Generation War - Wehrmacht conflict with The SS
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I took out the very end of this scene. Even though it's meaningful and powerful to the point of the scene it's a bit too harsh for youtube.
Yeah makes sense man
@Kyle R TH-cam is a capricious mistress. 1000s of channels are crushed and created everyday. Sometimes it's a complete roll of the dice what they accept and don't accept.
@@JohnnysWarStories yep
Understandable.
*Bang*
Enough said.
Gosh, even the small detail such as a difference in salutes brings such a powerful emotion in this...
I didn’t even pay attention to that. Cool detail.
Yep. It wasn't until after the July 20 plot that Hitler mandated the official salute to be the Nazi salute.
@@laaarsu Also known as the Roman salute.
@@林大為-s9i yep. He took what's epic from a lot of cultures. Swastika being a good looking symbol and the power salute of the Romans.
@@anon6419 aye
So many of you don’t seem to know what happens 10 seconds later. This show was brutal but incredible
*Gives Shoka Kola
A few moments later..
*Shoots
After watching it last night, i know this doesn’t end well
*Pif-Paf*
So what happens? I will never get to see this series, so you may as well spoil it.
@@millsyinnz the wehrmacht officer shoots the kid
I love how they defended her from those thugs. The guy playing the SS Officer really nailed his “indifference” of the massacring of civilians, eating candy like he’s just working a normal job.
Ten seconds later the SS officer shoots the little girl in the head
@@Longinus-pd4btda ist ein großer Unterschied
@@Longinus-pd4bt Isn't it fascinating how everybody yells how evil Germany was, yet all countries did similar things you were never told about. I tend to not believe the history that has been twisted by "journalists" and "new"s agencies to fit their agenda. The propaganda of WW2 is almost on par with Iraq and Afghanistan. But I've labeled a theorist or some other defiling name simply because I can think rationally and don't believe everything I'm told without a second or original thought.
@@tobykornreich2719 not fascinating in the slightest. what is the most german thing of all? keeping proper records. even of unthinkable acts of evil.
@@dmk351 what's the most Western thing of all? Wiping, erasing "proper records" of our own evil and unthinkable acts from "history". We take history for 100% truth with no after thought.
Note how the Wehrmacht Lieutenant salutes like a normal soldier, but the Sturmbannführer does the Hitler greeting.
Technically in German drill the "traditional" salute was the standard, at least in the Heer - The "Hitler greeting" was only required on special occasions or when without headwear.
The series does get this wrong at another point, but perhaps the regulation wouldn't always be followed.
Maybe inaccurate? but still a nice detail
@@JohnsonTheSecond the Hitler greeting only became standard after multiple assassination attempts were made against Hitler that made him very paranoid, so in order to not getting on the Furher's paranoid side and end up facing the wall, many personnels were "advised" to do the "Hitler's salute" to show their loyalty to the state.
Thats because one side is from nazi party and the other side is soldier.
Well he is SS. Though it is still optional to use traditional salute to the Hitler salute, it's much more preferred to use the latter for the SS.
The SS is after just part of the Nazi Party unlike the Wehrmacht who answers to the Reich government itself.
the wermacht didnt use the hiel hitler salute if i remember correctly the ss did
“How honorable for a German officer.”
Dude signed the girl’s death warrant by saying that to a SS.
The girl was dead anyway he kind of insulted an SD officer which is risky enough. That didnt sign the death warrant. Being a jew alone was the death warrant
Dude the little girls fate was already sealed
Bruh, where do you think they were taking her?
@@TheBrothersGoodwin probably a camp or interrogation.
He was mocking him
Might be insignificant, but I love the detail of the sturmbanfuher making a clicking sound to the Ukrainian auxiliary like he’s getting a dog or horses attention. Because even though they allowed Ukrainians into the auxiliary ranks of the SS as police or camp guards, they were still considered lesser and their appointments were more or less stays of execution.
Very true.
SS were true nazis. True Fascists.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Had the Nazis won the war, these "auxiliaries" would have met the same fate as the Jews that they attack in this scene under the concept of Lebensraum.
I don’t think that’s how that worked. Nazism wasn’t just “Kill everything that isn’t German”, they had rankings for who got shot, who got enslaved, and who they could treat like human beings. English people were among the people they treated like human beings, still inferior to the German Aryans who were ‘master race’ but not as bad as the Slavs or the Jews. Slavs actually ranked above Jews and there’s plenty of SS units from Slavic countries which were probably made up of volunteers they considered to have enough ‘Germanic’ blood in them. When you factor Hitler’s background, his book starts making alot of sense since it’s probably what he heard throughout Vienna.
Slovakia (while a puppet) was respected for fighting so bravely and Bulgaria was also an ally and treated like any other ally despite them not doing much on the Eastern Front.
It also wasn't rigid. Racial science and history was very undeveloped back then and German-centric. During the war when they actually got to meet the different peoples of Europe, a lot of views changed. Like the Walloons recognized as Germanics or the Estonians becoming part of the "Aryan community" despite being Finno-Ugric.
Nobody knew about the Indo-Europeans or Yamnaya back then, so most was guesswork or politically motivated
I'd love another German series like this. I like to see other perspectives.
@K LaCoste Yes it is.
You should watch Das Boot a german tv series on Hulu it’s a good show.
@@JohnJohn-pe5kr The submarine movie?
It was a good serie. Been looking for it to see it again.
You'll never see the truth while a certain tribe are the ones making the movies, regardless of the perspective shown
02:26 look at the body language of the SS General. That's already a hint of what's coming.
What about it
@@ill8485 interesting user name
he's a Major
thats not a general
His insignia is sturmbannfuhrer, basically equivalent to a major.
Anybody who has seen Stalingrad (1993) may recognize the SS Officer as the man who played Otto (the one that shot himself in the movie) in the 1993 Stalingrad movie
He also appears in the Deutschland 1983, 86 and 89 series.
Completely underrated movie.
@@dritzzdarkwood4727 Stalingrad 1993? Fuck yeah it is. Its such a good film
Claro que sí, la veo muchas veces y me encanta impecable película alemana 👏👏👏👏
Nice catch...was to busy looking at the uniforms...😏
Pointing the K98k at the kitty. bruh thats kitler
If Hitler found out about it he wold be dead
Hitler would send his dog to get the cat
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@Atompunk nobody in the army gets punished for killing an animal. They burnt down entire villages for the assassination of a Reichsprotektor and killed all the men and sent the women to camps, killed all the pets and animals that were living there.
@@maxoforce2920 Blondi the legend
The SS Officer is eating Sho-ka-kola; German energy Chocolate. Good stuff👍
Lots of caffeine.
I realized that too. Heard it's like a prized delicacy to both the Germans and Americans
@@Valtsuuu caffeine? Wasnt it cocaine or heroin also? Idk just asking
@@commanderadam1835 Yes, caffeine. Germans had these tablets called Pervitin which is more commonly known as methamphetamine. I think scho ka kola never contained any "drugs".
I hear these are still being made today.
Even the tiniest detail of the SS officer eating a chocolate bar increases the intensity of the anger against him by the audience
For some reason, I feel like he is eating dark chocolate.
The SS treats the Holocaust as if it just a Normal Job with a 9 hour shift
“Orders are orders” are a great way of justifying your actions which you want to do anyways, his saying it like he didn’t want to kill her but it was an order, but in reality he wanted to kill her and the order is just a excuse
yes😭😭👍👍🇨🇵
Also the fact if you refused an order from an ss officer they would most likely kill you
Mein gut, vwat a Jerman Basteard !!!
More likely is you’d end up in a Strafbataillon (Penal Battalion), which were sent on suicide missions or mine clearing objectives.
Rommel disliked that…
I respect the German soldiers who kept their humanity. The SS were evil but the German’s were human too and I think many of us forget that.
People love to ignore the fact that not every single German soldier in the Wehrmacht was evil, hell most hated the SS and what they were doing.
Even though the Wehrmacht is not fully clean most of the Wehrmacht soldiers are clean but not some.
No, many of us forget that we are all capable of the same evil. Why else do you think after the War many people suddenly said "I never wanted it!" or "It wasn't my choice!"?
Humanity is divided between the people that choose good and choose evil, but we all know good from evil. Some "evil" people just get really filthy good at living without a conscience, such as these SS Nazi fuckers.
I don't ask you to pardon my language, because my Dutch grandparents hid Jews and have had likely to deal with these types. All I know is my great-grandpa was nearly shot for hiding Jews. It was for another German officer who CHOSE to not proceed with the shooting that kept him from being killed. Because of that, I commend those who choose right over wrong and hate Nazis and the likes.
Over 30 years ago, I spoke to an elderly German coworker that was there during the war, she said "we didn't know", with shame in her voice. Generations later we German American's still get called "Nazi's". my family came over from Germany long before WWII.
Not all the germans were human. Plenty of Germany Army personnel did horrible things in the war, wasnt just the SS.
Der Katzejager was using a postwar Czech rework K98 with the distinctive enlarged winter trigger guard. A minor detail, as this was a really good series overall.
I was honestly wondering why his K98 looked like that. Good eye.
@@liltoaster7308 Der Katzejager = The Cat Hunter lmaooo good troll
Didn't most of those end up getting sold to Israel and rechambered for 7.62 Nato in the 50's?
@@althesmith There was a great deal of German arms and armament that went to Israel after WWII, from rifles to airplanes.
@@liltoaster7308 The 98K is in the Germany Army still in use by the German guard battalion in Berlin, for Presenting.
"This war will bring out the worst in us."
Says Friedhelm Winter who by the end of this series will have been a tired but battle hardened veteran who has helped flush out partisans and executed innocent civilians
Fun fact that SS officer is a member of the Sicherheitsdienst which was the SS intelligence agency.
So much for “collecting intelligence” no wonder they lost.
@@matthewriley7826 if only they put the same amount of effort in to actually winning the war vs killing millions they might have achieved their long term objectives. /s
And in the Rank of a Major...
"SS" means "Schutzstaffel" which was officially indeed something like a "security department" of the NSDAP. But if I remember correctly their true purpose was to hunt down jews in germany and in (from the Wehrmacht) conquered regions during the 2nd world war and destroy them.
The former intelligence agency was the so-called "Gestapo", abbreviation for "geheime Staatspolizei" which meant "secret police of the state".
Yes the SD
Don’t forget: the “clean Wehrmacht” narrative is a total myth. However, it is also true that there were Wehrmacht soldiers and officers who were disgusted by the SS, and this scene is a good representation of that.
This series just tries to humanize the Wehrmacht, not put them in a clean light, like many assume.
Fucking hell, can we just have a movie about the Battle of Castle Itter? None of this bullshit good guy Wehrmacht soldier because this doesn’t happen everywhere, only occasionally.
Anyone wants a good Wehrmacht vs SS story, we need a move about Castle Itter.
Would love that
@@gregorylumban-gaol3889 I second this.
Actually this series does a really good job portraying the humanity side of war. It doesn't sugar coat the Germans or portray them as good. It portrays them as humans caught on the wrong side of history.
Ukrainians were pretty brutal with the polish as well
But as germans we don't talk about the dark times
Thankfuly there were good germans to save everybody
@@Rum-grandpabro can i ask werhmact are the all german people or mixed with other country.cuz i know The nazi SS were national socialist
They would later have an interesting conversation with the NKVD for being nazis
@@tedbed1389Nobody is calling them "good". There is no "good" or "bad". But ukrainians murdered whole villages, and no one really speaks about that
This is why I like watching war movies from BOTH SIDES.
Not everyone wanted to fight and serve as an soldier. Along side this also goes to show the internal strife of Germany. Regular army soldier and SS.
Two completely different parties.
Clean Wehrmacht myth movie, nothing more.
You can never justify German barbarism
@@pyotrbagration2438 as if you'd know what it was like on either side
@@koreancowboy42 Right , in 2022 with information at our fingertips one google search away I have no idea. Silly me.
@@mastluob2554 thats true. And neither can you justify what the soviets did to the poles and germans...
My grandmother told me their family hosted german soldiers (3 officers) in their house in ww2 (Romania, Transilvania, central region), her family was not political or fascist related, they were normal ppl, they hosted them because they were the few families from the village with a house, idk from what arms they were (i think werhmacht acording to some sources, im not 100% sure), she told me they were kind and respectful, she said they not abused them or the civilians in their village, they gave chocolate to the kids, she said they were sad and they were crying some times when they were hearing explosions, a soldier from the group was playing the violin and they were firing their guns in the air (sometimes they drunk), because the russians army were coming from the east with the front, they were in retreat in Transilvania in that times, she was crying remembering them because she thinked they died in the battle later, because after not many days the russians were going fast to the west with the new romanian formed divisions after they turned arms against germany!
Thinked? Broken English.
@@alerojas2952 really? That's what you took from that story?
@@alerojas2952 maybe he knows some languages that you don't even know how.
@@alerojas2952 shut up nerd
Its the same story with chocolate in Poland and whermaht soldiersin. My grandma didnt have the same good opinion on the soviet army thou.
This was absolutely one of the best mini series I've ever seen. Incredible acting, scenarios, casting, music, and storyline.
What’s it called
I remember this scene and it is probably an accurate portrayal of SS Officers, heartless bastards . Where the Wehrmacht soldier was much like the GI , didn’t enjoy the job at task only desiring to return to their families and find them alive and well
Many of these ss officers and troops were just as your GIs as well.
And many from the Einsatzgruppen who shot hundreds of jews every day also hated their job and viewed themselves as the victims coz they had to do that horrible work.
Its quite interesting how perspective can change on that subject.
@@Xingmey I'm not sure if that's true. They were trained to destroy any enemy of the Reich without questioning it and with no hesitation.
If they were around today Germany would still be German
@Leon O'Donoghue Burke Cringe race traitor
@Leon O'Donoghue Burke Then your opinion means nothing you aren’t European and never will be lol
Scenes like this happened many times. there is even an account of a captured US aviator who was also Jewish - SS types wanted to send him to a concentration camp (sure death) and Luftwaffe Officers basically kidnapped him and put him into a POW camp. Once there, he couldn't be touched by the SS. -
SD=Security Service from The SS not SS , SS is Schutzstaffel is almost the same
Genau! Das ist Sicherheitsdienst.
The SD was part of the SS. It was a secret police whose job it was to capture or murder Jews and terrorize and murder any civilian opposition.
@@TheNavalAviator I know but SS is Schutzstaffel and SD Secret Service For SS like a right hand or the Marines In the Navy.
Though the Wehrmacht played a large part in the killing of Jews the SS was doing the bulk of it
I was unaware of the special 'SD' section of the SS until I watched this. The worst of the worst.
Notice they different salutes? Great detail. SS Offiziere (Most definitely a party member) using the Nazi Salute while the Wehrmacht Offiziere is using the universal Military Salute.
What about the cool tiny half Hitler salute "hi" lol
When exactly is this scene supposed to take place? cause i vaguely recall reading that at some point, Hitler ordered the armed forces to use the nazi salute instead of the regular military salute (probably in an effort to exert even more ideological control over the military)
@@thomaskole9881 I think the scene takes place in 1941 or 42 and the order you mean was given in 1944.
@@thomaskole9881this was after the attempted assassination of Hitler that the military was ordered to use this salute
He’s not an SS officer, he’s a Sicherheitsdienst (SD) officer.
The Sicherheitsdienst was an intelligence service in Germany, very similar to the Gestapo.
@voiceofthesovietarmy you answered yourself.
It was a PART.
The Luftwaffe and the KriegsMarine was also a part of the Wehrmacht but they were not the same thing.
Just as the SD and SS. The SD was run by the SS.
So… not the same thing.
He is SS as he wears the SD sleeve diamond which could only be worn by members of the SS assigned to RSHA
@@rjo33040 The SD was the Security service of the SS.
Same structure, same regime, same uniform (almost), same leaders but not same purpose.
The SS what later became the Waffen-SS was meant to fight against Germany’s foes.
On the other hand, the SD was meant to do things, bureaucracy stuff, security and intelligence service for the Reich and of course, ethnic cleansing, just like the Einsatzgruppen, the Ordnungspolizei, etc.
So basically; sister organizations.
Greetings,
I cannot stomach this. This is too much for me, even acting. Thank you for taking the last scene out. What a crazy period that was.
And it still happens in Ukraine. But now they abuse russians.
@@user.Simeon_Maltsev Stop. Be serious for a second my friend. You know that’s not true.
@@user.Simeon_Maltsev if you seriously believe that shit then check out what the Russians are doing in Crimea
@@RAD1111able beating someone for speaking russian is ok fo you?
Or forcing saying there names in ukranian way?
Naming one of "elite" ukranian division Edelweiss to honor nazi allies. Kidnapping people and torturing them by SBU. Shelling civilian districts every day. Just check civilian casulties in Ukraine and Donbass region. And youll see ho is terrorists...
@@RAD1111able What are Russians doing in Crimea? Same as everywhere else. Build schools, bridges, hospitals
The SS was that dude that we all know that has the most punchable face😂
Good thing that the guy smoking the cigarette later shoots him in episode 3 ;)
Also that's Tim Schilling.
He played many soldiers and young Nazis in recent movies. Like in Napola for example. And he always gets these 'well.... it sucks to be german soldier in ww2 and i jate doing this shit' roles.
He is quite good at it
Not SS. He was SD which means even worse
@@b4nterontilt245 SD by extension was SS. It actually didn't matter which branch you belonged to, you were subjugated to the same policies even as a foreign volunteer brigade.
Nah just to you. Now get a life kid
@@b4nterontilt245 You do realize the SD was simply the intelligence service of the SS, right? It's not some other organization.
I know that there actors but there pretty good at it too ( the civilians and auxiliary police I mean )
The myth of clean Wehrmacht was fostered during the cold war, the Wehrmacht was complicit and took part in many of the atrocities.
So what? Please tell me what army did not commit atrocities in WW2? Don't hurry, I'll wait.
Exactly, they keep blaming SS for everything, and even portray in movies how everyone in Germany hated SS and NSDAP.
@@jacobhollback2879the Germans had the principal goal of mass killing and total extermination of Jews Slavs Gypsies Homo and ill. That is the difference. Netter Versuch though.
@@jacobhollback2879 plenty of armies which didnt participate in the biggest genocide in human history. Stop being dumb
@@jacobhollback2879Oh Jakob nazi lover
The answer the the question about the Wehrmacht is simple, and well explained in the original first movie “Stalingrad”. A soldier who refused to follow an order tells a Wehrmacht officier claiming to no being a nazi: “ you are worst than Nazis… you are an officer, you knew who was at the helm and what they wanted to do, and you did follow them… so do not claim to be innocent in any way”. I fully agree with that.
The Schutzstaffel was its own paramilitary organization which had infighting with the Wehrmacht. Many officers and soldiers of the Wehrmacht didn't like killing innocent jewish civilians, they had sympathy and wanted to spare them. Whilst the SS wanted to completely eliminate them, this is a good video representing how the Wehrmacht didn't want to kill people like that. They were just fighting and serving their nation.
Some of them did like slaughtering Jewish civilians anyway in the Wehrmacht at least 50000 Jewish Red army POWS were weeded out and killed by the Wehrmacht and often worked together with the Einsatgruppen to shoot Jews in pits and ravines which resulted about 2 million Jews died in the Soviet Union
The Myth of a clean Wehrmacht started to be challenged by historians from the 1960s to this present day from the Commissar order to the execution and killing of partisans to the deliberate maltreatment and murder of 3.3 million soviet pow and the murder of 10 million soviet civilians
Your telling me the Wehrmacht didn’t spare up to 10 million Soviet women raped by the Wehrmacht itself while the 6th Army took part in a two day killing in Babi Yar ravine where 33000 Jews were murdered in two days.
@@MarcusRashford-tw2fo Okay so the Babi Yar massacre was ordered by SS, the Wehrmacht didn't partake in that it was SS Squadrons who slaughtered Ukrainian neighborhoods.
@@pakhanmisha3296 Generalmajor kurt eberhard ordered the massacre of Babi yar I didn’t mean the Wehrmacht carried out the shootings at Babi yar
This shows that not every soldier was evil. Yes, many were, especially the SS, but regular soldiers had a sense of humanity.
No the SS were good people if hitler did not start a war
If those " good men" stood up against the AUSTRIAN furer, Hitler the foreigner for being non-GERMAN.
world war 2 should have been prevented.
What is evil?
Is when good people allow a foreigner to rule them, dictate them all to massacre innocent people.
We cant be good if we just follow orders from a racist, angry person like Hitler. We become just like who we follow.
It also shows that no allied soldiers were good either
The Wehrmacht was a professional army, the SS was a political organization. After this scene the SS Officer shoots the girl, and Friedhelm and the other soldier are disgusted & horrified.
Finally a show gets the Uniforms right. The SD ( Sicherheitsdienst ) of the SS weapon color was Giftgrün "Poison Green", which you can see at the Shoulder Boards of the SS Officer.
this has aged like fine wine
yeah, goes to show that even Ukranians were part of the greater evil. Completely complex of course.
I loved these show. We need more from the other side.
Well, this aged like wine
SS is the type of sibling that hits the wermacht randomly then cries.
Just a little correction: It was an SD officer. Not a SS officer. Hence the black "Kragenspiegel" without SS-runes and only an empty black field.
@@megatwingo sd was part of the schutzstaffel. When it come to the right collar tabs the SS had many things to put there, like a key for the LSSAH AH, or a Scandinavian swastika for the Nordland division. It doesn't mean that if there're no SS runes it ain't SS. What's common about all the SS personnel uniforms was everything else. To the sleeve eagle to the rank tabs with Stars and streaks in a black background.
@@okidokiliteratureclub706
Thanks for those informations!
The best show seen from the German perspective. Loved their stories.
Tom Schilling - one of the best German actors 😊
2:34 Pretty much signed his own death warrant.
Better die defying unreasonable orders than to follow orders that are wrong
1:54 And who do we all see with a bandage on his arm? how come, this can’t be true, these are poor Ukrainians
Tens of thousands of Russians fought for the Nazis as well.
There were thousands of collaborators against several millions in the Red Army.
You should upload clips from the 1993 movie "Stalingrad"
You want a report? The Russian boy’s name was Kolya. And his name was GG Mueller. Like many others.
You can still make up for this!
**KICK**
AAAAAAAAH!!!!
Did you notice that scream at 1:14? Its the same scream from Spiderman 1 wenn Tobey tries ti save a Life in the burning house but instead its green goblin an he screams at spidey haha
Is that ukrainian flag on his arms?
Yes, Armbands with the colors of a nation they represent was pretty common in Europe. Not just used by the NSDAP and the SS but also use by the auxiliary police in this scene and in the French resistance
this is true friendship and respect for each other, we should all be good people like that
I think something happens after 10 seconds of this lol
10 seconds later: gives shoka kola then shoot
Wehrmacht: we commit warcrimes but we don't enjoy it.
SS: we also commit warcrimes. AND we enjoy it
I have the feeling this scene would cause a massive shitstorm if this was released today…
A majority of Ukraine aided and perpetrated atrocities.
The auxiliaries did in the east. But it was the same Ukrainians who fought with the red army that beat the Nazis back to Berlin.
no, most of the OUN and whatnot were from western Ukraine, not so many supporters in the center of Ukraine and the east was Russophone.
A majority also fought with the Red Army and helped liberate the Ukraine SSR ans proceeded to send these traitors to the NKVD.
unimaginably, collaborators existed in ww2 and they committed atrocities
ukrainian, belarussian, russian, latvian, lithuanian, estonian, romanian, hungarian, french, and jewish collaborators in the judenrat
first and foremost - enabled by the nazi regime and the german army
let's not use ww2 as an excuse to hate on nationalities
So many didn’t know the difference between the Wehrmacht and the ss
it's not SS but SD here
@@b4nterontilt245 SD is part of SS.
The Wehrmacht was not clean and innocent. And you didn't have to be a Nazi or SS to commit crimes. There's a bit of revisionism by former German soldiers that has warped the history, at least in general terms on the Eastern front.
The German police "Ordinary Police" were non-Nazi former policemen yet they were responsible for as much as 10% of the Jews killed.
And the Allies weren't too clean themselves
@Bobonmyprimejr what did the Allies do? Holocaust?
@@MustadMarine no many Ally Soldiers did commit war crimes every side did Also The Wehrmacht weren't responsible for the Holocaust the SS and Hitler were
@@MustadMarine Civilian air raids, murdering prisoners of war, mutilating bodies and taking body parts as souvenirs, sinking of hospital ships and much more.
Imo this one of the best war movies out there. If you haven't seen it you need to.
Little did they know they would fight face to face in Castle Itter
Only the LT survives this movie 😉
Yeah wehrmacht were scared of SS
Actually castle itter was the most popular battle between Wehrmacht and SS, in the final months of the war there were multiple small skirmishes between Wehrmacht and SS as the Germans realized they were losing but the SS were so brainwashed into believing Germany could never lose so the Wehrmacht finally started fighting back
@@nazgulthedeathless9403 lol what a load of bullshit , wehrmacht was in many ways worse then the SS , just read about the crmes on the eastern front.
@@noraswe that may be true but that didn’t apply to all of Wehrmacht, the SS on the other hand..
Average day in Ukraine
What a nice officer, I sure hope nothing bad happens to the girl.
Pretty sure she's safe and outlives the war.
What is the movie name
She got executed by the SS Officer seconds after
@@Jose-cy7od no shit
This aged like wine.
At 0:58 they both seem very confused at 1:31 they seemed very shocked at what's happening and then at 1:43 they are purely enraged and at 1:49 they mean serious business to the guy of don't put her down .this is something we must not forget that not all Germans where bad during the war and they definitely where my the cold hatred killers they're all made out to be . And in fact ( no offense ) the americans where always portrayed at some point in movies killing soldiers who are trying to surrender like in saving private ryan but there are examples here of "bad" Germans like the general at 2:27 who just doesn't seem to give a crap what happens but it makes ya think waht are the auxiliary police doing this huh?
This comment is underrated.
R u little crazy 😆😆?
My grandfather's division, the 36th of the Texas National Guard, produced the soldiers who fought alongside disaffected Wehrmarcht troops against SS officers at the Battle of Castle Itter
At 0:50 and beyond, the heroes of modern Ukraine are shown.
Those who don't know : 😌🤝
Those who know : 💀☠️
In Germany this Movie is called "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter".
Our Mothers, Our Fathers
I noticed they’ve changed the subtitles to exclude mention of Ukrainians in the current version.
Hmmmmmm why??? Rhetorical question
Hm that's interesting
ukrainians in war were bests
and now europe give those bendarites (the ukrainian auxiliary police) weapons again (germany and others)
I was looking for comments like this. So sure all germans are today nazis too right????
Oh my gosh. I watched the first few episodes of this show five years ago, but forgot what it was called and tried to find it again, but couldn’t. I didn’t understand what was happening then, but now I do.
lmfao the Wehrmacht were not innocent bystanders to the massacres. They were active participants
Remember the "Rheinwiesen", the US were active participants!
Everyone had their own share of atrocities. However, there is no denying that the SS was worse than the Wehrmacht. They would clash with each other quite frequently.
@@m1co294 Not in the East or in the Balkans. Wehrmacht was responsible for most atrocities there, not SS.
Ukronazis?
Whats wrong?
Ah yes, the good, innocent Wehrmacht... and the evil SS...
Mostly a myth. The Werhmact was as evil as the SS.
Based SS*
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this was a really good scene. the acting is crazy good
Note the Ukrainian auxiliary police - UNA/UPO, those guys are rising their head now again
Also, Unsere Mütter Unsere Väter is just brilliant series
And now some Ukrainian units are wearing SS insignia again. Tragic.
And 6 million ukrainians fought in the Red army. And know they defend their proud nation against the New tsar. Good for them
@@sH-ed5yf True!
So are the founders of Wagner, who is now dead
They cut the scene just before the SS guy shoots the girl in the head to the horror of our guys.
this aged well
You do realize that the majority of Ukrainians were forced against their will to work with the SS otherwise face execution. Not to mention Bandera sided with Nazi Germany because It was his only chance of getting Ukraine to be independent from the Soviets however the Nazis betrayed him and the OUN ended up fighting both Nazis and Soviets. Ukrainians today are very different from 80 years ago. They’ve literally overwhelmingly elected a Jewish president and are now being invaded by an imperialist and colonialist neighbor. Using your logic the Russians were always Nazis too because they literally sided with the Nazis before being betrayed. The Soviets trained Nazi pilots, marched with them and even invaded Poland with them.
You mean how Ukrainian nationalists attack other Ukrainians for the "good of their nation and independence."? Yes it sure did.
Respect however to the German soldiers that tried to stop them.
@@Infiltrator_nvaded Poland at 17th of September the day when polish government ran away like cowards, And country itself fallen. Love that polish lovers who forget the fact that Poland also cooperated with Hitler against Czechoslovakia
This Wehrmacht officer pointed out that everything that happens in combat zones is under the jurisdiction of the army. This german bureaucracy.. It’s so familiar to me haha
That SS officer was so kind, he spared the little girl and even gave her chocolate and copper candy.
For reasons I cannot understand this video cuts of early. A few seconds later he shoots the girl.
Ukraine citadel of democracy))))) there is no nazis in ukraine - baerbock said))))
The film is not set in the present and back then 80 years ago there were also two Russian SS divisions, the 29th and 30th Waffen Grenadier Divisions of the SS.
@tomtas6999 after ussr collapsed in the 90s nazis came back to ukraine,
They've been saved by allies and were living in Canada.
@@tomtas6999thats not it. Modern Ukraine directly praises Bandera calling him a hero. Meanwhile even Poland condemn their collaborators. Feel the diffrence?
Oh yeah, Ukranians…..
Look up how many Russians fought for Germany. Will be surprised, you Russian bot😂😂😂😂😂
Ukrainians..
You obviously didn’t watch this series and didn’t see how Russians were shown in it
Really liked this series. It showed all those little details and did not just paint it black and white.
The SS vs all other factions in a nutshell:
That one kid in the class who asks the teacher for homework
Have you seen the Arm Band Ukainian Flag
Yes, and you know how many Belgians, Netherlanders, Norwegians, Dannish, French, Spanish, Italian and even British were in SS units and wear Swastikas on their arms? There are twisted people everywhere!
@@davidkandr8251 But they still there.The Azov Batallion is like the KKK have a Batallion in the National Guard think about that and the Right Sector Party is Part of the Goverment .Cavelin to Neonazis today,Stinger Missile to the Mudschahidin Yesterday.We arm everybody to the Thees because they shoot Russians don´t work out well in the Past wasn´t it ?
It’s literally a show that glorifies the “clean Wehrmacht” myth.
Imagine the horror of having to watch soldiers of your own nation carry out such evil actions? It would be hard to live with. Many seem without conscience.
Same ukrainians running that country today...
did the ss use ukrainians against jews?
The nazis used all the sympathisers the could get
SS auxiliary’s were made up of people from all across Europe
@Erik Limoncin wow, karma really does the spin thing
at the wars end they used them (usually like super uneducated) especially for deathcamp guards, as the german guards were evacuated into the interior to protect them from advancing allies. lithuanians were also a popular choice
@@the11sage, the next karma should probably come to Poland, because in one of the series the Polish resistance shot Jews. Аnd then to the Russians, after all, the series portrayed how their army raped German women. God, what kind of people are cruel and stupid in words, sometimes I wonder🤦🏽♂️
This was a good series but this scene is just "Clean Wehrmacht Myth" BS. It is just another lame obligatory need to tell it from the other side point-of-view that not every German soldier was "evil." A regular German Heer soldier wouldn't have stepped in, even if on some level he disagreed because they knew they would be subject to being branded collaborators and faced being arrested. The fact is most didn't disagree and the Heer was responsible for just as many war crimes as the SS. IT wasn't until after the war they started the Clean Wehrmacht Myth that it was ONLY the SS involved with acts like this.
Nothing more sexy than German uniforms.
I can think of a lot of more sexy things.
except soviet uniforms of course.
Here's what happened, it's summer 1941. The guys in steel helmets are regular German soldiers. The guys with Ukrainian markers are collaborators. The guy with the cap he's an SD man. His military name, his unit is Einzatsgruppen, Action Group. The SD units followed the regular army, and shot and killed Communists functionary, Polish Intelligencias, and Jews. Lots and lots of Jews. Their nominal boss was Reinhard Heydrich. His boss was Himmler.
If you looked carefully at the officers left sleeve, there's a black diamond with SD stitched on it. These death squads were the fore-runner to the extermination camps. Shooting was distressing and messy. The Ukrainian collaborators knew where Jewish communities were in their villages, ect. I saw this video a couple of years ago in it's entirety.
Really want to see this series, what's it streaming on ??
Netflix germany, if this is on netflix of other countries too you should search for "generation" war or "unsere mütter unsere väter"
@@likeaplatypus8909 cheers fella, much appreciated 👏
@@shaunoakman5609 I've been watching it on Amazon Prime Video, if you have that. I'm from the US so idk if it'll be different for your location
@@i-dislike-handles hi Alex, I've got prime, but still can't seem to find it ??
@@shaunoakman5609 If you aren't using it, use the Prime Video app. If you are and still can't find it then I don't know what else you can do
The types of men Germany is in dire need of today
Only courage and patriotism. And please , no more gray uniforms with skulls stamped on it.😅💀
@@Steverogers-s8k I think they are still using the skulls. Is like a old Prussian symbol
Losing two wars wasn't enough for you?
@@prooijtje Europe lost the war that is for certain
@@prooijtje Who's talking about another war. We simply need men amd women who are proud of their country. That doesnt mean they need to attack others to prove it.
Jesus Christ. Why upload the clip without the end ? The girl gets shot by the SS officer.
Because TH-cam would just remove it then.
@@Omega0850 No, they did not removed the other video which contains the scene where that girl getting shot
I wonder if the guy wearing a skull on his uniform ever thought "am I the bad guy?"
Dude! You're extraordinary awesome
The Wehrmacht and the SS were two separate armies and command structures
They didn’t take or give orders to each other
They even had a separate military justice system. The Hauptamt SS-HA
Hollywood tends to forget this when making movies
Waffen SS units were under Wehrmacht command most of the war. And this is a German movie, not Hollywood cr4p.
1. Ukrainian fascism is still celebrated in Ukraine today. Bandera, the Ukrainian politician who struck the deals with the Nazis, is held in high esteem by high-ranking figures. Doesn't justify the Russian attack, but adds a different layer to it which is rarely talked about in the mainstream media.
2. The conflict between Wehrmacht and SS as portrayed here is largely an illusion. The movie got a lot of criticism from German historians as it retells common myths after WW2 whereas the Wehrmacht is "clean" and all the crimes can be put on the SS. The Wehrmacht generals knew about the Holocaust and often subscribed to the ideology underlying it.
Show doesn't portray the "clean Wehrmacht myth" We literally see one of the 2 main characters who are soldiers execute civilians and dump their bodies in a mass grave.
What could the Wehrmacht do even if they didn't support what the nazis were doing
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army
The ROA numbered 130k men. Russian combat collaborators far outnumbered Ukrainians. Don’t push the Ukrainian “collaboration” narrative.
Bandera was sent to German concentration camp in 1941. Yes, he co-worked with Abwehr before, but he after claimed restoration of Ukrainian state (yes, even as Germany's ally), germans started mass arrests and persecution of Bandera's faction of OUN (btw, two Bandera's brother died in Auschwitz). Yes, all that movement eventually was dark and bloody, but it doesn't make them "nazi collaborators", "fascists" or other shit.
Churchill is held is high esteem yet he killed many in the Bengal Fammine and even sent tanks and gunships against hisnpen protesting people
You can see full scene here:
th-cam.com/video/WXfYTgurtZ4/w-d-xo.html
I had always wondered why the Ukrainian auxiliary police were such eager participants in the holocaust, but then I went on to remember that severe antisemitism was not uncommon in Europe as a whole. Every country the nazis occupied, they found many individuals who were willing to support them, from France, to Yugoslavia, to Ukraine, to Hungary, and I'm sure pretty much anywhere in Europe, in many cases long before the nazis even rose to power.
Also, mostly they painted it as a red vs blue type situation, us vs the communists, Europeans vs the red plague. So many countries had suffered under the Soviets that they joined in and just followed orders. It didnt matter to them, the only thing that mattered was independence, which the germans offered in exchange for their service
@@balticbvll2987 "had suffered under the Soviet" I think you have confused the timeline. Unless I am wrong, Soviets ruled the Baltics for like one year only before Germany invaded the Soviet Union so there is no correlation. Also the "red plague" / Communist uprising originated in the Baltics as well and contributed in the creation of the Soviet Union itself.
Some alliances happened for different reasons. For example Poland allied with Hitler because, it wanted to annex its neighbors and reach "great power status" but other than that, the brief and ill fated Polish -Nazi Germany alliance/alignment was not based on ideology or independence. W. Ukraine wanted to purify the state so they commited the polish genocide (again unrelated to communism), so all these collaborators had different agendas and reasons for sticking together.
@@dimel1347 The soviet Union still invaded the baltics. Not to mention the holodomor in Ukraine, caucasus and Kazakhstan.
The problem with such films is that when the Russians make a film, the Germans in them are impersonal robots whose goal is to die in batches. When such films are made by the Germans, then the Russians will already be impersonal robots, who will also die in batches.
The same situation is observed with American films, in which the squad saving private Ryan in the number of 10 people - for the entire film destroyed an entire battalion of Germans - at least...
In my opinion, such films should be shot together, so that each side contributes its own mentality to the impersonal dummies on each side, because WW2 is a tragedy of two great peoples of Germany and the USSR, no side of WW2 has suffered as many losses as the Germans and Russians...
Russian Russian films should be shot together, so that each side contributes its own mentality to the impersonal dummies on each side, because WW2 is a tragedy of two great peoples of Germany and the USSR, neither side of WW2 suffered as many losses as the Germans and Russians, and in such films both Russians and Germans should show the tragedy of the peoples and not be angry, as if dancing on the bones... It's good that this film shows the difference between ordinary Wehrmacht soldiers and Hitler's chain dogs-SS detachments. A modern person should understand the nature of WW2 and know how an entire country (Germany) was inclined to aggression by one tyrant and, in fact, buried its future during a war with the whole world...
The officer is RSHA which is not actually apart of the SS, but they share uniforms and ranks.
1:13 im pretty sure i heard that sound effect in the first Spiderman movie
Could be like a Wilhem screan
Yes that spider man movie stole those effects from here 😏