I was very happy to see Jimmy paying the taxes when he could’ve cast more without paying. It’s just so much advantage if you let people draw on every cast
It’s weird seeing you not play something that steals other people’s things. I feel like that the last few videos I’ve seen you in that’s all you’ve done lol
I take it everybody here is new to this channel? Josh has won plenty of them, sure, but he has definitely lost plenty of them as well. He even infamously lost *because* someone else had a Rhystic Study and he never paid the 1.
While someone should have paid for Josh’s study at some point. Jimmy was the clear threat for 90% of the game. Until the moment he won Josh did not appear to be a threat
@@graysonchristian2668 it matters not... most combo decks do not pose a threat untill the combo goes off... its simple every time you see a draw engine in a combo deck either destroy it or keep it in check
@@graysonchristian2668 Seasoned commander players learn board presence is not the only thing to take into account with threat assessment. 2 big creatures will take a while to kill everyone but a combo player or someone who can go off and do something like Josh did is a bigger threat with a full grip of cards. This is why threat assessment is often subjective and aggro is harder to play.
@@graysonchristian2668I play with people who have your mindset. They see big creatures and start panicking. Makes it easier for me to get my combos off while my opponents are worried about someone else’s board state.
He did also have a ridiculous amount of mana to spare. Didn't matter though when the other 2 couldn't afford to pay for Rhystic study otherwise they'd have played too slow against Jimmy so Josh got his draws anyway.
@@zsorens4570 I think Jimmy was the only one who played it right. The other two would have been slow against Jimmy, true...but the alternative is pretty much a 100% lose condition when you let someone draw more than a dozen cards.
@@DiscardatRandom I recently bought a rogues precon from Zendikar Rising. £20. Gonna play it against the £80 slivers Wizards are releasing. Notion Thief is in that deck and it shuts so many other decks down. Marneus Calgar couldn't benefit from token generation.
agreed, he draws 30 cards in blue, hes the threat, not Jimmy. But yeah if you do knock out his rhystic he just whines and doesnt invite you back soooooo...... :/
No way, another game where Josh plays a blue deck that draws cards and combos Man, he is such a cool and unique deckbuilder! And no-one saw his subtle, not obvious at all engine! How convenient for him!
I’ve learned that in multiplayer, pausing the game to all agree to pay the 1 the moment a Rhystic Study drops is usually the correct option. It’ll set you all at a disadvantage, but not as much as a bunch of cards.
@@jacobd1984 I agree but Josh is running a high 8 at a high 7 table the game feels weighted the fact nobody ran any board interaction or interruptions + Jimmy had a clear lead. Additionally the tables inability to play tutors and nature claims/force of vigor when 1 player has a 1 card value engine like rhystic study is something you need to have at least a couple answers to. The talk is great if the pod is casual but if its an archenemy or highpower setting then thats not happening from their perspective they were helping themselves by helping Josh which is an awful mindset.
He had more than enough mana to pay for it? I've seen dedicated land/ramp decks not capable of that much mana. Wow, the guy with as much mana as the table would have the rest of the game by turn 3 has no problem paying for Rhystic? Shocker.
@@weirdo82 why are you such a keyboard warrior on this? If people are complaining about Rhystic, it's probably because it's demented and not fun to watch
@@MrNoirocla That's funny, I can ask you keyboard warrior, the very same. You guys are literally whining that the players with less mana should have paid for Rhystic, while praising the person who had more than enough mana to pay for it. Seeing as reading comprehension isn't your forte, keyboard warrior, I'm not speaking positive of the card. I'm here addressing why you're praising the person who had *6 mana on turn TWO, while throwing a fit at the people who didn't have that much mana until the end.*
@@LouisKing995 But you guys keep conveniently ignoring that paying helps them lose *to Jimmy TOO.* Amy even stated, *in this very game,* that she's hoping Josh getting all his cards draws him to an answer for Jimmy. Jimmy had the board state. He was DEFINITELY the problem for 3/4 of the game. And you guys are mad that Amy and Kenji made a choice in a rock between a hard place situation.
I’m always the guy starting these videos thinking “Target Josh, he’s always the threat. No I don’t care that there is a 6 cost creature out on turn 2.” Haha
Congrats to Josh for the win. Jimmy played a great game. Kudos to him for paying for most of the Rhystic Study triggers. The other players basically handed the game to Josh with all the cards they gave him.
I want you to be playing a single three drop on turn 5 and tell me you aren't super behind and already loosing. They pay the 1 jimmy stays on top. The don't pay the 1 josh maybe draws an out or wins with combo. Only one of those options has a above 30% win rate. They did the best they could with what they had. Jimmy had 9 mana on turn 3. And never stopped ramping. Of course he could pay the 1 without hampering his game at all.
27:28 I just realized as he did that - Sieges don't target the opponent. And Teferi's Protection doesn't prevent attacks. So they can be put under the protection of a player who used Teferi's Protection and then attacked completely unhindered.
@@weirdo82 Alright, but has he ever won with Rhystic Study? I would like to see Josh win a game without having to resort using Rhystic Study! Basically, I want to see more Jank and less high-power plays on Command Zone. I love the personalities, just hate the meta they have for their shows.
@@NEPrincess Dude, literally watch the videos. The Command Zone is a decently aged channel, you know. And everyone there was using non jank cards. Jimmy had his damn *colorless 6 mana commander* out on turn two!
@@weirdo82 I do watch the videos. I understand that every player is not using jank. That is my problem. Shouldn't they want to connect with their fans more by playing decks that, idk, their fans can actually afford? To me, they feel more aloof in their gameplay than other content creators do and I don't think that helps them. I think that caters to a very specific audience. All I'm saying is that they could try harder to play less powerful stuff and if they want their viewers to feel like they can actually play with decks like theirs
I love these episodes so much❤️ But also, it feels like 80% of the episodes is just Josh winning 😅 I knew he was going to when they fed the rhystic that much.
Just get the endure enchantments deck. It’s one of the most solid precons. I’ve played it against some black monk/rat decks, Shelobs, some VERY expensive eldrazi decks with cards that sacrifice creatures and deals damage directly for the sacrificed creatures power, just by hitting my combo to non stop search my library, draw lands, make enchantments cost less, and add mana x value to the number of enchantments on my side enchantment CREATURES included, tonight, I had 15 enchantments down, due to low mana costs, and the ability to play out of my library and others if they attack, I had 15 floating mana alongside my 12 lands played due to specific cards allowing me to play one tapped and put one in hand. It’s filthy deck for 60 bucks. Well worth it. Nyx is the card that makes it phenomenal with his x mana per enchantment on the board.
The deck is about drawing cards and playing with your top deck revealed to choose which cards you’d like by saying land or no land, it’s a completely combo trigger heavy deck, it’s SO good. I have 600$ decks and I prefer the 60$ one I purchased. Crazy very well put together precon
(SPOILERS, don't read until you have watched the episode.) I think the Eldrazi deck looks insane. That deck has such a head start with all the mana accelerants. I just wonder what it has to do to actually get the finish in a game like this. The board kept growing and growing and looking more ominous, but in the end, Jimmy only managed to reduce his own life total and nobody else's. I wish there was a bit more interaction in the game. Amy really was the only one attempting to interact and slow down the board. The combo finish out of nowhere was pretty, but also a bit unfortunate, because I would've loved to see more from Amy's and Kenji's decks.
he didnt draw into any of his board wipes, All Is Dust, Ugin, The Spirit Dragon, and Calamity of the Titans would have cleaned up the game, also Amy should have targeted rhystic studies instead of wondrous crucible at that point in the game but the "let's gang up on strongest player" instinct got to her.
Colorless has a certain lack for interaction. Not any good targeted removal, best options that aren't super niche cost 5+ mana. Has plenty of board wipes, but the lower cost ones still blow up your own stuff. The ones that are one sided are all high mana cost. And every one knows that big dumb beaters don't finish games on their own. Needs either to have obscene synergies or flat out combo. Sure, Zhulodok is value town once he gets running, but it's VERY difficult to find colorless cards that will generate enough value to hold up your deck in the long run. So the decks that do win even semi consistently either tend to be turbo ramp into the Eldrazi Titans to close out games fast, or combo. Neither of which casuals enjoy much.
My prediction before I watch the episode: the rest of the table let's Josh draw cards and combo off as usual *Watches the show* Me: wow, just like last time
Do you watch every episode? I stopped years ago because of this…and funny enough the last two episodes I watched….Josh has done what he always did. Don’t think I’ll be watching again anymore haha.
@@thomaskiser3886 same!! I got so tired of everyone watching josh draw or build up his board (its his show, they arent going to make him look bad or he wont invite them back) and then he "wins" without ever really being challenged. Once I discovered this I stopped watching ever episode with him in the game, just not fun.
@@ravenclawgameing Only thing I can find is he had an MRI for a "mass" or aneurysm behind one of his eyes in spring 2019. It's possible that he needed to shave his head to have it removed or treated.
I see why a lot of people say commander players play no interactions. That rhystic shouldn't of had have lasted that long and that tax should've been paid.
That’s what bothers me sometimes. Everyone focuses on one player and no one realizes the engine they are feeding for another. It’s a balancing act, but it’s also don’t let one person get all their combo pieces in hand…
@@BlueGriffin20 yeah every time I see an engine getting started I will bring that player's life down or force their hand to use the cards they drew on me rather than let them draw into a win con
I stopped watching these guys a while ago, don’t get me wrong props to them for being so popular and I hope they continue to grow, I just prefer to watch the commander shows where the hosts like to change up their play styles, even try things they arnt used to. I saw Numot was playing so I tuned in, but it was the same as I remember, Josh basically plays the same deck every game just with a different commander, he def drops the rhystic more than anyone else, and since it’s such a low cmc card, it always takes over games early, just not my cup of tea but I’m sure a lot of people do enjoy, anyway, was nice to see Numot, now on to the other commander shows 😁
Early Rhystic from Josh, wonder if it's going to be one of those where he just draws a bunch of cards and then they all lose. ...yup. GOOD ON YA JIMMY FOR PAYING.
@@semicolon_cancer1243 Did you not hear them say things like "this is all I can do" and "I can't not advance my board" several times?! Also, did you totally miss the point of *Jimmy casting spell after spell, not even being hindered in paying for Rhystic Study?* Again. He could add to his board AND pay for Rhystic. They couldn't, without not paying for Rhystic.
Cannot wait for the Eldrazi Precon upgrade! Hoping Ashlen will present it as she did the Kozilek deck a few years ago and this precon could be similar in upgrades :)
Jimmy was the only one who even tried to play around the Rhystic study, giving Josh only 2 draws. Amy and Kenji played as though it wasn't even there giving Josh 4-5 cards each. Shockingly, a combo focused deck when allowed to draw 11 cards in the space of 3 turns does tend to be able to win the game. You know the bit that bugs me though? On every podcast that they mention, talk about or evaluate cards like Rhystic Study they reinforce that you should *always* pay the tax. Yes, it slows you down. However, it is better that you slow down than you ramp another player straight to their win condition because you can't be bothered properly assessing threat levels. After the first rotation of the board with Rhystic down Amy even picks up on it, asking Josh how many cards he has in hand. "Eight" he answers. That's nearly as many cards as everyone else at the table combined. And what do they do? In the next cycle Amy and Kenji draw him a total of 6 cards due to not paying.
I can't believe I keep seeing this, but you guys do know Jimmy had more than enough mana, really early in the game, to play a lot of spells AND pay for Rhystic, right? He basically had as much mana as the table combined by turn 6(at the latest).
@@AmazonianTough call really. Even if Kykar was not a combo deck, tons of card draw paired with a commander able to generate tons of mana never ends well. However, playing slow by paying taxes would have probably given the win to Jimmy since no one would be able to answer his board. I think you guys played fine
And two of the decks were new pre con commanders. Kinda odd. I guess they were able to pick two commanders from the set too, but eh… would have been nice to se what they could do with a limited pool instead of their usual toys.
I'm a big fan of the show, this set just makes me sad because of how badly Wizards has priced me out of buying it. The set is insanely expensive and times are super hard right now. I'm just upset because of how pretty the new art is on the reprints
As soon as Amy said I'm going to accelerate the game I was like. Yep you little just handed Josh the game. You let him get card draw and that's how he won. Has no one seen this show before? Anytime you allow Josh to get car draw he basically wins like she gave up before the game really even started because Jimmy was going off on the first couple turns and she didn't like her hand and have anything really to play. So she's like I give up Josh. You can have the game
Fully agreed, it's a recurring theme. Josh sets up a card draw engine, people ignore it too long for some reason, he wins. The only times I saw this get countered, is when his excessive drawing was turned against him (like with mill, Altar of Dementia got him that way twice). I always wonder in how far these episodes are scripted, since I find it highly unlikely that no-one knows this by now.
Its a bit of a tough situation, she needed to catch up to Jimmy otherwise he might run away with the game so if she plays with 1 or 2 less mana each turn to pay the rhystic study she doesn't do what she needs to in order to get going and just falls behind miserably.
I'd love a play through with the 4 decks as is, out of the box, and then a different episode with the "upgraded" versions. It's really fun to watch how you all play the commander decks out of the box.
Really hope this is better than the last episode gameplay wise Edit: gameplay wasnt as bad, but still cringeworthy, i think im gonna pass on you guys until it gets better...
@@loxdoom the kingmaking this time wasnt as obvious but still major bs, they have huge powerlevel mismatches and dont even focus the strong deck at the table smh my head
@@TheOriginalIBT unfortunately they switched focus in the very end, when it didnt matter anymore. The simple fact that josh didnt have to worry getting countered cause he was the only one with blue. Rhystic should always be payed especially with him
Yep, once again an absolute shame to see Josh bringing a massive power drop early and everyone just ignoring it...The threat analysis and recognition is just shockingly poor. Amy even called it out after the first rotation with Rhystic study when she asked how many cards Josh had and he answered "eight" - that should have set alarm bells of everywhere. Instead, Amy and Kenji let him draw another 6 cards between them on the very next rotation.
As someone who's very first commander deck being Zacama & still my favorite commander to this day, I agree I'm confused on whether to keep using my Judge Promo or buy the new art which is marvelous
@@mtgcalix8977still pretty far from cedh.. and they play fairly basic stuff in Game Knights still. Extra turns is imo more representative of real gameplay.
@@mtgcalix8977 Bruh, this channel isn't even close to cedh at all. Their games usually take a lot of turns and it's just battlecruiser mtg for the most part, until one of them plays the broken crap wotc put in their commander precons.
Rhystic Study should always be KOS the 2nd it hits the board. Or at least pay the 1 every chance you get until you find an answer. Being down 1 mana hurts less then letting the player draw an extra card.
I LOVE the reprints and cards but HATE the prices. I am skipping the entire release and using the $400 I normally spend on buying the $ingle$ instead. It’s a shame - my FOMO is going off like crazy - but it’s just not cost effective.😢
Zhulodok is much easier to cast though and ideally you’d get card advantage from the cascade. Definitely not as reliable but seems like it will make for more fun games
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And this, boys and girls, is why you follow uncle Jimmy's example and pay your taxes. Else, you'll get clobbered.
Jimmy tried SO hard to pay those taxes in the start
I was very happy to see Jimmy paying the taxes when he could’ve cast more without paying. It’s just so much advantage if you let people draw on every cast
Kudos to Jimmy for trying to keep that Rhystic Study in check.
Thank you so much for having me on this episode, and for giving me an opportunity to play ABZAN ENCHANTMENTS! It's like DARK SELESNYA.
I cant wait to play the deck myself, and to upgrade it with Populate and more.
You mean, 'Edgy Selesnya'?
Selesnya, but with extra edge
Brawl Stars is my jam! Thanks Amy another dope deck!
It’s weird seeing you not play something that steals other people’s things. I feel like that the last few videos I’ve seen you in that’s all you’ve done lol
never let Josh draw that many cards.
Anyone
And certainly not the storm deck...
Risky study makes games boring to watch
Ban rhysitc study…
I thought you couldn’t play a land second main phase if you played one your first main phase or did I miss something on the table?
The moment they let josh draw cards almost everytime with ristich study I was like: josh is gonna win this isn't he.
Josh always wins.
@@StandYourGroundTV that is also my feeling
Someone needs to challenge Josh to not play a value pile for once, that or play more interaction.
Every time unfortunately. If anyone is drawing a ridiculous amount of cards I assume they are the threat 90% of the time
I take it everybody here is new to this channel? Josh has won plenty of them, sure, but he has definitely lost plenty of them as well. He even infamously lost *because* someone else had a Rhystic Study and he never paid the 1.
Jimmy casually dropping a six cost 7/4 on turn two with no opposing creatures on board. Jesus Christ.
And He loses anyway lol
@@mcbescheiden725 Well, it's Jimmy.
@@mcbescheiden725 That's what happens when you get too strong too fast: the opponents gang up on you until you start looking less threatening.
@@DarkEinherjar To be fair, he didint have really good fallowup. No big Eldrazi etc. , and other decks where really powerfull too.
@@MareczqZglos Yeah he sadly but Kozilek at the bottom with his first cascade
On this episode of “Josh wins games”, jimmy plays something scary and gets targeted; Josh draws 30 cards and wins.
For real. I wanna see the total stats of how many each host and guest have won. Josh has to be the top
so, same as usual
Fr that happens every time 😭
Hard to lose when only Jimmy pays your Rhystic Study triggers.
I'm glad someone said it lol. Such riveting gameplay
The more ive played magic the more ive learned threat assessment doesnt exist here
While someone should have paid for Josh’s study at some point.
Jimmy was the clear threat for 90% of the game. Until the moment he won Josh did not appear to be a threat
@@graysonchristian2668 it matters not... most combo decks do not pose a threat untill the combo goes off... its simple every time you see a draw engine in a combo deck either destroy it or keep it in check
@@graysonchristian2668
Seasoned commander players learn board presence is not the only thing to take into account with threat assessment. 2 big creatures will take a while to kill everyone but a combo player or someone who can go off and do something like Josh did is a bigger threat with a full grip of cards. This is why threat assessment is often subjective and aggro is harder to play.
@@graysonchristian2668I play with people who have your mindset. They see big creatures and start panicking. Makes it easier for me to get my combos off while my opponents are worried about someone else’s board state.
Jimmy getting more mana by turn three than most other games is the greatest thing ever
Jimmy hates letting Josh drawing cards I don’t blame him
He did also have a ridiculous amount of mana to spare. Didn't matter though when the other 2 couldn't afford to pay for Rhystic study otherwise they'd have played too slow against Jimmy so Josh got his draws anyway.
@@zsorens4570 I think Jimmy was the only one who played it right. The other two would have been slow against Jimmy, true...but the alternative is pretty much a 100% lose condition when you let someone draw more than a dozen cards.
Rhystic Study basically reads "Spells you cast cost 1 more to cast".
This is why notion thief is overhated
@@DiscardatRandom I recently bought a rogues precon from Zendikar Rising. £20. Gonna play it against the £80 slivers Wizards are releasing.
Notion Thief is in that deck and it shuts so many other decks down. Marneus Calgar couldn't benefit from token generation.
Jimmy taking damage to deny Josh a Rhystic trigger... A TRUE champion of the people.
Tonight on Extra Gear:
Josh draws cards
Jimmy ramps
Amy plays enchantments
And Kenji lets Josh draw more cards
I wish more people would treat Josh as the threat 😂
But then they have to hear him whine when he gets his combos shut down lol
He just sits back somewhat casually until a turn where he just goes off
@@Joshbobjovihe embodies the magic scene so well
They don’t even need game memory, we have video evidence why they should.
agreed, he draws 30 cards in blue, hes the threat, not Jimmy. But yeah if you do knock out his rhystic he just whines and doesnt invite you back soooooo...... :/
No way, another game where Josh plays a blue deck that draws cards and combos
Man, he is such a cool and unique deckbuilder!
And no-one saw his subtle, not obvious at all engine! How convenient for him!
The one thing I learned from watching game knights is not allow Josh to draw cards no matter what. He just got full combo just because of RS.
they thought that Josh could draw something to handle Jimmy.
But Josh 100% would play the same pattern as always: go big in one turn. How engaging.
I learned that you need to have permanent and enchantment removal in your deck
I’ve learned that in multiplayer, pausing the game to all agree to pay the 1 the moment a Rhystic Study drops is usually the correct option. It’ll set you all at a disadvantage, but not as much as a bunch of cards.
@@jacobd1984 I agree but Josh is running a high 8 at a high 7 table the game feels weighted the fact nobody ran any board interaction or interruptions + Jimmy had a clear lead. Additionally the tables inability to play tutors and nature claims/force of vigor when 1 player has a 1 card value engine like rhystic study is something you need to have at least a couple answers to. The talk is great if the pod is casual but if its an archenemy or highpower setting then thats not happening from their perspective they were helping themselves by helping Josh which is an awful mindset.
Nice job guys, who would have thought letting Josh draw 22 cards in a Timmy combo deck would result in him going off 😂
A Timmy combo deck? It's not a Timmy deck in the slightest, he was playing most of the efficient things competitive kykar will run.
@@spudster8887 100% Josh is a Johnny Combo Player like myself
@@DrkNinja_ yup, and people sling around the phrases not knowing what they mean. But yeah I like playing this way myself, combo is the best
You clearly don't know what Timmy means.
At this point Rhystic Study should have an alternate art with Josh in it.
And this is why you pay the 1. Respect to Jimmy for refusing to bow to the tyranny of our Rhystic overlords.
He had more than enough mana to pay for it? I've seen dedicated land/ramp decks not capable of that much mana.
Wow, the guy with as much mana as the table would have the rest of the game by turn 3 has no problem paying for Rhystic? Shocker.
@@weirdo82 why are you such a keyboard warrior on this?
If people are complaining about Rhystic, it's probably because it's demented and not fun to watch
@@MrNoirocla That's funny, I can ask you keyboard warrior, the very same.
You guys are literally whining that the players with less mana should have paid for Rhystic, while praising the person who had more than enough mana to pay for it.
Seeing as reading comprehension isn't your forte, keyboard warrior, I'm not speaking positive of the card. I'm here addressing why you're praising the person who had *6 mana on turn TWO, while throwing a fit at the people who didn't have that much mana until the end.*
@@weirdo82Everyone should pay no matter what. “But if I pay I’ll fall behiiiiind” and if you don’t play you’ll just lose lol
@@LouisKing995 But you guys keep conveniently ignoring that paying helps them lose *to Jimmy TOO.* Amy even stated, *in this very game,* that she's hoping Josh getting all his cards draws him to an answer for Jimmy.
Jimmy had the board state. He was DEFINITELY the problem for 3/4 of the game. And you guys are mad that Amy and Kenji made a choice in a rock between a hard place situation.
Aaand Rhystic study wins the game
Oh no the guy who drew 20 cards with RS won the game, what a surprise...
I’m always the guy starting these videos thinking “Target Josh, he’s always the threat. No I don’t care that there is a 6 cost creature out on turn 2.” Haha
Congrats to Josh for the win. Jimmy played a great game. Kudos to him for paying for most of the Rhystic Study triggers. The other players basically handed the game to Josh with all the cards they gave him.
Live and learn I guess.
I want you to be playing a single three drop on turn 5 and tell me you aren't super behind and already loosing. They pay the 1 jimmy stays on top. The don't pay the 1 josh maybe draws an out or wins with combo. Only one of those options has a above 30% win rate. They did the best they could with what they had. Jimmy had 9 mana on turn 3. And never stopped ramping. Of course he could pay the 1 without hampering his game at all.
Damn you know your bathroom break is about about to turn into a full break when they drop a new command zone episode
27:28 I just realized as he did that - Sieges don't target the opponent. And Teferi's Protection doesn't prevent attacks. So they can be put under the protection of a player who used Teferi's Protection and then attacked completely unhindered.
@@eleutheros7216Teferi's Protection does not phase out the player.
I would be fun to see Josh challenge himself and play a deck that does NOT have Rhystic Study in it, just to see if he can do it
He has, many times.
@@weirdo82 Alright, but has he ever won with Rhystic Study? I would like to see Josh win a game without having to resort using Rhystic Study!
Basically, I want to see more Jank and less high-power plays on Command Zone. I love the personalities, just hate the meta they have for their shows.
@@NEPrincess Dude, literally watch the videos. The Command Zone is a decently aged channel, you know. And everyone there was using non jank cards. Jimmy had his damn *colorless 6 mana commander* out on turn two!
@@NEPrincess Also, you do know he won the last extra turns game with *Gyome,* right? As in, a black/green foods deck?
@@weirdo82 I do watch the videos. I understand that every player is not using jank. That is my problem. Shouldn't they want to connect with their fans more by playing decks that, idk, their fans can actually afford? To me, they feel more aloof in their gameplay than other content creators do and I don't think that helps them. I think that caters to a very specific audience.
All I'm saying is that they could try harder to play less powerful stuff and if they want their viewers to feel like they can actually play with decks like theirs
I love these episodes so much❤️ But also, it feels like 80% of the episodes is just Josh winning 😅 I knew he was going to when they fed the rhystic that much.
After too many games where Jimmy doesn't get any lands, it's nice to see his deck make up for it for once
Yeah. I just wish he didn't get taken out so early. I would have loved to see him really get rolling with that deck.
josh plays rhystic study and wins again what a surprise...
Everytime hes playing its the same thing with Josh. That RS should've been destroyed way earlier and everybody should've paid the taxes.
Yea-boring
thanks for the spoiler
@@thomaskiser3886this
@@Godimus17 he wins every gameplay they post it's not a spoiler anymore lol
So wait... You tell me that the person who drew a ton of cards with an unchecked Rhystic Study won the game? WOW! 🤯
Jimmy, the king of getting stuck on mana on screen, trying to ramp? This is going to be interesting.
No amount of advertisement is going to get me to buy a €500 booster box
But wouldn't you love to give all your hard earned money to WotC for couple pieces of cardboard?
@@mmorkinism Depending on the ratio of cards to money, I would
@@zacharycruz1511 I like to, just for the fun of competing with my friend. But not for that price tag. Buying a precon will already be hefty
Just get the endure enchantments deck. It’s one of the most solid precons. I’ve played it against some black monk/rat decks, Shelobs, some VERY expensive eldrazi decks with cards that sacrifice creatures and deals damage directly for the sacrificed creatures power, just by hitting my combo to non stop search my library, draw lands, make enchantments cost less, and add mana x value to the number of enchantments on my side enchantment CREATURES included, tonight, I had 15 enchantments down, due to low mana costs, and the ability to play out of my library and others if they attack, I had 15 floating mana alongside my 12 lands played due to specific cards allowing me to play one tapped and put one in hand. It’s filthy deck for 60 bucks. Well worth it. Nyx is the card that makes it phenomenal with his x mana per enchantment on the board.
The deck is about drawing cards and playing with your top deck revealed to choose which cards you’d like by saying land or no land, it’s a completely combo trigger heavy deck, it’s SO good. I have 600$ decks and I prefer the 60$ one I purchased. Crazy very well put together precon
(SPOILERS, don't read until you have watched the episode.)
I think the Eldrazi deck looks insane. That deck has such a head start with all the mana accelerants. I just wonder what it has to do to actually get the finish in a game like this. The board kept growing and growing and looking more ominous, but in the end, Jimmy only managed to reduce his own life total and nobody else's. I wish there was a bit more interaction in the game. Amy really was the only one attempting to interact and slow down the board. The combo finish out of nowhere was pretty, but also a bit unfortunate, because I would've loved to see more from Amy's and Kenji's decks.
One sided board wipe could have done it, but I think it’s just a beat down deck clearing targets etc.
he didnt draw into any of his board wipes, All Is Dust, Ugin, The Spirit Dragon, and Calamity of the Titans would have cleaned up the game, also Amy should have targeted rhystic studies instead of wondrous crucible at that point in the game but the "let's gang up on strongest player" instinct got to her.
Colorless has a certain lack for interaction. Not any good targeted removal, best options that aren't super niche cost 5+ mana. Has plenty of board wipes, but the lower cost ones still blow up your own stuff. The ones that are one sided are all high mana cost.
And every one knows that big dumb beaters don't finish games on their own. Needs either to have obscene synergies or flat out combo. Sure, Zhulodok is value town once he gets running, but it's VERY difficult to find colorless cards that will generate enough value to hold up your deck in the long run. So the decks that do win even semi consistently either tend to be turbo ramp into the Eldrazi Titans to close out games fast, or combo. Neither of which casuals enjoy much.
Who would have thought that letting the rhystic studies controller draw that many cards was a bad idea?
My prediction before I watch the episode: the rest of the table let's Josh draw cards and combo off as usual
*Watches the show*
Me: wow, just like last time
Who would've thought?
Do you watch every episode? I stopped years ago because of this…and funny enough the last two episodes I watched….Josh has done what he always did. Don’t think I’ll be watching again anymore haha.
@@thomaskiser3886 same!! I got so tired of everyone watching josh draw or build up his board (its his show, they arent going to make him look bad or he wont invite them back) and then he "wins" without ever really being challenged. Once I discovered this I stopped watching ever episode with him in the game, just not fun.
Love to see Kenji back!!!!!!
What happened to his hair
@@ravenclawgameing Only thing I can find is he had an MRI for a "mass" or aneurysm behind one of his eyes in spring 2019. It's possible that he needed to shave his head to have it removed or treated.
I follow his twitch stream. He's had his head shaved for years.
@@Twistedsage42His last appearance on Game Knights was 2019 so people that don't follow him like us would be surprised to see the bald head.
Captin baldie has a new brother
I see why a lot of people say commander players play no interactions. That rhystic shouldn't of had have lasted that long and that tax should've been paid.
That’s what bothers me sometimes. Everyone focuses on one player and no one realizes the engine they are feeding for another. It’s a balancing act, but it’s also don’t let one person get all their combo pieces in hand…
@@BlueGriffin20 yeah every time I see an engine getting started I will bring that player's life down or force their hand to use the cards they drew on me rather than let them draw into a win con
I stopped watching these guys a while ago, don’t get me wrong props to them for being so popular and I hope they continue to grow, I just prefer to watch the commander shows where the hosts like to change up their play styles, even try things they arnt used to. I saw Numot was playing so I tuned in, but it was the same as I remember, Josh basically plays the same deck every game just with a different commander, he def drops the rhystic more than anyone else, and since it’s such a low cmc card, it always takes over games early, just not my cup of tea but I’m sure a lot of people do enjoy, anyway, was nice to see Numot, now on to the other commander shows 😁
I just re-watched an old video and was wondering when Kenji would be on again. Good to see him back!
Early Rhystic from Josh, wonder if it's going to be one of those where he just draws a bunch of cards and then they all lose.
...yup. GOOD ON YA JIMMY FOR PAYING.
Jesus you guys are dim. He had tons of mana to flood his board and pay.
They did not.
@@weirdo82 secret is to not play into that... Choose other stuff to cast where you CAN pay.
@@semicolon_cancer1243 Did you not hear them say things like "this is all I can do" and "I can't not advance my board" several times?!
Also, did you totally miss the point of *Jimmy casting spell after spell, not even being hindered in paying for Rhystic Study?*
Again. He could add to his board AND pay for Rhystic. They couldn't, without not paying for Rhystic.
I'm so glad that Amy got invited to this episode, I love her videos and lives! ♥
thats crazy, sadly, this set is too expensive for anyone but the rich
At least it's not as bad as Magic 30 where you had 4 boosters for $1,000.
You can always proxy!
@@jacobsroadvibes6012 absolutely, my deck on moxfield would cost me 3600$. i got it for 72$ in all foils :3
Just buy singles
Cannot wait for the Eldrazi Precon upgrade! Hoping Ashlen will present it as she did the Kozilek deck a few years ago and this precon could be similar in upgrades :)
You and me both m8
She is no longer a part of The Command Zone as far as I know, so unless they invite her as a guest I find it highly unlikely.
Yay! She's back!
Colorless mana rocks and colorless lands are Jimmy's new way of making up for missing land drops...I like it
Jimmy's response to Kenji's Etali, Primal Conquerer was insanely smooth.
"Im tired of saying I pay the 1"
After paying for Rhystic Study a single time.
Man that early game Jimmy's Deck was popping off that was insane
Stuff like this showcases how card advantage wins games
Jimmy was the only one who even tried to play around the Rhystic study, giving Josh only 2 draws. Amy and Kenji played as though it wasn't even there giving Josh 4-5 cards each. Shockingly, a combo focused deck when allowed to draw 11 cards in the space of 3 turns does tend to be able to win the game.
You know the bit that bugs me though? On every podcast that they mention, talk about or evaluate cards like Rhystic Study they reinforce that you should *always* pay the tax. Yes, it slows you down. However, it is better that you slow down than you ramp another player straight to their win condition because you can't be bothered properly assessing threat levels.
After the first rotation of the board with Rhystic down Amy even picks up on it, asking Josh how many cards he has in hand. "Eight" he answers. That's nearly as many cards as everyone else at the table combined. And what do they do? In the next cycle Amy and Kenji draw him a total of 6 cards due to not paying.
I think you assumed we knew it was a combo deck. I have a Kykar deck, mine is Superfriends, and the other version is Vehicles.
I can't believe I keep seeing this, but you guys do know Jimmy had more than enough mana, really early in the game, to play a lot of spells AND pay for Rhystic, right? He basically had as much mana as the table combined by turn 6(at the latest).
@@AmazonianTough call really.
Even if Kykar was not a combo deck, tons of card draw paired with a commander able to generate tons of mana never ends well.
However, playing slow by paying taxes would have probably given the win to Jimmy since no one would be able to answer his board.
I think you guys played fine
The threat assessment was based on board state, where players should have been focussed on Josh’s card advantage as the primary threat.
"This set is meant to be drafted, so we... didn't draft it, enjoy these decks we designed instead!"
And two of the decks were new pre con commanders. Kinda odd. I guess they were able to pick two commanders from the set too, but eh… would have been nice to se what they could do with a limited pool instead of their usual toys.
I'm a big fan of the show, this set just makes me sad because of how badly Wizards has priced me out of buying it. The set is insanely expensive and times are super hard right now. I'm just upset because of how pretty the new art is on the reprints
Wish game knights had more exciting gameplay. Every game is decided by who casts Rhystic Study
How exciting!
Ya know, I feel like Jimmy may have had a head start in this game…
Kenji helped me with my first draft win, thanks a lot, so glad he was invited❤
As soon as Amy said I'm going to accelerate the game I was like. Yep you little just handed Josh the game. You let him get card draw and that's how he won. Has no one seen this show before? Anytime you allow Josh to get car draw he basically wins like she gave up before the game really even started because Jimmy was going off on the first couple turns and she didn't like her hand and have anything really to play. So she's like I give up Josh. You can have the game
I mean, in fairness at that point Jimmy was archenemy and giving Josh card draw was also a way to get him an answer to Jimmy that she doesn't have.
Fully agreed, it's a recurring theme. Josh sets up a card draw engine, people ignore it too long for some reason, he wins. The only times I saw this get countered, is when his excessive drawing was turned against him (like with mill, Altar of Dementia got him that way twice). I always wonder in how far these episodes are scripted, since I find it highly unlikely that no-one knows this by now.
Its a bit of a tough situation, she needed to catch up to Jimmy otherwise he might run away with the game so if she plays with 1 or 2 less mana each turn to pay the rhystic study she doesn't do what she needs to in order to get going and just falls behind miserably.
Bro it’s edited to shit, there’s no coincidence that every game Josh gets RS and every game no one removes it. Ever.
5:05 the editor managed to use Josh's laughter when he picked a laugh-track for Josh's joke
Josh plays Rhystic Study on curve. Ok video's over, next
Very explosive episode. Loved it ! Please, invite Amy and Kenji more often. They rock !
man, I swear Jimmy cracks me up! "this is good for everyone!" and jimmy is like - "ehhh" hahahahahaha
That engine josh built with Caetus, mondrak and Jeskai's ascendancy was awesome. I love Caetus's ability to give your noncreature spells convoke.
Is Kenji doing ok? Nice to see him back.
I'd love a play through with the 4 decks as is, out of the box, and then a different episode with the "upgraded" versions. It's really fun to watch how you all play the commander decks out of the box.
Great guests love both of their content!
ive been watching nummot so much recently, thank you for showing one of my other favorite players of magic to play with you :)
AMY!!! Clicked on the video before reading the full description and omg what a sick surprise!!
hello it is me
Jimmy always getting focused, almost always does great but gets ganged up on by the entire table lmaoo
It should be an unwritten rule at this point, if Josh or Rachel are in the game, they are by default the archnemesis
agreed! lol I love rachel though she wins by more than card draw, shes got very different decks and styles every episode its so much fun :)
Josh playing Rhystic Study?!?!? WOAH He's never done such a skilled play before!!!! :0
Really hope this is better than the last episode gameplay wise
Edit: gameplay wasnt as bad, but still cringeworthy, i think im gonna pass on you guys until it gets better...
What do you think now, they let josh win again
@@loxdoom the kingmaking this time wasnt as obvious but still major bs, they have huge powerlevel mismatches and dont even focus the strong deck at the table smh my head
@@TheOriginalIBT unfortunately they switched focus in the very end, when it didnt matter anymore. The simple fact that josh didnt have to worry getting countered cause he was the only one with blue. Rhystic should always be payed especially with him
Yep, once again an absolute shame to see Josh bringing a massive power drop early and everyone just ignoring it...The threat analysis and recognition is just shockingly poor. Amy even called it out after the first rotation with Rhystic study when she asked how many cards Josh had and he answered "eight" - that should have set alarm bells of everywhere. Instead, Amy and Kenji let him draw another 6 cards between them on the very next rotation.
Wild I was just wondering when Kenji would be back. Great to see Amy!!!
Extremely proud of Jimmy for paying the 1 for Rhystic Study. I feel most magic online content people never pay and it just boggles my mind.
What a fun game, and it was awesome to see Amy!
More episodes with Amy!! 🙌
Nice seeing Kenji. OG guest
Loved seeing Amy the Amazonian. Bring her back for more.
jimmy casting all those spells but still paying the 1 was amaxing
Zacama will always be a based commander
As someone who's very first commander deck being Zacama & still my favorite commander to this day, I agree
I'm confused on whether to keep using my Judge Promo or buy the new art which is marvelous
@@ammonaustin9081 as a fellow judge promo owner there is no wrong answer. All Zacamas are perfect
Rhystic study man. The power!!!
Once upon a time there was a time when command Zone actually did the Precon gameplays
But josh couldnt play his op combo decks and outclass everyone at the table then :(
@@TheOriginalIBT tbh i Miss the Precon Times . Was the only Reason i started To watch the Channel. Back when it wasnt almost cedh
@@mtgcalix8977still pretty far from cedh.. and they play fairly basic stuff in Game Knights still. Extra turns is imo more representative of real gameplay.
@@mtgcalix8977 Bruh, this channel isn't even close to cedh at all. Their games usually take a lot of turns and it's just battlecruiser mtg for the most part, until one of them plays the broken crap wotc put in their commander precons.
@@tonysmith9905 right lmao most extra turns play like 4 removal spells the whole 40m episode
it is weird that they play fast mana though
Rhystic Study should always be KOS the 2nd it hits the board. Or at least pay the 1 every chance you get until you find an answer. Being down 1 mana hurts less then letting the player draw an extra card.
What a game! Josh definitely benefitted from Jimmy being so scary
"Hang on, I gotta shuffle" ok, that spot actually got me to giggle
Jimmy finally overcomes his land troubles by filling his deck with mana rocks and gets to 7 mana on turn 2
Superhero Tier supporter here. LOVE your content. Keep it up!!
“I may be the only person to love drawing cards more than Josh.”
*Draws 0 extra cards while Josh draws a million*
The only way any of us will ever see these 4 deck play against each other. thank god for youtube!!
this game can be summarized in a few words. "who were the guest again ? "
You can see the look of concern on everybody's face when Jimmy doing this thing at the beginning turn 1 through 4
Jimmy made up for all his missed land drops in the first two turns of this game.
"This set is *meant* to be drafted... which is why it's $12.50 a pack."
I LOVE the reprints and cards but HATE the prices. I am skipping the entire release and using the $400 I normally spend on buying the $ingle$ instead. It’s a shame - my FOMO is going off like crazy - but it’s just not cost effective.😢
First time watching any of your vids and just wanna say... the tokens look amazing.
Sad that Slivers didn't make an appearance on this episode.
Oh the synergy!!! Great Gans. Man Jimmy was going off there! That ending tho!!!
Can’t wait to build my own Eldrazi deck with Zhulodok
Kozilek the great distortion is better. See how Jimmy was empty handed? That zulodok. Kozi gets you a full 7.
Zhulodok is much easier to cast though and ideally you’d get card advantage from the cascade. Definitely not as reliable but seems like it will make for more fun games
Great match as always, masterpiece deck building and driving by Josh
Great episode! And a good reminder that you should always target the Rhystic Study player :)
19:19 "Josh you may draw"
"This is the best thing that's ever happened ever"
I love the gameplay but man, Josh has to have the most similar gameplay every game.
A refreshing come-from-behind Josh dub