Getting Right Into It with cEDH Gameplay | Atraxa vs Ob Nixilis vs Najeela vs Shalai and Hallar

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  • @TheSpikeFeeders
    @TheSpikeFeeders  ปีที่แล้ว +83

    For those wondering why there was an overgrown tomb in my naya deck, I had swapped over the mana base from my old blood pod deck and didnt check carefully enough to remove all the black lands. Thanks for your understanding ❤

    • @TheGrifcannon22
      @TheGrifcannon22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just make sure it doesn't happen again. ;)

    • @Snskch3
      @Snskch3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shame! Mistakes not allowed!!

  • @evanskates92
    @evanskates92 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Jim came up to my pod at magic con Vegas on the last day of the last hour and asked us who has done the coolest play of the game so far. I explained that I attempted to win the game last turn by casting a turn 4 peer into the abyss into an Exsanguinate with my Rowan deck he seemed he was on a time crunch and handed me a secret lair. Moments before the transaction the player across from me at the table said he had a Rowan deck and really wanted the full art version of the card. I told him that I had one and just gave it to him and he asked if I wanted something in return and I replied with “don’t worry about it, I enjoy always helping people out. Besides I’m sure it will come around soon enough.” Que Jim. It was much appreciated and definitely one of the moments I won’t forget going to this magic con.

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This actually warms my heart. I'm glad you had a good time!

  • @apd5084
    @apd5084 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    derevi can tap fyndhorn elves, then jim could attack with 4 creatures with a city of brass up for the najeela activation

  • @ryzlei
    @ryzlei ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This game is so organized when it comes to passing priority and responding to the stack, thank you for being a good example.

    • @tylercherry7424
      @tylercherry7424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wish all groups were like this for priority and the stack.

  • @TheGrifcannon22
    @TheGrifcannon22 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Alex: Jim is going to become a problem later.
    Jim: Becomes a problem later.

    • @alexmcgregor8658
      @alexmcgregor8658 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In fairness, you can just sort of say that whenever, it's basically always true.

    • @nerdlabmtg
      @nerdlabmtg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      always point out other people as the problem. It helps you become the problem later.

  • @achocofilah
    @achocofilah ปีที่แล้ว +15

    “Cactus Kingpin” kinda fire, get that merch rollin

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I really like the Ob Nix play style. That atraxa was pretty crazy, it's bound to help dig for problems or answers.

  • @iceninesix
    @iceninesix ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Just started watching your channel last week im normally a casual commander player but thru this channel im learning how cedh works and it looks really fun im gonna try and proxie a few decks and try to learn with my pod

    • @TheGrifcannon22
      @TheGrifcannon22 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      These Canadians are a great entry point to cEDH. They are a fun bunch.

    • @Snskch3
      @Snskch3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m new to cedh. I like it wayyy better. Casual commander gets a lot of salty people when you play the game. People have many different expectations of gameplay. But in cedh everyone has the same goals and it is much smoother and more fun imo. Plus I’m a competitive person so I dig it

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alex’s hawaiian shirt is super dope. Awesome colors.

  • @pablo.aranda95
    @pablo.aranda95 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Aaron has the coolest demonic tutor I've ever seen.

  • @j.angelzamorano4966
    @j.angelzamorano4966 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:09 the face and noise made is hilarious

  • @ciaran.downey
    @ciaran.downey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    house for his wheels, what a flex

  • @mtgaaron
    @mtgaaron ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I swear Alex’s turn somehow made my turn worse…

  • @B1gLupu
    @B1gLupu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:44 Why exactly didn't Jim go for the win? 3 mana to cast Derevi, etb tap the elf and swing and win. He had 5 attackers with the Warrior token which is enough. Am I missing something here?

  • @shilohartisan
    @shilohartisan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    34:14 "You can name a card whenever you want Jerry" This makes me think....
    "I'll tap for one green green and cast Eldritch Evolution, sacrificing Llanowar Elves, naming 'Ramunap Excavator' "
    "pass priority"
    "I'll resolve Eldritch Evolution, getting a Collector Ouphe to the battlefield and sending Eldritch Evolution to exile.
    Pass turn"

    • @DubWubby
      @DubWubby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eh, feels intentionally misleading. It'll at best get a judge called on you right quick

    • @shilohartisan
      @shilohartisan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DubWubby definitely. I would never do it.

  • @MeanDeanHarrison
    @MeanDeanHarrison ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aaron's nearly all land Atraxa flip is why I took that deck apart.

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so that's how you come up with new ideas for playmats, you wait until some card gets mispronounced in some funny way and then you make that into a mat, that's brilliant

  • @kylecarson3318
    @kylecarson3318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great game. Thanks gentlemen

  • @heykak
    @heykak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is dockside extortionist one of those cards you just always have in your (c)EDH deck if you are playing with red?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Generally yeah -- with the notable exception of decks that utilize Polymorph effects (Some Malcolm decks use it to polymorph into Glint-Horn Buccanneer, as an example). If you're optimizing and budgetless, most of the time you can't afford to ignore it.

  • @Leovold
    @Leovold ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @30:18 Alex's face of: " Man I knew Jim was going to be a problem. " is hilarious.

  • @carlospastor5261
    @carlospastor5261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe im missing something but Najeela could win in min 15 if he searched Derevi. He had 4 attackers and the ETB of Derevi to tap or untap a permanent, so he only had to attack Jerry tapping his elf or untap a land and activate Najeela to infinit combats.

  • @jameslennonftw
    @jameslennonftw ปีที่แล้ว +20

    18:20 Overgrown tomb in a Naya deck?

    • @mikep5330
      @mikep5330 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm dumb

    • @jameslennonftw
      @jameslennonftw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikep5330 For commander, you are only able to use cards that have pips in rules text that are a part of your commander colour identity. (not including reminder text, you can use extort cards in mono white or black) Overgrown Tomb has a black pip in the rules text, therefore cannot be used in a Naya deck.

    • @mikep5330
      @mikep5330 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jameslennonftw You're right. Thought it was a fetch for some reason.

  • @nerdlabmtg
    @nerdlabmtg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great game. I just finished building my first Cedh deck and it's Najeela. It was nice seeing it in aciton.

  • @bolthusbear
    @bolthusbear ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got the tech for you: Dead // Gone. Picks your Drake'd commander back up, or it removes Orcs.

  • @Lucarioguild7
    @Lucarioguild7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's a lot of formats where overpowered creatures really mess with the format but it feels like cEDH just gets more cool and interactive the more op creatures they print like Bowmasters

  • @damnjekyll
    @damnjekyll 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did i miss some sort of unspoken pre game fued between Alex n Jim? I dont watch the channel much but they are good with making game actions clear so its enjoyable.

  • @jean-paulbascelli1078
    @jean-paulbascelli1078 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely daring and intense gameplay! Well done gents!

  • @BisyBackson365
    @BisyBackson365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Demonic Tutor + demonic consolation off Atraxa Flips. That late in the game should be gg.
    Missed window there. Great game guys!!

  • @ravipun6714
    @ravipun6714 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    jerry dying in the inside

  • @emporiumofcuriosity
    @emporiumofcuriosity ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You don’t need light. Just have Alex narrate the turns in the dark.

  • @Leovold
    @Leovold ปีที่แล้ว

    Dauthi only exiles your opponents cards? Not sure if that was fixed during the game, but March should not have been under it.

  • @bh75the_great76
    @bh75the_great76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a great game to watch!! I recently got an Ob and am excited to build it.

  • @KeiruKeiru
    @KeiruKeiru ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game was WILD

  • @kaijukraken
    @kaijukraken ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If no one does ob nixilis, 🌵 kingpin I would be slightly offended

  • @tylercherry7424
    @tylercherry7424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Orcish Bowmaster triggers twice if they choose to use library

  • @SamErvin
    @SamErvin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great game! Love it when everyone gets a chance to (try to) pop off.

  • @andrewwhite2123
    @andrewwhite2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alex looking slim!!

  • @ipsyop
    @ipsyop ปีที่แล้ว

    dauthi only exiles opponents cards, just as a note I noticed Aaron put his own cards under it.

  • @lucassloan1960
    @lucassloan1960 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    evolution gets exiled whenever it gets cast

  • @resplendentobscurity
    @resplendentobscurity ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What gas of a game! Very enjoyable watch:)

  • @EliMastermind
    @EliMastermind ปีที่แล้ว

    I made an ob nixilis deck a few days ago and it has gone really well at my LGS!

  • @santajose
    @santajose ปีที่แล้ว

    It almost didn't feel like cEDH for a moment, I really enjoyed the part where all had the opportunity to win until they don't

  • @casperpedersen223
    @casperpedersen223 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Super cool game. You guys are chill as always. Little side note and I hope this doesn't come off as rude but if Jerry hasn't had that lump on his neck(never noticed it before) checked out by a doctor he really should. Looking forward to more vids

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I have had it checked out, it's a benign cyst that I just haven't had removed yet! Completely non harmful, thank you for being concerned though ❤

    • @TheGrifcannon22
      @TheGrifcannon22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was worried about that too! I've seen a few people with those and it never ended well. Glad to know it's benign.

    • @casperpedersen223
      @casperpedersen223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Super glad to hear it

  • @mizusun4431
    @mizusun4431 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A cool play Jerry could have done was after vampiric resolves, cracking his fetch so Ob exiled the tutored card under the silence and it stayed in exile

  • @luckyhobbit8894
    @luckyhobbit8894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've never seen shalai and halar make 0 counters.

  • @ThaHarDB
    @ThaHarDB ปีที่แล้ว

    at 25:30 aaron's stuff doesn't get exiled by the dauthi voidwalker, it only works on your opponent's stuff

  • @davidokeefe7365
    @davidokeefe7365 ปีที่แล้ว

    wasting that pact of negation on the opposition agent was cooky

  • @veganwiener8047
    @veganwiener8047 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Are we just going to ignore the fact that Jerry played overgrown tomb in a Naya deck?

    • @cobaltbeau
      @cobaltbeau ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems questionable for sure

    • @TheGrifcannon22
      @TheGrifcannon22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was really confused by that as well. I'm calling a judge for a deck check.

    • @brandoncreek5709
      @brandoncreek5709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's absolutely legal. Lands have no color so you can run off-color fetches.
      If I'm getting r/whooshed, well played.

    • @cobaltbeau
      @cobaltbeau ปีที่แล้ว

      It's color identity, not color. Swamps have an implied {B} in their text box, so their color identity is black in addition to whatever else @@brandoncreek5709.
      Also, this is cEDH, and so even if it was legal, it would still be even worse than a basic forest.

    • @veganwiener8047
      @veganwiener8047 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brandoncreek5709 Lands are colorless, but have color identity. Overgrown tomb has the color identity of black due to the black mana symbol being used in its rules text. Fetch lands have a colorless color identity because they don't use any pips in their rules text, so while you are correct that you can run off color fetches, you cannot run off color shocks

  • @nobodystaco7366
    @nobodystaco7366 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dauthi Voidwalker's replacement effect does not apply to Aaron's Misty Rainforest or his March of swirling mist.

  • @Snskch3
    @Snskch3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Atraxa is awesome

  • @PsychoticSashimiS
    @PsychoticSashimiS ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, just recommend having some sort of backtrack playing

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcerer ปีที่แล้ว

    Insane openings on this one 😮

  • @MrJ03K3rR
    @MrJ03K3rR ปีที่แล้ว

    0:05 What game is Conjurer of Arktam from because that looks sick!

  • @spacenue2468
    @spacenue2468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Alex okay?

  • @trendinggames5078
    @trendinggames5078 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 22:08 Jim forgot to trigger Derevi ETB. He could have tapped the Felidar Gaurdian.

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  ปีที่แล้ว

      D: How did I miss that??

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSpikeFeeders Had lethal on the previous turn already. Could have either tap the dork for the swing with 5 or untap a land.
      Even without Derevi ETB it's still a kill since 5 attacks (token from attack) with 1 blocked just means you pay 1 mana for an another combat and will have 5 attackers in that combat. You don't need 5 attackers to go infinite, you can just pay the difference of untaps and Najeela activation with mana to get the ball rolling :p

  • @tangolino
    @tangolino ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish Shalai and Hallar did more. Second game that it doesn't do much

  • @dayman1740
    @dayman1740 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More Ob Nixilis gameplay? Say less.

  • @empil98
    @empil98 ปีที่แล้ว

    like 17.20 you play a jewled lotus and then it just disapeard? what did i miss

    • @alexmcgregor8658
      @alexmcgregor8658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A rewind that likely wasn't fully cut

  • @TheQueerLeaf
    @TheQueerLeaf ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @TheOnePhyrexian
    @TheOnePhyrexian ปีที่แล้ว

    Dauthi only counts opponents cards, so Aaron could exile his own

  • @MythrilShotgun
    @MythrilShotgun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is everyone trying to get a turn with Ob Nix? I don't blame 'em!

  • @abrahamdrinkin2534
    @abrahamdrinkin2534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I resolve an Atraxa GU it feels like cheating.

  • @Wesley-mt1sc
    @Wesley-mt1sc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried to go to y’all’s website to order stuff and it says I need a password 😢

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We currently have preorders available to our Patrons, and our shop will be reopened without a password later this week!

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 ปีที่แล้ว

    March doesn't go under dauthi it's opponent cards that go in

  • @billysmith8319
    @billysmith8319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should play Atraxa with Dream Halls then bounce her to your hand and draw your whole deck 😊 win every time

  • @drew941
    @drew941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Jim have the win on the turn he played Eldritch? Cast derevi, untap a land, attack Jerrry with everything.. That's 5 creatures, Jerry can only block 1, use untaps to activate najeela, attack jerry again now with no blockers, win

  • @ItsAlibae
    @ItsAlibae ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MORE MORE MORE MORE I NEED MORE

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/play/PLvuDaB_-KVNLosTUbNjIP4W6YugqLsl8M.html
      Here's more! Every game we've played this year!

  • @thevaultwalrus
    @thevaultwalrus ปีที่แล้ว

    like the preview

  • @devrev7173
    @devrev7173 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crypt

  • @duanebrown7384
    @duanebrown7384 ปีที่แล้ว

    GG!!!!

  • @cloaking111
    @cloaking111 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ob Nixilis, KekW

  • @רותםברקאי-ח9ס
    @רותםברקאי-ח9ס ปีที่แล้ว

    worst not baddest

  • @darkperihellion
    @darkperihellion หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every pods has players with too many counterspells only to stall the freaking game, boring asf to watch counterspell players.

  • @paddycondon9050
    @paddycondon9050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't he play All Will Be One from exile and go for the win? He opted to play Kederekt Parasite and moved All Will Be One into exile before his end step.

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silence

    • @paddycondon9050
      @paddycondon9050 ปีที่แล้ว

      @janmelantu7490 ...He played Kederekt Parasite then Magda?

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paddycondon9050 Ranger-Captain’s “Silence” effect is for noncreature spells. Parasite and Magda are creatures

  • @flyingtoastr
    @flyingtoastr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, this game is kinda emblematic for why I want Thoracle banned. Tons of back and forth, commanders doing cool things, swings in the game, and it all just comes to a screeching halt when someone plays the same old boring 2-card combo that's been seen over and over again. It's such a letdown that doesn't really feel exciting or have anything to do with the actual gameplan of the decks (no offense meant to Aaron of course, who is a consummate professional).
    Ban Thoracle, win doing cool stuff again!

  • @xardas149
    @xardas149 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly Jeremy played this entire game extremly pooly. I mean seriously he fed the bowmasters very unnesseary at 2 points and even if you want to defend this, the entire gameplan of "oh I will need 3 turns setup for the most obvious kiki combo attempt" that loses to the onboard Deathrite shaman is honestly a joke. He had zero need to discard that kiki in the first place. Always puts a damper on a video if 1 player is basically a bot and he did it to himself.
    Btw nice Overgrown Tomb in the Naya deck :D :D

    • @LaurenssShenanigans
      @LaurenssShenanigans ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always a disappointment when people cant keep their jerk comments to themselves but hey, you're probably used to being a disappointment.

  • @bigshrimpy
    @bigshrimpy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good games, definitely thought it was over 3 or 4 times lol