Unique indeed. Let's cripple a model 3 performance with more drag on : front bumper, spoiler, diffuser, side skirts, side mirrors and less optimal rimms. Then state this represents the performance of the Model 3 performance towards its 2 years newer direct comparison and state that the BMW is faster. While knowing every M3P does a 11.8 seconds quarter mile.... This is rubbish. The only reason why this optical 'tuned' car is used is because of AMT getting some exposure (which they had to pay for no doubt). This is not journalism (it's entertainment) and some viewers will now wrongly think they will beat any model 3 (including the P) if they buy this BMW 🤣
@@Maarten_vd I’m kinda curious to how much all that drag effects the teslas top end cause it seems like that’s where the BMW preforms better despite being 400Kg heavier. On top of that if they end up making an i4m I would want to see how that matches up to a model 3p and maybe even the model S
honestly, ive just picked up a used model 3 performance, absolutely shocking that people are allowed to just own and run these on the road but i absolutely get it now. what a blast, glad i didn't go for the long range because i totally love the speed in thing.
@@D4TAMOSH I’m 23 and was going in the Air Force for 4 years so when I’m done i was hoping to buy a used one possibly of this year or two years prior to 2027. I was considering getting a performance but LR with acceleration boost might not be so bad. Just to eliminate the charging issue and have that extended range
@@theeternalnightmare2630 probably wait to get a tesla, or go with a different EV. tesla honsetly worries me a lot, especially after having removes parking sensors from their latest cars and substituting them with a camera-based solution, which doesn't even appear to be capable of detecting depth since it uses one camera. removing vital features like that is absolutely crazy, kinda wish i had gotten the ioniq 6, even if my M3P is a ton of fun.
@Yvon Q. not sure if i'd consider them overpriced, especially since i really dont factor in the self-driving packages into price or value. i think the model 3 is pretty competitive in price, espeically when compared to the base and long-range models, but i'd rather go with a more reputable car maker instead of one that will remove basic features and replace them with much worse solutions.
Well they can't use their indicators but they sure know how to use their annoying rear fog lights. You'd swear they font know where the proper switches are🤔🤔
what are you talking about? 2022 BMW i4 M50 Experience performance like never before. The BMW i4 M50 combines "all-electric" power and efficiency with the detailed design and expert engineering of BMW M - the first vehicle of its kind in BMW's history.
I still remember that factory specs Model 3 performance completed 1/4 mile in 11.7s in previous carwow drag races. I am not sure that this 12s score was caused by the environment or the modification, so it is hard to say that i4 can beat tesla in drag race. Anyway, I think the weight difference can definitely show the gap between the two makers.
Totally agree. So the show is just a show. They can actually setup whatever result they want. Even Carwow themselves drove Model 3 Performance for 11.7s with 1/4 mile in their own previous test. Now it became 12s in this race. Well….
I just love how they are not afraid to act childish and just being themselves. It's part of the recipe for Matt's success I believe. Happy new year Matt and Carwow! Thank you for all the great content!
You can see there’s only 134 miles of range on the i4 dash before the drag race. It would be nice to have the EV drag races with as close to full charge as possible
@@carlosbrazao6039 and the range is extremely exaggerated on them too. Ill take the bmw even with limitations and a proper interior over that cheaper than a camry tesla interior with laughable ride
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The Tesla 3 long range (non performance) does 12.0. Boost acceleration option gets 11.7/8. Perf model is 11.5. You'll need at least 80% charge and at least 70 F outside.
As a Tesla S owner and an ex-BMW owner, I found that the BMW certainly has better car body built. I can clearly hear my husband’s phone conversations inside the Teslas while I stand outside of the car with everything closed. And I have to turn down the music’s volume when I drive on city’s road. I never had acoustical problems when I drove my my old BMW. I’m already on the waitlist of the i4.
BMWs are nice when new, but get a lot crappier as they get older. Repairs are ridiculously expensive and common. As they say, if you can't afford a new BMW, you definitely can't afford a used BMW. Teslas go forever.
Tesla is not much better. We’ve got the Tesla for 4 years already and we had to send it to fix no less than 10 times already and it’s at least $2000 (problems with head light, computer shut down when driving, HVAC, etc). Glad that we’ve got extended warranty. I finally got my i4 8 months ago and still no problem yet but we’ve got extended warranty also (7 years total)…just in case. My husband is driving the Tesla and I’m driving the i4 now but my husband said he enjoys to drive my i4 more because it’s better handling and feels more driving a real car. Also the chairs are more comfy.
@@phoebetsau9635 I know heaps of people with Model 3s. They are everywhere now. Model Y best selling car in the world. None of the people I know have problems. Mercedes and BMW are junk, they really are.
@@wpb1395 you know why the 3 & Y is everywhere? Because they keep doing price reduction and plus the additional tax credit from government. You actually can get a 3 for under 50K after tax credit. Y slightly higher. Tesla is a nice computer (if you want to drive a computer out the street) and I do agree how the BMW advertised, they are Ultimate Driving Machines (if you do want to drive an EV feel like driving a real car). We own both so just to express our honest experience with both. This is all about personal preference tho. Why are you being so offensive?
@@phoebetsau9635 Not being offensive. I just think the German cars are junk. Other car manufacturers know they have to go electric but they are losing hand over fist in the conversion. Tesla has amazing vertical integration in their factories and still make a very health profit margin. BTW, I've owned an M135i and I think a Model 3 feels better on the road in terms of poise and handling.
Or alternatively if you like absolute quiet in your car, they could employ BOSE noise cancellation and mitigate road and wind noise altogether so the only sounds in your car come from your infotainment system or the sound of you chomping through a greggs sausage roll on the M40
@@TheComputec the technology is there for good noise cancelling but i thing it will make you feel very strange, something as akin to a "sensory deprivation tank" it will be surely not for the "faint of hearth" :)
@@dark1tdr Oh I totally agree that "complete silence" is horrible. I have spent time in high security government data centres with walls specifically designed to absorb all sounds and it was very jarring. So much so that we were encouraged to only spend limited amounts of time in the room without a break, but sound cancellation technology could be implemented to remove all "UNWELCOME" noise like tyre rumble and wind noise and complimentary technology utilised to enhance driver notifications for useful stimulus like tyre squeal (when the tyres are operating at their limit) etc. The system could also translate the sound of emergency vehicles approaching from front or rear and convert that to a warning sound AND more importantly a visual indicator for when it is dark, raining and you have your sound system cranked up. How many times have we seen oblivious drivers obstructing a fire engine or Ambulance because they simply hadn't noticed them for various reasons. I only want distractions that are important and useful. I'm sure there is some middle ground and with a little R&D i'm sure it would be possible to soundproof a car more effectively with technology than by just stuffing 150KG of wadding into the voids and the bulkheads
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@@damianscott71 well, I prefer a better car if you are not driving more than 200 km per day... in my case, maybe I use the car to drive more than 400 km one time per year... so yeah, I would go with i4 always
If you had to drive either car every day, anyone who's sat in and have driven both are taking the BMW. It's not even close, the BMW is a million times better to sit and drive/ride in than a 3/Y.
Wow love that video! Especially because I'm a BMW fanboy since my young age, and because the Tesla 3/Y were the only cars that gave me the "almost" same feeling than a BMW when driving. As a fanboy I love the i4 winning some races, but it's good to see that your drag race confirms what I thought about the Tesla !
Dude this isnt even close to a bmw M series. If u have never experienced a BMW M car then ur opinion on BMWs driving experience is worthless in my eyes. BMW M cars wipe the floor in every category over tesla.
Dude I experienced several BMW M cars and got my opinions. But you're not the center of everything, my comment was not intended to you, I really don't care about what your think about my comment.
@@smoitry why reply at all then... anyways if u read ur comment u pretty much said just cuz tesla kept up with the BMW is why it confirmed ur opinion on tesla feeling the same as ur BMWs. I'm saying just cuz it kept up doesn't make it the same. Speed isn't everything. U can get carbon fiber bucket seats, racing steering wheel,HUD,higher grade materials,etc.. bmw makes it feel like a luxury racing car. Also handles and turns way better. Going from tesla to bmw is like going from bmw to a porsche
@@AndreDargan forget to take your meds today? I have owned over five different bmw’s..have two bmw’s and Tesla model 3 performance in the driveway right now. I’m not brand loyal fanboy like you
Yeah, very odd that it's a slower result even when compared with other drag races done by CW. Would be good to see battery utilisation and and capacity at the end of all that.
100%. why drive a modified Model 3 but standard BMW?? Additionally we all know battery charge levels matter, so why was battery charge levels not shown? Very disappointing Carwow. How much is BMW paying you for that of race?
Tesla fanboys be like ooheenn ooheenn... Just for fucks sake. The ealier model 3 runs were done in British summers (perfect temp range for electric cars). The BMW, inline with other german brands, did better than their claim unlike American cars which always underperform compared to the claims. As for aero, the BMW i4 is 400KG (almost 900lbs) heavier for gods sake. Could it be possible that battery thermal management on BMW better than Tesla? Could it be that Tesla had a battery degradation issue? This is the first test but its surely not going to be the last. Carwow does not own these cars, they depend on other sources to get their hands on one for testing. They cant always get their hands on the spec that they want. And whats up with the childish claims of BMW paying money to car wow? You tesla guys are immature imbeciles.
What happened with this model 3? Every other test I’ve seen from you guys had it at like 11.6-11.7s but this was all the way at 12s. Did the mods the owner put in end up slowing it down?
This channel has never run an 11.5. the fastest they have ever done is 11.7. Outside of this channel, there are a lot of M3P running 11.5 and even 11.4. Carwow is shady with the times they get for the Tesla.
Tesla P3D looks like I was thinking of other channels, but yes most I’ve seen from here were around the 11.7s mark. This one was pretty significantly slower than any I’ve ever seen from them, and it’s wasn’t even raining or bad weather like it’s been in previous tests
It will be even slower soon, in Europe anyway, new rules stating any new car sold from 2022 will have to be fitted with a speed limiter! Thin end of the wedge, enjoy cars while they are still enjoyable lol
I guess it would have been a boring video if Tesla won all the races again knowing what we all know which is that the Model 3P does the 1/4 mile reliably in 11.5-11.6s all day unless your state of charge is really low. Probably ran the SOC down low so the BMW could win some of the matchups. This is clearly an entertainment channel and not a scientific comparison.
I keep saying in the comments that electric car drag races are useless without showing the SOC. Carwow refuses to listen and it’s an obvious bias. Hoping they start to read comments like yours and start doing the right thing for these vids.
They implemented a soundtrack which doesn't really try to copy that of an I6 engine, but basically captures the essence if what makes the I6 sound so good. It's hard to describe, but it sounds really nice while still different than an ICE.
@@MikkoRantalainen 400 kg heavier…BMW doesn’t have worse brakes, if they had the same brakes but one was 400kg heavier the gap would have been even bigger.
@@AOTanoos22 Yeah, obviously higher mass requires more braking power. However, even modern trucks have very good brakes even with 40 ton loads: th-cam.com/video/ridS396W2BY/w-d-xo.html I meant that I was surprised that BMW released a product which has such a long braking distance. Obviously it could be using the exact same rotors and pads as Tesla and we would see the result shown in this video. In that case, the brake hardware would be identical but the actual implementation for BMW would be worse.
I love the fact that braking was done at 100mph (instead of 70!), but it's a bit of flaw since you need less than 0.1s difference in the reaction time for that type of distance. You should measure the braking distance electronically (not just white line on the ground). Do it 3 times at different Locations on the track to account for variations on the GPS as well. BMW has the sport brakes, but yeah 400kg is 5 people man! Lol thanks Matt!!!!
That i4 is fast but I'm surprised the model 3 was slower! Would've been good to mention that you achieved an 11.7 1/4 in damp conditions with a stock M3P earlier.
@@NS416 Nope, this is the slowest M3P I’ve seen recorded. Plenty of “real world results” showing 11.4 - 11.7 in the 1/4 mile. I think it’s that body kit.
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After 100,mph the BMW is just destroying the Tesla even with the weight which is impressive . Guessing typical bmw and the stated power numbers are probably lesser than the actual power output.
In the context of cars of similar size, weight not a big issue as speed climbs. Drag and rolling resistance become dominant where peak power matters. Tesla peak power of 490hp is delivered around 50/60mph I think where its power starts dropping thereafter with field weakening. No idea what power curve against speed is like in BMW but wouldn't be surprised if they've gone for more sustained power at higher autotobahn speeds like Matt said rather than BMW necessarily being conservative about its peak power.
Great video, I think it captures well how the BMW has a nice top-end acceleration and regardless of 1/4 mile times in the video and appears that under the same test environment, the BMW will eventually pull ahead. So if a Tesla ran quicker a seperate video, that would tell me that under the same environment side-by-side, the i4 would still be the quicker of the two. Did anyone notice a quick shot of the BMW's gauge? It showed 56% SoC, and if you zoom in on a few shots, showed 134miles of range remaining. at "100%' SoC, looks like the range would have been 240miles, or higher considering they were basically accelerating a few times and this particular test wasn't to maximize range.
That Tesla has some rather crappy body kit, that creates significant drag at high speed. In all other videos (including Carwow) standard M3P runs 11.7s, sometimes 11.5s Never 12s. This video is just not representative of true performance which is a shame by Carwow. It's like Mat somehow forgot about that Tesla's body kit when he commented BMW is better at high speed. It's just not.
@@Tom_Mroz What data do you have to support the BMW not being quicker at higher speeds? Everything I've read in regards to the powerband and simulators show the M50 having superior top end acceleartion with higher 1/4 mile trap speeds (MotorMatchUp is a good resource: th-cam.com/video/mqdoiAILi-g/w-d-xo.html) to the Model 3 Performance. Additionally, let's say you raise the Model 3's .cd of drag to .30 because of the body kit, it only raises the 1/4 mile time by .04 of a second in simulators, which are 99% accurate given how well they predict a vehicles real-world 1/4 mile times. The BMW is also handicapped with it being the 20" wheel model with wider wheels/tires too and not the skinner tired 19" wheel version, so if we want to split hairs.
@@theRappinSpree agreed, the splitting hairs is pointless because the BMW is also handicapped with its wider 20" wheel/tire package which according to BMW's press release raises the .cd of drag from .25 to .32, which likely makes more of an impact than the Tesla's aftermarket body kit in terms of .cd of drag.
Very interesting drag race. Just goes to show how far the progress of the modern EV has come. The BMW is certainly set up differently too the Tesla. Would be great to see a drag race between Aud BMW Mercedes and Tesla.
Very surprised well done BMW I did want to order one for my next car but I was told 12 months wait for factory so sacked it off, I’ll revisit next year maybe this or IX
Sure.. but in rolling race u need trap speed. Looks like BMW will be slower w higher trap speed. Tesla needs to give the M YP power to the M3p now to keep up.
@@relaxingtravel-LosAngeles BMW claims a very flat powerband for the i4. If Tesla wants to beat them, they'll likely have to implement new motors which can keep peak power like the Plaid.
@@PerformanceRaven That's hard to believe. What reason would they have for not unlocking the powerband? The Long Range and Plaid S are so much faster now that they run basically no risk of cannibalizing sales.
Haha.. you cant expect optimal runs every time...... conditions change. Only thing that is important is that the conditions are the same for both cars. As here.
Wow, who would have thought that on a different day with different tarmac different temperatures in a different car, the 1/4 mile could be 0.2 seconds different !! INCREDIBLE !!!!!!!!
@@DjNikGnashers 0.2s is actually a pretty big difference. The Model 3 is very consistent; I wouldn't chalk this up to different conditions. More likely the bodykit and changed tires/wheels is making the car slower.
@@a.banana LOL 0.2 seconds is NOTHING, how long have you been driving ? I'm 52 mate, and have been driving since I was 17, and owned many performance cars. 0.5 seconds is nothing, over a 1/4 mile, you can lose that by simply spinning a wheel by 10% more than you need to over the first metre (science states 15% wheel slip is optimum for launching). There are probably over a dozen different things which have made the 0.2 second difference from driver reaction to temperature to weather to tarmac quality to the tyre condition, etc etc etc. Do you even drive a car bro ?
@@DjNikGnashers For a car like the Model 3, a difference of 0.2s is pretty large. Usually that kind of variance is seen when Model 3 have different tire/wheel setups. The larger rim sizes tend to hurt the quarter mile times slightly, as well as grippier tires (the traction control doesn't adjust itself to take advantage of the extra grip). In this case, not only does this car have custom rims and tires, it also has a bodykit very likely adding unnecessary drag. I'd say it's more likely that the modifications made it slower.
Prices are a bit off here. The way you're stating it, it looks like the BMW is just a tad bit more expensive. I just went into their configurator and if I put everything in that the M3 Performance has at your stated price tag, I am 20k higher for the BMW at $81,975... Also looks like that M3 is modified.
I get 12.0 to 12.3 in my long range on a poor road which is odd that it's the same speed as a perf. The bmw does look nice though, once the electric infrastructure improves tesla are really going to have to up their game
@@romansenger2322 whatever they do with the Tesla, they do with the other cars. The only fare comparison is a head to head race…. Which the Tesla lost…. Baaaaaadly 😂
Im sure a lot of people will like the BMW more than the Tesla, especially due to the interior. And thats great so everybody has the choice to go electric if they want to :D
Finally someone with sense. These Tesla fan boys get heart attacks when another ev does better. They come up with hey my car charges faster or some shit.
Woah I'm shocked the BMW beat the model 3 performance, however that model 3 clearly wasn't running at its best time, these cars are capable of running 11.7 and would've been able to beat the BMW. My guess is that the kit may have been screwing with the aero, but nonetheless, great vid mat! Unique match up!
@@number1Schumacherfan Mat made other videos with a stock Model 3 performance without the kit and ran a 11.7 second time with it. Go check those out, it appears that this particular model 3 is slower...and I don't know if the BMW is capable of running an 11.5 or not, the car is stock as it should be. It certainly didn't have a crazy kit on it. But yeah, if you strip it it should be capable, same with the 3.
I agree with you Joshua. M3P should have had the BMW. The body kit, the state of charge or if this is an older model M3P would be at least one of the reasons
BMW performed really well and looks great as well, even though Joe Achilles slated it, funny that, great real world review by a proper motoring journalist thanks again Matt and car wow, not interested if a 6ft 5 person can get in the back of a coupe or if it should have M mirrors
The power difference is quite obvious. But Tesla are the ones to beat, wouldn't have thought BMW would release a car that was slower than the biggest e-competitor.
But it is not. The M3P was in this show several times and always 11.8 seconds at the quarter mile. Don't know why this model is slower, could be because of the optical 'tuning' or low SOC?
@@Maarten_vd Yes maybe this mods affect the quarter mile time but they shouldn’t affect the 0-100. Just Tesla overestating their numbers as always and BMW underestimating as always
@Maarten van Soest I wouldn't be surprised if it is drag. They have changed the aerodynamics and that rear wing looks like it will add quite a bit of drag over the standard spoiler. To quote Yianni, M3P is 11.8secs all day every day to the 1/4 mile.
I think it's because the i4 sits on a modified ICE platform, as opposed a dedicated electric platform - like the Model 3 - which would make it substantially lighter.
@@channguyen3349 the 911 is the pinnacle of automotive engineering. American automotive does not compare to German engineering. Never have, never will.
Tbh the standard 4 series x drive weighs around 1750kg as it is. Also remember the added weight of things like sound deadening material over a model 3. Then you Chuck 2 electric motors and the batteries in the place of the normal ICE drive train. To get that power and range you need a lot of batteries. If the i4 was a dedicated electric car platform like the i3 it would be much lighter
Still suprised how everyone has glossed over the curved infotainment and instrument cluster of the BMW i cars. ITts by far the best looking of any other cars out there.
Hi Mat, I do remember the Tesla could do 11.8 so could have won in the right "original" setup? It seems all the modifications done have been worsening the car?🙂
@@makabelion Tesla got a SW "upgrade" to add stability control at the end of 2021. This test may be the result of the cars now being legal!! Also Teslas turned the power off the front motor after 5 seconds. If they continue to use it for more than five seconds, they'd burn up. The front motor is of the induction type where 10-15% of the power delivered is converted to heat. If you watch the Bjorn video of him launch testing you'll see the F power parameter on the scan tool go to zero at 5 seconds after launch. The BMW has two PM motors that burn all the time. th-cam.com/video/LEWxBGYz-rA/w-d-xo.html
@@twotone3871 I could not find anything about an upgrade for the stability control? Could therefore also not find any evidence that this was needed to make them legal OR that it hurted performance in any way. Would appreciate if you could give us a source? Then your claim that Tesla is turning off the front motor because they will "burn out", again was not able to find anything about that? I mean, all motors have watercooling, you know that right? You present your "claim" as a fact by referring to an acceleration video of Bjorn. In that video you see the power of the front engine going to zero as soon as acceleration is stopped. But this is actually very normal behavior. Its more efficient to drive on one engine so as soon as accelleration stops and there is only the need to keep the speed constant so one motor will not get any power. The beauty of it is that the front induction engine does not create drag when not powered (where all other PM do when not powered) Please tell me you did not fabricate this overheating story because (and only because) you saw the Fpower go to zero and simply did not understand the reason behind it? Last thing; You mentioned that the BMW (last sentence) has two PM motors, but thats not true, they don't have permanent magnets at all. Thats the whole reason they use brushes in their motors, these are wear parts and need service where PM motors do not. Motortrend wrote an article about them, some quotes: "BMW is betting that modern materials and sealing technology will allow modern-day brushes and commutators to last for a reasonable service interval in the life of a modern EV." "And like your brake pads, the brushes and commutator generate dust and wear out, requiring periodic replacement, which are some of the reasons these are not currently used in any modern EVs or hybrids." "The biggest takeaway from this is that brushless motors are preferred over brushed because they do away with the maintenance and dust that come with brushes rubbing a wearing surface (the commutator), both of which increase the lifespan of the motor. Disadvantages are higher initial cost and more complicated motor speed controllers that typically require three Hall-effect sensors to properly measure the positioning of the stator and rotor (although some modern controllers have found clever ways to do without these sensors)."
@@Maarten_vd Hi Maarten. Thoughtful reply. Let me provide the sources... th-cam.com/video/ENFTsOsHxcs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/67Q5teFofdY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/UPxF-ih61Q8/w-d-xo.html www.evspecifications.com/en/comparison/bf332f5f Induction motors are10-14% less efficient than PM motors are that 10-15% is burned as heat - watch the F stator temp go up. BMWs I4s do have PM motors. Brushless motors have been around a very long time and pre-dates EVs. The reason why Tesla Model 3s lose in longer races is that the front motor drops out. This is why the 60mph race came in. Teslas burn the front motors for 5 secs then turn off the front motor.
The only problem that would stop me buying an Ev beside tesla is the unavailable supercharger like network and it would be somewhat problematic when it comes time for a road trip
I'm pretty sure the network will be available for non-teslas eventually. They are testing it in Netherlands already and have said the network will open for everyone in Norway this year. Similar planning is going on in Germany as well. "It’s always been our ambition to open the Supercharger network to Non-Tesla EVs, and by doing so, encourage more drivers to go electric. This move directly supports our mission to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy." www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging
Depends on where you are. In Germany (and most of Europe?), there is enough infrastructure available to everybody. That doesn't really make a difference tho, if you can charge at home. I have an EV for 1 year now, and I never used a public charger.
Happy new year to all my car wow peeps. Hoping for more splendid videos this year. Electric is cleaner, yes, but I hope they can continue making ICEs and find an alternative cleaner fuel source and let people choose what car they want rather than 'forcing' us all to drive electric.
Well, without the pressure from EVs, and let's say it, Tesla, they'd still drag their feet. BMW had a glimmer genius with the i3, really interesting concept, but then continued dragging their feet. If they ever come up with a good petrol based gas replacement, they better do it in the next few years. Kudos to Tesla, Nissan, Chevy, Renault for pioneering, to the Koreans, Ford and VAG for the second wave.
The weather (wind) could be the reason. It is hard to have the same weather condition all the time ai think. When Model 3 Performance will get 11.7, BMW should 11.6.
I am surprised at how nice the Beemer looks in that color. Not really a contest though, if you think how much better the quality in the i4 M50 is. Especially interior. 4k difference only, that's a bargain for the I4. Now put a Taycan 4S with pb+ there, should be a very close race. The Taycan has mostly done 11.7 or 11.8. And the e-tron GT, too. Though I suspect that is making more like 12.1.
My M3P does 11.7 every time not sure what’s up with this one. Carwow never ever mentions the SOC of the cars which can make a difference unfortunately 🤷🏻♂️
Happy new year from germany. First of all, I really enjoy your videos. Both cars are really great. Between these 2 cars I had to choose and I ordered the BMW. Even I had to wait much longer for it.. For me it is one of the most beautiful cars.
I was waiting for a stock Tesla Model 3 Performance against a stock BMW i4 M50 and a competent reporter to let us know what the SOC was before the electric car drag race
@@Maximilian_Ingrosso I would say it is rather the bodykit/spoiler making the tesla slower. This would also explain the difference in higher speed. Whatever it is... the 0.3sec made the Tesla losing the race
Ummm *NOT* to be a Tesla fanboy but something’s going on here. M3 Performance does a 1/4 mile in 11.6 seconds. Even on other carwow drag races it did 11.7 sec. Was the body kit M3 chosen specifically to make the BMW look good/better?
The crash pads for the high-voltage battery may not have been assembled. This can cause damage to the high-voltage battery in the event of a serious side crash and may cause a short-circuit increasing the risk of a fire. The BMW i4 vehicles affected by this recall were manufactured between 15 September and 30 November 2021. BMW recall code: 61430600 Affected models: i4.
You need to re-run this with a normal M3 Performance - I doubt that body kit reduces drag, I suspect that it adds rather a lot hence the BMW pulling away at higher speeds. The 1/4 mile is very slow for a M3P as others have stated. Lets see it run with two stock cars then we can see which accelerates fastest.
A standard Tesla Model 3 Performance should do the Race in 11.8 sec, they always do this time. Mat already proofed it too in his races. So its as fast as the Bmw , but still good Job Bmw on the acceleration on this car , because it pulled very good in the rolling race
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As a German, I will always enjoy Mat’s German accent. Happy new year everyone!
That's good to hear. I always used to think Germans were offended when he did that.
I burst out laughing every time he does it. It's hilarious 😂 😃.
Happy new year 2022, MrZotteltier.
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Ich finde es auch immer lustig zu sehen wenn irgendein nicht Muttersprachler deutsch spricht
Its races like these that make Carwow so good. Nobody really knows the outcome of a unique matchup like this and were all impressed nonetheless
Unique indeed. Let's cripple a model 3 performance with more drag on : front bumper, spoiler, diffuser, side skirts, side mirrors and less optimal rimms. Then state this represents the performance of the Model 3 performance towards its 2 years newer direct comparison and state that the BMW is faster. While knowing every M3P does a 11.8 seconds quarter mile.... This is rubbish.
The only reason why this optical 'tuned' car is used is because of AMT getting some exposure (which they had to pay for no doubt). This is not journalism (it's entertainment) and some viewers will now wrongly think they will beat any model 3 (including the P) if they buy this BMW 🤣
@@Maarten_vd sump
@@Maarten_vd I’m kinda curious to how much all that drag effects the teslas top end cause it seems like that’s where the BMW preforms better despite being 400Kg heavier. On top of that if they end up making an i4m I would want to see how that matches up to a model 3p and maybe even the model S
@@Maarten_vd happy new year 2022 Maarten.
@@combatman48 this is the best possible start for 2022 now.
BMW is doing it very well on electric cars, incredible.
except the front grill
@@ahmedareem9599 nah the grill makes it even better
@@ahmedareem9599 They actually have model called i3 eDrive 35L but its only for chinese market and it has the normal 3 series grill.
@@ilovechocolatebutihategrapes The grill is awesome.
@@SteYoung yep it stands out better and it doesn’t look tacky either. It’s aggressive and i love it.
I've been in an i4 m50 and they are rapid. Interior is really nice too!
lol 2.2 tons that is a heavy shit), it gives a lot of disadvantage in cornering), it is rapid only if you are slow yourself and cannot corner).
@@car1o it's actually has good handling because of low centre of gravity go watch the review by Joe achillies
@@jaron6324 yes I believe cause batteries are on the bottom and they are heavy, but anyway 2.2 it is not sport at all). It must be 1.8 max).
@@car1o well not everybody tracks an electric BMW might as well get an M3/4 which is lighter and more track focused
@@jaron6324 this is what I am talking about, electric is not universal like combustion m3. M3 is good both track and casual.
When Matt rocks back and forth in his seat that gives it an extra 10 horsepower!
None wattsoever.
Lol they've been known to gas out down the road. German cars figured it out 😹
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The car gains extra 10 HP for each time he does that
He is using only 1% of his powers
Happy New Year to all of you. Let's hope for an awesome 2022!
Happy new year 2022 Auditography.
Happy new year!!
Happy new year
Happy new year🎉🎉
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Honestly I never thought that the BMW was gonna beat that Tesla, but that was incredible.
That tesla is slower than usual. Normally does the 1/4 in 11.5 to 11.8 secs. All the crap added must have affected the drag. Also what's the SoC??
I'm taking the BMW all day, even despite those kidney grilles.
@@snakeeyes9246 Tesla for me. That grill is horrendous.
@@ronin7645 better a horrendous grill than horrendous paint.
@@wiesnerjulian95 you have to look at both everyday, both suck 😀
Both cars are amazing. As an enthusiast of all cars, I glad to experience all the advancement in technology we get to have in our lifetime.
honestly, ive just picked up a used model 3 performance, absolutely shocking that people are allowed to just own and run these on the road but i absolutely get it now. what a blast, glad i didn't go for the long range because i totally love the speed in thing.
@@D4TAMOSH I’m 23 and was going in the Air Force for 4 years so when I’m done i was hoping to buy a used one possibly of this year or two years prior to 2027. I was considering getting a performance but LR with acceleration boost might not be so bad. Just to eliminate the charging issue and have that extended range
@@theeternalnightmare2630 probably wait to get a tesla, or go with a different EV. tesla honsetly worries me a lot, especially after having removes parking sensors from their latest cars and substituting them with a camera-based solution, which doesn't even appear to be capable of detecting depth since it uses one camera. removing vital features like that is absolutely crazy, kinda wish i had gotten the ioniq 6, even if my M3P is a ton of fun.
@Yvon Q. not sure if i'd consider them overpriced, especially since i really dont factor in the self-driving packages into price or value. i think the model 3 is pretty competitive in price, espeically when compared to the base and long-range models, but i'd rather go with a more reputable car maker instead of one that will remove basic features and replace them with much worse solutions.
5:29 seems like the sky wants to show the BMW to use it's indicator 😂
thought i was the only one who saw it 😂😂😂
Nice detail! I didn't see it at first👍 glitch in the Matrix I guess😁
Well they can't use their indicators but they sure know how to use their annoying rear fog lights. You'd swear they font know where the proper switches are🤔🤔
I noticed that lol
What's crazier that the BMW is not even made in an electric car platform, had it been then itwould have been lighter and even more faster.
Its just "faster" not "more faster"
what are you talking about?
2022 BMW i4 M50
Experience performance like never before. The BMW i4 M50 combines "all-electric" power and efficiency with the detailed design and expert engineering of BMW M - the first vehicle of its kind in BMW's history.
@@AppreciatingLife he's saying that the i4 is built like the 4 series gran coupé but just with electric engine and battery instead of ICE.
It still uses the normal m4's body only the electric engine is changed. Otherwise it is the same car as an m4.
@@AppreciatingLife He meant the platform is from the 4 series, rather than newly developed, and won't be optimal for an electric car.
Not a BMW Fanboy but Im so thankful it won
Thank lord they are always quick as hell
Is it just me or is Mat's F1 impersonation actually quite good? 😂
Super😂😂😂
Wasn't an impression, I was at Silverstone in 93
*You're right!, it was an impressive impression!*
Blew out me fockin eardrums mate
It’s just you
Drag race starts at 2:59
Seriously the starting is boring now
Thanks, on some videos the drag race doesn’t even start until the half of the video passes
Here's your credit, u r welcome
Hi Carwow! For electric cars, you should try a ‘regen brake test’ just for fun. Happy New Year!
Oh yeah I have one with regen brake test
I agree
Rain
most 'allmann' comment, ever 🤣
For all non germans: Allmann is a funny description for a person that is typical german. 😅
I still remember that factory specs Model 3 performance completed 1/4 mile in 11.7s in previous carwow drag races. I am not sure that this 12s score was caused by the environment or the modification, so it is hard to say that i4 can beat tesla in drag race. Anyway, I think the weight difference can definitely show the gap between the two makers.
Totally agree. So the show is just a show. They can actually setup whatever result they want. Even Carwow themselves drove Model 3 Performance for 11.7s with 1/4 mile in their own previous test. Now it became 12s in this race. Well….
@@bill3886 Yea but also remember the fact if the climate is perfect the BMW would also get a lower time ,seems maybe the i4 would win
@@bill3886 Have to appeal to all audiences so they pull a Top Gear and "Script" the outcome.
Well the BMW has a actual interior better build quality so out that 400 200kg would form that itself
Great point
I just love how they are not afraid to act childish and just being themselves. It's part of the recipe for Matt's success I believe. Happy new year Matt and Carwow! Thank you for all the great content!
Matt and yanni want to do top gear, it would most definitely be better than what it is now.
Im the opposite. I used to love his reviews but now its like watching a big kid. I just FF to skip the stupid bits.
@@travis8665 Oh live a little you boring git 😂
When BMW i and ///M are put together
It is like a beast!!
The thing is this is not even a full M
@@thefallenvalley4340 it‘s more of a M than the M440i GC
@@Robin-sf3gk no
2022 BMW 754.th-cam.com/video/q62KNpE1Xco/w-d-xo.html
If the i4 M is a real thing, it would be like the fastest BMW ever produced
Next time show battery percentage,distance before & after race in short (fuel) consumption of both cars
Yes dude. Too much focus on this weirdos face the whole video
@@Bane92 he’s not a weirdo, he’s Matt
You can see there’s only 134 miles of range on the i4 dash before the drag race. It would be nice to have the EV drag races with as close to full charge as possible
who cares..tesla lost this race LOL!
@@carlosbrazao6039 and the range is extremely exaggerated on them too. Ill take the bmw even with limitations and a proper interior over that cheaper than a camry tesla interior with laughable ride
Tesla : " I live my life at quarter mile at the Time "
BMW : Autobahn
most people aren't mostly at 'autobanned' speeds :) and like the race of car-price winning too :)
7:22 Mat’s German accent never disappoints 🤣🤣
Lol
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Wow that bodykit ruins the performance! P3D Usually pulls a 11.7/8
or maybe the tesla has a lot of runtime on it and the battery output is already dropping
@@Wh04m1 unlikely - seems like they keep performance very well.
Cold weather
11.5 under best circumstances but here went something wrong, of course the drag from the bodykit and the wider tyres. Stock M3P would eat that bimmer.
The Tesla 3 long range (non performance) does 12.0. Boost acceleration option gets 11.7/8. Perf model is 11.5. You'll need at least 80% charge and at least 70 F outside.
Happy New Years everyone! I hope you’re all able to get your dream car this year 😉
same to you
Definitely 👌👌👌😤
may Allah fulfill our good dreams
Cant wait to get my dream car RS3 delivered by Matt to South South Africa, i have RS3 may be once ,in real life i new its my dream car ,
Same to you!
As a Tesla S owner and an ex-BMW owner, I found that the BMW certainly has better car body built. I can clearly hear my husband’s phone conversations inside the Teslas while I stand outside of the car with everything closed. And I have to turn down the music’s volume when I drive on city’s road. I never had acoustical problems when I drove my my old BMW. I’m already on the waitlist of the i4.
BMWs are nice when new, but get a lot crappier as they get older. Repairs are ridiculously expensive and common. As they say, if you can't afford a new BMW, you definitely can't afford a used BMW. Teslas go forever.
Tesla is not much better. We’ve got the Tesla for 4 years already and we had to send it to fix no less than 10 times already and it’s at least $2000 (problems with head light, computer shut down when driving, HVAC, etc). Glad that we’ve got extended warranty. I finally got my i4 8 months ago and still no problem yet but we’ve got extended warranty also (7 years total)…just in case. My husband is driving the Tesla and I’m driving the i4 now but my husband said he enjoys to drive my i4 more because it’s better handling and feels more driving a real car. Also the chairs are more comfy.
@@phoebetsau9635 I know heaps of people with Model 3s. They are everywhere now. Model Y best selling car in the world. None of the people I know have problems. Mercedes and BMW are junk, they really are.
@@wpb1395 you know why the 3 & Y is everywhere? Because they keep doing price reduction and plus the additional tax credit from government. You actually can get a 3 for under 50K after tax credit. Y slightly higher. Tesla is a nice computer (if you want to drive a computer out the street) and I do agree how the BMW advertised, they are Ultimate Driving Machines (if you do want to drive an EV feel like driving a real car). We own both so just to express our honest experience with both. This is all about personal preference tho. Why are you being so offensive?
@@phoebetsau9635 Not being offensive. I just think the German cars are junk. Other car manufacturers know they have to go electric but they are losing hand over fist in the conversion. Tesla has amazing vertical integration in their factories and still make a very health profit margin. BTW, I've owned an M135i and I think a Model 3 feels better on the road in terms of poise and handling.
They need to start putting in a subwoofers to get that acoustic feel from the quiet motors.
Or alternatively if you like absolute quiet in your car, they could employ BOSE noise cancellation and mitigate road and wind noise altogether so the only sounds in your car come from your infotainment system or the sound of you chomping through a greggs sausage roll on the M40
@@TheComputec the technology is there for good noise cancelling but i thing it will make you feel very strange, something as akin to a "sensory deprivation tank" it will be surely not for the "faint of hearth" :)
my screaming v8 does a fantastic job at noise cancellation.
@@dark1tdr Oh I totally agree that "complete silence" is horrible. I have spent time in high security government data centres with walls specifically designed to absorb all sounds and it was very jarring. So much so that we were encouraged to only spend limited amounts of time in the room without a break, but sound cancellation technology could be implemented to remove all "UNWELCOME" noise like tyre rumble and wind noise and complimentary technology utilised to enhance driver notifications for useful stimulus like tyre squeal (when the tyres are operating at their limit) etc. The system could also translate the sound of emergency vehicles approaching from front or rear and convert that to a warning sound AND more importantly a visual indicator for when it is dark, raining and you have your sound system cranked up. How many times have we seen oblivious drivers obstructing a fire engine or Ambulance because they simply hadn't noticed them for various reasons.
I only want distractions that are important and useful. I'm sure there is some middle ground and with a little R&D i'm sure it would be possible to soundproof a car more effectively with technology than by just stuffing 150KG of wadding into the voids and the bulkheads
Finally. This is the drag race i have been waiting for. i4 M50 is hot 🔥
Check your eyes.
@@AP13P if you hate grills then ok you can reply but better to reply in a good manner. I also hate those big ass grills as completely failed to grow on me but i do reply in a good manner so please try to reply in manner.Dont take it to serious.
@@abdullahanwar542 he's insecure thats why he replied like that
@@rg6982 yes, indeed he was👍.people should reply in a manner espically in community.
@Ryan Zaoui last time I checked Model 3 Performance ran 11.7 in the 1/4 mile. It also is faster in from a roll without the bodykit.
As a Tesla driver......I would so buy that M50 :-)
Me too! 😍👍
And we would gladly welcome you back to the better world.
Until you realise how crappy the range is…. Watch the recent i4 M50 review on Harry’s Garage.
@@damianscott71 well, I prefer a better car if you are not driving more than 200 km per day...
in my case, maybe I use the car to drive more than 400 km one time per year... so yeah, I would go with i4 always
If you had to drive either car every day, anyone who's sat in and have driven both are taking the BMW. It's not even close, the BMW is a million times better to sit and drive/ride in than a 3/Y.
Happy new year to everybody. Thanks to Mat Watson, the team and Carwow fans
Petrol cars drivers would hit the "NOX" to get that extra oomph in a drag race. These EV drivers hit the "A/C off" to squeeze a little more out!
Also helps with a normal engine
Tesla really need to up their game with their interior's. The new BMW , mercedes and Audis are light years ahead now.
Yeah my Tesla's interior is worse than like a Toyota Camry and Honda. Sucks :(
Wow love that video! Especially because I'm a BMW fanboy since my young age, and because the Tesla 3/Y were the only cars that gave me the "almost" same feeling than a BMW when driving. As a fanboy I love the i4 winning some races, but it's good to see that your drag race confirms what I thought about the Tesla !
Dude this isnt even close to a bmw M series. If u have never experienced a BMW M car then ur opinion on BMWs driving experience is worthless in my eyes. BMW M cars wipe the floor in every category over tesla.
Dude I experienced several BMW M cars and got my opinions. But you're not the center of everything, my comment was not intended to you, I really don't care about what your think about my comment.
@@smoitry why reply at all then... anyways if u read ur comment u pretty much said just cuz tesla kept up with the BMW is why it confirmed ur opinion on tesla feeling the same as ur BMWs. I'm saying just cuz it kept up doesn't make it the same. Speed isn't everything. U can get carbon fiber bucket seats, racing steering wheel,HUD,higher grade materials,etc.. bmw makes it feel like a luxury racing car. Also handles and turns way better. Going from tesla to bmw is like going from bmw to a porsche
I’ve ordered me a i4, looking forward to it. This was exactly a video I wanted to see
But the video is not Acurate… tm3P does 11.6 sec, would never lose to the i4
@@MariaSilva-hq7fh not only that..the technology in the tesla is far superior
@@Ds-pw7gd No it's not. But the interior of the Tesla is far worse.
@@MariaSilva-hq7fh Yea, if you don't like it, call it a lie. Trump won, I get it.
@@AndreDargan forget to take your meds today? I have owned over five different bmw’s..have two bmw’s and Tesla model 3 performance in the driveway right now. I’m not brand loyal fanboy like you
5:28 When God is playing with the "sky on/off" switch a bit.
The model 3 has always done 11.7 runs lately, was that one low charge or were the body mods slowing it down?
Those horrific ass mods not even a fair race
Yeah, very odd that it's a slower result even when compared with other drag races done by CW. Would be good to see battery utilisation and and capacity at the end of all that.
@@uberdump theres not only rear mods alos side and front mods. Morr downforce less speed at upper speed.
100%. why drive a modified Model 3 but standard BMW??
Additionally we all know battery charge levels matter, so why was battery charge levels not shown?
Very disappointing Carwow. How much is BMW paying you for that of race?
Tesla fanboys be like ooheenn ooheenn...
Just for fucks sake. The ealier model 3 runs were done in British summers (perfect temp range for electric cars).
The BMW, inline with other german brands, did better than their claim unlike American cars which always underperform compared to the claims.
As for aero, the BMW i4 is 400KG (almost 900lbs) heavier for gods sake.
Could it be possible that battery thermal management on BMW better than Tesla? Could it be that Tesla had a battery degradation issue?
This is the first test but its surely not going to be the last.
Carwow does not own these cars, they depend on other sources to get their hands on one for testing. They cant always get their hands on the spec that they want.
And whats up with the childish claims of BMW paying money to car wow?
You tesla guys are immature imbeciles.
The Model 3 P has finally met its match. Well done, BMW. These two are incredibly fast!!
Now Iet’s try a Model S
Get the plaid, then we will see
@@creativeedge5134 There will be a BMW M5 electric car the Plaid can race that
@@creativeedge5134 Why? Plaid and regular Model S long range costs significantly more.
only thing i wonder is whether or not the bodykit has scuffed up the model 3's aero, the wing def. has
What happened with this model 3? Every other test I’ve seen from you guys had it at like 11.6-11.7s but this was all the way at 12s. Did the mods the owner put in end up slowing it down?
This channel has never run an 11.5. the fastest they have ever done is 11.7. Outside of this channel, there are a lot of M3P running 11.5 and even 11.4. Carwow is shady with the times they get for the Tesla.
Seems off. I ran a 11.9 in our Y Performance five times in a row and it’s slower than our 3 Performance.
Tesla P3D looks like I was thinking of other channels, but yes most I’ve seen from here were around the 11.7s mark. This one was pretty significantly slower than any I’ve ever seen from them, and it’s wasn’t even raining or bad weather like it’s been in previous tests
It will be even slower soon, in Europe anyway, new rules stating any new car sold from 2022 will have to be fitted with a speed limiter! Thin end of the wedge, enjoy cars while they are still enjoyable lol
I guess it would have been a boring video if Tesla won all the races again knowing what we all know which is that the Model 3P does the 1/4 mile reliably in 11.5-11.6s all day unless your state of charge is really low. Probably ran the SOC down low so the BMW could win some of the matchups. This is clearly an entertainment channel and not a scientific comparison.
What were the battery percentages? It matters more than how much fuel weight is in the tank.
Battery temperature is more important even
I keep saying in the comments that electric car drag races are useless without showing the SOC. Carwow refuses to listen and it’s an obvious bias. Hoping they start to read comments like yours and start doing the right thing for these vids.
Tesla 50% BMW 56%
Is the i4 simulating a straight six and gear changes? It sounds so :D
They implemented a soundtrack which doesn't really try to copy that of an I6 engine, but basically captures the essence if what makes the I6 sound so good.
It's hard to describe, but it sounds really nice while still different than an ICE.
Hans zimmer sound track
I expected Tesla to do the drag race way under 12.0 sec. In addition, I didn't BMW to have worse brakes!
@@MikkoRantalainen 400 kg heavier…BMW doesn’t have worse brakes, if they had the same brakes but one was 400kg heavier the gap would have been even bigger.
@@AOTanoos22 Yeah, obviously higher mass requires more braking power. However, even modern trucks have very good brakes even with 40 ton loads: th-cam.com/video/ridS396W2BY/w-d-xo.html
I meant that I was surprised that BMW released a product which has such a long braking distance. Obviously it could be using the exact same rotors and pads as Tesla and we would see the result shown in this video. In that case, the brake hardware would be identical but the actual implementation for BMW would be worse.
I love the fact that braking was done at 100mph (instead of 70!), but it's a bit of flaw since you need less than 0.1s difference in the reaction time for that type of distance. You should measure the braking distance electronically (not just white line on the ground). Do it 3 times at different Locations on the track to account for variations on the GPS as well. BMW has the sport brakes, but yeah 400kg is 5 people man! Lol thanks Matt!!!!
4 ppl actually.. or 2.5 americans.. 🤔😉🤣
@@peteroz7332Or 3.1 Australians. 🫣
That i4 is fast but I'm surprised the model 3 was slower! Would've been good to mention that you achieved an 11.7 1/4 in damp conditions with a stock M3P earlier.
Sommer Electric Car faster
They must have a bad M3P. The M3P on paper easily beats the i4. Also their LR Model 3 beat their Performance one before.
Damn right. Can’t wait to see what the i4 could do in better conditions!
@@mehsdomi hahaha, on paper yet you see real world results and are butthurt 🤣
@@NS416 Nope, this is the slowest M3P I’ve seen recorded. Plenty of “real world results” showing 11.4 - 11.7 in the 1/4 mile. I think it’s that body kit.
Why’s the sky glitching 5:28 😂
Good spot , where the captain ?
Matrix reboooted ?
Bro do you mind sharing $Saja token on your account
They turned on low details to make sure fps doesn't drop?
The light meter of camera adjusted to at times avoid clipping the highlights in the sky…. U could at times see the better definition in the clouds but by doing that it reduces the metering exposure for midtones which is a persons face
The BMW looks phantastic !
Would take a BMW over tesla all day long
BMW fan boy here. 2nd drag race, I was screaming YESSSSSSSS with Matt🤣
The M3P does 1/4 mile in 11.5 seconds usually. This modified tesla has a lot of drag. Would normally beat the BMW
Tesla fan boys crying 😭
@@Markcain268 im a Tesla fan boy btw but i still like the tesla especially their acceleration
@@FlutyCakes good for you
@@Markcain268 I am crying 😢 😭. That's what we do ...
Strange because normally the m3p does the 1/4 in 11.8 11.7 i wonder if them bits have made the difference
mp3? what about mp4? i like mp4 better :)
@@adibafiq6945 lol sorry meant m3p
11.5 in the real world
@@PerformanceRaven yeah I agree I've had 11.5 out of mine at 87 soc all the car wow races are usually 11.8 for Some reason
After 100,mph the BMW is just destroying the Tesla even with the weight which is impressive . Guessing typical bmw and the stated power numbers are probably lesser than the actual power output.
In the context of cars of similar size, weight not a big issue as speed climbs. Drag and rolling resistance become dominant where peak power matters. Tesla peak power of 490hp is delivered around 50/60mph I think where its power starts dropping thereafter with field weakening. No idea what power curve against speed is like in BMW but wouldn't be surprised if they've gone for more sustained power at higher autotobahn speeds like Matt said rather than BMW necessarily being conservative about its peak power.
Thanks heaps Mat! Be keen to get M50 over Tesla 3 haha, for speed & fine German interior
Great video, I think it captures well how the BMW has a nice top-end acceleration and regardless of 1/4 mile times in the video and appears that under the same test environment, the BMW will eventually pull ahead. So if a Tesla ran quicker a seperate video, that would tell me that under the same environment side-by-side, the i4 would still be the quicker of the two. Did anyone notice a quick shot of the BMW's gauge? It showed 56% SoC, and if you zoom in on a few shots, showed 134miles of range remaining. at "100%' SoC, looks like the range would have been 240miles, or higher considering they were basically accelerating a few times and this particular test wasn't to maximize range.
That Tesla has some rather crappy body kit, that creates significant drag at high speed. In all other videos (including Carwow) standard M3P runs 11.7s, sometimes 11.5s Never 12s. This video is just not representative of true performance which is a shame by Carwow. It's like Mat somehow forgot about that Tesla's body kit when he commented BMW is better at high speed. It's just not.
@@Tom_Mroz until someone else does a video with both cars under the same conditions (like this one) this is what we have to go on. So it is quicker :)
@@Tom_Mroz What data do you have to support the BMW not being quicker at higher speeds? Everything I've read in regards to the powerband and simulators show the M50 having superior top end acceleartion with higher 1/4 mile trap speeds (MotorMatchUp is a good resource: th-cam.com/video/mqdoiAILi-g/w-d-xo.html) to the Model 3 Performance. Additionally, let's say you raise the Model 3's .cd of drag to .30 because of the body kit, it only raises the 1/4 mile time by .04 of a second in simulators, which are 99% accurate given how well they predict a vehicles real-world 1/4 mile times. The BMW is also handicapped with it being the 20" wheel model with wider wheels/tires too and not the skinner tired 19" wheel version, so if we want to split hairs.
@@theRappinSpree agreed, the splitting hairs is pointless because the BMW is also handicapped with its wider 20" wheel/tire package which according to BMW's press release raises the .cd of drag from .25 to .32, which likely makes more of an impact than the Tesla's aftermarket body kit in terms of .cd of drag.
@@loephaengsavanh7380 Does it have the sticky performance wheels then?
If I had £60k to spend on a car... The BMW would take my money from those two... Really like the BMW.
@ Rui Terra Agreed! The Tesla still looks like crapola. Bad proportions from a side view. That nose..ugh. BMW is much more muscular.
No offense Elon!
That does seem a slow run for the Tesla. You usually run an 11.7 or 11.8.
Yup was thinking this just rewatching this video. And it’s consistently been that way. Which would have beaten the BMW then. Suspicious I am!
@@philipmccambridge7003 an m3 beats a model 3 performance any day anyways so
Nope that’s what they do
Very interesting drag race. Just goes to show how far the progress of the modern EV has come. The BMW is certainly set up differently too the Tesla. Would be great to see a drag race between Aud BMW Mercedes and Tesla.
Very surprised well done BMW I did want to order one for my next car but I was told 12 months wait for factory so sacked it off, I’ll revisit next year maybe this or IX
12 sec for the model 3. I never seen a 1/4 on a 3 performace that slow.
Sure.. but in rolling race u need trap speed. Looks like BMW will be slower w higher trap speed. Tesla needs to give the M YP power to the M3p now to keep up.
@@relaxingtravel-LosAngeles
BMW claims a very flat powerband for the i4. If Tesla wants to beat them, they'll likely have to implement new motors which can keep peak power like the Plaid.
@@a.banana Tesla can do that with the 3 now, they just choose not to do it.
@@PerformanceRaven
That's hard to believe. What reason would they have for not unlocking the powerband? The Long Range and Plaid S are so much faster now that they run basically no risk of cannibalizing sales.
Haha.. you cant expect optimal runs every time...... conditions change. Only thing that is important is that the conditions are the same for both cars. As here.
I thought Carwow tested the M3P through and through and it always do 11.8s? But for this test only, it has to be 12.0s.. Hmm..
Wow, who would have thought that on a different day with different tarmac different temperatures in a different car, the 1/4 mile could be 0.2 seconds different !! INCREDIBLE !!!!!!!!
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0.2s is actually a pretty big difference. The Model 3 is very consistent; I wouldn't chalk this up to different conditions. More likely the bodykit and changed tires/wheels is making the car slower.
@@a.banana LOL 0.2 seconds is NOTHING, how long have you been driving ?
I'm 52 mate, and have been driving since I was 17, and owned many performance cars.
0.5 seconds is nothing, over a 1/4 mile, you can lose that by simply spinning a wheel by 10% more than you need to over the first metre (science states 15% wheel slip is optimum for launching).
There are probably over a dozen different things which have made the 0.2 second difference from driver reaction to temperature to weather to tarmac quality to the tyre condition, etc etc etc.
Do you even drive a car bro ?
@@DjNikGnashers You sound childish
@@DjNikGnashers
For a car like the Model 3, a difference of 0.2s is pretty large. Usually that kind of variance is seen when Model 3 have different tire/wheel setups. The larger rim sizes tend to hurt the quarter mile times slightly, as well as grippier tires (the traction control doesn't adjust itself to take advantage of the extra grip). In this case, not only does this car have custom rims and tires, it also has a bodykit very likely adding unnecessary drag. I'd say it's more likely that the modifications made it slower.
Prices are a bit off here. The way you're stating it, it looks like the BMW is just a tad bit more expensive. I just went into their configurator and if I put everything in that the M3 Performance has at your stated price tag, I am 20k higher for the BMW at $81,975...
Also looks like that M3 is modified.
@1:47 Matt's F1 car sound effect was genuinely impressive! 😂🤣😂
M3P's usually hit 11.6-11.8 in a 1/4 mile, even in the rain... Oddly slow here but cool none the less. BMW looks better imo
I get 12.0 to 12.3 in my long range on a poor road which is odd that it's the same speed as a perf. The bmw does look nice though, once the electric infrastructure improves tesla are really going to have to up their game
I honestly hate how the new bmws look. That grill just ruins it imo
I blame it on the body kit
Slow time for the Tesla normally it’s 11.8 and I have seen an 11.7 so 12 is poor probably the body kit has added drag
Look up dragy. A M3P can easily do 11.5s. Problem with carwow is they let the cars sit and get a cold battery
@@romansenger2322 whatever they do with the Tesla, they do with the other cars. The only fare comparison is a head to head race…. Which the Tesla lost…. Baaaaaadly 😂
@@YourTransformationUK they didnt add a shitty body kit to the bmw tho?
I'd blame cold weather
Bodykit and wider Tyres made the Difference, also the Bodykit killed it a bit for sure. I bet when they both at 90% the Tesla will beat it hard
you did a dragrace between a 911 and the Tesla 3 performance 2-3 years ago, where the TM3p did the quatermile in 11,8 sec...
Im sure a lot of people will like the BMW more than the Tesla, especially due to the interior. And thats great so everybody has the choice to go electric if they want to :D
Everybody doesn’t have that much money…
@@Nnn30055 If you have the money for a Tesla, you'll have it for the BMW as well...
@@e0125993 no I’m replying specifically to the part where he says “everybody has the choice to go electric” don’t correct me
@@Nnn30055 you are right but he thought u were talking between the Tesla and bmw.
Finally someone with sense. These Tesla fan boys get heart attacks when another ev does better. They come up with hey my car charges faster or some shit.
Woah I'm shocked the BMW beat the model 3 performance, however that model 3 clearly wasn't running at its best time, these cars are capable of running 11.7 and would've been able to beat the BMW. My guess is that the kit may have been screwing with the aero, but nonetheless, great vid mat! Unique match up!
Maybe the BMW is capable of an 11.5 then? Here today the BMW is faster
@@number1Schumacherfan Mat made other videos with a stock Model 3 performance without the kit and ran a 11.7 second time with it. Go check those out, it appears that this particular model 3 is slower...and I don't know if the BMW is capable of running an 11.5 or not, the car is stock as it should be. It certainly didn't have a crazy kit on it. But yeah, if you strip it it should be capable, same with the 3.
@@number1Schumacherfan Again the key word here is maybe, but we for sure know that tesla is capable of a 11.7 in its stock form
I agree with you Joshua. M3P should have had the BMW. The body kit, the state of charge or if this is an older model M3P would be at least one of the reasons
Great first CARWOW drag race video for the new year of 2022🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love how the camera is freaking out in adjusting exposure of the clouds when mat is talking @ 5:28
BMW performed really well and looks great as well, even though Joe Achilles slated it, funny that, great real world review by a proper motoring journalist thanks again Matt and car wow, not interested if a 6ft 5 person can get in the back of a coupe or if it should have M mirrors
I can only imagine the engineers at BMW spent good money making sure it was programmed to be just a smidge faster than the Model 3..
The weight difference...
The power difference is quite obvious. But Tesla are the ones to beat, wouldn't have thought BMW would release a car that was slower than the biggest e-competitor.
But it is not. The M3P was in this show several times and always 11.8 seconds at the quarter mile. Don't know why this model is slower, could be because of the optical 'tuning' or low SOC?
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Yes maybe this mods affect the quarter mile time but they shouldn’t affect the 0-100.
Just Tesla overestating their numbers as always and BMW underestimating as always
@Maarten van Soest I wouldn't be surprised if it is drag. They have changed the aerodynamics and that rear wing looks like it will add quite a bit of drag over the standard spoiler.
To quote Yianni, M3P is 11.8secs all day every day to the 1/4 mile.
It's just ridiculous how heavy the i4 is.
yeah, and the M3P is 4-5 years old now. German engineering sucks.
I think it's because the i4 sits on a modified ICE platform, as opposed a dedicated electric platform - like the Model 3 - which would make it substantially lighter.
@@channguyen3349 "German engineering sucks" 😂
@@channguyen3349 the 911 is the pinnacle of automotive engineering. American automotive does not compare to German engineering. Never have, never will.
Tbh the standard 4 series x drive weighs around 1750kg as it is. Also remember the added weight of things like sound deadening material over a model 3. Then you Chuck 2 electric motors and the batteries in the place of the normal ICE drive train. To get that power and range you need a lot of batteries. If the i4 was a dedicated electric car platform like the i3 it would be much lighter
3:00 drag race starts
Happy new year carwow community
I hope this year Mat reviews the new Toyota Tundra
Its awesome
Let’s see how many subs I can get from this comment
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I honestly think it was due to the body kit. In previous videos even in damp conditions the Tesla has done like a 11.8 or a 11.7
Eh
Yeah. I am not sure about that body kit either. On the other hand we know the Model 3 stops delivering power as speed increases.
Still suprised how everyone has glossed over the curved infotainment and instrument cluster of the BMW i cars. ITts by far the best looking of any other cars out there.
I think its ugly so "it's by far" not. At least to me.
True, like a Curved OLED colorful screen. Very stylish !
Hi Mat, I do remember the Tesla could do 11.8 so could have won in the right "original" setup? It seems all the modifications done have been worsening the car?🙂
It can also just be that the track is a bit damper on this filming day and thus you loose some speed at the start.
Yeah it seem fishy there is a ton of evidence in videos all over people getting lower numbers
@@makabelion Tesla got a SW "upgrade" to add stability control at the end of 2021. This test may be the result of the cars now being legal!! Also Teslas turned the power off the front motor after 5 seconds. If they continue to use it for more than five seconds, they'd burn up. The front motor is of the induction type where 10-15% of the power delivered is converted to heat. If you watch the Bjorn video of him launch testing you'll see the F power parameter on the scan tool go to zero at 5 seconds after launch. The BMW has two PM motors that burn all the time.
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@@twotone3871 I could not find anything about an upgrade for the stability control? Could therefore also not find any evidence that this was needed to make them legal OR that it hurted performance in any way. Would appreciate if you could give us a source?
Then your claim that Tesla is turning off the front motor because they will "burn out", again was not able to find anything about that? I mean, all motors have watercooling, you know that right? You present your "claim" as a fact by referring to an acceleration video of Bjorn. In that video you see the power of the front engine going to zero as soon as acceleration is stopped. But this is actually very normal behavior. Its more efficient to drive on one engine so as soon as accelleration stops and there is only the need to keep the speed constant so one motor will not get any power. The beauty of it is that the front induction engine does not create drag when not powered (where all other PM do when not powered)
Please tell me you did not fabricate this overheating story because (and only because) you saw the Fpower go to zero and simply did not understand the reason behind it?
Last thing; You mentioned that the BMW (last sentence) has two PM motors, but thats not true, they don't have permanent magnets at all. Thats the whole reason they use brushes in their motors, these are wear parts and need service where PM motors do not.
Motortrend wrote an article about them, some quotes:
"BMW is betting that modern materials and sealing technology will allow modern-day brushes and commutators to last for a reasonable service interval in the life of a modern EV."
"And like your brake pads, the brushes and commutator generate dust and wear out, requiring periodic replacement, which are some of the reasons these are not currently used in any modern EVs or hybrids."
"The biggest takeaway from this is that brushless motors are preferred over brushed because they do away with the maintenance and dust that come with brushes rubbing a wearing surface (the commutator), both of which increase the lifespan of the motor. Disadvantages are higher initial cost and more complicated motor speed controllers that typically require three Hall-effect sensors to properly measure the positioning of the stator and rotor (although some modern controllers have found clever ways to do without these sensors)."
@@Maarten_vd Hi Maarten. Thoughtful reply. Let me provide the sources...
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Induction motors are10-14% less efficient than PM motors are that 10-15% is burned as heat - watch the F stator temp go up.
BMWs I4s do have PM motors. Brushless motors have been around a very long time and pre-dates EVs.
The reason why Tesla Model 3s lose in longer races is that the front motor drops out. This is why the 60mph race came in. Teslas burn the front motors for 5 secs then turn off the front motor.
The only problem that would stop me buying an Ev beside tesla is the unavailable supercharger like network and it would be somewhat problematic when it comes time for a road trip
I'm pretty sure the network will be available for non-teslas eventually. They are testing it in Netherlands already and have said the network will open for everyone in Norway this year. Similar planning is going on in Germany as well.
"It’s always been our ambition to open the Supercharger network to Non-Tesla EVs, and by doing so, encourage more drivers to go electric. This move directly supports our mission to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy."
www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging
Depends on where you are. In Germany (and most of Europe?), there is enough infrastructure available to everybody.
That doesn't really make a difference tho, if you can charge at home.
I have an EV for 1 year now, and I never used a public charger.
You managed to find the slowest Tesla M3P to date. It’s consistent 11.7-11.8 1/4 mile
That V12 impression was surprisingly accurate
Happy New Year to you too Mat Watson
Happy new year to all my car wow peeps. Hoping for more splendid videos this year.
Electric is cleaner, yes, but I hope they can continue making ICEs and find an alternative cleaner fuel source and let people choose what car they want rather than 'forcing' us all to drive electric.
Well, without the pressure from EVs, and let's say it, Tesla, they'd still drag their feet. BMW had a glimmer genius with the i3, really interesting concept, but then continued dragging their feet. If they ever come up with a good petrol based gas replacement, they better do it in the next few years. Kudos to Tesla, Nissan, Chevy, Renault for pioneering, to the Koreans, Ford and VAG for the second wave.
Interesting you got 12s when you usually get 11.7s on the Model 3 performance.
its all that extra drag.
The weather (wind) could be the reason. It is hard to have the same weather condition all the time ai think. When Model 3 Performance will get 11.7, BMW should 11.6.
Body kit didn't look that good, I thought.
@@Petrolhead_Number_One I was wondering if it was the body kit?
Interesting they always run 11.7 when everyone else does an 11.5 with the Tesla.
Happy New Year everyone! Love these drag races, Mat rocks!
The front bumper is my number one gripe about the Tesla model 3 but that one changes everything
were was the exhaust sound check ????? 😂
I am surprised at how nice the Beemer looks in that color. Not really a contest though, if you think
how much better the quality in the i4 M50 is. Especially interior. 4k difference only, that's a bargain for the I4.
Now put a Taycan 4S with pb+ there, should be a very close race. The Taycan has mostly done 11.7 or 11.8. And the e-tron GT, too. Though I suspect that is making more like 12.1.
Interestingly Mat has managed a 11.7 in a model 3 performance when he drag raced the 3 model 3 variants
Also in every other video with a model 3 performance they did 11.7 i just checked
Conditions vary. Also EVs are sensitive to state of charge and temps.
What we do know is the BMW is no slouch.
Different day, different surface, different air temp etc.
@@jannis-joelfehl4855 i think tesla had battery around 60% thats why
And like others have said, that body kit on the Tesla is not doing it any favours at high speed...
Its surprising how well bmw’s M division have done with the performance of their first electric car.
Do a Model 3 Performance VS Model 3 Long Range With Performance Boost!!!
Leave it to BMW to want to best every car on the market. Even beating electric cars now 👏🏾
My M3P does 11.7 every time not sure what’s up with this one. Carwow never ever mentions the SOC of the cars which can make a difference unfortunately 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly!!
0.3 secs could be caused by the increased downforce of the wing and sideskirts
yea, this M3P is pretty slow, i think the weels also play part in this.
Either carwow is ignorant of SOC or they specifically use SOC to manipulate results.
@@johnbcardin They know full well.
It's a pretty important bit of information that should be included for all ev's.
5:28 love the blinking clouds
Bmw and audi actually make me want an ev. Can't believe it
*Can we just apperciate how much effort he puts in making these cool videos*
Well he is only in the videos, he dosent put any effort in the editing
Happy new year from germany. First of all, I really enjoy your videos. Both cars are really great. Between these 2 cars I had to choose and I ordered the BMW. Even I had to wait much longer for it.. For me it is one of the most beautiful cars.
That model 3 has full body kit mods for more aero. What did you do to the BMW again?
This is the one we have been waiting for!
No, no it wasn't.
I was waiting for a stock Tesla Model 3 Performance against a stock BMW i4 M50 and a competent reporter to let us know what the SOC was before the electric car drag race
In the video from 27.03.2021 carwow made the standing quarter mile with the Model 3 P in 11.7sec. This time it was 12sec. 🤔
Oh cuz differences in track conditions can’t cause a difference of only 0.3 seconds?
@@Maximilian_Ingrosso I would say it is rather the bodykit/spoiler making the tesla slower. This would also explain the difference in higher speed. Whatever it is... the 0.3sec made the Tesla losing the race
Ummm *NOT* to be a Tesla fanboy but something’s going on here. M3 Performance does a 1/4 mile in 11.6 seconds. Even on other carwow drag races it did 11.7 sec. Was the body kit M3 chosen specifically to make the BMW look good/better?
M3 is a legendary name in Motorsporting.
Don't mix it up with ugly vacuum cleaners
The crash pads for the high-voltage battery may not have been assembled. This can cause damage to the high-voltage battery in the event of a serious side crash and may cause a short-circuit increasing the risk of a fire.
The BMW i4 vehicles affected by this recall were manufactured between 15 September and 30 November 2021.
BMW recall code: 61430600
Affected models: i4.
You need to re-run this with a normal M3 Performance - I doubt that body kit reduces drag, I suspect that it adds rather a lot hence the BMW pulling away at higher speeds. The 1/4 mile is very slow for a M3P as others have stated. Lets see it run with two stock cars then we can see which accelerates fastest.
In the other drag race the model 3 took 11.7 sec so tesla can beat the bmw ;)
This was likely done in cold conditions and we’ve only had one run with the bmw, so we could argue the bmw has potential for even faster time.
@@oscarwendowski76 of course. And I'm not a fanboy.
That's what happens when you glue little parachutes to an extremely aerodynamic standard car.
it was into a head wind !😣
A standard Tesla Model 3 Performance should do the Race in 11.8 sec, they always do this time. Mat already proofed it too in his races.
So its as fast as the Bmw , but still good Job Bmw on the acceleration on this car , because it pulled very good in the rolling race
The track was wet
11.5 seconds, only on Carwow does it do 11.8 because they are shady as hell
That front end looks sick!!! Like the Lamborghini Urus but a shortened version. Startech did an awesome job on this 🤙🤙