Bloodstained Kickstarter Breakdown | Past Mortem [SSFF]
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The Bloodstained Kickstarter may have learned just as much from Mighty No. 9’s incredible successes as it did from its spectacular failures.
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We wanted to add a short review section of Bloodstained into this video but the timing just didn't match up. But since finishing and releasing this video, we've had a chance to really sink our teeth into the game and we think Bloodstained is great! Still can't yet say something like "Better than Symphony of the Night" but it's definitely holding its own with other Metroidvania titles that are out right now and as far as Kickstarter games goes, Iga delivered on this one!
I wonder if this might revive the model.
Sadly I'm going to wait a week to get my copy
I'm glad about that... I gotta wait to get it and I'm avoiding any spoilers. New SSFF would have broken that embargo (some things you see, you click).
@@greenhowie and there's nothing wrong with that
@@Jekyll_Jackal Sometimes... reality has to come first :( I miss being a kid and not having any bills to pay.
Let me remove that wonder.
Bloodstained Ritual of the Night is a fantastic game and well worth the wait.
I agree, it's such a joy to see this one be the success. I'm loving it. Samurai Snake (David Hayter) is the best.
I just finished the game earlier and I'm already gonna dive into Hard Mode. Too much fun.
@@SilverNightbane and them in nightmare, and test content
I true Igavania, i love the game so much.
ya. i am always thinking of returning to the game
>ends on a somber note and hints that Bloodstained might actually suck
>Bloodstained is actually dope and everyone is enjoying it.
Crisis averted!
I honestly don't get why he tryed to make it look like the game will be bad or that it's just like MN9.
Did he filmed it before release? If so why? Since the game is amazing this video will age like milk.
of course.
@@dricsi07 Uh... Isn't it obvious?
@@SelecaoOfMidas I mean it is but wouldn't in be Wiseer to wait for it to bereleased?
@@dricsi07 it's pseudo click bait.
I’m 15 hours deep into Bloodstained with 70% exploration.
This game is a triumph.
100% exploration is around the corner...And with it, the rest of the game.
This game is a triumph, I'm writing a note here "Huge Success!".
But is it better than symphony?
@@redcrimson1028 does it really matter?
@@goldoozaru no it doesn't, it's just something i asked everybody who likes the game since it was made by the same person
"4 years ago, in 2015"
Oh god, oh Jesus.
Any time someone says 19- anyyear
I feel super old from being from that century
I'll take a slice of that crushing realization.
“The Wii was 20 years ago”
@@NoiseKidd bruh
I got my first system some 32 years ago. * shuddering intensifies *
Igarashi does what InafuNot.
Good one.
@@liamanderson7082 nope
igarashi is not arrogant and celebratory of his own brilliance. igarashi is living in a Castlevania tangential dimension ergo his vision of Castlevania creates itself.
This deserves way more likes and a pin
I'm a backer of the game. Iga and his team did an excellent job with the game. I didn't so much as care about the extra stuff or stretch goals. I just wanted another Symphony of the Night era Castlevania game and that's what I got. I also backed Mighty No. 9 and didn't even finish one level because of how bad it was. Bloodstained is a far cry from Mighty No. 9 and thank goodness it turned out great.
Backer too here, and I love it too. Also gotta say, the constant backer updates very fantastic. Very transparent, honest and fair and always thinking of quality and the gamer first.
RoTN surpassed my expectations. It's now one of the greatest games of all time. Yes, I love it that much, it's such a fantastic experience in gaming.
Another backer. Sadly I changed to the Switch version a while back, and that got delayed a week so I have yet to play it. Then I have to wait for shipping. Can't wait though, and Hollow Knight has been holding my interest in the meantime.
I was too late for Kickstarter but now I can play thanks to you guys. This is a good successor of the SOTN. Maybe even better game.
Now my support for IGA is 7 copies (physical and digital for several platforms) I've just buyed. For me this is a GOTY.
@@rhtr. GotY for sure!
Inafune: "I guess you can't revitalize the industry with a top-notch quality game of the genre you helped pioneer after decades of working in the AAA space."
Playtonics: "Yeah."
Iga: "Hold my wine." *tosses it on the ground
make up your mind!! you want me to hold your wine or you just don't want it anymore?!?!?
timothy chan
* throws another to the ground *
Kickstarter Bloody Roar when?
I'd love for Bloody Roar to return, but it's unlikely to happen.
"I will prove them wrong!"
Im so happy Bloodstained is an amazing game now that its out. Totally worth the wait. Great video by the way.
like Miyamoto said "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"
@@GiordanDiodato Tell that to Anthem lol
@@WhnNinjasAttack Anthem was left on the back burner until 2017 and development was rushed to hell. not to mention it was made a developer that had literally never made an online loot-based shooter.
@@GiordanDiodato I love the way you think!
@@GiordanDiodato if only EA didn't meddle with Anthem, I bet the game would of been actually pretty good. Same goes for Destiny 2. I have noticed in regards to ambitious AAA titles, they tend to end up suffering from that "rush to meet deadline" issues that turns a great game to a mediocre one at best.
Igarashi is a fucking legend. Hope his game does really well and Bloodstained goes on and on.
It will. 95% into the game and I still can't stop. It's all I've done for 3 days.
What's it like, I hear you say? Take Symphony of the Night as the skeleton, build on it using the 3 DS castlevanias, and finally understand that 4 developers working on graphics paid off. There is your game.
@@DocMcCray you're correct but it's even more than that it's my ten-year-old self's wet dream of everything I thought a video game should be
The dude has a good head on his shoulders.
I remember during the final pre-release Twitch stream for the Kickstarter everyone around him was freaking out over the multiple millions they were being backed for, and IGA's sentiments were to the tune of "yeah, that's nice, can I finish playing this level of Shovel Knight on stream _first,_ please?"
He knows where his priorities lie.
3 years later and you're getting your wish. Iga is already working on another game.
Fun fact, Ben Judd is the voice of Phoenix Wright in the Ace Attorney Series.
OBJECTION!
The first voice of Nick himself. TAKE THAT!
Ah yeah, he's Inafune's translator.
I actually love that Iga's team is taking the Shovel Knight approach to stretch goals. All that extra content would have added years to development! This way they got to focus on making a great game AND we'll get a bunch of new things to play with over time.
Plot twist:
a Kickstarter funded game is actually amazing! I love Bloodstained!
Oh lord, what a MASSIVE difference. They actually LISTENED to criticism and released the game to full positive response.
...
As I thought, the game DOES resemble order of ecclesia a lot.
It's a hybrid of Aria of Sorrow and Order of Ecclesia.
As much as 505 pulled their weight in the back end, it wouldn’t have been possible to make those changes without them.
retrofraction
Everyone involved did their jobs pretty well.
OoE is my favourite in the series. The breaking up of a few zones and making it a bit linear was one of the negative points for me, but the combat, mechanics, fun factor were all top notch in OoE. It also had some of the most unique boss battles. The Boss on top of the lighthouse was tough, and you had to use your abilities in interesting ways. So i'm glad bloodstained took elements from it.
Nuce just got my backer copy and i loved OOE
Fun fact, Ben Judd was also the original English voice of Phoenix Wright.
Good news from... I guess the future... wait... what!
anyways It's great!
Not for a Switch owner lol
So glad Bloodstained turned out to be great
Just need to fix the Switch version
I did not know WayForward was working on this! I love their style so much.
As far as I remember from the Kickstarter News, WayForward was brought in for the polishing phase.
And they have a lot of technical and porting expertise, those dudes know their shit
And what do you know, game seems to be fantastic from early reviews/playthroughs. That's a relief
I like it so far, though it did remind me how much I suck at that kind of game.
Also, there's a Shovel Knight enemy in this game.
“It was not by my hand that I'm once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to play the ultimate IGA-vania...”
Trust me when I say: all the hype is real. This game is INSANE. Pure ‘vania PERFECTION. All hail Koji Igarashi! In my eyes, he is the game designer of the year - no, of the last 22 years (Symphony of the Night came out in 1997). Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night TRULY is the spiritual successor to Castlevania. This game represents everything that was incredible about Symphony of the Night - and far, far more. Metroidvania turned up to ELEVEN. The legend continues.
[flings wine glass aside] But enough talk. Bloodstained awaits... 🧛🏻♀️🦇😈
It ain't that good
it's good but it's got some problems, some being my own minor gripes like a lack of retrying bosses (having to walk back to the boss room might not sound like much but it adds up) to some frustrating moments in the game (spike traps in the underground water zone before you get deep sinker can go to hell) to other design choices i think the game would benefit from having or not having, and that's not even going into the bugs, like some reporting deleted save files, or in my case, not having the option to select hard anymore after changing game language
The game delivered. Whatever you think about Iga, he is the real deal, an actual game director unlike Inafume.
*Has Mighty No. 9 Flashbacks*
I've heard good things about Bloodstained, though.
Oh god
I'm getting this game next weekend. Out of respect for this man, and plus want another metrovainia game to play through.
I speak as a backer........even thoe I didn't bitch I was worried.
Having got the finished game.....
It WAS F**KING WORTH IT ALL!
I'm still playing it.
A wondrous and brilliant continuation to every one of Koji Igarashi titles.
I Regret NOTHING!
No disapointment here, Ritual of the Night is Iga's best game, hands down. In my opinion of course.
IT'S SO GOOD.
I've been playing it every chance I get since release.
I'm with u on that
Haven't yet played Bloodstained, but have heard it blends elements from pretty much all of his Castlevania games. The shard system is ripped straight out of Aria of Sorrow, which is (as of now) my favorite Igarashi game. Can't wait to play Bloodstained!
@@RealBlueony The shard system is actually closer to Dawn of Sorrow with how they can get stronger from collecting multiples, but they can also be upgraded with materials found. Gear can be crafted from those materials as well similar to curse of darkness.... special attacks and familiars can be used ala Symphony of the night (And miriam even controls a lot like alucard complete with downward slashing again finally) yeah it's basically all the best elements of every game he's ever worked on in the castlevania series.
Alicia Fraser yeah, I see what you're saying. I didn't play much of Dawn, even though I loved Aria (weird, I know). But I see what you're saying, and I definitely agree about the fact that it takes the best elements from every game Igarashi worked on.
“Like an anime fan on prom night”
Born different born innoc-oops wrong channel
Thank god for Jim
What about manga fans?
@@OnePunchYume Even bigger nerds.
"GUARANTEED LIFE EMPLOYMENT AT KONAMI"
* laughs in Kojima *
The cruel employers of the outside world would ask of you your effort. Konami merely asks for your _dignity._
Life employment at Konami is a fate worse than death.
@@CommanderWiggins indeed ,it's sort of like a living purgatory...kind of like Lampeduse in Italy
The point of his dream game is that it's our dream game :3 and I respect that and I don't care about all those stupid features as long as the game has a great story and nostalgia I'm gonna get mines from gog
Even though there's similarities to mighty no9 I think how IGA went about making bloodstained mattered more! He focused on finishing what was in front of him and seemed to do it with a more genuine passion.
Bloodstained's management was leaps and bounds better than Mighty No. 9's management. For starters: no Tina.
I remember the Kickstarter comments raking Angel-Corlux/Roberto over hot coals though. The team sounded like they had a lot of tricky political BS to navigate between retailers and the general release of the game.
also: NO DEEP SILVER
@@CyberDragon10K how can it be avoided. Even at my job the political PC bullshit is showing up at my job.
@@GiordanDiodato cannot be said hard enough
Note about "big kickstarters": there is a game called Hex Heros," featuring several indie heros and even Arin, Danny, and Ross from Game Grumps. This game was intended to launch on the wii u, then possibly the switch in 2017. Since then, absolutle silence.
Edit: Since my original post of this, they have made a update video for June and the developers will attempt to keep constant updates for every month. However, this is still doesn't excuse how long they remained silent on the project.
Easy difference between MN9 and RotN. One is good the other is MN9.
It's out now, it's on the level of Aria of Sorrow, which is basically the highest a Metroidvania can be and oh god, I didn't know how much I missed the flair and style that Iga puts in his games.
AoS? highest? LOL
Bloodstained is like Symphony of the Night fused with Order of Ecclesia. I've been greatly enjoying it so far.
13:56 "Doom has 10 ports"
Yeah, multiple this by 10 and then we come closer to the real number
Probably mean official ports, not fan-made ones. that's likely in the thousands. Hell, I'm aware of fan-made ports for old color iPods.
You mean multiply?
It's like a rule 34 variant of sorts: if it exists, someone has probably ported Doom to it.
Dos, linux, mac, windows, snes, gba, ps1, saturn, jaguar, 32x, xbox, xbox360, ps3 and those are the official ports that I can think right now without google, 10 ports even by official ports standard is way too low
TI84, TI89, a smart fridge, probably available as homebrew on just about any console that's ever been hacked.
I've been hearing good things about it so far.
also the possible reason why use 2.5D is because 2D sprites are WAY more expensive to make compared to 3D models nowadays.
High quality 2d sprites scale more in development the bigger the game is. There more enemies, angles, number of frames and details.
@@MDKcde granted it kinda depends. Hand drawn HD 2D sprites (or "smoothed out graphics"/ "Mobile game 2D" as nostalgia-filled retro gamers (I like calling those kind of people retrotards) call them) are far more expensive to make compared to 2D 8-bit/16-bit pixel-based sprites.
I would disagree about 2D being costly , costs are always relative to the project and what the engine is and their overall game design and technology used.
@@retrofraction perhaps, but imagine hand drawing 720-1080p 2D images.
@@GiordanDiodato Again its all relative. With tablets that is not going to be terrible and with vector art 8k is not untouchable.
Is Igarashi the only ‘popular Japanese dev’ that managed to safely make a good game out of Kickstarter? Respect, man.
Yu Suzuki isn't done Shenmue 3, ya know.
Inafune isn't a developer.
@@ImJust1Joe even though he was a designer in Megaman X
@@GiordanDiodato Welp, it came out and Shenmue 3 bites hard.
So Iga is the grand winner of the Kickstarter conundrum.
14:46 - "Vintage-vania"? Personally, I prefer the term; *_Classicvania._*
MagicMaster667 I’ve seen Classicvania used in many places but Derek is the only one I’ve seen who insists on using Vintagevania.
Kind of like how IGA and co. tried pushing Igavania instead of Metroidvania?
IGAvanias are Castlevania games developed by Igarashi and his team. Metroidvanias are the games inspired by/following up on Metroid and SotN, including IGAvanias.
CyberDragon10K Igavania is fine since it intends to only cover the Castlevanias made by Iga. Metroidvania is a much broader term that includes a whole bunch of games from other developers.
@@CyberDragon10K Crazy guess here, but I think "metroid" might be a trademark owned by a different company, in which case it would make sense to avoid using the word in a promotional trailer
2.5D's very useful for tweaking aspects of the game.
Adjusting animation, adding alternate cosmetics, et cetera, is somewhat simpler than having to redraw individual frames with pixel art. Especially the more detailed the pixel art.
Arc System Works with Guilty Gear and Dragon Ball FighterZ uses the method for those, and stylistic reasons.
not to mention it's a lot cheaper compared to HD 2D sprites.
One of the things that should have been delayed was this video. It ended on a somber, downer note when a mere 24 hours after the video went live, cries of Hallelujah were raining down from the heavens. Seriously, if there was ever a time to bring back the Happy Nerd, if only for one video, this would be it.
...now if I can just figure out how in activate Cheat Codes without having to start a new game...
Was bloodstained a disappointment? Well, let me check for a sec
*plays bloodstained ritual of the night*
Nope.
Iyo
Looks like it was less of a corporate shackle, and more of keeping a chicken from running around without a head.
Iga saved large crowdfunded games
Weren't Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity also crowd-funded and considered a success?
Also, Them's Fightin' Herds almost worked out before personal issues got in the way of development, forcing the team to go Early Access.
@@sofija1996 Personal issues? So there's more than just Hasbro coming on their ass?
@@sofija1996 and let's not forget Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero.
Divinity Original Sin
@@sofija1996 There are actually many great kickstarter games. The video even shows a few of them at the bottom. The problem is that people remember the bad ones far more than the good ones, and the reputable devs who achieve success from crowdfunding don't need it again.
It's kind of the same story as early access. Shitty devs making it a crapshoot have damaged the public's trust even when some of the best games each year come out of it.
I think the biggest difference between Igarashi and Inafune is that Iga has been a producer for decades whereas Inafune was more of an artist. Iga probably would've stayed had it not been for Lords of Shadow, Konami's mismanagement, and his ideas being squandered. I'm so excited that Bloodstained is finally out. So far, the game is great, so I feel like, despite several bad moments in the KS, its overall worth it.
Apparently it's been good? I think Jim Sterling gave it his seal of approval
He did and basically wanted to give it a 10 out of 10. I don't think I've heard Jim Sterling be so giddy about a game.. ever
I dunno, he also gave Breath of the Wild, one of the best Zelda games ever, a 7/10
@@GiordanDiodato Sounds like a fitting score to me.
@@Ponaru then you need to finish grammar school.
@@OniLordMiki Yeah that makes total sense.
Bloodstained : a prom night to remember
Weird to think Bloodstained is a legitimate contender for my personal game of the year, already 100%ed it twice n started my 3rd playthrough this morning!
How did u beat it twice so fast? U have no life
@@redcrimson1028 Sorry ;n;
But naw, I've just had a lot of time in between graduation and getting a call back for my job I'm starting soon!
Also I finished that 3rd playthrough hehehe
@@LukaMusics i knew it, when u said school i knew you were young. When you're young with no responsibilities you can play video games all day without a care in the world. I remember when i was young i did the same thing. I could beat a game in a weekend. Now that i'm 37 it take me up to a whole year to beat a game especially when you have responsibilities, taking care of my family, working and my job and on top of that my body doesnt allow me to sit in front of the tv for more than 3hrs. You'd be surprise how siting upright also drains you. Dont get old is my advice to you.
Lastly bloodstained is a masterpiece of a game it is huge and can be very hard the farther you get. The game also doesnt tell you where to go and i got lost a lot several times. The pacing is also weird how they dont give you "Invert" until almost at the end of the game which clearly is an item you need in the 1st half of the game. The game also gave you the double jump late as well and i still havent gotten the ingredient needed to enhance my jump for a 3rd time. It must be a great game if you are on your 3rd playthrough? Bloodstained is a masterpiece and keeps me playing, i havent played a game this generation that kept me playing for hours straight with the exception being the first division game.
Well it must be game of the year if you're on your third playthrough
u know it's funny inti created mega man zero and mighty #9
edit: inti made the spin off to mighty #9
and they also made mega man 9 and 10
And Mega Man 9, which we all know is fantastic!
IntiCreates makes the best Megaman games don't @ me
Inti Creates didn't make mighty number 9. They created the mighty no 9 spinoffs mighty gunvolt and mighty gunvolt Burst, which are actually really good.
what? lol no, they didnt cretae mighty no.9 but the spinoff ,yeah.
@@krimsonkatt thank you, i redited it
With Bloodstained becoming the most successful spiritual successor by a legacy dev, I'm hoping that Shenmue 3 despite the Epic Game Store controversy is the game that backers (like myself) are expecting it to be.
I bet Konami regrets their decision now that the Netflix series and this game is doing well.
Nah, they're too dumb for that.
they're rereleasing Castlevania Bloodlines for the first time ever, so...
They got that panchinko money from the gambling addicts. They couldn't care less.
''Kicked off by Mighty No. 9'' Nah, Double Fine was the explosion of classic revivals on KS. And we got a great game from that.
Derek must have just forgot the hype surrounding Broken Age, at the time it was the most backed project on Kickstarter.
That "Old to New" trailer is a big reason I purchased the game not long ago.
I dont even usually play these type of games(I did grab Dead Cells which was positive imo) even though Im old enough to have done so many, many years ago...they never really appealed to me.
But that trailer, and how FREAKIN AWESOME the game looked in it made me want to try it.
I ADORE THIS GAME AND NOW WANT MORE!!!!
The art style and look of the world put me in awe many times when playing and the gameplay "Just feels right".
That guy has my allegiance from this point on....I will back another game that is his bread and butter, all he has to do is ask....Graet guy, great game! 😀
0:30 you forgot a hat in time lol
Kind of hilarious that Mighty Number 9 was seen as a savior from poor corporate influence, with no one realizing until later that Kenji himself was a poor corporate influence.
Skip to 02:16 to get to Past Mortem proper.
Thank you
@@_zoinks2554 You're welcome.
Everyone is kinda forgetting one of the few incredibly successful Kickstarter retro revivals that actually ended well: A Hat in Time. It was set to be an early 3D Platformer revival, much similar to something like Yooka-Laylee, but it wasn't based on any single idea or concept from that time frame, different to Yooka-Laylee which tried being a modern Banjo-Kazooie. A Hat in Time tried being similar to those original 3D Platformers while adding it's own completely new concepts, like the hat switching mechanic or the large variety of characters. It had a very lofty goal and fulfilled it, even going beyond the Kickstarter by porting it to the Switch, something that Gears for Breakfast, the developers, had once said was impossible. The two DLC's released for the game were incredible, each one having a completely new world and an extra mode tacked on. The first DLC, Seal the Deal, had a fairly short new world, but also introduced the Death Wish mode which remixes pretty much all the levels in the game and makes them extremely more difficult, while giving a promise of new cosmetics if you're up to scuff to finish the mode in it's entirety. The second DLC, the Nyakuza Metro, had a vast new open world chapter along with featuring online multiplayer where you could do anything in the game with up to 50 people all at once with the Online Party mode. Disappointingly, the Online Party mode is unavailable in the Switch port and they're still working towards porting the DLC to Xbox One and PS4, but it is still an incredible game despite which platform you use. The game recently had it's 3rd anniversary since release, so now's as good a time as ever to jump in. Heck, Gears for Breakfast have been putting out some open job applications recently so it looks like we might possibly be getting more of A Hat in Time in the distant future.
Just wanna say “Blood, Sweat and Pixels” Its a great book
I think the definitive distinction here is that, when they came up short and overbudget, Comcept said "Well, it's better than nothing," and ArtPlay said "We need to bring in a heavy hitter and make this right." So that last delay when they decided to bring on WayForward made all the difference. And in the end, Bloodstained will be remembered as a good game, possibly the start of a good series, and Mighty No 9 will forever be a joke.
"went out the window like an anime fan on prom night" MAN that's a dark joke lol
I just finished Bloodstained and it really is a pleasant relief knowing it didn't fall into the same pitfalls MN9 did and managed to give the fans exactly what they wanted with top notch quality. I seriously am hoping the success of both Curse Of The Moon and Ritual Of The Night means we got a guarantee for a Bloodstained franchise on our hands.
In any case, I'm eagerly awaiting the Zangetsu DLC.
I've been playing "Ritual of the Night" on my Steam account, and I honestly love the hell out of it. It's like "Order of Ecclesia" on steroids in the best possible way. However, I will say that I find Miriam more likable as a protagonist compared to Shanoa, and I really like Shanoa!
Gotta love Miriam getting annoyed by Benjamin.
That work on the lighting was worth it. Also, being as David Hayter VOICES the second playable character I feel like that was always gonna happen.
Can we get a video on Mighty No. 9 still not having the 3DS/Vita versions released?
There doesn't seem to be much more to that story.
As an avid Kickstarter who is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SATISFIED with everything I have ever backed, I find it frustrating when people keep saying that Kickstarter is “problematic” and rife with problems. It’s not. Just because some idiots back projects they never should have backed, or have unreasonable expectations about what a project should look like, his does not mean that Kickstarter has problems.
Met Igarashi-san like 2 years ago during a convention ( < see picture) and I asked him something along the lines of "MN9 was a fuck up, what do you think happened during development, and how would you avoid the same fate with Bloodstained". He laughed at the mention of MN9 and said something to the effect of: "I don't know what happened with MN9's development specifically, but all I can say is that we will do the best that we can to release a product that will please fans."
Lo and behold, 2 years later and Bloodstained is fucking dope.
EDIT: 3 years ago rather.
yeah more past mortem!
Dust Off The Relic thank you for watching them! We got more past mortem coming up!
How many times must I tell you that I most certainly will NOT stop skeletons from fighting?! I LIKE watching skeletons fight! Particularly if they are brothers arguing over puns and socks!
Would have liked that vita port but i just transfered my order to switch, i also got the ps4 version and a newly repaired console so im good ether way!
Thankfully, Bloodstained turned out quite nicely!
Heeey, I really liked Yooka-Laylee!
as somebody who watched bloodstains Kickstarter all the way from beginning to end I admire what they were able to do and how involved they were an answering fan feedback and the best part of it all was the fan art submissions, seen those every single update made me smile and I'm not even really that big of a Castlevania fan
I have one thing to say about needing a company behind you. It's easy to say you want to do something and you can be as creative and have a team of highly-trained specialists but the reason you need a company could literally be at your back is to make you make the best game possible within a realistic time frame and budget which is something Kickstarter as you saying the video is a problem for because of stretch goals and unrealistic and unchecked expectations. So people can complain about how companies do this that and the other thing that ultimately harm its employees but at the same time you need that because unchecked ambitions leads to lawsuits and your own employees also possibly suing you.
Yooka Laylee wasn't perfect, for sure, but as someone who loves collectathons there just aren't many alternatives these days.
Derek Haines - the new sequel looks really good however.
it was really polarizing, though.
A Hat In Time says otherwise.
The trouble (at least for me) was that the whole thing felt a bit clunky. I played the demo and the controls were a bit slow with the slam jump being a bit inaccurate, it wasn’t terrible but it like they just looked and the first Banjo game and said “that’s good enough.
I've played the toybox demo too, and... yeah, you're right. Controls were super clunky and slow there (and for the PS4, it chugged like hell). But, the full game was a different beast entirely, being much smoother to control, much more accurate, and the gameplay moved at a decent pace while running at a solid framerate.
Ok, yeah, the full game had a few issues (some camera problems, some of the transformation minigames were annoying, and one stage feels kinda... meh), but I thought it was quite the well done revival of the Banjo style platformer. They at least patched the camera so it had a completely different way to control it which fixed some of the stickiness of the original camera, and they've improved on the transformation minigames. I doubt it's a terribly expensive game these days, so I could probably recommend picking it up to check it out now.
I find it shocking that Shovel Knight is the only kickstarter game that was so successful after all these years, compared to these long time co creators who left their companies and made their not Megaman/Banjo/Castlevania game and over exaggerated their dream games. (Although Bloodstained is far better than the other 2)
Shovel Knight only came on Wii U and 3DS, then worked its way up to PS4 and Xbone with exclusive rival battles from that system, amiibos that have the best functionality, made it into a ton of guest appearances in games and made it into Smash Bros. What an incredible underdog story.
Shovel Knight also released for Windows originally, and was ported to OSX and LInux the same year in September.
Personally speaking, I am not a fan of playing a clone of a beloved series as to me it's not the same thing regardless if they have the same developers. The lore, story and characters will be different as will the game play.
Also speaking of Mighty No.9 as of writing they have yet to fulfill their promise of releasing the 3DS and Vita port despite the fact that they never officially cancelled it. So in theory someone could take them to court over failing to fulfill their promise.
SamuraiDon
I don’t think they can, due to small print essentially saying that it’s open to changes without warning and there’s nothing that can be done there.
SamuraiDon i mean good luck convincing CONami to release a new Castlevania game.
As far as im concerned Bloodstained is a spiritual successor not a clone.
I was originally so disappointed when they first revealed the ingame graphics. I thought the concept art (HD illustration artwork) would actually represent what they were aiming for. And as you're talking about in this video, since the games were always 2D art and that has been such an important part of the franchise, it's weird they didn't grab this opportunity to create the first HD metroidvania game at console level.
Ben "It's better than nothing" Judd
I just got an ad for Bloodstained before this video started. LOL
Ports are a trap for a lot of indie devs. Many engines pitch that you can just port it to any supported platform but it also takes optimization and cert. Cert by itself can cost 40k USD just to submit a version to a platform holder. Then months of optimization. KS campaign often take some pittance amount like 25k for a extra platform when real costs are around 300k+ in labour and cert costs each.
00:19 I get Mighty No.9 and Ouya but... Yooka - Laylee? That game isn't bad it's polarizing. I didn't played it myself but people either love it or hate it.
That's the big thing. It is 100% a mixed bag. For me, I liked it...until I got near the endgame. Then, having to collect those last few pagies to get to the final boss made me release how empty the world really is. It's still a good game, but it definitely needed a bit more polish to really live up to its legacy.
With regard to the poll about DLC you completely left out the fact that it was not a backer poll. It was done one the bloodstained discord and was completely open to the public. Also many of the decisions that were made based upon “backer feedback” were only made based off of PC backers, as they did not offer demos/betas on any other platforms claiming it could not be done, to which it was pointed out to them that The skullgirls team did it with their follow up, Indivisible. A lot of the things that rubbed salt deeper into backer wounds was how disingenuous and sometimes dishonest the publisher was to backers. Question505/Angel Corlux, the 505 studios representative who dealt with the Kickstarter community rarely had anything to respond with corporate double speak answers and ridiculous “value charts” to justify things like why backers paid more than retail buyers and were getting less. His claim that the backer exclusive sleeve was worth $10 was absurd when it likely cost pennies to produce. Also the fact that retail was offered the steel case but backers were told they could try to buy one of only 800 available to 64000 backers was upsetting to say the least
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Not a single soul:
"Like An Anime Fan On Prom Night."
I finally finished the main campaign last night, and I gotta say, this game went above and beyond. If anything, it's so overloaded with content and things to do that you almost can't wrap your head around it at first. First half of your first playthrough is just discovery, seeing what Easter eggs they included for long-time "Castlevania" fans, messing around with weird shit you can do like playing the piano or changing your haircut.
But then we get to the final boss, and I gotta say, it's one of the best IGA has ever made. Frenetic, challenging, yeah potions and fairie elixir help, but this is all down to your skill. It made for such a rewarding experience.
One of your Patrons is named Alan Ricks, which is an alias I would sign things with when I didn't wan't my real name on something. Basically, he is my Rusty Shackleford.
Just thought it was interesting.
Pocket sand! Sha-sha!
Completed game yesterday 100%. Never played any Castelvania game before. So yeah great game.
Switch version why are you so close to SMM2? I don't have that much mooooney lol.
Sell your kidneys
"out the window like an anime fan on prom night." That's some gallows humor right there
Great job
I feel like stretch goals for kickstarters should be more intertwine with the actual product. And is realistic to the type of game you are making.
co-op
have a character named after you
Beta-Acess / early build access .
post production content
having bunch of physical doo dadz just makes things a mess. I know a friend who backed the merch stretch goal for Yooka and got the wrong bloody size. And thats just a for a shirt.
I'm thirteen hours in and in heaven. As a backer, this game did not disappoint, four years waiting and it's exactly what I wanted from an IGAvania.
Aria of Sorrow's been my favorite Castlevania game for almost a decade....It might've be bested.
Now I have to buy it, Aria of Sorrow is also my favorite.
@@landoncore92 It has that constant rewarding like Aria does and then some because of the crafting elements.
So even if you get repeat shards (souls), they'll either boost that soul's power or you can sell them.
The weapons and items are what really boosts the fun of this game!
There are many awesome tricky ones with unique properties and special moves.
I am a bit OP early on, but with the additional difficulties, and abilities, I'm predicting you can really change up the gameplay on replays. With magic only builds, gun focused builds, et cetera.
@@JohnnyBurnes I'm super stoked on it hahaha
There is a lot of thinking into all the game mechanics just like Aria, so I might agree. Even seemingly useless items can be very helpful.
being an exclusively pc gamer, i didnt know the ending as the story unfold and any similarities to mighty no 9 made this whole thing sound like a disaster waiting to happen. Especially when they had 4 different developers.
Awesome work Igarashi! Totally heroic effort to make his dreams come true and im so happy for him after all the shit he went through.
Bloodstained has been killing it ever since launch, and managed to do what no one expected.... bring the same style of gameplay that we all loved from the Castlevania series, while injecting its own personality into it to stand truly apart from the game it was inspired by.
Naturally, you're going to find a lot of the same beats as with other Kickstarter projects, but Koji Igarashi and his team definitely deserve all the praise for steering a project that could have easily been a dumpsterfire into a well-oiled, well-disciplined, powerhouse of a game that fans and newcomers absolutely love!
The switch port is only an extra week after release. So it's not a big loss.
Plus, the Switch version is getting the DLC before the other consoles.
Switch sucks, so it wouldn't have been a loss at all if it was never released.
@@901aerol Ok good for you. We'll be over here not caring.
Yeah Derek made it sound like the “it was delayed” was for months but it’s just one week.
Metacritic has the game at 9.1-9.2 for User Scores, Steam version is sitting at a comfortable 94% positive rating (it actually peaked at 95%). Hopefully the game will sell enough copies that there could possibly be a sequel.
I had faith my dark lord would triumph where the other heathens would fail, and playing through the game right now I can see my faith has been well rewarded.
Seriously though I was fairly confident Bloodstained would be good, because Igarashi has always been more down to earth. The guy legitimately cares about this genre, and getting it right. The guy talks like a craftsman and a developer, rather than a marketer or businessman. I actually somewhat disagree with the notion that it's story resembled Might no 9's, because ever since the Bloodstained campaign began it's all been about the game, and about improving it, whereas Inafune was going to Anime Expo pushing an animated series, a sequel, and just an entire franchise before people had even had a chance to judge the first game. The warning flags were just everywhere right off the bat.
Bloodstained by comparison handled its backing with relative humility, added realistic incentives and goals, and kept people up to date with both the progress, and setbacks of the games' progress. It was a passion project and has never tried to make itself seem like anything but that.
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DUDE! Me too
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I've played Bloodstained right now. And enjoyed it every second with the 1.04 update
There's a learning curve for crowdfunded games. Most of these game developers are not publishers, accountants, businessmen... A LOT of different skills are required to make a game. I think most realized that once they set out in the open to try and make their own games. A pile of money and a great concept just isn't enough to get a good product out. I think these will get better over time, like we're starting to see.
Backers issue with the Iga's backpack DLC isn't that other people have the option to buy it, it's that we were pressured into buying during KS by fear of missing out. That in itself is annoying, but forgivable, as at least I support it being available to everybody.
But the important part is that of the pricing. Buying the game on release and buying the DLCis a better deal in every way financially, when compared to backing.
That's the part that has pissed many people off.
Agreed. And the dismissive responses by the publisher only made things worse.
Backer for both Mighty No 9 and Bloodstained, and I'm fairly certain team Iga learned from Mighty No 9's mistakes. Proper communication with backers and didn't treat them like dirt, a healthy community that they actually listened to, and most importantly a quality game. Just so happy that the project ran so smoothly and the final product turned out so well.
Still waiting for my copy, really hoping it'll arrive by Monday