Destiny 2 - Hard Light (Updated Review)
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What alternate reality are we in when Hardlight is meta and people calling for nerfs?
I rember in d1 when it was such a meme for so trash, now I'm getting squad wiped by it in trials
The worst timeline. Or the best. Depends on your perspective.
Reminds me of the alternate reality we were thrown into in d1 where No Land Beyond was meta.
@@gravity8120 no land beyond was always good to be fair.
@@Chew1ee yup
Love to see that your back, kinda perfect timing considering everyone’s at home in quarantine
Agreed welcome back Holtzman
BALDSKI
Remember the first one when he made that short clip of it firing to darude sandstorm? The song constantly plays in my head whenever i see the gun.
www.myinstants.com/instant/darude-sandstorm/
i’m forever sad that i can’t find it anymore
th-cam.com/video/NJgdFryX1q8/w-d-xo.html this one? lol
Same, that's all I remember
The one thing I would change about Hard Light:
Holding the reload button pulls up a small Tri-corn style menu of the three elemental symbols around your reticle and pressing a d-pad direction or MnK (1,2,3) chooses the corresponding element. I would make the same adjustment to Borealis.
what if...just what if...
when switch different element using hard light you can also switch between anti-barrier rounds/overload rounds/unstoppable rounds? isnt that be perfectly perfect
sounds overpowered
Elvar Þór it’s pve, nothing can be overpowered
@@SuperSigite I mean, that's technically not true...
How about elemental capacitor, not for subclass element, but for hard light element
cry w it’s absolutely true, you’re playing against A.I. who the fuck cares if you melt a raid boss in 30 seconds, this game is a joke anymore anyway since they refuse to put good weapons in endgame content
Anomaly + Trials + Hardlight = pain
anomaly should've never came back
John Titor agreed
Definitely one of the most waited on reviews I've been waiting for. Thanks Patrick. We both have been waiting on them to finally fix the Shake. Cheers!
If its going to get a nerf it has to be the stability\ recoil and aim assist the gun itself i.e the unique perks are not the main problem its just its stats, btw to most people it doesn't cause more flinch than other auto rifles is probably cause we haven't got shot by one for so long we forgot what the flinch felt
YESSSS!, THAT IS THE ANSWER!
Or because even when landing first shots on an enemy with Hardlight, I still lose the fight because it’s time to kill is absolutely insane.
@@TheNikolaos the ttk is .7 or so right? How is that ridiculous? Other 600 auto rifles can do the same.
kenkashi501 150 handcannons have a 0.80 ttk
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I just did about 9 matches total from survival and rumble and it was a laser light show
Dang Patrick it so good to here your reviews again. Keep up the awesome work
Good shit. Happy to see your popping up again.
After it gets nerfed can we call it "Soft Light"?
No we need to keep the halo reference
@@marranin007
I always thought of it as a Red Dwarf reference.
@@Draliseth i mean, eh, bungie made halo, and hard light is a halo lore thing
Datto has 24:02, Fallout has shotgun testing... is the hard light Patrick’s thing?
aztecross
I say reduce damage, suros dose less damage then a normal adaptive frame to compensate for suros legacy. With no damage falloff it should slightly less damage then adaptive frame
Bungie: Make Auto rifles more competitive in crucible
Spare Rations: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LITERALLY the first time autos have been at least dominant in the crucible, since year 1 season 1 let it happen
I agree
Uhhh no
@@legendinvoker found the spare rations user
Autos arent broken, hard light is
D1 suros meta, then doctrine. D2 Uriel’s now every auto, “ literally” is incorrect
ok so i think suros doesnt feel as awful to play against for one main reason: you cant fire indefintely without a care in the world. its reload is reasonably long and the magazine isnt massive. with that in mind, i think they could reduce the amount of flinch slightly, reduce the magazine size a decent bit, slow the reload and tone the damage a small bit down and then i think it would feel fine to have in the game. defintly dont want to see it neutered but it needs toning 100% imo. cool video glad to see you back :)
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First off... welcome back! As a community we’ve been missing your reviews and insights and it is fantastic to have them back.
Second... you’re excused for type of review this is. I like you have been wanting to use this gun for 6 years and finally it is possible to use it! You captured how many of us are feeling towards this.
Third... oh yeah, Nerf incoming! Please bungie don’t go overboard and destroy this weapon like sooooo many others.
Lol - I was waiting for THIS review 😂
Can’t wait for Destiny Cycle with any fun weapon where it comes out, people notice it’s really good, everyone uses it, people complain, gets nerfed, and then almost no one uses it and repeat
Been using it in gambit a lot. It’s bananas.
This video might tip me over into joining the masses.
Patrick is the best 😂 I love that you do your own thing
He's back nice
*VOMETS AT HARD LIGHT SPEED*
love it. favorite gun.
how do you get the catalyst for hard light? i was unaware it even had one
This is one of the last energy exotics I don't have yet.
The only bad thing is that xur is selling it randomly so u can get it one week but then another week there will be a different gun
I've waited a long time for this weapon to finally be good haha.
Out of curiosity what program do you use that makes your fps counter white?
Hard light is probably a reference to halo, bungie's previous game.
One of if not my favourite gun in destiny , usto have a lot of fun with it year one and there is a bunch of funny stuff you can do with it like intentionally bouncing bullets into mobs and around corners in pvp
I've loved this since I got it in D1, but (don't send assassins) add a small screen shake back and make ricochet rounds do 1.5x instead of 2x in PVP. (And make the element stick to the one you chose until you change).
The screen shake made me feel like it really was "volatile light", although it was waaay to much before.
And I miss the way the bullets looked in D1, now they're not unique anymore.
Despite that, really like that I can use Hard Light and Suros again. Auto rifles are my favourites !
Destiny 2 season of the laser tag
If they put screen shake back I swear imma flip out
That an OGW sheet in the background?
Thumbs up for me just because of the mention of Pappy. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I feel like the screen shake buff should have been added a long time ago and maybe add the others buffs depending on how good it is but now it’s just the best auto rifle (on PC) on console it’s been reduced but it has a special recoil pattern that makes it inconsistent on console. It’s partially why I switched to PC because both recoil and recoil direction on PC is much more tame when compared to console. Hardlight on PC only goes up with slightly different heights while on console it still random goes up, diagonal right, or diagonal left with no consistency of which direction it chooses to go. Cross play isn’t planned for Destiny 2 at least not anytime soon because they did say that it’s a possibility but if it is a thing then I think by then almost all guns across the board on console should have a recoil direction and stability buff. The meta currently for both platforms are more alined now because auto rifles on console were as bad as they were on PC before but hand cannons are still not meta on console. The only meta hand cannon was not forgotten pre nerf because 180 rpm hand cannons were easy to control and all averaged about 80 aim assist.
I’ve used Hard Light ever since I picked it up in Destiny 1, even when it SUCKED. I still stuck with it. I don’t feel bad abusing it now.
HARD LIGHT IS BEST LIGHT *cue lightshow*
Holy shit, is that solemnity in the frame? MULTIPLE copies of Solemnity?
I'm ok with Bungie nerfing it by removing no fall off and ricochet bonus damage but please don't add screen shake back at least not for console on PC recoil is stupid easy to control not so easy for console users
I mean every gun on M+K is easier to control compared to using a controller. But I agree, i'm fine with them nerfing the ricochet rounds and giving it damage fall off and what not. But pls no screen shake....
Hard lights damage might revert to pre season of the worthy
So based off of usage numbers in trials and crucible overall no way this gun, or 600's in general, don't get adjusted for next season. It's strong and way too easy to use so once again Bungie has skewed the power vs ease of use ratio. Reminds me a bit of D1 pre Dark Below though it's not quite as oppressing as auto's where then. If they don't adjust the class overall this gun will see changes weather that be it's perk, ammo capacity, etc.
Description: Hold down the trigger continuously until the enemy dies, then reload. And repeat!
Hard Light was my very first exotic on Destiny 1 i spent 3 solid weeks doing strikes and patrols on earth to get bounty , back then you had to graft for exotics and these days they dish them out if they was candy!, gosh i sound old...lol. .guess i am I still use the Hard Light to this very day. .This is my Rifle this is my Gun!...
i’m sorry but something needs to be looked at for hardlight in pvp. you get no falloff damage, 100 stab, 100 aim assist, 100 recoil direction, no recoil, ricochet rounds that do x2 damage, 50 rounds and being in the best auto rifle archetype. this gun pretty much has no downsides and is too easy to use. pretty much the only downside imo is that it’s not a lightweight frame (oh wait those don’t exist). this auto rifle pretty much does everything you need it do. i agree with patrick that it will get nerfed. this could’ve been avoided if bungie didn’t add too variables at the same time without it being tested.
Conye they should just add some screen shake back. That was a unique characteristic of the gun anyway
Its been trash for nearly 6 years, let it have a couple months in the meta.
Kino K you’re kidding right? it’s an overtuned weapon that needs adjusting, it had 5 million kills on cauldron for that weekend of trials. the closest primary was suros with 1.9 and spare with 1 million
still the smoothest voice on youtube
do you play on an ultrawide cause your videos come out on a 21:9 aspect ratio?
yup
Has it been nerfed since the video came out?
I don't mind the ricochet rounds too much, the thing that bothers me the most about hard light is that it has the fastest TTK for a primary except for suros, and has zero damage falloff. if they lowered the TTK to 0.8 or 0.9 or somewhere in there then I'd be fine with it.
Also while hard light is overpowered, suros is even more so, with spinning up it can reach even the TTK of pre nerf recluse, and no primary should ever reach that kind of TTK without having to do things like get kills and reload. Even if you have a machine gun (which is of course a HEAVY WEAPON) you still can't reliably kill a suros user, and since the reload is so quick and snappy on suros, you can barely wait for them to stop firing and reload to push the suros user.
He sounds almost like Carl Sagan!!!😳
I love the skill ceiling potential of landing some deliberate bounce shots off the floor, but yeah with everything good it's gotten up to this point, I think the damage needs to be brought into a 1.5x or even 1.25x as much as it pains me to say. It's just too easy to spray and pray when I wish it was more of a skillful thing to do in order to get that extra damage. I'd much rather just have the stability and hidden stats nerfed to hell to keep it's unique ricochet thing, but I can see and admit how it's annoying in PVP. I'd even argue that maybe the damage fall off negation should only happen off a ricocheted shot to really push you to get good at banking shots, but that's just me.
I've been telling people since D1 that hard light was a sleeper weapon, you just have to get used to the screen shake.
The double damage ricochet rounds drives me NUTS. It seems really shitty that people in comp/trials can spray down door frames and corners to secure kills instead of having to play with strategy to secure a final blow.
I approve of your gentlemanly celebration.
It’s called “yeah we test the game”
Maybe it wouldn't be so powerful now if they would have just removed the shake years ago. Ah well.
Pls no nerf. Spare rations has been dominating for millenia, hard light deserves some attention. Plus it's not gamebreaking by any means.
Of course they'd buff my favorite weapon when I'm no longer playing. OF COURSE
For some reason I still find I can hit things better with the SUROS Regime...
Honestly it's very hard for me to use personally, because it is such a bulky weapon it covers half my screen
Shreds in crucible!
4:03 Trials of Osiris: Anomaly
That kitty hat better b a troll r meme r something..., gud review though.
OP
Welp I've never gotten this gun so I'm stuck with my Monte Carlo.
Or Suros.
Or the Tommygun.
Or Sweet Business PLEASE just let me have this guy Bungie, and BEFORE it's nerfed.
Meanwhile 600rpm smgs only do 23 to the head in crucible.
Instead of Outbreak Perfected it should be Hard Light Perfected
I like how people complain. Don't get me wrong it's good, but I can outgun in 1v1s with a sparerations
My favorite weapon from the first game that everyone avoided like the plague is now meta?
Pardon the hipster in me: Blegh.
I've never hated a meta so much in my life. I even preferred recluse meta to this. At least recluse needed to be powered up. Hardlite is just OP all the time.
dont use arc mode in PVP because there might me a riskrunner main
Just give it damage fall off and nerf the ricochet rounds. I don't wanna see hardlight be nerfed to the absolute ground because it's been almost 6 years of hardlight being fucking useless. It's nice to see a once low tier exotic become viable... even if it's op atm.
It’s baken in a gun
“Broken” -me
I remember this being my first exotic in D1 (and it was trash). Now, the sound of it makes me cringe in PvP
Nerf suggestions:
-Shots only ricochet once, and they don't have extra damage
-Magazine reduction to 25 rounds
Buff suggestions:
-The elements are linked to Anti-Barrier Rounds, Overload Rounds and Unstoppable Rounds
-Maybe give it Elemental Capacitor
No Dragonfly? Sharded.
no multi kill clip? Sharded.
Have you ever considered recording your gameplay footage in the standard 16x9? Having super widescreen for yourself is great but it looks bad when viewed from any other monitor. Giant black bars on all your content is not a good look.
Hardlight is also one of the 7 guns with 100 aim assist
I would be fine with them leaving hardlight alone. I'm glad it's finally usable. I'm glad it's strong without also being "this is objectively the best primary ever never use anything else ever" like recluse was for basically a whole-ass year.
Incoming seizures....
This weapon absolutely needs a nerf, no weapon should have no downsides
I hope they only nerf its magazine size and reload speed for PVP. 90% of the problem is the 49 rounds of ricocheting death. Then I could at least time my attack to start during the reload animation.
it's just ricohet rounds. double ricochet damage is the problem, mag size and reload speed is the same as any other 600rpm auto.
Positioning. Learn it.
Let auto rifle's have their moment, this is like Rocky getting a chance at Apollo.
I honestly hope it does get nerfed. Right now the flinch this thing causes is really annoying. And the fact that there is no damage falloff is ridiculous to me.
nerf
xür watched this I swear
I hate it, I really do. It doesn't feel fair to play against. People are crying/cried about hand cannons, but when I'm dying to one, I don't want to rip my hair out. Hard light is a brainless weapon with an insane amount of benefits.
Then you weren’t playing against good hand cannon players. Way easier to die to a HC than an auto rifle
Oh yeah, in 660 hours of D2 pvp I'm pretty sure I've never matched a good handcannon user. Also Hard light is not an average autorifle. Dying to a 3 tap of a handcannon feels fair, dying to a 1000 of ricocheting bullets from any point on the map doesn't.
John Titor I disagree. Dying to a three tap hand cannon sucks. I’m glad auto rifles are king rather than the recluse/luna’s howl.
Hand cannon meta sucks. I'm glad how autos feel right now. Never had so much fun in PVP
Darude sandstorm intensifies
I like this weapon, i dont feel like its op tho
good review
but
nerf it.
This weapon is a joke now, nears nerfing lol
Gotta love the recluse kids crying in the forums.
first
First bitches
This gun is cancer in trials