The Decline of Destiny Factions & Why Bungie Removed Them
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In this Destiny video we'll be going through the origins and complete history of factions from Destiny 1 to Destiny 2. Dead orbit, new monarchy and future war cult came a long way from being simple vendors offering some of the rarest and most powerful rewards in the game like the exotic class items and were upgraded in the taken king with even better items, but in Destiny 2 they were turned into the faction rallies which became their downfall as bungie would eventually remove them from the game... #Destiny #Destiny2
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Which was the best faction? 🤔
I was always an FWC kind of player. I'd like to see Bungie create new factions especially since the story has evolved a lot since D1.
If you go by the weapons I would say Dead Orbit.
Yeah, they made FWC racist. I always loved them and their story, the machine they had, being tied to those crazy vex experiments on Venus. Dam
Dead orbit
Dead Orbit for Life. Wish they would not have removed the Factions. Loved them
The Tower in D1 used to feel alive. Now it feels empty and I find myself going the HELM more often.
@@lemttomoto The D1 Tower is a part of the destination of The Final Shape.
@@Ceelker It is but I don't think it's going to be a social space like it used to. It'll just be a place we traverse through.
@@lemttomoto It'd be even better if they brought it back with some reconfigurations/modifications with new usable spaces and such.
Need a Helm Crytographer
Remember the pub?
The fact that you still have high quality footage of nearly every topic related to Destiny 1 and 2 is insane and really highly appreciated for historic value. Thank you for what you do.
I kept most footage I recorded over the years so comes in handy for retrospective videos like these, glad you enjoyed thanks for watching!
I wish they would have kept the factions like D1, just updated weapons or the original weapons from d1 it would have kept more engaged.
Would’ve been cool but the community would’ve lost their minds like always cuz all it was, was recolored weapons and armor with the logo of the faction put on it and with different perks, it would’ve also made the weapon pool even more bloated
@@Blue-qt8msto be fair at least the factions weapons woulda been faction specific. We currently have 3 non sunset versions of all the ikelos weapons so bloat was gonna happen anyways unfortunately.
They wouldn't keep the weapons and armor since bungie hates scifi gear being in their scifi game now they only allow ugly ridiculously chunky armor and either weird looking or ugly modern looking weapons
@@Blue-qt8msthe weapon pool is already bloated. There's a lot of weapons that have the same stats, just different perk rolls or designs. Or weapons with the same design as another weapon, just with different stats and perks. That's 90% of the entire weapons collection in D2 and about 20-30% isn't even accesible anymore because most of the shit people paid for got removed.
I'm sure adding 24 weapons and 45 pieces of armor to the game, wouldn't make other gear even more invaluable.
The gunsmith, vendor resets, xur, factions all gave something to log in and check every couple days. Getting rid of these really killed the daily log in fun for me. D1 as simple as it was had the formula. Don’t totally change what works, just refine the formula
Except for the months on end with absolutely no new content. Don’t let your nostalgia cloud how empty most of d1 was
@@jontaryn4816at least the content in D1 was fun and worth playing. D2 ‘new’ content is just copy and paste or recycled with a new label. Dont let bungies dick juice cloud your vision
I miss the faction wars.
The fraction wars suck and are very lazily done
@@bobbybamf14yea fuck the math wars
The guardian games are such a glow down of the faction wars.
Hope one day Bungie tries factions again but with house light (replaces dead orbit), Caitel's cabal (replaces future war cult) and the awoken (replaces new monarchy). Having fallen cabal and awoken themed loot would be a good incentive to join them.
i think it will be the other way around!
its more likely caital will replace new monarchy and the awoken will replace FWC!
That would take effort and creativity to implement, so bungo will never do it lol. Great idea though.
@@ThrobinHood97
never say never though!
@@keronstewart9446 Cabal makes more sense as war cults replacement given the cabals war mongering attitude.
Boring
I miss my dead orbit shaders!!😢
Same, bro. Same.
If Bungie ever does bring back Faction rallies or the factions I really hope they aren’t like Warmind. Grinding for those exotic armor ornaments and catalyst were probably the worst grind I’ve done across both games. You needed 50 levels to get both one of the catalyst and armor ornaments, it took about an hour of public events to get 1 level, you had one week to hit level 50 since there was only 3 rallies, and you had to do that 3 times if you wanted everything.
Honestly, Destiny nowadays is not that grindy compared to Warmind Faction Rallies.
That grind is something I'll never forget
Grinding materials for those exotic swords 💀
Ain’t gonna lie Faction rally’s we’re shiteeeee bring back the OG D1 style
This could have been a 20 second video. It’s because bungie is lazy and didn’t want to make faction specific content so they left them without any story involvement for 6 years and then said “fwc died offscreen so everyone is banned” and cut them from the tower.
It’s not laziness, its just another entire event that would take time off everything else, clearly you done know what prioritization means they already release 4 seasons, 3 extoic missions, 2 raids, 2 dungeons, 4 events, 1 new location, 1 campaign, 1 new strike and completely reworked and changed 2 strikes, 4 new pvp maps, added multiple huge QoL improvements and are going to add a new gameplay update in a few months with multiple new pvp game mode within the past 14 months and now your wanting them to add another new event that’d take hundreds of additional hours to produce, people like you can never be happy and are always wanting more
You came all this way to complain about that?
Find somewhere else to be then 🤷🏿♂️
Make your own "20 sec video"
He’s a content creator, he’s going to make whatever he wants. Here’s an idea though… pretty crazy thought but just hear me out… if you don’t like it, don’t watch it 😳
I’ve never experienced most of what was described in the video, so it was good entertainment for me. If you don’t like it, just don’t watch it. No one cares about your snide remarks
At this point I totally agree with you. Destiny has the perfect LORE. Really have to congrats to the writers and creators of the lore. But the management of Bungie was very poor.
For me fwc had best weapons in both games I really did like their color scheme and goal/mission statement. The other 2 bored me honestly
The FWC color scheme of purple with white, yellow and salmon/rose (?) accents was slick! And while Hung Jury was exceptional, I really liked the FWC weapons over what DO and NM offered.
I miss the factions so much. The thing about fanctions in d1 is it felt like the world was connected, doing activities give you rank for that activity, but also your faction rank, you were helping a lot at once, you felt like you were gaining progress, cuz your rank didnt reset every damn 3 months so everything you did WASNT useless
It was such a missed opportunity to have crucible be based around faction wars.
They could've implemented a system similar to guardian games but it's a weekly thing where the factions are pitted against each other and lore will be developed based around that. For example a faction that is losing in stats or popularity could start to spread propaganda about fighting for them when you login to the game and if you switch you'll get some exclusive gear or cosmetics to said faction. Each faction could offer some passive abilities as well that could be enticing (or offer exclusive mods). Staying with a faction could grant you loyalty rewards. It could've made crucible far more engaging
What’s interesting, after the reveal of the new exotic class items coming in TFS, it’s clear bungie didn’t forget factions exist they just don’t have the resources to update them
Man, I miss the revelry. Favorite iteration of the infinite forest activity.
I wish I had been playing vanilla D2 when these rallies were around. I missed out on the amazing Eye Of Another World ornament. 😢
D1
FWC had the best spawn animation fight me
As a former member of Dead Orbit since D1, I always hoped to see or go to the Dead Orbit fleet.
When it became clear we never would, I started thinking all the factors were just for lip service and were never intended to be fleshed out.
I know D1 had its fault, such as launching without much content, but man… that game was like crack. Still miss the music, the mystery and of course my Eclipse Maw gear…
You should make a video about SRL. I actually enjoyed it!
Great vid. I’d forgotten how cool the factions were.
Pretty great summary of the old factions. I know this isn’t really a lore video on the old factions, but if I remember right from the Veil containment recordings, Lakshmi-2’s mind is pretty much a copy of Maya Sundaresh’s.
I was in future war cult mainly because I’m a future space doomsday prepper 🤣
FWC - 'Wormwood' - loved that sidearm
i wish we could stand together and return to destiny 1 as a whole and bring life to it again, i wish bungie would increase the vault space which killed the game
In Lightfall, didn't we find out that Lakshmi was also from Neptune and was involved with testing on the veil? FWC made a lot more sense after that.
I was a dead orbit main in D1, Factions in D1 gave you a reason to play, ranking up to get the weapons, ships, emblems and shaders........... D2 has nothing like this which sucks
I don't know, man. Renown was an interesting concept. It was pretty cool stacking up to 5 then going to a Kost Sector - it was more difficult and much more fun.
Also - the hologram.you carried about looked great!
Destiny 1 faction guns had that look that made them feel like real rare cool guns. In d2 I never feel like my guns feel special
Destiny.. a fashion show for players.
the truest end game
Remember factions? The guardians on the farm Remember
I was a loyal FWC member. I think it's still the emblem I use. I really thought we never won a single faction rally. I guess I was on vacation the one time we won.
I was a new light during Season of The Splicer/Beyond Light era. The only thing I knew of the factions was that of Laksmi-2 and FWC. Really bummed that I missed the factions 😢
brought us down memory lane with this one.
New Monarchy had that drip
I can answer this one easy, because Bungie is incompetent.
As a relatively new D2 player, I picked up on the faction types from seeing their iconography in the Tower, faction armor sets, and at times weapons and emblems. I wish in some small capacity there were vendors present in the Tower or even the hanger, even if their purpose was to merely sell shaders and ornaments. We are already used to the seasonal weapon having Vanguard and Crucible shaders, so why not have a select few weapons introduced into the season have ornaments with simple logos and color schemes too? We already have some weapons with the War Cult emblem.
You forgot about he bat transmat effect that you could get from using a halloween consumable
i feel like its simple turn them into permanent vendors and give them weapons that have a rare and random trait that would be sought after but could only be gained from specific factions that would drive so much
the D2 Dead Orbit titan armor was pretty awesome, TBH. Loved when it got re-added with the Prophecy dungeon, def miss that period of D2. Even with sunsetting happening around then, I had fun.
I thought the distributary is sealed off and it can’t be entered/exited from anymore
Didn’t Mara do that as a failsafe after she left?
It's supposed to be but some characters believe they can get back in so we'll see!
I managed to get the dance party key back in the day but yea i never knew anyone else really who obtained one. The whole event was kinda shit tbh
New monarchy was the best for me the auto rifle you got from it i loved it i have 42,000 + kills with it if bungie dint do sunseting i would still be using it
3:49 As a veteran player myself, this only proves how dumb Bungie became content-wise, the endless cycle of re-cycle, they've made a big fuss about it in The Final Shape reveal with "two exotics equipped at the same time" but we all know that everything sounds so familiar, doesn't it ?
Factions was my favourite thing in destiny 1, i hate it that they have been removed 😢.
They totally need to add the life exotic perk to destiny 2, it’ll definitely make crazy builds
Correction: there were other transmat effects in D1, there was a halloween themed consumable that would change your effect to a swarm of bats, but only until the next reset.
There may have been others, but that's the one i know about for sure.
In 2016, my Playstation 4 (along with all of my other possessions in my apartment) was stolen, I didn't get a new one until 2018. Whoever had stolen my PS had logged in to my Destiny account and deleted everything in my inventory and my vault. I had a huge rank with dead orbit, their ship, the exotic class items, a bunch of their guns and armor, etc. Along with raid weapons, rare drops... I could go on and on, I played the hell out of D1... And poof, in one night, all of it was gone. I was in contact with Playstation themselves and my local police department and of course neither of them were any help. Playstation's support "specialists" didn't even let me know that I should have changed the email associated with my account along with my password. So whoever it was had free range of my account for 2 years... I can't express how upset I was. I stopped playing D1 after I got a new PS4 and changed my account info but I started playing D2 again since it was relatively new at the time. I'm still very upset about my D1 account though, I don't know if I'll ever really get over it.
I think in destiny 1 they were originally special because there wasn't so many vendors. That changed in Taken king but for awhile there was Vanguard, Crucible, Gunsmith, and Faction of your choice.
They got lost in the shuffle in D2.
They should bring them back as vendors like in D1. Maybe do quest to gain favor or weekly bounties. Idk they were an interesting part of D1 for sure.
I was dead orbit all the way cuz Hung Jury in d1. I vaguely remember them in D2, but that was only in like vanilla or red war right?
I forgot about this stuff but it’s coming back
So excited for them to come back I still rep dead orbit till this day
I wonder if the galaxy pool is going to be a place we go to find the portal into the awoken home universe.
That armour definitely looks Power Rangers/Super Sentai inspired. Looks awesome
I am always a Dead Orbit guy
Same.
1:42 as twisted a Laksmi was…the second war did come in season of the seraph… proceeding to Lightfall. Was just a lazy way into it.
For PvP weapons FWC had the best ones and some Dead Orbit but for PvE Dead Orbit has one of the best with Hung Jury
ngl i think if faction rally's had came back and turned into the guardian games style it would have been pretty good. having the 3 factions flags instead of the 3 classes and having the medals system so it mattered more about doing better activities. think id actually like that more than guardian games.
I miss the trash talk we all had arguing which was best
I LOVE FUTURE WAR CULT PLEASE BRING BACK FACTIONS BUNGIE😭😭😭
Ahh Destiny 1, back when the game was simple & not overloaded with unnecessary content.
What?
Destiny 2 was peek simplicity lmao
Destiny 1 had alot to it lmao
@@SlongestKongestmeanwhile there's memorizing what over 200 perks do in your favorite guns, how to build your character with the many new mods added, discussing what the best DLC's are to buy to save you some cash, just to name a few.
I miss the factions, i want them back
Ahh in destiny 2 from pointless rewards, to a rigged event that has every class win in a cycle of Titan, hunter, then warlock which is just as pointless which only gets some tracks with some decent rewards which were few in number
You know you were a baller rolling into a crucible match in the Fermi Paradox
They should bring back faction wars but the armor would be eververse armor sets and should be free but tied to quests or have incentives to obtain it.
Always thought removing the factions was a mistake they added depth
They should have just brought the faction mechanics from D1 cause we would have more weapons and armor to grind for which in turn would keep people playing the game
I feel the factions offered incredible diversity and opportunity to own unique weapons and armor with specific shaders and rather than invest in continuing or expanding it they cut it loose in favor of a more centralized and controlled loot pool. Which is what people dislike greatly. The loss of the gunsmith bounties, unique weapons back in d1 coupled with the loss of factions and what they had to offer was a travesty to say the least despite what fanboys here would say.
There were consumable "transmat effects" in destiny 1 as well
I got a loot-a-palooza key
Edit: after checking my raid report I have 222 clears and I've only ever had one but I got it year 1.
I just chose new monarchy because he looked like Lord Farquad from Shrek
As someone who has been repping Dead Orbit since Destiny 1, the fact that they have a key role coming up is promising
Edz lost sector tokens farm was a sweating event back in the day
Man that's nostalgic to think about. I miss the factions, always was with dead orbit. Shame there aren't any factions rn.
Cousin trying to get me back into Destiny but this is the main reason I couldn't enjoy it when it first came out. I had every FWC ship/shader/armor and weapons...this was all on xbox so I don't remember how many hours I had but dammit were those the days. Destiny was so amazing up until they decided to make a 2nd game instead of just updating Destiny itself for 10 years like originally planned.
How time flies
I miss the destiny class specific exotics
I wish we had factions still. I miss repping FWC
Sad thing is I'm pretty sure fraction rallies are still much better than what we have in Guardian Games
Good lord, destiny 1 faction weaponry and armor looks so much better. Like actually good looking legendary tier items, where as the destiny 2 faction stuff looks awful.
I want them back. a non resetting vendor would be great.
i’ve been wating faction rallies for a long time
I still miss dead orbit
I played vanilla d2 and chose new monarchy. I remember winning like 4 times in a row or something 😂
HE LIVES
Dead Orbit will always live on!
The future war cult armour always looked best on the hunter in D1, especially the visor with the FWC going across it.
I actually miss factions
I had q loot a palooza didnt know what it was haha
Didn't even mention Lakshmi being essentially an imprinted clone of Maya Sandaresh
Man i still remember
You see. Bungie keeping factions means they'd have to actually work more. We can't have that at Bungie.
Edit: Dead orbit is still alive. Hopefully they will come back in a meaningful way after final shape.
Lol as if Bungie would do that.
11:20 damn I knew Bungie were woke but that is next level haha. Disrespecting escapism is why everyone's crazy these days
New Monarchy with the Iron Man shaders and Dead Orbit for those edgy looking shades of black and white. Both looked great in D1 and D2. It's a shame they removed factions but I understand that Destiny 2 was a completely different game back then.
Dead Orbit - Hung Jury = the OG vendor roll (Destiny 1) /// Destiny 2 feels more like TH-cam fan service than an actual game. Destiny 1 (4) Life!
Bungie could easily bring back Factions all they have to do is make them how they were in D1
Because Bungie hates good ideas
most advanced humans and other species on the universe
picks a faction based on their colors, not their ideals.
amazing!
I just wish they'd sell the armor ornaments 🙃
13:05 Bungie did make an entire campaign for nothing as they "sunset" it.