I've never seen a Quake match where the characters are locked in a staring contest while both players frantically press buttons to find the button mapped to fire.
When I was in high school I tried using the DDR pads for Smash (can't remember if it was melee or brawl), but it didn't really work, since the arrows only let you taunt. Granted, it seems kind of fitting that a DDR pad would make you taunt, but unfortunate from a weird-and-janky-but-fun-way-to-play perspective.
thanks for reminding me of this, i forgot to watch that ever. im more glad that searching with "scream in to n64 controller" brings it up as the first result.
@@daltondarko2016 as a hardcore DDR player who's used a pad to play all sorts of games, the best thing I can say is "it can be done". it's much easier in tony hawk than it is in SSX, at least
@@daltondarko2016 The answer is: I spent about half an hour trying to do an ollie and a 180 grab trick in Foundry, and it was borderline impossible to stick the landing as it's really hard to see the TV when you're crouching down to hit the O pad with your hand! Also my parents probably thought I was mad.
Silly video. I have been subscribed for quite some time and have yet to see any serious campaigning on the skeleton violence topic as the channel name deceivingly suggests. I will be forwarding a complaint to TH-cam for misleading content ✌
When I was in high school, we played Tekken 3 on a pair of MadCatz beat pads. It was the most awful, cringe-inducing, fun time I had ever had at a birthday party. Also, to answer your question at 17:21, DDR uses X and O as the primary interaction buttons. Square and Triangle are basically unused. For that reason, they put those two up top so you can step forward to select instead of having to step back.
"This sucks, what are you supposed to do!" Wow, never heard that from him before, even when playing with the right controller on a game that explains itself well.
Arin: Hey, I'm Grump! Derek: I stop skeletons from fighting! Both: And! We're! Punching Weight! Alternatively... Derek: Arin Hanson is our guest on the show and the show's name is Punching Weight!
When I tested games in various departments at Nintendo, we had to make sure the games would work with all the peripherals. The steering wheels made for the N64 and GC were a weird but fun alternative play style at times. I also tested Kirby's Tilt 'n Tumble, and we would use the unreleased GBC player on the N64 to record bugs for developers. Holding and tilting the console to control the game was an unexpectedly fun experience.
The TH-cam demonitisation bots only look for swearing in the first few minutes of the video. It's a completely asinine system but you do what you have to.
Man i gotta say SSFF is gotta be my new fav gaming channel! I'm a huge retro nerd myself and I just love your encyclopedic knowledge. You can sense the genuine passion in your work
I was seeing arin in the credits for years of this being like... "That's not... like THE arin, right?" And then that time derek talked about people who are more successful than him on youtube calling him a big inspiration... it all adds up.
Arin: "Oh, this is so much better!" *Immediately fails.* Good to see Arin is consistent. 😁 Completely unrelated, but this is the third time I've had to subscribe to you, Derek. Thanks, TH-cam. 😔
@@ultimateblong that's pretty yikes if you feel that way. too bad you seem to also be stubbornly unable to budge on not fucking hating him. good luck on dealing with whatever you're going through
I used to have one of those Ascii Grip controllers. After a wrist surgery, i was unable to use my right hand for a few months. Thanks to the Ascii grip, i was able to play through FInal Fantasy 7 while recovering.
Ah yes, how could I forget how those presidential faces were carved into rock by wind and how the space needle was formed by melting glaciers. Two of my favorite wonders created by the elements and very much not by man
Arin: "Why would I play this? Everyone says this is the worst game ever." Really Arin? You, the guy who seems to derive MORE joy from playing terrible games than good ones, don't know why you would play Superman 64? That seems like something that's about as up your alley as games get.
That "ASCI Grip" or whatever it's called reminds me of the fact that you can play Suikoden with one hand. They decided to bind Confirm and Cancel to L1 and L2, and Open Menu to Select in addition to Square, Cross and Circle so you can play the entire game with just your left hand.
I’m always happy to see Arin No matter where Arin goes there’s always a comment section waiting to dunk on the dude for being bad at video games apparently
This reminds me of when I used to play Soulcalibur for the Dreamcast with the Fishing Rod controller. Occasionally in matches with someone playing on the Keyboard. I always had a fascination with gimmicky controllers and what they might be like in other contexts. It's not quite a "Wrong Controller" thing, but the Sega Saturn game SCUD: Disposable Assassin had two different game modes, a platformer and a rail shooter. If you plugged in two light guns, it'd play just the rail shooter levels. Even in D-Pad mode you had to play some rail shooter segments. If you had one player on a D-Pad and player 2 on the light gun, you'd have both the platformer and rail shooter segments, except the guy with the gun could freeze enemies to help the platformer player. Well, it had One D-Pad, One Player One Gun, One Player Two Guns, Two Players Two Guns, and Two Players D-Pad+Gun... I got it in my head to play it One Player D-Pad + Gun... and it actually worked pretty well. I wish I had a copy and a CRT to capture it and show people.
@@CarbonRollerCaco While not untrue (meant sarcastically or not,) it's more because even when they first came out I found the Tony Hawk games to be quite intuitive to play, so seeing someone struggle so hard with them -- weird controllers or no -- when I've seen them talk about/play much more complex games just seems wrong.
@@guerillagrueplays6301 THPS games have jump charging and use that for acceleration as well, plus just pushing a board flip or board grab button by itself does nothing, so n00bs will naturally struggle quite a bit at first, especially if they're playing the first game without the manual.
Some of my best memories involve playing PS1/PS2 games with the DVD remote. It worked really well with a lot of RPG and puzzle games, but nothing else, really.
I never noticed Arin was in the Patreon credits. Not like I read them, but that's cool. I love when 2 different channels I watch do a collab. So satisfying.
Is that bad that now I want to see somebody playing Bubsy 3D with the fishing controller? ...okay, this might be a tad too cruel. Great video, guys! I laughed so hard here
Has Arin not seen the classic AVGN Superman 64? That might be James' most purely funny episode. I always die at the realistic frustration. "MORE RINGS!" I am genuinely jealous of the TH-cam community sometimes and how connected they all are. Arin is literally friends with everyone. He seems like a really good guy.
Here's a crazy controller setup you need in your life. 1. Buy the Wii Cyberbike 2. Buy Midway Arcade Treasures for the Gamecube 3. Hook it all up to your Wii 4. Play Paperboy on the Cyberbike on the Wii, pedal your way to victory!
The way you guys just play together is like playing with your best friends who wanna play video games and just fuck around with a bit of salt throw around. Love you guys. I actually miss, Nackbone.
I mean I used to give my brother a random controller to play with while I was playing video games so he wouldn't feel left out, but of course it didn't work after a year, because he realized it was me playing not him lol! 😂😂😂
The Pop'n Music controller always has left, down and right pressed down to identify as a Pop'n controller to compatible games. That explains why it was like that :3
I have an ASCII Grip, and it's a surprisingly perfect controller for RPGs. Not surprised it failed, but it's a great little device for menu-driven games.
During Xmas in 99/00 or so me and my brother received some extra money as a gift and both bought conker and Pikachu for N64 for only 10$ each (wish I knew they would had been valuable in the later years, but at least we still own them in box) we also tried the voice command with every game we owned and I think it was star fox or turòk that let you shoot by screaming
Sometimes I use the pack from the xBox Guitar Hero drum kit to play Tekken because you don't need shoulder buttons, also not exactly the "Wrong" controller, but when the internet first came to the PS2 I played alot of Twisted Metal Black using I think a Fanatec Speedster steering wheel which I had used playing Need for Speed Underground cross platform PS2 and PC.
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I've never seen a Quake match where the characters are locked in a staring contest while both players frantically press buttons to find the button mapped to fire.
Back when I was in college, we'd sometimes play Soul Calibur with DDR pads.
We called it "Toe Calibur." It was great.
Mark F Sole Calibur
@@rat9625 thanks, i hate you
Fun times!
I went to the wrong college apparently
When I was in high school I tried using the DDR pads for Smash (can't remember if it was melee or brawl), but it didn't really work, since the arrows only let you taunt. Granted, it seems kind of fitting that a DDR pad would make you taunt, but unfortunate from a weird-and-janky-but-fun-way-to-play perspective.
I would imagine that they wold make you play Superman 64 with a mouse in hell...
Actually they might make the controls better if done right
@@thegreygoblin5165 there lies the problem dunnit? "Done right" can be applied to all of the game 😂
*Im just here to remind you that Arin has a modded n64 controller made by William Osman that can only input B when you scream into its mic*
i loved that
I'm glad you said this.
I'm pretty sure a Hey You Pikachu controller can do that too...
thanks for reminding me of this, i forgot to watch that ever. im more glad that searching with "scream in to n64 controller" brings it up as the first result.
I'm here to remind *YOU* there was also originally supposed to be a *MOISTURE SENSOR*
Arin: "WHoH! that's cool! can i have that?"
Derek (visibly annoyed): "no"
He didn't look annoyed really.
Arin rarely plays RPGS so that was a no for sure
> uses a N64 mouse over a Playstation mouse pad
"Wait, that's illegal"
I will make it legal.
And I'll start a coup Coup d'état
He even did that in the original "N64 Mouse" video, and no one really minded then.
@@hudde814 don't ruin the joke, thanks
Ignore the law.
Jotaro Kujo.
As someone who once attempted to play Tony Hawk on a full size PS2 dance mat, this video has made me very happy.
I need to know how this turned out lmao please spare no details
@@daltondarko2016 as a hardcore DDR player who's used a pad to play all sorts of games, the best thing I can say is "it can be done". it's much easier in tony hawk than it is in SSX, at least
Played medal of honor 1 on a dance mat as a kid thinking I was smart. Cleared 2 levels before I stopped. Yea nah.
@@daltondarko2016 The answer is: I spent about half an hour trying to do an ollie and a 180 grab trick in Foundry, and it was borderline impossible to stick the landing as it's really hard to see the TV when you're crouching down to hit the O pad with your hand!
Also my parents probably thought I was mad.
Silly video. I have been subscribed for quite some time and have yet to see any serious campaigning on the skeleton violence topic as the channel name deceivingly suggests.
I will be forwarding a complaint to TH-cam for misleading content ✌
Dude, I ain't never seen skeletons fight, so I think he's doing a good job at it.
Core a gaming: don’t use a racing wheel to play fighting games
Ssff: I’m gonna stop you right there * makes this video *
I think Initial T beat them to it
When I was in high school, we played Tekken 3 on a pair of MadCatz beat pads. It was the most awful, cringe-inducing, fun time I had ever had at a birthday party. Also, to answer your question at 17:21, DDR uses X and O as the primary interaction buttons. Square and Triangle are basically unused. For that reason, they put those two up top so you can step forward to select instead of having to step back.
"Playing Games with Wrong Controllers"
Funny, Arin plays wrong *even with the right controllers*
"This sucks, what are you supposed to do!" Wow, never heard that from him before, even when playing with the right controller on a game that explains itself well.
Imagine people shitting on Arin for not understanding *Superman 64*
Dan's *pew pew pew pew pew* noises.
Arin is the wrong controller
@@MrSkerpentine Imagine not being able to understand flying through rings.
Arin just gave the highest amount of praise Superman 64 will ever get. EVER.
Arin has trouble playing games with standard controllers as intended.
Wow. Please send some of those controllers over to LGR for an oddware episode or ten. I need to know more.
That would be an amazing cross over, LGR and SSFF controller review.
I need this, like, yesterday.
Grumps, LGR and SSFF super friends!
Does he review console stuff though? He mostly does PC stuff. Maybe the gaming historian?
@@AltimaNEO yes he does sometimes
If the Donkey Kong bongos aren't here, I'll be disappointed.
Geek Critique would be triggered.
DUDE the ASCII grip!! I still use that for RPG speedruns, chumping it up forever #onehandedboys
Soul Calibre, with the Fishing Rod, on the Dreamcast
... that sounds kind of like I am playing Clue...
Katrina Payne That sounds like a great disaster
Arin: Hey, I'm Grump!
Derek: I stop skeletons from fighting!
Both: And! We're! Punching Weight!
Alternatively...
Derek: Arin Hanson is our guest on the show and the show's name is Punching Weight!
This is the alternative universe where Arin Hanson invited his favorite AVGN wannabe J̶o̶n̶t̶r̶o̶n̶ Happy Video Game Nerd to cohost Game Grumps
Huh, would you look at that! They plugged the Pop'n controller in and Quake became a rhythm game!
"The Seattle Space Needle was created by the elements" - Arin Hansen
When I tested games in various departments at Nintendo, we had to make sure the games would work with all the peripherals. The steering wheels made for the N64 and GC were a weird but fun alternative play style at times.
I also tested Kirby's Tilt 'n Tumble, and we would use the unreleased GBC player on the N64 to record bugs for developers. Holding and tilting the console to control the game was an unexpectedly fun experience.
what if Arin still have the controller that William made? I wonder if Derek knows about it
He kept it.
Disappointed they didn’t try Perfect Dark and one of the dual-controller control schemes
Game grumps more like game chumps
Lame Lumps
Yech!
Glame Glumps
Dame Dumps
Dan: "Welcome back to Butt Lumps!"
- Grumps, circa Super Mario Bros. 3
*I love how you guys tried to stay family friendly no cursing but your real selves came out half way through the video*
The TH-cam demonitisation bots only look for swearing in the first few minutes of the video. It's a completely asinine system but you do what you have to.
The grumps are going ad friendly now, no bad language. At least according to the undertale stream
Man i gotta say SSFF is gotta be my new fav gaming channel! I'm a huge retro nerd myself and I just love your encyclopedic knowledge. You can sense the genuine passion in your work
I was seeing arin in the credits for years of this being like... "That's not... like THE arin, right?" And then that time derek talked about people who are more successful than him on youtube calling him a big inspiration... it all adds up.
I'd be down with seeing more of this. Other guest bringing there own controllers and periphirals, could be really cool
Arin: "Oh, this is so much better!"
*Immediately fails.*
Good to see Arin is consistent. 😁
Completely unrelated, but this is the third time I've had to subscribe to you, Derek. Thanks, TH-cam. 😔
Wow as someone who subbed at like 10-20k it's cool to see how far this has gone.
I like how they're actually at odds with each other with their banter. Makes me think Arin still has friends.
Oof
He does though?
@@Panda_SMM Suuuuuuuure he does. If he pays them, anyone would be his friend.
@@ultimateblong that's pretty yikes if you feel that way. too bad you seem to also be stubbornly unable to budge on not fucking hating him. good luck on dealing with whatever you're going through
@@Panda_SMM literally all his friends are his employees lol
Seeing Arin play PS1 games with a Pop'n Music controller makes me very happy.
Also, he played Stepmania? Damn, I gotta get back into that sometime.
“Oh this is much better”
LEX WINS
I used to have one of those Ascii Grip controllers. After a wrist surgery, i was unable to use my right hand for a few months. Thanks to the Ascii grip, i was able to play through FInal Fantasy 7 while recovering.
Arin: Superman isn't so bad.
Well are you grump or are you not so grump???
*Arin Enters The Fray!*
*Fucks Increased By 9000!*
Alternate reality where Derek became the next Game Grump instead of Danny
I'd love to see a serious video game tournament using these types of controllers.
Ah yes, how could I forget how those presidential faces were carved into rock by wind and how the space needle was formed by melting glaciers. Two of my favorite wonders created by the elements and very much not by man
That was the joke
Arin had never played Suyperman 64? Well now we need him to do that exact thing over on Game Grumps and have Danny along for the ride
I'll be majorly disappointed if they don't play Steel Battalion with an Atari 2600 controller.
I would love to see Stop Skeletons now in an episode of Game Grumps. This footage was golden.
Mount Rushmore and the Space Needle “Created by the elements!”
Arin being able to enjoy Superman 64 playing normally after only using the mouse is honestly a fat mood
Now we just need an episode with James Rolfe.
Them: Look at that progress
Me: THAT'S A LOT OF PROGRESS
Arin: "Why would I play this? Everyone says this is the worst game ever."
Really Arin? You, the guy who seems to derive MORE joy from playing terrible games than good ones, don't know why you would play Superman 64? That seems like something that's about as up your alley as games get.
Yeah thought he meant that controller is poppin too, it looks poppin
"hey I'm grump" "hey Derek I'm Derek" "and we're the Derek grumps"
Derek, my dude, I FUCKING LOVE your shirt
"stop being a Superman 64 centrist" lmfao
No one:
Not a single soul:
Arin:this game isn't so bad.
As you'd expect from a contrarian.
David McGill Oh my god lol! 😂😂😂
David McGill Yeah, I guess so. 🤷♀️
Wow Superman 64 still looks easier to control with the mouse
That "ASCI Grip" or whatever it's called reminds me of the fact that you can play Suikoden with one hand. They decided to bind Confirm and Cancel to L1 and L2, and Open Menu to Select in addition to Square, Cross and Circle so you can play the entire game with just your left hand.
"its like, so close to functionting"
...thats what she said
Me, 2 weeks ago: "Oh look, SSFF, maybe I should watch something besides Game Grumps reruns for a while..."
I’m always happy to see Arin
No matter where Arin goes there’s always a comment section waiting to dunk on the dude for being bad at video games apparently
This reminds me of when I used to play Soulcalibur for the Dreamcast with the Fishing Rod controller. Occasionally in matches with someone playing on the Keyboard. I always had a fascination with gimmicky controllers and what they might be like in other contexts.
It's not quite a "Wrong Controller" thing, but the Sega Saturn game SCUD: Disposable Assassin had two different game modes, a platformer and a rail shooter. If you plugged in two light guns, it'd play just the rail shooter levels. Even in D-Pad mode you had to play some rail shooter segments. If you had one player on a D-Pad and player 2 on the light gun, you'd have both the platformer and rail shooter segments, except the guy with the gun could freeze enemies to help the platformer player.
Well, it had One D-Pad, One Player One Gun, One Player Two Guns, Two Players Two Guns, and Two Players D-Pad+Gun... I got it in my head to play it One Player D-Pad + Gun... and it actually worked pretty well. I wish I had a copy and a CRT to capture it and show people.
Yeah the SCUD game was the only game I can think of to let you dual wield light guns as one player. Also, the comic itself is amazing.
Watching people who are professional gamers struggle so much with THPS makes me hurt. SO BAD.
Because we all need to have that as part of our experience even if we're not interested in extreme sports.
@@CarbonRollerCaco While not untrue (meant sarcastically or not,) it's more because even when they first came out I found the Tony Hawk games to be quite intuitive to play, so seeing someone struggle so hard with them -- weird controllers or no -- when I've seen them talk about/play much more complex games just seems wrong.
just wait till you see Arin on his own channel
@@guerillagrueplays6301 THPS games have jump charging and use that for acceleration as well, plus just pushing a board flip or board grab button by itself does nothing, so n00bs will naturally struggle quite a bit at first, especially if they're playing the first game without the manual.
The pop'n controller announces its presence to games that care by holding down d-pad L+R+D. Hence the dizzy Arin in Quake II.
"These controls are like tight enough for this to sorta make sense"
*misses a ring*
"Ahh shit"
Man, Arin is incredible. Managing to play with the same skill with these pheripherals as he does with the regular controllers!
He played zelda CDI with *The Presentation controller.* Legendary!
Some of my best memories involve playing PS1/PS2 games with the DVD remote. It worked really well with a lot of RPG and puzzle games, but nothing else, really.
My two favorite people on the internet in ONE VIDEO?! YES PLEASE!!! :D
Arin:You aren't wiping out as much as you should be.
*wipes out*
Laughed so hard lol! 😂😂😂👍
Watching Arin play Superman 64 somehow felt like a mini episode of Game Grumps.
I never noticed Arin was in the Patreon credits. Not like I read them, but that's cool. I love when 2 different channels I watch do a collab. So satisfying.
I can't tell if the controllers are making things more difficult or if it's just Arin.
Yes
It's always just Arin
Mostly column B, but column A isn't helping.
Arin: "Hey I'm Chump!"
Derek: "I'm not so Chump!"
Both: "And we're the Game Chumps!"
Is that bad that now I want to see somebody playing Bubsy 3D with the fishing controller?
...okay, this might be a tad too cruel.
Great video, guys! I laughed so hard here
1:10 ad skip
I really like that Arin thinks the Seattle space needle was created by the forces of nature
They seem like great friends that are both half asleep because they've been playing Pokémon Stadium for 15 hours
Did I just hear Aaron do his Irate gamer impersonation 😮? 23:03 This collab is legendary and should help grow SSFF
Has Arin not seen the classic AVGN Superman 64? That might be James' most purely funny episode. I always die at the realistic frustration. "MORE RINGS!"
I am genuinely jealous of the TH-cam community sometimes and how connected they all are. Arin is literally friends with everyone. He seems like a really good guy.
IT'S NO USE!!!!
For some reason, i want arin and derek to be in a buddy cop comedy where they solve videogame crimes.
I'm known for showing up to parties with 3rd Strike and dance pads. It's always a good time, I highly recommend it.
Superman 64 - "Actually kinda fun"
Star Fox 64 - "Pretty boring"
Arin Hanson 2019
Here's a crazy controller setup you need in your life.
1. Buy the Wii Cyberbike
2. Buy Midway Arcade Treasures for the Gamecube
3. Hook it all up to your Wii
4. Play Paperboy on the Cyberbike on the Wii, pedal your way to victory!
The way you guys just play together is like playing with your best friends who wanna play video games and just fuck around with a bit of salt throw around.
Love you guys.
I actually miss, Nackbone.
Is no one gonna talk about Arin's hair pulled back cuz 👌👌 Top notch
First Matt, now Arin. My bois, Grace and Derek are killing it.
I mean I used to give my brother a random controller to play with while I was playing video games so he wouldn't feel left out, but of course it didn't work after a year, because he realized it was me playing not him lol! 😂😂😂
Love this. Reminds me of trying to play every game I had for xbox 360 with a guitar hero controller
Did you beat dark souls?
Gamer trash talk is the best trash talk.
You two need to do more shit together because this episode was SPICY
This has to become a regular thing. Arin and Derek have great comedic chemistry.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a better Duo apart from Arin and Dan
Their banter is hilarious! They sound like they're brothers.
12:55 that laugh hahaha OMS is hilarious
The Pop'n Music controller always has left, down and right pressed down to identify as a Pop'n controller to compatible games. That explains why it was like that :3
Oh man I can't wait to watch this after work. New SSFF always bring a smile to my face
29:12 I found it! Next to madamecrystal
I have an ASCII Grip, and it's a surprisingly perfect controller for RPGs. Not surprised it failed, but it's a great little device for menu-driven games.
OK, I’ll be honest, I did not expect Arin Hanson, of all people, to know Pop’n Music.
During Xmas in 99/00 or so me and my brother received some extra money as a gift and both bought conker and Pikachu for N64 for only 10$ each (wish I knew they would had been valuable in the later years, but at least we still own them in box) we also tried the voice command with every game we owned and I think it was star fox or turòk that let you shoot by screaming
13:45 This reminds me of that one time I tried to play Minecraft using the DJHero controller.
Derek I think this should be a weekly stream. This is hilarious😂
Sometimes I use the pack from the xBox Guitar Hero drum kit to play Tekken because you don't need shoulder buttons, also not exactly the "Wrong" controller, but when the internet first came to the PS2 I played alot of Twisted Metal Black using I think a Fanatec Speedster steering wheel which I had used playing Need for Speed Underground cross platform PS2 and PC.
It's quite awesome that you got Arin on a video, he's a pretty funny guy lol! 😂😂😂👍