I find it funny how Si can be more sensory than the ISTP, especially in their ideation. If I had to guess, INTPs *generate* more ideas because of Ne's novelty-seeking nature, but often rely on past, concrete details to fuel these ideas while ISTPs generate less, but what few ideas they generate, it's wholely original? It certainly makes sense.
ISTPs are probably the type to have the least amount of words to say in general lol. Actually insane how they struggle to come up with things on average. The one liner guy who never speaks in movies are a good portrait of them lol. Abstractly complex and language is not their thing.
@@mrjonjoe1895 Yeah, I find that NeSi types in general are way more pedantic in their language. Their POV, by nature, is panoramic, and is never settled for one view of reality.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 Kinda yeah, it's never enough thought process, really hold black on closing cases and sometimes making no definitive conclusions. Can be very useless too with detail and so on.
Another very insightful video Harry. I’ve been all over the place, but I seem to strongly resonate with your ISTP descriptions. The whole thing about taking an innovative approach towards things is very relatable. But your explanation of how the lower Ne usage may cause an ISTP to fail to see the short term consequences of their actions resonated very very strongly with me. Especially since you also mentioned that ISTPs do like to form long term future individual visions that they can lock on to. You’re right, some of this stuff does sound similar to INTJ descriptions. I would appreciate a “signs you’re not an ISTP” video.
I was mistyped ENTP till I learned the functions. I always tested INTP, but never suited that type. Didn't suit the ESTP, either. After I ignored ISTP stereotypes and studied functions, I was able to tell the difference. I was always good at fixing things. Didn't care much about fixing my car. If I had a garage, I might. I built many computers and repaired them as side income, or just to help friends get into PC gaming. I should have assumed I was a Ti dom. I just figured what would a loner ENTP be doing, aside form thinking constantly. I knew my thinking was intuitive. I just like many looked at the letters. The letter system is a plague on MBTI. Functions are so much more efficient. I hope you make an ISTP video. You are the best on youtube. The bar isn't very high, though. Not to say I don't respect your intelligence. You are really in another league by yourself. If you know any others around your level, let me know. I will sub in case you make that ISTP video.
Lol I’m thinking the same thing and you have an anime profile picture so I’m guessing so noticed that all the “ISTP” in anime are edgy cool guys 😂 not laid back goofy intelligent people
I'm a clutzy, female ISTP with a master's degree. I present more like an INTP probably because when I grew up in the 70s-80s it was much more acceptable for me to be a book reader & study than to get boys toys even though they were cooler than dolls. I think like an ISTP though so I go with that.
@@cagal6437And the stereotypes don't really matter anyway. My brother is an ISTP. He's brutally smart. I'm an INTJ, I don't feel like a "mastermind" of much of anything. But my primary cognitive preference is definitely NiFi, and my thinking is definitely extraverted. Between us, he's able to just jump into something and get it. I can't do that. If it's something new for me, I need to research, research, and research again for quite a while before I feel comfortable even touching it.
I think I'm an INTP female. I always feel that I can read a room or understand individuals much better than most. Usually, INTPs are defined as being socially inept. I like your explanation of how INTPs use Fe. I wonder if you ever consider discussing gender differences in types.
It's definitely something that can alter the way you "access" certain functions. Especially if you're a TP/J female surrounded by FP/J women all your life.
I'm an INTP and my father in law is an ISTP. This video cleared things up that i observed in the last 4 years. Amazing :) I need more of this stuff. Subbed and curious to see more of CPT videos.
I think I took 5 or 6 different tests on various websites and I always got INTJ. And at first it made sense to me, but it never felt completely right. After doing more research I discovered I am for sure an ISTP. If you'd like, could you do a video like this on the INTJ and the ISTP? I would love to see your vision on these two types.
So as an INTP, I can take advantage of my Ti-Si loop by developing good habits.. but problem is, I'm also a rebellious INTP so if I manipulate myself, my body will rebel.
Same. I really wonder what is it that makes us so rebellious? is the way we use the Fi? To me, it was to the point where I once was doing a good habit spontaneously (without planning) and was enjoying doing it pretty regularly, and literally the moment I realised that: I was consistent with this 'good' habit so I should keep doing it, is also the moment I stopped doing that habit forever.
@@yuzan3607 therefore it is just an illusion. And since how we perceive habit is an illusion, we can reset our minds. Or just accept your perception of it has changed byt just remember that it's natural. That 'change' also happens to INTJs but for us it's the emotions. The moment we're subjected to routines suddenly we will feel something is off. Thanks to cognitive studies I recognize it now that it's normal. Even though moments like that happen, just logicize everything and continue on. Also, you might want to listen to Elon Musk. I believe he's INTP.
@@commontouch1787 I am INTJ and I can say he's not. Check his Twitter too aside from published articles about him. Also, just because he's successful doesn't mean he can't be another type lmao 😅
What an amazing video, Harry! This gets personal, making me think about my brother (ISTP) and I (INTP). Never seen our types compared as insightfully as here.
I got INTP but on the test my s and n where pretty close. I feel as though do a lot of the stereotypical ISTP stuff. I’ve all ways enjoyed hands on stuff like drawing and wood working I listen to heavy metal and like drifting around I my car, basically I like hands on stuff but only if I enjoy it. For example I worked as a fork lift driver and went two years into cabinet making and fucking hated it. I’m now doing sociology and politics and uni and I find it super interesting I also sort of in-depth talks about specific thing’s like human nature and and political dialects, I like in depth conversations but only when I see it doing something intrinsically benefiting to people or society. I also think a lot of the INTP community are a bit up themselves, like I wouldn’t call myself dumb but I’m not some uber genius and I don’t hate people who I may perceive as less intelligent, I think everyone has a particular skill set that will always find a useful application somewhere.
@@Sudo4Life Idk the daydreaming comes after I do something, for example I’ll watch a movie or play a game, then Imagine a world for it or a scenario for it if that make sense. Also while I work on something whether it’s drawing or working on my computer or car I enjoy thinking about what I’m gonna do with it or how I could be doing it better.
Just so impressed by your in-depth knowledge and how well you explain each type and their true differences. I've gotten ISTP, INFP and INTP in tests before (which I know isn't very accurate at telling your exact type) but it's lead me on a mission to find out what type I truly and am, but thanks to you I am understanding what type I think I am because you take a non-stereotypical approach so one can really get to know the type in and out. Also love how you explain that INTP's are very socially intelligent because it's often said that we are bad or even completely oblivious to understanding or being aware of people's feelings which has lead me to believe I was maybe an INFP after all, but being the INTP I am 99.9% sure I am, I kept reasearching and have found your channel extremely insightful! keep the incredible work up! Also I was wondering what you have studied in the past to become so knowledgeable? or if your knowledge comes from just a large interest in personality typing and not for example just a university degree?
Thanks so much! I was actually a musician before I created CPT - I did study Psychology pre-university but I formed CPT through independent research and my own case studies :)
I love these videos man, it makes much more sense for cognitive function to work together in pairs with same orientations rather than individually indulging in one function and trying to make sense out of it, that was confusing for me since yesterday, now I can truly say that I'm an ISTP, I've been interested in these personality theories for a while and only started yesterday to really try to understand everything and for what I remember on my journey to understand this concepts all of which I recall me using Ni + Ti, it truly blew my mind how all of these connected the time I got the eureka moment, this has made a breakthrough in understanding myself.
I took a personality test and got ISTP-T and I did feel like some things that it would describe was accurate but I think that some INTP traits are also accurate for me also so now I just have no clue if I’m ISTP or INTP
Same Why I am not really comfortable writing a comment, because I just wrote a whole sentence and then deleted it, cuz I was worried if my sentence I wrote is not really good and thinking a word to write. Seriously I just rewrite my comment for 10 times
After several months studying about MBTI, this video has given me the answer. I am ISTP. I am 100% sure. Thank you for your great work and your effort with these videos !!! 😉
I've always tested as an intp but recently after a lot of research im connecting more w istp.. its confusing but i think im more of an istp w intp tendencies
I think there is a lot of contradiction in MBTI. I'd be willing to bet a lot of INTPs mistype as ISTP, also. It isn't something that is talked about because of the obvious elitist mentality in MBTI. This is something I read and seems to hold true. It is something I read that makes a lot of MBTI descriptions and stereotypes fall apart. Finding good information is difficult. Maybe many would miss this with their lack of holistic thinking. The tertiary or “child” function is one that we often wield in a playful, exploratory, creative way. The tertiary function is often called the “relief” function by topologists and that's because we can enjoy using it to relax, calm down, and take the pressure off of our often overused dominant or auxiliary functions. Applying that to a ISTPs Ni, a lot of the information out their falls apart. Most of the tests become completely useless. This INFJ is the first I seen talk about ISTP as holistic thinkers. Everywhere else doesn't. It is one missed detail that makes everything else fall apart. INFJs would be very holistic, too. A lot of topologists will ignore when I talk about my favorite things involving Sci Fi. These things are my escape from reality. INTP would escape into the past. Find comfort in their routines. It is all something worth pondering. It doesn't serve me to say I am ISTP because of obvious prejudice. Through not being able to decide whether I am INTP or ISTP, I went back and forth a bit. I notice how I was treated. It is a bit annoying, especially with the Ni doms dealing with condescending undertones, when I am just trying to find truth. I think once a person is condescending, you might as well end the conversation there. They already think they know it all.. Where as I don't think Ti doms ever really think that.
You are incredible!! Always love the depth of knowledge an INFJ can bring into the world. The connections are astounding... :) I am an ISFP here. I loved the video you made of the INFP x ISFP.( It was really some of the best breakdown I have ever heard/seen in my life! ) Any more detailed videos on ISFP would be extremely appreciated...even if it's about how to truly persevere with unconscious critical self thinking that the Te brings into the picture. I struggle a little with maintaining constant confidence and truly letting my power shine. I've experienced plenty of years of grip/and or looping with resistance toward Te and Ni. Although I must say it really changed me in a good way and set me on a better direction, regardless of how challenging it was to accept those shortcomings. Anyway keep up the Goodwork! Sending lots of love
I think the fact that I am constantly analyzing and fine-tuning the definitions of the functions and how I use them, and can never seem to settle on a type for myself, is likely me doing what I do, as an INTP, naturally.
I’m the same way. I’m constantly picking apart and hairsplitting the nuances between cognitive functions and trying to categorize myself which just ends up making me more confused…
@@danicalemon7500 I recently discovered that I am actually an INFP. My style of logic is actually more attached than detached. I use logic to explain who I am, instead of using logic for its own sake. I spend more of my time constantly evaluating things of value and what is right or wrong than I spend trying to make logical sense of things and frameworking in that way
@@HillyHonka that’s actually one of the types I was looking at for myself! I’m still struggling to quite identify what it is.. but hearing that makes me want to look into INFP more. Thanks!
@@danicalemon7500, when I discovered my true type, it hit me all at once. In a way, I was blind to my dominant function, because I used it so much and so naturally that I didn’t realize it was just who I am. It’s like a fish not realizing it’s in water
@@HillyHonka That’s awesome that you were able to do that! If you don’t mind, will you tell me some examples of how you realized you used attached logic vs detached? I’m leaning towards thinking mine is attached as well, as I use systems and quizzes to make sense of why I do the things I do..
wow, the concept of cognitive function is amazing. so istp is intuitive thinker, sensing feeler, whereas intp is actually sensing thinker and intuitive feeler. what an amazing concept. one thing that bother me is the fact that sensor can be strong intuitive, and instead intuitive type can be strong sensor based on the lens which they assigned to the codex, and especially their convergence pairing.
When an INTP dips into their Fi, they’re also at the same time dipping into Ni from an Si position. If this is the case, wouldn’t they act like an ISFP when they are in love? Wouldn’t they try to express their emotions in a non-detail oriented way, such as an ISFP would? This is why many ISFPs are known to be artists, because their feelings (Fi-Ni) are way more plethoric and intuitive in nature, so painting or singing those feelings out is the best way to express themselves. An INFP, on the other hand, would use a different medium, such as writing, to express their own emotions. Because the way they feel is through Fi-Si, which is more detail-oriented and can be captured with words. In other words, when an INTP dips into their unconscious functions, they temporarily become a version of ISFPs, while an ISTP would temporarily become an INFP. Am I correct on this?
In a general sense, you're absolutely spot on. I would add that the dip of any type is highly optional, and as such there is a greater level of control being exerted. As such, even when an INTP does become more Fi-Ni, they would not necessarily become 'more ISFP', as the dialogue is more optional than it is a compulsion/cognitive habit :)
I generally relate to this. I oftne experience emotions impulsively and in waves instead of in incriments or boxes. To me, emotions are a fractal, a constantly repeating sequence that I try, but fail to rationalize, and I often end up just achetyping myself, often using role models unconciously. Often, I see a character or person i want to embody and I subconciously adapt their personality to fit whatever person I interact with as a sort of emotional heuristic way of predicting outcomes.
Thought I was an INFJ until I read the ITN-Sf behavioral description in the EBook. They are frighteningly similar types within CPT. I had to go back to this video, and I was a tad shook.
I was waiting for this video for so long, and I was not disappointed! I think this has been helpful, and I feel as though this has been the only video I've seen so far that goes beyond the trivialities that confuse everyone.
Try to be aware of your behavior in a social environment, and your behavior with theories, scientific literature, etc. If you are more an intuitive feeler, you would probably be an INTP. If you are more a sensitive feeler you are probably an ISTP. Se is the authority function of the ISTP so if you are very aware of your enviornment, more pragmatic, good with the detailts right in front of you (in the present, specially in social settings) you are more likely an ISTP. Ne is the authority function of the INTP that means INTPs see the world through a more intuitive look, looking for patterns, connections, specially in social settings. They see the big picture.
@@Abstractor21 Intuitive feeler vs sensitive feeler? Don't know how to tell. I'm pretty aware of my environment-geography, weather, and navigation have always interested and came natural to me. I do see the world through patterns and connections though always trying to make everything fit together into my own understanding/philosophy. Couldn't that Ni? Thanks for your response.
@@kevinvictor911 I think you are an ISTP. Maybe The intituive part is paired with Ti or Fi probably Ti. Or Maybe Te or Fe, it all depends of your holistic view. Lets imagin these probably scenarios: 1) Looking for patterns in the present external world with external information (like scientific literature) You use that information so you can make a theory using probably more scientific literature or to talk to other people about it or even implement that information in your life you could be an ENFP or ESTJ. The essence here is that you have a lot of Ne-Te or Te-Ne, Te works with external information, researches, books, articles on the internet, what people say about X or Y, etc --> You are more intuitive about external information, external theories. 2) Looking for patterns in your internal world (Ni) Using Fi. I do not think you are an Ni-Fi user because it envoles personal transformation, a future view of ourselves, the information that you obtain is really meaningful to you there is a lot of autotransformation here so you can even feel like you're "changing your skin" through time. INTJ or ISFP 3) Using Ni paired with Ti --> you seek patterns in your personal theories, well, actually Ni is more than that, your inner view is way more holistic than an Si, You're observing the big picture here, you see how everything connects with everything, you "feel" the essence of any personal theory and connect it with another or maybe you can dipp into Si and polish your theory adding more details. Ni gives you the power to really see behind the curtain in a personal theory for example. ISTP or INFJ. Remember ISTPs are way more pargamtic when they're using Ni-Ti, ISTPs don't thoerize too much, they are more connected with reality, with Se. 4) If you are actually an INTP you have a lot of Ti-Si you are a sensitive thinker. You have a large amount of information in your internal world mostly logical: scientific literature, definitions, metholodogies, etc. They do not question theories , definitions, concepts. They use all their knowledge for theory or metodology creation. Their own metodologies, their own creations, their own theroies, all thanks to Si. They observe patterns in past experiences, past information (basically concret information) , and then they generalize or create new theories. But they are not good at looking at the inner implications, the hidden meanings, etc of any given personal theory. Actually they quite good doing assumptions, contingencis, but only in a social environment. My advice here is try to meditate and learn about other people specially friends (if you have, if not, learn about acquaintences). That would probably give you a wide view about the personalities and human cognition. Once you know a lot about the CPT: you meditate, you observe people behavior then you wait and you will notice you are way more different than the others (in a cognitive level). It will help you if your goal is to find your personlity type and mostly: yourself. It's hard, i still don't know my type. PS: Sorry about my bad english, im still learning. I'm from Uruguay (next to Argentina)
Good afternoon! Your channel is the best I've ever watched (on the topic of cognitive functions and MBTI in general). And so I would like to ask questions that interest me. I'm not a native speaker, so I hope everything is readable. 1. Do loops and grips exist? How do they differ from the usual use of the 4th function or the first-tertiary? If so, can the concentration on aux function really help? Because I believe that for a long time I was in the ti-ni, when I spent a lot of time in the Internet environment. And when I pay attention to what is around now, my thoughts are clearer and I feel different. Mabe it`s not about loop but interesting. +Can loop with different functions (not dom-tert) exist for some time? 2. Why is it said that a function develops at a certain age if we have all the functions from birth? I'm a teenager, and when I read about the development of tertiary function from 20 and fourth about 40, I almost didn't understand what it meant. Or development it`s just from 90 \ 10 frequency of use to 60 \ 40? 3. All healthy people have memory, feelings, can think, have senses, and so on. Regardless of the "place" of the function associated with these processes. Is only the natural force of orientation determine the dom-aux? Are these processes the foundation on which cognitive functions stand, or are they part of what are generally called cognitive functions? And in general, the cognitive functions of the brain (of which there are many) are somehow related to the psychological functions of Jung? 4. What do you think about these "names" like "demon", "trickster" and so on. Is it true that it is better not to climb into these functions consciously? Why If the person does not change type still. Why fi is called the istp demon, I even saw a table on which this function does not exist at all in istp😁. Why do people think so? 4. I saw a diagram "top types by IQ level", and as if under the ruler were first intuitives, and then sensors. I believe that intelligence does not depend on type. Maybe people of a certain type (ne, for example) will be easier in this regard, theories, schemes, etc.? And I still do not fully understand because I do not see correlations. It seems to me it depends on the person. How do you see the relationship between intelligence and type? Can ESFPs, for example, understand theories well? I think they can too, if they are interested (?) 5. I was wondering what that meant. Sometimes I want to get to a full understanding of a topic, and I didn't understand how thinking can displace feelings. It can analyze it, go over it, but we all feel it! Maybe it was about psychological processes force or I did not fully understand: "Thinking, if it is to be real thinking and true to its own principle, must rigorously exclude feeling. This, of course, does not do away with the fact that there are individuals whose thinking and feeling are on the same level, both being of equal motive power for consciousness. But, in these cases there is also no question of a differentiated type, but merely of relatively undeveloped thinking and feeling. [“General Description of the Types,” CW 6, para 667.] I've sometimes seen stereotypes about ISTP as insensitive, and I don't understand it at all, because feelings are important for me, it's just one side of my personality, and ti-dom doesn't affect the ability to feel at all. \I am very sensetive\ I`ve read that F should be distinguished from affect (emotion) - and then confused that there are feelings, because I believed that emotions are part of them. 6. What does "unhealthy" function mean? I read that unhealthy development of the dom\ and self-identification with the function (excessive)\ with the suppression of others by force leads to neurosis. But the suppressed functions still do not disappear... How to do prevention? Is there already a fine line between mental disorders? Do these stereotypes or jokes about (for example) the "animals" Se-doms (actually, it's not funny) or "adrenaline junkies" make sense when it comes to unhealthy use of features? 7. You, in my opinion, said something about the fact that istp have the risk of not thinking about the consequences of actions. If it concerns something dangerous, then on the contrary I want to be as careful as possible, as a child I already broke my arms and it taught me to be more careful. And if it's not associated with risk, thenI I just did not understand, sorry. 8. Do you believe in enneagram? I think it's a cool way to cognize yourself, but the fact that traits are innate and remain stable is questionable. And the fact that there should be only one number from some center, while we can all fall under different descriptions little by little (tritypes). I'm not so keen on this but still I'm confused and wanna know is it real and don't care much. Even if it's about the main motivation, can't it change? And is the eneagram related to MBTI at all? And in general all sorts of typologies such as socionics, the big five, psychosophy - can a person have different "by letters"? After all, I trust only cognitive functions and how processes that everyone representative type uses uniquely. personalitycafe.com/threads/oldhams-personality-styles.2640/ especially this: why it should match? 🤨 On test I scored much as sensetive for instance and so on. It's more like frames.(?) 9. Is "living in the moment" related only to Se-users? I will be grateful if you give an answer! Maybe here, maybe in a question-and-answer video.
My friend was mistyped as an INTP. I was an INTP, so I couldn't get my head around why he was so different. He was also not sure what he wants to do/likes to do. He isn't really sure about anything in his thinking. Shows that he is more intuitive. It was the time when used to think 16personalities was right. So I read ISTP description on it, and tried to relate him to ISTP characters. And apparently, he was more of a fit. He does seem to be ISTP, more than an INTP. The description of ISTP does remind me of my friend
Excellent explanation of the distinctions between INTP and ISTP under CPT. The more I pay attention to my own thought processes and preferences, the more thorough I believe CPT is compared to MBTI.
@@CognitivePersonality Thank-you. Really I can't thank-you enough, your video on 4 types of Empathy may have just saved my sanity (or at least begin to) which is LIFE 💞 I'm currently binge watching the rest in the hopes of processing overnight. #grateful
Generally speaking, ESTPs are very active in their environment. They often seek experiences, especially new ones, for the sake of it. ENTPs are less physically focused and more interested in new patterns and ideas for sake of it.
As a divergent ENFJ (albeit moving away from this subtype) I highly related to a lot of what you said about the ISTP. I do consider myself theoretically as a very innovative person albeit not a theorist per se like the INFJ. I enjoy synthesising seemingly unrelated abstract theories and coming up with something completely novel. As an ENFJ I'm working on my FeSe convergence in order to try & 'sell' these ideas to other people. Indeed I think this can be a real stumbling block for me - it's either my way or the high road doesn't really get me far in life; gotta develop those soft skills.
This explains why me(INTP) and my ISTP cousin can dissect a problem into small pieces (Ti, Si+Ni) and both react and relay it to other people by using Fe. We just resolved a huge conflict that is very much a ticking time bomb because of two Fi's clashing with their own values and feelings while who's proving their position louder than the other. His Fe is more developed than mine, so I let him handle the relaying while i use vague implications and 'wisdom' to mask my blunt nature
My understanding of Ti-En-Si is analyzing all possibilities to ensure and easily maintain a predictable, and steady outcome. On the other hand An Ti-Es-Ni would analyze all sensory input to determine the most effective strategy to employ for a desired/prized outcome.
This is really helpful but I'm bit confused about the Te part for example Once I wanted to make game, I had no Idea what kind of game I wanted to make then I had idea of a game where you can use finisher, after that I had whole big picture of how the game should be and then I started filling out the details. As I was making the game (in my head) I changed some part of the game along the way. But once I wanted to learn photoshop manipulation but I learned more. But I don't know Whether I made an big picture out of details or Made the big picture to fill the details. and I also ignore details like name, age, years I'm only interested in main concept not who made it.
Have you ever thought about creating a shorthand for your five letter acronyms. Like ITN instead of ITN-(Sf), using the Ego block as a compact version of the full title (as the divergent stack is implied). Could you possibly do a video discussing the CPT acronyms?
You're right, this needs to happen! I have been struggling with the shorthand aspect as the authority function plays such a large role, but I hear you on the video front!
This is very interesting! I took the MBTI test around 12 times (a year ago), because I was never getting a single result, I was aways getting 3 of them: INTP, INTJ and ISTP. The first one didn't match with me at all because I felt it was too... structured? The second one was way too boring to me. I completely felt I matched with the ISTP but I was so confused as my results were always changing. With all the free time I have now with the quarantine, I decided to try this test again and I finally got ISTP 3 times in a row. So, when you say ISTP can easly be mistyped as INTP and INTJ makes complete sense. I'm happy to know I was not going crazy in my mind =)
Thank you! Indeed this is so often the case - the idea of typing someone entirely based on how they respond to questions on an online test seems redundant to me. Hah, yes, the ISTP is comparatively more bombastic than the more cautious INTJ. Sounds like you've arrived closer to an answer - good news :)
@@CognitivePersonality Good of you to say. I do, for the record, enjoy all those behavioral-focused channels; sometimes, though, they seem like many branches swaying in the wind. As an intp masquerading as an istp (lol), I enjoy getting to the root.
@@CognitivePersonality Hang in there, man. You're a gift to the community. On a side note, I'm really starting to lean ISTP. I'll probably be hitting you up for typing soon to confirm.
Wholisticly socially intelligent, but not at precise pinpointed level like reading a person's emotional needs... or the atmosphere or harmony in a small group of people, it's a more broad scale (getting a sense of the atmosphere...) well depending on how strong is the Ne and how strong is the Se and does it dip in it and how strongly can it dip in it, I think the stronger the Ne is the larger the view and reading of the emotional harmony... (and other things that Fe does in this position) is gonna be (Talking about INTPs)
seems accurate though i reflexively felt in my heart not being the real intuitive thinker was a downgrade. :p i do tend steal my temporary identities from infj's when i'm dandying about. first video of yours i watched i was like, "ah a blonde, blue eyed brit with that inferior se stare - it's david bowie!" good content. keep it up!
I have noticed a distinct tendancy of mine, assuming I bypass my blind spot Se in favor of Te-Ne, that whenever I'm doing a job for my dad, an ESTJ, I usually just bumble about the room hazily until he tells me to interact woth a specific object or device. You could compare it to sleep walking around the room, despjte being fully aware of the situation(is you could call it that, lol.) My lack of efficiency paired with my half-asleep perception of the world kind of form a perfect storm. Would you say that's a decent manifestation of blind spot Se and unconcious Te?
As a mature intp - (definitely into) I don’t recognise your intp descriptions of the internal workings at all. I am big picture and here for innovation and real change. Very challenging to status quo and implementing shifts towards the big picture vision and strategy with values at the core…. Shrugs listening
He's not saying they're not innovative after all they're Ne authority types, he's saying that they do this incrementally via TiSi convergence. Have you thought about getting typed professionally? I'd highly recommend CPT
I think I'll have to go with IxNP for now and the I'm at a point where I'm biased between the two since I tend to think in both ways Se and Ne. I think a lot of it has to do with my ADD (ADHD-i) since it's considered a sensory seeking disorder. This personality does seem often mistyped so maybe I just need to keep doing research and looking inward.
The dominant cognitive functions in first place among the two types are Ti and Ni, not Ne and Se. Ne and Se are in second place in cognitive functions.
Which type would be least likely to follow along and almost have no clue what you just said? Can you use examples of how each type would act in real life?
I absolutely love your videos Cognitive Personality Theory. Honestly, I really can't express how much I am grateful for your content. Amazing human being you are. However, I notice you do experiment with the way you do your videos, which only makes sense. I would just like to give my thoughts on perhaps slowing the pace of the videos down just a LITTLE TAD :D I love you, man. I do pause and think during them and I understand you wish to make them as concise as possible but I do feel like some of the editing can be just a little too lightning quick for the viewers to fully interpret what you are saying :) Much love, Sean
Hello Harry, I think I am an INTP. But, for some reason, I also relate to all of your INFJ videos. When I was younger, I used to score as an INTP in all of MBTI tests, however now, I almost always score as an INFP, which made me re-think whether I'm really an INTP, I became more interested in the cognitive functions instead. I'm mainly considering (INFP, INFJ, ISTP, INTJ) After learning the cognitive functions of the INFPs and INTJs, I'm pretty sure I am neither, I'm also quite sure I am not an ISTP (from this video). However I'm still not sure if I am an INFJ with a strong Ti, thinking they're an INTP. When you were talking about mistyped INFJs you didn't mention INTPs at all, so it seems it's not common that INTPs mistype as INFJs or vice versa even though the cognitive functions are pretty similar. Is there a way to easily distinguish the two?
INTPs tend to rely less on generalisations, and can observe and interact with larger groups than is typical of an INFJ. They also have a more clipped speech style and internally analyse in a more careful fashion :)
I've learned that INTPs often work w3oth a mental auto-correct. If they make a heuristic generalization, they immediatley start incrementally piecing detailed arguments to correct themselves because Ti and Si is more preferable than Ti and Ni. ISTPs are often unaware of their smaller frameworks, and often syngergize all mechanical skills into an ideal or understanding. This is how they can interact woth the world so flawlessly, their frameworks are to amorphus, that they adapt to external specifics. ISTPs do more while thinking about less, as all external compartments are synergized into one. They have little in the way of specific habits and are very bombastic, causing them to see little besides external compartments and boxes. Essentially, they have the lroblem of living in their own present world, unaware of anything outside of their external cubical and only living in the moment. INTPs think more, but do less. Their internal specifics are all blended into chains of external causality and possibility, and the puter world gets so complex and fractal-like that they slip into old habits to escape. This is why they are more cautious than ISTPs, and why they can have trouble coordinating actions and external compartments to fit a vision or ideal.
ISPT vs INFP please. It's very curious to me since I've switched from the latter to the former. I don't know if it's because of some influences I've naturally adapted or me telling myself to be open.
Hey Harry! The more I "dive into" CPT the more I need to ask You a question - Do You consider "quadras"* as usefull/worth using distinction? Myself, I find in usefull in day to day typing of people around me but still I wonder how You relate to this idea. *By quadra I mean types that have the same functions in main stack, for example: INTP/ISFJ/ENTP/ESFJ (all of them have Fe-Ti/Si-Ne in main stack).
In a manner of speaking, they are useful - all types within a quadra have the 'style' of thought and perception (S-T and N-F in this instance), but there is also a convergent/divergent split which doesn't exactly lend itself to cooperation. For example, an INFJ and ISTP often have a completely different agenda to the ENFJ and ESTP :)
Your knowledge and understanding is so valued, thanks for sharing! I wonder if and how the cognitive functions of the ISTP can explain how their memory functions? Do you have any explanation to how an ISTP can paint all memories black and remember only the negatives, as if they never had positive emotions and never chose to do what they did in their life? Expressing they never loved their partner and even can't remember being infatuated, even though they clearly were and expressed a lot of positive emotions and love back then, and during the relationship, until it's all just dark. How is this possible? I can see there must be some black-and white thinking going on. But it's hard not to get confused and ask yourself if your whole life was a lie, when they always seemed so honest and sincere during the relationship, and the picture they are painting by the end is one that sounds like it must have been different life and relationship to the one you have lived with them.
Firstly, ISTPs see the world in a very concrete way, they are not emotional feelers who add sentimentality to situations. Secondly. ISTPs are problem-solvers and tend to focus on the "negatives" more than the positives because the positives don't need solving. Se-Fe are good at living in the moment, so in relationships ISTPs don't really feel in-depth, but more so in superficialities. Ti-Ni are where depth exists for the ISTPs and both of those functions together only care about the total picture. So, having no sentimentality to most relationships combined with the ability to see things as what they are affects the memory by mainly remembering what was really significant to them which is usually the flaws. After all, to limit problems in any system involves looking at those problems as something to be solved in order to perfect future systems/relationships.
Sorry, it's just that English is not my first language, but I don't quite understand what he means by "Bombastic in nature" when describing the istp, could someone help me out?
if I enjoy making my own universal theories about humanity, socity and related subjects and I reflect about it a lot, Which pair of cognitive functions is most likely in this case? I love to philosophize and having my own time alone. For example, imagine a future humanity or an idyllic or hypothetical humanity --> There is a huge amount of logical knowledge in those social scenarios in my head PS: My theories are not made by past experiences or past information. Generally i only need a vague idea of the given subject and I can already theorize and philosophize about it. Could it be Ni-Ti or Ni-Fi or even Ti-Si? Although sometimes (especially on theories or assumptions about a friend or acquaintance) I use past experience and previous information to theorize. Could it be an INTJ thing? or INFJ? or even INTP? Thanks Harry, like always. I'm learning a lot. Greetings from Uruguay
Hmm it sounds like Ti *may* be convergent, and your emphasis upon (and recognition of) the knowledge involved may make Ti dominance more likely than Ti auxiliary, but this may be more of a semantic preference. Sadly I can't say for certain with the current information. Cheers from the UK!
@@CognitivePersonalitylike you said: It's probably Ti Dom. INTP is very likely on me now that I watched the whole "personality type comparison" videos. Thanks a lot :)
Wow, I've never found such an in-depth video on these types. Thank you for sharing! I know this is a late comment, but I do have one question. In your ENTP INTJ comparison video, I believe you said that divergence takes precedence over convergence. Does that apply here with these two types? Also does that mean the INTP values Extroverted intuition and extroverted feeling over their dominant stack? Again, thank you so much! You're content is amazing.
The divergent functions are outside of the ego so are not more valued per se, but they do take precedence of attention when responding to the relevant stimuli. Thank you!
@@CognitivePersonality Oh ok. So is the relevant stimuli only external or do the divergent functions take precedence of attention over internal stimuli as well? Because I've heard some people say that for INTJ's their Fi is equal to their Te. Again thank you so much. Your videos are the best!
@@atelierstudios24 The convergent auxiliary (INTJ) Fi feels confident, and there can be the intimate knowledge stemming from the complete control in that area, but it is in a default state more easily changed than observed :)
Lately, I've been on r/mbti discussing the possible MBTI types for Shadow the Hedgehog back when he was good, like in the comics, the Sonic Adventure series, Sonic X, and Sonic '06. (I will ask the Cognitive Personality Theory subreddit later.) My first poll discussed whether he was an INFJ or an INTJ, and INTJ got more votes. However, after a user mentioned that Shadow reminded him of an ISTP character from another franchise, I posted a second poll discussing whether he's an ISTP or an INTJ-and ISTP got more upvotes. Could you perhaps explain why, and also provide a detailed guess?
When you called ISTP's the more "intuitive thinkers" I started preparing for a comment battle lol... but after listening to the entire video .. it seems our disagreements are almost purely a semantics issue. For example: Saying that an INTP is not an "intuitive thinker" bc they are pedantic and concerned with details seems ridiculous to me when phrased that way. Often the INTP is stubborn about details and unwilling to accept someones "bigger picture" bc they see how those details make that picture inaccurate.. not bc they are "sensing thinkers" obsessed with irrelevant details.
As you say, it may be a more semantic issue here as 'sensing-thinker' here implies someone who's 'primary' lens perceiving their Ti codec is specific rather than hollistic. The degree to which an INTP would be incapable of seeing a broader internal picture is proportionate to their Ni-dip, which of course varies from individual-to-individual. The nature of Ti-Si is seldom obsessed with 'irrelevant details' - the dialogue is simply more specific and attentive to individual discprepancy. I see what you did there. Cheers!
I feel like he is looking at intuition through what he knows, which is Ni. Somewhat disregarding Ne. Where, as an INTP, for me, Ne is the ultimate intuitive property. It’s what I know as intuition. It acknowledges the randomness and diversity of what is influencing the universe around us. It soaks in every angle. I learn a lot from Ni types but ultimately I perceive their biases. I am an intuitive thinker because I absorb multiple ideas and beliefs and test their logical framework. My ISTP mother will present only one possibility in an argument, will see one version of a persons intentions.
@@jimiweezer I do mention the Ne authority of the INTP in the video :) What I am discussing here is the thinking style, not the degree to which the types are intuitive as a whole. Ti is adjoined to the lens of the same orientation - yes the INTP is aware of the contingencies of the external world (Ne), but they examine these contingencies specifically. I do not agree with definitions of the INTP as being bombastic with their ideas - of course they like to explore their ideas, but more often than not do so with patience and healthy skepticism.
Cognitive Personality Theory just continuing to feel out your system. I understand cognitive functions based on coupling an introverted function with an extroverted function. And one function is judging and the other perceiving. While you couple introverted with introverted. I’m not disagreeing but I still don’t see it clearly. I believe that I am exploring through Ne, while judging with my Ti. And when I am using my inferior Fe, I am coupling it with my Si. Te with Ni. Se with Fi. It all makes sense to me that way.
Well I see a lot of both of these types in me, but I think I lean ISTP based on some of your descriptions. I’m still conflicted though cause I’m not sure if I’m right. Is there any questions to answer of anything like that which could help.
Well, I did a long comment critiquing your presentation, but it seems pointless, as you've pretty much established your content and mode of presentation. The main thing is your presentations and system are difficult to approach as-is. However, based on this specific video, it seems confirmatory that I am an INTP.
Trying to transcend the as-is to the proverbial could-be, but it's taking some time! At the very least it sounds like the video fulfilled its prime directive :)
Agreed, if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. I don't know if it's you're culture or region but you use a lot of large unnecessary words and speak very quickly making it difficult to process. It's like the episode of friends where Joey uses a thesaurus on every word of his speech.
@@bendadestroyer I agree with you. The first video that I watched from this author was interesting but I am now realizing that he adds confusion by his unclear and personal statements. Many persons can say woww this guy knows a lot, so it is easy to fool people
I find it funny how Si can be more sensory than the ISTP, especially in their ideation. If I had to guess, INTPs *generate* more ideas because of Ne's novelty-seeking nature, but often rely on past, concrete details to fuel these ideas while ISTPs generate less, but what few ideas they generate, it's wholely original? It certainly makes sense.
Yes INTP more ideas, ISTP more of a single universal synthesis!
@@CognitivePersonality in other words INTP create more ideas and istp just make one idea and go with it? Or did I get it wrong
ISTPs are probably the type to have the least amount of words to say in general lol. Actually insane how they struggle to come up with things on average. The one liner guy who never speaks in movies are a good portrait of them lol. Abstractly complex and language is not their thing.
@@mrjonjoe1895 Yeah, I find that NeSi types in general are way more pedantic in their language. Their POV, by nature, is panoramic, and is never settled for one view of reality.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 Kinda yeah, it's never enough thought process, really hold black on closing cases and sometimes making no definitive conclusions. Can be very useless too with detail and so on.
Another very insightful video Harry. I’ve been all over the place, but I seem to strongly resonate with your ISTP descriptions. The whole thing about taking an innovative approach towards things is very relatable. But your explanation of how the lower Ne usage may cause an ISTP to fail to see the short term consequences of their actions resonated very very strongly with me. Especially since you also mentioned that ISTPs do like to form long term future individual visions that they can lock on to. You’re right, some of this stuff does sound similar to INTJ descriptions. I would appreciate a “signs you’re not an ISTP” video.
You got your video, buddy!
I would really enjoy a more in depth video on istps. Many people avoid talking about sensors and ISTp's in general
That is very true. People favor intuitive types.
This is a really good look at the INTP & the ISTP type!!! Keep up the good work!!
Thank you as usual!
I was mistyped ENTP till I learned the functions. I always tested INTP, but never suited that type. Didn't suit the ESTP, either. After I ignored ISTP stereotypes and studied functions, I was able to tell the difference. I was always good at fixing things. Didn't care much about fixing my car. If I had a garage, I might. I built many computers and repaired them as side income, or just to help friends get into PC gaming. I should have assumed I was a Ti dom. I just figured what would a loner ENTP be doing, aside form thinking constantly. I knew my thinking was intuitive. I just like many looked at the letters. The letter system is a plague on MBTI. Functions are so much more efficient. I hope you make an ISTP video. You are the best on youtube. The bar isn't very high, though. Not to say I don't respect your intelligence. You are really in another league by yourself. If you know any others around your level, let me know. I will sub in case you make that ISTP video.
ISTP here wondering why i relate more to INTP more than my own personal type.
Hmm, the Se authority can lend the ISTP a certain pragmaticism that may relate to the specific scrutiny of the INTP
Lol I’m thinking the same thing and you have an anime profile picture so I’m guessing so noticed that all the “ISTP” in anime are edgy cool guys 😂 not laid back goofy intelligent people
Lol. Exact situation here.
I'm a clutzy, female ISTP with a master's degree. I present more like an INTP probably because when I grew up in the 70s-80s it was much more acceptable for me to be a book reader & study than to get boys toys even though they were cooler than dolls. I think like an ISTP though so I go with that.
@@cagal6437And the stereotypes don't really matter anyway. My brother is an ISTP. He's brutally smart. I'm an INTJ, I don't feel like a "mastermind" of much of anything. But my primary cognitive preference is definitely NiFi, and my thinking is definitely extraverted. Between us, he's able to just jump into something and get it. I can't do that. If it's something new for me, I need to research, research, and research again for quite a while before I feel comfortable even touching it.
I think I'm an INTP female. I always feel that I can read a room or understand individuals much better than most. Usually, INTPs are defined as being socially inept. I like your explanation of how INTPs use Fe. I wonder if you ever consider discussing gender differences in types.
I just found a related a video.
It's definitely something that can alter the way you "access" certain functions. Especially if you're a TP/J female surrounded by FP/J women all your life.
I'm an INTP and my father in law is an ISTP. This video cleared things up that i observed in the last 4 years. Amazing :)
I need more of this stuff. Subbed and curious to see more of CPT videos.
I think I took 5 or 6 different tests on various websites and I always got INTJ. And at first it made sense to me, but it never felt completely right. After doing more research I discovered I am for sure an ISTP.
If you'd like, could you do a video like this on the INTJ and the ISTP? I would love to see your vision on these two types.
So as an INTP, I can take advantage of my Ti-Si loop by developing good habits.. but problem is, I'm also a rebellious INTP so if I manipulate myself, my body will rebel.
Catch 22.
Somebody pleaaase give me the solution to this lol
Same. I really wonder what is it that makes us so rebellious? is the way we use the Fi?
To me, it was to the point where I once was doing a good habit spontaneously (without planning) and was enjoying doing it pretty regularly, and literally the moment I realised that: I was consistent with this 'good' habit so I should keep doing it, is also the moment I stopped doing that habit forever.
@@yuzan3607 therefore it is just an illusion. And since how we perceive habit is an illusion, we can reset our minds. Or just accept your perception of it has changed byt just remember that it's natural. That 'change' also happens to INTJs but for us it's the emotions. The moment we're subjected to routines suddenly we will feel something is off. Thanks to cognitive studies I recognize it now that it's normal. Even though moments like that happen, just logicize everything and continue on. Also, you might want to listen to Elon Musk. I believe he's INTP.
@@commontouch1787 I am INTJ and I can say he's not. Check his Twitter too aside from published articles about him. Also, just because he's successful doesn't mean he can't be another type lmao 😅
ISTP vs INFJ
Has to be done!
Done
@@chronotypeologythat video was so amazing and deep
Generally speaking
INTP - 🤓
ISTP - 😎
Just a joke btw!
What an amazing video, Harry! This gets personal, making me think about my brother (ISTP) and I (INTP). Never seen our types compared as insightfully as here.
I got INTP but on the test my s and n where pretty close. I feel as though do a lot of the stereotypical ISTP stuff. I’ve all ways enjoyed hands on stuff like drawing and wood working I listen to heavy metal and like drifting around I my car, basically I like hands on stuff but only if I enjoy it. For example I worked as a fork lift driver and went two years into cabinet making and fucking hated it. I’m now doing sociology and politics and uni and I find it super interesting I also sort of in-depth talks about specific thing’s like human nature and and political dialects, I like in depth conversations but only when I see it doing something intrinsically benefiting to people or society.
I also think a lot of the INTP community are a bit up themselves, like I wouldn’t call myself dumb but I’m not some uber genius and I don’t hate people who I may perceive as less intelligent, I think everyone has a particular skill set that will always find a useful application somewhere.
Who id the best...????
Intp or istp...
Do you spend more time doing things or daydreaming about doing things? Doing things -> ISTP. Daydreaming -> INTP.
@@Sudo4Life I often daydream trying to figure out how to do something... and if I'm really curious I'll try it right away....
@@Sudo4Life Idk the daydreaming comes after I do something, for example I’ll watch a movie or play a game, then Imagine a world for it or a scenario for it if that make sense. Also while I work on something whether it’s drawing or working on my computer or car I enjoy thinking about what I’m gonna do with it or how I could be doing it better.
@@antondeannova7016 I say I definitely live in my head quite a bit, but I enjoy building and learning new skills a lot as well.
Best description of these types I've heard. You know your stuff - istp
Just so impressed by your in-depth knowledge and how well you explain each type and their true differences. I've gotten ISTP, INFP and INTP in tests before (which I know isn't very accurate at telling your exact type) but it's lead me on a mission to find out what type I truly and am, but thanks to you I am understanding what type I think I am because you take a non-stereotypical approach so one can really get to know the type in and out. Also love how you explain that INTP's are very socially intelligent because it's often said that we are bad or even completely oblivious to understanding or being aware of people's feelings which has lead me to believe I was maybe an INFP after all, but being the INTP I am 99.9% sure I am, I kept reasearching and have found your channel extremely insightful! keep the incredible work up! Also I was wondering what you have studied in the past to become so knowledgeable? or if your knowledge comes from just a large interest in personality typing and not for example just a university degree?
Thanks so much! I was actually a musician before I created CPT - I did study Psychology pre-university but I formed CPT through independent research and my own case studies :)
I love these videos man, it makes much more sense for cognitive function to work together in pairs with same orientations rather than individually indulging in one function and trying to make sense out of it, that was confusing for me since yesterday, now I can truly say that I'm an ISTP, I've been interested in these personality theories for a while and only started yesterday to really try to understand everything and for what I remember on my journey to understand this concepts all of which I recall me using Ni + Ti, it truly blew my mind how all of these connected the time I got the eureka moment, this has made a breakthrough in understanding myself.
I took a personality test and got ISTP-T and I did feel like some things that it would describe was accurate but I think that some INTP traits are also accurate for me also so now I just have no clue if I’m ISTP or INTP
I hope the video was useful!
In the same situation
Same here.
Same
Why I am not really comfortable writing a comment, because I just wrote a whole sentence and then deleted it, cuz I was worried if my sentence I wrote is not really good and thinking a word to write.
Seriously I just rewrite my comment for 10 times
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After several months studying about MBTI, this video has given me the answer. I am ISTP. I am 100% sure.
Thank you for your great work and your effort with these videos !!! 😉
how can this be possible? jung said to know yourself is the hardest bet you can accept
I've always tested as an intp but recently after a lot of research im connecting more w istp.. its confusing but i think im more of an istp w intp tendencies
I think there is a lot of contradiction in MBTI. I'd be willing to bet a lot of INTPs mistype as ISTP, also. It isn't something that is talked about because of the obvious elitist mentality in MBTI.
This is something I read and seems to hold true. It is something I read that makes a lot of MBTI descriptions and stereotypes fall apart. Finding good information is difficult. Maybe many would miss this with their lack of holistic thinking.
The tertiary or “child” function is one that we often wield in a playful, exploratory, creative way. The tertiary function is often called the “relief” function by topologists and that's because we can enjoy using it to relax, calm down, and take the pressure off of our often overused dominant or auxiliary functions.
Applying that to a ISTPs Ni, a lot of the information out their falls apart. Most of the tests become completely useless. This INFJ is the first I seen talk about ISTP as holistic thinkers. Everywhere else doesn't. It is one missed detail that makes everything else fall apart. INFJs would be very holistic, too.
A lot of topologists will ignore when I talk about my favorite things involving Sci Fi. These things are my escape from reality. INTP would escape into the past. Find comfort in their routines. It is all something worth pondering. It doesn't serve me to say I am ISTP because of obvious prejudice. Through not being able to decide whether I am INTP or ISTP, I went back and forth a bit. I notice how I was treated. It is a bit annoying, especially with the Ni doms dealing with condescending undertones, when I am just trying to find truth.
I think once a person is condescending, you might as well end the conversation there. They already think they know it all.. Where as I don't think Ti doms ever really think that.
You are incredible!! Always love the depth of knowledge an INFJ can bring into the world. The connections are astounding... :) I am an ISFP here. I loved the video you made of the INFP x ISFP.( It was really some of the best breakdown I have ever heard/seen in my life! ) Any more detailed videos on ISFP would be extremely appreciated...even if it's about how to truly persevere with unconscious critical self thinking that the Te brings into the picture. I struggle a little with maintaining constant confidence and truly letting my power shine. I've experienced plenty of years of grip/and or looping with resistance toward Te and Ni. Although I must say it really changed me in a good way and set me on a better direction, regardless of how challenging it was to accept those shortcomings. Anyway keep up the Goodwork! Sending lots of love
Thank you so much! I definitely (definitely) want to make an in-depth ISFP video - I find the type truly fascinating!
Excellent! That would be magnificent...
I think the fact that I am constantly analyzing and fine-tuning the definitions of the functions and how I use them, and can never seem to settle on a type for myself, is likely me doing what I do, as an INTP, naturally.
I’m the same way. I’m constantly picking apart and hairsplitting the nuances between cognitive functions and trying to categorize myself which just ends up making me more confused…
@@danicalemon7500 I recently discovered that I am actually an INFP. My style of logic is actually more attached than detached. I use logic to explain who I am, instead of using logic for its own sake. I spend more of my time constantly evaluating things of value and what is right or wrong than I spend trying to make logical sense of things and frameworking in that way
@@HillyHonka that’s actually one of the types I was looking at for myself! I’m still struggling to quite identify what it is.. but hearing that makes me want to look into INFP more. Thanks!
@@danicalemon7500, when I discovered my true type, it hit me all at once. In a way, I was blind to my dominant function, because I used it so much and so naturally that I didn’t realize it was just who I am. It’s like a fish not realizing it’s in water
@@HillyHonka That’s awesome that you were able to do that! If you don’t mind, will you tell me some examples of how you realized you used attached logic vs detached? I’m leaning towards thinking mine is attached as well, as I use systems and quizzes to make sense of why I do the things I do..
wow, the concept of cognitive function is amazing. so istp is intuitive thinker, sensing feeler, whereas intp is actually sensing thinker and intuitive feeler. what an amazing concept. one thing that bother me is the fact that sensor can be strong intuitive, and instead intuitive type can be strong sensor based on the lens which they assigned to the codex, and especially their convergence pairing.
MBTI is a big mess, is all wrong! 🙀
In reality:
MBTI ISTJ = CPT INTP
MBTI INTJ = CPT ISTP
Leave it to an INTJ to be an excellent teacher. Thanks
-ISTP
When an INTP dips into their Fi, they’re also at the same time dipping into Ni from an Si position. If this is the case, wouldn’t they act like an ISFP when they are in love? Wouldn’t they try to express their emotions in a non-detail oriented way, such as an ISFP would? This is why many ISFPs are known to be artists, because their feelings (Fi-Ni) are way more plethoric and intuitive in nature, so painting or singing those feelings out is the best way to express themselves.
An INFP, on the other hand, would use a different medium, such as writing, to express their own emotions. Because the way they feel is through Fi-Si, which is more detail-oriented and can be captured with words.
In other words, when an INTP dips into their unconscious functions, they temporarily become a version of ISFPs, while an ISTP would temporarily become an INFP.
Am I correct on this?
In a general sense, you're absolutely spot on. I would add that the dip of any type is highly optional, and as such there is a greater level of control being exerted.
As such, even when an INTP does become more Fi-Ni, they would not necessarily become 'more ISFP', as the dialogue is more optional than it is a compulsion/cognitive habit :)
I generally relate to this. I oftne experience emotions impulsively and in waves instead of in incriments or boxes. To me, emotions are a fractal, a constantly repeating sequence that I try, but fail to rationalize, and I often end up just achetyping myself, often using role models unconciously. Often, I see a character or person i want to embody and I subconciously adapt their personality to fit whatever person I interact with as a sort of emotional heuristic way of predicting outcomes.
Thought I was an INFJ until I read the ITN-Sf behavioral description in the EBook. They are frighteningly similar types within CPT.
I had to go back to this video, and I was a tad shook.
Ahhhhh, interesting! Indeed an ITN-Sf with a healthy Fe relationship can absolutely be similar to the INT-Fs!
I was waiting for this video for so long, and I was not disappointed! I think this has been helpful, and I feel as though this has been the only video I've seen so far that goes beyond the trivialities that confuse everyone.
Thank you for saying this!
I found this video so useful I've saved it to a private playlist for later review and digestion. Thank you!
Nice video. I'm still up in the air between INTP or ISTP. More videos ISTP would be great.
Try to be aware of your behavior in a social environment, and your behavior with theories, scientific literature, etc. If you are more an intuitive feeler, you would probably be an INTP. If you are more a sensitive feeler you are probably an ISTP. Se is the authority function of the ISTP so if you are very aware of your enviornment, more pragmatic, good with the detailts right in front of you (in the present, specially in social settings) you are more likely an ISTP.
Ne is the authority function of the INTP that means INTPs see the world through a more intuitive look, looking for patterns, connections, specially in social settings. They see the big picture.
@@Abstractor21 Intuitive feeler vs sensitive feeler? Don't know how to tell. I'm pretty aware of my environment-geography, weather, and navigation have always interested and came natural to me. I do see the world through patterns and connections though always trying to make everything fit together into my own understanding/philosophy. Couldn't that Ni? Thanks for your response.
@@kevinvictor911 I think you are an ISTP. Maybe The intituive part is paired with Ti or Fi probably Ti. Or Maybe Te or Fe, it all depends of your holistic view.
Lets imagin these probably scenarios:
1) Looking for patterns in the present external world with external information (like scientific literature)
You use that information so you can make a theory using probably more scientific literature or to talk to other people about it or even implement that information in your life you could be an ENFP or ESTJ. The essence here is that you have a lot of Ne-Te or Te-Ne, Te works with external information, researches, books, articles on the internet, what people say about X or Y, etc --> You are more intuitive about external information, external theories.
2) Looking for patterns in your internal world (Ni) Using Fi. I do not think you are an Ni-Fi user because it envoles personal transformation, a future view of ourselves, the information that you obtain is really meaningful to you there is a lot of autotransformation here so you can even feel like you're "changing your skin" through time. INTJ or ISFP
3) Using Ni paired with Ti --> you seek patterns in your personal theories, well, actually Ni is more than that, your inner view is way more holistic than an Si, You're observing the big picture here, you see how everything connects with everything, you "feel" the essence of any personal theory and connect it with another or maybe you can dipp into Si and polish your theory adding more details. Ni gives you the power to really see behind the curtain in a personal theory for example. ISTP or INFJ. Remember ISTPs are way more pargamtic when they're using Ni-Ti, ISTPs don't thoerize too much, they are more connected with reality, with Se.
4) If you are actually an INTP you have a lot of Ti-Si you are a sensitive thinker. You have a large amount of information in your internal world mostly logical: scientific literature, definitions, metholodogies, etc. They do not question theories , definitions, concepts. They use all their knowledge for theory or metodology creation. Their own metodologies, their own creations, their own theroies, all thanks to Si. They observe patterns in past experiences, past information (basically concret information) , and then they generalize or create new theories. But they are not good at looking at the inner implications, the hidden meanings, etc of any given personal theory. Actually they quite good doing assumptions, contingencis, but only in a social environment.
My advice here is try to meditate and learn about other people specially friends (if you have, if not, learn about acquaintences). That would probably give you a wide view about the personalities and human cognition. Once you know a lot about the CPT: you meditate, you observe people behavior then you wait and you will notice you are way more different than the others (in a cognitive level). It will help you if your goal is to find your personlity type and mostly: yourself.
It's hard, i still don't know my type.
PS: Sorry about my bad english, im still learning. I'm from Uruguay (next to Argentina)
Thanks! Really informative and educational--the key of terms helps a ton for someone who is just beginning to dive into this subject.
Really great to hear :)
Good afternoon! Your channel is the best I've ever watched (on the topic of cognitive functions and MBTI in general).
And so I would like to ask questions that interest me. I'm not a native speaker, so I hope everything is readable.
1. Do loops and grips exist? How do they differ from the usual use of the 4th function or the first-tertiary? If so, can the concentration on aux function really help? Because I believe that for a long time I was in the ti-ni, when I spent a lot of time in the Internet environment. And when I pay attention to what is around now, my thoughts are clearer and I feel different. Mabe it`s not about loop but interesting.
+Can loop with different functions (not dom-tert) exist for some time?
2. Why is it said that a function develops at a certain age if we have all the functions from birth? I'm a teenager, and when I read about the development of tertiary function from 20 and fourth about 40, I almost didn't understand what it meant. Or development it`s just from 90 \ 10 frequency of use to 60 \ 40?
3. All healthy people have memory, feelings, can think, have senses, and so on. Regardless of the "place" of the function associated with these processes.
Is only the natural force of orientation determine the dom-aux?
Are these processes the foundation on which cognitive functions stand, or are they part of what are generally called cognitive functions?
And in general, the cognitive functions of the brain (of which there are many) are somehow related to the psychological functions of Jung?
4. What do you think about these "names" like "demon", "trickster" and so on. Is it true that it is better not to climb into these functions consciously? Why If the person does not change type still.
Why fi is called the istp demon, I even saw a table on which this function does not exist at all in istp😁. Why do people think so?
4. I saw a diagram "top types by IQ level", and as if under the ruler were first intuitives, and then sensors. I believe that intelligence does not depend on type. Maybe people of a certain type (ne, for example) will be easier in this regard, theories, schemes, etc.? And I still do not fully understand because I do not see correlations. It seems to me it depends on the person. How do you see the relationship between intelligence and type? Can ESFPs, for example, understand theories well? I think they can too, if they are interested (?)
5. I was wondering what that meant. Sometimes I want to get to a full understanding of a topic, and I didn't understand how thinking can displace feelings. It can analyze it, go over it, but we all feel it! Maybe it was about psychological processes force or I did not fully understand:
"Thinking, if it is to be real thinking and true to its own principle, must rigorously exclude feeling. This, of course, does not do away with the fact that there are individuals whose thinking and feeling are on the same level, both being of equal motive power for consciousness. But, in these cases there is also no question of a differentiated type, but merely of relatively undeveloped thinking and feeling. [“General Description of the Types,” CW 6, para 667.]
I've sometimes seen stereotypes about ISTP as insensitive, and I don't understand it at all, because feelings are important for me, it's just one side of my personality, and ti-dom doesn't affect the ability to feel at all. \I am very sensetive\ I`ve read that F should be distinguished from affect (emotion) - and then confused that there are feelings, because I believed that emotions are part of them.
6. What does "unhealthy" function mean? I read that unhealthy development of the dom\ and self-identification with the function (excessive)\ with the suppression of others by force leads to neurosis. But the suppressed functions still do not disappear... How to do prevention? Is there already a fine line between mental disorders? Do these stereotypes or jokes about (for example) the "animals" Se-doms (actually, it's not funny) or "adrenaline junkies" make sense when it comes to unhealthy use of features?
7. You, in my opinion, said something about the fact that istp have the risk of not thinking about the consequences of actions. If it concerns something dangerous, then on the contrary I want to be as careful as possible, as a child I already broke my arms and it taught me to be more careful. And if it's not associated with risk, thenI I just did not understand, sorry.
8. Do you believe in enneagram? I think it's a cool way to cognize yourself, but the fact that traits are innate and remain stable is questionable. And the fact that there should be only one number from some center, while we can all fall under different descriptions little by little (tritypes). I'm not so keen on this but still I'm confused and wanna know is it real and don't care much. Even if it's about the main motivation, can't it change? And is the eneagram related to MBTI at all? And in general all sorts of typologies such as socionics, the big five, psychosophy - can a person have different "by letters"? After all, I trust only cognitive functions and how processes that everyone representative type uses uniquely.
personalitycafe.com/threads/oldhams-personality-styles.2640/ especially this: why it should match? 🤨 On test I scored much as sensetive for instance and so on. It's more like frames.(?)
9. Is "living in the moment" related only to Se-users?
I will be grateful if you give an answer! Maybe here, maybe in a question-and-answer video.
My friend was mistyped as an INTP. I was an INTP, so I couldn't get my head around why he was so different.
He was also not sure what he wants to do/likes to do. He isn't really sure about anything in his thinking. Shows that he is more intuitive.
It was the time when used to think 16personalities was right. So I read ISTP description on it, and tried to relate him to ISTP characters. And apparently, he was more of a fit.
He does seem to be ISTP, more than an INTP.
The description of ISTP does remind me of my friend
Cool :)
Excellent explanation of the distinctions between INTP and ISTP under CPT. The more I pay attention to my own thought processes and preferences, the more thorough I believe CPT is compared to MBTI.
Thank you, it's great to see you here! Nice to hear the INTP is lining up :)
Why does this gives me the vibes of an ISTP explaining why they are better than INTP?
Wow, honestly amazing. Thank-you.
Only one suggestion for clarity sake, examples in real life situations, please.
Beginning to make such changes to my videos for sure!
@@CognitivePersonality Thank-you. Really I can't thank-you enough, your video on 4 types of Empathy may have just saved my sanity (or at least begin to) which is LIFE 💞 I'm currently binge watching the rest in the hopes of processing overnight. #grateful
Could you do ENTP VS ESTP next? I'm one of these two types but not sure which.
I want to do this one very soon for sure!
Generally speaking, ESTPs are very active in their environment. They often seek experiences, especially new ones, for the sake of it. ENTPs are less physically focused and more interested in new patterns and ideas for sake of it.
As a divergent ENFJ (albeit moving away from this subtype) I highly related to a lot of what you said about the ISTP. I do consider myself theoretically as a very innovative person albeit not a theorist per se like the INFJ. I enjoy synthesising seemingly unrelated abstract theories and coming up with something completely novel. As an ENFJ I'm working on my FeSe convergence in order to try & 'sell' these ideas to other people. Indeed I think this can be a real stumbling block for me - it's either my way or the high road doesn't really get me far in life; gotta develop those soft skills.
This explains why me(INTP) and my ISTP cousin can dissect a problem into small pieces (Ti, Si+Ni) and both react and relay it to other people by using Fe. We just resolved a huge conflict that is very much a ticking time bomb because of two Fi's clashing with their own values and feelings while who's proving their position louder than the other. His Fe is more developed than mine, so I let him handle the relaying while i use vague implications and 'wisdom' to mask my blunt nature
My understanding of Ti-En-Si is analyzing all possibilities to ensure and easily maintain a predictable, and steady outcome. On the other hand An Ti-Es-Ni would analyze all sensory input to determine the most effective strategy to employ for a desired/prized outcome.
The INTP works in chunks (Ti-Si) whereas the ISTP seeks to bring all values into a single cohesive narrative :)
I do the first one and I was typed as ISTP TiNi in CPT.
This is really helpful but I'm bit confused about the Te part
for example Once I wanted to make game, I had no Idea what kind of game I wanted to make then I had idea of a game where you can use finisher, after that I had whole big picture of how the game should be and then I started filling out the details. As I was making the game (in my head) I changed some part of the game along the way.
But once I wanted to learn photoshop manipulation but I learned more.
But I don't know Whether I made an big picture out of details or Made the big picture to fill the details.
and I also ignore details like name, age, years I'm only interested in main concept not who made it.
Have you ever thought about creating a shorthand for your five letter acronyms. Like ITN instead of ITN-(Sf), using the Ego block as a compact version of the full title (as the divergent stack is implied). Could you possibly do a video discussing the CPT acronyms?
You're right, this needs to happen! I have been struggling with the shorthand aspect as the authority function plays such a large role, but I hear you on the video front!
@@CognitivePersonality Maybe ITN-S or IT-S potentially
This is very interesting! I took the MBTI test around 12 times (a year ago), because I was never getting a single result, I was aways getting 3 of them: INTP, INTJ and ISTP. The first one didn't match with me at all because I felt it was too... structured? The second one was way too boring to me. I completely felt I matched with the ISTP but I was so confused as my results were always changing. With all the free time I have now with the quarantine, I decided to try this test again and I finally got ISTP 3 times in a row. So, when you say ISTP can easly be mistyped as INTP and INTJ makes complete sense. I'm happy to know I was not going crazy in my mind =)
Thank you! Indeed this is so often the case - the idea of typing someone entirely based on how they respond to questions on an online test seems redundant to me.
Hah, yes, the ISTP is comparatively more bombastic than the more cautious INTJ. Sounds like you've arrived closer to an answer - good news :)
Thorough. When juxtaposed with the multitude of behavioral-focused mbti videos on YT, this one is like the body of the Hydra
Love this analogy.
@@CognitivePersonality Good of you to say. I do, for the record, enjoy all those behavioral-focused channels; sometimes, though, they seem like many branches swaying in the wind. As an intp masquerading as an istp (lol), I enjoy getting to the root.
My assumption is that INTP finds their answers within while ISTP relay's on external references in order to find an answer.
morals, ethics, values etc
I've been waiting on this one :). Hope you are doing well, Harry.
Thank you, hope it doesn't disappoint!
As with many I'm not 100%, but keeping the ball rolling :)
@@CognitivePersonality Hang in there, man. You're a gift to the community.
On a side note, I'm really starting to lean ISTP. I'll probably be hitting you up for typing soon to confirm.
Wholisticly socially intelligent, but not at precise pinpointed level like reading a person's emotional needs... or the atmosphere or harmony in a small group of people, it's a more broad scale (getting a sense of the atmosphere...) well depending on how strong is the Ne and how strong is the Se and does it dip in it and how strongly can it dip in it, I think the stronger the Ne is the larger the view and reading of the emotional harmony... (and other things that Fe does in this position) is gonna be
(Talking about INTPs)
Wow! Very clear comparison thank you very much. Looking forward to more videos from you.
More to come!
Thank you for your deep dive into the topic - good job! 👍😊
Oh, okay. This is starting to make sense.
seems accurate though i reflexively felt in my heart not being the real intuitive thinker was a downgrade. :p i do tend steal my temporary identities from infj's when i'm dandying about. first video of yours i watched i was like, "ah a blonde, blue eyed brit with that inferior se stare - it's david bowie!" good content. keep it up!
I am not worthy of such a comparison!
Hah, Intuition is in my opinion completely overrated ;)
I have noticed a distinct tendancy of mine, assuming I bypass my blind spot Se in favor of Te-Ne, that whenever I'm doing a job for my dad, an ESTJ, I usually just bumble about the room hazily until he tells me to interact woth a specific object or device. You could compare it to sleep walking around the room, despjte being fully aware of the situation(is you could call it that, lol.) My lack of efficiency paired with my half-asleep perception of the world kind of form a perfect storm. Would you say that's a decent manifestation of blind spot Se and unconcious Te?
I am still not sure. Not sure if the burnout or the depression might be affecting me or I might not be either type
Such decisions can often only be made absent such burnout :)
I've had a similar burnout. What I thought was an Ne PoLR/blindness was actually just Si exherting too much infuence.
As a mature intp - (definitely into) I don’t recognise your intp descriptions of the internal workings at all. I am big picture and here for innovation and real change. Very challenging to status quo and implementing shifts towards the big picture vision and strategy with values at the core…. Shrugs listening
He's not saying they're not innovative after all they're Ne authority types, he's saying that they do this incrementally via TiSi convergence. Have you thought about getting typed professionally? I'd highly recommend CPT
Genius.
I think I'll have to go with IxNP for now and the I'm at a point where I'm biased between the two since I tend to think in both ways Se and Ne. I think a lot of it has to do with my ADD (ADHD-i) since it's considered a sensory seeking disorder. This personality does seem often mistyped so maybe I just need to keep doing research and looking inward.
The dominant cognitive functions in first place among the two types are Ti and Ni, not Ne and Se. Ne and Se are in second place in cognitive functions.
Which type would be least likely to follow along and almost have no clue what you just said?
Can you use examples of how each type would act in real life?
Either/or, and, yes real-life examples would be appropriate!
Probably INFP
I'm listening but I'm not listening. I come in and out of consciousness.
Now I'm again stuck, I'm an istp or an intj
You should maybe watch the 5 signs you're noy an intj video
So intuivetely predict what is gonna happen (in a social context)
(INTPs)
I absolutely love your videos Cognitive Personality Theory. Honestly, I really can't express how much I am grateful for your content. Amazing human being you are. However, I notice you do experiment with the way you do your videos, which only makes sense. I would just like to give my thoughts on perhaps slowing the pace of the videos down just a LITTLE TAD :D I love you, man. I do pause and think during them and I understand you wish to make them as concise as possible but I do feel like some of the editing can be just a little too lightning quick for the viewers to fully interpret what you are saying :) Much love, Sean
Thanks Sean! Yes, definitely working on the speed thing :)
Can you go further into the INTJ-ISTP dynamic (similarities/differences) ?
Actually this is a video I've intended to make for a while!
Please! I can’t wait for that. I’ve always felt that these two types had a lot more in common that it’s usually assumed and this video just proved it
Hello Harry,
I think I am an INTP. But, for some reason, I also relate to all of your INFJ videos. When I was younger, I used to score as an INTP in all of MBTI tests, however now, I almost always score as an INFP, which made me re-think whether I'm really an INTP, I became more interested in the cognitive functions instead. I'm mainly considering (INFP, INFJ, ISTP, INTJ)
After learning the cognitive functions of the INFPs and INTJs, I'm pretty sure I am neither, I'm also quite sure I am not an ISTP (from this video). However I'm still not sure if I am an INFJ with a strong Ti, thinking they're an INTP. When you were talking about mistyped INFJs you didn't mention INTPs at all, so it seems it's not common that INTPs mistype as INFJs or vice versa even though the cognitive functions are pretty similar. Is there a way to easily distinguish the two?
INTPs tend to rely less on generalisations, and can observe and interact with larger groups than is typical of an INFJ. They also have a more clipped speech style and internally analyse in a more careful fashion :)
I've learned that INTPs often work w3oth a mental auto-correct. If they make a heuristic generalization, they immediatley start incrementally piecing detailed arguments to correct themselves because Ti and Si is more preferable than Ti and Ni. ISTPs are often unaware of their smaller frameworks, and often syngergize all mechanical skills into an ideal or understanding. This is how they can interact woth the world so flawlessly, their frameworks are to amorphus, that they adapt to external specifics.
ISTPs do more while thinking about less, as all external compartments are synergized into one. They have little in the way of specific habits and are very bombastic, causing them to see little besides external compartments and boxes. Essentially, they have the lroblem of living in their own present world, unaware of anything outside of their external cubical and only living in the moment.
INTPs think more, but do less. Their internal specifics are all blended into chains of external causality and possibility, and the puter world gets so complex and fractal-like that they slip into old habits to escape. This is why they are more cautious than ISTPs, and why they can have trouble coordinating actions and external compartments to fit a vision or ideal.
Can't Ti and Ne work toghether??
I know this might seem counter intuitive - but you could do INTP vs INFJ? I keep finding myself pulled between these two types.
This has been requested a bit so it likely shall be done!
Superb content!
Great content! Lots of insight. Subbed. - ENFJ
Si serving Ti for the INTP
ISPT vs INFP please. It's very curious to me since I've switched from the latter to the former. I don't know if it's because of some influences I've naturally adapted or me telling myself to be open.
That's an unusual request but I'll take it on board!
Same here. I used to always type as an infp but all of a sudden in the last few months i keep getting istp
Can you do a comparison between INTJ and ISTP?
My husband and I ...
He is INTJ and I'm ISTP.
Absolutely!
Hey Harry! The more I "dive into" CPT the more I need to ask You a question - Do You consider "quadras"* as usefull/worth using distinction? Myself, I find in usefull in day to day typing of people around me but still I wonder how You relate to this idea.
*By quadra I mean types that have the same functions in main stack, for example: INTP/ISFJ/ENTP/ESFJ (all of them have Fe-Ti/Si-Ne in main stack).
In a manner of speaking, they are useful - all types within a quadra have the 'style' of thought and perception (S-T and N-F in this instance), but there is also a convergent/divergent split which doesn't exactly lend itself to cooperation. For example, an INFJ and ISTP often have a completely different agenda to the ENFJ and ESTP :)
Is that why as an INTP, nothing ever feels quite finished enough? Because it can always be tweaked more?
Literally been looking for this for ages I get on the normal mbti istp and on other intp I can’t decide which one I am lol
I can't tell which one I truly am..
Sameeeeeee
Your knowledge and understanding is so valued, thanks for sharing! I wonder if and how the cognitive functions of the ISTP can explain how their memory functions? Do you have any explanation to how an ISTP can paint all memories black and remember only the negatives, as if they never had positive emotions and never chose to do what they did in their life? Expressing they never loved their partner and even can't remember being infatuated, even though they clearly were and expressed a lot of positive emotions and love back then, and during the relationship, until it's all just dark. How is this possible? I can see there must be some black-and white thinking going on. But it's hard not to get confused and ask yourself if your whole life was a lie, when they always seemed so honest and sincere during the relationship, and the picture they are painting by the end is one that sounds like it must have been different life and relationship to the one you have lived with them.
Firstly, ISTPs see the world in a very concrete way, they are not emotional feelers who add sentimentality to situations. Secondly. ISTPs are problem-solvers and tend to focus on the "negatives" more than the positives because the positives don't need solving.
Se-Fe are good at living in the moment, so in relationships ISTPs don't really feel in-depth, but more so in superficialities. Ti-Ni are where depth exists for the ISTPs and both of those functions together only care about the total picture. So, having no sentimentality to most relationships combined with the ability to see things as what they are affects the memory by mainly remembering what was really significant to them which is usually the flaws. After all, to limit problems in any system involves looking at those problems as something to be solved in order to perfect future systems/relationships.
Sorry, it's just that English is not my first language, but I don't quite understand what he means by "Bombastic in nature" when describing the istp, could someone help me out?
Could you possibly do ISTP/INFJ my friend and I haven’t found much from a non stereotypical perspective
if I enjoy making my own universal theories about humanity, socity and related subjects and I reflect about it a lot, Which pair of cognitive functions is most likely in this case? I love to philosophize and having my own time alone. For example, imagine a future humanity or an idyllic or hypothetical humanity --> There is a huge amount of logical knowledge in those social scenarios in my head
PS: My theories are not made by past experiences or past information. Generally i only need a vague idea of the given subject and I can already theorize and philosophize about it. Could it be Ni-Ti or Ni-Fi or even Ti-Si? Although sometimes (especially on theories or assumptions about a friend or acquaintance) I use past experience and previous information to theorize. Could it be an INTJ thing? or INFJ? or even INTP?
Thanks Harry, like always. I'm learning a lot. Greetings from Uruguay
Hmm it sounds like Ti *may* be convergent, and your emphasis upon (and recognition of) the knowledge involved may make Ti dominance more likely than Ti auxiliary, but this may be more of a semantic preference. Sadly I can't say for certain with the current information.
Cheers from the UK!
@@CognitivePersonalitylike you said: It's probably Ti Dom. INTP is very likely on me now that I watched the whole "personality type comparison" videos.
Thanks a lot :)
I've gotten results for both, so... yeah. I think I'm more INTP after this.
I got INTP-T and then took a focused test and turns out I am 53% INTP-T and 47% ISTP-T.
Ya I feel istps as an isfp just in a different way, but it is similar.
Wow you've arrived at some truths there
Intp phlegmatic dominant Sanguine secondary
Istp phlegmatic dominant choleric secondary
Can you do a video on ISTP vs ISFP
Wow, I've never found such an in-depth video on these types. Thank you for sharing!
I know this is a late comment, but I do have one question. In your ENTP INTJ comparison video, I believe you said that divergence takes precedence over convergence. Does that apply here with these two types? Also does that mean the INTP values Extroverted intuition and extroverted feeling over their dominant stack?
Again, thank you so much! You're content is amazing.
The divergent functions are outside of the ego so are not more valued per se, but they do take precedence of attention when responding to the relevant stimuli. Thank you!
@@CognitivePersonality Oh ok. So is the relevant stimuli only external or do the divergent functions take precedence of attention over internal stimuli as well? Because I've heard some people say that for INTJ's their Fi is equal to their Te. Again thank you so much. Your videos are the best!
@@atelierstudios24 The convergent auxiliary (INTJ) Fi feels confident, and there can be the intimate knowledge stemming from the complete control in that area, but it is in a default state more easily changed than observed :)
@@CognitivePersonality Ok, thank you again!
You seem to have met my parents.
Haha :D
Lately, I've been on r/mbti discussing the possible MBTI types for Shadow the Hedgehog back when he was good, like in the comics, the Sonic Adventure series, Sonic X, and Sonic '06. (I will ask the Cognitive Personality Theory subreddit later.)
My first poll discussed whether he was an INFJ or an INTJ, and INTJ got more votes.
However, after a user mentioned that Shadow reminded him of an ISTP character from another franchise, I posted a second poll discussing whether he's an ISTP or an INTJ-and ISTP got more upvotes.
Could you perhaps explain why, and also provide a detailed guess?
stereotyping. Don't trust reddit.
From 13:25 to 13:38 I think it's true (that is just my opinion)
can u give more examples next time )X like a scenario and how they react etc
Examples are top of the agenda!
Yes, more concrete examples please because I had a hard time figuring cognitive theories look like in real life-istp
... this was English, right?
I....huh. I thought I was intelligent until I started listening to you. I feel like I need a doctorate to simply keep up.
I just saw on your phrasing and how you have to think before you speak I thought you are an infj haha :D
Hehe :D
Can you help me...???. I am confused whether I am an intp / istp person please give me a test in the form of questions...
When you called ISTP's the more "intuitive thinkers" I started preparing for a comment battle lol... but after listening to the entire video .. it seems our disagreements are almost purely a semantics issue. For example: Saying that an INTP is not an "intuitive thinker" bc they are pedantic and concerned with details seems ridiculous to me when phrased that way. Often the INTP is stubborn about details and unwilling to accept someones "bigger picture" bc they see how those details make that picture inaccurate.. not bc they are "sensing thinkers" obsessed with irrelevant details.
The details of what you say seem to be mostly acceptable though :) well done
As you say, it may be a more semantic issue here as 'sensing-thinker' here implies someone who's 'primary' lens perceiving their Ti codec is specific rather than hollistic. The degree to which an INTP would be incapable of seeing a broader internal picture is proportionate to their Ni-dip, which of course varies from individual-to-individual.
The nature of Ti-Si is seldom obsessed with 'irrelevant details' - the dialogue is simply more specific and attentive to individual discprepancy.
I see what you did there. Cheers!
I feel like he is looking at intuition through what he knows, which is Ni. Somewhat disregarding Ne. Where, as an INTP, for me, Ne is the ultimate intuitive property. It’s what I know as intuition. It acknowledges the randomness and diversity of what is influencing the universe around us. It soaks in every angle. I learn a lot from Ni types but ultimately I perceive their biases. I am an intuitive thinker because I absorb multiple ideas and beliefs and test their logical framework. My ISTP mother will present only one possibility in an argument, will see one version of a persons intentions.
@@jimiweezer I do mention the Ne authority of the INTP in the video :)
What I am discussing here is the thinking style, not the degree to which the types are intuitive as a whole. Ti is adjoined to the lens of the same orientation - yes the INTP is aware of the contingencies of the external world (Ne), but they examine these contingencies specifically.
I do not agree with definitions of the INTP as being bombastic with their ideas - of course they like to explore their ideas, but more often than not do so with patience and healthy skepticism.
Cognitive Personality Theory just continuing to feel out your system. I understand cognitive functions based on coupling an introverted function with an extroverted function. And one function is judging and the other perceiving. While you couple introverted with introverted. I’m not disagreeing but I still don’t see it clearly. I believe that I am exploring through Ne, while judging with my Ti. And when I am using my inferior Fe, I am coupling it with my Si. Te with Ni. Se with Fi. It all makes sense to me that way.
thank you - i think i'm an istp
Well I see a lot of both of these types in me, but I think I lean ISTP based on some of your descriptions. I’m still conflicted though cause I’m not sure if I’m right. Is there any questions to answer of anything like that which could help.
Check out my type service if you need more clarification :)
Please do INTP vs INTJ...
Well, I did a long comment critiquing your presentation, but it seems pointless, as you've pretty much established your content and mode of presentation. The main thing is your presentations and system are difficult to approach as-is. However, based on this specific video, it seems confirmatory that I am an INTP.
Trying to transcend the as-is to the proverbial could-be, but it's taking some time!
At the very least it sounds like the video fulfilled its prime directive :)
Agreed, if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. I don't know if it's you're culture or region but you use a lot of large unnecessary words and speak very quickly making it difficult to process. It's like the episode of friends where Joey uses a thesaurus on every word of his speech.
@@bendadestroyer I agree with you. The first video that I watched from this author was interesting but I am now realizing that he adds confusion by his unclear and personal statements. Many persons can say woww this guy knows a lot, so it is easy to fool people
I really love your videos, no question, but you should work on the articulation and the speaking pace. I watch your videos on speed 0.75. :D
Agreed! :)
Can you do an INTP and ISFJ comparison pretty please? They have the same cognitive functions, just in different orders.
Oooh yes maybe!
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Literally every video be about this topic sounds like the people are talking in a completely foreign language ..what does that say about my type?
Intp phlegmatic introvert dominant and Sanguine extrovert secondary
Istp phlegmatic introvert dominant and choleric extrovert secondary