Holy crap. Your intro gives me so much nostalgia. I've been a viewer for almost 5 maybe 6 years and honestly, I would spend hours and hours watching your reviews. I still come back to them because they are so incredibly entertaining.
The "you were in the DoomBox Realm ALL ALONGGGG!" twist would work in a more subtle movie. It'd be kind of like Dark City (or, like, the Madoka movie) if weird background things started happening and went uncommented upon, gradually ramping up in intensity until a big reveal maybe 2/3rds of the way through, that'd be pretty neat. Honestly, imaging a movie that had more sympathetic investigators gradually realize the box had already been opened, in a movie that maybe wasn't even billed as Hellraiser until the end credits or something. That's a twist that wouldn't really work in the age of the internet, but I think it'd be neato.
I have to argue a bit about what you said about the cenobites not originally being sexual beings , yes some of them ( including the one pinhead is based on) are sexless but the one that originally takes Frank is very clearly female and it is described very graphically. Also the cenobites through time have blurred the lines between pain and pleasure so much that the confuse one for the other, they think they are giving the summoner exactly what they truly desire.
The reason why Hellraiser elements feel so out of place and forced into this at the last minute is because that is precisely what happened. This movie was not originally meant to be a Hellraiser entry, most (if not all) of the script was already written as a stand alone effort when for some reason it was decided to tack Pinhead and the rest to the plot. Thus the disaster we see before us.
I know I am reading WAY too much into it as a viewer but Imagine if instead of an original movie given the Hellraiser makeover, this was meant to be an actual Hellraiser movie showing what actually happens to the people who open the box, the thing that happens after they get sucked into the box by the chains and such We got a good look at the Cenobites dimension in 2 and this could've been an expansion on it
Wow. I have no memory of watching this movie, but I do remember being scarred as a kid by that first scene with the wire twins digging under his chest skin. Thanks for that 😬
To be honest I loved that movie when I was younger but only because I didn't knew about the Hellraiser franchise. I thought the story was about a detective who's going insane because of all the cocaine he's doing and because the case he's on is too much to deal for him. Something like Jacob's ladder only not as good :P
I just discovered your channel and have loved catching up on with your “Movie Review” playlist. Great videos! Very entertaining. Keep up the great work!
I think Deusdaecon is right and I’m positive that this was originally supposed to be a “dirty detective falls prey to demonic forces” film and the Hellraiser elements were added at the last minute.
The only thing missing from this film are two short scenes at the beginning and end. The Hellpriest (Pinhead) clocking in and out like the sheepdog/Wile E. Coyote in Looney Toons.
This has become a weird staple of horror nowadays: jerks we're supposed to care about after horrible things happen to them. That's not horror if the characters aren't allowed to have a single redeeming quality. Then they're just as cartoonish as pure-as-the-driven-snow characters.
The guys a dick yeah but I think he’s actually really watchable. The most he does is cheat on his wife and do coke. In what world does that equate to it being ok to being mentally tortured for forever and having to watch everyone he cares about get brutally murdered? I actually liked the character and if you didn’t ok you won’t like the movie but he’s not a terrible pos either. The movie he’s constantly trying to figure out who’s taking the fingers of children and that’s why he’s not giving attention to his wife and daughter. It’s also shown in the therapy session how much he thinks innocence is portrayed in children and how much kids mean to him. So my point is he’s not just some unlikable asshole, I feel like plenty of people have cheated on their wives and it’s like what these people are unlikable assholes who don’t deserve to be critically analyzed like any character? He’s a flawed character, it’s part of what makes the movie interesting. Silent hill 2 is a great example of having a protagonist that you learn later on is kind of a pos but you still like him and are emotionally attached to him anyway. Or for more of a film example how about clockwork orange? Alex is a complete pos in that movie yet you care about him the entire way through anyway.
Oh and as far as redeeming qualities he did have one, he was trying to fucking save a child who were getting their fingers cut off! How is that not a redeeming factor? And it’s what drives the whole plot too!
Throughout the course of this video i slowly began to remember that I have actually watched this movie before. I must've completely erased it from my mind.
Heh. This is actually one of my favorite movies, but I enjoyed your video nonetheless. I'm not invested in the movie being consistent with other Hellraiser films, so I can enjoy it for what it is.
The script for this movie was actually written with no Hellraiser connection, at all, and then they changed it into a Pinhead related entry. I'm not sure if the entire script was already written when they decided to switch gears but I do know this movie was not originally meant to be a Hellraiser movie and it really shows.
I liked it, too. Well, kinda. It goes beyond then just physical torture by Pinhead and the cenobites and shows us the psychological terror as well. Even if poorly executed, we get to see what can happen when you temper with the box and how you can end up in your own personal hell. It is named the inferno after all. Does it stray away from original Hellraiser too much? I don't know. Maybe. But it doesn't mean it's necessary a bad thing to do so. Hell works in mysterious ways, too.
Amazing might be pushing it but certainly could happen. At the very least we'd have a potentially decent movie vs the amalgamation of hell raiser and the original script. I mean it's an interesting plot when not forced to be a movie it isn't, shame we didn't get to see the original idea.. It kind of seems like after the first 2 maybe 3 movies that for the most part the hellraiser ip just used the name on random things to try and pull profits
you should post some more horror movie reviews, this is my 4th or 5th time re watching most of your horror movie reviews, i love them and i like your thoughts and opinions on these movies and i notice alot of them mirror the same thoughts or opinions I have about these movies as well!! you do a good job keeping the veiwer entertained, never go to far off subject and make a good a few good jokes in between, keep up the good work and cant wait to see more from ya!!
the reason it goes back and forth through the same things ia because its supposed to be based on the Divine Comedy. You are right on two points: very ham fisted, and just doeant work as a Hellraiser story. One thing, though, and i may be misunderstanding what you meant, yes Pinhead is involved with biblical Hell. He was the Hell Priest in the book, and is refered to as Hell's favorite, along with the Cenobites from the first two movies. after those(def 3, maybe all subsequent movies) Pinhead created his minions and the were just known as Hell's Servants, if i am remebering right. The comic books explain alot more than the movies
Thorn isn’t the protagonist, there is no protagonist in this film. This is the first time we see what it’s like to be in hell. Things are supposed to be strange, it’s intended to illustrate why Thorn belongs in hell and how he’s being tortured to insanity.
after a relatively long narrative arc and a cenobite civil war. It is impossible to open the box if you are not chosen by leviathan, or at least it's how i understood it, and because kirsty opened the box she was chosen to either becaome part of the flayed/ or become a cenobite. it depends on the kind and intensity of your hunger for pleasure, knowledge etc. there are also multiple configuration of the box as well as different ''boxes'' for examples certain notes on a violin or a crossword puzzle etc.
So this is the first Hellraiser to officially name the box on screen, BUT it's actually not the first film to name the box. In deleted footage from Hellraiser 4 (before the studio chopped the film to pieces), Angelique actually names the box the Lament Configuration during a discussion with Pinhead. She also named Merchant's light version the Elysium Configuration. Seriously, the original version of Bloodlines was so much better... anyway, just an interesting Hellraiser fact.
While this is a bad Hellraiser movie, it is a nice bit of exposition if you take it for the creation of cenobite as the blue goo pumps in. That was how it seemed tome to fit in canon.
The tattoo guy has a tattoo with a nail through a hand - reference to the movie of the pointless Pinhead 'saviour' sequence in a church in a previous entry in this series. Pinhead sticking his 'pins' through his hands with worms on them,
Im sure ill get to it eventually but unfortunately I can only officially take review requests through my Patreon page www.patreon.com/DeusdaeconReviews
One way this film could have been improved is if they changed it to how thorn never opens the box and instead hell is simple bleeding through to our world because of how often the box has been opened which in turns seeks out and destroys evil people or those with twisted ideals. Have it as a side story in the hellraiser universe and not a main title and it could be better
I may very well be off on this statement or question. The first two movies, the cenobites were only interested in the " pleasures " of the Flesh, and not in " ones private hell." H.R.2 shows Frank's private cell show how the cenobite tease and deny they victim's lust. Cenobites in the first two movies thrive on lust, fear, pain/ pleasure, desire for the next new rush. The end of Inferno the lead character is left Shell Shocked and not wanting more lust. Hellraiser 3 in question may have started out good and showing the back story to Pin Head, " cough,cough,cough," Pin Head is a look you in the eye lover of tease and follow through effect. Not a random mass murder, but a serial killer. The Box really only opens up for chosen victims. The first movie started out as an adultery, murder, and incest/ rape story with demons thrown in. The second movie was a lot different. So how do you film a movie of a guy who finds the Box in a pawn/ junk shop, walks around his neighbor hood trying to open the box just to pass the time. Has lunch with his friends where all of them give a try to open the Box. Later the guy is in a liquor store seeing a slut get spank and pimp handed, then a couple of thugs robs the place and him. The slut runs out with three thugs and they easily open the Box. { End film }
When I first saw this I had no knowledge of film industry or movie making. But as soon as I saw it I thought that this was another movie they just slappt the hellraiser brand on and put some cenobites in. The movie could have been sort of better as a stand alone film. The hellraiser thing just made the expectations to high.
I actually enjoyed that the scumbag main character got his comeuppance.. You just wait for the other shoe to drop. It isn't a good movie, but I was entertained and I watched it for free
Best Hellraiser for me. Of Course it's not a Hellraiser per se, but nevertheless I love it. Well... except for the Cowboys. A Antihero story who faces his own hell as consequence of his actions. That's torture after all, so I'm fine with Hellraiser badge on it. However.... am I the only one who thinks on Max Payne while watching the movie? I mean... the real first game, not the shitty movie.
This is the same actor that played the main character in that uproariously and laughably bad Steven Seagal movie Code of Honor that was released straight to DVD a few years ago. His acting talent truly knows no bounds. No, no, I'm not being sarcastic at all.
The ending doesn't even make much sense as we don't see any suggestion the loop is going to change, and he can reset it by killing himself, so in effect, he can go out and party doing tons of drugs until he would come across creepy stuff, then kill himself and just use it as a way to repeat the same awesome party days over and over as it takes so long for anything meaningful to happen to him, and even that is because he chases the engineer which obviously he won't do now he knows it's not real. I mean I know that's 1 small nitpick in a film of complete crap... but ye
Right, So its either chatterer just with his legs cut off, making it a lazy rendition of an old cenobite, OR its supposed to be a completely new cenobite that just so happens to look like chatterer with his legs cut off, making it both incredibly lazy AND devoid of anything creative or original because as i mentioned before its just chatter with his legs cut off, so according to you I was being too kind on the film, and letting them get away with claiming to have "created" a new cenobite when really they did fuck all.
It's just chatterer without legs, so either its as i said chatterer without legs or just an incredibly lazy attempt to create a new cenobite without anything original or creative, I guess I was being too nice by assuming it was chatterer.
I was trying to stoke your anger at the movie. I looked at the Wiki and it said "Torso" instead of Chatterer. =P At this point I think the fanmade youtube movies are better than the official ones. =P
ill ne honest as a standalone movie this is not bad and if it is the first hellraiser film you see(like for me)its not that bad but then you watch the other ones and see yea its not the worst of the bunch but its baaad and not a hellraiser movie
yea but still entertaining and not this mess it would have been ok popcorn material like Friday the 13th (I think it was)7 wich knew it was popcorn entertainment and didn't shie away from doing those kinds of lines
Love all your vids, and this movie is garbage, BUT! I don’t think it’s fair to bash the movie on the fact the main character is a douchebag. The character is the character. “The Florida Project” has a similar main character (the mother). Though, I can see where perhaps a “jerky” character may not help move the movie or themes along.
well considering that a large amount of what I say is opinion based critique a lot of it can't be wrong just different, also forgetting the fact that non-clive barker associated Hellraiser films have nothing to do with the scarlet gospels in the first place, all of the reviews were written before the scarlet gospels was released so I don't see how I could've foreseen what it said, what can I say they were accurate at the time of writing.
Also the title of the first book is called the hellbound heart... Sadly the scarlet gospels was a shitty book designed to please those who never read the first one or any other clive barker book he is so off his own personal touch in that book that it "tore my soul apart" :( WTF CLIVE!?!?! I thought he had integrity but he seems to be in it for the money with that book. There are only two hellraiser films worthy to pay money to watch and that is 1 and 2. But the rest is pure garbage, But you cant really define what clive is referring to when he wrote about the cenobitic order of the gash You get a vague idea of some sort of interdimensional sadomasochistic enteties and also again the first book was called the hellbound heart and when he describes what frank actually goes thrue in the book it pretty much sounds like hell to me. Pinhead isnt even depicted correctly in the first movie he is supposed to have one jewel encrusted nail in his head at speaks with the voice of an excited girl. Sorry if this makes no sense english is my secon language amnd im pissed drunk atm.
Maybe he fell for pressure to release the book failing to even review his own work. I can imagine he got more than one GIVE US THE SCARLET GOSPELS e-mails, So he just wrote some abrahamitic religious bullshit... So fuck clive he took something wonderful and turned it in to dogshit... Brand him and cast him out.
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Holy crap. Your intro gives me so much nostalgia. I've been a viewer for almost 5 maybe 6 years and honestly, I would spend hours and hours watching your reviews. I still come back to them because they are so incredibly entertaining.
well I’m glad you still find them entertaining, thanks so much
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The "you were in the DoomBox Realm ALL ALONGGGG!" twist would work in a more subtle movie. It'd be kind of like Dark City (or, like, the Madoka movie) if weird background things started happening and went uncommented upon, gradually ramping up in intensity until a big reveal maybe 2/3rds of the way through, that'd be pretty neat. Honestly, imaging a movie that had more sympathetic investigators gradually realize the box had already been opened, in a movie that maybe wasn't even billed as Hellraiser until the end credits or something. That's a twist that wouldn't really work in the age of the internet, but I think it'd be neato.
I have to argue a bit about what you said about the cenobites not originally being sexual beings , yes some of them ( including the one pinhead is based on) are sexless but the one that originally takes Frank is very clearly female and it is described very graphically. Also the cenobites through time have blurred the lines between pain and pleasure so much that the confuse one for the other, they think they are giving the summoner exactly what they truly desire.
The reason why Hellraiser elements feel so out of place and forced into this at the last minute is because that is precisely what happened. This movie was not originally meant to be a Hellraiser entry, most (if not all) of the script was already written as a stand alone effort when for some reason it was decided to tack Pinhead and the rest to the plot. Thus the disaster we see before us.
Was about to comment the same thing. This movie was never meant to be hellraiser and it shows 😑
And, sadly, it's not the only one.
Nope 5-8 are 9 and 1o are to keep the movie rights only the first 4 were intended
I know I am reading WAY too much into it as a viewer but
Imagine if instead of an original movie given the Hellraiser makeover, this was meant to be an actual Hellraiser movie showing what actually happens to the people who open the box, the thing that happens after they get sucked into the box by the chains and such
We got a good look at the Cenobites dimension in 2 and this could've been an expansion on it
Wow. I have no memory of watching this movie, but I do remember being scarred as a kid by that first scene with the wire twins digging under his chest skin. Thanks for that 😬
Same. My mother even told me to shut my eyes but I peeked lol 😂
To be honest I loved that movie when I was younger but only because I didn't knew about the Hellraiser franchise. I thought the story was about a detective who's going insane because of all the cocaine he's doing and because the case he's on is too much to deal for him. Something like Jacob's ladder only not as good :P
Tbh I was the same. Its still a guilty pleasure for me.
This movie is crazy and random af. Like a lynch movie. I liked it for some reason
I can't believe you are not a big as other reviewers , u are really good dude , maybe if you do a colab with them u could get big a litte
@Chris Fulford bru he only has 1
@Chris Fulford nah I'm just high as hell I checked when I was at the near end of the review that's my bad imma dumbass
@@jameshopkins972 lmao
I just discovered your channel and have loved catching up on with your “Movie Review” playlist. Great videos! Very entertaining. Keep up the great work!
Oh man, he plays chess, AND wins? stand the buck fack, we have the most intelligent man alive right here.
Confirmed.
I've got nothing against smart guys, as long as they're not arrogant jackasses like Thorn.
This "Hellraiser" film feels more like it belongs in the Saw franchise with it's games about morality
I think Deusdaecon is right and I’m positive that this was originally supposed to be a “dirty detective falls prey to demonic forces” film and the Hellraiser elements were added at the last minute.
Every film after 4 was supposed to be a different film. The hellraiser stuff was added later.
The only thing missing from this film are two short scenes at the beginning and end. The Hellpriest (Pinhead) clocking in and out like the sheepdog/Wile E. Coyote in Looney Toons.
I Iove rewatching all his reviews. I haven’t found another be quite like him. Actually thinking about it. He’s the only reviewer I subscribed to.
This has become a weird staple of horror nowadays: jerks we're supposed to care about after horrible things happen to them. That's not horror if the characters aren't allowed to have a single redeeming quality. Then they're just as cartoonish as pure-as-the-driven-snow characters.
The guys a dick yeah but I think he’s actually really watchable. The most he does is cheat on his wife and do coke. In what world does that equate to it being ok to being mentally tortured for forever and having to watch everyone he cares about get brutally murdered? I actually liked the character and if you didn’t ok you won’t like the movie but he’s not a terrible pos either. The movie he’s constantly trying to figure out who’s taking the fingers of children and that’s why he’s not giving attention to his wife and daughter. It’s also shown in the therapy session how much he thinks innocence is portrayed in children and how much kids mean to him. So my point is he’s not just some unlikable asshole, I feel like plenty of people have cheated on their wives and it’s like what these people are unlikable assholes who don’t deserve to be critically analyzed like any character? He’s a flawed character, it’s part of what makes the movie interesting. Silent hill 2 is a great example of having a protagonist that you learn later on is kind of a pos but you still like him and are emotionally attached to him anyway. Or for more of a film example how about clockwork orange? Alex is a complete pos in that movie yet you care about him the entire way through anyway.
Oh and as far as redeeming qualities he did have one, he was trying to fucking save a child who were getting their fingers cut off! How is that not a redeeming factor? And it’s what drives the whole plot too!
The director of this would go on to direct Sinister.
Him and C. Robert cargill are really cool dudes
rz21 which was a good movie except the ending was horrible and so disappointing
The first half of that film was great. The rest... ehhhhh
Well everybody got to start somewhere.
Doctor Strange actually was a great movie.
It feels like a really twilight zone episode or some other Horror Anthology.
The "David Boreanaz look-a-like" is Craig Sheffer, THE GUY WHO PLAYED BOONE IN NIGHTBREED.
Yeah, he also played a lead role alongside Brad Pitt in A River Runs Through It
I kind of want a movie about the martial artist cowboys.
Watch "Shanghai Noon".
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@Limau Purut i was hoping someone would have said Billy Jack
Lone Wolf McQuade?
The Detective was Cabal/Aaron Boone in Clive Barker's Nightbreed......
Your narration makes me laugh. Usually hate watching movie reviews but you make it fun.
I love this movie
Throughout the course of this video i slowly began to remember that I have actually watched this movie before. I must've completely erased it from my mind.
Heh. This is actually one of my favorite movies, but I enjoyed your video nonetheless. I'm not invested in the movie being consistent with other Hellraiser films, so I can enjoy it for what it is.
The Engineer is the name of the main antagonist in The Hellbound Heart, the book that HELLRAISER is based on ...
I always find it satisfying whenever that box opens
Is it bad that I like the premise of this movie? If they just reboot it without the Hellraiser references then that movie would be amazing.
The script for this movie was actually written with no Hellraiser connection, at all, and then they changed it into a Pinhead related entry. I'm not sure if the entire script was already written when they decided to switch gears but I do know this movie was not originally meant to be a Hellraiser movie and it really shows.
I liked it, too. Well, kinda. It goes beyond then just physical torture by Pinhead and the cenobites and shows us the psychological terror as well. Even if poorly executed, we get to see what can happen when you temper with the box and how you can end up in your own personal hell. It is named the inferno after all.
Does it stray away from original Hellraiser too much? I don't know. Maybe. But it doesn't mean it's necessary a bad thing to do so. Hell works in mysterious ways, too.
you should play silent hill 2
Amazing might be pushing it but certainly could happen. At the very least we'd have a potentially decent movie vs the amalgamation of hell raiser and the original script. I mean it's an interesting plot when not forced to be a movie it isn't, shame we didn't get to see the original idea..
It kind of seems like after the first 2 maybe 3 movies that for the most part the hellraiser ip just used the name on random things to try and pull profits
you should post some more horror movie reviews, this is my 4th or 5th time re watching most of your horror movie reviews, i love them and i like your thoughts and opinions on these movies and i notice alot of them mirror the same thoughts or opinions I have about these movies as well!! you do a good job keeping the veiwer entertained, never go to far off subject and make a good a few good jokes in between, keep up the good work and cant wait to see more from ya!!
Is that the guy from Nightbreed?
Hey, theres a movie you could review?
I'm not sure, but I like your face🙂
Yes, Craig Sheffer. He was also in The River Runs Through It alongside Brad Pitt
Weird Silent Hill fan movie with Hellraiser in the title XD
Aren't all Cenobytes modified human beings? Even PinHead was a German officer at one point, right?
British officer, but yes.
honestly i like this movie mainly cuz I don't treat it as a hellraiser movie I ignore the hellraiser stuff entirely
Nick Turturo was wasted in this or needed a paycheck
Movie thinks it's Jacob's Ladder.
Movie is wrong
This movie could've been good if the twist was the child was chatter before been transformed into a cinibite being a prequel.
the reason it goes back and forth through the same things ia because its supposed to be based on the Divine Comedy. You are right on two points: very ham fisted, and just doeant work as a Hellraiser story. One thing, though, and i may be misunderstanding what you meant, yes Pinhead is involved with biblical Hell. He was the Hell Priest in the book, and is refered to as Hell's favorite, along with the Cenobites from the first two movies. after those(def 3, maybe all subsequent movies) Pinhead created his minions and the were just known as Hell's Servants, if i am remebering right. The comic books explain alot more than the movies
Yes that abomination was called the engineer. It was a concept later abandoned for leviathan.
Thorn isn’t the protagonist, there is no protagonist in this film. This is the first time we see what it’s like to be in hell. Things are supposed to be strange, it’s intended to illustrate why Thorn belongs in hell and how he’s being tortured to insanity.
I fell like this movie culd have been an amazing creepy supernatural noir
How do you feel about Kirsty becoming essentially Pinhead in the comics?
JoJoFan93 fuk dat bitch her name is spelled wrong
When did that happen?
after a relatively long narrative arc and a cenobite civil war.
It is impossible to open the box if you are not chosen by leviathan, or at least it's how i understood it, and because kirsty opened the box she was chosen to either becaome part of the flayed/ or become a cenobite. it depends on the kind and intensity of your hunger for pleasure, knowledge etc. there are also multiple configuration of the box as well as different ''boxes'' for examples certain notes on a violin or a crossword puzzle etc.
Well, if you can't beat them, may as well join up.
This one feels more like a Silent Hill plot instead of a Hellsing one.
I remember the detecive from Marlin the return and night breed
It’s a detective horror movie with Hellraiser Chameos
I laughed at 20:41 though it was supposed to be scary.
Pedro Couto i nearly died too haahah
the detective from nightbreed
Pinhead hates woolen sweaters.
Hey now, Sweet Tooth is a lovely guy!
I wanna bet that hellraiser 6 was meant to be a jacobs ladder remake like movie adapted into a hellraiser
Ivan Trajkovski Both the sixth and fifth movies feel like that.
So this is the first Hellraiser to officially name the box on screen, BUT it's actually not the first film to name the box. In deleted footage from Hellraiser 4 (before the studio chopped the film to pieces), Angelique actually names the box the Lament Configuration during a discussion with Pinhead. She also named Merchant's light version the Elysium Configuration. Seriously, the original version of Bloodlines was so much better... anyway, just an interesting Hellraiser fact.
I think this was a Silent Hill movie.
While this is a bad Hellraiser movie, it is a nice bit of exposition if you take it for the creation of cenobite as the blue goo pumps in. That was how it seemed tome to fit in canon.
The tattoo guy has a tattoo with a nail through a hand - reference to the movie of the pointless Pinhead 'saviour' sequence in a church in a previous entry in this series. Pinhead sticking his 'pins' through his hands with worms on them,
Can you do a review of the original Day of the Dead? Love the reviews btw!!👍👍
Im sure ill get to it eventually but unfortunately I can only officially take review requests through my Patreon page www.patreon.com/DeusdaeconReviews
This has some weird Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of Flesh feel to it.
One way this film could have been improved is if they changed it to how thorn never opens the box and instead hell is simple bleeding through to our world because of how often the box has been opened which in turns seeks out and destroys evil people or those with twisted ideals. Have it as a side story in the hellraiser universe and not a main title and it could be better
Can't Pinhead delight in different types of pain? I mean waiting for the next time the box opens has to be....irritating.
I may very well be off on this statement or question.
The first two movies, the cenobites were only interested in the " pleasures " of the Flesh, and not in " ones private hell." H.R.2 shows Frank's private cell show how the cenobite tease and deny they victim's lust.
Cenobites in the first two movies thrive on lust, fear, pain/ pleasure, desire for the next new rush.
The end of Inferno the lead character is left Shell Shocked and not wanting more lust.
Hellraiser 3 in question may have started out good and showing the back story to Pin Head,
" cough,cough,cough," Pin Head is a look you in the eye lover of tease and follow through effect. Not a random mass murder, but a serial killer. The Box really only opens up for chosen victims.
The first movie started out as an adultery, murder, and incest/ rape story with demons thrown in. The second movie was a lot different.
So how do you film a movie of a guy who finds the Box in a pawn/ junk shop, walks around his neighbor hood trying to open the box just to pass the time. Has lunch with his friends where all of them give a try to open the Box. Later the guy is in a liquor store seeing a slut get spank and pimp handed, then a couple of thugs robs the place and him. The slut runs out with three thugs and they easily open the Box. { End film }
You know what?! I really enjoyed this one. It was a fun movie and one I watch more than any of the other movies.
Coming soon , Hellraiser 53: Helsinki
Finn here, I had a good laugh at this. I would pay to watch that film.
Fun fact... The lead in this movie was the lead in NightBreed.
Last I knew the wire twins started out as something of a spin off that was sadly just a toy line with some story to it.
inception-raiser
When I first saw this I had no knowledge of film industry or movie making. But as soon as I saw it I thought that this was another movie they just slappt the hellraiser brand on and put some cenobites in. The movie could have been sort of better as a stand alone film. The hellraiser thing just made the expectations to high.
Whoa! Isn't that the guy that played Boone in Nightbreed?
yes, craig sheffer
I'd honestly love to see the movie this was originally pitched as I bet it woulda been awesome without the shoehorned hellraiser shit
I actually enjoyed that the scumbag main character got his comeuppance.. You just wait for the other shoe to drop. It isn't a good movie, but I was entertained and I watched it for free
I would have gone with "You don't get it, baby. I like it rough"
The director claimed this was always supposed to be a hellraiser sequel but I don’t buy it
Thank you for watching these so that I didn't have to.
This film is when Dimension started getting horror scripts and deciding to just adjust them a tad to make "Hellraiser" films.😕
Too bad there aren't any Frenchies in this movie. His riff on the French in the last one was hilarious.
This a my favorite hellraiser
malik robinson thats the absolute most hipster thing ive ever heard hahaha
Hopefully no one bleeds on the motel bathroom where Joseph opened the box and supposedly died, cause then he can come back like Frank. 😳
Best Hellraiser for me. Of Course it's not a Hellraiser per se, but nevertheless I love it. Well... except for the Cowboys. A Antihero story who faces his own hell as consequence of his actions. That's torture after all, so I'm fine with Hellraiser badge on it.
However.... am I the only one who thinks on Max Payne while watching the movie? I mean... the real first game, not the shitty movie.
How the hell do you define anti-hero so that THIS asshole counts? He's a villain protagonist
i dig your reviews, even when i don't, no, esp. when i don't agree with you.
the chatterer is my personal favorite cenobite
Dizzy Gee cenobites*
Mine too
This is the same actor that played the main character in that uproariously and laughably bad Steven Seagal movie Code of Honor that was released straight to DVD a few years ago. His acting talent truly knows no bounds. No, no, I'm not being sarcastic at all.
He did alright in "In pursuit of honor".
The ending doesn't even make much sense as we don't see any suggestion the loop is going to change, and he can reset it by killing himself, so in effect, he can go out and party doing tons of drugs until he would come across creepy stuff, then kill himself and just use it as a way to repeat the same awesome party days over and over as it takes so long for anything meaningful to happen to him, and even that is because he chases the engineer which obviously he won't do now he knows it's not real.
I mean I know that's 1 small nitpick in a film of complete crap... but ye
This could have been a really cool psychological horror movie. Too bad the studio interfered.
Well the Hell Priest has to sermonize eh🤔
Boone from Nightbreed has fallen so hard
dude that's not chatter that's his creation called the Torso and looks like him but it is not him
Right, So its either chatterer just with his legs cut off, making it a lazy rendition of an old cenobite, OR its supposed to be a completely new cenobite that just so happens to look like chatterer with his legs cut off, making it both incredibly lazy AND devoid of anything creative or original because as i mentioned before its just chatter with his legs cut off, so according to you I was being too kind on the film, and letting them get away with claiming to have "created" a new cenobite when really they did fuck all.
It's like they saw the shitty dream sequences from the first one and then decided to make that the entire film.
Admit it, you would have preferred "Martial Arts Cowboys."
Absolutely just not in a Hellraiser film, I think many would agree.
Well yeah, but I meant would prefer Martial Arts Cowboys are watching H5: Inferno.
Really cool concept, horribly executed
also also, this movie was not meant to be a hellraiser. wasn't even written as one at first :D
yeah, I talk all about that later on in the series of reviews.
@@deusdeaconReviews Oooh. :D i see now love your reviews. would'ah done better as a stand alone flick
Discount David Boreanaz.
Weirdly, I think this would've worked better as a Saw movie over Hellraiser.
Well saw movies don't work as saw movies anymore so why the hell not !
@@deusdeaconReviews awww come on Jigsaw was.... uhh... saw 4 had.... hmmm.... shit. When was the last good saw movie?
Did one ever exist?
The first one had its charms
"mom? STAAaAAaaaAAhp!"
I disagree, he looks far more like the dad from zoolander than David Boreanaz
That's not Chatterer, that's Torso.
It's just chatterer without legs, so either its as i said chatterer without legs or just an incredibly lazy attempt to create a new cenobite without anything original or creative, I guess I was being too nice by assuming it was chatterer.
I was trying to stoke your anger at the movie. I looked at the Wiki and it said "Torso" instead of Chatterer. =P At this point I think the fanmade youtube movies are better than the official ones. =P
I can stand the pun.
All of the hellraiser movies after 3 were scrapt movie projects that got turned into a hellraiser movie
4 was a Hellraiser script, and so was 9 and 10, not that it did them any favours
@@deusdeaconReviews I honestly forgot about 9 and 10.
I’m sorry to remind you
That's so lame. They turned the Labyrinth into less of a physical place and more of a nebulous dream world that's completely subjective in nature.
i would have liked this movie more as a silent hill movie.
ill ne honest as a standalone movie this is not bad and if it is the first hellraiser film you see(like for me)its not that bad but then you watch the other ones and see yea its not the worst of the bunch but its baaad and not a hellraiser movie
Ivan Trajkovski Even if you judge this movie on it's own merits, this, along with the sixth one, still come off as Jacob's Ladder ripoffs.
yea but still entertaining and not this mess it would have been ok popcorn material like Friday the 13th (I think it was)7 wich knew it was popcorn entertainment and didn't shie away from doing those kinds of lines
Ivan Trajkovski It was the third one that went over the top and goofy.
Shows him what happens When you scream into your soup 😂😂
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Yeah, but he's at least good at chess.
Love all your vids, and this movie is garbage, BUT! I don’t think it’s fair to bash the movie on the fact the main character is a douchebag. The character is the character. “The Florida Project” has a similar main character (the mother). Though, I can see where perhaps a “jerky” character may not help move the movie or themes along.
Read the scarlet gospels... It proves everything that you is say wrong.
well considering that a large amount of what I say is opinion based critique a lot of it can't be wrong just different, also forgetting the fact that non-clive barker associated Hellraiser films have nothing to do with the scarlet gospels in the first place, all of the reviews were written before the scarlet gospels was released so I don't see how I could've foreseen what it said, what can I say they were accurate at the time of writing.
Also the title of the first book is called the hellbound heart... Sadly the scarlet gospels was a shitty book designed to please those who never read the first one or any other clive barker book he is so off his own personal touch in that book that it "tore my soul apart" :( WTF CLIVE!?!?! I thought he had integrity but he seems to be in it for the money with that book. There are only two hellraiser films worthy to pay money to watch and that is 1 and 2. But the rest is pure garbage, But you cant really define what clive is referring to when he wrote about the cenobitic order of the gash You get a vague idea of some sort of interdimensional sadomasochistic enteties and also again the first book was called the hellbound heart and when he describes what frank actually goes thrue in the book it pretty much sounds like hell to me. Pinhead isnt even depicted correctly in the first movie he is supposed to have one jewel encrusted nail in his head at speaks with the voice of an excited girl. Sorry if this makes no sense english is my secon language amnd im pissed drunk atm.
Maybe he fell for pressure to release the book failing to even review his own work. I can imagine he got more than one GIVE US THE SCARLET GOSPELS e-mails, So he just wrote some abrahamitic religious bullshit... So fuck clive he took something wonderful and turned it in to dogshit... Brand him and cast him out.