New FN High Power Tabletop Review and Field Strip
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- 0:00 New FN High Power Tabletop Review and Field Strip
0:26 In the Box
2:16 The Manual
3:49 “New” V “Classic”
7:32 A look at the FN High Power
9:35 Trigger Talk
10:07 Back to looking at the gun
10:55 Field Strip
12:27 Chamber Fitment
13:27 Reassembly
13:49 In the Range Video
14:58 Thank YOU Patrons
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Cool
Great read.
@@newpeupyoass haha, it's not out yet. I just remembered I had this video, it's been sitting in wait for 3 months!
Not bad video or gun. . Mag disconnects ….bad.
@@GBGuns Great read!
Nice looking gun, but instead of giving you extra grip panels, they should have sent an extra magazine
Just bought one this week, put about 300 rounds through right away before I took it home. Really really soft shooter, really really good looking. Good single action trigger, I’d say between a 1911 and sig single action which is pretty good being a pivoting trigger. IT IS NOT A HIGH POWER, and it wasn’t meant to be, and I’m fine with that. It ran totally reliable, which is what I expected. Only two “gripes” for lack of a better word. One, it’s heavy, really heavy, which has its merits, but maybe not so much as a carry gun. Two, the casting on the frame is a little crude, wish they would have smoothed it out before finishing it but it’s a solid piece. If you’re looking for a browning high power this is not the gun for you. If you’re looking for a high quality soft shooting reliable piece with a light nod to its origins you won’t be disappointed.
It looks like FN did a great job with the High-Power. They may have made something that will make an excellent match pistol. No optics cut which I like. Probably means it would be tough to do or they are waiting to see how popular it is before putting in the R&D into making an optics cut work
Thanks
I am a fan of the Browning Hi-Power, hence, I welcome the revival of the venerable HP. Great presentation 👏🏼
I quite like the concept of a modernized Hi Power. I’ll like it more when they release a Tactical model with optics mounting and full-length railed dustcover. Here’s what I don’t get though - why come out with this half-way updated model in the first place? If they wanted to attract purists and people who like the classic Hi Power, then making a completely new gun with all the design and mechanical changes makes it unappealing to that group, and if they wanted to attract modern practical shooters who might otherwise buy a modern striker-fired pistol then the lack of optics-ready solution and accessory rail makes it unappealing to those shooters. So who’s left? Either re-introduce the true classic Hi Power as they used to make it, or go all the way in updating the design and include the features modern shooters want like optics and accessory rail.
Of course the answer is they release the basic bitch version first and let everybody who likes it buy that, then 9-12 months later release the Tactical version that has all the upgrades people actually want in a modernized pistol and make the impatient people buy another new gun from them. This is called FN’s “Fuck you, you’ll buy it anyway” business model. It worked wonders for them with the 509/509 Tactical pistols, so why not do it again?
you are assuming another version will be released? fn has said nothing. also when it came to the 509 series it started out the same but for multiple fn models they have not done what u said they kept it classy and familiar to the older version. if u want a 509 tac get one lol Also once u see the price tag many people will not want one if it would work
Bingo
I would buy this because I want a high power that's ambidextrous and I really don't need a pic rail so this is perfect not everything has to be tacticool
Very nice and thorough review
Only thing that has excited me in a few years.
I've been reading the American Rifleman report in the throne room. I can't wait to check on out. The longer grip sounds good as my paw is kinda cramped on the original. But that's why my original HP stays in the safe and I carry my CZ-75.
As an owner of a vintage BHP I'm excited to see this. I trust your reviews. Can't wait to see what's for dinner
I also bought the Browning Hi-power with the adjustable sight in 1970. Probably still my favorite piece.
I own a WW 2 Nazi FN High power a bring back from the war even with the Swastikas and the German bird stamps.
This handgun is solid, and no cheap Glock can compare to it!
It has stunning accuracy also !
Awesome video thank so much ❤
The action changed to a Browning-Whiting action, what is often falsely called Petter-Browning-Sig action. The idea of seeing it as like a new mustang fits nicely.
excellent review
Looks GreAt ! Thanks for the review
Nice! Great video!
Thank you. 👍
Thank you for comparing the two guns side by side, especially the width. I have smaller hands, so I tend to prefer thinner grips like 1911's or the p365. I was looking forward to this pistol, but I might just hold off and try to get my hands on a vintage one instead.
Just get the springfield one, 90% of everything is interchangeable and there are modifications made to make it a very acceptable shooter.
Buy a Cz75b. Its thinner
Honestly I think I’d rather have the tisas repro.
Yeah
I’ve got one and totally rebuilt it. Thing is an awesome shooter with a great trigger. I only lament the low capacity. I seriously doubt it, but it would be nice if the new mags were compatible with the old Hi-Powers.
@@DLordSadow You can get 15 rounders for the old ones. The new ones only get 2 more rounds than that
@@burmiester1 Mec-Gar compromised the follower and the spring to achieve that capacity. The resulting long term unreliability of the mag makes the extra capacity not worth it.
@@DLordSadow Fair
Just saw this video , although I subscribe & marked the bell(?)
High Power reminds me of a not forgotten encounter with hundreds of them- 1977, as an entire shipment if FN Browning High Powers had been " jacked" off the dock as they arrived & the fellow who jacked them had them up for sale for $100 each- they were gorgeous In beautiful wood cases ( walnut ?) the case interiors were red ( velvet looking) with cleaning kits in matching pouches & extra magazine ,
Not Forgotten History
Hey, it is a modern Hi Power!, it is not bringing the old model back the way it was. Even an old school guy like me apreciate it....Nice!...thanks for the video!
The Tisas BR9 have a better slide finish . I’ll keep an eye for availability and pricing .
Tisas finish is superb
I like that the mag disconnect is finally gone.
To me, it looks like it improves on the original on every front.
Regarding optics mounting and accessory rail - I wouldn't be surprised if those get covered in a High Power Tactical in a year or two. And if you can't wait, it doesn't look too tricky for a gunsmith to pull either of those off.
I don't consider going from 32 to 40 ounces an improvement on every front. Not saying it's not a good gun. I love 1911's and they are heavy. But I'll stick with the original and EAA offers one with a rail and I'm sure they will beat FN with a model that has an optics cut.
I love the old hi power but I think I would love this one as well.
Seems interesting to say the least, the old models are extremely common here in Belgium (as you'd expect from the country of origin) and this modernized models seems like a nice retro-look successor.
now, this might sound heretical but i would like to see one with rails and a red dot cut, it is 2022 after all...
it's going to take a while before these would arrive here though, FN doesn't sell FN branded guns here anymore (would've like an FN-made 16A4 stlye AR but alas) so they have to be imported from the US in different ways.
was thinking the same thing about the red dot
You don't need all those toys to shoot a gun.
hoping this gets tons of support globally, i desperately nwant one like now!
Reminds me of a Ruger P89!
Nice takedown process. 👍🙏😎
Yesterday's chat was cool. How many tallboys did you knock down?😎
Just two, but one of them was a sneaky 9.5%
@@GBGuns ouch!
I don't understand having a plastic guide rod on an all-steel gun.
Belgians
First Pistol I ever shot was a 60s hi power.
This new gun seems to have a more reciprocating mass. I loved how that old Hi Power recoiled, does the new model feel different? It's the little things.
Only thing I don't like is the plastic guide rod and ambi controls.
Graham your videos answer all of the questions I have about the firearms that you review. Top-notch youtuber
Picked mine up this past Friday, first one that I had seen in the metro Detroit, central mid Mi areas. On initial teardown for cleaning the takedown lever would not easily rotate, had to pry down to begin movement. Added a drop of lubricant to the takedown lever to hopefully move it more easily at next cleaning. Going to the range in a little bit for the first shots. Picked up a set of fn 509 night sights which hopefully fit and maintain accuracy. A set of fn g10 grips are ordered and on the way. The plastic grips seem kind of cheap?
I think it's just a pretty cool looking gun I want one I'm surprised there aren't mire reviews in it
That is not a Hi-Power, That is a Ruger p89 with frame mounted safety... I am assuming FN missed that part.... 😄
Looks almost as ugly don’t it?
As I was looking at it I was thinking I've seen this somewhere before. After I saw your comment I was like OMG. It's a single action Ruger P89!
@@matthewcaughey8898 Unfortunately, they ruined up the 100 years old classic, it looks functional and solid but there is nothing related with the soul of Hi-power.
At least we still got Springfield armoy and Zig 14 Sport.
Exactly right only not as durable as a Ruger
@@heat147 Or a Girsan, if you want one that actually works.
Ahhh dammit I want one of these now
I have to say I’m digging what they did to it.
Would have liked a light rail like Springfield, Sig, Colt did with the 1911s. It feels like they went modern with some things but neglected going the whole hog.
Do you really need all that tacticool stuff?🤷🏽♂️
@@WALTERBROADDUS A light on your gun is probably the most useful "tacticool" bit of kit you could have, so yes. Why try to dual wield a flashlight and pistol when you can put the light ON your pistol?
@@herecomesaregular8418 I will confess to falling into the Tacticool bandwagon on this.🙄 But, how many actually ever do any night shooting? And if you are clearing dark rooms? Some other elements of home protection have been overlooked. Overall, It sells tac lights...
@@WALTERBROADDUS For civilian self defense, genuinely it’s more likely to occur at night than the day as criminals tend to attack at night when there’s less people around. A lot of people focus on active shooter situations due to being in the news (those guys are trying to cause as many casualties as possible),, but those are really rare. It’s more likely a lone mugger or attacker will assault you and that tends to happen at night. So a weapon light is very useful there.
@@gameragodzilla around here we shoot folks 24/7. I think we're up over 350 murders already in Philadelphia.
Thank you for the upload The thickness of the grip? Would you say it's comparable to a cz 75? In pictures it just looks a little thicker than I thought it would be but I didn't know if it's just an optical illusion sore of thing ..I don't have small hands I'm just curious. I live in a rural area so the less popular or newer firearms take awhile before i can get my hands on one
it’s a good looking gun
I need this
It looks like a pre-rail sig p226. Glad they have updated this classic. Just wish it had the lines of the original like Girsan's version. Nice walk through, as usual, Graham.
It's Curious that you mentioned Sig. That was a major point that he did not mention in his review. The barrel lock up. Rather than having locking lugs on the barrel as it has traditionally; this new version locks the barrel on the ejection port like a SIG pistol or Beretta.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Good catch. It's a curious change for sure. The old method wasn't unreliable, so I doubt that's why they did it. Likely cheaper to manufacture.
It allowed them to change the feed ramp and increase reliability with certain bullet profiles
Perfect for Detective Axel Foley for Beverly Hills Cop IV.
Great looking pistol. FN says height for High Power is 5.62”with a weight of 40 oz. SA-35 has a height of 4.8” with a weight of 32 oz. I noticed classic Hi-Power magazine basepad is flush with bottom of grip whereas on the High Power, the 17 round mag protrudes slightly. I doubt it protrudes over 3/4 of an inch so will standard Hi Power mags work in the new High Power. If the High Power does well, i could see FN releasing a more carry friendly model kinda like Sig did with the P210 Carry.
Sig P210 Carry height 5.63” and new High Power height is 5.62”
I do not believe magazines are interchangeable.
I have GIRSAN MCP35 and it's a well made pistol
Is this hot? It's like what they used to say about Alanis Morrisette; "Ooooo- almost!"
I'm not sorry to admit that I prefer the Hi Powers that were made right up until they decide to go cast frame/40 cal. MkII BHPs are particularly my favorites.
04:59 I played this part at quarter speed....; good Lord, the slide looks 30-40% wider!
Any idea when they are going to start shipping these out? Had one on order with my LGS for months.
Gonna get the Springfield SA-35 next year, after they work through their problems. Can’t justify the $1,200 price tag no matter how good the FN version may be.
Yeah, $1200 is ridiculous. About 20 years ago, I picked up an FN Hi Power (with SFS) for about $430. I'm glad that I got it when I did.
That's a different gun. These modern ones are built differently. Different action, different takedown. Different mags
Bought one on July 5th, so far no issues to feed or eject 115, 124, 147 grains, great handgun but FN could’ve done better to justify the price of $1100-1269,
Two magazines instead of three, plastic guide rod instead of quality stainless steel and I do understand stand the idea that the handgun all metal n that will increase the weight,
I like it
EXCELENTE ARMA , ETERNA.
ハイパワーがリニューアルして更に格好良く現代的になったんだね。
I got mine for a little over 1000. It feels well built and frame to slide fit is tight. I think people are expecting too much out of this gun its supposed to be a throwback but with an updated locking mechanism. Sig did the same thing with the p210 standard and target.
I do feel like they went a little too half and half with it, though, especially in comparison to modernized 1911s. A 1911 with a double stack frame is still 80% compatible with aftermarket 1911 parts (the only unique parts are the frame, magazine, trigger, mag catch, and grips) and 1911s have been getting light rails, night sights, and now even milled slides for red dots for years now.
FN throwing out all aftermarket support for the old Hi-Power while also not fully updating it to mount lights or red dots seems like a bit of a waste. Though I do think the updates are definitely an improvement over the original design, they should go further to fully modernize the gun. Hell, if they also make it compatible in other calibers, like, say, a .45ACP version that takes their FNX-45 15 round mags, it’d finally replace the 1911 as the premier metal framed, single action pistol.
Bringing back "vintage" or retro styling in product with modern internals is nothing new. Auto manufacturers have been doing it for quite some time. In the Hi Power, some upgrades were absolutely necessary - due to slide bite, middling trigger performance, magazine capacity, and to a lesser extent, ergonomics. So FN chose the route modern auto manufacturers chose instead of going the SA-35 way. For those people who wanted the old Hi Power back, there are alternatives. The only thing that puzzles (IMO) - and maybe we'll see it in future models - is the omission of the seemingly obligatory optics cut.
BIG IF FN ever releases their Hipower version I will be seriously interested in it. Until then all of the gun shops in my area keep saying they are waiting for they're shipments to come in.
It's already on the market.
I can see this is going to be a problem when ordering parts. Parts like mags, grips, and holsters are going to be labeled high power but not work.
Are the wood grips only on that finish ?or the grey finish too?
“As all get out..”. Thought that was a southern saying. Surprised me!
My time in the Army gave me a mixed vernacular. I use "Howdy" more than "hello" despite growing up West Coast.
Nice review. Does this take the original Hi-Power mags (13 and 15 rounds) by MecGar? Thanks.
I do not believe so.
I like it , I might get one . I will just say what I don’t like.
The serrations. Changes the typical look of bhp
Gun looks bulkier compared to delicate feel of original bhp but I don’t know the specs and comparison
I would like it mirror polished blued
...and mags are 509 mags 👍!
So for around $1,369 bucks the features you get on this are basic steel sights, plastic grips w/ plastic backstrap, a plastic guide rod and only 2 mags?! What an insane deal! (Sarcasm) Geez if your going to modernize a classic gun at least strap some night sights on it and don't skimp out on the recoil system. FN needs to take some notes from Sig with their P210 carry. I think I'll pass on this one. Very little features for the price asked. Guess your just paying for the name on this one.
I love my p35, adjust your grab and the hammer bite should go away. Or replace the hammer without a ring on it and the hammer bite will go away..
It looks good, but.....is there any chance that they would be able to make a more compact version for concealed carry?
FN stopped production on the original HP at least twice now, I wonder if they can make enough money on this one given their production cost. I think people should tell EAA and SDS to ask Tisas and Girsan for a compact HP. I'd also like to see .380 versions of it, including a threaded barrel variant.
Why does the new model remind me of Spain's STAR line of pistols?
does anyone know what the purpose of having an opening at the front of the dust cover?
I think the new (plastic) guide rod is longer than the old metal rod, so when the slide is locked back, that rod needs to stick out the front, hence the hole :)
Not gonna lie im not feeling it maybe its not my cup of tea but its just doesnt look like one. What I was imagining is for it was same design just add an accessory rail, beaver tail, optics cut, and an option of either a steel frame or polymer. But thats just me.
It’s almost like a what would Stoner do project for the High Power. So FN embarked on the what would Browning do project!! This gun is basically the original High Power with almost all of your modern advances in firearms technology incorporated into its new design. In all honesty if John Browning were still around he almost certainly would have upgraded this design to something very similar. If you have read anything about John Browning you would know that he wasn’t one to fester on old technology. John Browning was the absolute pinnacle of cutting edge technology in his time. So I will christen this gun the " What Would Browning Do, FN High Power".
Above all else, John Moses Browning was a pragmatist. If he were alive today he would carry a Glock w/ an RMR.
Keep it I’ll take my old MK-3 surplus hi power any day of the week
Saive did most the design. Not Browning.
Again, no matter how good, can never justify that stinking price tag! I could almost buy two Springfield SA-35 with the asking price….NO THANKS!
People rave about these slim guns, but they are not fun if you have big hands. I'll take a chunky og 92FS any day.
There have been some modifications compared to the original Hi Power
But why there isn't a picatinny rail on the bottom or a sight that can be mounted on the slide is a good question
Maybe it was released out of nostalgia, but to be honest, this pistol no longer really meets the requirements of today, even if it was once an epoch-making idea, not even then
Why can't somebody make a modern day Browning high power? Let's see the rails let's see the extra slide cuts, optic ready options, better beavertails maybe a short slide with a built-in comp.
No optics mounts or lights?
Thank GOD it's AMBI.
LOOK FOR A MK-3 hi power they had factory ambi units
id take a rail option over ambi features any day
It’s called Sig P226
17 round capacity makes FN a game changer.
I sure would like to put one of these new High Powers in my hand...they're kind of a unicorn in my area. I haven't seen ANY of the new versions of the HP from any major manufacturer. Where the hell are the guns??
not catalogued anymore either
They're still on FN's website along with a dealer locator
@@GBGuns I know. I wrote that comment a year ago. I've actually seen a few in the wild now.
When I read the comments & see all how many grumble abt the updated version, I can't help but wonder at the fact that those same guns they long for weren't moving off the shelves when they were discontinued. Or... if Chevy had re-introduced the exact same Camaro made in 69, but at today's prices, how many would bite!
It's just evolution... like the Beretta M9.
FN: "We're re-releasing the High Power!"
High Power fans: "Finally! Will it be based on a previous model?"
FN: "Better! We not only redesigned the whole thing, but got rid of the magazine that defines the whole gun!"
High Power fans: "...%$#@ you!"
So it’s a sig 226
Just saw your video on the Kahr cm45. I HEARD, you can use 1911 single stack .45 acp mags in them. Can you verify or deny this.?
Sorry, we don't have that gun anymore.
Yes it takes 1911 mags
Hey great video narrative so thumbs 👍. I’m not knocking this channel but I am knocking this “New” “Hi-Power.” I’m calling it the “[ Too]HEAVY-Power.” This thing is such a disappointment. It is NOT a classic “Hi Power” to say the least. The fact that it’s not backwards compatible with traditional magazines was a very bad decision by FN. This new model is just too thick when compared to the classic design every H-Power user loved. The Girsan I hate to say it, is closer (not exact) to the original P35 design. The weight of the new Hi Power is terrible for concealed carry too, when compared to the classic P35.
This new FN is just a bad dream Frankenstein gun. You’re right, it’s an evolution like a 2022 Camaro, but when everyone wishes they’d just bring back the original 1967 model.
This ot the shadow 2 ?
Cuánto vale allá en USA , y si crees vale la pena .👍
It looks like what FN has accomplished is making a single action Shadow 2 that you can't find magazines or holsters for, and probably isn't quite as good.
The original Hi Power is sleek and right-sized. The new High Power is just a big, steel 9mm that offers no advantage over other big steel 9mm's, but costs more.
PS: Mec Gar has 13 round magazines too.
SPRINGFIELD SA-35 & BROWNING HI-POWER 9MM 13-ROUND
$31.70
$34.55
Do people like all black sights?
Do the new grips fit the older models?
I doubt it, the new frame is larger
@@GBGuns thanks, wishful thinking on my part.
Nice video. How much pounds on the trigger this new HP has?
I don't know, I don't measure trigger pull weight because I have yet to see it really matter. Unless it's under 3 or over 10 pounds pull feel and distance are much more important.
@@GBGuns do you mean a distance to a target or what?
@@asdovas8919 trigger travel distance. How far it has to be pulled for take-up, the break, and reset.
@@GBGuns ok, I got it.
@@asdovas8919 I say this be ause after years of shooting there are some "heavy" triggers that I can shoot better than some "light" triggers simply because they offer better co tol or feedback. Trigger pull weight to me is the least important aspect of a trigger.
I am torn… one day I like this, and the next I don’t. Not sure why. Maybe it’s the handle grips seem a bit too thick…. The grips look cheap as hell,too. Maybe that is my issue.
I think that people that aren’t interested in using a red dot don’t mind getting a pistol with a plate. It makes resell much easier.
The training demands have changed with people now practicing the Diken drill at 40 yards. This pistol is good for yesterday.
Bean Dip Willie
Soo, it’s NOT a high power then. 😞
But a good pistol after all.
Good review
Thanks
Could somebody explain please , why the front hole on the slide, around the barrel crown , have to be shaped oval like instead of round ? This looks awful even for cheap pistol despite this one is way over $1K . On 1911s there is a barrel guide bushing , fitted extremely precise to the barrel . Recently I bought CZaccushadow 2 ,where similar ( as on 1911s ) bushing guide is implemented , according to CZ for improved accuracy.
Exactly this oval hole is what stopping me to buy this pistol . And I’m crazy about precisely shooting classic pistols as HiPowers, 1911s and CZs :)
1911s use a different action type. The oval permits the barrel to tilt as the slide moves rearward.
@@GBGuns thanks a lot for your explanation ! I suspected that, but was not sure .On SA 35 on the other hand ,probably the mechanism is if not the same , at least very similar , but there this hole is completely round and relatively tight fitted around the barrel crown , could it be oval from inside and round from outside of the slide end ?
The SA 35 mechanism is a bit different. This modern FN has changed the way the gun operates as you can see when I field strip it.
@@GBGuns Ok , thanks again!
Is a beautiful re design of the iconic BHP, the internal extractor is a big no no for me, such a modern cut of the extraction port with a internal extractor in my opinion dont looks right and reliability wise external extractors are better, Browning MArkIII wins. The finish is no even close to the finish of a Browning, Browning wins . If you show me a 1967 Ford Mustang GT and a 2022 GT you keep the 2022 I take the authentic 1967, same here I take the Browning all day. Browning wins.
Why is the gun no longer cataloged?
It's still on FN's website along with the dealer locator
thanks@@GBGuns
It seems they just modernized the manufacturing methods for the Hi-Power, instead of modernizing the capabilities.
It's so weird that a modernized pistol went backwards to an internal extractor from an external one...one of the hardest things to tune on a 1911 is the internal extractor. The SIG P series went from internal to small glock style to large HK external with dual extractor spring mimicking HK's large extractor spring design with a rubber plug inside the spring. Also weird is that FN went through the trouble of changing an original classic design so much to make it ambidextrous and yet not optic ready, again...with an internal extractor design that eliminates the possibility of a great optic mounting solution. They can still make a crappy mounting solution like Beretta 92's, but definitely not optimal. Es funktioniert nicht so gut.
You don't need a bunch of toys to make a pistol run. I know everyone enjoys the Tacticool fad. But you don't need rails or optics to shoot well.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Thank you!! At least someone agrees!! I get tired of this idea that every gun made has to have a light rail and an optics cut, and those front slide serrations. Not every F@#%'n gun is going fight off some badguy, and even if it did it does have to have a light and a optic to do so. And beside not EVERYONE strictly uses handguns as manly tools to do man things. Some people just like guns. Some people like a all steel handgun with nice a nice clean profile, and don't fit into giving two f$#%'s about the history of it or what war it was used in. I love this thing!!!!