The INFP vs INTP in 10 Minutes
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- A time-effective comparison between the INFP and INTP personality types - check out the longer in-depth version here: • INFP vs INTP - Type Co...
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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.
Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.
I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.
Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.
Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.
Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.
Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.
Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.
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Thank God you didn’t immediately associate Feeling with emotions. I’m an INFP and most people don’t get Fi is every bit as concerned with analysis and consistency as Ti
The Thinking vs Feeling dichotomy in general is a source of irritation to me - the idea that some types rationalise less than others is simply untrue.
@@CognitivePersonality Perhaps "some types rationalise less than others" isn't the best way to say that some types "use data points that are not optimal for their rationale when forming opinions, due to their cognitive preferences."
@@yourhuckleberry7790 Sure, but I seldom see 'Feelers' do this more than 'Thinkers', and both types seem equally succeptible to cognitive bias :)
@@CognitivePersonality Every type is susceptible to function bias, yes.. but a high Ti user (biased or not) will naturally "rationalize" with more plausibility ( even if it is unnecessary).. While high Fi naturally favors subjective criteria when forming opinions (whether it's appropriate or not). So, I am of the opinion that "front stack" Ti (especially the top 2 slots) are indeed naturally better at "rationalization" as it is normally defined.. I don't really think of it in terms of ""thinkers" and "feelers".. maybe it's just a semantics issue :).
As an intuitive Fi user, I analyze emotions (both my own and those of others) like a Ti user might analyze systems. Emotions are completely logical, rational, predictable and understandable to me. There is cause and affect, action and reaction at play with emotions. The field of psychology is a science dedicated to understanding and classifying human behavior. If emotions/behaviors were not able to be rationalized, there wouldn't be well defined categories of behavior pathologies, or even systems like MBTI that provide a framework for understanding the role of cognitive functions (all of the above, which has supportive evidence in preliminary studies in the field of neuroscience). I have never understood why emotions are considered illogical. Once you observe a person's emotional reactions long enough, and in enough settings, it becomes possible to predict fairly accurately how they will react to and feel about various situations. That is to say emotional patterns can be observed and those patterns can be used to predict future outcomes. I agree with the content creator's theory that Fi and Ti are the same function on a continuous spectrum. Assuming that premise is true, and that rationalization uses the Fi-Ti spectrum, I would posit that one of the big differences between INFP and INTP is what holds our interest most, and therefore what kinds of information we prefer to spend the most amount of time rationalizing/analyzing. For many INFP's, somewhere in our development, an interest in human emotions, behavior, psychology, sociology, morality, spirituality, etcetera, gets sparked. In INTP's, many develop an interest in physics, astronomy, theoretical sciences, etcetera. There is plenty of crossover of interests since it is spectrum, and as we develop our weaker functions, our interests expand. Also, INFP's can be extremely logical and objective as long as they don't have personal stake in the outcome, and INTP's can be emotional despite their lack of awareness of their emotions. That being said, INFP's feel and attach a personal stake to many more subjects than INTP's do, and INTP's with well developed Fe might be better able to remain calm in a debate and therefore appear more "rational".
When I tell people I’m INFP they are usually really confused because I approach life quite analytically. They don’t see me as emotional a lot because I keep my emotions to myself mostly...
I’m a teacher for Ethics and I love philosophy for combining language and structure. Your channel provides useful knowledge and no superfluous blubbering - thank God!
Thank you for this comment!
i feel like im either emotional intp or infp like i cant tell i get high fi and high ti on everything doesnt help that i also have autism and adhd so my autism just looks like ti to anyone that types me
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Same tho! I can't tell if I'm using Ti or Fi 😭
@@bethanysingsmrs849 I am exactly the same! AuDHD and been struggling for years to type myself. I always test right in the middle for T/F and sometimes I fall on the side of INTP & sometimes INFP. I’ve been binging these videos to try to understand but I relate to all of it!
I'm an INTP with a good INFP friend, and we're both each other's best advisors
That's awesome :)
My closest siblings are intps they are so kind and empathetic. ❤
You know you're an INxP if you zones out for a few minutes but still understood what he said.
analysis was so good that I think I'm having an existential crisis
Heh
What an awesome video. Your CPT makes the most sense to me. I'm an INFP, but sometimes second guess and recently have wondered if I could possibly be INTP. This made it clear that I'm NOT INTP. This was such an Aha moment. I could relate so much to the way you described the INFP functions-- the INFP being a holistic thinker & specific concrete feeler vs INTP being a holistic feeler and specific concrete thinker. This makes so much sense! I see the world so objectively, that it could seem cold or detached to others. (which sometimes made me doubt being a dominant feeler) But when it's my personal experience, I'm very detailed in understanding and expressing. I place a lot of value in other people's personal experiences and can empathize deeply...but then I can zoom way out and just look at and seek to understand the world, society, people in very objective way- try to understand how it all works. Trying to understand how specific mechanical or non-human things work...my brain doesn't compute well.... I'm glad there's other people for that.
Ahhh perfect, I'm so pleased the video provided that final bit of clarity for you! This does sound IFS-Nt (INFP) to me :)
Cheers for the kind words, as usual!
We are abstract thinkers! Enjoy!
As an INTP married to an INFP I can assure you INFPs get their feelings hurt (especially from criticsim) far easier than INTPs do, who analyze criticisms logically as to whether they are true or not more than taking offense to them.
Plus INTPs don't consciously experience being offended nearly as often :)
That's my answer then. INFP lol
My god, that's so true. I can get offended, but that's typically after a lot of prodding or built up emotion and frustration. Compared to my INFP mom, a supposed INTP like me often offends her a lot by accident. When cerebrally helping her out, she can get pretty overemotional and preachy, despite her normally sweet and laid back nature. I can be a little harsh and sharp with my criticisms of some of her ideas, so I also contribute to the problem. It's something I think we understand and actively try to control. Either way, INFPs are very fascinating creatures IMO. It's always fun trying to pin down and label their emorphus Fi thought process if they are open to it.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 my momma is an ENFP. I'm more sensitive than her lmao. It seems like that the most sensitive and lazy person that I know is me. I value logic but if I get criticized I usually take it personally and think very irrationality. I have to fix that
I get my deseased teacher now. That she easily take things personally. I like harmony. I knew the teacher would d** soon, so I try to be nice to her and prayed that she will go to heaven. I'm an atheist now and I regretted lowering my faith. Because I've realized that much of Conscientiousness came from religion. And that Conscientiousness is a good thing for success, for getting my ideal life, a boring but usual and the convenient one. But, a low Conscientiousness, high Neuroticism, and high Openness I think really make the chance of getting out of a religion higher
Just to add my two cents: Fi is applying logic or a rational analysis to values and we find our safe haven in *Axiology* whereas Ti might find it's haven in *Epistemology* .
I think Axiology is more so what an INFP is doing, and you can rationally observe values without emotion. You really understand INFPs. I get very frustrated with all the tinkerbell INFP stereotypes.
I like it!
oh yeaaah, and i feel like INFPs and INTPs could do boths but from differents angles
Are you an INFP yourself?
I'm very new to the in-depth side of MBTI types (specifically all the functions), and I am *very* sleep deprived, but from the ideas and topics I did understand from your video, I am reassured that I am an INFP. It's just I've felt like I've never fit into the 'overly emotional' and 'irrational' stereotypes of INFP, and as someone who's very meh at writing, and most art forms, and HORRIBLE at music, (and generally very interested and talented at math and science, or seems to be a very analytical person), I questioned my type. But, this video helped me flesh some things out.
Great to hear :)
Now that’s a video that actually makes sense. I like what you said about that fi and ti are just polar ends to each other. That’s how I also saw it as both functions are quite analytical and tend to function the same way but they just focus on different values. Introverted feeling at the end is a form of thinking. That was a nice explanation it warmed my heart :D. Your vocabulary is quite hard to grasp on as English is not my native language but I mean hey, expanding my English vocabulary and studying a new concept at the same time, what can be more fun than this? Thanks from an INFP.
I think , I’m discovering that I am a INFP. And i hate that because I had thought I’m a INTP . For All my life I belived that i was a thinking person ; a person that did not have feelings or emotions. When i was a child i was terrified for being hurt , so I repressed my emotions for do not feel anything. Through many years of terapy and iner work , I rediscovered my feelings. At the same time ,I had a strong existencial and career crisis . I change enginering and Science for art . But i feel that i was incomplete, i feel that i needed to understand the very core of something. Later, I engaged in the Philosophy career , I desired that carrer for so long , but I’m realizing that my aim is to understand the human nature, because I need to find the meaning of the human life . However, the philosophy of today is (several times) constrained to pure logical thinking , and the human soul have a dificult place ; and that frustrates me. Sometimes I’m very confused because i like logical thinking , and i’m good at it (especially good) , but since i had my existencial crisis ( and maybe before) i began to understand the limitations of the logical thinking alone. That’s my story haha , I hate to think that I’m a INFP because that confuse me again haha . I have read in “Building blockd of personality “ of Leona Haas that introverted Feeling has not strictly related to emotions , a Fi people don’t must be a emotional persons. What do you think INFP friends? Sorry for my weird english. Greetings from Mexico .
As an intp, i always relate to Fi as well, but i just uncertain about my own feeling, identity, value they're just not specific. And when i think about something it has to be detached and specific.
I think the source of your confusion is your perceived definition thinking/logical and feeling is not actually the same with Ti and Fi and their interaction in cognitive function explained in the video.
@@yustinussetyoyuniarto4816 Fi is used by INTJ ... maybe you're mistyped ...
As an INFP, I want to thank you so much for making these videos. A lot things make sense to me now and it's because of the content you make.
I can now say pretty much for certain that I'm a naive and empathetically challenged INTP.
It's a journey for us all!
I think I am both INFP and INTP........ F#*%. Sometimes I read people like book and see what everyone is thinking. And other times my own emotions overwhelm me so I start to separate and self analyze and go through a process and logical thinking to figure out why do I feel like this. No wonder I sometimes feel like I got a war going on in my head.
I have taken the test many times and only got infp, yet when I read both profiles both applied. Equally.
I do offer a type service for these trickier situations but otherwise definitely check out my longer INFP vs INTP comparison too!
I feel exactly the same way!! And funnily enough when I take Myers-Briggs test in my native laguage I get INTP result and when in english I get INFP xD And my feeling/thinking score is always around the middle lol
You sound a lot like me. Did you find out what you are? It might help me decide.
You should try Dr Peterson's test. It focuses more on the details giving a much more clear picture if you are unsure.
THIS! Oh boy, this!
This explains so much! Thank you!
When looking into the cognitive functions I'm really missing the discussion on how they interact with each other.
Especially when the usual, isolated descriptions do nothing to explain why you might be outside the norm of a given type - or even that you might NOT be outside the norm, it's just that those sides are never really talked about.
Because of that it's been hard to determine whether I'm really an INFP or might be an ISFJ, but the more I look into it, the more points to INFP.
There's a lot more I could say, but I'll just stop here before I turn this comment into an essay.
Great video, it really helped clear things up. And thank you again.
My pleasure - glad it helped! :)
I greatly appreciate how you distill a specific codec function and lens function into a concept that can be easily grasped
(i.e. Ne + Te = "holistic thinker with an external gaze"). You continue to help me learn, and that's one of my favorite things! ^_^
Thanks, Harry :D
Thank you my friend!
Denial of feelings in INTP: agreed. Feeling is 80% of the playing field; INTPs shoot themselves in the foot when they refuse to factor in the subjectivity that's inherent to their own humanity. A balanced personality would make use of both sides of the spectrum, with a preference labelled by their "type", but without overindulging either side (this applies to every measure really).
Yes, very well put!
I’m still not sure about myself.
On one hand, on almost all online tests i score INFP, and I think I definitely have Ne Si as auxiliary and tertiary.
But I’m still not sure about my dominant function. When I make decisions I don’t consciously analyze the outcomes like Ti, and I don’t constantly weigh things with my own internal systems. But at the same time, I don’t consciously have this internal “moral compass” that I stand up for like the Fi stereotype, and am more relaxed with rules if I feel like they don’t make sense.
I’m pretty sensitive and am aware if my emotions, but I almost never freely express them unless I’m with people I trust/am close to. Also, I’m not sure if I value Individuality as much as people say Fi doms do. I recognize that I am unique and all but I am able to suppress my identity to fit in or make a good impression.
As for my inferior function, I’m not sure between Fe(intp) or Te(infp). I think I’m pretty weak with both, but I think I’m m worse at getting things done than helping someone deal with their feelings. I’m super lazy and I always procrastinate and that is one of my weaknesses, but I’m also very socially aware and have trouble knowing what to do in difficult social situations
Bottom line: I know intps tend not to mistype as Infps but I relate to both types! Help me please
Hey is there a chance that we are the same person?? Literally the same things i've been saying.
As it turns out, I've also been saying the exact same thing. If anybody can help us, please do hahaha
I don't think you are an INFP.
Ok, I gotta admit. You're making a convincing case for how to interpret the dynamics between the functions. Think me be needing to loose some sleeping tonight
I always say that there's Fi logic and Ti logic, and both can be highly systematized - I appreciate that you give both of these concepts the in-depth credit they deserve; my own experience-based understanding can tend to take on a cynical flavor, but people need an optimistic understanding if they are going to give other types the chance that they need to grow and communicate effectively
Thanks Priscilla! Yes indeed, I try and create as balanced a portrayal as I can of all types and definitely feel this can not only reinvigorate said optimism but also make people more willing to accept their true type :)
Axiology vs Epistemology
The type discovery of which-one-over-shadows-the-other 🌥️
They seem to each have their own evaluative style, but Ti perhaps more detached from opinion 😳
@@obscurellepriscillatopin7506 Or they believe it is detached
@@_VISION. hehehe
I think that I'm INFP but there has always been one thing of my internal world that seems to not match the standard INFPs descriptions: I love mathematics and physics. This video was very useful to me because I have always doubt being INFP for this reason and you are the first person that I hear stating that INFPs and hard science are compatible. Indeed, I think that I love physics as a deep vocation to understand the esistential reasons of the universe itself. I love searching for the "Truth" of everything. I dont feel myself as an INTP altough mathmatics and physics are usually associated to INTPs due to their intrinsic "thinking" nature. Surely my way of experiencing maths and physics in my mind Is based on logical thinking, but the reason why i do that is "feeling" oriented. Any other INFPs who really love physics and math reading this comment?
Huge difference between INTPs & INFPs that I see all the time in online gaming: The INTP is the true geek who knows every single mechanic like the back of their hand, is always crunching numbers of experience, damage, and so on to gain any sort of advantage in their preferred mode of gameplay (PvE or PvP), while the INFP is the one who is much more invested in their character(s) and the lore of the game, and probably plays a healer class & absolutely hates PvP.
This is such a callout for me (INTP) and my best friend (INFP). I'll have my spreadsheets out maximizing builds and damage and account growth and she'll just spend hours running around with her favorite character lmao
@@kyraimi7337 help the infp one with her character is actually so cute lol
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The infp is me 😶
@@kyraimi7337 I'M THE INFP
Pretty sure I am INFP. Everything pretty much tracks except I never really choose healer. But that makes sense because why be a healer in PvE unless in a party? If I end up in one of those, it’s usually luck lol
The website told me i was intp and i've struggled between intp and infp for months now because the explanations of intps feel more right but the memes and stereotypes of infp fall closer to home and i basically fall into a loop where i'm convinced to be intp for a while then i'm sure to be infp for a bit and so on
This video is very helpful. I’m not a very emotional person and being interested in technology and objectivity kind of biases me towards the INTP crowd, but reading more I can relate to both INFP and INTP. I will see if with age hopefully my personality matures
I remember you mentioning in your ISFP vs INFP video about how INFPs have a very good amount of Si accuracy of their Fi. It honestly perplexed me as to why I didn't quite relate to that. As much as I relate to your descriptions of Ne-Si, and as much as I have personal feelings about things, I often sacrifice those out of a fear of not being accepted by the tribe. I don't really care about sports, but I stay because I wanna make my dad proud, that kinda thing. On top of that, when I read your descriptions of each function in the descriptions of your videos, it all started connecting. Maybe I'm actually an INTP with weird opposing Fe?
It makes sense, the pinpoint subjective accuracy of my logic, my sheer desire to add onto it, and the fear of details and judgment from others that I face when overly-stressed. I really like your description of INTPs being very socially intelligent, yet not being able to express it easily. This reaches me on a personal level, as well as the broad, almost interconnected views of the moral and emotional realm. It is t that I'm unaware of my feelings, I just sometimes HAVE to sacrifice my internal harmony for the sake of others. Or maybe I just have an overactive imagination, and I really am an Fi user. But the general "unemotional robot" stereotype of the INTP, I wouldn't doubt that it plays a role in my skepticism.
An INFP wouldn't necessary have an 'objectively quantifiable' perception of their Fi, but would still experience specific emotions very intensely with some level of pinpointing occurring relative to Si aptitude. That being said, INTP is quite possible :)
I was able to understand this much better than the longer version; thanks for having both!
Nice! Holistic thinking I love it. I totally think thats the right expression for it.
Cheers!
Wow. Just wow. That's it. I thought about this thing for so long but couldn't really shape my theories adequately.
I always had this deep desire to make sense out of world, to rationalize it, prefering to detach from my feelings, while I was in fact painfully aware of them. And then I just learned how to rationalize them as well. And this made me think that I cannot be this "emo artsy dumbass infp". Intp (stereotypes) was mostly on point, ti was mostly on point, and yet, I would still keep asking "just why am I this awfully sensitive with a mind this sharp?".
This part about infp's thinking process being reliant on a sense of existential importance is on point. This part about wanting to share this importance is on point. Honestly, it's hilarious - I never really enjoyed using my thinking capacities, I always thought I was simply cursed with this mind that suffers deeply from a lack of sense. This mind is entirely human, this thinking process is entirely human.
Damn... This community is so full of disinformation... It sucks.
I love ur channel but I kinda wish u used more examples things get a bit overwhelming in parts.
Definitely gotta work on examples :)
I do agree there is a misconception that intp doesn't feel. We do feel but sadly it can be neglected either by our own determination to de-value or predisposition. I use the analogy of an EQ on 80's boom box, the signal of bass is there but the frequency is lowered in volume, I might not have the clarity or the fidelity of someone who is Fi. I definitely like the idea that you brought up about being caught in a vicious loop, the hurt feelings are so personal that we exact those feelings personally with no remorse. I chose to be detached because it is so cringe to engage in Fe. What Fe feels to me is like wearing the itchiest wool sweater, can you understand my ill anxiety?
Loving the EQ analogy! Haha, yes in some instances convergent employment of Fe can be uncomfortable :)
Hello Harry !
My oh my ! As an INFP with an INTP partner I must say that you gave an incredibly accurate description of both cognitions imo.
We both enjoy physics, but my husband always teases me, saying I'm not a "true scientist". He really likes to understand it for the sake of it, where I love the metaphysics behind it, and teaching it!
I'm going to have to ponder on the last part of the video : I can totally see the INTP struggle occuring, yet, I seem too blinded to see my own type's. Something to *~think~* about 🤔😉😆
Cheers !
Claire
Thanks so much Claire, this is great to hear!
Heh, I think that might be the case when applying these things to ourselves but, naturally, the last points only apply to those with a suppressed oppositional function :)
wait im intp but interested in the metaphysics aspect of physics??????
Omg, how could you explain infp intp as distinct as it sounds? Thanks a lot for the video.
Infp concrete feeler, holistic thinker
Intp concrete thinker, holistic feeler
Infp use fi as start point, then Ti as extended thinking. It means infp more attached logic and vice versa
What a brilliant concept. My amazement actually show my intp type ain't it? Since i amazed by detached logic, which the concept itself is clear. Haha.
I'm starting to think cognitive functions is really complex😅😅
Pretty complex, but as soon as you understand one you understand its opposite :)
Thank you for this video. I had a strong suspicion that my Fi and Fe were pulling the strings on my behaviors and cogitations more than INTP stereotypes would have me believe. Your theory here ties in nicely with Dr. Lisa Barrett's theory in her book "How Emotions are Made". Cheers.
Some interesting work there! From what I gather she seems to discuss how labelling of emotions, and expectations of certain emotional state in certain contexts, creates a resonance loop that can prevent more subtle emotional variation. Very interesting!
I learned about you from a CSJ chat group. And I'm glad I did. Your perspectives are very detailed and scientific. And you have alot room to grow. Although I find the constant changing slides distracting where I have to look away from the video to watch you, similar to the guy in the Love Lu channel. It gives the impressive that can't share a thought process without constantly breaking it up with the help of technology. Where CSJ has the opposite issue of including bathroom breaks in his videos without editing it at all. Which I think as funny. In 5 years from now I think you and CSJ will be the biggest TH-cam typologists out there. Because both of you are the best I've seen. And complement each other although I'm sure have your differences, which is the norm in typology. And you both are better than your competitions for different reasons. So keep up the good work. I'll keep watching.
I truly appreciate these words of support, and for your interactions with the channel thus far!
Definitely want to make the videos more freeflowing in time :)
I hope you're right - as you say, there is much room for growth but I am keen to continue pushing further!
@@CognitivePersonality Biggest thing you need to do is make a half hour to one hour introductory video on each of the 16 types. Then they will start popping up on TH-cam video searches like crazy. And start numbering or organizing your episodes and have them all on your website. Anyway if you are patient you will keep succeeding. Note: You will truly take off if you can explain Socionics to everyone, with your own commentary (both agreeing and disagreeing), from A to Z. You will have your own corner in the typology world if you can do it. If you don't I may have to do myself someday. But as a background INTP type I'd rather not. (I've read alot on Socionics theorists, but only the tip of the iceberg because there is so much there. I wish someone can combine it with MBTI and give it the simple name "Jungian typology." Also don't hesitate to borrow from Linda Barren's interaction styles. They are pretty useful.
Dude put some subtitles, you talk fast and you have a pronounced accent. Thanks in advance. (I also talk fast, by the way, so not judging)
Heh, I honestly thought I was talking slower in this video but perhaps I was wrong :)
@@CognitivePersonality Again, not criticism It's just I am very interested in what you have to say in detail. And sometimes I can't understand you, so subtitles would be a great help. You are making excellent content keep it up!
Select the playback speed at 0.75x. He has a non American accent but by no means is it foreign to the English language. He is definitely a fast talker. Pair that with not the greatest enunciation and it becomes difficult to discern certain words at first listen. I had to rewind a couple of times. Having said that, it is great content and he should definitely keep it up.
I put on subtitles as I couldn't keep up! 😄 I'm rewatching as I didn't take it all in the first time :)
I have a tendency to talk fast like this when I have given something a lot of thought and have reached a definitive conclusion. I get so excited when I’m explaining what I have found to others that I talk very fast. When you are doing this in a social environment it is easier to gauge your audience by their reactions to your presentation, therefor you are able to adjust your speech. However, it is harder to be aware of this while presenting your message over a virtual medium.
I have to admit, for your videos, I slow down the PlaybackSpeed!
Your content is jammed packed with information.
If I want to understand clearly, I must also take notes.
I’m still unsure of my personality type.
Feel like a mixed bag depending on environment, circumstances, etc.
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What am i fell INFP or INTP
1.I feel too much guilt for talking about or sharing my feelings or thought.
2. I feel like an impostor or an intruder when i am with my friends.
3.When i am in social events i feel that i am being judged,for being there,by other attendants of the events.
I appreciate you not showing our types as one dimensional. I'm an INTP that has been told I was strange for being a Christian as faith goes beyond logic. This is funny as there is an INTP in my church who has a doctorate in systematic theology. I'm also confused by the belief that INTPs aren't emotional. My feelings are often provoked through my Si child as music, nostalgia, tradition and other idealistic tugs at my heartstring can make me cry or move me strongly What differentiates the types isn't whether we think or feel, but our primary motivations and system of decoding the world. As someone that loves the INFP type there is one primary difference that has kept me from relationship with them. Ne in INTPs considers possibilities to inform our logic. In INFPs Ne informs their Fi and sees many possible motivations in people. Their mood can play a big part in whether they lean toward their optimistic "visions" or cynical ones towards me. When trying to flesh out my true motives I would explain my logic and often, because we translate life so different my views wouldn't ring true and sound like excuses for our natural differences and I would get the cynical side until I lost interest in trying or she cut me off.
Let's throw everything out the window 😂 both of them are fascinating listeners. One sympathetic it seems -> (infp) and intp is helping understand logically. Both caring. I seem to draw them out emotionally. From my infj experience.
I'm gonna make my kid a T-shirt that says "INTP: I tinker therefore I am" 😂
If abstract tinkering was a sport, my kid would make it all the way to the Olympics.
Totally right :)
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Yeah, the only way I can understand Ti and try to improve it is through my Fi, and if Fi ethically values logic, that is a good starting point to improve it as they are both judging functions.
I cannot take the human element out of it, but my son can as an INTP. He often takes things apart just to understand them on a personal level, how they work and how to put them back together. If it doesn't serve a greater purpose for me, I don't really value that. He seems to want to understand it just for the sake of understanding it, but for me, without connecting that understanding to some type of greater human element/purpose, I don't see the point too much. I want to know if it will make things better/more efficient in the real world too, but I think this is also Te for me.
We can both be quilty of losing a lot of time to things and having no clue where it went, but for me, it's generally lost to research and being high consume that way, and for him it's from tinkering. I hate tinkering lol.
I'll ask him why he's doing it and he doesn't seem to know other than the fact that its interesting and he personally just wants to know how it works.
Haha that's another, more practical difference between the two types. I find it all so fascinating!
i wish i didn't know about MBTI
It can be a rabbit hole!
This was a great surprise to hear yesterday, but you're killing me waiting for the sequel to the "How to Find Your Personality Type" video. Last night I went through your Cognitive Functions & Personality 4 Part series, and I'm currently listening to your "INFP vs INFJ-Knowing the Difference" video. Thanks again and God bless!
Wonderful, this is great to hear! I'll be filming the next part soon :)
I tend to do extreme analysis to determine the “best” thing often but have difficulty verbalizing my reasoning to my significant other (ISFJ) who just wants me to get to the point and doesn’t care about the extreme effort put in and just want’s me to get to the point. LoL
My career has always been infra or technical support pretty much and I’ve found I am generally more happy when I am in an environment where I can apply my technical knowledge to help people- however this can fall apart when I have not internalized the technical system due to lack of documentation or training. I can get really stressed out in this scenario because I despise conflict -especially when I am the perceived “source”. (The actual source being insufficient documentation of the system or some weird bug in the system.)
I am genuinely caring for my family and friends I think, and tend to put others before my own needs in a reactive sense at least.
I also tend to feel super passionate about my favorite music, and have been told I can write well - so it put me at odds with the conventional definition of INTP.
To add to that I’ve felt I have had fairly sharp perception of others and expected outcomes.
So, with that background I have always not been exactly sure what type I am. However, even if I still don’t know quite yet, your theory has put me at ease, since I now know that if I am an INFP, it’s possible to think, and if I am an INTP, it’s possible to feel. It’s OK! Type is not a cage bound by a simplistic definition. ^_^
Thanks for sharing your ideas!
Damn I've been trying to explain this Ti-Fi nearness for years, when i shoulda just been linking this.
Thank you. That was fascinating and has reaffirmed for me that I am an INTP.
Glad it was helpful!
Completely nailed it. Thank you so MUCH
Your videos are really informative and I always learn something new. Really exciting!
Thank you as usual!
@@CognitivePersonality do you know of objective personality or Dave superpowers? And if so what are your thoughts on his attempt of breaking down personality into a scientific method. I think it's really good in trying to clear people's heads of misconceptions that 16 personalities left behind. I'm actually grateful of coming across channels like yours and his to have a more precise and clearer understanding of cognitive functions.
@@JJ-io9ms I love their intentions and some of the traits they have identified I have identified myself within CPT! However, I have had clients who had been typed by OP and received very questionable results - the only way I could reconcile these results with reality was to assume OP has radically different definitions of the cognitive functions.
In this instance they are not wrong, but rather using the same lexicon to refer to completely different variables. I refer back to my 'The Problem With The Cognitive Functions' video :)
I'm INTP and my fiance is INFP. She and I are awesome.
Yes! Fantastic!
@@CognitivePersonality THANK YOU, GOOD SIR!! HOPE YOU'RE HAVING AN AWESOME DAY!
Ngl this video is easier to process than others, thank you
Very well explained, do you plan on making a video comparing INTP & INFJ ?🙂💝
Definitely on the list :)
I really like how you connected and really showed the link between Fi-Te/Ti-Se. It always made no sense to me why my Te was inferior, i felt that my abstract thinking skills were probably the most developed of my skills due to the environment I grew up in, very science based. But my thinking is definitely more open to change and largely shaped by others' observations rather than my own. I'm less certain about the feeling part - is it possible for someone to have a underdeveloped dominant function?
Btw, i really related to an INFP trait about being attached to the logic, in the 5 signs your not an INFP video. Is that part of accessing Ti through Fi?
Thank you. This finally makes my system make sense.
Love Your channel, most of the time I speed up videos, but on Your channel I need to slow down sometimes :D Tip from filmmaker - improve Your audio :)
Hah, cheers - I slowed down a bit for this video but it's an ongoing process for sure!
Thanks for the audio tip too!
Yes, yes, yes, yes - everything about this video!
Haha, thank you!
I had looked this up as my results revealed that I was INTP but pretty much 50/50 on the Fi and Ti (1% diff). I still struggle to understand what the difference is.. perhaps because I relate to both 🤔 I also got almost 50/50 extrovert-introvert, but I understand that as I do swing between the two!
Alas tests aren't going to help in this regard. Hope the video provided clarity!
@@CognitivePersonality It did, thank you 🌹
After the second time I watched 😉 (you do speak fast!)
This helps me a lot! Thank you sir!
As an INTP, I feel called out by the misanthropic tendencies bit x'D Great content as usual, listened at x1.25 speed, thanks for sharing !
Ive taken it 4 times over 6 years. Results have alternated on/off between infp and intp. The F and T swing back and forth by like 1 to 3 percent. 48/52 then 53/47 percent in F And T.
This mans speaking a diff language
Can you variate from INFP to INTP? I feel like sometimes I'm more FP than TP, and viceverse.
Example of holistic and specific thinker ?
Holistic feeler and specific feeler ?
Is it possible to be driven by Fi function as a child and by Ti function as an adult? I usually get MBTI test between INTP and INFP. I am most likely INTP but I am not sure if it was like that all the time ...
Absolutely, more common in Thinking auxiliaries like the ESFP & INFJ :)
Not in terms of dominant functions though, this is the primary gateway and will remain constant.
Thanks for the video, I think that I’m going to research more on INTP's
No problem, hope it helped!
I’m autistic and I scored INTP and I can agree I have found myself observing social interactions rather than participating in them. I don’t agree I have the highest of social intelligences for obvious reasons. I can agree with the rest of it though, after all there are more than 16 different people in the world lol
I took the myersbriggs test (the official version) and came almost dead in the middle of T and F.
I think I am slightly more feeling
Would be helpful if you could transcribe in the subtitles cuz it's hard to understand what your saying, and the auto-generated subtitles be talking about "the island of peace" and about introverted Sam saying something about my omelette function lol
INTJ or INTP next please
It's coming up!
It is good to appease the Te inferior since they are mostly portrayed as not very strong enough in the thinking area. But I beg to differ, this theory is nowhere near the truth. I have debated some INFPs, i certainly know their Fi is different, very very different from my Fe, let alone Ti. But anyways, even ESFPs are analytical.
INFP's Te is not anywhere near to Ti, let alone their Fi. Fi is very attuned to values whilè for INTP, Fi is their blindspot, they are barely aware of subjective moral and tend to see it as ridiculous and overly dramatic.
However, INTPs do make decisions based on Fe at times, but these decisions will be filtered out by Ti. If it makes sense, keep going. If not, let's choose the most logical way.
Ne is what makes the INFP appear to be analytical and overthinking, but all their thinking is in tune with their values, while an INTP wîll set aside even his self worth in favor of what is logical (Ti), for the greater good (Fe).
Btw, I think you have Fe, this video is full of Fe flavor.
Haha, yes I do have Fe!
Ti being different in the INFP has little to do with the extent to which they employ it. The degree to which a dip function is employed is of course relevant to the individual.
Interestingly, your third paragraph indicates less disagreement that your former paragraphs implied, as the INFP thought process as attuned to their values expresses exactly what I said in this video: INFPs employ Ti *through* Fi.
What model do you use? Because I've never heard people talk about the cognitive functions the way you do. I've heard other models basically, and I'd like to understand your's better, but I think I lack the basics of your model.
I do recommend checking out the CPT eBook, as it acts as a stepping stone from MBTI to CPT. Definitely check out my CPT Explained series too!
it is cool to see how many couples of friends are INTP/INFP I wanted to meet an INTP since i discovered they exist xD
One of the things that occurred to me while pondering this and previous videos (among other things), is how absolutely sensitive the oppositional function is. It's almost like the dominant function is actually *less strong* in that the volume of conscious chatter in the dominant is quieter and therefore easier to shift through.
Your system is quite Taoist in the concept of mutual arising divergence/convergence that continually sorts itself based on current attitude. Was that an influence on your theory or did you come to that through your own understanding?
Yes, I very much agree. Suppressed or otherwise the oppositional function has a huge effect upon the cognitions of the dominant stack, and whether directly or indirectly is always a driving force on some level.
Actually, yes, Taoism has had an influence on the system and, more generally, my approach to life as a whole! While I arrive at conclusions emperically there is often a parralel with the taoistic perspective :)
@@CognitivePersonality aha! I assumed correctly. Taoism has been a great influence on me as well.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm an INTP in ISTP clothes or visa versa. I've always instinctively and internally understood and worked with very broad and profound multiapplicative frameworks (music, philosophy, martial arts, etc) and vastly prefer them over more discreet and specific systems. Paradox is extremely enjoyable.
@@MrRalteria I actually posit the ISTP as the true 'intuitive thinker' of the pair!
@@CognitivePersonality curious to hear why istp would be more intuitive thinking.
Are you saying infp's can use intraverted thinking? I was hoping that, when I was studying the phenomenon of the schwarzschild radius occurring within neutron stars as they increase in density, that I was using my intraverted feeling. I'm like, my intraverted feeling is smart as f***
As an INFP I think I have been naive in the past, but I can detect danger. How do I overcome this?
No matter how many test or videos I do or see.
I still can't figure if I'm T or F.
Sometimes I think I finally solved and then I feel uncomfortable and I say to myself This is not me.
Because I have ADHD and parent issues I'm not sure if I'm INFP with intp lifestyle.
Or a broken INTP unable to find happiness or hold my emotions.
My results are always INTP but now I get to know I am far away from INTP may be I am INFP
Ok I dont think I can do the infp stuff like understanding complicated systems or instructions, like is that just my autism not understanding instructions because all the time instructions go over my head
well done : ) had to back it up a little a few times to properly take it all in but it struck me as very sound.
i dont even understand this stuff anymore, i tried to figure this out for 8 years adn never could ig i just dont have the brain for it
Yet another great video!!!-an Intp
Question: the INTP can dip into Fi - Ni // Se-Te more easily than other type right ? Maybe we can say the INTP sometimes is more like an ISFP, correct me if I'm wrong Harry, see you c:
That's right!
@@CognitivePersonality Sorry i wrote this comment twice. Anyway, thanks for answering
The more I try to understand thinking vs feeling, the more confused I become. Most explanations, including this one, seem to present these functions in terms of consuming and processing information, ie perceiving. Whereas I thought T & F were about evaluating and decision making? So how is T a different function than N?
I am glad am an INFP ❤.
You make sense. Thanks :)
Great video. I was curious about intp in your divergent convergent dichotomy.
I'm curious how Se works for ISTP cause I think I'm ISTP. Ti Ni makes sense.
I think I understand how your system works now besides Se Fe
so it is like, the INTP knowing Fe existence, understand how it works, and being so counssiencius about it, make them feel they cant just fake it, i imagine the intp looking at a party and saying "well, i dont think so" or "you know, that is relative" so how are they going to pretend being in the game theu arent? it is what happen with observing people, also i think may having Ti concreate, idk how to explain it, but like understanding more in a sistematicway the Fe and saying "my Ti have this concrete idea about you being unnecesarilly atached to this" like seeing things from far, so they can judge better, the disconnecting that occurs when you see things from a high perspective .
the same but opposite with the INFP, just that they are more like "well, that scheduelle is blind and nonsense" and all what i put with the INTP
so you can see how INFP would feel dumb following x thing when they know(as the INTP from their own value of things) it doesnt have any point.
also it make sense that that everyone says, INFPs being more able to fake Fe. and tell my if i am wron bc idk if i have understand that partvery well, but it is bc(i think) t
even if it is not the priory, they feel the pressure of the social well being bc they value it, i think they are capable of seeing it from far, but tdk how to explain it xD please help ithink ypu see my point, like INTP understand the Fe and can feel anxious about having to deal with it, like they are not in to it(not physically nor near to heart) but they could work with it bc they get it, analizing it, using Fi and all that.
so you could say INFPs are more dumb about it, they dont feel heart distanced so you are putting them on a difficult situation where thay have to develop something with this, it is so funny, bc they have a response just bc they are more confused. i mean INTPs would feel bad bc tjey dont have a response at all and they may feel like freak bugs, what ever the two of them end feeling social inept xD and the one who seems more social inept is may not wanting to be a freak bu faking things, like that is akward socialy.
idrk, it is all my suposse
it is interesanting bc this is how observing works, i fricking love it. also sorry about my english
And yet I relate to both.
ah hell I could literally be either one, I mean I do not like the idea of someone changing my routine, which is music, so music is more about feeling, and I used someone else's structure to produce my own. So it's not like I am thinking outside the box, am I in tune with my emotions? what are emotions even....I love to explore them alone, I think....I am not above them, but I guess the idea that I don't feel very confident in mechanical decision makes sense as well. I mean, if you get it narrowed down to these two, does it even matter?
So is an infp or intp more likely to be confused which one of these he is. I do the tests and either get intp or infp so i still dont know which I am
Can you switch from one to the other as you grow up? I always used to get intp when I took personality quizzes when i was a teen and now i always get infp or isfp occasionally.
Hi, can someone explain "values" to me? Since they are subjective i always think they can be anything like unethical.
Is this induced misanthropic attitude really due to repressed and undiagnosed emotions orrrrr medium to low expectations not being met lol. Seriously though great video.
Cheers :)
True unfortunately says this INTP. At least I have some sense now of how or why people offend as i don't see how clear my feelings show whe I think they have no idea. Does that make sense even/
I dont know if quarantine made me more of a Ti user. Can it effect it?
But why we INFPs prefer to follow the systems of others? Why is that? 😭
When you say Ti ans Fi are polar ends of a continuom what are you saying exactly? What is the continoum? Shouln't it be esier to understand them by trying to see the symilarities and differences between the two?
The problem with presenting them as binary extremes is that they become caricatures of functions rather than representations of the reality. Ti is objective internal frameworking, yet we form emotional attachment to our frameworks, whereas the subjective frameworking of Fi constantly overlaps with objective framework in order to framework values :)
Is it possible to communicate with you outside of this commentary section? I would much like to have your opinion on which type I am. I think this could be a life changing experience for me...
I offer a type service for this very reason - you can find information on the three tiers on my website (link on the channel page!) :)
Feel free to shoot me an email if you just have a few questions though!
3:29 Ni
For the interest of it I done a MBTI test and the results were INFP-T, does this indicate I am just confused OR that its just not Black or White but many shades of Grey ?!?
There are many shades of grey, but not in terms of %. No INFP will be the same as the other, but will still be an INFP :)
@@CognitivePersonality Thank you for the reply !! That is good to know, as I do seem to relate to a few types EG INFP, INFT and maybe some INFJ !!
Again Thanks !!!
I came to this video a little unsure but now I'm really confused 😕