hey everyone I noticed that this video is getting a lot of attention so I wanted to say a few things first off that this whole show is free to watch on tubi it’s a great and long show and hella accurate to the actual campaign of Gallipoli and second of all I know it sounds cheesy but if you could subscribe and and least leave a view on my other videos that be great thanks and yes I do read every comment
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@@dscrappylocogolani9555 Zero coordination between the branches and the navy using a different time system leading to the naval bombardment stopping far too early.
When you literally sending your soldiers to sensless death even your enemies start begging you to stop from other trench and cries for the soldiers dying.
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.” Atatürk, 1934
Fun fact: As this was supposed to be a diversionary attack, Major General Alexander Godley ordered that the troops charge with unloaded rifles. The intent was that the charges were to be carried out with bayonnets and hand grenades only, to prevent the troops from stopping to fire and thus increase the chances of them reaching the Ottoman positions. While preliminary naval and artillery bombardment of the trenches held by the Ottomans took place, they ceased a few minutes early due to non-synchronization of timepieces. The Australians began their assault at the scheduled time, however, which allowed the Ottomans to re-occupy their positions and defend them. The results, obviously, were not satisfactory, with the 600 Australian light horsemen suffering 372 casualties for zero gain.
3 x waves of 150 men, by the 3rd wave they new they were facing almost certain death, the movie Gallipoli captures it best. The guys then went to the Western Front and the disaster of Fromelles which was an even bigger massacre. To the people of Turkey, thank you for looking after our fallen. I spent 2 months traveling through Turkey and was always met with kindness .
That's what I find interesting about Turkey - we fucking tried to invade them a century ago, and they've been nothing but cool about it. Turkish soldiers guard and participate in the ANZAC Day ceremony in Çanakkale, they treat all visitors like friends, and their food is amazing.
"Johnny Turkey was ready. He primed himself well. He showered us with bullets, and he rained us with shells. And in 5 minutes flat, he blew us all to hell. Nearly blew us right back to Australia."
And the Band played Waltzing Maltilda. as we stopped to bury our slain. And we buried ours and the Turks buried theirs, and it started all over again. THose who were living? Just tried to surive, in the mad world of Blood, Death & Fire. for 10 weary weeks I kept myself alive, while around me the corpes piled higher. Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head, and when I awoke in me hospital bed, I saw what it had done, I wished I were dead...never knew there were worse things than dying. For no more will I go Waltzing Matilda, all raound the green bush far and near. For to hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs. No more Waltzing Matilda for me
They collected the cripples, the wounded and Maimed And they shipped us back home to Australia The legless, the armless, the blind and insane Those proud wounded heroes of Sulva And as our ship pulled into circular quay, I looked at the place where me legs used to be And thank Christ there was nobody waiting for me…to grieve and to mourn and to pity And the band played Waltzing Matilda, as they carried us down the gangway. But nobody cheered, they just stood and stared…And they turned all their faces away
Two thirds of the brigade were casualties. Nearly a half died in action or of their wounds. No senior officers paid for the disaster. Instead they were promoted and given honors. Many of the dead were not recovered and buried until four years later.
War isn't that simple. Maybe it was a feint attack to draw reserves away from another sector where an attack or amphibious landing was to take place. Communications were pretty shite in them days and these weren't professional trained officers and soldiers who can carry out complex manoeuvres. It was still a waste of young life obviously.
I wish peace to all soldiers who lost their lives here in Turkish soil. I have been called by the Turkish Army for the mandatory service today. I'll be respectfull to anyone regardless of race, sexual oriantation and reliigon.
I am a Turk living in Istanbul. I have visited Gallipoli twice with my kids. I have 2 ancestors killed in battles in Gallipoli; brothers of my great great parents. They were 21 and 27 years old. I have visited their burial sites. Turkish soldiers had to face similar situations many times as depicted in the movie.
I am pretty sure my great uncles did not see any single armenian in their life time as they are from central steppes of Anatolia, and I believe you can do better to help Armenians instead of bringing all topics to Armenian problem that we buried to the ground literally and figuratively a hundred years ago, and only we hear pathetic whiny moans under TH-cam videos. You can go to Karabakh to stand alongside Armenians and face the consequences. @@universalis8208
@@universalis8208 That's why Armenia denied to investigate what happened to Armenians in Anatolia. Stop believing what American Woke gave you and search yourself. You actually believing what Kim Kardashian claimed a nonsense, pathetic. The who attempted a holocaust were Armenians against Turkish villagers aka "Innocents".
Women want to be equal to men? Insanity. Men can be monsters and poets. This is dark and a shame that the military was too rigid to the point of being useless. RIP mates.
The sad thing is, they hadn't figured out the tactics to do anything else. That WAS the only tactic. You can see in the newer histories that the generals were desperately trying new ways to get around it, and they all ended... well like this. Industrial warfare is just industrial mass slaughter with mass casualties, and even today we don't really have a good answer to it (see ukraine).
@@thebreadboy0419 Mate, the commander of the 3rd Light Horse Brigade (the guys getting killed) was an australian. Get your facts from proper sources and not tv shows
No mainly the stupidity of the Gallipoli invasion as well as the battle of the Nek. The WWI-style infantry charges are the most effective only with artillery support. The British decision to land at Gallipoli was a haste operation with severe underestimation of the Turkish army, and they used ANZAC troops as expendables which contributed to this scene.
@@longxiao9823 Well underestimating the Ottoman army was a rather understandable thing given that they had been soundly defeated during the Balkan Wars by much smaller nations and Italy before that. And the ANZACs were not treated as expendable, no general ever treats any of his troops as expendable, that would just be a waste any idiot can see that.
9:53 The Turkish perspective adds that extra layer to this depiction of the Nek. In Peter Weir's Gallipoli, you get fleeting glances of the Turkish fighters because this is an Australian movie, an Australian perspective. From all accounts, the Turkish never celebrated or displayed glee over the victory. They were somber, mourning the loss as much as the Australians. There was no objective achieved. Everyone lost that day.
not only that but you can see the boss who keeps saying "Push on" looking like he regrets what he is saying but he keeps saying "We have our orders" meaning likely hood he probably does not want to send these men out to death, yet he has to and there is nothing he or the army can do about it.
Today there is a memorial at the place, erected by the turks and with the words of Mustafa Kemal, the turkish general. It reads: "Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives! You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
It's said that the first wave was wiped out within 30 seconds. The second wave within a minute- And since the General refused to call off the assault? The third wave soon followed the same fate. Over 30 Machine guns covered the Nek in depth, some say it was some of the fiercest fire the Australians faced in the Gallipoli battle.
@Jamon Hartzer I read that the fourth wave accidentally stepped off- as in, they started the assault prematurely by accident and the rest of the wave ended up trying to follow into the attack and ate the same fate. A bloody time To be a young military age male.
and it is said only 3 men out of all 4 waves made it to the Ottoman Firing range. Absolute waste of young men's lives Turns out one was hit in the ankle and crawled all of the way back to their trench
I have a question. I have always heard that there was a report that said an Australian army flag in the Turkish tranches. Is this even true? I personally hasn’t looked it up.
@@barackobama0101 I've read the same thing; That they didn't cancel the waves because there were rumors that the Aussie flag had been spotted at the forward trenches of the Turkish. In my opinion? That could A: Been a very, very small handful that made it trying to get help, B: The Turks using a captured flag as deception to lure more into the meat grinder, or C: A product of the fog of war and personal hopes. You hope to see what your mind wants you to see- But in reality, it wasn't there. But those are just my opinions on it having read into the same thing!
I am a very patriotic Turk. I visited Gallipoli just 4 days ago. I visited all the fronts.. I prayed.. This was a dramatic war as well as proud for us.. We defended our lands at the cost of our lives and it will be like this forever.. Still, it was enough to make me cry when an enemy soldier died young, perhaps without even knowing what it was for. .. I hope we never experience such things again.. Whatever happens, we are human and we are brothers..
A pointless war fought between Europeans that the Ottoman Empire had no business in entering. The empire was in serious decline and worse still stood nothing to gain from it even if the Central Powers had won. The only silver lining is that the empire finally collapsed once and for all because of it and Ataturk, one of the greatest statesmen of all time, was able to take the reigns and modernise Turkey. Sad that his legacy is being trampled on in modern Turkey, and sick that he is worshipped by the people who'd make him turn in his grave.
@@shaddaboop7998 Ataturk literally destroyed what was once a proud Muslim empire. He pushed secularism that has since wreaked havoc on Turkey. I'm glad that some modern Turks are finally portraying Ataturk as the villain that he was.
Makes one circumspect when you remember that the best of Western Victoria went over the top at the Nek with the 8th Light Horse Regiment. The 8th featured a literal roll call of some of the most prominent 'squatocracy' family names, Austin, Mack, Urquhart and numerous settler families and scions of Melbourne society. Makes you wonder what would've been if they survived? And of the survivors? No wonder Paul McGinness, co-founder of Qantas Airlines, became aimless and displayed all the symptoms of PTSD after the war, dying in obscurity aged 55. He was knocked out it the first wave, surviving the day on no man's land and making it back into the trenches at night. The impact on the 8th was so great that those who survived or were 'off the line' for the charge often were promoted due to the need to reinforce the Regiment with replacement officers and NCOs An example of this was my own great grandfather, who hadn't even landed on Gallipoli when the charge occurred. He was an acting Sergeant in one of the 8th LHR reinforcement cycles and landed on the peninsula on the 16th August (9 days after the charge) as a Corporal, quickly rising to Squadron Sergeant Major in the Sinai campaign. Lest we forget
Of the 300 men of the Eighth Light Horse Regiment, 264 men were killed or wounded. Even their Colonel - Alex White was killed in the first line. There is a small memorial to him in Brighton Cemetery Melbourne, and at the beach head of Cole St Brighton where he lived in prior to the War in Brighton. The house he lived in at No 11 is still there.
I have met Paul McGinness's descendant who lives near Warrnambool. A very good chap to know and passionate about the 8th Light Horse and his ancestor. According to a diary kept by another 8th Light Horseman at the time, Paul exhibited odd behaviour from that battle even during the war. War is so cruel to men. Brings out the best and the worst in men.
I did my thesis on this. So many myths, but with deeper research you get a clearer picture. Ottoman records do indeed indicate that a section of trench was taken and held for some time by a handful of these light-horsemen. The Ottomans did try to get them to surrender but they refused and were eventually overwhelmed. None of the supporting waves were able to reach them in support. During 9 months of field research in the 1980s I was lucky to find the remains of a pith helmet only a couple of meters from the first Ottoman trench. There is too much romanticizing of the Gallipoli campaign. It was a dirty, filthy war. Only remembered with pleasure by those who experienced a worse nightmare on the Western front.
@@Adonnus100 I did most of my primary schooling in New Zealand. One of our teachers of our teachers was a Gallipoli veteran. He was still there when we left at the end of 1976. I believe he was teaching till about 1983. I remember seeing him march on ANZAC Day, in our town. All the vets were in various groups, except for one, elderly Maori gentleman, named Parki Withers. Parki was marching alone. So, I asked our cub leader, why Mr Withers was alone. She said, it was because he was not a WWI or WWII veteran. He was a veteran of the Boer War! Parki was 92 then. He marched as briskly as the Korean War vets and lived alone, without assistance. Years later, in Australia, we heard that Parki had huge celebration for his 100th birthday. There was plenty of wine, women, and song. Parki was found dead the next morning, with a smile on his face. I went back to the town in 2015. About a half dozen times, different people told me that Parki was smiling, when he died. True.
@mombaassa What a wonderful story about old Parki. The British and any allies of theirs that took part suffered severe losses. The boers in South Africa almost invented guerilla warfare. The old rank and file days of the British soldier was over.
One of the most devastating depictions of going over-the-top I've seen on screen. You can really sense the expendable nature of such warfare when each wave ends quickly with no gain and bringing another batch up. Absolutely no cover too, it's heartbreaking.
My great great aunt lost her husband at quite a young age. My nana told me that when she was a child she asked her why she didn't remarry. She was told that there wasn't anyone to marry, as so many people of her generation were all wiped out during the war. In the small town she lived in they lost more than the average
The thing is, this mini series highlighted a real issue with war back then and even now. The commanding officers know what's happening, they feel it all yet they are helpless. If they disobey the orders of their superiors they are court marshaled and almost always found guilty. People like Ian Hamilton (who was not and is no Sir) are the real enemy. Political pawns who don't care how many men die. Hamilton was exactly that. He didn't care about anyone but himself. That's why those below him ended up moving to have him ousted. I might be biased as an Australian, but I don't see how that man was honorable. Those below him who took a stand had more honor in the end than he ever did. I remember when we did the centenary at school, all of us who were 16 or older were separated from the younger grades in an attempt to show how many people you went to school with would have enlisted. When they showed during the assembly how many there were in terms of how big your school is it put things into perspective. Myself and all my friends were 16 in 2015 and when you consider that this was the youngest age where you could legally enter war back then it made you think of the absolute hell people that age would have went through and demonstrates how lucky we are today to have witnessed no major wars in some years and have tighter laws that protect the common people.
There are a great many things wrong with this post. But, just picking on one in particular, you seem to be suggesting that Sir Ian Hamilton 'didn't care about anyone but himself'. I'm sure you know this from your extensive research, but in the summer of 1918 the highly decorated Australian officer Albert Jacka VC wrote to Hamilton a letter in which he concluded, 'As a member of the Australian Imperial Force, I feel that I need scarcely say how I look forward with very great pleasure to renewing my acquaintanceship with the first General the Force ever served under [i.e. Hamilton], and also one who was held in such high esteem by all ranks. Yours sincerely, Bert Jacka.' You may not think he was 'honourable' but the Australian troops who served under him certainly did. I prefer their judgement of the man over yours.
@@henrypulleine8750 Our troops had been taught to respect him. Just because they thought he was honourable, doesn't mean he was. Culture back then was very different to today. We don't have a nation which we regard as our motherland. All those brave soldiers did and they believed they were dying for king and country. Some diaries say that. You also forget that our troops were lied to time and time again by Hamilton. If Hamilton made it more a mission to create a better strategy in Gallipoli as opposed to trying to stop Bean and Murdoch revealing the disaster of the campaign then maybe it would have been different. Had he done his job instead of worrying about a few journalists who were trying to defeat the propaganda instead of creating propaganda like todays 'journalists'. Ian Hamilton did many things wrong and in the end, the fact that many of his comrades didn't see him fit to lead anymore. There was no doubt that prior to Gallipoli he was effective, however Gallipoli showed he his age or something in him went wrong. He lost his way and effectiveness, thus losing integrity. This is stuff we learn only after war. Of course he was held in high esteem back then. It was a completely different time.
Some unfortunate points of view here. Please deepen your research into Hamilton. Gallipoli was my research masters thesis and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on his strengths and weaknesses. By the standard of generals at the time, Hamilton was a top tier commander. His weakness was not his intelligence or strategic ability. The only real criticism I can place at his feet was his inability to ride roughshod over some pretty ordinary subordinate and variously incompetent ‘junior’ generals. His organization and implementation of the worlds biggest amphibious assault was sheer unadulterated brilliance. That he got within a whisker of pulling it off was incredible. There are many things to be shocked by in this campaign, but Hamilton was not one of them.
unfortunately I would say majority of wars are not started for real reasons, but are planned meticulously by the wealthiest people on our planet, the "elites". As long as they achieve their desired outcome, they do not care about the deaths that come along with it. Hell, look at ukraine, this is our new Afghanistan. This will continue to be prolonged as long as possible so politicians and the wealthy can siphon our tax money via laundering to ukraine. When are people going to realize this?
Thos ANZACS were all brave lads. Led into the mouth of murderous hell. The generals behind the lines had a lot to answer for. These brave patriotic men were genuinely treated as cannon fodder. When ever I watch this film the last scenes bring tears to my eyes.
These are mainly British soldiers with some ANZACs. In fact british soldiers outnumbered ANZACs at gallipoli and had far, far more casualties, same with the french who most dont even know were there
@@Ukraineaissance2014 I posted that comment last year in tribute to the ANZACS on Australian ANZAC day. It wasn’t comment on whose side lost most men, it was simply remembering the heroism of the ANZACS. I’m sorry you felt the need to disparage their achievements and defame them and their bravery. I’m not saying most men weren’t brave, I’m simply saying that at Gallipoli the ANZACS, thousands of miles from home ran towards German ‘slayer’ machine guns to protect the Commonwealth. They answered the call and they acted like all outstanding warriors of old….with great courage and discipline. I on the other hand would have probably got myself shot by my commanding officer because I’d have stood up and before the ranks massed before me I’d have said “fuck this, I’m having none of it. We dont stand a chance and I’m not going to spill my blood and die here for a bunch of elite war profiteers, wire pullers, masters of war. I’m going to throw my gun in the sea and I’m going to head to the nearest peaceful place and have an ice cold beer and write to my girl and tell her I’m on my way home because this war is so obviously about geopolitical issues, there is no clear enemy or reason to fight them. See you soon my love, here’s to a happy future”. I’m sure my CO would then have murdered me but then I’d have become a true martyr, dying for peace and having seen the hands pulling our wires and exposing them. My death would have meant something other than just being used as gun fodder hurled at the German/Turkish guns in hope of clogging the guns up. But that didn’t work and tens of thousands of innocent men were murdered with no hope of escape at Gallipoli.
@@kincaidwolf5184 so why keep throwing young men into the deadly fire that they knew they couldn’t stop? I like the analogy of the meat grinder, the generals wanted to push so many men toward the machine guns that they could over run the guns with dead bodies. Metaphorically clogging the guns with dead meat.
@@jackmcgregor1983 So you blame the Generals for sending men into a meat grinder but attack someone for trying to be innovative like Churchill? Who played a key role in the creation of the tank and who tried to end the war by doing an amphibious landing. You just don't understand the dynamics or technology avaliable in 1914. You couldn't do anything but throw massive infantry charges. How else do you win? The British and French couldn't just sit there when Russia was getting wiped out.
@@sheepsfoot2 1914 Christmas, The heads of Brit Army made sure this did not happen again in the following Christmases. Christmas this year will the 110 anniversary of that Christmas Truce (2024).
My eyes moisten every time I see it. His smile after saying it is priceless. Then, the smile fades, and they know what is coming, which is heart-wrenching. Bless them all. Brave gents!!
Brutal. I think the only unrealistic thing here is the dead silence after each wave is cut down. They all wouldn't be killed immediately, there would have been cries of agony, making it even worse to be the next line going to their own death.
@@Say-What I think what he means is the sort of gunshot that kills outright is quite rare. Most shots are an injury. Most death is when those injuries aren't treated immediatly. For realism there should be more injured than dead.
@@nvelsen1975 well atleast he was injured when he fell into the enemy trench and it’s really not necessary to see that officer kill that young soldier he would’ve taken him prisoner.
@@Antares383 *e would’ve taken him prisoner.* He really wouldn't. Turks took around 200 Australian prisoners during the war, and for context almost 400 Australians were killed and wounded in just this assault.
When the realization kicked in after the second line that it was pointless, made me sad. The third line made my blood boil. Great movie, provoking those emotions no problem
will never forget shooting that scene at Coffin Bay SA. The silence on the set was palpable. Seeing some of the crew and caterers as extras and some personal items as props. Peter couldnt have done this without eveyone believing what we were creating was a history of history. I think we all.know now our belief had been validated. Best film.crew ever put on a film set
Never watched a scene that’s made me feel like a piece of sh*t for complaining about anything, ever. Nothing compared to what these blokes had to deal with right up at the end, absolutely heartbreaking. (Edit: I live maybe 2/3 kilometres from where the lighthorse trained before deployment to the front in Western Australia, and this just drives the entire message home even harder when you physically see where these boys had to be before this).
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.” Atatürk, 1934
Nowadays SJW complain about pronouns and you can go go prison for speaking up. If these men knew what their country would turn into they wouldve never fought. Same with the US. So many deaths in the wars just so blacks can now riot and kill innocent people. Those soldiers would rather fight for Germany would they know
This was just a slice of the war. You could replay this scene over and over a thousand times and still not match the scope of slaughter on the other fronts. The Italian front in particular was just like this, only with sharp rock shards flying everywhere as a bonus. Wave after wave of young Italians killed in the many battles of the Izonso.
My maternal Grandfather served in Gallipoli. He was in a Terotorrial Battalion, the London Regiment. A battalion at the time was about 1000 soldiers including cooks etc. At the end of the campaign there were according to his account 150 left standing.
Us Aussies don't know much outside the Aussie experience of Gallipoli, cos we were not taught this at school and it is not shown on tv. Brits lost three times more soldiers than us Aussies on Gallipoli. Many Aussies don't know that Brit Army were involved with the Battle of the Nek and that each of the charging lines of soldiers at the Nek had two English Royal Engineer sappers charge with each line. This is verified in the actual Battle of the Nek battle orders held at the Aussie War Memorial and are readily available to read. Cheshire Regiment and the Welch Fusiliers were there. The Cheshires were lined up ready to charge in the fifth and sixth wave of charging men, but the battle was called off before they charged. They were in the trenches behind the 10th Light Horsemen who did charge.
I have recently started serving in the 1st Battalion London Guards as a territorial (reservist as they are called now) . We were still the London Regiment up until 2022 when we were reorganised into the Household Division and now designated as a Guards battalion, made up of a reserve company for each of the guards regiments (I am in the Grenadier Guards). I always spend some time viewing some old photos on display at our HQ of the LR.
There is apparently an account from the ottoman side they were burning their hands from touching the barrels and receiver rings on their rifles they had fired so much and so fast during one particular engagement during Galipoli.
I can well believe that. Experienced this once in the Aussie Army, we conducted a rapid fire event with SLR L1A1 rifle (FN FAL design) going through over ten mags each of twenty rounds, one after the other with rapid aimed shots. The barrel and the wood foregrip got so hot, I had to support the rifle with my non firing hand by holding the bottom of the magazine. This was at the firing range at HMAS Cerberus Victoria in about 1990.
WW1 was one of, if not the most brutal military conflict in history. The first of its kind in regard to heavy weapons, chemicals, and the most futile battle tactic ever, trenches. Many didn’t know that they dug their own graves when they dug those trenches. The war was so brutal that both sides had to be chivalrous in ceasefires to collect the dead and wounded from no man’s land. There were even instances of enemy soldiers helping each other during ceasefires when tending to the dead and wounded. The events of WW1 were so brutal that most nations made laws prohibiting certain weapons, behaviors and tactics.
This was the problem with the strict hierarchy rank system back in those days. The colonel knew they were achieving nothing and sending all those men to die. But instead of improvising he has to follow his own orders from those incompetent superiors who do not know the severity of the situation, sitting in there comfortable lounge chairs, sending hundreds of thousands of young lives for the sake of Politics. Hell, the Colonel could of saved all those lives from a few words and called off the attack.
Us...and them... And after all we're only ordinary men Me... And you... God only knows It's not what we would choose to do Forward he cried from the rear And the front rank died And the general sat And the lines on the map Moved from side to side Black... And blue... And who knows which is which and who is who Up... And down... And in the end it's only round 'n round... Haven't you heard it's a battle of words The poster bearer cried "Listen son", said the man with the gun There's room for you inside --Pink Floyd, 1973
The vast majority of the ANZAC Forces were English or British born, with the rest being 2nd or 3rd generation British immigrants. The vast majority of losses at Gallipoli were by the British Army. I appreciate that you're proud to be Australian, but these men did not die for your Australia. They felt British and a connection to the British Empire and later Commonwealth.
One of the saddest moments of this battle, when it became obvious a third assault was getting ready, a Turkish officer climbed out of his trench and called out in English, this is madness, for Gods sake stop it.
Türk olarak anlatıyorum olayın doğrusu şudur : Rütbesiz bir Türk askeri bir taarruza daha hazırlık yapan düşmanı dürbün ile görür. 22 yaşında olan Türk askeri neredeyse savunmasız olan düşman askerini öldürmek istemez ve "Enough" "Dont come" diyerek bağırır.
This is probably the only situation where the last line was the worst. Could you imagine seeing and hearing this massacre and just pushing up hoping they’d run out of ammo when it’s your line.
@@musfikinsan3423 Gallipoli was most certainly a massacre. Most wars are, in fact, massacres. A massacre is the indiscriminate and deliberate slaughter of many people
Here's the thing about Ottoman troopers: defending a colony? Maybe they're not too interested in dying for Bobo Pasha. But: Ottoman troopers defending home? Good luck, Tommy!
Even in Korean War, the Turks showed what they are made of and proved to be excellent defenders of their position. They seem to have it inbuilt to defend the piece of land they are located at. And would hold out no matter how tough things were and for no matter how long they had to hold out against the Chinese Communist Army.
No, by this time they were just as numb to it when you see that sort of death day in and out. Gallipoli was on a larger scale, but not new unfortunately.
There were four waves of 150 men each, from both the 8th and 10th Light Horse. Of the 600 men making the assault, less than 200 immediately survived; though a number of the wounded[who fell either back into the trench or were lucky enough to crawl back or be pulled in]died of their wounds later.
Each line of charging men also had two English soldiers - sappers from Royal Engineers. This is stated in the original battle orders held by the Aussie War Memorial. Maj Vivian Deeble who was in charge of the second line, wrote in his post battle report, that he was stuck in no man's land close to other survivors, laying as low as possible to avoid the bullets wizzing overhead. When they got the order the battle was cancelled, he and those still alive, worked their way back to their trench keeping as low as possible.
@@ammonteasdale2703I don’t want to be that guy but if the gallipoli campaign was lost turkey probably wouldn’t have Istanbul today nor any other European possessions.
@@colleen9026 The Turkish officer shouted at them to "Stop, for God's sake stop!" The marker was miscommunication to the Brits. The attack came late because their clocks were not aligned with the clocks of the Navy guns.
The original post battle reports - hand written by the senior surviving officer of each unit involved are held by the Aussie War Memorial. I have read each one and there is no mention of this seven minute gap between the cessation of the bombardment and the first charge. This is puzzling. In the 8th Light Horse report written by Maj Vivian Deeble who was officer in charge 2nd line of charging men, states the bombardment stopped and the men in the first line went straight into the charge. The seven minute scenario is puzzling to me.
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.” Atatürk, 1934
This is a GREAT series and a fantastic study of personalities and command mindset. Though I caught a slip in your snippet as they were loading the clips. They filmed a dummy round (drilled hole in casing) being loaded to the clip. The actor playing the self-proclaimed 'Abo', also plays in the more h'wood dramatic film of the same battle, soon to be released.
Sadly this is pretty firmly detached from what really happened at the Nek in 1915. In fact, it's basically entirely made up. ANZACs took 50% casualties in total - horrific losses for sure, but not 100% as depicted in this clip (casualties includes wounded). The Ottoman trenches were heavily bombarded by warships out at sea beforehand (though the ANZACs felt it was inadequate and that battleships could've been used). The attack took place at 4am, under cover of darkness, not in broad daylight as depicted here. The waves did not go one after the other and were not all immediately cut down. The attack was always going to be costly but it mainly failed because of poor coordination between artillery and the various units, who attacked out of time and wasted momentum waiting for reinforcements. It was not a foregone conclusion in of itself, though I'd argue the Gallipoli Campaign was. I think the main thing that doesn't sit well with me about this is all the crying. The real horror of war - the terrifying thing that doesn't happen anywhere else - isn't the dying and physical suffering but the dehumanisation of soldiers. Certainly the least convincing part is the crying Ottomans. The defenders were highly motivated and did not mourn the deaths of invaders (though they were recorded as being generally respectful of the dead and prisoners - I doubt they would've shot an obviously completely helpless soldier who fell into their trench).
Thank you for this information. This comment should be pinned at the top of the comments for clarity and historical accuracy. My Grandfather served in the 42nd Battalion in France,returned home after marrying the English nurse that took care of him when wounded (gas,shrapnel and shell shock)
The casualty rate was almost 2/3, not 50%, and the 2nd wave did go just 2 minutes after the 1st wave. Most experts now agree that after the 1st wave was cut down in 30 seconds, it should have been obvious to all that sending out subsequent waves was futile. While the daylight in this scene is inaccurate, as it was 4:30 am in darkness as you say, the rest of the scene is fairly accurate.
@@erickollman4441 The attack took place over several hours. Each wave was separated by hours, not minutes. I haven't seen anything saying upwards of 66% casualties, only 50%.
For any one interested, the actual original Nek battle orders, post battle reports, trench maps showing disposition of the soldiers involved, etc etc, are held by the Aussie War Memorial and are readily available to read. In the film Gallipoli there are several glaring mistakes which conflict with contemporary documents on the battle. The commenter above is correct, commenced at night time. According to the post battle reports, first line 'leaped the bags' at 0430hrs, the second line at 0432hrs, the third line at 0436hrs, the last and fourth line at 0440hrs. In the original post battle reports written by the senior surviving officer of each unit, there is no mention of a 7 minute gap between the end of the bombardment and the first charge. The battle orders state a bombardment to commence at midnight and cease at 0430hrs. Gallipoli shows 10th Light Horse charging first, whereas original documents show the 10th were in the third and fourth line of charging men. The 8th charged first. Mel Gibson running through the trenches to stop the charge, is puzzling cos where he ran from - Brigade HQ, was located in a trench sap at the right hand side of the charging men. The man on the extreme right end of the men waiting to chargwe, could have reached around the corner of the trench and shaken hands with brigade staff, they were so close. So where this running came from is puzzling. There are other mistakes such as the Aussies were wearing their shirts not wool serge jackets, slouch hats were not worn, instead, they were ordered to wear Brit Army pith helmets or sun helmets. Shirts all had a white patch sewn on the back of their shirts near the shoulder as a readily identifiable friend or foe indicator. On each and every line of charging Aussies there were two Brit soldiers - sappers of the Royal Engineers.There was a fifth and sixth line of men waiting to charge but did not charge cos the battle was cancelled. These were Brits of the Cheshire Regiment and were located in trenches directly behind the men of the Tenth Light Horse. The above is all found in 1915 documents held by the Aussie War Memorial.
Did they do anything for you or just were forced to die in a meaningless war on an irrelevant battlefield? The turks at least defended their home country...
@@ferenckonya8593 "The turks at least defended their home country" Was that before or after attacking Russia unprovoked or committing Genocide against the Armenians? Also Gallipoli a little like the war of 1812 for the US went a long way to forming a national identity for both Australia and NZ, so hardly meaningless.
@@Delogros The "attacking Russia unprovoked" is funny because the alliances betweenthe powers were quite obvious and Russia was the first in the mobilization... The Gallipoli campaign was not a rescue mission for Armenians and the genocide begun two months after the beginning of the battle. Still something: How much is better to kill aboriginals in Australia than to kill Armenians in Turkey? More than 12000 Australian and New Zelandean soldiers died in a stranger continent, in a perfectly unsuccessful action, in a conflict in they were not naturally interested,...You really can be proud of it...
@@ferenckonya8593 "The "attacking Russia unprovoked" is funny because the alliances betweenthe powers were quite obvious and Russia was the first in the mobilization... " you know this sentence makes literally no sense right? Russia mobilizing for war with Ger,any has nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire attacking the Crimea unprovoked. "The Gallipoli campaign was not a rescue mission for Armenians and the genocide begun two months after the beginning of the battle." When did I ever say it was? 2 sentences down and neither of them are actually about anything I said to you :S "Still something: How much is better to kill aboriginals in Australia than to kill Armenians in Turkey?" So committing intentional Genocide at the state level is fine because the British local government in Australia let some of their colonists do bad things to the aborigines? I mean I'm certainly not going to defend the killings in the way you're desperately trying to use them to defend a genocide of the Armenians but there was no state intent to kill aborigines while the same is not true for the Ottomans. Also as a side note (not that it should matter but since you brought it up) Aborigines deaths where about 14,000, there are 812,000 today Armenian deaths where up to 1.5 Million and there are 10 Million ethnic Armenians today, so since this is the hill you seem so desperate to die on. Relative population killed - Armenians 15% compared to 1.7% of Aboriginals today (and of course over a much longer period for Australia) I'm not Australian or from New Zealand, but what you said doesn't in anyway change my original point, WW1 is what helped give these 2 countries a national identity and they where fighting entrenched Turks in pretty much the best defensive ground of the war and still managed to inflict roughly equal casualties on them which should be am embarrassment for the Turks who to be even slightly efficient had to be lead by the Germans
My relative Henry Arthur Pearcey was killed during the 3rd battle of Krithia in 1915, served in the 2nd Battalion Hampshire Regiment. He was 25 years old. RIP
@@longxiao9823 for the doctrine of the time it was very effective against many formations, having the constant fire downrange that volley fire had was pretty decent Volleys could take down waves of charging troops, lines of troops, and various other formations
Tell that to the Ottoman army besieging Vienna in 17.century who then suddenly realises Jan Sobieski and his winged hussars at right their behind galloping their horses towards them lol. Peace out from Istanbul
In 1919 Charles Bean the Australian historian went back to Gallipoli and walked the Nek battlefield, he wrote that the bleached white skeletal remains of those who fell 7/8/1915 thickly covered the ground. There were still scraps of uniform on the troopers bones. The Turks had just left the bodies to rot after the allies left Gallipoli. RIP Brave men. Another sad fact is that there were at least two sets of brothers in the 8 light horse that were killed that morning. RIP
0:57 war drama preparing 2:17 Thinking because he could affect how it plays out 4:47 building up tension 7:27 main character as the movie is invoking sympathy for him
You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." Mustafa Kemal ATATURK
Both my grandparents fought at Gallipoli for the South Lancashire Regiment and the Lancashire Fusilier’s. Both survived, but grandfather Farrell’s war ended there Ashe was shot in the left leg twice.
In reality Turkish soldiers actually yelled out to the Anzac side to stop, shed tears after watching the massacare... At night after all the fighting was over Turkish soldiers prayed for the fallen Anzacs.
@@mr.tobacco1708 That's actually really honorable. Even enemies back then had enough humanity in them to realize that it wasn't personal and that bravery is a universally commendable quality
I remember this scene from when I watched it and seeing them put their photos on the wall of the trench and running to their deaths, something i doubt any one has the guts to do now. I serve to remember them.
Why do we fight isn't life short enough, just to look how beautiful our home Earth is and the heart we been given to love our precious life's ❤️ Thou shall not kill. David Lloyd Bridgland.
This was really the first modern war that wasn't lines of people firing muskets or single shot rifles at each other where machine guns and other weapons were just being designed and fielded the people higher up were expecting it to be like every other war but it wasn't
To put it simply the Brits did not care for the Australians, if the 1000 died for that line on a map so be it. The British not wanting to lose their pwestige lost Hundreds of Thousands of lives.
@@rexisnox577 strange this was an Australian officer commanding majority british troops then, and that british casualties at gallipoli far outweighed australian
Nothing more chilling than understanding how stupid it is to go over the top after: you blow a whistle and have everyone know you're coming with A- no previous artillery barrage, no smoke screens, and no well planned flanking mission. To understand you have to die for no reason at all. So dumb.
@@Angelcynn-x9m you’re absolutely right. Technology on the battlefield has evolved so quickly over the last century that it even overwhelms commanders today. Look at the $50 drones that make multi million dollar pieces of armor obsolete in Ukraine.
@@johndoran3274 I agree commanders did try things like digging under enemy trenches or heavy artillery barrages like at the Somme but often lack of heavy guns or trained crews would mean artillery barrages fail and men would end up charging intact trenches just like the Somme and i think even this battle
@@Angelcynn-x9m before I shipped out for Saudi Arabia back in 1990 for Desert Storm, I went to the American Legion with my father and grandfather for a drink. My grandfather was a tanker in WW11 and my father did 2 tours of duty in Vietnam. I sat next to a WW 1 vet and talked with him for hours. He was part of the Marine Expeditionary Force and fought in Belleau Wood. That conversation is burned into my brain as I could see the pain in him describing the horrible things he witnessed.
@@johndoran3274 One of my family members was a tanker in WW2 he fought at El Alamaine he was later captured by the Italians and suffered through horrendous conditions (the Italians hated the British because they were losing so badly) an old Italian lady gave the prisoners some bread so the Italians hung her outside the camp he said he was glad when they were given to the Germans he died a year after the war from something he caught in the prisoner of war camps another one of my family died a few weeks after Normandy he was shot by a German Sniper and drowned in his own blood war is very sad but young men will always want to fight
One of my ancestors Corporal Denis Duval 10th Light horse died there. He was in the third wave. They never recovered his body. Incredibly brave men killed by the ineptness of Lieutenant Colonel John (Bull) Antill (later Major General with other royal awards) who ordered the attacks to continue. Makes me sick!
If only the british had bothered to read helmuth Von Moltkes writings from 40 years earlier. Give the NCOs general directives, trian and reward them for taking the initiative. Looking at this and battles in ww2, it seems the british were still hanging on to napoleonic era command and control structures which were useless with the technologies available at the time.
"And oft in the shades of the twilight, When the soft winds are whispering low, And the dark'ning shadows are falling, Sometimes think of the men down below." 😢
The detail in this video clip shows that the makers of this movie must have read the original battle orders held by Aussie War Memorial, the sun helmets, the white patch of cloth stitched to the upper rear of the shirt, are each set down in the original orders issued by HQ 3rd Light Horse Brigade which are available to read on the web -Aussie War Memorial website. The post battle reports by the surviving most senior officer of each unit makes from illuminating reading when we consider the myths surrounding the Battle of the Nek, for instance, the 7 minute gap between the end of the bombardment and the first line charging, as shown in the 1980s film 'Gallipoli' appears to be a myth cos the original post battle reports show the bombardment stopped at 4.30am and the first line of 8th Lighthorsemen charging at 4.30am.
In Gallipoli war soldier memories, soldiers were joking with each other. I had heard it yesterday. Anzac soldiers had put barbed wire in front of the trench, the next day they looked, the wire mesh was in front of the Turkish side, a note had been sent by the Turks. Tie the wires long, it becomes difficult to carry when cut short. In another moment, a note was sent by the Turks. Surrender within 24 hours, if you do not surrender, we will surrender... The British Command did not allow a ceasefire twice because in the first ceasefire, the Anzacs and the Turks started to become friends. If people are friends, you cannot order them fight. The same situation started on the western front on New Year's Evening , the soldiers rejected to attack each other. People must help each other not fight. War is a method of Devil
Not taking anything from the Anzacs, but the Gallipoli campaign cost many more British casualties, more Indian and Gurkha casualties and I believe more French casualties than the losses suffered by Australian or New Zealand troops. It should be remembered by Australia and New Zealand but many Australian people believe that the upper class English high command sacrificed the Anzacs and kept the British troops safe, and the reality is that many of the Anzacs were actually born in the British Isles and probably considered themselves to be British soldiers. Like I said, I'm not denigrating the sacrifices made by Australia and New Zealand but it seems that the Australian public is convinced that it was the evil British aristocracy sending Aussie volunteers to their deaths, when the allied forces consisted of a relatively small fraction of Anzacs and the total number of English casualties was much higher than the number of Anzac casualties.
The vast majority of the ANZAC Forces were English or British born, with the rest being 2nd or 3rd generation British immigrants. The vast majority of losses at Gallipoli were by the British Army. The so called British aristocracy had a higher % of being killed then the average infantry men, especially as their sons were the junior officers leading the waves forward.
Retired Aussie Armoured Corps soldier here. Brits lost three times the number of Aussies on Gallipoli. Think it was 25,000 Brits killed on Gallipoli but this was a 'side show' for the Brits, where as for Aussies and NZ's this was their first war as a nation and why Gallipoli and ANZAC Day is so seared into our minds. In the 1980s, I served with the descendant regiment of the 8th Light Horse Regiment (of Gallipoli fame).
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hey everyone I noticed that this video is getting a lot of attention so I wanted to say a few things first off that this whole show is free to watch on tubi it’s a great and long show and hella accurate to the actual campaign of Gallipoli and second of all I know it sounds cheesy but if you could subscribe and and least leave a view on my other videos that be great thanks and yes I do read every comment
Do you have a link? Sorry if I am asking for too much.
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@@RATBOY-il8pu ah sorry. Thank you
@@cheng3580 no problem have fun watching the show :>
Tubi is not available in my area sadly
Ottomen: Are they nuts?
Australian: Are we nuts?
Officials: keep going!
"Used up the Australians. Artillery shells cost money. The dead cost nothing."
To think people actually got paid to think up these "tactics" 😂😂😂 like, what the actual fuck?!! Had they no concept of artillery?!
@@OhNotThat you're a fucking wordsmith! Absofuckinlutey well said!
@@dscrappylocogolani9555 Zero coordination between the branches and the navy using a different time system leading to the naval bombardment stopping far too early.
like a shit manager at any company, keep going. Bunch of bollocks
When you literally sending your soldiers to sensless death even your enemies start begging you to stop from other trench and cries for the soldiers dying.
It’s true but the artillery stopped because the soldiers time and the navy’s time was different
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.”
Atatürk, 1934
@@tugrulgul5903 beautiful words, kind sentiment.
@@tugrulgul5903 Beautiful. I wish as many leaders today could speak with such sincerity.
Is that the same for the Armenians that the Turks killed by genocide?
Fun fact: As this was supposed to be a diversionary attack, Major General Alexander Godley ordered that the troops charge with unloaded rifles. The intent was that the charges were to be carried out with bayonnets and hand grenades only, to prevent the troops from stopping to fire and thus increase the chances of them reaching the Ottoman positions. While preliminary naval and artillery bombardment of the trenches held by the Ottomans took place, they ceased a few minutes early due to non-synchronization of timepieces. The Australians began their assault at the scheduled time, however, which allowed the Ottomans to re-occupy their positions and defend them. The results, obviously, were not satisfactory, with the 600 Australian light horsemen suffering 372 casualties for zero gain.
The artillery support did not even hit the Turkish positions because the crews feared that one of their shells would fall into their own men
@@larryalvares1369 The Ottomans still took cover during the shelling.
fucking english.!!!!!!!!!!!
@@roycreen7308feck you. Lancashire fusiliers left their sons and brothers too
Wow, what FUN.
3 x waves of 150 men, by the 3rd wave they new they were facing almost certain death, the movie Gallipoli captures it best. The guys then went to the Western Front and the disaster of Fromelles which was an even bigger massacre. To the people of Turkey, thank you for looking after our fallen. I spent 2 months traveling through Turkey and was always met with kindness .
Always! soldiers never die! and we will take care of the soldiers who left this world untill we all leave and meet them.
That's what I find interesting about Turkey - we fucking tried to invade them a century ago, and they've been nothing but cool about it. Turkish soldiers guard and participate in the ANZAC Day ceremony in Çanakkale, they treat all visitors like friends, and their food is amazing.
It was 4 waves but yeah brave lads
4 waves
It wasn’t just the battle of the nek and also the battle of the Somme had suffer 1 million deaths in total.
"Johnny Turkey was ready. He primed himself well.
He showered us with bullets, and he rained us with shells.
And in 5 minutes flat, he blew us all to hell.
Nearly blew us right back to Australia."
Johnny Turk he was ready ...
And the Band played Waltzing Maltilda. as we stopped to bury our slain. And we buried ours and the Turks buried theirs, and it started all over again.
THose who were living? Just tried to surive, in the mad world of Blood, Death & Fire. for 10 weary weeks I kept myself alive, while around me the corpes piled higher. Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head, and when I awoke in me hospital bed, I saw what it had done, I wished I were dead...never knew there were worse things than dying. For no more will I go Waltzing Matilda, all raound the green bush far and near. For to hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs. No more Waltzing Matilda for me
They collected the cripples, the wounded and Maimed
And they shipped us back home to Australia
The legless, the armless, the blind and insane
Those proud wounded heroes of Sulva
And as our ship pulled into circular quay, I looked at the place where me legs used to be And thank Christ there was nobody waiting for me…to grieve and to mourn and to pity
And the band played Waltzing Matilda, as they carried us down the gangway. But nobody cheered, they just stood and stared…And they turned all their faces away
God bless our country
Two thirds of the brigade were casualties. Nearly a half died in action or of their wounds. No senior officers paid for the disaster. Instead they were promoted and given honors. Many of the dead were not recovered and buried until four years later.
War isn't that simple. Maybe it was a feint attack to draw reserves away from another sector where an attack or amphibious landing was to take place. Communications were pretty shite in them days and these weren't professional trained officers and soldiers who can carry out complex manoeuvres. It was still a waste of young life obviously.
You can be sure that all the men responsible for this are rotting in Hell. So i guess thats something.
@@jamestaylor5341 A feint attack, who knows... but the dead weren't feint, and for what result ?
Basically the rich hate us, and I have served in Ganners and iraq
even decades later when Winston announced" I have a cunning plan" ANZAC and canadian troops started trembling!!
It's hard to imagine the fear of knowing your own death in advance like that. Gives me chills.
they probably thought no way those indigenous locals defeat the mighty British empire
This ain't soldering. This is using men as cannon fodder. Stupid.
Australians are cowards
@@ahsansariyadi29 what are u even on about…
@@Antares383he’s saying that the west saw the ottomans as barbaric and incompetent when in reality they were not
I was in tears watching this. Those boys would be about the same age as me, many of them probably a bit younger. So tragic. So frustrating.
I wish peace to all soldiers who lost their lives here in Turkish soil. I have been called by the Turkish Army for the mandatory service today. I'll be respectfull to anyone regardless of race, sexual oriantation and reliigon.
You were alive during WW1?
@@DtotheK88 Ye bro, I was there. Faaar out, you should'a seen me goin' ham out there mate
Those generals should have been tried for war crimes
Old men 50-70 sending out 18 year olds fresh outta grade school to experience life cut short
I am a Turk living in Istanbul. I have visited Gallipoli twice with my kids. I have 2 ancestors killed in battles in Gallipoli; brothers of my great great parents. They were 21 and 27 years old. I have visited their burial sites. Turkish soldiers had to face similar situations many times as depicted in the movie.
Sonunda bir türk
Nothing compared to what they did to the Armenians though.
I am pretty sure my great uncles did not see any single armenian in their life time as they are from central steppes of Anatolia, and I believe you can do better to help Armenians instead of bringing all topics to Armenian problem that we buried to the ground literally and figuratively a hundred years ago, and only we hear pathetic whiny moans under TH-cam videos. You can go to Karabakh to stand alongside Armenians and face the consequences. @@universalis8208
@@universalis8208my grandgrandmother was raped and then tortured to death with her unborn baby in her stomach by armenian separatists. So ssttffuu
@@universalis8208 That's why Armenia denied to investigate what happened to Armenians in Anatolia. Stop believing what American Woke gave you and search yourself. You actually believing what Kim Kardashian claimed a nonsense, pathetic. The who attempted a holocaust were Armenians against Turkish villagers aka "Innocents".
These men received no artillery support, no cloaking smoke to hide in, yet they were sent out to accomplish the impossible. Respect.
Stupidity is not respect worthy. That colonel is a fucking fool.
Women want to be equal to men? Insanity. Men can be monsters and poets. This is dark and a shame that the military was too rigid to the point of being useless. RIP mates.
They had artillery support
Respect? For who?
Sympathy is what i’m feeling.
@@doogleticker5183what??
When you're tactics are so bad that even you're enemy is begging you to stop
When YOUR English sucks
The sad thing is, they hadn't figured out the tactics to do anything else. That WAS the only tactic. You can see in the newer histories that the generals were desperately trying new ways to get around it, and they all ended... well like this. Industrial warfare is just industrial mass slaughter with mass casualties, and even today we don't really have a good answer to it (see ukraine).
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@@AaronAlekseyevich 🤔
This show literally captured the brutality of this war... and this theater. Brutal.
And the cruelty of the British commanders towards the ANZAC soldiers
@@thebreadboy0419 Mate, the commander of the 3rd Light Horse Brigade (the guys getting killed) was an australian. Get your facts from proper sources and not tv shows
No mainly the stupidity of the Gallipoli invasion as well as the battle of the Nek. The WWI-style infantry charges are the most effective only with artillery support. The British decision to land at Gallipoli was a haste operation with severe underestimation of the Turkish army, and they used ANZAC troops as expendables which contributed to this scene.
@@longxiao9823 Well underestimating the Ottoman army was a rather understandable thing given that they had been soundly defeated during the Balkan Wars by much smaller nations and Italy before that. And the ANZACs were not treated as expendable, no general ever treats any of his troops as expendable, that would just be a waste any idiot can see that.
@@samallen3564 Yeah that's of course the ideal. But if you have seen the entire mini series you would know that it wasn't the case at all.
The way he runs across the open ground is filmed similar to the final scene of Gallipoli (1981). A very nice homage to a beautifully haunting scene.
@@angusmcculloch6653 they didn’t have a choice. They’d probably be executed
@@angusmcculloch6653 you say with your fat arse sat in your chair achieving nothing
The one with Mel Gibson?
@@Dilley_G45 Yes.
Same battle it was supposed to be.
9:53 The Turkish perspective adds that extra layer to this depiction of the Nek. In Peter Weir's Gallipoli, you get fleeting glances of the Turkish fighters because this is an Australian movie, an Australian perspective. From all accounts, the Turkish never celebrated or displayed glee over the victory. They were somber, mourning the loss as much as the Australians.
There was no objective achieved.
Everyone lost that day.
Only Australians lost that day. No need to romantics.
not only that but you can see the boss who keeps saying "Push on" looking like he regrets what he is saying but he keeps saying "We have our orders" meaning likely hood he probably does not want to send these men out to death, yet he has to and there is nothing he or the army can do about it.
Today there is a memorial at the place, erected by the turks and with the words of Mustafa Kemal, the turkish general. It reads:
"Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives! You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
😢 poor lads
that’s pretty heavy
Honor
Mustafa Kemal, "Ataturk" 1934
😔
It's said that the first wave was wiped out within 30 seconds. The second wave within a minute- And since the General refused to call off the assault? The third wave soon followed the same fate.
Over 30 Machine guns covered the Nek in depth, some say it was some of the fiercest fire the Australians faced in the Gallipoli battle.
If I remember ,230 + men gone in minutes
@Jamon Hartzer I read that the fourth wave accidentally stepped off- as in, they started the assault prematurely by accident and the rest of the wave ended up trying to follow into the attack and ate the same fate. A bloody time
To be a young military age male.
and it is said only 3 men out of all 4 waves made it to the Ottoman Firing range. Absolute waste of young men's lives
Turns out one was hit in the ankle and crawled all of the way back to their trench
I have a question. I have always heard that there was a report that said an Australian army flag in the Turkish tranches. Is this even true? I personally hasn’t looked it up.
@@barackobama0101 I've read the same thing; That they didn't cancel the waves because there were rumors that the Aussie flag had been spotted at the forward trenches of the Turkish. In my opinion? That could A: Been a very, very small handful that made it trying to get help, B: The Turks using a captured flag as deception to lure more into the meat grinder, or C: A product of the fog of war and personal hopes. You hope to see what your mind wants you to see- But in reality, it wasn't there.
But those are just my opinions on it having read into the same thing!
I am a very patriotic Turk. I visited Gallipoli just 4 days ago. I visited all the fronts.. I prayed.. This was a dramatic war as well as proud for us.. We defended our lands at the cost of our lives and it will be like this forever.. Still, it was enough to make me cry when an enemy soldier died young, perhaps without even knowing what it was for. .. I hope we never experience such things again.. Whatever happens, we are human and we are brothers..
No a dead whitey anglo is a good thing
A pointless war fought between Europeans that the Ottoman Empire had no business in entering. The empire was in serious decline and worse still stood nothing to gain from it even if the Central Powers had won. The only silver lining is that the empire finally collapsed once and for all because of it and Ataturk, one of the greatest statesmen of all time, was able to take the reigns and modernise Turkey. Sad that his legacy is being trampled on in modern Turkey, and sick that he is worshipped by the people who'd make him turn in his grave.
@@shaddaboop7998 Ataturk literally destroyed what was once a proud Muslim empire. He pushed secularism that has since wreaked havoc on Turkey. I'm glad that some modern Turks are finally portraying Ataturk as the villain that he was.
Did you vote Erdogan
Yeah you really defended it from those Armenians.
Makes one circumspect when you remember that the best of Western Victoria went over the top at the Nek with the 8th Light Horse Regiment. The 8th featured a literal roll call of some of the most prominent 'squatocracy' family names, Austin, Mack, Urquhart and numerous settler families and scions of Melbourne society.
Makes you wonder what would've been if they survived?
And of the survivors? No wonder Paul McGinness, co-founder of Qantas Airlines, became aimless and displayed all the symptoms of PTSD after the war, dying in obscurity aged 55. He was knocked out it the first wave, surviving the day on no man's land and making it back into the trenches at night.
The impact on the 8th was so great that those who survived or were 'off the line' for the charge often were promoted due to the need to reinforce the Regiment with replacement officers and NCOs
An example of this was my own great grandfather, who hadn't even landed on Gallipoli when the charge occurred. He was an acting Sergeant in one of the 8th LHR reinforcement cycles and landed on the peninsula on the 16th August (9 days after the charge) as a Corporal, quickly rising to Squadron Sergeant Major in the Sinai campaign.
Lest we forget
this is a great comment and should see more consideration
Of the 300 men of the Eighth Light Horse Regiment, 264 men were killed or wounded. Even their Colonel - Alex White was killed in the first line. There is a small memorial to him in Brighton Cemetery Melbourne, and at the beach head of Cole St Brighton where he lived in prior to the War in Brighton. The house he lived in at No 11 is still there.
I have met Paul McGinness's descendant who lives near Warrnambool. A very good chap to know and passionate about the 8th Light Horse and his ancestor. According to a diary kept by another 8th Light Horseman at the time, Paul exhibited odd behaviour from that battle even during the war. War is so cruel to men. Brings out the best and the worst in men.
I did my thesis on this. So many myths, but with deeper research you get a clearer picture.
Ottoman records do indeed indicate that a section of trench was taken and held for some time by a handful of these light-horsemen. The Ottomans did try to get them to surrender but they refused and were eventually overwhelmed.
None of the supporting waves were able to reach them in support.
During 9 months of field research in the 1980s I was lucky to find the remains of a pith helmet only a couple of meters from the first Ottoman trench.
There is too much romanticizing of the Gallipoli campaign. It was a dirty, filthy war. Only remembered with pleasure by those who experienced a worse nightmare on the Western front.
Well-stated. Truth.
There must have been quite a few vets still around in the 1980s no?
@@Adonnus100 I did most of my primary schooling in New Zealand. One of our teachers of our teachers was a Gallipoli veteran. He was still there when we left at the end of 1976. I believe he was teaching till about 1983.
I remember seeing him march on ANZAC Day, in our town. All the vets were in various groups, except for one, elderly Maori gentleman, named Parki Withers. Parki was marching alone. So, I asked our cub leader, why Mr Withers was alone. She said, it was because he was not a WWI or WWII veteran. He was a veteran of the Boer War!
Parki was 92 then. He marched as briskly as the Korean War vets and lived alone, without assistance. Years later, in Australia, we heard that Parki had huge celebration for his 100th birthday. There was plenty of wine, women, and song. Parki was found dead the next morning, with a smile on his face.
I went back to the town in 2015. About a half dozen times, different people told me that Parki was smiling, when he died. True.
Betrayed by Churchill
@mombaassa What a wonderful story about old Parki. The British and any allies of theirs that took part suffered severe losses. The boers in South Africa almost invented guerilla warfare.
The old rank and file days of the British soldier was over.
One of the most devastating depictions of going over-the-top I've seen on screen. You can really sense the expendable nature of such warfare when each wave ends quickly with no gain and bringing another batch up. Absolutely no cover too, it's heartbreaking.
“Without a sign his sword the brave man draws…and asks no omens but his country cause.”-homer.
"War is a murder unless there is an obligation to defend the homeland." Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
Even if he was right with this one, I wish he rots in hell
@@TovarischMakarov why is that?
@@kubortthedane9487 he was a freemason filth
@@ahmadfrhan5265 ya for arabs
@@trabacula2000 no for real
The ending of this scene with all those bodies made me emotional a lot of those boys were only in their early 20s and many were teenagers still.
My great great aunt lost her husband at quite a young age. My nana told me that when she was a child she asked her why she didn't remarry. She was told that there wasn't anyone to marry, as so many people of her generation were all wiped out during the war. In the small town she lived in they lost more than the average
The thing is, this mini series highlighted a real issue with war back then and even now. The commanding officers know what's happening, they feel it all yet they are helpless. If they disobey the orders of their superiors they are court marshaled and almost always found guilty. People like Ian Hamilton (who was not and is no Sir) are the real enemy. Political pawns who don't care how many men die. Hamilton was exactly that. He didn't care about anyone but himself. That's why those below him ended up moving to have him ousted. I might be biased as an Australian, but I don't see how that man was honorable. Those below him who took a stand had more honor in the end than he ever did.
I remember when we did the centenary at school, all of us who were 16 or older were separated from the younger grades in an attempt to show how many people you went to school with would have enlisted. When they showed during the assembly how many there were in terms of how big your school is it put things into perspective. Myself and all my friends were 16 in 2015 and when you consider that this was the youngest age where you could legally enter war back then it made you think of the absolute hell people that age would have went through and demonstrates how lucky we are today to have witnessed no major wars in some years and have tighter laws that protect the common people.
There are a great many things wrong with this post. But, just picking on one in particular, you seem to be suggesting that Sir Ian Hamilton 'didn't care about anyone but himself'. I'm sure you know this from your extensive research, but in the summer of 1918 the highly decorated Australian officer Albert Jacka VC wrote to Hamilton a letter in which he concluded,
'As a member of the Australian Imperial Force, I feel that I need scarcely say how I look forward with very great pleasure to renewing my acquaintanceship with the first General the Force ever served under [i.e. Hamilton], and also one who was held in such high esteem by all ranks. Yours sincerely, Bert Jacka.'
You may not think he was 'honourable' but the Australian troops who served under him certainly did. I prefer their judgement of the man over yours.
@@henrypulleine8750 Our troops had been taught to respect him. Just because they thought he was honourable, doesn't mean he was. Culture back then was very different to today. We don't have a nation which we regard as our motherland. All those brave soldiers did and they believed they were dying for king and country. Some diaries say that. You also forget that our troops were lied to time and time again by Hamilton. If Hamilton made it more a mission to create a better strategy in Gallipoli as opposed to trying to stop Bean and Murdoch revealing the disaster of the campaign then maybe it would have been different. Had he done his job instead of worrying about a few journalists who were trying to defeat the propaganda instead of creating propaganda like todays 'journalists'. Ian Hamilton did many things wrong and in the end, the fact that many of his comrades didn't see him fit to lead anymore. There was no doubt that prior to Gallipoli he was effective, however Gallipoli showed he his age or something in him went wrong. He lost his way and effectiveness, thus losing integrity. This is stuff we learn only after war. Of course he was held in high esteem back then. It was a completely different time.
Some unfortunate points of view here.
Please deepen your research into Hamilton.
Gallipoli was my research masters thesis and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on his strengths and weaknesses.
By the standard of generals at the time, Hamilton was a top tier commander.
His weakness was not his intelligence or strategic ability. The only real criticism I can place at his feet was his inability to ride roughshod over some pretty ordinary subordinate and variously incompetent ‘junior’ generals.
His organization and implementation of the worlds biggest amphibious assault was sheer unadulterated brilliance.
That he got within a whisker of pulling it off was incredible.
There are many things to be shocked by in this campaign, but Hamilton was not one of them.
Ahh yes the old "jUsT foLoWinG OrDerS"
unfortunately I would say majority of wars are not started for real reasons, but are planned meticulously by the wealthiest people on our planet, the "elites". As long as they achieve their desired outcome, they do not care about the deaths that come along with it. Hell, look at ukraine, this is our new Afghanistan. This will continue to be prolonged as long as possible so politicians and the wealthy can siphon our tax money via laundering to ukraine. When are people going to realize this?
Thos ANZACS were all brave lads. Led into the mouth of murderous hell. The generals behind the lines had a lot to answer for. These brave patriotic men were genuinely treated as cannon fodder. When ever I watch this film the last scenes bring tears to my eyes.
These are mainly British soldiers with some ANZACs. In fact british soldiers outnumbered ANZACs at gallipoli and had far, far more casualties, same with the french who most dont even know were there
@@Ukraineaissance2014 I posted that comment last year in tribute to the ANZACS on Australian ANZAC day. It wasn’t comment on whose side lost most men, it was simply remembering the heroism of the ANZACS. I’m sorry you felt the need to disparage their achievements and defame them and their bravery. I’m not saying most men weren’t brave, I’m simply saying that at Gallipoli the ANZACS, thousands of miles from home ran towards German ‘slayer’ machine guns to protect the Commonwealth. They answered the call and they acted like all outstanding warriors of old….with great courage and discipline. I on the other hand would have probably got myself shot by my commanding officer because I’d have stood up and before the ranks massed before me I’d have said “fuck this, I’m having none of it. We dont stand a chance and I’m not going to spill my blood and die here for a bunch of elite war profiteers, wire pullers, masters of war. I’m going to throw my gun in the sea and I’m going to head to the nearest peaceful place and have an ice cold beer and write to my girl and tell her I’m on my way home because this war is so obviously about geopolitical issues, there is no clear enemy or reason to fight them. See you soon my love, here’s to a happy future”. I’m sure my CO would then have murdered me but then I’d have become a true martyr, dying for peace and having seen the hands pulling our wires and exposing them. My death would have meant something other than just being used as gun fodder hurled at the German/Turkish guns in hope of clogging the guns up. But that didn’t work and tens of thousands of innocent men were murdered with no hope of escape at Gallipoli.
@@jackmcgregor1983 The Generals were not or are not to blame. There was no way to break a machine gun positon until the British invented the tank.
@@kincaidwolf5184 so why keep throwing young men into the deadly fire that they knew they couldn’t stop? I like the analogy of the meat grinder, the generals wanted to push so many men toward the machine guns that they could over run the guns with dead bodies. Metaphorically clogging the guns with dead meat.
@@jackmcgregor1983 So you blame the Generals for sending men into a meat grinder but attack someone for trying to be innovative like Churchill? Who played a key role in the creation of the tank and who tried to end the war by doing an amphibious landing. You just don't understand the dynamics or technology avaliable in 1914. You couldn't do anything but throw massive infantry charges. How else do you win? The British and French couldn't just sit there when Russia was getting wiped out.
It’s sad because the Turks and the anzacs both knew that both sides were human, they buried dead soldiers together.
The same with the Germans at one time on Chrismas day they even got out of there trenches and celibrated christmas with our side !
@@sheepsfoot2 1914 Christmas, The heads of Brit Army made sure this did not happen again in the following Christmases. Christmas this year will the 110 anniversary of that Christmas Truce (2024).
the soundtrack for this series is magnificent, that gut-wrenching string section....
Do you know it name?
@@RealG05 Look up gallipolli soundtrack 'The Nek'
“I didn’t write it mate”. What a heartbreaking scene. 🇦🇺😢
Do you have an idea of what the song is called? I’ve looked everywhere
@@wizards2k I think it's called The Dying Stockman.
Do u need a tissue?😂
@@ChurchofFoscolodo you need therapy? 😂
My eyes moisten every time I see it. His smile after saying it is priceless. Then, the smile fades, and they know what is coming, which is heart-wrenching.
Bless them all. Brave gents!!
Theres a reason why in HOI4, the beginning of Australian independence path states "Never Another Gallipoli."
Being in the military as a grunt, yes, I can see it playing it out EXACTLY like this.
Brutal. I think the only unrealistic thing here is the dead silence after each wave is cut down. They all wouldn't be killed immediately, there would have been cries of agony, making it even worse to be the next line going to their own death.
Turn up the volume and you will hear it, especially in the ending scene.
@@Say-What
I think what he means is the sort of gunshot that kills outright is quite rare. Most shots are an injury. Most death is when those injuries aren't treated immediatly. For realism there should be more injured than dead.
@@nvelsen1975 well atleast he was injured when he fell into the enemy trench and it’s really not necessary to see that officer kill that young soldier he would’ve taken him prisoner.
@@Antares383
*e would’ve taken him prisoner.*
He really wouldn't. Turks took around 200 Australian prisoners during the war, and for context almost 400 Australians were killed and wounded in just this assault.
@@jillsjakes2519 ottoman: nah we don’t have enough camps for new prisoners.
Germany: *let’s take atleast 1 million Russian prisoners of war.*
insanity is define classically by doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result...
I felt like I just lost all my friends and family after watching this bit.
Lions led by lambs. The bravery of these Australians cannot be imagined by generations today.
When the realization kicked in after the second line that it was pointless, made me sad. The third line made my blood boil.
Great movie, provoking those emotions no problem
will never forget shooting that scene at Coffin Bay SA. The silence on the set was palpable. Seeing some of the crew and caterers as extras and some personal items as props. Peter couldnt have done this without eveyone believing what we were creating was a history of history. I think we all.know now our belief had been validated. Best film.crew ever put on a film set
Never watched a scene that’s made me feel like a piece of sh*t for complaining about anything, ever. Nothing compared to what these blokes had to deal with right up at the end, absolutely heartbreaking.
(Edit: I live maybe 2/3 kilometres from where the lighthorse trained before deployment to the front in Western Australia, and this just drives the entire message home even harder when you physically see where these boys had to be before this).
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.”
Atatürk, 1934
Lest we forget my brother 🌺
I do tool, 10th light Horse Heritage Trail correct? Just walking through there breaks my heart.
Watch Gallopili starring Mel Gibson, That Hits HARD
Nowadays SJW complain about pronouns and you can go go prison for speaking up. If these men knew what their country would turn into they wouldve never fought. Same with the US. So many deaths in the wars just so blacks can now riot and kill innocent people. Those soldiers would rather fight for Germany would they know
This makes me sick. The commanders should be charged with war crimes despicable
This happens way to often in real life unfortunately. Commanders will often "blindly" follow orders and not improvise to adapt to a situation.
In real life some entente and central commanders were charged with war crimes and some even executed via firing squad
@@M3xVerstappen1 any sources for this? Im very curious about it. Fuck these generals sending troops to die
Agreed. Sons of bitches.
This was just a slice of the war. You could replay this scene over and over a thousand times and still not match the scope of slaughter on the other fronts.
The Italian front in particular was just like this, only with sharp rock shards flying everywhere as a bonus. Wave after wave of young Italians killed in the many battles of the Izonso.
My maternal Grandfather served in Gallipoli. He was in a Terotorrial Battalion, the London Regiment.
A battalion at the time was about 1000 soldiers including cooks etc. At the end of the campaign there were according to his account 150 left standing.
Bir türk genci olarak dedene saygı duyuyorum❤ o gerçek bir kahraman ❤
Us Aussies don't know much outside the Aussie experience of Gallipoli, cos we were not taught this at school and it is not shown on tv. Brits lost three times more soldiers than us Aussies on Gallipoli. Many Aussies don't know that Brit Army were involved with the Battle of the Nek and that each of the charging lines of soldiers at the Nek had two English Royal Engineer sappers charge with each line. This is verified in the actual Battle of the Nek battle orders held at the Aussie War Memorial and are readily available to read. Cheshire Regiment and the Welch Fusiliers were there. The Cheshires were lined up ready to charge in the fifth and sixth wave of charging men, but the battle was called off before they charged. They were in the trenches behind the 10th Light Horsemen who did charge.
I have recently started serving in the 1st Battalion London Guards as a territorial (reservist as they are called now) . We were still the London Regiment up until 2022 when we were reorganised into the Household Division and now designated as a Guards battalion, made up of a reserve company for each of the guards regiments (I am in the Grenadier Guards). I always spend some time viewing some old photos on display at our HQ of the LR.
There is apparently an account from the ottoman side they were burning their hands from touching the barrels and receiver rings on their rifles they had fired so much and so fast during one particular engagement during Galipoli.
I can well believe that. Experienced this once in the Aussie Army, we conducted a rapid fire event with SLR L1A1 rifle (FN FAL design) going through over ten mags each of twenty rounds, one after the other with rapid aimed shots. The barrel and the wood foregrip got so hot, I had to support the rifle with my non firing hand by holding the bottom of the magazine. This was at the firing range at HMAS Cerberus Victoria in about 1990.
WW1 was one of, if not the most brutal military conflict in history. The first of its kind in regard to heavy weapons, chemicals, and the most futile battle tactic ever, trenches. Many didn’t know that they dug their own graves when they dug those trenches.
The war was so brutal that both sides had to be chivalrous in ceasefires to collect the dead and wounded from no man’s land. There were even instances of enemy soldiers helping each other during ceasefires when tending to the dead and wounded.
The events of WW1 were so brutal that most nations made laws prohibiting certain weapons, behaviors and tactics.
Crazy how they all went forward 😔 God bless them all
This was the problem with the strict hierarchy rank system back in those days. The colonel knew they were achieving nothing and sending all those men to die. But instead of improvising he has to follow his own orders from those incompetent superiors who do not know the severity of the situation, sitting in there comfortable lounge chairs, sending hundreds of thousands of young lives for the sake of Politics. Hell, the Colonel could of saved all those lives from a few words and called off the attack.
They’re called murdering war criminals.
yucks nafo bot
Us...and them...
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me...
And you...
God only knows
It's not what we would choose to do
Forward he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
And the general sat
And the lines on the map
Moved from side to side
Black...
And blue...
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up...
And down...
And in the end it's only round 'n round...
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried
"Listen son", said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside
--Pink Floyd, 1973
The courage and conviction of the young men at Galipoli brings tears to my eyes , makes me so proud to be Australian..
The vast majority of the ANZAC Forces were English or British born, with the rest being 2nd or 3rd generation British immigrants. The vast majority of losses at Gallipoli were by the British Army. I appreciate that you're proud to be Australian, but these men did not die for your Australia. They felt British and a connection to the British Empire and later Commonwealth.
Ben bir türküm ve burada savaşmış avustralyalılara saygı duyuyorum❤ Ataların saygıyı hakediyor onlar gercek bir kahraman❤
One of the saddest moments of this battle, when it became obvious a third assault was getting ready, a Turkish officer climbed out of his trench and called out in English, this is madness, for Gods sake stop it.
That did not happen
@@chrisbuesnell3428inanmak istemeye bilirsin ama oldu
@@chrisbuesnell3428 it did. go look.
Türk olarak anlatıyorum olayın doğrusu şudur : Rütbesiz bir Türk askeri bir taarruza daha hazırlık yapan düşmanı dürbün ile görür. 22 yaşında olan Türk askeri neredeyse savunmasız olan düşman askerini öldürmek istemez ve "Enough" "Dont come" diyerek bağırır.
@@chrisbuesnell3428it happened 😅
This is probably the only situation where the last line was the worst. Could you imagine seeing and hearing this massacre and just pushing up hoping they’d run out of ammo when it’s your line.
It's actually the most likely to succeed, there is now cover all over like it or not.
Massacre?Soldiers killed other soldiers during conflict.That's not a massacre.
war or not hats a pretty one sided exhange of led@@musfikinsan3423
@@musfikinsan3423 Gallipoli was most certainly a massacre. Most wars are, in fact, massacres. A massacre is the indiscriminate and deliberate slaughter of many people
What really hits me is the 4th line of that one guy singing and soldiers saying goodbye to their loved ones at 8:14
My eyes moisten every time I watch this. Pivotal, beautiful, tragic, and full of heroism.
Loaded the tubi app and started watching the entire series. Thanks for the imfo
One of the greatest command failures among many in the Great War. Absolutely murder.
Here's the thing about Ottoman troopers: defending a colony? Maybe they're not too interested in dying for Bobo Pasha.
But: Ottoman troopers defending home? Good luck, Tommy!
Even in Korean War, the Turks showed what they are made of and proved to be excellent defenders of their position. They seem to have it inbuilt to defend the piece of land they are located at. And would hold out no matter how tough things were and for no matter how long they had to hold out against the Chinese Communist Army.
This scene is so sad even the enemy is shocked
No, by this time they were just as numb to it when you see that sort of death day in and out. Gallipoli was on a larger scale, but not new unfortunately.
There were four waves of 150 men each, from both the 8th and 10th Light Horse. Of the 600 men making the assault, less than 200 immediately survived; though a number of the wounded[who fell either back into the trench or were lucky enough to crawl back or be pulled in]died of their wounds later.
Each line of charging men also had two English soldiers - sappers from Royal Engineers. This is stated in the original battle orders held by the Aussie War Memorial. Maj Vivian Deeble who was in charge of the second line, wrote in his post battle report, that he was stuck in no man's land close to other survivors, laying as low as possible to avoid the bullets wizzing overhead. When they got the order the battle was cancelled, he and those still alive, worked their way back to their trench keeping as low as possible.
This entire series was very hard emotionally to watch (as it should be). World leaders need to watch this if they are contemplating war.
That won't stop them. They have no regard for human life
İnan bana hiçbir faydası olmaz tek çare onlarıda oraya savaş meydanına götürüceksin işte ozaman savaş istemezler
“My power - my *pleasure* - means more to me than your well-being.”
I’ve heard this many times and it was applied to me - decades after this happened.
The elite do not give a fuck about us
in a war, it's the lowest classes that suffer the most
This should be played outside of recruitment offices….
The Colonel was right when he said, "This is murder!".
Can’t believe we have such good footage from WW1. Props to the camera man
Seriously?
@@northlincsfox243 I know right !!!
@@Robp-j1b 😀
Dostum nekadar komiksin böyle, şakaların inanılmaz. Sahnelere çıkıyormusun izlemek isterim.. beyinsiz çocuk
Words are not sufficient to tell the Gallipoli.We won but paid a very high price for it.Rest them in peace😥🙏
What did we “win”, ww1 was the most unnecessary shedding of blood in history
@@ammonteasdale2703 The beginnings of a 20 year build up to an even deadlier sequel
@@dostap7748 Ww1 was deadlier , ww2 just more brutal.
@@ammonteasdale2703I don’t want to be that guy but if the gallipoli campaign was lost turkey probably wouldn’t have Istanbul today nor any other European possessions.
Too much time between the artillery stopping and the attack going ahead. Poor strategy.
an officer somewhere fucked the fire plan
I'm not sure but did the Turks used the marker flags to lure more Anzacs?
9:25
@@colleen9026 The Turkish officer shouted at them to "Stop, for God's sake stop!" The marker was miscommunication to the Brits. The attack came late because their clocks were not aligned with the clocks of the Navy guns.
It was unrealistic to expect such cohesive integration of artillery and infantry with in an age without rapid communication.
The original post battle reports - hand written by the senior surviving officer of each unit involved are held by the Aussie War Memorial. I have read each one and there is no mention of this seven minute gap between the cessation of the bombardment and the first charge. This is puzzling. In the 8th Light Horse report written by Maj Vivian Deeble who was officer in charge 2nd line of charging men, states the bombardment stopped and the men in the first line went straight into the charge. The seven minute scenario is puzzling to me.
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.”
Atatürk, 1934
Damn slaughtered on the lip of their own lines.🤦
They are not heroes, change your sick mind. They are invaders who have been doomed. They are enemies.
@@salguodrolyat2594 Vatanımızı işgalcilere veremezdik kusurabakma..
This is a GREAT series and a fantastic study of personalities and command mindset. Though I caught a slip in your snippet as they were loading the clips. They filmed a dummy round (drilled hole in casing) being loaded to the clip. The actor playing the self-proclaimed 'Abo', also plays in the more h'wood dramatic film of the same battle, soon to be released.
This was heart breaking. Men going over knowing they were going to die. What a tremendous amount of bravery!
Sadly this is pretty firmly detached from what really happened at the Nek in 1915. In fact, it's basically entirely made up. ANZACs took 50% casualties in total - horrific losses for sure, but not 100% as depicted in this clip (casualties includes wounded). The Ottoman trenches were heavily bombarded by warships out at sea beforehand (though the ANZACs felt it was inadequate and that battleships could've been used). The attack took place at 4am, under cover of darkness, not in broad daylight as depicted here. The waves did not go one after the other and were not all immediately cut down.
The attack was always going to be costly but it mainly failed because of poor coordination between artillery and the various units, who attacked out of time and wasted momentum waiting for reinforcements. It was not a foregone conclusion in of itself, though I'd argue the Gallipoli Campaign was.
I think the main thing that doesn't sit well with me about this is all the crying. The real horror of war - the terrifying thing that doesn't happen anywhere else - isn't the dying and physical suffering but the dehumanisation of soldiers. Certainly the least convincing part is the crying Ottomans. The defenders were highly motivated and did not mourn the deaths of invaders (though they were recorded as being generally respectful of the dead and prisoners - I doubt they would've shot an obviously completely helpless soldier who fell into their trench).
Thank you for this information. This comment should be pinned at the top of the comments for clarity and historical accuracy. My Grandfather served in the 42nd Battalion in France,returned home after marrying the English nurse that took care of him when wounded (gas,shrapnel and shell shock)
The casualty rate was almost 2/3, not 50%, and the 2nd wave did go just 2 minutes after the 1st wave. Most experts now agree that after the 1st wave was cut down in 30 seconds, it should have been obvious to all that sending out subsequent waves was futile. While the daylight in this scene is inaccurate, as it was 4:30 am in darkness as you say, the rest of the scene is fairly accurate.
@@erickollman4441 The attack took place over several hours. Each wave was separated by hours, not minutes. I haven't seen anything saying upwards of 66% casualties, only 50%.
@@shaddaboop7998I think similar stuff was said about the battle of Somme where 19000 British troops were KIA being a big myth in general.
For any one interested, the actual original Nek battle orders, post battle reports, trench maps showing disposition of the soldiers involved, etc etc, are held by the Aussie War Memorial and are readily available to read. In the film Gallipoli there are several glaring mistakes which conflict with contemporary documents on the battle. The commenter above is correct, commenced at night time.
According to the post battle reports, first line 'leaped the bags' at 0430hrs, the second line at 0432hrs, the third line at 0436hrs, the last and fourth line at 0440hrs.
In the original post battle reports written by the senior surviving officer of each unit, there is no mention of a 7 minute gap between the end of the bombardment and the first charge. The battle orders state a bombardment to commence at midnight and cease at 0430hrs.
Gallipoli shows 10th Light Horse charging first, whereas original documents show the 10th were in the third and fourth line of charging men. The 8th charged first. Mel Gibson running through the trenches to stop the charge, is puzzling cos where he ran from - Brigade HQ, was located in a trench sap at the right hand side of the charging men. The man on the extreme right end of the men waiting to chargwe, could have reached around the corner of the trench and shaken hands with brigade staff, they were so close. So where this running came from is puzzling.
There are other mistakes such as the Aussies were wearing their shirts not wool serge jackets, slouch hats were not worn, instead, they were ordered to wear Brit Army pith helmets or sun helmets. Shirts all had a white patch sewn on the back of their shirts near the shoulder as a readily identifiable friend or foe indicator.
On each and every line of charging Aussies there were two Brit soldiers - sappers of the Royal Engineers.There was a fifth and sixth line of men waiting to charge but did not charge cos the battle was cancelled. These were Brits of the Cheshire Regiment and were located in trenches directly behind the men of the Tenth Light Horse.
The above is all found in 1915 documents held by the Aussie War Memorial.
As an Aussie I truly respect what the A.N.Z.A.C’S have done for us
Did they do anything for you or just were forced to die in a meaningless war on an irrelevant battlefield? The turks at least defended their home country...
@@ferenckonya8593 "The turks at least defended their home country" Was that before or after attacking Russia unprovoked or committing Genocide against the Armenians?
Also Gallipoli a little like the war of 1812 for the US went a long way to forming a national identity for both Australia and NZ, so hardly meaningless.
We’ll war isn’t allowed in Australia but yes they were forced to sacrifice their lives for us@@ferenckonya8593
@@Delogros The "attacking Russia unprovoked" is funny because the alliances betweenthe powers were quite obvious and Russia was the first in the mobilization...
The Gallipoli campaign was not a rescue mission for Armenians and the genocide begun two months after the beginning of the battle.
Still something: How much is better to kill aboriginals in Australia than to kill Armenians in Turkey?
More than 12000 Australian and New Zelandean soldiers died in a stranger continent, in a perfectly unsuccessful action, in a conflict in they were not naturally interested,...You really can be proud of it...
@@ferenckonya8593 "The "attacking Russia unprovoked" is funny because the alliances betweenthe powers were quite obvious and Russia was the first in the mobilization...
" you know this sentence makes literally no sense right? Russia mobilizing for war with Ger,any has nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire attacking the Crimea unprovoked.
"The Gallipoli campaign was not a rescue mission for Armenians and the genocide begun two months after the beginning of the battle." When did I ever say it was? 2 sentences down and neither of them are actually about anything I said to you :S
"Still something: How much is better to kill aboriginals in Australia than to kill Armenians in Turkey?" So committing intentional Genocide at the state level is fine because the British local government in Australia let some of their colonists do bad things to the aborigines? I mean I'm certainly not going to defend the killings in the way you're desperately trying to use them to defend a genocide of the Armenians but there was no state intent to kill aborigines while the same is not true for the Ottomans.
Also as a side note (not that it should matter but since you brought it up) Aborigines deaths where about 14,000, there are 812,000 today Armenian deaths where up to 1.5 Million and there are 10 Million ethnic Armenians today, so since this is the hill you seem so desperate to die on.
Relative population killed - Armenians 15% compared to 1.7% of Aboriginals today (and of course over a much longer period for Australia)
I'm not Australian or from New Zealand, but what you said doesn't in anyway change my original point, WW1 is what helped give these 2 countries a national identity and they where fighting entrenched Turks in pretty much the best defensive ground of the war and still managed to inflict roughly equal casualties on them which should be am embarrassment for the Turks who to be even slightly efficient had to be lead by the Germans
"Order is to go.... but you can go to the the general first and take him with you"
As a Turk this scene has always made me shed a tear. Lots of young men dying for nothing
My relative Henry Arthur Pearcey was killed during the 3rd battle of Krithia in 1915, served in the 2nd Battalion Hampshire Regiment. He was 25 years old. RIP
0:33 the same actor as the LT. in movie "Bunker" from 2004.
Bravo sei buon osservatore😂😂
Respect ANZAC and Turks soldiers
From Brazil
War is old men talking & young men dying.
A brilliant film which shows the fighting qualities of the Aussies at their best.
Harold Rush Soldier of the 10th Australian Light Horse turns to his Friend and say: ''Goodbye Cobber, God Bless You''
Onur ve cesaretleri ile ölen tüm şehitlere selam olsun .
Frontal attack is worst military strategy ever
In my opinion the worst is volley fire formation.
@@longxiao9823 before wwi volley fire was very effective
@@Eccho3 Effective against another volley fire regiment, perhaps.
@@longxiao9823 for the doctrine of the time it was very effective against many formations, having the constant fire downrange that volley fire had was pretty decent
Volleys could take down waves of charging troops, lines of troops, and various other formations
Tell that to the Ottoman army besieging Vienna in 17.century who then suddenly realises Jan Sobieski and his winged hussars at right their behind galloping their horses towards them lol. Peace out from Istanbul
In 1919 Charles Bean the Australian historian went back to Gallipoli and walked the Nek battlefield, he wrote that the bleached white skeletal remains of those who fell 7/8/1915 thickly covered the ground. There were still scraps of uniform on the troopers bones. The Turks had just left the bodies to rot after the allies left Gallipoli. RIP Brave men. Another sad fact is that there were at least two sets of brothers in the 8 light horse that were killed that morning. RIP
One of the most heart-breaking scenes in cinema. One cant imagine the terror of being there.
0:57 war drama preparing
2:17 Thinking because he could affect how it plays out
4:47 building up tension
7:27 main character as the movie is invoking sympathy for him
You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal ATATURK
I don’t think any war can compare to WW1. Probably the worse war in terms of human carnage that there ever was. Lest We Forget 😞.
I dont know ww2 was a mean bitxh as well.
Every war has its horrifying battles… There maybe was wars with more human carnage, but you really can’t compare wars like that.
he just did tho
@Jonathan Birch personal opinion.
@Jonathan Birch personal opinion man
Gallipoli is why the last 4 generations of males in my family will refuse to fight in war.
Ben bir türküm. Avustralyalı kahramanlara saygı duyuyorum ❤
I can well understand that reasoning.
Both my grandparents fought at Gallipoli for the South Lancashire Regiment and the Lancashire Fusilier’s. Both survived, but grandfather Farrell’s war ended there Ashe was shot in the left leg twice.
The thumbnail on this looked like an old timey soldier vaping. Not the video I was expecting to watch. Powerful stuff... Rest in peace lads...
The Turkish felt a bit bad and they were like "what hell are they doing? Are they the bravest soldiers in the world?".
In reality Turkish soldiers actually yelled out to the Anzac side to stop, shed tears after watching the massacare... At night after all the fighting was over Turkish soldiers prayed for the fallen Anzacs.
@@mr.tobacco1708 That's actually really honorable. Even enemies back then had enough humanity in them to realize that it wasn't personal and that bravery is a universally commendable quality
"Next line, be ready to be killed "
I remember this scene from when I watched it and seeing them put their photos on the wall of the trench and running to their deaths, something i doubt any one has the guts to do now. I serve to remember them.
Surely keeps hapenning. Like in ukraine war. All wars are tragedys.
Why do we fight isn't life short enough, just to look how beautiful our home Earth is and the heart we been given to love our precious life's ❤️ Thou shall not kill. David Lloyd Bridgland.
“Next to a battle lost, the saddest thing is a battle won” Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
This would be a foolish tactic even if the enemy was shooting musket rifles. WTH were the commanders thinking?
That's literally what they did but in a perfect line with muskets
This was really the first modern war that wasn't lines of people firing muskets or single shot rifles at each other where machine guns and other weapons were just being designed and fielded the people higher up were expecting it to be like every other war but it wasn't
That's what the naval barrage was for. To scatter the defenders allowing gaps for your infantry to assult. It worked at lone pine pretty well
To put it simply the Brits did not care for the Australians, if the 1000 died for that line on a map so be it. The British not wanting to lose their pwestige lost Hundreds of Thousands of lives.
@@rexisnox577 strange this was an Australian officer commanding majority british troops then, and that british casualties at gallipoli far outweighed australian
Nothing more chilling than understanding how stupid it is to go over the top after: you blow a whistle and have everyone know you're coming with A- no previous artillery barrage, no smoke screens, and no well planned flanking mission. To understand you have to die for no reason at all. So dumb.
This was Churchill’s worst moment. It haunted him for the rest of his life.
No one knew how to fight WW1
@@Angelcynn-x9m you’re absolutely right. Technology on the battlefield has evolved so quickly over the last century that it even overwhelms commanders today. Look at the $50 drones that make multi million dollar pieces of armor obsolete in Ukraine.
@@johndoran3274 I agree commanders did try things like digging under enemy trenches or heavy artillery barrages like at the Somme but often lack of heavy guns or trained crews would mean artillery barrages fail and men would end up charging intact trenches just like the Somme and i think even this battle
@@Angelcynn-x9m before I shipped out for Saudi Arabia back in 1990 for Desert Storm, I went to the American Legion with my father and grandfather for a drink. My grandfather was a tanker in WW11 and my father did 2 tours of duty in Vietnam. I sat next to a WW 1 vet and talked with him for hours. He was part of the Marine Expeditionary Force and fought in Belleau Wood. That conversation is burned into my brain as I could see the pain in him describing the horrible things he witnessed.
@@johndoran3274 One of my family members was a tanker in WW2 he fought at El Alamaine he was later captured by the Italians and suffered through horrendous conditions (the Italians hated the British because they were losing so badly) an old Italian lady gave the prisoners some bread so the Italians hung her outside the camp he said he was glad when they were given to the Germans he died a year after the war from something he caught in the prisoner of war camps another one of my family died a few weeks after Normandy he was shot by a German Sniper and drowned in his own blood war is very sad but young men will always want to fight
One of my ancestors Corporal Denis Duval 10th Light horse died there. He was in the third wave. They never recovered his body. Incredibly brave men killed by the ineptness of Lieutenant Colonel John (Bull) Antill (later Major General with other royal awards) who ordered the attacks to continue. Makes me sick!
If only the british had bothered to read helmuth Von Moltkes writings from 40 years earlier. Give the NCOs general directives, trian and reward them for taking the initiative. Looking at this and battles in ww2, it seems the british were still hanging on to napoleonic era command and control structures which were useless with the technologies available at the time.
There was no winner after WW1 and to this day we still suffer from the consequences of that war.
It also captured how stupid the leadership was at that time. I guess things never change.
Things are differnt now
Lions being led by donkeys as the old saying goes.
@@ewenbarraclough8367 nope, brits still using someone else to die for their sake, even today
"And oft in the shades of the twilight,
When the soft winds are whispering low,
And the dark'ning shadows are falling,
Sometimes think of the men down below." 😢
Think all the men down below* but good trying doing the lyrics he was singing
@@UnitedNation_ that sir was copy and paste
@@Casey757 okay…
@@UnitedNation_ you’re being weird.
@@Casey757 what?
The detail in this video clip shows that the makers of this movie must have read the original battle orders held by Aussie War Memorial, the sun helmets, the white patch of cloth stitched to the upper rear of the shirt, are each set down in the original orders issued by HQ 3rd Light Horse Brigade which are available to read on the web -Aussie War Memorial website. The post battle reports by the surviving most senior officer of each unit makes from illuminating reading when we consider the myths surrounding the Battle of the Nek, for instance, the 7 minute gap between the end of the bombardment and the first line charging, as shown in the 1980s film 'Gallipoli' appears to be a myth cos the original post battle reports show the bombardment stopped at 4.30am and the first line of 8th Lighthorsemen charging at 4.30am.
In Gallipoli war soldier memories, soldiers were joking with each other. I had heard it yesterday. Anzac soldiers had put barbed wire in front of the trench, the next day they looked, the wire mesh was in front of the Turkish side, a note had been sent by the Turks. Tie the wires long, it becomes difficult to carry when cut short. In another moment, a note was sent by the Turks. Surrender within 24 hours, if you do not surrender, we will surrender...
The British Command did not allow a ceasefire twice because in the first ceasefire, the Anzacs and the Turks started to become friends. If people are friends, you cannot order them fight. The same situation started on the western front on New Year's Evening , the soldiers rejected to attack each other. People must help each other not fight. War is a method of Devil
All both sides of fallen are brothers and fathers to each other in death as they are enemies life.They all heroes.
Not taking anything from the Anzacs, but the Gallipoli campaign cost many more British casualties, more Indian and Gurkha casualties and I believe more French casualties than the losses suffered by Australian or New Zealand troops.
It should be remembered by Australia and New Zealand but many Australian people believe that the upper class English high command sacrificed the Anzacs and kept the British troops safe, and the reality is that many of the Anzacs were actually born in the British Isles and probably considered themselves to be British soldiers.
Like I said, I'm not denigrating the sacrifices made by Australia and New Zealand but it seems that the Australian public is convinced that it was the evil British aristocracy sending Aussie volunteers to their deaths, when the allied forces consisted of a relatively small fraction of Anzacs and the total number of English casualties was much higher than the number of Anzac casualties.
The vast majority of the ANZAC Forces were English or British born, with the rest being 2nd or 3rd generation British immigrants. The vast majority of losses at Gallipoli were by the British Army. The so called British aristocracy had a higher % of being killed then the average infantry men, especially as their sons were the junior officers leading the waves forward.
Retired Aussie Armoured Corps soldier here. Brits lost three times the number of Aussies on Gallipoli. Think it was 25,000 Brits killed on Gallipoli but this was a 'side show' for the Brits, where as for Aussies and NZ's this was their first war as a nation and why Gallipoli and ANZAC Day is so seared into our minds. In the 1980s, I served with the descendant regiment of the 8th Light Horse Regiment (of Gallipoli fame).