. You can’t just do something and say ”yooo calm down i was just kidding”
i will never understand why some men will complain about their wife and go ‘i hate my wife so much she’s a lazy fat cow’ but 15 years ago he proposed and confessed his love for her and agreed to spend the rest of his life with her 🤨
@@wolftitanreading5308 if you joke about hating someone you just hate them but can't leave them cause you need someone to make your dick hard and cook you food
wow. just wow. i'm reminded of the old Simpsons episode with Rex Banner. "cough....cough....well, YOU people know what a laugh sounds like!!" thank god we have one more SJW in the world. because god damn, we definitely needed one more of THOSE around here.
the "it's a joke" argument doesn't really hold up when you consider the women in the final segment went home completely unaware of what was going on and were possibly scared for their lives... and then imagine later finding out the man who did that to you got his own TV show.
thankfully they probably had to sign a release to have their faces not blurred (i know it’s that way today but i’m not sure how it was in the 2000s). so as awful as that “””bit””” was, hopefully they left the situation knowing it was for a show
I mean I agree and I think Jinny kimmel is super duper not funny or like able, but do you think it’s possible he has changed in 20 years? Like how long is the prison stint for not being PC?
@@victormacdougall6395 for me it’s a decade. If something that was said or done a decade ago and it wasn’t a literal crime and it just a shitty joke or POV and the person has grown a bit since, then I don’t hold it against. If they are just as shitty now, I’d “cancel” them for the shit they said in the last 10 months instead of 10 years. At least that’s my line
I grew up with the show. They knew exactly what they were doing. They never said anywhere "it was a bit." It ramped up the sexism in young men. Its the old "oh this offends people? yeah I never meant to seriously..." Doesn't work, friends. It was this type of thing that as a unattractive, fat chick, taught me that hating myself was normal.
Friend, let me just tell you that you're amazing and beautiful. You deserved better than the media you grew up with and I was in the exact same boat as you.
Never forget the time that Megan Fox was doing an interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live and was describing how she was grossly sexualized and objectified on a movie set as a literal child and Kimmel couldn't have been happier about it. She was clearly uncomfortable. Also, this show couldn't be farther from satire, how is it satire if it is actually how men act and is behavior that they see no problem with?
@@xanderliptak your definition actually shows why it isn’t be satire. Because the purpose should be to “expose and criticize” so since they don’t actually see a problem with these things or seek to expose or criticize men who are this way, the show is not satire.
I remember seeing The Man Show as a kid and wondering why people got married if they just ended up hating each other. That whole "I hate my horrible wife" boomer cliche was rampant in that show and even back then it just seemed sad to me.
As a non-American, I never understood the sympathy for Jimmy Kimmel. I first heard of him when his "Tell your kids you ate all their halloween candy" videos got viral and I never understood how making children cry on purpose is supposed to be fun. Dude sucks, tbh.
Actually, he's pretty clever and funny on his late-night show. People who say he sucks usually haven't ever watched. The Halloween thing does sound bad, but it's totally brilliant.
@bluntrapture Here's the big question. How is it, though? Ignoring the justification of the "To Toughen Kids" argument I've heard before, what makes making a child cry, filming it, and sending it to a late night show host funny? This isn't like laughing at a kid falling down, that's an experience lots of people have has as kids, from being out of balance, or just trying something dumb to learn about the world around them. This is intentionally causing a kid distress by lying in such a way the kid won't understand or be able to look back on as funny. What makes that funny, as a genuine question? It seems to me, rather needlessly mean and for a moment of fame on a TV show segment made to mock the child.
There are 3 reasons to watch Jimmy Kimmel: Guillermo, the guy who does Mike Lindell impressions and of course Snoop Doggs’ plizzanet earth commentary. Anything kimmel isn’t a part of is what makes his show good tbh 🙄
@@bluntrapture I'd very much like an example of any Jimmy Kimmel performance coming of as smart. And i'll be the judge for my self, if it is something i actually think is a smart joke. Waiting for links.
So Jimmy really expected those women he was harassing to be like "This man chasing me at full speed down the street begging me to have sex with him is probably just making fun of men who would do that."
if you look closely, you can see that they also feel ashamed that they like women, whom they are conditioned to simultaneously desire and despise because that's what Being a Man is (apparently) !
It’s interesting to see people simultaneously ask someone to marry them whilst bitching about the fact that said person exists... like jeez, if you hate them so much then maybe don’t be with them 😂
I get anxiety anxiety anytime some stranger even looks at me, so if I was getting chased then I’m not sorry but I’m going to assume I have to defend myself and it’s not going to be pretty lmao
I have been genuinely followed down the street, chased, many a time - it’s not funny. Saying it’s a joke doesn’t make it funny. Saying you’re either too hot and they can’t help it or you’re not even hot so you should know they don’t mean it like that…is beyond stupid.
@@haktar11 wait……I don’t understand how comedy works? Is that what you’re gonna go with? Are you telling me that every single comedy show you’ve ever watched in your life, everyone was a paid actor? So any show to see peoples “reactions”, like maybe an impractical jokers, none of it has any spontaneity? Whoa dude that’s crazy, I must be an idiot.
I remember being a 9 year old kid when this show was airing, and my dad made fun of how sexist and chauvinistic it looked any time the commercials for it came on. Man, I have a cool dad. (POINT OF CLARIFICATION: Kurtis Conner is not my dad)
Dang, can we all be adopted by your dad? Seriously, please, my dad would have loved the Man Show if he knew any channels outside of ESPN, the news, and Cinemax existed.
It feels a bit like when punk artists in the 80s would create satirical music, mocking far right anxieties and ideals, only to be coopted by the very groups they were satirizing because they didn't make it evident enough that it was satire. Satire is extremely difficult and while it can be highly effective, it is also a genre of high risk, high reward; do it right, and you've effectively stripped a dangerous group/idea of some of its power or influence, do it wrong, and you've only given it strength and an extremely public voice.
ITS STILL CRAZY TO ME like in what world does California Über Alles not come off as mocking the alt right?? I mean I could kinda see it with no context but like.
yes !! while i love the dead kennedy’s, they didn’t have enough actual music that wasn’t satire to make it clear that they were mocking the alt right (although to anyone with a brain, it was obvious) and not supporting it . while with groups like the clash-even though some may say they’re not technically punk, their lyrics were-they had the right balance of outright condemning the alt-right (clampdown, guns of brixton, etc.) to balance with satirical music (know your rights, straight to hell, etc.) which made it obvious that they were rebelling against those ideals and not supporting them.
People will really say the most offensive or uncomfortable thing then when they get backlash just claim it was a joke or satire so they can get away with it. If you can’t make jokes without being offensive, then you’re not actually funny
I always thought people where just airing their shitty beliefs and when they get called out for it, try to absolve themselves of all responsibility by saying its a joke.
How the fuck is "abolish women's suffrage" offensive? Women didn't have the right to vote for >100,000 years of human history until the last one hundred years. Are you saying that all the humans that existed before your great grandma were "offensive"?
@@fendviyo Yeah. Basically, if you ask them to explain the joke and the explanation is bad, it was never a good joke to begin with. Stuff like rape/or SA jokes, racist jokes, etc. It’s funny to see them stutter when they have to explain the joke.
"They were poking fun at the toxicity of men's bad behaviour." Jimmy Kimmel: *literally chases a woman while repeatedly yelling at her to have sex with him*
I feel like they were "trying," like it seems the joke is that they are these desprate toxic people and look how dumb and terrible they are, which they showed by just being dumb and terrible and harrassing women on the street. So maybe they were going for satire but they just did a horrible job.
@@the-postal-dude yeah no matter what they say to defend it, “it’s just a joke” “it’s satire” “it’s making fun of that behavior” those women still weren’t in on it, therefore it was still harassment. Whether it was “for a joke” or not.
@@the-postal-dude honestly think it could have been much better if these things were just scripted wouldnt make it funny per say, but at least it wouldnt be outright harassment
Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you're laughing at people that are hurting its not satire its bullying. The ENTIRE audience is men and theyre REALLY excited about it. Its not satire.
Nah. There's tons of examples of popular satires that don't exclusively take swipes at the powerful...even Sasha Baron Cohen's recent stuff contains a mixture. And, by the way, the premise of this statement kind of goes against the show, since it's a satire of douchebags. There may be innocent casualties along the way, but the satirical humour often doesn't function without that added element. Also, it's weird that some people have arbitrarily decided that the "powerful" are deserving of ridicule, as though they're not human beings with feelings that are just as valid. It's all fair game, depending on the intent.
The problem with these sexist shows that say they're satire or "just joking" is that the men working on them think they're being over the top when in fact all their examples are real things that women face. There's a song that released last year in which the singer narrates how he once saw a woman in a cafe and will keep going there and won't leave her till he gets her phone number and then talks about all the romantic things he'd do for her like making her a pizza "But if you say no" but if she rejects him he'd ruin all these things and go around spreading rumours to ruin her reputation. He defends the song saying it was satire but just over a month ago he was accused of sexual harassment... so yea these guys are worse than trash
I agree with you entirely. Saying misogynistic or racist things, in an attempt to pretend like it's over the top, and then immediately following it up with "but it's satire" or "... just joking!" is the worst kind of copout I've ever seen. It's not satire. It's propaganda. They're not lampooning toxic masculinity, they're reinforcing it. It's the equivalent of white comedians like David Cross putting on blackface during a comedy sketch in an attempt to mock racist, while at the same time not realizing that what you are doing IS a classically racist act. Someone wrote something brilliant that read "satire requires a clarity of purpose and target, lest it be mistaken for, and contribute to that which it intends to criticize." "it's just satire" is starting to feel like the new "just kidding/I was just trolling you/it was a joke/etc". There are ways to successfully satirize bigotry and toxic traits without actually being a bigot/toxic.
but when women make fun of their misogynistic behaviour and make a joke about sexist men we're suddenly "haters of men" and "unfunny" and "try too hard" 🧐 I
I feel like they started the show off trying to be “satirical” but then ALL of their fans were not getting it at all and just liked the misogyny, and then they totally went with it. Jimmy kimmel “hated” it? Umm doubt it. They definitely just accepted the misogyny and continued with it because it worked. And then made it a big thing out of it from their fans and just went off the rails.
Would make sense under modern day thought, but you gotta remember this shit is produced by a ton of people over the course of like a year, atleast the first 2 episodes where's filmed before fan feedback could of come and producers could make kinda whatever they want, with how blunt the jokes are I get a different feeling about this show than that it was an accident
A good satire and actually FUNNY show that poked at misogyny while also showing strong women was Johnny Bravo. Yeah, Johnny always went after women, but we saw how the way he went after those women NEVER worked. And the women in that show had incredibly accomplished careers, were intelligent, beautiful, and full of personality. The thing with Johnny is you couldn't really hate him, we know he means well, but he never learned the right way to communicate with women. That was a good show. This? This is terrible.
The thing about good satire is that the premise has to already hint to you that the character they are mocking is in the wrong. Bravo was not the hero. He was the guy women were annoyed with. The corny, boomer sexpest. He was the parody of the alpha male bro stuff, proven in that episode where he becomes a woman and finds his own antics awkward to listen to.
Wait, isn't that exactly what this entire show is about? Didn't that segment show the exact same thing? Wasn't the suffrage bit about how all the women were smarter than they gave them credit for, and they even ruined the guys chances to get the non native to sign up?
@@iloveallthepeople The way you have to had watched that segment with you eyes and ears closed is literally the only way you could have come to this conclusion.
My highschool US history teacher actually showed my class a clip from this show when we were reviewing our unit about women's suffrage... he didn't get any laughs out of us that morning with that one.
...I'm especially curious if he thought the girls would find it funny? Bc..."haha, another group rich Christian white men didn't want to share the vote with! Classic, thigh-slapper humour." wtf. If anything, I would find it a curious material for sociology to examine how even the accomplishments women and minorities have made in history and to overcome adversity are still channeled through the perspective of the people narrating and documenting these events for history.
Thinking about the fact that the show Golden Girls is at least 10 years older than the Man's Show and still tackled on issues and taboo subjects with finesse. That's why I find it hard to use the "oh it was a long time ago, times were different" excuse
Golden girls was 1985-1992 or something like that and I just feel like they covered topics but did it with class and dignity, like when they thought rose might have had aids and they were informing the public that friends can have aids and it’s not just horrible monsters, but your neighbor or best friend can get it through no fault of their own
reminded me of the episode when Dorothy's friend came to visit, and she was a lesbian and ended up being attracted to Rose. They never made her sexuality a joke, but the joke was mostly around Blanch's reactions to not being the one that her friend was attracted to. And even when Rose turned her down, it was respectful and her explaining she just didn't feel that way about the opposite sex. Golden Girls was a show that was so ahead of its time.
There is no punchline, not even the guys themselves; there’s no point where they make a point of how absurd it is to be misogynistic. That would be the funny part, the “wow these guys are dense”. The closest resemblance of a punchline is the women, just like they tried to lie and say otherwise.
Exactly. A good example of something in that vein being done well is Always Sunny. the characters are over the top and they make it clear by the reaction of the people and world around them that they are terrible people not to be idolized. there was nothing like that present in the man show it was just self indulgent.
I appreciate how almost every single man in the show, whether hosting or in the audience, is consistently dressed exactly like how you’d imagine people who enjoy this show do. It’s got to be some of the blandest, most bowling rink or tiki bar set of clothes I’ve ever seen.
@@blackironwalterkus3851 He absolutely is, but to me it kinda feels more like “70’s tourist in Hawaii for a surfing competition” than “I think I’m going to ask the Hawaiian waitress if she can speak English”
The thing about the men who thought the Man Show was peak comedy is that they're definitely not laughing about the caricature of a misogynistic man, they're laughing because they agree with the misogynistic things being said. If there's anything they don't have, it's self awareness.
I love satire. It's one of my favorite forms of comedy and that show is NOT satire. Sorry, you can't cover up misogyny by saying "It's satire." Your show has to actually be satire for that to work. The fact that Jimmy sexually harrassed random women on the street "for comedy" proves that it is not even remotely satire. At that point, you become the problem and all satirical elements are completely removed.
I'm not trying to sound like a trump supporter but if trump did the exact same thing jimmy kimmel would roll around the floor and say that trump is a rapist he's a hypocrite
No, it sums up intergender relations for the last billion years. Like this is some craaazzzyyy thing that should be upsetting and shocking…like women don’t also hate men. Fuck me, people are dumb nowadays. Twitter opinion having, buzzfeed headline regurgitating, zero outlook motherfuckers…bahhhh…
“They’re making fun of you” was actually so sad. I’m glad she said something. This video made me sad and mad but it also made me laugh a lot which was cool.
I used to be an annoying misogynistic teenager who was into stuff like this and now watching adults nowadays have this kind of thinking makes my soul shiver
So I had a friend that loved this show when we were about 13. Like he was devoted. Would watch every episode. For comparison he was raised Catholic by two parents who were consistently unhappy in their marriage and his brother would constantly try and fist fight his dad. My family had it's own set of issues but most of them were related to the absence of my father and the fact that I had to be raised by my mother, sister, and grandmother all of whom obviously were women. I remember being straight puzzled by his interest in this show because the shit they said just didn't bear fruit as far as I was concerned about the women I knew in my life.
Is he doing ok now? Like I hope he was able to outgrow like some of the family issues he was facing or at least learned to deal with them and most importantly have realized that most of the things on the Man Show were bs.
@@dolphindiver7724 I haven't seen or heard from him in about 20 years or so. Not since we were about 15. I don't really have very much of a presence on social media so we never reconnected like a lot of people do in this age. He went through a period where he was a bit racist because his brother became heavily racist. We were best friends through elementary school and middle school. The last I heard he was going to like a kind of private high school when we were teenagers so I think it probably did him good to get outside of his family situation. He was a straight a student and his family was very wealthy compared to mine so being that he eventually got outside his family situation, hewas a good student, and his family had money as an asset he probably went to college and became successful. Or at least that's what I tell myself.
Chasing a woman insisting on sex is making a joke of something that women literally deal with, change their behavior to avoid, and worst case scenarios include being assaulted or killed by the men who act like this. Hilarious satire guys, can't imagine why anyone would think it was in poor taste. /s.
no doubt that the show was in poor in taste and that skit was way to far when he started chasing her that was when i stopped laughing the show was dark humor though was a way to deal with having high levels of testosterone like most dark humor it didn't mean to it just a way to process it and some of the behaviors that aren't acceptable in society to deal with so they wouldn't be internalized and come out in a horrible way
even watching that through a screen knowing he wasn't going to do anything I still felt scared for her and in general, yeah sure it was a "bit" on a TV show but it's a real thing that is always in the back of my head as a possibility whenever I leave the house
Why do women deal with this? Go ahead and explain why it's always a guy hitting on women or whatever. It seems really strange that we complain about it incessantly without ever asking why it is that men are hitting on women all the time. What happens to men who don't hit on women? I think they just never have relationships because the strong independent womyn in gender equality world still expect men to do all the social heavy lifting and take all the risk like it's still the 18th century. It's a social obligation men didn't even ask for and don't even want and yet for some reason this doesn't matter. Given that actual solutions don't seem particularly interesting to people like you who complain about this all the time, I'm confused as to why I should care at all. Also, you know if you look at violent crime stats, women are the safest demographic that exists. They're safer than children. Western white women are the second safest group of humans that have ever existed in the history of our species second only to E. Asian women. I'm something like 4x as likely to be murdered as you, yet for some reason I'm supposed to cry about women getting hit on by men they find unattractive, as if men somehow can know if you find them attractive or not beforehand. Seriously, this is like listening to a trust fund kid or an aristocrat complain about the poors committing crimes or something. Gee, why are there so many poor people? You'd think that would be the obvious question we would ask if we actually wanted a solution.
I read somewhere that good satire has a definite stance, if it can be enjoyed equally by those it's aimed at and those it's making fun of, it hasn't worked. This hasn't worked
It seemed to work back then, sadly. There’s so many women audience members ‘enjoying’ the jokes made at their expense. I’m honestly surprised any dude was able to talk his girlfriend or wife into spending one day of their LA vacay at a TV studio just to watch ‘The Man Show’
Disclaimer: I am in NOWAY justifying what happened, or condoning the tragic and evil terrorist attack on the Charlie Hebdo employees. That was one thing that got me during the "je suis Charlie" movement. I really struggled to buy that their comic strips were innocent satire making fun of the biggots, rather than marginalised groups and vulnerable people. The Charlie Hebdo comics were just really horribly offensive and while they definitely did not deserve what happened to them; I was not comfortable agreeing with the "Je Suis Charlie" message because I also don't think what they published (to a much, much smaller scale) was right either.
A perfect example to counter this nonsense is Stephen Colberts Colbert Report, it was very distinct in its satire and that it was a negative depiction of Conservative media.
The Man Show didn't actually age poorly in the same way that dogshit left in the sun doesn't age poorly. It was shit to begin with, time just made it stink worse.
This is a bad metaphor. Dog shit stops smelling once it dries. I can't think of anything good except off like a bucket of prawns in the sun? But that's usually what we'd say when we're leaving.
every person who blames their inability to “make jokes” upon “cancel culture” and misses the “good old days” when people “took jokes” should watch this. some people gotta hear that if they can’t be comedic without putting people down then they simply aren’t that funny
@@wolftitanreading5308 no. I would'n waste my time on shit like "the man show" or Logan Paul. None of it is funny. Maybe if your IQ is below 100 you might enjoy it. Or if you are easy to manipulate to follow others. Lack of self esteem is also a big reason why someone would laugh just because the can laughter is laughing. Or the audience is responding to the big sign lighting up with the letters "L A U G H". Other tricks would be employees placed in the audience to start the laughter and have the insecure people start laughing as well for the same reason. Afraid of coming of as slow or not being part of the crowd they are sourrounded by. But you do you. I'm sure it'll get you far in life.
Satire would be going to the men their supposedly making fun of and making fools of THEM by setting them up to come face to face with their own hypocrisy and double standards. Satire is NOT making fun of the women they claim to be on the side of. Satire is more than just acting in the way you’re parodying, it’s more importantly doing so in a way that makes the ridiculousness in the stance clear. In this cases, all they’re doing on this show is enforcing that behavior. They’re just making women uncomfortable, not the toxic men they’re supposed to be making fun of.
Actually, I hate to correct you, but the issue is that the hosts didn't portray their sarcasm at all, the audience supported the sexism instead of laughing at it, and they SHOULD have hired actresses to play the roles of women being harassed, that way they would know what's coming and be able to respond in a way that makes it obvious that this is parody and not a thing they actually support. They fucked up on every part of this show. If done correctly, satire of sexism can be REALLY funny and actually make slightly sexist people question themselves. They'll think "why is my opinion the butt of the joke? Am I maybe in the wrong here?" Not exactly in those words, but my point is that it happens. I've actually questioned a few of my beliefs because of Bo Burnham satire jokes in the past, so yeah, it CAN work, these guys just suck.
@@Nakia11798 yeah, since the dam segment, it's noticable that the "jokes" aren't being told as such but literally sound just like straight forward sexist statements. DAM, the incompetence
@@Nakia11798 Honestly it's not to much different when you look at how other toxic people act. People tend to get objectified and it's treated as normal, we're just seeing a trend of one set of toxic people use the actions of others to push their own agenda. Instead of just making the toxic men the butt of the joke it should be anyone objectifying is the butt of the joke. Look at Adam Driver as an example, it's wrong to objectify unless it's a guy such as Adam apparently.
thats cuz it wasnt a joke. they were serious about getting back at PC culture and annoyed that the world was 'feminizing' everything. the creators just said it was sarcasm or that they hated it the whole time cuz it doesn't age well and they wanna cover their asses.
The “bit” chasing women and being denied sex… Yeah, sure, I can totally see how they are seen as the butt of the joke. Except they’re literally harassing the women. But yeah know. Good old comedy
The worst thing that it's not just a bit but real life. Because of men like this I bought a cheap golden ring, wore it on my ring finger pretending that I'm married... at 15 years old! Because this way men harassed me less and bolted from me once they learned I'm "married". I still do that at 24. I heard an argument that this behavior should be allowed because there should be freedom of speech for everyone. Tell me you are an american without telling me you are an american moment, truly. Well, fuck your freedom then.
Even if this show was truly an “exaggerated” representation for satire it still would miss the mark bc it’s not exaggerated. These things happen to women daily so there’s no joke, just videos of harassment and mockery from willfully ignorant “men”
Exactly. Like, we could charitably believe it was *intended* to be a satire, but then it's bad satire because it just replicates the thing they're supposedly making fun. If people who think like that watch it and feel completely validated by it, then it's failing as satire. You're just re-enacting the bad stuff wholesale without making any actual comment on it.
why put 'men' in quotation marks? they aren't less of men for acting so horribly. you have to acknowledge this is made by real men and has been a problem with real men for centuries.
100% for sure, man’s got trash taste in just about anything. I was very glad when Matilda glued that ugly-ass hat to his head so both him and the hat partially got what was coming for them.
the lines from in the show did not sound like they were delivered like jokes, they just sound like those types of guys that just say offensive shit and say it's a joke afterward if you don't agree with them.
A good example of parodying someone who says/does bigoted things is the office. Both Michael and Todd packer said and did offensive shit, but they were surrounded by poc and women who would call them out for it. They were the butt of the joke.
I think things like the Man Show are why “man hating feminists” exist. Obviously “man hating feminist” is an oxymoron because feminism preaches gender equality, but even as a feminist myself, I sometimes find it genuinely hard to not at least *dislike* men. It feels so awful to say it because I know there are still men (Kurtis being a good example) that aren’t like that at all, but shit like the Man Show just makes me resent masculinity as a whole. If a lot of people believe masculinity is despising and over sexualizing women, burying all your emotions, and being angry all the time then I’ll have you know I want no part of it whatsoever. I just don’t understand how they can’t see how wrong that is.
I'm curious. Do you not have any friends that are men? Like a singular dude on yt should not be your only point of reference for good people of the opposite gender.
@@clvno the statement definitely framed in such a way where she seems like she doesn't know the men she is referencing in this instance. When you say "I know they exist" it implies that it goes against personal experience.
@@ihatehandles6969 because it probably does go against personal experience lmao... personally, the shitty men in my life far, _far_ outweigh the decent ones.
Speaking of the early 2000s' emphasis on hyper-masculinity, Toby Maguire was almost denied the role of Spiderman by Sony because they didn't believe him to manly enough. That's funny since Peter Parker has never striked me as a hyper-masculine figure.
Its cuz hes SUPPOSED to be that average, kinda geeky, low confidence but room for improvement type , no over-exaggerated masculinity in his character. Hes the friendly neighborhood hero. Like a dude u interact with everyday. Although toby aint no slouch. That "not manly enough" criteria thing is beyond stupid.
I know he didn't do Dark comedy necessarily, but it's funny how all these guys herald George Carlin as their heroes when you know he'd have nothing but contempt for them.
This is what I'm saying. If you want to do dark comedy/satire well then it actually has to be funny. Its about subverting the norm rather than reinforcing it. Even I could come up with a bit that centers on misogyny and it would be actually funny. There's no subversion in these jokes and they're tired and overdone.
@Maheen Tariq I agree. I believe a good comic and make a joke about anything. It’s what separates the good from the masters. Dave Chappell is the only comedian I’ve seen craft a joke about trans people and live to tell the tale. Because he is a master at what he does.
Has anyone seen that video of Jimmy Kimmel interviewing Megan Fox, and she talks about how uncomfortable she was filming a scene when she was underage, and he says “Well we all wanted to see that”? He is a gross man, I’ve never liked him.
Yeah I used to think he was funny but now I noticed how mean he was. Specially after that basketball match with Ted cruz and I don't even like Ted cruz.
Watching this and reading through the comments- I feel beyond lucky that I grew up with a dad that didn’t entertain this kind of humor. I’m the youngest of three girls, and my dad has never once belittled any of us for any reason, especially our gender. We share hobbies (woodworking, horror novels, lotr, marvel films, building things, gardening, and foraging) and love sharing ideas, and he’s my biggest supporter when it comes to wanting to go into the agriculture field or starting a homestead. I used to have a friend, though, whose dad was a lot like these guys. I’ll never forget being fifteen and leaving their house crying because he called me a lesbian because my friend and I slept on top of the same heated blanket at night in their freezing cold blanket in the winter. Or the times he made countless sexist jokes with his eldest son in front of his three daughters. That friend hates their dad with a passion now. Last I talked to her, her step-mom (who she ((and my entire family)) adores) filed for divorce because he was constantly putting her down, gaslighting her, the list could go on. Sexist humor isn’t humor, it’s just putting a very thin blanket over just plain sexism. And the blanket really isn’t hiding anything
Eldest of three girls here and sadly our Dad hates women. He'd never say that of course, but it couldn't be more obvious. He wouldn't see this as satire for a minute. It sucks to grow up seeing your Dad laugh at this kind of crap. I wish the writers could understand how that feels.
The important thing to delineate satire from sincerity is subversion. If one episode they said “ay, we decided there’s too many girls on THIS show!” and replaced all the dancing girls with dudes in speedos, that’d be pretty funny.
that WOULD be pretty funny. They could do like a string of handsome models and then do a fat guy with a comeover mugging like a playboy bunny. I'm not saying I'm a comedic writing genius. I'm saying that literally the most obvious joke is better than the tripe they peddled as """"""""""""""""""""""""comedy""""""""""""""""""""""""" .
The weirdest part about this for me is that the idea of a “man show” by itself is perfectly reasonable. Like, a talk show about “man” stuff? Why not. But “The Man Show” is not a show about stuff men like, it’s a show about belittling women.
I always knew there was something “off” about Jimmy Kimmel and now that I’ve learned about this show that he created and was a part of, I now get why I had the feeling of uncomfortableness everytime I would see him on tv or on social media
I knew him from the man show and found his new place as a liberal media darling a strange twist in his narrative arc. I guess he "re-invented" himself. Today's Jimmy would roast the old Jimmy. There is no there, there. Hollywood. What can you do?
That one part where he asks the women if they want to have sex unprompted is creepy enough, but I feel like the part where he chases one of them while saying that makes it so much worse
The problem with this show's "comedy" is that they're trying to parody misogyny, I guess. But instead of showing themselves being misogynistic and then being ridiculed (to send the message that misogyny is bad in a funny way), they show themselves being misogynistic and then... go out and ridicule women, which sends the message that they're superior, hence misogyny is good. I believe comedy should be able to touch on delicate subjects. But if you want to take that risk, you better know how comedy works. Like theoretically. You can't just blurt out sexist joke after sexist joke and call it "comedy". Actual comedy requires talent, and empathy, and an understanding of why some things are funny, and some are not.
Yeah it's really simple, seinfeld a show that is way older did it great, like Jerry rejecting a woman because he thinks her boobs are fake or literallly everytime George dates a woman, they are in they act stupid, they suffer THE CONSEQUENCES of acting stupid, THEY are the joke
You really don't know what comedy is. Maybe this isn't your type of comedy, and that's fine, but no one's forcing it on you... like people like you tend to. Comedy's job, is to purposely cross the line.
@@psychedelicfright85 Kurtis is not the person for you to be watching then lmao. He has repeatedly said that if you can’t make a joke that isn’t “offensive,” you just can’t write a joke. You just aren’t funny.
They said that the two guys were meant to be the butt of the joke but I can't help but notice that the audience of the show isn't laughing at them, they're just agreeing with them. The audience are meant to be our viewpoint, if this is satire, and we're supposed to understand that being misogynistic is bad actually, then why are we meant to identify with misogynists?
Even as a guy this kind of thing disgusts me, women deserve much better than this. I've never understood the "joke" either, it always just seems like thinly veiled hatred and misogyny to me
I think an important part of satire is making what you're criticizing or satirizing be the butt of the joke, with this show the "manly man" aesthetic isn't the joke the actual offensive jokes they're saying are, so despite how much they claim to be parodying the manly culture they're actually just empowering it because at no point do they seem to make the manly culture look bad or stupid
I think there’s a quote from some famous author about how satire has to very obviously be satire, lest it contribute to the thing it’s mocking which can be very hard to do
I will always remember being 15 or 16 and reading a book on the living floor while my parents were watching the man show, and at the end they lat audience members ask questions and a guy asked "why do fat girls give good head" and I swear my heart stopped, because I was a fat kid (I am a fat adult) and my face was on fire and the answer was "because they have to" My parents laughed and I looked at them, internally horrified, and my mom told me it was ok to laugh at that. I didn't think it was funny. That one sentence honestly made me internalize so many messages about my self, and my worth, and my body, in maybe 45 seconds.
That just shows how fucking demonic those kinds of creeps are. Putting their muck out there for everyone to be affected by, including actual children. I remember Corolla from long before that show (I never saw it, proud to say), and he was ALWAYS an incredibly ugly, nasty piece of work. He just emanated malevolence and dismissive, defensive entitlement. Just like his scumbag fans. But seeing how they deeply they scarred children and stole some of their innocence makes me really see the depth of their insupportable depravity. This is truly pure evil.
your parents never should have let you watch the show and should have given you better eating and exercise habits totally your parent's failure not the show
@@astridl1848 this wasn't a kid's show it wasn't on nic at night kids shouldn't have been watching it it was a show for adults mature enough to handle dark humor without being mentally distressed over it
@@jonnym4670 My PCOS, mental health, and restrictive eating disorder agree with you that my parents failed me to an extent but you live in a world of hatred and ignorance if you think every single fat person got fat by eating themselves there. Grow up and educate yourself. The show itself dehumanized and degraded women. And in this instance showed that the humiliation of fat women is funny and ok because you don't see them as people. Regardless of your opinion on how people get fat, fat people are still human beings worthy of being treated as human beings. It was never ok to say that fat women have to give good blow jobs.
@@xanderliptak I mean not in all cases. My aunt attended an Ellen show live and Ellen pulled a prank where she jumped out at people in the bathroom stalls of the studio. My aunt was one of the people shown and she didn’t sign anything.
The Office did a really good job of showing Micheal was the butt of the joke and not the people he was making fun of. Mike made a horrible racist joke about Asian people in Chilly’s, then the camera pans to a horrified Asian woman’s reaction at a different table. Clearly Mike is the idiot here and everyone else is uncomfortable. I’m not sure how I would have made the alleged attempt at satire on The Man Show clear, but YIKES
I point this out when people say “the office wouldn’t last 10 minutes today without getting Twitter canceled.” Wrong lol they made sure you knew it was WRONG how micheal was but that he didn’t know better.
That is also why SouthPark was funny, because the tone of the show always made it clear that Cartman was the butt of the jokes, and that all the characters always pretty much called him out for everything he did. Comedians these days however are as ironically oversensitive as they accuse their audience being, when they don't get how that form of comedy is supposed to work. They think its more about being able to get away with being edgy, like a kid that learns a swear word and gets mad when hes told its bad. Thats how they are today.
And even in scenes where there wasn't anyone there to react, like in scenes where the characters were talking to the camera, characters like Michael or Dwight could say things that were clearly shown as wrong without showing any reaction.
@@seyfullaheyler8832 if you're ironic about it doesn't that mean youre satirizing it? I'm not defending the man-show, but Kurtis's argument is weak there
I mean, if this was intended to be satire...these writers do not know how to write satire. Just BEING the thing you are satirizing doesn't mean you are satire. Satire requires commentary and this show lacked it completely.
They can say it's satire all they want but the bit where they chase and harass women shows real, undeniable disrespect and lack of empathy. Also, if the show was aimed at making fun of hyper masculine bullshit, women should be able to laugh at it and if they aren't, you failed at the purpose you set
@@AlexiaHoardwing _“The Guy Game is an adult video game developed by Topheavy Studios and published by Gathering of Developers, released for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 2, and Xbox in 2004. Presented in a trivia gameshow-style supporting up to four players, it consists of about 1,000 questions spread out over 20 episodes. Much of the game involves watching live-action video footage of young women in bikinis, and as the player succeeds in the game the women eventually expose their breasts. The game garnered much controversy and was the subject of a lawsuit.”_ YO WHAT THE HELL
bcs of the patriachy ☝🏻💀 also being misogynistic is still portrayed as being manly unfortunately, the sexist alpha males are proof of that 😟 they dont wanna respect women bcs they see that as a beta and sigma activity 💀
because it was back then lol wdym like sure it’s fucking disgusting but misogyny has been a “manly” trait for decades we’re only recently getting better at treating women like humans as a whole society
It’s sad the amount of people defending this shit in the comments. Also it seems a lot of the jokes were at the expense of women and never got turned around onto the guys making it even though “they were the butt of every joke”. Too many people liked this show at face value and it probably did more harm then good fueling toxic ideas about women.
My only defense is that the idea itself wasn't horrible, it's just that everything was horribly executed. Bad acting, bad audience, bad skits, uninformed everyone, and especially the whole bothering strangers as a joke bit. They could've done that as a skit with paid actresses and had it be more effective by making the men the butt of the joke instead of laughing at the women's reactions.
this doesn’t surprise me at all. the way jimmy kimmel harassed megan fox on his show makes me believe he wrote this whole thing. edit: for those who don't know megan fox went on jimmy kimmel live to promote a film (forgot which one) like 10 years ago and she and jimmy discuss her acting career from when she was younger. the topic of her as a background actor in Bad Boys II comes up, and she tells jimmy that in this film she plays a stripper in a club at 15 YEARS OLD. they show her clip in the scene in its entirety on live television and he makes some of the most disgusting comments about her body, her skimpy outfit and wanting to hook up with her (AGAIN SHE'S 15 IN THIS SCENE AND HE KNOWS IT). the video is on TH-cam still but be warned because its very disturbing to watch, megan is clearly very uncomfortable while jimmy and the audience are laughing at her.
Robert Pattinson for Variety magazine:
“I always say about people who do method acting, you only ever see people do the method when they’re playing an a-holes,” Pattinson admitted. “You never see someone being lovely to everyone while they’re really deep in character.”
Yoooo that’s true though
We stan robert
robert is a girlboss and we love him for it
@@cool.6701 he’s a girl boss and he thoroughly gaslights and gate keeps
@@joliecollier7937 oh my god I love the reference
Even if their defense of the show being satirical was true (which I don't believe) that segment of Jimmy asking women on the street to have sex with him is real harassment. What a gross concept for a show and even grosser execution.
Are you really surprised? I’m not. Jimmy just said in a monologue on his show recently that unvaccinated people don’t deserve medical help. Aba & Preach just did a video on it on their channel if you wanna check it out.
Jimmy is a mason
@Roby Walker idk if you know but being pressured and coerced under cameras and tv show personalities often leads to situations where women and others sign their consent and autonomy away when otherwise they wouldnt. Check out any of the many accounts of porn actresses being coerced mid scene into performing acts they werent comfortable with and specifically had in their contracts they wouldnt do. This vile behavior isnt forgiven because of them signing anything.
Also consider, if these women were "okay" with this there were likely many others he harassed who refused to sign and therefore werent being aired.
@@Lola_Nico the building jimmy kimmel live used to be one of the main biggest Masonic temples for rituals and meetings n shit...sooo if that doesn’t say a lot, idk what does, look into it! It’s creepy 😬 he’s just another one of the fucking puppets.
@@TheKatarinaGiselle yes! You know wtf you’re talking about
I once heard it said that "If you have to keep explaining that your work is satire, you made really bad satire" and that applies to this show perfectly
Exactly!
Yes! But of course there are always going to be the “Intellectuals” who INSIST “yoU juSt aReN’T sMaRT enOuGH tO uNdERstAnD iT!”
I 100% agree but sometimes you can think something satire and the person is being 100% genuine
definitely true for this show, but there are also a lot of people that just don’t understand satire
@@polygon3538 · But what is the reason they don't understand it?
Calling yourself “The Man Show” then making the entire show about women is a choice…
It’s like how “National Men’s Day” gets more internet traffic on national women’s day than it does on the actual national men’s day
@@queueareste1458and so much of the “men’s day” social media posts are about women.
There are actually some great men’s movements to get behind, like reducing the stigma around mental illnesses, how men are more heavily pressured into joining the military, there’s this growing need to deradicalise men who are joining the alt right against their self interests.
But it’s always about women for some reason.
There’s something to be said about how a lot of men’s sense of masculinity is not tied to like… actually enjoying and doing masculine things, but instead based in a reactionary relationship to women and femininity. Like, being a man is about rejecting femininity or reliant on a position of power over (hence why an unrelated woman having rights is somehow emasculating) instead of the ways performing and indulging in gendered behaviour brings you joy and a authentic sense of identity.
@@xxgirl101xx it’s so depressing.
I went to a 6yo’s birthday party the other day, and so much of his family is just so focused on gender roles. To the point where he’s getting told he can’t wear the glittery princess cape his cousin was wearing because it was too femme, he was only allowed to wear the plainer one.
I’d bought one of those cakes that are rainbow on the inside, and was playfully asking the kids “what colour do you think the cake on the inside is?” And one little boy was like “it has to be a boy colour, like blue or red” what?
Masculinity is often just pushed as more of an abstinence of femininity more than anything else. It’s fucking awful.
@@MrHenrytheoctopus it’s so sad that at this point parents are literally pushing toxic anti-feminine thoughts it’s a little boys heads. They’re literally kids, who freaking cares if they like rainbow and sparkly things just let them live their life before they have to go through the depressing process of becoming adult.
The thing is, even if they’re calling it a “parody” of what awful men are like, the only audience they had for the show were those same awful men. No caring guy or self respecting woman would watch that show and enjoy it genuinely.
And they didn't even try to be like fully over the top to make it obvious, they just look like normal people, so its immensely confusing and just comes out as sexist lmao
Oh, yeah, it's totally parodying toxic masculinity. I mean, everything they say is to an audience of cheering men, it's all said without a hint of irony, and the people saying the terrible things are never the butt of the joke but it's absolutely a parody.
It's also made by those same awful men. People act like self awareness absolves people of everything,, like hey buddy if you're aware of what you're doing wrong,, maybe don't do it instead of doing it ironically?
Sorry gotta disagree. I used to watch this with my best friends Mom, who thought it was hilarious. Before Jimmy Kimmel was a talk show host, the Man Show WAS Jimmy Kimmel. That was who he was.
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I think it’s pretty eye opening too that if you follow even a handful of women on social media you’ve probably seen them share a guy responding to her calling him on his bullshit by saying “jeez I was just kidding learn to take a joke”. It’s like the #1 backpedal for horrible dudes online.
right. people need to stop trying to cover up their asshole-ness with jokes
Wait, Kimmel has responded like that?
If you have to tell people it's a joke, 90% of the time it's not a joke. The rest of the time it's just not funny.
And that, ladies and gentlemen and enbies, is what we call Schrödingers asshole.
This or acting like the joke was just too smart and everyone else were too stupid to understand it. Nah, Jason, you didn't outsmart millions of people with your offensive humor.
Never was a fan of Jimmy Kimmel, and finding out he wrote a show like this isn't super surprising. A lot of the segments on his show involve embarrassing, mocking, and borderline harrassing people, including the guests sometimes.
The part where he encourages parents to lie to their very small children about stealing from them in order to laugh at them when they start crying is my favorite
He kinda reminds me of Ellen in that sense
Jimmy is a relic of ancient times where ppl think making fun of others and sexually harassing them is funni haha and it shows 100%
@@4546bees Gus Johnson made a fantastic sketch about that pretty much summing up whats fucked up about it. i didnt really realise until he pointed it out cuz i dont rlly watch Kimmel but yeah its pretty fucked up.
Oh god the link spamming bots are in Kurtis' comment section now
Jimmy chasing a woman saying "just a yes or no" babe, she's RUNNING AWAY. That's a big no
you run cover for him now that he's a faarrrrr lefffftist tarrrrd now though, don't you?
It’s comedy
“the audience just didn’t get it” have you considered that intent does not equal impact
I'd argue the intent wasn't as pure as "comedy." Not arguing with you, just adding to the commentary. Kimmel has always seemed like an opportunist to me even before I was aware of "The Man Show." If they really wanted to satirize stereotypical jerk men then they would have a character like Colbert created to satirize conservative media people like Bill O'Reilly. Instead they just harass women, objectify women, belittle women, and mock progress. Either they're bad messengers or they knew exactly what they were doing.
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Forgive me for misunderstanding are you trying to say intent doesn’t negate the negative impact?
@@langleymneely yes I believe that’s what they were insinuating
I also don't know if I even believe them. Shows like the Colbert Report and the Chapelle show we're out at the same time. IMO they were funnier and they were doing more obvious satire. Like if the majority of your audience doesn't "get it' maybe that's your fault.
Shoutout to that woman who Informed the other woman what these men were saying to her and trying to help her
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@@PillarsofCreation-- i think it may be technoblade?
@@PillarsofCreation-- oh! It’s actually fanart of a book character!
@@3bugsinatrenchcoat it’s fanart of a book character 👌
@@Aileenie lmfao which character from what book? I'm curious now sorry (':
Honestly god bless the lady who tried to explain to that elderly lady that didn't speak perfect English what was going on. Idk why the editors would keep that in because it makes them look terrible but it does make me feel better
They probably kept it in thinking viewers at the time would go “look at this chick trying to ruin our joke”. They wanted to make her look like a Karen.
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@@ADreamerWithAPen Right? Those still fool me every now and again and i click on the link lol just too curious
@@ADreamerWithAPen I absolutely adore your attitude about everything that's happening.
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The man show forgets that an offensive joke still has to be a joke and not just offensive.
Nah you're just soft lad
@@bhvillaman4401 the thing is that offensive humor can be funny but most of the time it's just not. It's usually cringe. I think you can make funny sexist/homophobic/etc types of jokes, I don't really care. but they need to actually still be funny. If you're just saying something offensive that's not humor in itself, it's just lazy
@@bhvillaman4401nope he is right !! You're misogynistic:/
@@pencilCasey000 Couldn't have been explained better
@@bhvillaman4401OK mr hard.
I am somehow uncomfortable with Kurtis having legs. I've always known him as a floating torso disembodied from the shoulders up
#cancelkurtis2021
#cancelkurtis #kurtisisoverparty #kurtisiscanceled #cancelkurtis2021
So like PewDiePie
he is actually just a floating torso, he edited in the legs for the joke
@@sophiapizarro8313 thank god hes just goofin on us
The fact that the live audience is agreeing with instead of laughing at the “jokes”, is probably a big reason why people didn’t think of the show as satire
THIS.
Because never in the history of man has there ever been forced audience reactions by the studios they are in.
Queue the "Applause" sign
yeah i was thinking the same
Yeah but there was a lot of genuine agreements. If you were forced to react like that you wouldn't be shouting and screaming "Yes" you'd just lightly applause
@@agereartist3763 your joke isn't a joke because I said so, or are you calling me a liar?
i've never heard of opera as a web browser, but hearing kurtis saying "I USE INTERNET EXPLORER" seemingly randomly was even more hilarious imo
i literally only use opera ghfhfhf
I thought the joke was that he was so silly that he was also still using internet explorer 😂
I use opera and i still only got it after he explained it lol
YEAH
Opera is elite.
The whole woman's right to vote bit is literally insane, how the hell did it get past production, even for that time's standards??
Because it's hilarious, that's why.
@@jakesoros2376oh dear
@@jakesoros2376 please reconsider your life choices and grow as a person
@@jakesoros2376I hope you never have a daughter.
@@jakesoros2376 then I think I forgot to laugh cause it was very not. Not. Not funny
"The audience didn't get it." Have you considered that you were just bad writers. Offensive humor is actually really hard to accomplish, I don’t know why hack-job writers think it's the easiest form of comedy.
thats because they dont realize that saying something offensive phrased as a joke doesnt automatically make it humor
agreed offensive humor like carlin and chapelle work because they had an honest satirical edge and they punched up didn't punch down.
@@ddjsoyenby Chapelle definitely punches down. Carlin is a good example
I think It's Always Sunny is a great example of dark offensive humor done actually well
He sounds like Shane Dawson lol
wow chasing a woman begging to sleep with her- that totally didn't make her feel terrified of getting abused or way worse
God, them literally RUNNING away made me feel queasy...
@@buzzinbea same also I like your username btw
Its so creepy and cringy that they didn't even change the term they used when they asked women to sleep with them
Timestamp? I'm impatient
yep, that totally made him look like a REAL manly man!!
The “will you have sex with me?” segment cannot be accepted as satire. That happens in reality to women and it’s one of the reasons going out in public feels so much more tiring and risky as a woman. Those women actually felt uncomfortable in that moment and that is not funny.
Right? Like when you’re CHASING a woman screaming for them to fuck you, you aren’t ”satirizing people who harass women”. You can’t just do something and say ”yooo calm down i was just kidding”
exactly. they totally were making scared women the butt of the joke when they were supposed to be satirizing themselves
FR, like it's literal harrassment and just watching it made me uncomfy
"relax bro, i was assaulting you ironically to hold a mirror up to all those dumb people who commit violent crimes against strangers"
This literally happens all the time to women and it’s not fun.
i will never understand why some men will complain about their wife and go ‘i hate my wife so much she’s a lazy fat cow’ but 15 years ago he proposed and confessed his love for her and agreed to spend the rest of his life with her 🤨
It's just a fun bit of joking it's the grumpy old married couple they talk shit to each other but still love each other
@@wolftitanreading5308 if you joke about hating someone you just hate them but can't leave them cause you need someone to make your dick hard and cook you food
Straight people are creatures that should be studied in a lab
@@wolftitanreading5308thats disgusting 💀
@@drpeppersnumber1fan no it's not it's cute
Really proud of the woman who tried to stand up for the person who didn’t know English being mocked. At least she tried.
Yeah same
They did her so dirty too
I haven't finished the video or watched that since the episode aired but I know exactly what you're referring to. It's so gross.
wow.
just wow.
i'm reminded of the old Simpsons episode with Rex Banner.
"cough....cough....well, YOU people know what a laugh sounds like!!"
thank god we have one more SJW in the world. because god damn, we definitely needed one more of THOSE around here.
@@roflmows you should delete your comment... NOW! ⛈️
The “Maybe they call the show a damn because it stops woman from getting wet” is the best, It made me so happy
I lost it at that I was like damn
that was dam funny
Bahaha me too 😆
I know🤣🤣🤣🤣
same
the "it's a joke" argument doesn't really hold up when you consider the women in the final segment went home completely unaware of what was going on and were possibly scared for their lives... and then imagine later finding out the man who did that to you got his own TV show.
thankfully they probably had to sign a release to have their faces not blurred (i know it’s that way today but i’m not sure how it was in the 2000s). so as awful as that “””bit””” was, hopefully they left the situation knowing it was for a show
I mean I agree and I think Jinny kimmel is super duper not funny or like able, but do you think it’s possible he has changed in 20 years? Like how long is the prison stint for not being PC?
@@victormacdougall6395 for me it’s a decade. If something that was said or done a decade ago and it wasn’t a literal crime and it just a shitty joke or POV and the person has grown a bit since, then I don’t hold it against. If they are just as shitty now, I’d “cancel” them for the shit they said in the last 10 months instead of 10 years. At least that’s my line
@Alexander Liptak I mean I don’t think this was satirical at all. What would you say to defend this as satire?
@@xanderliptak How on earth did that shitty skit 'destroy' the argument?
I grew up with the show. They knew exactly what they were doing. They never said anywhere "it was a bit." It ramped up the sexism in young men. Its the old "oh this offends people? yeah I never meant to seriously..." Doesn't work, friends. It was this type of thing that as a unattractive, fat chick, taught me that hating myself was normal.
I’m sure you’re beautiful
You and me both
Friend, let me just tell you that you're amazing and beautiful. You deserved better than the media you grew up with and I was in the exact same boat as you.
you're exactly the type of person who would cry about this, do you have dyed hair too?
@@pieguy49 misogyny is never a good look, incel
Never forget the time that Megan Fox was doing an interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live and was describing how she was grossly sexualized and objectified on a movie set as a literal child and Kimmel couldn't have been happier about it. She was clearly uncomfortable. Also, this show couldn't be farther from satire, how is it satire if it is actually how men act and is behavior that they see no problem with?
Thanks for bringing this up
He literally said “well that’s how most men think” when she was talking about being sexualized at age 14…gross
@@xanderliptak your definition actually shows why it isn’t be satire. Because the purpose should be to “expose and criticize” so since they don’t actually see a problem with these things or seek to expose or criticize men who are this way, the show is not satire.
Kitchen
@@stephencurry4835 war
Them taking advantage of a woman who didn't speak English, and making her the butt of a joke genuinely pissed me off.
ikr it was rlly sad tbh but at least there was the other person standing up for her :,)
The worst fact jimmy never apologized for that nutshell' show
lmao, are you dumb? Those women are ALL IN ON THE JOKE
@jp dumbest
@@MElixirDNB you realise shes an actor right
I remember seeing The Man Show as a kid and wondering why people got married if they just ended up hating each other. That whole "I hate my horrible wife" boomer cliche was rampant in that show and even back then it just seemed sad to me.
Religion is probably why I’d say. But yeah people shouldn’t Mary those they don’t like.
@@5ashll303 🤡
@@ItsOnPaper why am I a clown, don’t think I said anything stupid
@@ItsOnPaper ?
@@5ashll303 you got it right, king.
As a non-American, I never understood the sympathy for Jimmy Kimmel. I first heard of him when his "Tell your kids you ate all their halloween candy" videos got viral and I never understood how making children cry on purpose is supposed to be fun. Dude sucks, tbh.
Actually, he's pretty clever and funny on his late-night show. People who say he sucks usually haven't ever watched. The Halloween thing does sound bad, but it's totally brilliant.
@@bluntraptureis it?
@bluntrapture Here's the big question. How is it, though? Ignoring the justification of the "To Toughen Kids" argument I've heard before, what makes making a child cry, filming it, and sending it to a late night show host funny? This isn't like laughing at a kid falling down, that's an experience lots of people have has as kids, from being out of balance, or just trying something dumb to learn about the world around them. This is intentionally causing a kid distress by lying in such a way the kid won't understand or be able to look back on as funny. What makes that funny, as a genuine question? It seems to me, rather needlessly mean and for a moment of fame on a TV show segment made to mock the child.
There are 3 reasons to watch Jimmy Kimmel: Guillermo, the guy who does Mike Lindell impressions and of course Snoop Doggs’ plizzanet earth commentary. Anything kimmel isn’t a part of is what makes his show good tbh 🙄
@@bluntrapture I'd very much like an example of any Jimmy Kimmel performance coming of as smart. And i'll be the judge for my self, if it is something i actually think is a smart joke. Waiting for links.
So Jimmy really expected those women he was harassing to be like "This man chasing me at full speed down the street begging me to have sex with him is probably just making fun of men who would do that."
"at first i was scared, but if it's ironic then i guess i should just laugh?"
"Officer, it was just a joke!"
aren't straight men supposed to like women
if you look closely, you can see that they also feel ashamed that they like women, whom they are conditioned to simultaneously desire and despise because that's what Being a Man is (apparently) !
Straight Culture is terrifying
It’s interesting to see people simultaneously ask someone to marry them whilst bitching about the fact that said person exists... like jeez, if you hate them so much then maybe don’t be with them 😂
@@ghostofmisao. imagine being scared of why you're alive
they do like women, but they are also not spineless wimps who say whatever fake nonsense they think she wants to hear like kurtis would.
can I just say as a woman I would be genuinely terrified if someone chased me down the street and this show horrifies me
I get anxiety anxiety anytime some stranger even looks at me, so if I was getting chased then I’m not sorry but I’m going to assume I have to defend myself and it’s not going to be pretty lmao
as a man I would also be genuinely terrified if someone chased me down the street
@@timetraveler_from_2012 Absolutely horrible, my anxiety would ramp up alot. I'd imagine they were a serial killer
I have been genuinely followed down the street, chased, many a time - it’s not funny.
Saying it’s a joke doesn’t make it funny.
Saying you’re either too hot and they can’t help it or you’re not even hot so you should know they don’t mean it like that…is beyond stupid.
You’ve never been chased down the street? You must not be that attractive then
"The river of estrogen" sounds epic and now I want to find this river and drink from it
Gonna be searching for it like it's the fuckin one piece
Most guys have
WHERE IS IT!?
The river of estrogen and the lake of testosterone is a need in the transgender community
@@nicohebert4281 based
When he chased that woman up the street asking her to have sex with him...that’s a real life nightmare right there man lol
@@johnnyfeathers7076 nah. There’s no points for that. Take that nonsense elsewhere
seriously
@@johnnyfeathers7076 are you insane?
@@haktar11 wait……I don’t understand how comedy works? Is that what you’re gonna go with? Are you telling me that every single comedy show you’ve ever watched in your life, everyone was a paid actor? So any show to see peoples “reactions”, like maybe an impractical jokers, none of it has any spontaneity? Whoa dude that’s crazy, I must be an idiot.
@@haktar11 RIP comedy…..will always remember the days when it was allowed
I remember being a 9 year old kid when this show was airing, and my dad made fun of how sexist and chauvinistic it looked any time the commercials for it came on. Man, I have a cool dad. (POINT OF CLARIFICATION: Kurtis Conner is not my dad)
Your dad is awesome!
Props to your dad, he's very respectful :)
Yeah now i dont believe you, what is like to be Kurtis' son?
How does it feel being the mayor's son
Dang, can we all be adopted by your dad? Seriously, please, my dad would have loved the Man Show if he knew any channels outside of ESPN, the news, and Cinemax existed.
It feels a bit like when punk artists in the 80s would create satirical music, mocking far right anxieties and ideals, only to be coopted by the very groups they were satirizing because they didn't make it evident enough that it was satire. Satire is extremely difficult and while it can be highly effective, it is also a genre of high risk, high reward; do it right, and you've effectively stripped a dangerous group/idea of some of its power or influence, do it wrong, and you've only given it strength and an extremely public voice.
ITS STILL CRAZY TO ME like in what world does California Über Alles not come off as mocking the alt right?? I mean I could kinda see it with no context but like.
@@claire-zm8cj same thing with white noise by stiff little fingers and white minority by black flag
yes !! while i love the dead kennedy’s, they didn’t have enough actual music that wasn’t satire to make it clear that they were mocking the alt right (although to anyone with a brain, it was obvious) and not supporting it . while with groups like the clash-even though some may say they’re not technically punk, their lyrics were-they had the right balance of outright condemning the alt-right (clampdown, guns of brixton, etc.) to balance with satirical music (know your rights, straight to hell, etc.) which made it obvious that they were rebelling against those ideals and not supporting them.
Dark humor kinda follows the same protocol
What punk artists were co opted by the right ?
why do men always say they hate their wives and then proceed to not get a divorce
the convenience of having a live-in maid and therapist is just too good
they can just get a side piece to keep to benefits of marriage but have the sex that they want
fr like if you hate women so much just get a boyfriend
Someone has to clean the shit stains out of their underwear 🙄
People will really say the most offensive or uncomfortable thing then when they get backlash just claim it was a joke or satire so they can get away with it. If you can’t make jokes without being offensive, then you’re not actually funny
I always thought people where just airing their shitty beliefs and when they get called out for it, try to absolve themselves of all responsibility by saying its a joke.
How the fuck is "abolish women's suffrage" offensive? Women didn't have the right to vote for >100,000 years of human history until the last one hundred years. Are you saying that all the humans that existed before your great grandma were "offensive"?
Schrodinger’s Douchebag in a nutshell.
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@@fendviyo Yeah. Basically, if you ask them to explain the joke and the explanation is bad, it was never a good joke to begin with. Stuff like rape/or SA jokes, racist jokes, etc. It’s funny to see them stutter when they have to explain the joke.
"They were poking fun at the toxicity of men's bad behaviour."
Jimmy Kimmel: *literally chases a woman while repeatedly yelling at her to have sex with him*
I feel like they were "trying," like it seems the joke is that they are these desprate toxic people and look how dumb and terrible they are, which they showed by just being dumb and terrible and harrassing women on the street. So maybe they were going for satire but they just did a horrible job.
i can see how he would be the butt of the joke in that one but like... he's still sexually harassing women...
@@the-postal-dude yeah no matter what they say to defend it, “it’s just a joke” “it’s satire” “it’s making fun of that behavior” those women still weren’t in on it, therefore it was still harassment. Whether it was “for a joke” or not.
@@the-postal-dude honestly think it could have been much better if these things were just scripted
wouldnt make it funny per say, but at least it wouldnt be outright harassment
@@sg-yo4kp agreed
Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you're laughing at people that are hurting its not satire its bullying. The ENTIRE audience is men and theyre REALLY excited about it. Its not satire.
To make this show effective, the audience would be mostly women laughing at the antics of the men and supporting the women who tell them to Fuck off
Nah. There's tons of examples of popular satires that don't exclusively take swipes at the powerful...even Sasha Baron Cohen's recent stuff contains a mixture. And, by the way, the premise of this statement kind of goes against the show, since it's a satire of douchebags. There may be innocent casualties along the way, but the satirical humour often doesn't function without that added element. Also, it's weird that some people have arbitrarily decided that the "powerful" are deserving of ridicule, as though they're not human beings with feelings that are just as valid. It's all fair game, depending on the intent.
@@SallyMankus130 aww the mysoginists have feewings🥺🥺
Too bad :/
@@SallyMankus130 Found the misogyny!
@@SallyMankus130 why should misogynists be treated with respect when they don't treat women with respect?
It can’t be a kurtis connor video without the “classy disney”
I mean, that Disney interview was funny as hell.
The problem with these sexist shows that say they're satire or "just joking" is that the men working on them think they're being over the top when in fact all their examples are real things that women face. There's a song that released last year in which the singer narrates how he once saw a woman in a cafe and will keep going there and won't leave her till he gets her phone number and then talks about all the romantic things he'd do for her like making her a pizza "But if you say no" but if she rejects him he'd ruin all these things and go around spreading rumours to ruin her reputation. He defends the song saying it was satire but just over a month ago he was accused of sexual harassment... so yea these guys are worse than trash
Holy shite what song is that? Big yikes.
I agree with you entirely. Saying misogynistic or racist things, in an attempt to pretend like it's over the top, and then immediately following it up with "but it's satire" or "... just joking!" is the worst kind of copout I've ever seen. It's not satire. It's propaganda. They're not lampooning toxic masculinity, they're reinforcing it. It's the equivalent of white comedians like David Cross putting on blackface during a comedy sketch in an attempt to mock racist, while at the same time not realizing that what you are doing IS a classically racist act.
Someone wrote something brilliant that read "satire requires a clarity of purpose and target, lest it be mistaken for, and contribute to that which it intends to criticize."
"it's just satire" is starting to feel like the new "just kidding/I was just trolling you/it was a joke/etc". There are ways to successfully satirize bigotry and toxic traits without actually being a bigot/toxic.
can someone confirm this song pls
but when women make fun of their misogynistic behaviour and make a joke about sexist men we're suddenly "haters of men" and "unfunny" and "try too hard" 🧐 I
@@Beyblade_worrior It's comedian like these who have been telling men that women's suffering are nothing but a joke and making their life harder.
I feel like they started the show off trying to be “satirical” but then ALL of their fans were not getting it at all and just liked the misogyny, and then they totally went with it. Jimmy kimmel “hated” it? Umm doubt it. They definitely just accepted the misogyny and continued with it because it worked. And then made it a big thing out of it from their fans and just went off the rails.
Would make sense under modern day thought, but you gotta remember this shit is produced by a ton of people over the course of like a year, atleast the first 2 episodes where's filmed before fan feedback could of come and producers could make kinda whatever they want, with how blunt the jokes are I get a different feeling about this show than that it was an accident
No they just think misogyny is funny and they knew they gonna profit from unga bunga cis males
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Capitalism. We all love it we all embrace it. Even this idio kurt
@@Str1ng5 man sure wouldn’t want to be an idio ... or was it idiot? Idk I couldn’t tell from this idiot response
A good satire and actually FUNNY show that poked at misogyny while also showing strong women was Johnny Bravo. Yeah, Johnny always went after women, but we saw how the way he went after those women NEVER worked. And the women in that show had incredibly accomplished careers, were intelligent, beautiful, and full of personality. The thing with Johnny is you couldn't really hate him, we know he means well, but he never learned the right way to communicate with women. That was a good show. This? This is terrible.
Johnny Bravo was great
facts
The thing about good satire is that the premise has to already hint to you that the character they are mocking is in the wrong. Bravo was not the hero. He was the guy women were annoyed with. The corny, boomer sexpest. He was the parody of the alpha male bro stuff, proven in that episode where he becomes a woman and finds his own antics awkward to listen to.
Wait, isn't that exactly what this entire show is about? Didn't that segment show the exact same thing? Wasn't the suffrage bit about how all the women were smarter than they gave them credit for, and they even ruined the guys chances to get the non native to sign up?
@@iloveallthepeople The way you have to had watched that segment with you eyes and ears closed is literally the only way you could have come to this conclusion.
My highschool US history teacher actually showed my class a clip from this show when we were reviewing our unit about women's suffrage... he didn't get any laughs out of us that morning with that one.
I am curious, what was the clip about exactly?
...I'm especially curious if he thought the girls would find it funny? Bc..."haha, another group rich Christian white men didn't want to share the vote with! Classic, thigh-slapper humour." wtf. If anything, I would find it a curious material for sociology to examine how even the accomplishments women and minorities have made in history and to overcome adversity are still channeled through the perspective of the people narrating and documenting these events for history.
Thinking about the fact that the show Golden Girls is at least 10 years older than the Man's Show and still tackled on issues and taboo subjects with finesse. That's why I find it hard to use the "oh it was a long time ago, times were different" excuse
Golden girls was 1985-1992 or something like that and I just feel like they covered topics but did it with class and dignity, like when they thought rose might have had aids and they were informing the public that friends can have aids and it’s not just horrible monsters, but your neighbor or best friend can get it through no fault of their own
YES, i was literally about to comment that.
reminded me of the episode when Dorothy's friend came to visit, and she was a lesbian and ended up being attracted to Rose. They never made her sexuality a joke, but the joke was mostly around Blanch's reactions to not being the one that her friend was attracted to. And even when Rose turned her down, it was respectful and her explaining she just didn't feel that way about the opposite sex. Golden Girls was a show that was so ahead of its time.
That's why they're the Golden Girls ,';^3
Every episode of The Golden Girls was just Dorothy saying, "Blanche, you're a whore".
There is no punchline, not even the guys themselves; there’s no point where they make a point of how absurd it is to be misogynistic. That would be the funny part, the “wow these guys are dense”. The closest resemblance of a punchline is the women, just like they tried to lie and say otherwise.
Exactly. A good example of something in that vein being done well is Always Sunny. the characters are over the top and they make it clear by the reaction of the people and world around them that they are terrible people not to be idolized. there was nothing like that present in the man show it was just self indulgent.
I appreciate how almost every single man in the show, whether hosting or in the audience, is consistently dressed exactly like how you’d imagine people who enjoy this show do. It’s got to be some of the blandest, most bowling rink or tiki bar set of clothes I’ve ever seen.
gender: bowling rink, oh my god thats so funny ahahahahas adfsdj
mans acting like kurtis isn’t also dressed like a tourist in Hawaii
a kurtis conner watcher who’s also an aki stan???!2&2984929-@!.!,!?:2 marriage when?
@@blackironwalterkus3851 He absolutely is, but to me it kinda feels more like “70’s tourist in Hawaii for a surfing competition” than “I think I’m going to ask the Hawaiian waitress if she can speak English”
@@rayyyyy7698 &/,&38;8/&,$2&:& You’re the first person to notice Aki actually!! I’m super glad someone noticed. Thank you for seeing it!
The thing about the men who thought the Man Show was peak comedy is that they're definitely not laughing about the caricature of a misogynistic man, they're laughing because they agree with the misogynistic things being said. If there's anything they don't have, it's self awareness.
I love satire. It's one of my favorite forms of comedy and that show is NOT satire. Sorry, you can't cover up misogyny by saying "It's satire." Your show has to actually be satire for that to work. The fact that Jimmy sexually harrassed random women on the street "for comedy" proves that it is not even remotely satire. At that point, you become the problem and all satirical elements are completely removed.
He's a mega-creep
@@ari3lz3pp yep.
And now Jimmy is trying too hard to be woke.
I'm not trying to sound like a trump supporter but if trump did the exact same thing jimmy kimmel would roll around the floor and say that trump is a rapist he's a hypocrite
'Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you are laughing at people who are hurting, it's not satire, it's bullying.' Terry Pratchet
“Loving boobies while simultaneously hating the women they’re attached to.” That sums up modern misogyny completely.
No, it sums up intergender relations for the last billion years. Like this is some craaazzzyyy thing that should be upsetting and shocking…like women don’t also hate men. Fuck me, people are dumb nowadays. Twitter opinion having, buzzfeed headline regurgitating, zero outlook motherfuckers…bahhhh…
Damn what happened with the replies here
@@dontcheckinsideyourcloset
They went “staunchly in favor of coco puffs”
Edit: then they went away 🤨
@@manifestgtr understandable have a nice day
Guys it was nice comment and hot take by Kurtis,everyone else other than the main commenter,Just shut the fuck up and get a life
As a young girl, I never knew it was a joke. It felt horrible to watch my dad laugh at this show every week
How can men, let alone men with daughters, laugh at this show? I’m sorry you had to go through that
My dad is the same way. The "jokes" about removing my right to vote - and now my brother is like this as well - hurts. It just hurts.
I remember watching this when I was young, can’t imagine what it would do to a little girl
@@veganagev2062 Looks like your name is very fitting then.
@@ethansdigitaldiary2811 I couldn't imagine the horror.
Last place I wanna be in world is the room when Jimmy Kimmel's daughter sees him say all this misogynistic shit when she inevitable discovers this
“They’re making fun of you” was actually so sad. I’m glad she said something.
This video made me sad and mad but it also made me laugh a lot which was cool.
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Kurtis: "Imagine having the same job as Joe Rogan"
Kurtis: Has a podcast
owned
Whoooosh
but he doesn't eat horse medicine or platform wh1t3 n@t10nalists.
@@ddjsoyenby why are u censoring white or nationalist
That may or may not have been the joke.
I used to be an annoying misogynistic teenager who was into stuff like this and now watching adults nowadays have this kind of thinking makes my soul shiver
Character development.
Simp development
@@YeTism get a grip, get a life, and get over it
@@mingfei1622 getting over it
@@mingfei1622 cope, seethe, dilate
So I had a friend that loved this show when we were about 13. Like he was devoted. Would watch every episode. For comparison he was raised Catholic by two parents who were consistently unhappy in their marriage and his brother would constantly try and fist fight his dad. My family had it's own set of issues but most of them were related to the absence of my father and the fact that I had to be raised by my mother, sister, and grandmother all of whom obviously were women. I remember being straight puzzled by his interest in this show because the shit they said just didn't bear fruit as far as I was concerned about the women I knew in my life.
Is he doing ok now? Like I hope he was able to outgrow like some of the family issues he was facing or at least learned to deal with them and most importantly have realized that most of the things on the Man Show were bs.
@@dolphindiver7724 I haven't seen or heard from him in about 20 years or so. Not since we were about 15. I don't really have very much of a presence on social media so we never reconnected like a lot of people do in this age. He went through a period where he was a bit racist because his brother became heavily racist. We were best friends through elementary school and middle school. The last I heard he was going to like a kind of private high school when we were teenagers so I think it probably did him good to get outside of his family situation. He was a straight a student and his family was very wealthy compared to mine so being that he eventually got outside his family situation, hewas a good student, and his family had money as an asset he probably went to college and became successful. Or at least that's what I tell myself.
@@jackcoleman1784 Ah well thank you for answering my question
Chasing a woman insisting on sex is making a joke of something that women literally deal with, change their behavior to avoid, and worst case scenarios include being assaulted or killed by the men who act like this. Hilarious satire guys, can't imagine why anyone would think it was in poor taste. /s.
no doubt that the show was in poor in taste and that skit was way to far when he started chasing her that was when i stopped laughing
the show was dark humor though was a way to deal with having high levels of testosterone like most dark humor it didn't mean to it just a way to process it and some of the behaviors that aren't acceptable in society to deal with so they wouldn't be internalized and come out in a horrible way
@@jonnym4670 no and it’s incomprehensible
even watching that through a screen knowing he wasn't going to do anything I still felt scared for her and in general, yeah sure it was a "bit" on a TV show but it's a real thing that is always in the back of my head as a possibility whenever I leave the house
Why do women deal with this? Go ahead and explain why it's always a guy hitting on women or whatever. It seems really strange that we complain about it incessantly without ever asking why it is that men are hitting on women all the time. What happens to men who don't hit on women? I think they just never have relationships because the strong independent womyn in gender equality world still expect men to do all the social heavy lifting and take all the risk like it's still the 18th century. It's a social obligation men didn't even ask for and don't even want and yet for some reason this doesn't matter. Given that actual solutions don't seem particularly interesting to people like you who complain about this all the time, I'm confused as to why I should care at all.
Also, you know if you look at violent crime stats, women are the safest demographic that exists. They're safer than children. Western white women are the second safest group of humans that have ever existed in the history of our species second only to E. Asian women. I'm something like 4x as likely to be murdered as you, yet for some reason I'm supposed to cry about women getting hit on by men they find unattractive, as if men somehow can know if you find them attractive or not beforehand.
Seriously, this is like listening to a trust fund kid or an aristocrat complain about the poors committing crimes or something. Gee, why are there so many poor people? You'd think that would be the obvious question we would ask if we actually wanted a solution.
@@llywelyngruffydd8474 I can see why you get rejected.
I read somewhere that good satire has a definite stance, if it can be enjoyed equally by those it's aimed at and those it's making fun of, it hasn't worked. This hasn't worked
It seemed to work back then, sadly. There’s so many women audience members ‘enjoying’ the jokes made at their expense. I’m honestly surprised any dude was able to talk his girlfriend or wife into spending one day of their LA vacay at a TV studio just to watch ‘The Man Show’
@@m.k.mcgill yeah, the misogyny was so normalised, no one wanted to be the party pooper
Disclaimer: I am in NOWAY justifying what happened, or condoning the tragic and evil terrorist attack on the Charlie Hebdo employees.
That was one thing that got me during the "je suis Charlie" movement. I really struggled to buy that their comic strips were innocent satire making fun of the biggots, rather than marginalised groups and vulnerable people. The Charlie Hebdo comics were just really horribly offensive and while they definitely did not deserve what happened to them; I was not comfortable agreeing with the "Je Suis Charlie" message because I also don't think what they published (to a much, much smaller scale) was right either.
@thanks why are you spamming every response with this?!
A perfect example to counter this nonsense is Stephen Colberts Colbert Report, it was very distinct in its satire and that it was a negative depiction of Conservative media.
The Man Show didn't actually age poorly in the same way that dogshit left in the sun doesn't age poorly. It was shit to begin with, time just made it stink worse.
Well said indeed
Yeah, even as a teen/young adult at the time, I thought it was stupid. And I enjoy edgy comedy. Man Show was just not good.
This is a bad metaphor. Dog shit stops smelling once it dries. I can't think of anything good except off like a bucket of prawns in the sun? But that's usually what we'd say when we're leaving.
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every person who blames their inability to “make jokes” upon “cancel culture” and misses the “good old days” when people “took jokes” should watch this. some people gotta hear that if they can’t be comedic without putting people down then they simply aren’t that funny
Honestly still funnier then half the shit made now a days
@@wolftitanreading5308 no. I would'n waste my time on shit like "the man show" or Logan Paul. None of it is funny. Maybe if your IQ is below 100 you might enjoy it. Or if you are easy to manipulate to follow others. Lack of self esteem is also a big reason why someone would laugh just because the can laughter is laughing. Or the audience is responding to the big sign lighting up with the letters "L A U G H". Other tricks would be employees placed in the audience to start the laughter and have the insecure people start laughing as well for the same reason. Afraid of coming of as slow or not being part of the crowd they are sourrounded by.
But you do you. I'm sure it'll get you far in life.
@@wolftitanreading5308hell no
@@asha7389 hell yes, most of what we got is boring sanitize shit
Satire would be going to the men their supposedly making fun of and making fools of THEM by setting them up to come face to face with their own hypocrisy and double standards. Satire is NOT making fun of the women they claim to be on the side of. Satire is more than just acting in the way you’re parodying, it’s more importantly doing so in a way that makes the ridiculousness in the stance clear. In this cases, all they’re doing on this show is enforcing that behavior. They’re just making women uncomfortable, not the toxic men they’re supposed to be making fun of.
Thank you for articulating my thoughts better than I could have!
YES!!!! So many people don't actually know what satire is so they just throw that term around to cover up their shitty behavior.
The issue is that even if it was just a joke that we didn't get, it still encourages and supports a bunch of really sexist beliefs.
Actually, I hate to correct you, but the issue is that the hosts didn't portray their sarcasm at all, the audience supported the sexism instead of laughing at it, and they SHOULD have hired actresses to play the roles of women being harassed, that way they would know what's coming and be able to respond in a way that makes it obvious that this is parody and not a thing they actually support.
They fucked up on every part of this show. If done correctly, satire of sexism can be REALLY funny and actually make slightly sexist people question themselves. They'll think "why is my opinion the butt of the joke? Am I maybe in the wrong here?" Not exactly in those words, but my point is that it happens. I've actually questioned a few of my beliefs because of Bo Burnham satire jokes in the past, so yeah, it CAN work, these guys just suck.
@@Nakia11798 yeah, since the dam segment, it's noticable that the "jokes" aren't being told as such but literally sound just like straight forward sexist statements. DAM, the incompetence
@@Nakia11798 Honestly it's not to much different when you look at how other toxic people act. People tend to get objectified and it's treated as normal, we're just seeing a trend of one set of toxic people use the actions of others to push their own agenda. Instead of just making the toxic men the butt of the joke it should be anyone objectifying is the butt of the joke. Look at Adam Driver as an example, it's wrong to objectify unless it's a guy such as Adam apparently.
thats cuz it wasnt a joke. they were serious about getting back at PC culture and annoyed that the world was 'feminizing' everything. the creators just said it was sarcasm or that they hated it the whole time cuz it doesn't age well and they wanna cover their asses.
@@AlexiaHoardwing Agreed. Truly screwed up that some of these dudes like Michael B Jordan and Zach Efron can get harassed on TV and no one cares.
The “bit” chasing women and being denied sex… Yeah, sure, I can totally see how they are seen as the butt of the joke. Except they’re literally harassing the women. But yeah know. Good old comedy
emphasize on the “old”
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The worst thing that it's not just a bit but real life. Because of men like this I bought a cheap golden ring, wore it on my ring finger pretending that I'm married... at 15 years old! Because this way men harassed me less and bolted from me once they learned I'm "married". I still do that at 24.
I heard an argument that this behavior should be allowed because there should be freedom of speech for everyone. Tell me you are an american without telling me you are an american moment, truly.
Well, fuck your freedom then.
RIP Comedy
Isn’t that sexual harassment?
My mom was walking by when you played the "Can you fart so hard your balls explode?" clip and she's been giggling for like 10 minutes.
That is amazing
Even if this show was truly an “exaggerated” representation for satire it still would miss the mark bc it’s not exaggerated. These things happen to women daily so there’s no joke, just videos of harassment and mockery from willfully ignorant “men”
Exactly. Like, we could charitably believe it was *intended* to be a satire, but then it's bad satire because it just replicates the thing they're supposedly making fun. If people who think like that watch it and feel completely validated by it, then it's failing as satire. You're just re-enacting the bad stuff wholesale without making any actual comment on it.
Yes!! They’re not satirizing American Man Culture in the same way that, say, Colbert did with the Colbert Report.
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literally walk into any pub in england and you'll find out very fast that this is not an exaggerated representation of the way men behave.
why put 'men' in quotation marks? they aren't less of men for acting so horribly. you have to acknowledge this is made by real men and has been a problem with real men for centuries.
unironically this would be something the dad from Matilda would watch
Let’s get sticky with micky!!!!
YOURE SO RIGHT BAHAHA
That was really specific but yeah I can see it lmao
100% for sure, man’s got trash taste in just about anything. I was very glad when Matilda glued that ugly-ass hat to his head so both him and the hat partially got what was coming for them.
Kinda ironic considering Danny Devito is one of the nicest and kind celebrities
Kurtis looks like he teleported straight out of the 70s in a good way.
Why is there alot of bots here
@@itskurapikasfacenotsailorm 21 kids reckoning
"a dam to hold back a river of estrogen" is one of the funniest phrases ive ever heard
the lines from in the show did not sound like they were delivered like jokes, they just sound like those types of guys that just say offensive shit and say it's a joke afterward if you don't agree with them.
This show was fucking amazing
@@BokuNoFreelo Leave.
@@erikapavedtheway theyre just tryna get attention i would just report them and go on bout my day
This made me realize that if Jimmy Kimmel was young right now he'd probably be a douchetuber 😭
Jimmy Kimmel is a media Leech i seriously dont know why we keep him around
@@doxskew2221
I dunno and I don't care...
@@doxskew2221 Ever since I saw that interview he did with Megan Fox, I’ve never really liked him.
@@clownmommy01 yeah I was really disappointed and disgusted 😐
He’s one of those rare people that pisses off everyone, yesterday he said that anyone who drinks “horse goo” doesn’t deserve to be in the icu
A good example of parodying someone who says/does bigoted things is the office. Both Michael and Todd packer said and did offensive shit, but they were surrounded by poc and women who would call them out for it. They were the butt of the joke.
yeah I agree
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was just thinking about this!! super good point!
Less so for the first season, which is partly why it's considered lower quality than the later seasons. More cringe less funny.
Pierce from community too, he says awful shit but he's consistently the villian
I think things like the Man Show are why “man hating feminists” exist. Obviously “man hating feminist” is an oxymoron because feminism preaches gender equality, but even as a feminist myself, I sometimes find it genuinely hard to not at least *dislike* men. It feels so awful to say it because I know there are still men (Kurtis being a good example) that aren’t like that at all, but shit like the Man Show just makes me resent masculinity as a whole. If a lot of people believe masculinity is despising and over sexualizing women, burying all your emotions, and being angry all the time then I’ll have you know I want no part of it whatsoever. I just don’t understand how they can’t see how wrong that is.
Honestly as a women,I am fine with feminists if they realise men are important,just like we are
I'm curious. Do you not have any friends that are men? Like a singular dude on yt should not be your only point of reference for good people of the opposite gender.
@@ihatehandles6969 what? she used kurtis as an example because everyone reading the comment knows who he is. why make this an issue lmao
@@clvno the statement definitely framed in such a way where she seems like she doesn't know the men she is referencing in this instance. When you say "I know they exist" it implies that it goes against personal experience.
@@ihatehandles6969 because it probably does go against personal experience lmao... personally, the shitty men in my life far, _far_ outweigh the decent ones.
Speaking of the early 2000s' emphasis on hyper-masculinity, Toby Maguire was almost denied the role of Spiderman by Sony because they didn't believe him to manly enough. That's funny since Peter Parker has never striked me as a hyper-masculine figure.
Its cuz hes SUPPOSED to be that average, kinda geeky, low confidence but room for improvement type , no over-exaggerated masculinity in his character. Hes the friendly neighborhood hero. Like a dude u interact with everyday.
Although toby aint no slouch. That "not manly enough" criteria thing is beyond stupid.
He's a high school geek that's terrible casting
Ironic how Toby is now known as the best Peter Parker (he's the best to me too).
He’s literally a 15 year old boy 😭😭
I still think he was the best Peter Parker...
The thing about dark humor is that it actually has to be funny.
I know he didn't do Dark comedy necessarily, but it's funny how all these guys herald George Carlin as their heroes when you know he'd have nothing but contempt for them.
@Saga I agree but I wonder if George Carlin, Paul Mooney, Richard Pryor and the likes would even be able to survive in our current PC climate?
This is what I'm saying. If you want to do dark comedy/satire well then it actually has to be funny. Its about subverting the norm rather than reinforcing it. Even I could come up with a bit that centers on misogyny and it would be actually funny. There's no subversion in these jokes and they're tired and overdone.
@Maheen Tariq I agree. I believe a good comic and make a joke about anything. It’s what separates the good from the masters. Dave Chappell is the only comedian I’ve seen craft a joke about trans people and live to tell the tale. Because he is a master at what he does.
you may not find it funny. Others do. Please enlighten us on how to make everyone on the planet laugh at the right jokes.
Has anyone seen that video of Jimmy Kimmel interviewing Megan Fox, and she talks about how uncomfortable she was filming a scene when she was underage, and he says “Well we all wanted to see that”? He is a gross man, I’ve never liked him.
Yeah I used to think he was funny but now I noticed how mean he was. Specially after that basketball match with Ted cruz and I don't even like Ted cruz.
Reminds me of why the game was banned in America.
Watching this and reading through the comments- I feel beyond lucky that I grew up with a dad that didn’t entertain this kind of humor. I’m the youngest of three girls, and my dad has never once belittled any of us for any reason, especially our gender. We share hobbies (woodworking, horror novels, lotr, marvel films, building things, gardening, and foraging) and love sharing ideas, and he’s my biggest supporter when it comes to wanting to go into the agriculture field or starting a homestead.
I used to have a friend, though, whose dad was a lot like these guys. I’ll never forget being fifteen and leaving their house crying because he called me a lesbian because my friend and I slept on top of the same heated blanket at night in their freezing cold blanket in the winter. Or the times he made countless sexist jokes with his eldest son in front of his three daughters. That friend hates their dad with a passion now. Last I talked to her, her step-mom (who she ((and my entire family)) adores) filed for divorce because he was constantly putting her down, gaslighting her, the list could go on.
Sexist humor isn’t humor, it’s just putting a very thin blanket over just plain sexism. And the blanket really isn’t hiding anything
Eldest of three girls here and sadly our Dad hates women. He'd never say that of course, but it couldn't be more obvious. He wouldn't see this as satire for a minute. It sucks to grow up seeing your Dad laugh at this kind of crap. I wish the writers could understand how that feels.
The important thing to delineate satire from sincerity is subversion. If one episode they said “ay, we decided there’s too many girls on THIS show!” and replaced all the dancing girls with dudes in speedos, that’d be pretty funny.
that WOULD be pretty funny. They could do like a string of handsome models and then do a fat guy with a comeover mugging like a playboy bunny.
I'm not saying I'm a comedic writing genius. I'm saying that literally the most obvious joke is better than the tripe they peddled as """"""""""""""""""""""""comedy""""""""""""""""""""""""" .
@@SavageGreywolf they litteraly wouldn't do that cause that's "gay"
You’re a better writer than Kimmel!
this is funnier than anything jimmy kimmel has ever said or written
@@SavageGreywolf You're correct but also let's not go calling people's writing tripe and cliche when your suggestion was a fat shaming joke
The weirdest part about this for me is that the idea of a “man show” by itself is perfectly reasonable. Like, a talk show about “man” stuff? Why not. But “The Man Show” is not a show about stuff men like, it’s a show about belittling women.
Yea watch the view and see a straight white male catch a break
That’s what I was thinking too. I was like why tf does their concept of anything man involve solely the hatred of women? Wtf?
i want man show about things men like, gimme the fudging show for most tequila downed is 30 seconds
I'd love a show where 30 year Olds played games that they played as a kid
Its not even “the man show” its the “hating women show”
also, it's really fucking creppy when men say they want "girls" insted of woman
Definitely
Agreed!!!
What do u expect?? Most old men always go for younger girls and leave their wife at home
@@eo0-g9j it's still creepy 💀
@Ihatecatboys … and that isn’t creepy? Amongst a whole other buttload of filth, that is. 🚮
I always knew there was something “off” about Jimmy Kimmel and now that I’ve learned about this show that he created and was a part of, I now get why I had the feeling of uncomfortableness everytime I would see him on tv or on social media
I knew him from the man show and found his new place as a liberal media darling a strange twist in his narrative arc. I guess he "re-invented" himself. Today's Jimmy would roast the old Jimmy. There is no there, there. Hollywood. What can you do?
That one part where he asks the women if they want to have sex unprompted is creepy enough, but I feel like the part where he chases one of them while saying that makes it so much worse
he literally committed a crime on TV and passed it off as a joke and idk how we knew if they were adults too
do you have the link to the piccrew creator of your pfp or the name of it
@@lucabalsasalsa I had it bookmarked at one point then the bookmark lead to a 404 page so I think it doesn't exist anymore
@@violetnocte dang
How didn't Jimmy Kimmel end filming that day with a black eye swollen shut from pepper spray.
The problem with this show's "comedy" is that they're trying to parody misogyny, I guess. But instead of showing themselves being misogynistic and then being ridiculed (to send the message that misogyny is bad in a funny way), they show themselves being misogynistic and then... go out and ridicule women, which sends the message that they're superior, hence misogyny is good. I believe comedy should be able to touch on delicate subjects. But if you want to take that risk, you better know how comedy works. Like theoretically. You can't just blurt out sexist joke after sexist joke and call it "comedy". Actual comedy requires talent, and empathy, and an understanding of why some things are funny, and some are not.
I agree
Watch Dry Bar comedy!
Yeah it's really simple, seinfeld a show that is way older did it great, like Jerry rejecting a woman because he thinks her boobs are fake or literallly everytime George dates a woman, they are in they act stupid, they suffer THE CONSEQUENCES of acting stupid, THEY are the joke
You really don't know what comedy is. Maybe this isn't your type of comedy, and that's fine, but no one's forcing it on you... like people like you tend to. Comedy's job, is to purposely cross the line.
@@psychedelicfright85 Kurtis is not the person for you to be watching then lmao. He has repeatedly said that if you can’t make a joke that isn’t “offensive,” you just can’t write a joke. You just aren’t funny.
They said that the two guys were meant to be the butt of the joke but I can't help but notice that the audience of the show isn't laughing at them, they're just agreeing with them. The audience are meant to be our viewpoint, if this is satire, and we're supposed to understand that being misogynistic is bad actually, then why are we meant to identify with misogynists?
Even as a guy this kind of thing disgusts me, women deserve much better than this. I've never understood the "joke" either, it always just seems like thinly veiled hatred and misogyny to me
Simp
@@Hrod24go make love to a cold beef sandwich
@@Hrod24dude what? He’s just saying that he just think disrespecting women is not cool
@@Hrod24simp? More like... Shrimp!
Could I get a Fried rice, please, Mr Toon?
I think an important part of satire is making what you're criticizing or satirizing be the butt of the joke, with this show the "manly man" aesthetic isn't the joke the actual offensive jokes they're saying are, so despite how much they claim to be parodying the manly culture they're actually just empowering it because at no point do they seem to make the manly culture look bad or stupid
k pop pfp tho…..
@@VioletValk ok and you don’t have any better argument
Is that...supposed to be a rebuttal to what I said?
You make a very good point thank you for changing my mind
I think there’s a quote from some famous author about how satire has to very obviously be satire, lest it contribute to the thing it’s mocking which can be very hard to do
I will always remember being 15 or 16 and reading a book on the living floor while my parents were watching the man show, and at the end they lat audience members ask questions and a guy asked "why do fat girls give good head" and I swear my heart stopped, because I was a fat kid (I am a fat adult) and my face was on fire and the answer was "because they have to"
My parents laughed and I looked at them, internally horrified, and my mom told me it was ok to laugh at that.
I didn't think it was funny. That one sentence honestly made me internalize so many messages about my self, and my worth, and my body, in maybe 45 seconds.
That just shows how fucking demonic those kinds of creeps are. Putting their muck out there for everyone to be affected by, including actual children. I remember Corolla from long before that show (I never saw it, proud to say), and he was ALWAYS an incredibly ugly, nasty piece of work. He just emanated malevolence and dismissive, defensive entitlement. Just like his scumbag fans. But seeing how they deeply they scarred children and stole some of their innocence makes me really see the depth of their insupportable depravity. This is truly pure evil.
your parents never should have let you watch the show and should have given you better eating and exercise habits totally your parent's failure
not the show
@@astridl1848 this wasn't a kid's show it wasn't on nic at night kids shouldn't have been watching it
it was a show for adults mature enough to handle dark humor without being mentally distressed over it
@@jonnym4670 My PCOS, mental health, and restrictive eating disorder agree with you that my parents failed me to an extent but you live in a world of hatred and ignorance if you think every single fat person got fat by eating themselves there. Grow up and educate yourself.
The show itself dehumanized and degraded women. And in this instance showed that the humiliation of fat women is funny and ok because you don't see them as people.
Regardless of your opinion on how people get fat, fat people are still human beings worthy of being treated as human beings. It was never ok to say that fat women have to give good blow jobs.
@@jonnym4670 Imagine having a masculinity so fragile you feel the need to justify shitty behavior TWICE.
The clip of Kimmel chasing that woman down the street shouting at her is actually terrifying. Like if that happened to me I think I would cry
I know I would cry.
How does that work even? Did those women sign releases or they just aired it without releases?
@@xanderliptak I mean not in all cases. My aunt attended an Ellen show live and Ellen pulled a prank where she jumped out at people in the bathroom stalls of the studio. My aunt was one of the people shown and she didn’t sign anything.
@@emmy8526 you coudln't see her face so I doubt she knows
I know right?! That shit is legitimately scary
The man show talking about the “river of estrogen” reminded me to take my HRT. Thanks, Man Show!
WOOHOO!!
The Office did a really good job of showing Micheal was the butt of the joke and not the people he was making fun of. Mike made a horrible racist joke about Asian people in Chilly’s, then the camera pans to a horrified Asian woman’s reaction at a different table. Clearly Mike is the idiot here and everyone else is uncomfortable. I’m not sure how I would have made the alleged attempt at satire on The Man Show clear, but YIKES
I point this out when people say “the office wouldn’t last 10 minutes today without getting Twitter canceled.” Wrong lol they made sure you knew it was WRONG how micheal was but that he didn’t know better.
That is also why SouthPark was funny, because the tone of the show always made it clear that Cartman was the butt of the jokes, and that all the characters always pretty much called him out for everything he did. Comedians these days however are as ironically oversensitive as they accuse their audience being, when they don't get how that form of comedy is supposed to work. They think its more about being able to get away with being edgy, like a kid that learns a swear word and gets mad when hes told its bad. Thats how they are today.
And even in scenes where there wasn't anyone there to react, like in scenes where the characters were talking to the camera, characters like Michael or Dwight could say things that were clearly shown as wrong without showing any reaction.
Oh young one give it time… people are more and more offended by it as the years go by…
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Reminds me of that one onion article ‘Shocking, Man who is Ironically Sexist turns out to also be Normal Sexist’
I love the onion
So all women are just normal sexists then?
I looked it up and I think it was from the Reductress
But… but i am ironically sexist
@@seyfullaheyler8832 if you're ironic about it doesn't that mean youre satirizing it? I'm not defending the man-show, but Kurtis's argument is weak there
Oh.
Oh gosh.
That going up to random women on the street and asking for sex one was just...
Ugh.
I mean, if this was intended to be satire...these writers do not know how to write satire. Just BEING the thing you are satirizing doesn't mean you are satire. Satire requires commentary and this show lacked it completely.
They can say it's satire all they want but the bit where they chase and harass women shows real, undeniable disrespect and lack of empathy. Also, if the show was aimed at making fun of hyper masculine bullshit, women should be able to laugh at it and if they aren't, you failed at the purpose you set
It was great content. Stop being a snowflake
“We want to see girls! There’s too many WOMEN on TV!” Tell me you’re a predator without telling me you’re a predator.
OH FUCK THAT DIDN’T CLICK WHEN I HEARD THAT, WHAT THE HELL? I know words can come out wrong sometimes but... damn
Look up the reason why the game based upon the show got banned in America, btw don't look at screen shots or gameplay footage.
@@AlexiaHoardwing _“The Guy Game is an adult video game developed by Topheavy Studios and published by Gathering of Developers, released for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 2, and Xbox in 2004. Presented in a trivia gameshow-style supporting up to four players, it consists of about 1,000 questions spread out over 20 episodes. Much of the game involves watching live-action video footage of young women in bikinis, and as the player succeeds in the game the women eventually expose their breasts. The game garnered much controversy and was the subject of a lawsuit.”_ YO WHAT THE HELL
Noted, thank you for clarifying this quote. It took me a moment before it clicked in.
@@lavenderva2507 you left out the art where one of them was underage
i hope that ''classic disney'' will be an ongoing running joke forever, because it cracks me up every time
Seriously, why did media prior to the 2010s portray being misogynistic as manly? There are way too many shows like this…
bcs of the patriachy ☝🏻💀 also being misogynistic is still portrayed as being manly unfortunately, the sexist alpha males are proof of that 😟 they dont wanna respect women bcs they see that as a beta and sigma activity 💀
because it was back then lol wdym like sure it’s fucking disgusting but misogyny has been a “manly” trait for decades we’re only recently getting better at treating women like humans as a whole society
Because women < men obviously 🙄 😑😤😂
@@mysterymakeupherpina oh yea for sure you are the type this show was rebeling against
Nothing is more manly than hating women while simultaneously being upset they won’t date you amirite boys
The scream at the beginning made me drop my fruit cup, Kurtis.
Rip, three bots in a row
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Not the fruit cup 😭
No, not your fruit cup, KURTIS HOW COULD YOU!
It’s sad the amount of people defending this shit in the comments. Also it seems a lot of the jokes were at the expense of women and never got turned around onto the guys making it even though “they were the butt of every joke”. Too many people liked this show at face value and it probably did more harm then good fueling toxic ideas about women.
My only defense is that the idea itself wasn't horrible, it's just that everything was horribly executed. Bad acting, bad audience, bad skits, uninformed everyone, and especially the whole bothering strangers as a joke bit. They could've done that as a skit with paid actresses and had it be more effective by making the men the butt of the joke instead of laughing at the women's reactions.
@@Nakia11798 I guess you're right
@@Nakia11798 not every punchline is going to be spoon-fed to you some people leave things for the intelligence of The Listener to discern
@@sunburnedballoonknot8551 do you think that worked
@@colossalpink9608 worked?
this doesn’t surprise me at all. the way jimmy kimmel harassed megan fox on his show makes me believe he wrote this whole thing.
edit: for those who don't know megan fox went on jimmy kimmel live to promote a film (forgot which one) like 10 years ago and she and jimmy discuss her acting career from when she was younger. the topic of her as a background actor in Bad Boys II comes up, and she tells jimmy that in this film she plays a stripper in a club at 15 YEARS OLD. they show her clip in the scene in its entirety on live television and he makes some of the most disgusting comments about her body, her skimpy outfit and wanting to hook up with her (AGAIN SHE'S 15 IN THIS SCENE AND HE KNOWS IT). the video is on TH-cam still but be warned because its very disturbing to watch, megan is clearly very uncomfortable while jimmy and the audience are laughing at her.