FIRST LOOK Commander Masters Precon GAMEPLAY | Zhulodoc VS Anikthea VS Sliver Gravemother VS Guff
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Turns out "the planeswalker are the problem... No in fact the Eldrazi were the real problem!" is both lore and game accurate
That was a really cool game, the enchantress deck seems insane. Now only if I could afford these.
I think it has most of the enchantress effects. Those and bunch of mana and any enchantment deck will go off. The list itself isn’t that powerfull. Imagine what it can do when even slightly upgraded!
@@ondrejbronec837when you spend even more money on it?
Proxy it until it becomes more affordable. I’m sure most of your podmates will be cool with rule 0’ng that since WOTC refuses to MSRP these
You can proxy these decks for $.30 each card. So only $30 each, all 4 for only a bit more than the price of one.
@@superpedro2501 well clearly the 80$ isnt enough you need to spend 120 or 160$ if you want to have fun and isntwasting your money the most fun to behad. I said no. but Wizzards is sending the pinkertons to everyones house who denounces them and scalpers and cardshops and anyone else who pretend s thsi crap isnt insane
I genuinely mean this as a compliment but I love Maddy's commentary when playing brand new cards. "I've got this abstruse archaic, it's got an ability, anyway I manifest now"
Hey, thanks lmao
I think WotC has gotten really good at getting their yearly precons to stack up against each other, and this video really highlights that. Really fun, splashy, memorable moments. No one was really that out of the game until the end. Even the way things played out in the end are dependent more on how the other decks had played rather than the deck itself blowing the other ones out of the water. Fun game.
Yes they're all equally jank
My fave point was "do you really want to mill 20 cards into our second hand?"
I don't have anything valuable to say, but am commenting to help the algorithm because I enjoyed this.
36:17 had me cracking up. "Are you sure you want to do that? It stocks my graveyard for reanimation" .... were gonna go ahead and have Aaron mill the top 20 cards of his library "Are you sure you want to do that? It stocks my graveyard for reanimation" 💀
Best way to counter mill. Run a recursion strat
Funny tech for Anikthea - Oppression. Cast Onikthea, discard whatever enchantment, have her etb and reanimate whatever you discarded.
Yup yup, I play that and necrogen mist in my list for that reason.
I'm getting zur vibes from this 😂
Ooh! I like the look of both the Eldrazi and Enchantress decks O.o Super cool stuff. Looking forward to seeing what you do with them.
This made me even more excited about the Anikthea deck!!!
I just brought the deck home today
Damn it, Spikes, don't do this to me! I had written off this Commander Masters stuff as something I was going to skip, then you go ahead and show that the decks are cool and fun!
Also, great game, and as always I love seeing more games with Aaron and Maddy.
You can high quality proxy all 4 for around $100 👀
As a super friends player, i get the goofy threat assessment...i also get focused. Everyone sees walkers and just murders them on site
They had no other good attacks than towards the walkers
the problem with walkers is that alot of the times they dont get killed on sight suddenly "oops i get infinite and win now" so the threat assessment is not goofy
@@jonathaneklund6003 That would make sense for 1 or 2 rounds but after they all swung, sliver can hit enchants which counter them, and the enchant can hit the eldrazi player when they all swung out. Also just go past the planeswalkers and hit him
Great game! Poor Guff(s) :(
Alex out the gate winning my affection and attention with a wrestling reference. Excited to see how this game goes.
I'm so glad I preordered all the precon!
I reely enjoyed this game! Bravo friends!
Cool to see some Anikthea play before I get my Precon in the mail. GGs
Thank you all for this very cool Video! The four Precon Decks are so cool..❤😅
That was tons of fun to see
Nice to see a fellow twice fan!sick gameplay btw
I love them so much, I've seen them in concert twice! :) They're my favorite kpop group.
Around 20 mins, when Anikthea was casted the 1st time, there should have been 2 triggers from Composer of Spring (1 for Anikthea and 1 for Arasta), in fact Anikthea recurse from the graveyard an enchantment as a 3/3 zombie creature "in addition to its other types", so Arasta keeps the enchantment type. Guess it doesn't matter in the end.
This was a great video btw i loved to see how much fun you had. Me and my friends are planning to buy one of each Commander and play together (i'm definetly going for Anikthea, i just love that card). Ty so much for the game!
More Aaron please!! Love having him on the show
Bro was the goofiest player on here.. didn’t do anything all game tbh 😂
Yep i am sold on the Eldrazi deck 4 board wipes to keep the game under control love it.
This is the first time watching commander gameplay, that i saw people concede
Hey great video! Got to see what each deck had going on so that was really great for a precon showcase. Also just wanted to say I think adding some background music would go a really long way for the video. It's your thing, just my two cents!
My first time watching, but I feel like I must become #TeamAlex because I feel him when he said, "Wow...the threat assessment." I always say that at my LGS! :)
Commander players usually are really bad at TA (threat assessment, not Team Alex P:).
The Enchantress deck is amazing out of the box. Some slight upgrades and it could definitely wreck almost any table.
The slivers deck as a precon played exactly as I imagined it. That manabase is rough. Loved the Eldrazi and the Enchantments deck pop off. Can't wait for the next episode! Might pick up the Eldrazi one when they get on sale.
WotC maybe excused their bad mana base decision with Gemhide and Manaweft Sliver^^.
@@klerkusmaximus No, it would have made total sense to print the battlebond lands and at that point the deck might have been just about worth a buy. Or at least including sliver hive. At it's current state it's a pretty dumb purchase and if it sells well it will just seal the deal for Wizards to price future "non-premium" commander decks at £85. I could build a sliver deck with a decent land base for the same price if not less.
I'm looking at getting the Sliver Swarm deck. I have seen that a lot of people get rid of most of the basic lands in favor of 2, 3, and 4 color lands to balance out the mana better
Yayyyyy go Enchantments! I can’t wait to build a deck around Narci
Gamegenic makes my favorite deck boxes lol. And nice deck..
Culling ritual keeps being amazing! The game was very fun too
I'm very excited for the enchantress deck the only precon that I've actually had my eye on
i want to pick up most of these decks now...
Enchantress, though, wow - always poppin' off!
Sweet game, enchantress decks def have come a long way since 93 😮
I've been keeping an eye on all 4 of these decks ever since their announcement. I barely play the game anymore, but I'm constantly intrigued by their playstyles. I've gotta say, the enchantments one has surprised me a lot. It was my least favored, and it's now my most anticipated.
Compared to Slivers and Eldrazi who look like they just play the same as they have always played, the Enchantment one looks like something I've never seen before.
I am so hyped for my eldrazi deck to arrive
Enchantresses and Abundance is a classic synergy, never seen it in a precon though.
Noted down a few more powerful cards I need to get.
Promise of Loyalty
Darksteel Monolith
Composer of Spring
I wanna get that enchantris deck if I have the money and after seeing this definitely going to try and save up for it
That was a lot of crazy tempo swings.
That culling ritual was *wild*
When the elrazi "ramp" deck has 6 lands out, and ofc the enchantments deck had like 12, with a board so full it was filling the entire playmat
Good games.
Did you play only the one or more after?
That mat Jim!!! Where do I get it?! Looks amazing:)
Oh no, planeswalkers! Lets all attack them! Meanwhile lets just ignore the double strike indestrictuble slivers and the cascader eldrazi lmao
Nice to see how the new precons play out, might proxy some of the cards because the price of the new cards will be absolutely insane on the second market
Lovely games
I can't wait for my Eldrazi deck to come in but man in the limited amount of preview games I've seen it is so vulnerable to board wipes. It also has a lack of Eldrazi (Something like 15 or less). Definitely gonna be interesting seeing what upgrades people make to it.
It got cards to make indestructible
It's because unfortunately, it isn't an Eldrazi deck, but a colorless deck (that happens to have Eldrazi in there).
@@guilhermeviana3669 I mean they named it Eldrazi Unbound lmao
Man I want to see a Jimothy Anikthea list so bad.
The eldrazi precon having the half-art wastes has to be some sort of crime, its so obvious the art wasn’t made for the card frame and they look terrible
now im a slivers player myself, but seeing the precons in action i kinda want all of them ..
Ye the slivers deck was soooo good =D... i have always wanted to have a sliver deck
10/10 would recommend 😎 just be ready to drop a pretty penny for that mana base
Tip for Anikthea upgrade: Cryptbreaker
Trust, it's cracked
I’m surprised endless ranks of the dead wasnt in the precon.
Love you guys. Love most of the game play. Watching these decks with these mana bases just hurts knowing how much they cost. The lord of the rings pre cons had better lands for in most cases less money.
At 14:00 You said pass turn. If I was plainswalker guy I would have fought for that a little more.
Oh yeah!!! Let’s go spikes let’s go guff!!!!!!
Aaron frustrated me when he exiled the silent arbiter. 😊
He didnt get rid of any planewalkers, he didn't get rid of card that lets her drop cards for free every turn, he didn't get rid of jims commander, there were so much more better targets arbiter was saving everyone's life
@@matthewlugo2417yup if anything silent arbiter would help him against eldrazi and Jim’s bored such a bad move
I’ve made this same mistake early in my magic playing, playing an aggro deck, you see silent arbiter or crawl space and immediately think “that’s not good for my decks strategy” when In actuality that would’ve been the perfect time to remove real threats and build your board state. Save the silent arbiter until you’re ready to finish the table. He could’ve exiled half the board with encore triggers provided he had the mana for it
I'd love to see in a masters set a masters of the universe
Does spark double not enter with an aditional counter, so it enters with 7 coz if bacon and you plus to 8?
When Maddy kicked the Myriad Construct, should her commander’s cascade, cascade ability have triggered?
Kicker doesn't affect the CMC of a card, so the mana value was still less than 7.
Can’t believe rise of the eldrazi got milled
I have a question about the Ondu Spiritdancer card in Jim's deck.
When it says you "May" copy an enchantment as it enters, do this only once each turn.
If i choose not to copy the fitst enchantment i play does the once per turn thing kick in or does it only kick in when ibe actually copied something?
That’s correct, the “once per turn” restriction only applies to you copying the enchantment, it’ll still trigger later if you opt not to copy one earlier in the turn. Compare the rulings on Nykthos Paragon, it has an identically-worded ability that lets you put counters on your creatures “once per turn”.
@@MegaTrain So I can keep saying no, but once I say yes it's like final answer no more copying.
@@nicholasrolo886 That’s correct, no more copying until the next turn.
@@MegaTrain Appreciate the clarification. Thank you
Heck yes, hype meter through the roof
At 8:00 I don’t believe you could have tapped the bacon as it has summoning sickness
As a sliver player wth was wizards thinking with that mana base and why didnt we get more new slivers to work with. Ive never seen a sliver deck not do absolute work before
They were thinking it doesn't matter since people will buy it anyway. And try to somehow don't provide a full and high power deck as a precon.
Does kicker count as additional cost to cast or a separate ability? If it's cast cost, would Myriad Construct trigger the cascade?
Kicker is just paying an additional cost. It does not change the mana value so cascade does not trigger.
Enchantress is great, but it is still the same flat enchantress style.
That's how I feel about this deck too. I talk about it in the postgame discussion next week, but I really wish they'd leaned more into reanimator and less into "everything draws you a card".
- Jim
11:35 when you play Spark Double on Guff, shouldn't it be already 6 loyalty, then 7 with your artefact ?
Wasn't the Duplicant also indestructible when Elspeth went off? Because it's also a sliver being a Shapeshifter?
No because it copies the creature type of whatever it exiled which was jims enchantment beast
Shapeshifter doesn't grant additional creature types, even though a lot of them have the changeling ability that DOES grant additional creature types.
I had pre-ordered the Enchantress deck when it got revealed because it looks very solid and I already have a bunch of cards to upgrade it. This means I'll have both a Selesnya Enchantress deck and an Azban one and I don't feel bad about it one bit either!
I am so judging his choices look at the 45° tilt of those tapped lands.
Aww I like War of the Spark Ugin for this deck. =( lol
Really wish y’all played the game out…
Alex here with jet-lag.
am gonna get the eldrazi deck and maybe the abzan or sliver deck
deffo not the jeskai deck i hate playing jeskai
As soon as he put out commodore huff the first time he forgot the passive effect
i might be missing something. why at 9:25 did the double strike sliver die
it was blocked by 2 1/1 wizards, the attacking sliver was the 1/1 that gave menace
Hold on, when is this coming out?
August 4th :D
When Aaron dealt damage with two two-headed slivers, couldn't he sacrifice two of them to Descendants' since they were separate players?
Really hopin the shop near me that sold LotR decks for less than 70 sells these precons for about the same, because not only do I wanna play/upgrade both the Eldrazi and Sliver precons, but both have some singles I could use elsewhere - that Ugin's Mastery is perfect for Kadena, the illusion titan in Slivers is great for Jabari, etc
I might be wrong, but on Maddy's turn 6 when she cast the creature kicked, while it was on the stack woulding it's MV be 7 and therefore trigger the double cascade?
Kicker is mana you spend to on an ability, not the actual spell. Therefore the spells mana cost is still 4 unfortunately.
I thought the same thing and am disappointed that it doesn't work that way :(
I too am disappointed it doesn't work that way ahaha
Alex just Commodore Guffing in front of my salad?!
😀
@32:40 why not play the starfield mystic first this turn and reduce the cost of the harpy and the abundance?
I assume it was drawn off of a trigger
Did WotC try to build decks that are divisive? Apparently Gavin said they scrapped an idea for a Evil Zedruu deck because it turned into Stax, but I don’t see why that would be so bad. Enchantress and Planeswalkers are the kill on-sight decks for me. As an Eldrazi loyalist, I’m anti-matter, anti-value. Become one with nothing.
If they were going to limit the Wizard tokens to only making mana that can be used to cast Planeswalkers, why did they also limit it to being Red. It could have been so good in any Superfriends build that contained Jeskai, limiting to Red reduces the utility by a decent amount.
Yeah I agree.. should’ve been all 3 colors the deck plays.. red white and blue. Even if it was red and blue that’s still better than just red. I just got that planeswalker deck and I’m excited to play it with upgrades. I didn’t think the enchantress deck was all that crazy until I watched this game.
Jim, did you miss an Anikthea etb trigger from casting after the Culling Ritual?
The pain at Jim losing composer when it could be the best card in the deck 😢
Dude missed Ajani upping loyalty counters and missed jis Jaya's Phienix trigger again.
Why didnt maddy get her tokens when elspeth board wiped?
Myriad Construct says when it's the target of a spell or ability you would sac it and make the tokens, but Elspeths ability destroying it doesnt target. So no tokens for me :'(
@@TheSpikeFeeders ohhhh got it, that's a bummer
I said, and nobody hear me, but the anikthea deck is the most powerfull precon of this set
I like to think Zhulodoc is Zhulodok's smarter twin that's got a PHD 😂
Zhulodork
Decks are good but $170 for the eldrazi one is ridiculous
Yeah that is pure greed. It was selling for $60-80 when they first went on sale and I luckily preordered off Amazon for $80. Now everywhere has them at $180 for no reason lol
Still going for $85 on amazon 🤷♂️
alex looks like boyle from nine nine xD
I’m just waiting for august 4th like the rest of the scrubs who don’t get them early 😂
Could you play 13 more times so I can analyze it better?
Slivers seems so behind of all other three decks...
How could Alex activate Elspeths loyalty ability twice that turn, am I missing something?
Oath of Teferi
@@b0lkan thx
What I really, really do not like about the idea of Anikthea is that Replenish, Resurgent Belief, Brilliant Restoration and Open the Vaults exist.
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